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Suisei is now the face of Hololive. What do you think about this? Personally, I think she's a lot more fitting front for an idol company than a comedian rabbit or sex pirate.

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oops wrong picture

>> No.22132851

>>22132735
>didn’t reference sora

Poor sora….

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>> No.22133084

>>22132735
Thanks Suisei for drawing the house.

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>>22132928
>Miko PoV

>> No.22133226

>>22132735
>I think she's a lot more fitting front for an idol company than a comedian rabbit or sex pirate.
The fact that you think either of those two have been the face of Hololive is evidence enough of this terrible take.

>> No.22133308

>>22133154
>miko wakes up

>> No.22133406

I agree, she is a great centerpiece to have for the Normies and sponsors. I think the only one Cover doesnt want to be their most poplular one is Marine, Aqua and Pekora arent vulgar enough to scare away big sponsors.

>> No.22133513

>>22133226
>the biggest streamer and the person that sold over $1 million worth of merch on her last batch

Anon......

>> No.22133586

Sora. because she's a better singer.

>> No.22134458

>>22132735
She's one of my top 5, so I'm 100% ok.

>> No.22135937

>>22132735
Hey she's my top 1, and probably even top 0 if I knew Japanese

>> No.22136222

>>22132735
Why it's aways blue women ?

>> No.22138057

>>22132928
>Stacysei is so confident not even her flat chests can make her insecure
Jesus christ that's hot.

>> No.22138081

>>22132735
I don't see a pirate in the picture anon

>> No.22138470

>>22132735
>thinking your opinion matters to suisei

>> No.22138701

who gives a fuck whos the centerpiece? Watch who you enjoy thats lit ltierally, nothing else on the business side matters to you, god damn youd think yall were the idols in these threads

>> No.22138753

>face of Hololive
It is still Marine. Aqua and Fubuki relinquished the honor and are forever moping or whatever and Suisei doesn't have the sheer versatility to really represent the entirety of the Hololive brand. After Marine's vocal chords turn into dust there's no one left to really be the face of Hololive.

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>>22132735
The face

>> No.22139850

>>22138839
Maybe in summer 2020. She's fallen off and is irrelevant now.

>> No.22139885

>>22138701
>yall
go back

>> No.22140883

>>22132735
Suisei has it all. She even has the protagonist backstory. I want to peek behind the veil and see what really goes on in her brain.

>> No.22141410

>>22140883
>what really goes on in her brain
I'm afraid

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>yall
> go back

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>>22140883
>Suisei has it all
except boobs

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>>22141421

>> No.22141913

Suisei is a real renaissance woman.
I think she makes a fine face for the company.

>> No.22142120

She has talent but no leadership traits and too self absorbed, She's the green ranger not the red ranger

>> No.22148879

Imagine your top talent being a pickup from another company.

>> No.22149038

>>22138753
Cope

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>>22138081
How bout now?

>> No.22149274

>>22149190
red pirate better

>> No.22149488

>>22133513
Numbers never have and never will determine the face of a company, retard. Sora is the face of hololive despite not being popular at all compared to her kouhais

>> No.22149695

>>22132735
Stop using my oshi for your shitposts

>> No.22151380

As someone who doesn't know shit about idol culture and doesn't really care, Suisei doesn't strike me as one compared to Sora or Nene. If idols are about supporting and cheering, Nene was the first that made me feel that way
To me Suisei is more what they call "artist" which would be more Diva than Idol. She is a full fledged star, her performance leaves you breathless and completely charmed

>> No.22155269

>>22132735
This but unironically.

>> No.22155441

Sora is more iconic.
Pekora is more popular.

>> No.22155498

She is the face of sex

>> No.22155532

>>22155269
You're really persistent in bumping your shitty bait thread huh anon?

>> No.22155829

Come back to me with Suishit has Marine-quality doujins. Wait, nevermind. It's never ever going to happen.

>> No.22155861

>>22132735
Sex idoru

>> No.22155982

>>22148879
And why would that matter at all? Taking lesser known people and making them big is something companies do because it’s cheaper. Getting someone talented from another company is easy but rare. So of course you should do the latter if you have the chance.

>> No.22156069

>>22151380
You mean diva as in, like, how the Japanese use it? It’s occurred to me that I don’t fuck with idol culture irl and I only fuck with it for vtubers if there’s at least a bit of irony about it (which is all of the Hololive girls’ streams, like, ever).
So for me, this is only another plus.

>> No.22156083

>>22148879
>being a pickup from another company.
???

>> No.22156172

>>22149488
>Numbers never have and never will determine the face of a company
They always have you fucking retard
>Sora is the face of hololive despite not being popular at all compared to her kouhais
Outliers exist

>> No.22156273

Now sure if they want to be known for producing a bunch of mediocre songs with a few good ones here and there.

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>>22156172
Aqua is the face of Hololive then.

>> No.22156471

>>22132735
>What do you think about this?
SEEEEXXXXXXX!!!!!

>> No.22156490

>>22156394
>1 event
Nice strawman

>> No.22156553

>>22156394
Well yes. Sora, Fubuki and Aqua have always been the faces of Hololive and that isn't going to change anytime soon.

>> No.22156617

>>22156069
Diva in like
Kino performer
Egocentrically alluring
The fact that she barely panders to her fans is really not idol like at all

>> No.22156622

>>22156490
She also has the most album sold with her EP.

>> No.22156676

>>22156394
Mel and Noel pretty low considering their side jobs

>> No.22156732

>>22156622
How many events does hololive have? How many months have they been active. What are the top sellers for each event? To what extent and why are the sellers?
You have to actually use ALL the numbers retard, did you not take a stats class?

>> No.22156871

>>22156732
Sadly I do not have an insider working in Hololive.
If you want to go that route this whole thread is useless (which is true)

The only tangible fact is that like >>22156553 said, those 3 holos are used like 90% of the times when it comes to send someone as a representative.

>> No.22156941

>>22132735
It's kino. She's the most fitting and deserving for the role.

>> No.22157052

>>22156871
It's not insider knowledge to see who has the most ccvs/subs/digital album sales/physical album sales/solo live ccvs

>> No.22157111

>>22157052
Oh really? Come on then, show me Sora's Re:Play ccv.

>> No.22157215

>>22157111
>Gives 9999 examples
>Questions 1 of them
What about the other 9998? Are you just going to ignore them or what?

>> No.22157257

>>22157052
Night, what the hell are you smoking?
/#/ have been trying for ages to find those numbers and the only thing they achieved was to get the merch numbers for a brief period of time.

>> No.22157350

>>22157111
>>22157257
Are you playing dumb or what? You use the metrics publicly available, not the ones hidden.
Just because you don't have hidden ones doesn't mean you can't speculate available ones.
If numbers today say Mori is the face of holo then she is, if numbers tomorrow says Reine is, then she is. You update based on known information.
Bayesian inference you highschool dropouts

>> No.22157452

>>22157350
And there's literally nothing available to the public except sub numbers, are you really going to decide who "the face of Hololive" is based on that one single metric?

>> No.22157558

>>22132765
she doesn't want to be the face of hololive, if anything she wants to leave that avatar behind

>> No.22157619

nijisanji already have a lucinda (fire emblem) like character as front

>> No.22157806

>>22157452
>there's literally nothing available to the public except sub numbers
Why are you lying?

>> No.22157884

>>22157806
Come on then, big boy, show me the numbers you yourself listed.

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>>22157884

>> No.22158192

>>22158093
I accept your concession.

>> No.22158250

>>22132735
The face of Hololive is Sora
The one working behind the scenes the most is Fubuki
The most cordial JP Holo is Marine
The most popular JP streamer is Pekora

>> No.22158251

Suisei is the ace, not the captain.

>> No.22158444

>>22158192
I tip my hat to you good sir
upvoted

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>>22133117

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>>22132735
eh. even if she's my oshi, i don't think suisei is the face of hololive, nor is anyone really. depending on when and who you ask, people will just give you different answers when asked who the "face" of hololive is.

if you asked early on, people would say sora. ask in late 2019, people would say fubuki. mid 2020, korone. early 2021, gura and so on and so forth. fuck, you can even say coco was the "face of hololive" last june. it's just whoever is most popular amongst all platforms at the time.

>> No.22158596

>>22156172
>Outliers exist
I accept your concession

>> No.22158676

>>22158552
Are you stupid? Stop replying to a shitposter

>> No.22158748

>>22139850
vtubers in general are in a "bear market"
but Korone is pretty consistent, she had like a little depressive arc but besides that she's always in a good mood, playing fun retro games, she has a solid fanbase
just wait until things get back on track again

>> No.22158959

>>22158552
It’s sora, she’s promoted everywhere as the face, literal dumbasses or newfags in this thread holy shit

>> No.22159027

>>22158676
Nobody is falling for it SEAnigger, kill yourself.

>> No.22159316

There's no "face" of hololive.
That's one of its strenghts. It has way too many heavy hitters to really single out one girl.

>> No.22159324

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwLQSsjsfSk&ab_channel=W.D.%E5%B0%8F%E7%8B%82CRAZY

>> No.22159623

>>22159316
Kill yourself unity fag

>> No.22159662

>>22159316
Gura is the face of hololive, kinda

>> No.22159741

>>22132851
because she is boring as fuck

>> No.22159958

>>22132735
She's the symbol of sex

>> No.22160034

>>22158959
They do use her as market material yes.
But is about her people think when thinking about hololive? I doubt it, not dissing Sora but soratomos are the old guard now, overshadowed by the newer gens. You can accept it or keep seething

>> No.22160242

>>22132735
Neither she cares about Hololive enough to want to be it, nor she is the most popular or doing the most PR or doing the most sponsors to be it. Wake up from your delusions.

>> No.22160384

Suisei seems like an enormous bitch. I don't know why people like her so much. She's also ugly IRL.

>> No.22160512

>>22160384
She seems ok, just really near the danger line.
>But that's the good part

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>>22160384
That’s the whole appeal, now

Kneel.

>> No.22160750

Whats the dirt on suisei , the antis only shit on her singing, there's got to be something else to call her out on?

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Sora is the face of Holo. Even though Sora isn't as popular as the others. And is easy to forget.
Cover is practically including Sora in all merch line ups.

>> No.22160952

Suisei will probably takeover Sora's role as hololive's idol role model once daisenpai retires.. Basically, the one that current and future members will look at as their goal when aiming for the idol route. Ironically enough, I get the feeling the Shuba will take over FBK's slot once friend retires too, which is the one who sets the overall tone in the company/ establishes company culture. I would've said Marine but she really doesn't take care of herself enough health wise and saddling her with that kind of responsibility would be a bit too much.

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>>22138839
I miss the times when she was relevant. Things never feel the same again....

>> No.22161803

Falseflagging thread?
Falseflagging thread.

>> No.22162420

>>22132735
>the giga stacey is the face of hololive
the weak fear the strong

>> No.22162626

>>22160750
Just newfags mad that she shits on other chuubas with her talent

>> No.22163705

>>22132735
>>22158552
Suisei is the face of Suisei

>> No.22163785

>>22158676
thread police faggot
please do everyone a favor and plug a fork into an outlet and kill yourself before you have a stroke from seething at literally anything
although I doubt an ESL third worlder like you even has electricity

>> No.22163822

>>22160750
the only dirt on suisei is that she has to share planet with niggers like you

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>>22160384
>

>> No.22164266

>>22163822
Oh no no no, how will hoshifags ever recover??

>> No.22164380

>>22163822
Kek

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Honestly, it's still Sora as far as their corporate stance is concerned. The company needs at least one idol and Sora is it.

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Yo, deadbeats! Once I convince Gura to retire, I'LL be the face of Hololive. I'll keep this one around and MAYBE a few others. Except the worlds largest soon-to-be-indy Peko. GYAHAHAHAHAHA!

>> No.22165287

>>22160034
the company got to decide who is their face and it's obvious they make Sora as their face their center, what people think doesn't matter that's the fact

>> No.22165791

Reminder that Suisei was just middle of pack at the start of last year until she inclined like crazy after GHOST.
How did she do it?

>> No.22166389

>>22165791
>Reminder that Suisei was just middle of pack at the start of last year until she inclined like crazy after GHOST.
How did she do it?

Unironically the suipiss meme

>> No.22166797

>>22160750
She's good at everything, and if she isn't, she just leans into it stupidly hard until she is good at it.
Ordinarily this would make her unlikable, a tryhard. But she's just so cute and genuine, you can't hate her for trying her best and succeeding without fail.
She's flawless, a Mary Sue, too perfect to be real.
Also she killed the dinosaurs.

>> No.22166871

>>22160750
she got rejected from all irl idol agencies she applied to.
go google japanese "idols" and you'll realize how low the bar is and how fucking ugly suisei must be to not even clear that bar.
there's literally zero other reasons why she would fail.

>> No.22166939

>>22166871
Kek

>> No.22167098

>>22166871
and noticed how doxxbeat mori went out of her way to call suisei "stunningly beautiful" when we know some of the other holos she met are drop dead gorgeous and she didn't say shit about them.
so mori was obviously making shit up. like suisei's face is so undeniably repulsive she can't stop herself from commenting on it, but then caught herself and had to lie and say she's beautiful instead.

>> No.22167232

>>22165791
>Reminder that Suisei was just middle of pack at the start of last year until she inclined like crazy after GHOST.
>How did she do it?
By not being an idol.
She wanted to be an idol, of course, but being an idol is about the journey. About giving your best even though you aren't the best. About appealing and catering to your audience. About needing and being given support.
Suisei loves idols, she's basically a gachikoi for OTHER idols, but she isn't one herself, and for the longest time, she just didn't understand this herself. Thus her abysmal growth early on when she (and Miko) were the left behind kids in the bunch.
As much as she loved idols, she never WAS one, and thus didn't appeal to the crowd.
People watched Hololive expecting cute girls being silly at games and venturing into singing and dancing as an aside.
Suisei wasn't that.
And eventually Suisei understood this, too. And changed. The Suicopath meme, her ever more leaning into a star/diva persona, as opposed to an idol persona. Her rejection of gachikoi doesn't work for an idol persona, but for a diva, forever unreachable? Perfect fit. Her ALREADY excelling doesn't match the journey of an idol, but it matches the star on the stage.
Once she didn't do this by accident, but intentionally leaned into it, she started to develop her audience, people who actually wanted this. Cue her numbers exploding.
And that's where she is now.

>> No.22167237

>>22167098
actually even towa commented on it before, when telling the story of how her and suisei had to stare at each other's faces a lot for one part of the dance for ghost at holofes.

she was very very annoyed by suisei's face and wanted to punch it.

>> No.22167355

how do we still not know how suisei looks like when she lived in the same building as the most doxxed holo? japanese schizos are worthless

>> No.22167550

Since when? I've only subbed to two. The face, Sora, and Pekora.

>> No.22167713

>>22167355
She was living under the angel's anti-dox AT field

>> No.22168214

>>22167355
And the holos reported that she dresses extremely fancy when she goes out. Maybe she owns a car and never interacts with anyone beside staff?
>It's possible considering she is a sociopath

>> No.22168409

>>22167232
Perfectly stated
But I don't think she quite realizes it just yet to the full extent
I hope she does, she has everything to br the best

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>>22138839
this
/thread
>>22161550
>>22139850
She's still relevant, faggots.

>> No.22168628

Come back to me when Suishit has Marine-quality doujins. Wait, nevermind. It's never ever going to happen.

>> No.22168689

>>22168628
>>22155829
you'd think that after 6 hours someone wouldn't really bother with correcting a typo but here we are

>> No.22168833

>>22132765
>implying she ever started

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>>22165287
hm

>> No.22168895
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hmmm

>> No.22168929
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hmmmm?

>> No.22168967
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>Sora is used in every promotion material
kek

>> No.22169641

>>22165791
She released actually good music with high production values

>> No.22169677

>>22149190
That's unreasonably cute. Delete it.

>> No.22169727

>>22168568
Cope

>> No.22169766

>>22169641
man i forget that they actually have to pay out of pocket for those. and given her expensive tastes, she must be living paycheck to paycheck right now?

>> No.22169797

>>22156394
>Aki
>Below even Azki
What went wrong?

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>22169727
>throwing buzzwords because you don't have a better argument
why are ENiggers like this

>> No.22170792

>>22168856
what's your point anon ? it doesn't change the fact that they push the image of Sora as the face

>> No.22170826

>>22168689
This is also myself samefagging. Look at me.

>> No.22170876

Come back to me when Suishit has any Marine-quality doujins. Wait, nevermind. It's never ever going to happen.

>> No.22171249

>>22170792
Sora only gets to appear on cover's own material after Gamers debut, she is never the focus of anything, if she is present is just there together with someone more trendy
At this point I would argue that we don't agree on the definition the face of hololive.
When every other member is getting chosen to represent hololive in sponsorships and events, how is she the face of it?
Yes she is hololive, she founded it, is admired by everyone inside and will be the center until graduation. But most people that is joining nowadays probably don't even knows who she is

>> No.22172700

>>22171249
>Sora only gets to appear on cover's own material after Gamers debut
wrong Sora appears in mikuland alone, she is the only vtuber on tokyo international music market etc
you can disagree with the definition of it but like i said what people think doesn't matter when the company is clearly push Sora as the face

>> No.22175388

>>22132735
>Suisei is now the face of Hololive.
its fine

>> No.22176535

>>22165791
Unironically leeching off Miko. If you're a blue woman, form a pairing with Miko, it'll catapult you to stardom.

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