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What does /vt/ think about Polka playing Night in the Woods, given its political affiliations?

>> No.2242975

>>2242958
Am I supposed to know what this random fucking Newgrounds game is about?

>> No.2243046

Have you ever seen a chuuba talking about the themes and story of a game?

They don't give a shit about any ideology, for them it's just animals making funny noises for a few hours.

>> No.2243145

Dont care because she's a woman

>> No.2243173

>>2243046
Polka actually did reflect on the game's themes quite a bit and got invested in it. OP is still a faggot though for obsessing over politics.

>> No.2243194

>>2243046
Well, a few got pretty into undertale like Watame.
Polka, having studied to be a librarian and enjoying reading classical literature, is someone I could see caring about writing or philosophy in a game.

>> No.2243237

>>2242958
Didn't Ame play a communist game her manager told her to play a few weeks after she debuted? I don't think Cover cares that much. I don't care much either.

>> No.2243314

>>2242958
Idc and NitW Polka is cute.

>> No.2243354
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>>2243194
>undertale
>political

>> No.2243447 [DELETED] 

I think being exposed to media with varied messages is healthy.

But more importantly, even if I thought there were “wrong” games to play, I think people shouldn’t be expected to research who created every game.

>> No.2243479 [DELETED] 

>>2243354
Undertale is literally about systemic racism and monsters being people just like humans are and getting out of the ghetto they’re in and ending up being friends with outsider humans; I don’t see how it isn’t political

>> No.2243705 [DELETED] 

>>2243479
I want to accuse you of being one of those everything is political fags, but you're also not wrong in a certain sense. It's still not a political game even if it uses a theme that can be seen as political although since everything is political that doesn't really matter

>> No.2243767 [DELETED] 

>>2243705
Were you trying to make a point here?

>> No.2243790 [DELETED] 

>>2243705
>It's still not a political game even if it uses a theme that can be seen as political
あーガイジガイジ

>> No.2244060

>>2242958
coco played that trump bodyguard game during election season. just dont think too hard about it.

>> No.2244071
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Is anything in Night in the Woods actually political from the perspective of Japan? Different countries have different issues.

Besides, Polka is cute so it's fine!

>> No.2244124 [DELETED] 

>>2243767
the point is that when everything becomes political, nothing is political.

>> No.2244413 [DELETED] 
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>>2243479
What a faggy game. I thought you were talking about political philosophy. "pls dont bully niggers" isn't fucking political theory.

>> No.2247347

>>2242958
It's a good game and I don't watch Polka so don't care

>> No.2247366

>>2242958
Bro every single holo played Papers Please which is twice as political, just admit you lick boots

>> No.2247386

>>2243790
Hehe funny japanese smiley face

>> No.2247428

>>2242958
>dumb menhera wasting time on sjw tumblrshit
Don't care porka is graduation material regardless

>> No.2247433 [DELETED] 

>>2244413
What joyless bastard would make a game about political theory?

>> No.2247449 [DELETED] 

>>2242958
Is there a theme beyond a false accusation from a famous attention whore being the cause of the developer's suicide?

>> No.2247553 [DELETED] 

>>2247366
Papers Please isn't really political. Having a dystopian setting isn't political. It's just a shitty place and you're free to interpret or not interpret it in whatever way they want.

NitW has gay furries, openly attacks capitalism and praises socialism, and blames basically everything on old people. There's nothing like this in Papers Please.

>> No.2247578

>>2242958
I'm more interesting in knowing what Polka thinks about the creator killing himself for doing what what essentially THEY did to Aloe.

>> No.2247635

>>2247578
When you say THEY you don't mean Gen 5 do you anon? I hope not, hard to tell with all these rrats around.

>> No.2247666 [DELETED] 

>>2247553
>missing the point this hard
Based literal drooling retard

>> No.2247731 [DELETED] 

>>2247666
What point? All you said was that Papers Please is more political than a game with over political messages. Stop bullshitting, tranny.

>> No.2247822 [DELETED] 

>>2243479
Sounds like it's from the perspective of a rich white liberal that's never stepped foot in a ghetto. Just make good games and leave politics/social issues out of it.

>> No.2247832 [DELETED] 

>>2247666
Hey based drooling retard guy, you write this in every thread you appear. Is it your job to play defense for the game industry and its media or something? Or do gay libshits like you instinctively do it for free like all corporate bootlickers are prone to behave?

>> No.2247874 [DELETED] 

>>2247433
I watched Legend of Galactic Heroes and it discusses the problems of democracy and autocracy, and other topics. A game is an interactive story, so this definitely can be done. "muh colored", while has roots in current events, are too shallow craft entire thought-provoking themes.

>>2243194
When the fuck is she reading Franz Kafka on streams? She already read Metamorphosis offline.

>> No.2247934 [DELETED] 

>>2247832
Go back

>> No.2248017 [DELETED] 

>>2247553
>You can interpret media whatever way you want.
Yeah that's literally everything, political or not. The author died with god, now we have free reign.

>> No.2248049

>>2242958
What? Who cares?

>> No.2248052 [DELETED] 

>>2243479
Undertale was never meant to have a political undertone, especially in terms of 'systemic' racism (in what way systemic? I recall only monster vs human theme, nothing about racism inside the Underground system) but I guess if you try hard enough you can find political undertones in any form of entertainment.

>> No.2248124 [DELETED] 

>>2248017
I will spell it out for you retard. There is a difference between crafting a story and a world from which people can draw their own conclusions, and from directly shouting CAPITALISM BAD SOCIALISM GOOD. Back to the topic of vtubers, the content in NitW is too explicitly controversial. Even just the gay furry couple that openly acts gay in public and talks about being victimized by homophobes is way more overtly political than anything in Papers Please.

>> No.2248154 [DELETED] 

>>2248052
Anon, the culture is so pozzed to the bone that it seems completely natural for you to empathize with monsters trying to kill you at every step. In fact, you're the monster for fighting back and the only true ending is pacifism. Previously this would have required a massive amount of justification in the lore for anyone to go along with the idea.

>> No.2248175 [DELETED] 

>>2248052
he only said systemic since that's what his masters tell him to say

>> No.2248228 [DELETED] 

What is even political about night in the woods? Is just a game about rediscovering your place in the world after having failed at basically everything you've set to do. Or are you one of those retards that just see 1(one) gay couple and go full sperg?

>> No.2248263

>>2247578
Wait what? What happened to him?

>> No.2248267

>>2242958
Ok /v/ retard!

>> No.2248449

>>2242958
is this game political that much?

every holo jp member is totally fucking apolitical. polka is not even socially aware. shes an oldschool outsider type woman.
the sad news for you is that they dont give a single fuck about the west and whats going on there.

>> No.2248513

We all know this thread is just an excuse for political shit flinging. Fuck off where you belong.

>> No.2248528 [DELETED] 

>>2242958
Didn't the dev of this game off himself after one of his feminist friends accused him of raping her or some shit?

>> No.2248556 [DELETED] 

>>2248154
Isn't it explicitly stated during the game that most monsters outside the main cast have no fucking idea you are a human and are just communicating with you through magic bullets like they would with literally every other monster out there?

>> No.2248559

>>2243237
She did, and it was so bad it ruined her switch.

>> No.2248608 [DELETED] 

>>2243479
Ahckshooallee, the political statement of Undertale is that women and transmen are unable to function in positions of authority, idiot.

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>>2248608
kek

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>>2247433

>> No.2248824 [DELETED] 

>>2248154
You have magic save point bullshit preventing you from dieing and can stop a big chunk from attacking you with a wink and a nudge, since their violence is born of misunderstanding.

>> No.2248973

>>2242958
I really doubt that, being only barely able to understand basic English, Polka would have any idea that the devs are gigantic faggots and that one of them killed himself because of a feminist grifter cunt.
Game itself is mostly inoffensive in its presentation of mental illness or whatever. Ending is pretty bad.

>> No.2249176 [DELETED] 

>>2243479
The Humans attacked the monsters out of fear of their souls merging IIRC. Their souls merging has enough potency to fucking rewrite the entirety of history and the fabric of their existence as seen with Flowey/Asriel.
>>2248154
The fucking game is a critique/deconstruction on the idiocy of RPG systems where you walk down a completely normal street and some bumfuck random monster mauls you in an otherwise perfectly peaceful town/city.

>> No.2249207 [DELETED] 

>>2249176
what the fuck RPGs are you playing that have random encounters in towns?

>> No.2249245 [DELETED] 

>>2247433
Literally every single wannabe gamedev tranny.
Essentially anything from since like 2015 from america and whoever they pozzed with sjw shit is pushing the sjw libtard rrats

>> No.2249629 [DELETED] 

>>2242958
is it possible to portray human struggles, without it being political?

>> No.2249742

>>2242958
This already smells like /pol/ without having any knowledge of the game. You people need to understand that "politics" does not mean "thing I don't like".

>> No.2249888 [DELETED] 

>>2249629
Let me pose your question a different way. If the struggle portrayed is largely not found in reality but made to fit a certain narrative that the devs want to push, isn't calling that out as incendiary propaganda the natural thing to do?

>> No.2249971

>>2242958
World politics in video games is perfectly fine.
Even some forms of racial politics is perfectly fine (see Universal Century and the racisim between Spacenoids and Earthnoids)
Obfuscated racism is okay.
Identity politics is absolutely cringe.
Obnoxious identity politics like pictured is unfathomably cringe.
That said, I don't blame Polka for playing the game, but I don't think she can blame me for not watching her stream it.

>> No.2250022 [DELETED] 

>>2249971
Actually, I'm remembering things wrong. This game is the not obnoxious, that is reserved for Life is Strange. This one is just obnoxious.

>> No.2250048

>>2249971
Actually, I'm remembering things wrong. This game is the not obnoxious, that is reserved for Life is Strange. This one is just cringe.

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2250092

I still remember the moment I subbed to Pekora
"Solidus wa tadashikata"

>> No.2250141

>>2242958
politics? the fuck you talking about its a game

>> No.2250336
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2250336

Imagine having so much Yamato SOUL that you bawl your eyes out for a rice farming simulator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UauKssJ44c

>> No.2250368

>>2250336
Based.

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>>2250336
Polka is a good girl.

>> No.2250454

>>2242958
Isn't this game about neetdom? I don't remember any politics in it.

>> No.2250474

>>2243237
Ironic because she said she voted for Gary Johnson in 2016. Not that voting for that fag actually means anything besides dudeweed

>> No.2250481

>>2244060
That's a well known bakage though

>> No.2250482

>>2242958
>caring about political games
Nobody seemed to give a shit when pekora played MGS, why would they give a shit now?

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>>2250336
Seeing Polka get so moved by a story is honestly very charming. I watched her read though all of Necrobarista and you could tell towards the end she was getting pretty emotional as everyone was joking and tip-toeing around all the morbid thoughts.

>> No.2251046

>>2242958
What are its political affiliations?

>> No.2251087

>>2251046
"thing I don't like" apparently, haven't seen anything concrete in this thread before it devolved into undertale posting

>> No.2251159

>>2248263
Alec Holowka got Me Too'd by Zoe Quinn and an heroed. She suffered no consequences from making a completely false accusation.

>> No.2251235

>>2248263
One of the co-creators committed suicide after allegations of abuse went public, guy was a mental wreck, on meds, therapy, and was apparently abused himself when he was younger.

>> No.2251246

>>2251159
It didn't help that it was sort of well known the dude had issues with trans people, and that supposedly those issues manifested into the game pretty heavily. He kinda just seemed like an asshole based on what I've heard about the guy.

>> No.2251463

>>2251159
How is that reflected in the actual game?

>> No.2251517

>>2251246
Everyone has issues with trans people because as soon as you don't automatically agree with everything they say you're a transphobe
That said I don't know anything about the guy so I can't comment on his attitude.

>> No.2251553

>>2247578
fucking dumb mutt. those are utterly absolutely different cases

>> No.2251593

>>2242958
Who cares, Polka is JP so the politics part does not transfer over. All politics are local. It's more likely that Polka's roommate is right wing as hell due to who she follows and the podcasts that she shows up on.

>> No.2251619

>>2251593
Isn't Polka like super lesbian? That's one of the biggest known roommate things about her. She's a gay neet who never leaves her room. I have a hard time believing she'd be some crazy right wing person considering that.

>> No.2251734

>>2251087
It's the usual gay teen politics. The problem being antis in that base have an unusual amount of weight, so we don't want them getting a foothold.

>> No.2251743

>>2251159
>>2251246
Been a while since I delved into this. Alec Holowka was a pretty prominent "scene" indie dev, mostly known for Night in the Woods and Aquaria (good game, underrated). Chronically depressed and known to have anger issues.
Zoe Quinn is a pretty infamous name if you keep up with video games. She became noteworthy despite having no accomplishments because she buddied up with a number of game journalists with high visibility which earned her a bit of coverage on a shitty text adventure game she was working on. An ex-boyfriend of her's claims that she was cheating on him with said game journalists and some people believe this to mean she traded sex for positive coverage. Based on what I've seen, this is most likely true. Woman is completely unhinged and a pathological liar that has claimed to have been raped on several different occasions, at least one of which she claims to have fended off by stabbing and killing her attacker. She also decided to change her gender pronouns to they/them.
Alec and Zoe lived together very briefly, like a week or so if I recall correctly. Several years later, during the height of the #MeToo movement, Zoe comes out on twitter accusing Alec of not allowing her to leave the house, being very abusive, and attempting to ruin her "career". Difficult to decide if this is true or not because it's less extreme than her usual rape allegations and because of Alec's propensity for angry outbursts. The flood of messages he got on social media and presumably offline as well resulted in him killing himself.
The indie scene makes a big song and dance about how sad this is even though they were literally just attacking him for being an abuser, and then Zoe whines that she is the victim in all of this on Twitter before taking a break for like 1 week or something. Now she's one of the maggots feeding off whatever scraps she can find in the western comic book industry.

tl;dr none of this has anything to do with the game, sage

>> No.2251778

>>2243354
Work on your reading comprehension anon.

>> No.2251781

>>2251619
she had a part time job, so not a genuine neet at least

>>2251593
total schizo rrat. your brain is damaged so hard

>> No.2251790

>>2251743
The biggest tragedy in all of this is that a legitimately okay idea in wanting better ethics in games journalism, was highjacked by skeptic lunatic assholes who turned gamergate into a hellshow. Thanks again Sargon you walking embarrassment.

>> No.2251827

>>2251593
Credit to Polka. I disagree with the views espoused in the game but her stream has been free of political rants. Hopefully no EN girls get any ideas to stream this.

>> No.2251989

>>2251619
No, People are confusing being a idol chasing fan girl as being a lesbian. Go watch her commando watch along where she gushes over Arnolds muscles. JP idols are not allowed to have any relationships with men, its part of their contracts.

>> No.2252079

>>2251989
Isn't she bi? Her thirst for girls like Makima from Chainsaw Man is pretty well documented. I think Polka just doesn't discriminate.

>> No.2252149

>>2251989
Polka is hardcore bi. People obsess with this idea that there can't be a single bi or lesbian girl in hololive. It's all an idol act or some shit, but Polka has been hella gay for girls since well before joining Hololive. This shit is super well documented.

>> No.2252203

>>2252149
>People obsess with this idea that there can't be a single bi or lesbian girl in hololive
I see more obsessed /u/schizos claiming the opposite

>> No.2252219

>>2251989
I think there's a legitimate correlation between Cover searching out awkward, hikki shut ins and social rejects, and there being some bi/gay girls at Hololive. Japan is hella anti-LGBT. It makes sense that someone who is gay or bi would be more inclined to be an awkward social outcast.

>> No.2252233

Gamergate ruined a generation of vulnerable young men

>> No.2252235

>>2252219
meds, tranny. this isnt resetera

>> No.2252258

>>2251087
That's because that's the answer. Nobody gives a shit when a holo plays kojima games, despite those being some of the most political games ever made. They'd probably also cream themselves if a holo ever played Bioshock

>> No.2252272

>>2252219
I mean, even without those correlations odds are with enough members some of them will be gay or bi.

>> No.2252278

>>2252203
/u/ faggots go the opposite direction where they claim all the Holos are lesbian. Shits insane to me. We factually know the sexuality of a good number of the girls. The fact there's an okay number of them that are confirmed bi or lesbian should be enough to satisfy their obsession. Instead they just ignore the confirmed girls and claim all of them are fucking each other. /u/schizos are functionally insane man.

>> No.2252301

>>2252233
end your worthless life retarded gamejourno
also see what >>2252235 said

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