WISH WE COULD TURN BACK TIME

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TO THE GOOD OLD DAAAAAAAYS

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Plenty of opportunities to make good times in the present! Nice thread!

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>>22636270
I remember thinking to myself "Wow if they are this good now, imagine in like 2 years time!"
And then it was nothing but stagnation, tummy hort and disappointment.

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>>22636270
You will watch homos and you will like it

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There never were good old days for NijiEN

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>>22636270
>>22636462
I wish it was still just these 11

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>>22636270
The good old days when Niji EN was the laughing stock for barely breaking past 5-6k for a FULL collab. Fuck that

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Lazylight and Obsydia were great because they were groups of three. Smaller waves create stronger bonds between members and more time for each member to create a strong character/identity. Increasing wave size decreases individuality and replaces it with a bland group identity. Everyone starts to act and think the same, creating increasingly boring streams despite having more livers per collab than before. This also leads to a few of the less social members being left out. Hopefully as NijiEn grows larger we'll see some compartmentalization and a return to close-knit small groups, but for now we have to deal with normalfag cliques.

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>>22641697
>The good old days when Niji EN was the laughing stock for barely breaking past 5-6k for a FULL collab.
Back in those days, holobronies didn't even know we existed, so we felt more like one of those small startup chuuba groups where everyone got along and there was no drama. Pure bliss every stream. Now, with the males getting 7k streams on average and 40k+ for shit like karaoke, bronies have gotten way more spiteful with their numberfagging of the girls, even though it's not their fault that Council got mogged.

I just wanna go back to when everyone just did their own thing and pretending like their competitors just didn't exist.

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>>22636270
>obsydia
We have to go back further

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>>22641962
Those days are dead, even the smaller corpos aren't safe considering all the recent drama with them.

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>>22641962
Good thing you posted Petra there were legit more hate threads on Petra and Rosemi than anyone else here. Holofags are less likely to mention NijiEN when they get mogged.
Girls are happier now that they ever were when their entire audience was consisted of bored holofags who would leave streams en masse when Holos streamed

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>>22641928
Thanks for your take on vtuber group dynamics Hitler.

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>>22636270
good times

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>>22641962
>pretend they didn't exist
NijiEn has been shitposted since day one.

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>>22636462
>I remember thinking to myself
faggot you probably never even watched their debuts.

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>>22642478
Before they even debuted even.

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>>22641962
> caring what numberfags think

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>>22642950
Well they shat on my plate so

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>>22641962
Bullshit you guys were trying to banish the Pomudachi from the threads from day 1 then moved on to the Rosebuds... take me back those days were fun...

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>>22641928
Hitler would be a good manager

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>>22636348
Thank you based Migoposter.

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>>22648195
why did you revive this thread?

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>>22636348
yeah but there's m*les now sadly migoposter-kun

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>>22636270
Start the Lazusydia thread already then faggot. People seem to want it but nobody will pull the trigger.

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>>22641501
>I wish it was still just these 11
You are right Holobro... i miss those times so much...

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>>22636270
>>22636462
>>22642406
I wouldn't have minded these 11 collab/offcollabing back then, but now...
what happened?

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It really needs a split. I'm sick of Mysta fans, Vox fujo's, yugo weirdness, and Mika.

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>>22641962
Lol pitting Holo females to nijimales is retarded nijimales have monopoly on new female fanbase while HoloEn females need to compete against established female vtubers , this number fagging should be female vs female and niji is still doing bad they get numbers on collab with men but on solo regular streams they are still on less than 1k to 2k selen and elira are the only ones that can break 3k i watch streams bdw right now selen is on 1.6k live viewers

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>>22641697
Only to /#/. For something that is about half a year old that came into a highly contested market, it did well. Not only that they were able to continually push up the max amount of viewers per collab. Now sometimes we can see that in a solo stream from one of the girls.

It hasn't even been a year yet.

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>>22636270
It's astonishing that Pomudachi and Dragoons still remain the worst fanbases in nijiEN despite 3 more waves coming out since then.

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>>22643978
That isn't even how it happened. Famelira were the original shitpost target because of people like Dragonschizo avatarfagging before they moved on to Ryuguard because of Finana getting doxxed. Pomudachi didn't start getting shit on in the thread until tourists started using Pomu to shit up random threads on /vt/ and /jp/.

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>>22641962
>Back in those days, holobronies didn't even know we existed
Anon back then Holobronies saw NijiEN nearly on par with Myth.
t. hlgg poster from /jp/

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>>22636348
>using miko to defend males
You're a fraud, migoposter.

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>>22636270
Funny that you're using a screenshot from a collab, the thing that supposedly is what ruined modern nijien

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>>22656439
this, indies and small corpos would literally get like 50-100 viewers while NijiEN could at least hit 1-2k range, they were WAY more successful than the others from the get-go, people just expected them to become insta-Hololive tier and that was unrealistic considering they missed the big hype point for EN by a solid half year.

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>>22660688
>the thing that supposedly is what ruined modern nijien
>still missing the point this hard

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>>22660688
No, there is something else missing from there. Something that messed up the dynamics of these girls and thoroughly messed up the fanbases/discussion about the branch period.

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>>22660804
Ethyria?
Because it can't be the males right? Since every time I point this out they immediately go on about how they're not unicorns and it's totally not because of the males

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>>22660883
>Ethyria?
That was me, Ethyria was a mistake, I don't know why but Ethyria made me lost interest in nijiEN, Elira's nepotism hire was a mistake

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>>22636348
never stop being a beacon of positivity, /vt/ needs you

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>>22661495
Elira's nepotism hires are the better two members of that gen. What are you on about?

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>>22660482
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Lol okay

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>>22636270

not me, otherwise we wouldnt have kino streams like the garry's mod one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVJZo3CrY_s

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>>22641979
Impossible, Obsydia was inevitable since they were recruited together. They even make a cameo in the Lazulight debut song kek

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>>22636462
wear your mask properly, Nijinigger. Anyone who watchs them knows they used to be a cringefest except Gura and Kiara. You think Mori is cringe now? then, i'm sure you cant handle the old Mori

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>>22641928
Based Hitler poster

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>>22636270
Holobrony and gachikoi cope. NijiEN is better than ever. Basically any time of the day I can open up a stream and it's people having fun and acting natural and it's a total blast.

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>>22636270
I'd sacrifice all of Myth to go back and save Coco and Aloe. Maybe even Civia

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>>22667589

the girls numbers also have not decreased at all, the original fans are still there, the people who "dropped nijiEN girls" are just pretending they where fans or just an extremely small vocal minority too..

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>>22667589
>Basically any time of the day I can open up a stream and it's people having fun and acting natural and it's a total blast.
Ah, a collab extremist I see. Anyone who takes a more moderate approach and doesn't want constant random collabs to happen in an unplanned manner all the time is the extremist to you I'm sure.

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>>22668218
Yeah, tired of collabs... i wish they limit that shit to 2 per week

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I want to go back before all these MEN showed up.
I can't believe 2232 would tire disgusting MEN to show up their beautiful female stars.
I'm going back to holo were the men have no talent and leave the work to the gura copies.

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>>22636462
Anyone watching Myth from the beginning know they always have been awkward like that since their debut. Complaining about them being cringe is like complaining about Ayame not streaming enough lmao.

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>>22660739
>people just expected them to become insta-Hololive tier
Those were just newfags who weren´t around when Holos had to suck the Small Chink Dick to survive and think things have always been like this, and /vt/ is full of newfags who even today barely watch Hololive but pretend to be fans for some reason.

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>>22669165
>Small Chink Dick to survive
Too true. I lost so much faith in holo as time went on.
its nice seeing Niji organically boom.

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Myth until just before Council was the peak of EN vtubing. It's only downhill from here.

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>>22662681
Jesus stop being a faggot

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>>22636348
Fpbp

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>>22636270
The first few months of Lazulight and Obsydia were absolutely kino. Now it's random british faggots inserting themselves into every collab. At least the girls are still good in their solo streams.

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>>22673993
the male british voice being considered attractive to women is the single worst thing to ever happen in history

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>>22656707
Na. They just get the focus because people use them to shitpost.
If you see nijien thread you'll see how bad the males' fanbases are. And then when you read incredibly disconnected shitposts in other threads talking about how people are incels or parasocial is bad, you realize it's not shitposts, it's just that nijimales have brought in the normalfag redditors.

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>>22660688
>a 1 time collab getting together all the girls on different branches to play a game where they get to show off their fun personalities and banter
Vs
>20 person collab with 10 males where they all scream over each other in amogus, every other day
There's a huge difference.

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>>22660883
It can be about the males without you being a unicorn. The men just suck and have no sense of boundaries. And the girls let them walk over them. If you like the girls the boys will constantly fuck over your enjoyment of them. Plus because of either mandated or tonedeafness the girls keep bringing the males onto collabs they have no reason to be in which drives away the people who just wanted to watch the girls they like.

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>>22679154
>The men just suck and have no sense of boundaries. And the girls let them walk over them.
Examples?

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>>22679611
Well no recent examples on account of no longer watching nijien because I was tired of it.
Something like Millies totsu. She brings in finana and reimu, they joke about sex toys for like 30 minutes. It's kinda cringe but whatever it's 2 huge degenerates so it's a given.
Then fulgar and Vox shows up and the entire thing becomes about them. Fulgar is the focus and keeps "leaving" just to join back in 10 seconds later to talk over everyone. Vox shows up and has a 30 minute spergout on fnaf. And voxfags might be going
>haha he's autistic so funny XD
But this isn't his channel. It's a call in stream for millie, even if you're talking about yourself it's millies channel and you're completely ignoring her.

Yes surprise I watched a millie stream to watch millie. Yes it was a totsumachi but that doesn't mean it's about everyone else but millie. People are supposed to call in to focus on millie

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>>22679154
Tonedeafness about what? Your hurt feelings? They join streams just as much as the girls, they're literally half of the branch so it's to be expected, you'll see them interacting just as much
The first part is just bullshit tho, guys like shu and alban are often mocked because of how little presence they have in some collabs, Vox and Mysta are more loud but mysta doesn't even remember his branch exists and vox isn't joining every single stream, in fact most of the complaints seem to be only about how vox is in those collabs but you're still acting as if it applies for every single male, it's like saying you hate the girls because of immature sex jokes when pretty much only finana and Millie are like that

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>>22660759
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>>22679105
No, anon knew exactly what they were saying, they were calling out your faggots hypocrisy because somehow everything magically changes when MALES are involved. I hate you faggots so much, this is nijinigger land, you unicorn faggots were never welcome. This is the home of anime stream enjoyers, not schizophrenic faggots trying to convince themselves the fatty behind the cute girl avatar is their girlfriend.

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>>22679765
You people are such huge fucking hypocrites. It's literally just because they're males. You faggots would be all over this if they were all girls. Hell you admit it right there with millie and reimu talking about sex toys. But males live rent free in your head that them even joining in is making it about "them". Fuck off from nijisanji you niggers, you were never welcome.

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>>22679977
People hated Nina for doing it too.
And yes we hate males for doing it because we inherently do not want to watch the men stream. That's the difference, there is an audience for female streamers and an audience for male streamers and many of them want to watch one or the other, not both. I do not care if Vox exists. I care when he invades a stream I'm watch or that I'm excited for and the expects me to want to watch him. I do not. I want to watch female streamers.
And because I want to watch female streamers if any male forces themselves into it I hate it because I do not want to watch male streamers. If a female streamer interrupts then it's dependent on the female, if it's Nina then I also hate it.

This isn't rocket science. It's basic marketing.
>b-but they're half the company!
>b-but nijiJP has them too!
It doesn't mean every streamer has to always have men in their streams. JP has plenty of girls that only solo or stream with girls. They also have plenty of men that only solo or stream with other men. They have an audience.
LOE had an audience that liked female streamers and are now ignoring that entire audience in favor of one's that want men. Anyone that watched for female streams got fucked.

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>>22680116
>JP has plenty of girls that only solo or stream with girls
>Plenty
I can hardly think of three. Even "honorary Holo" Lulu was part of Kurumiwari.

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I don't mind collabs as long as they don't have Nina in them. Unfortunately, it feels like half of them do.

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>>22680116
>It doesn't mean every streamer has to always have men in their streams
And guess what, they don't, this weekend was filled with solo streams from the girls, but it doesn't matter because you fags will start whining if a collab with a male happens at all, no matter how many times they're not present