/vtwbg/ - VTuber Worldbuilding General

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Previous: >>23128094

What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as countries interacting with each other through means peaceful and militant alike!

Interactive map:
https://vtwbg.github.io/

CURRENT GOAL: N/A

>Note that the map isn't set in stone.
>Greentexts of your generals' lore in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Flags made for the region your oshi rules over are also appreciated.

THREAD REP TRIPCODE
>/∞/: !XcNdwMsONs, !np2UIvxwi. (backup)
>/pcclg/?: !!S9vZSg00/Br
>/meat/: !!J7IsvbPoQE1

CLIMATE & TECTONICS POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean Currents
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Weather Systems
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-climate
Tectonic Plates and their Movements
https://rentry.org/dmkyc
Geologic Provinces
https://rentry.org/ztaf99

FLAG POSTS
https://rentry.org/ah74h

LORE ARCHIVE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.]

Anchor post for any additions to the map/lore. Please reply here for archival purposes. Anchored posts in the last thread will be archived within a day.
If you will be using a rentry link, please use
>http://rentry.org/
instead of .co, as the latter is filtered as spam.
Thank you!
Please also report if there's outdated/missing lore in OP!

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Anchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

>Vote Results
https://rentry.org/44do6
https://rentry.org/np9ke
>Bylaws
https://rentry.org/kuygt
>Vote post archive
https://rentry.org/ofx2x

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CURRENT PROMPTS

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much do the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?
>Development
What are your nation's current goals now? What are you trying to aim for in your development? Would said development make your people happy?
>Funeral Rites
How do your people observe the death of one of their own? What kind of ceremonies are held? How are their belongings handled?

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>>23243578
The Comet visiting Mont Mori.

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>>23243961
Comet is alive!
It contains Iofi juices!

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Something for /meat/
Very WIP

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>>23247948
The cult expands...

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So far so good
Im going to bed

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I've been getting a little worried recently. /rose/ went into seclusion a while back because it was getting really overrun by schizos and such, but with the rise of /OBSY/ I'm a little scared that /rose/ is just permanently gone now. If that's the case, I don't know what's going to happen to all the lore I wrote. Will it all be scrapped? Do I have to augment it to fit to /OBSY/? Should I start writing for /OBSY/ instead of /rose/, since it seems to be the successor? I'm getting more and more nervous about it, I don't know what to do.

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>>23250254
if /rose/ got integrated into /OBSY/ then make it a part of it, you don't really need to scrap anything.

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>>23250254
Damn that sucks, I didn't know /rose/ had problem with schizos too t. deadbeat it's messed up to sperg out about this sweetheart.
One thing for sure, nothing is getting scrapped. What was written while /rose/ existed is part of the history of the world and should remain forever more.
Here is what I would suggest, the next time we update the borders of the map (which currently doesn't have /OBSY/), let /OBSY/ appear as a new territory which includes /rose/, and parts of /HAHA/ and /nijien/, and let /rose/ continue to exist as an entity which is a province of /OBSY/. Regarding lore organization, perhaps we can have subsections under countries which have absorbed other generals? Such that there would be a /OBSY/ heading, and a /rose/ subheading. I think this is a situation that will likely occur again and again, so it would be good to figure out how to deal with it, a province system would be a good way I think.
Lore-wise, you could say under the repeated assaults of schizo war bands, /rose/ has decided to draw itself closer to its neighbors, or something along those lines. That's up to you obviously, just an idea.

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>>23250254
/rose/ then joins up with or is the state forming /obsy/ for increased military and economic heft

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>>23249688
>>23247948
What is /meat/ doing?

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>>23252082
Nothin good I tell ya hwat
Fanart related to staplegate maybe? Would be cool.

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Repost from previous thread. OP didn't see probably

I also want to make this clear for OP who manages the general:

National Flag: https://files.catbox.moe/1rr4xf.png

Naval Jack
https://files.catbox.moe/aakx2q.png

Coat of arms: https://files.catbox.moe/f9fmtp.png

National Anthem - https://streamable.com/zc52rp

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>>23254184
Hey anon, if you want stuff to get in the archive you'll want to reply to the anchor post at the start of the thread, that's what archiveanon checks.

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>>23254236
alright
>>23254184
>>23243578

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>>23254184
Also, based.

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>>23254266
Ah, sorry, I meant >>23243624
Like this:
>>23243624
Anchor >>23254184

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>>23254341
Ah, i see thanks for helping

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>>23254419
No prob anon.

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>>23247948
The invasion of the redditors kek.
>>23250254
FEELS FUCKING BAD! I really like you. Your one of the most creative writers and overall just cool people on this thread. I really hope whatever happens it doesn't shun you away. My idea is that /obsy/ would be just like /rose/ in game but with dragons and whatever the fuck petra does (we have anya-petra so how would this work out?) I was even there at the last thread in case you didnt see. Much love to you rosebro.
>>23254184
Holy fuck. You guys are actually going to be a thing now? Well shit lets see how this works out.

To the meatboys. Since i dont think /uuu/ is gonna say anything anytime soon I suppose your going to be next on the visit list. I actually want to do inf as well but i simply thought there was no need since they have 2 cities and a road in our territory. Still something to keep note of since im sure risuners would be curious what goes on there. And I have many ideas of how things would play out so just wait a bit longer. Still doing the luknight visit and a bit of things at /rose/

To the map bro. Whats gonna happen to NijiKR/NijiID? Are they gonna perform a rushia and simply get taken over by other people after time has passed? Just curious. Also curious about placements of the 3 holoID girls since their threads appear to be somewhat active. Ill be waiting.

And now to continue with lore re writing.

i mean it rosebro. your a cool person

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>>23254635
Didn't you see this work of art from the last thread?

https://streamable.com/zc52rp
https://streamable.com/zc52rp
https://streamable.com/zc52rp

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>>23254711
>https://streamable.com/zc52rp
no i did not. gave me a nice kek

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>>23254711
wait wrong link https://streamable.com/h80axf

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>>23255462
>https://streamable.com/h80axf
enjoyable but also wtf did i just watch? Regardless thx bro. I honestly never watch any vshojo girls and only know them because of nagzz. ill be here for anyone btw but mostly doing lore re writing.

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Man, I just binged For All Mankind and now I'm really excited for us to get to the early space era and write about space exploration.

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>>23254711
neat

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>>23250254
Have faith Rosebud. Your lore, whether or not you lose /rose/, is history. As history you will always be remembered. Besides as long as Rose herself doesn't graduate there's hope for Rosebutas.

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>>23254635
>Whats gonna happen to NijiKR/NijiID?
In terms of the threads, nijiKR becomes /kr/ (although they have been talking about non-niji Korean vtubers for a while before then), while nijiID threads are still active, so they're still fine for now. Probably just need to change /kr/'s label on the map.
>/meat/
Sounds good to me! Feel free to ask us if you ever want more information! I should tidy up the /meat/ lore archive as well

>>23250254
I'm sorry to hear that, rosebud. As for how to handle the lore, if /rose/ as its own thread is indeed gone for good (feels it's still too soon to tell) and be replaced by /obys/, then we can assume /rose/ allies itself with followers of Selen and Petra and become /obys/. A sufficiently decentralised alliance of sort like that should allow /rose/'s lore to be kept as-is? As for the cause of this alliance, maybe we can go with what >>23250698 said.
Tell us if that works for you! I'm sure we can work out something that keeps /rose/'s lore as is.

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>>23256268
Join thuh fukkin' club, m8.

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>>23259364
if /rose/ just stopped existing then it's easier to just put them as /obsy/ in the map, it's not like the rosebud had written anything about government and shit, he should get acknowledgement from /obsy/ if he is to continue writing for it thought. Looks like /haha/ is still qctive, so it'd be a simple name change in the map.

I do know that pentomos in Anya-Petra like sticking to it since multiple attempts at them were made.

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>>23260422
>it's not like the rosebud had written anything about government and shit
Pretty sure they had, most prominently in Ring Around The Rosy. I would say unless others from /obys/ disagree with that, rosebud's fine to write lore concerning the /rose/ part of /obys/.

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>>23261208
Yeah, I think it's fair to interpret a lot of those wider generals as more federation-like things.

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>>23261208
it's /obsy/ btw, not /obys/

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>>23261576
I can't spell

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>>23256268
same

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I just want to pop in and say I will bake lots of comfort cookies for Rosebutas regardless of where they end up. You have my condolences.

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>>23254125
>>23254635
It's a 'rogues gallery' of the /meat/ pantheon

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Reorganised some /meat/ lore: https://rentry.org/vtwbg-meatlore

Also archived all anchored post from the last thread, and updated the map from /risu/.

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>page 1 to 10 in 30 minutes

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Where is everyone?

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>>23243578
/meat/ pantheon progress

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Which nation is the most likely to have drop bears?

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>>23250254
Speaking of dead generals. What happens to companies who die? Are the countries amalgamated or do they carry on in a sort of Dark Souls multiple time periods at once sort of deal

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>>23274861
i thought she was supposed to be from hell.
>>23274972
companies and vtubers are probably similar. if sex as a concept died, /horny/ and most fetish threads would become a dead zone.

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>>23274861
/pyon/, /rrat/ and /nasa/ are both safe from them in the climate department

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>>23274972
that depends on what happens to the talents after the company breaks, after all, this world is based on what happens on /vt/, if the talents keep a split then not much happens, but if the company tanks and takes its talents with it then worship stops and the splits would probably die

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>>23275220
Makes me wonder which lands could have ruins from HololiveCN.

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>>23275674
Aren't them antediluvian?

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>>23275220
the company is not the same as it's talents. even if the talents thrive on past the company they originated from, any thread about the company and not the talent would feel the brunt of the collapse of the company. with that said, the nations do not represent the company or the talents, it represents the threads. it's true when a chuuba dies, any thread related to them will be hit by it, but if the thread continues to exist to some extent, then the nation will continue to exist in the same manner. if a company dies, but the talents persist, and continue to associate with each other, or get threads dedicated to them as a group, even if no longer supported by the existence of a company, then the it will be as you said. nothing will happen. even if they aren't connected by a company, they can share threads, see /anya-petra/.

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>>23277600
yeah, i know, that's what i said even.

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>>23278004
i just wanted to clarify.

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Insomnia bump.

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While organising the /meat/ lore entry, one thing that comes back to me is the coral reeves. The climate's generally suitable for its development, but I can't help but feel it needs some flavour to not just be a big fuck-off sea wall against naval invasions.
One thing that I want to address is that it currently spans across a good chunk of the coastline, which might be a bit too excessive, especially when considering that most of /meat/'s northern and eastern coast would look like picrel, and that's before taking into account any /meat/ shenanigans.
I think the densest part (where they can actually cause significant damage to ships when rammed against) of the coral reef can be on the western side of the country instead, since the other sides are pretty well-protected as is. As for giving it more /meat/ flavour, maybe concentrated Comma-themed sacrifice there (e.g. conducted by and/or done to Comma priestesses?) can put enough additional nutrients (and chuubanite) into the ecosystem to cause them to grow more plant-like, maybe looking like some kind of colourful marine thorn bushes?

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>>23282348
There was a lore entry about /meat/'s defensive doctrine
It mentioned how the coral has chuubanite in its structure. Anyone unlucky enough to moor their ship gets snacked on by the coral

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Where the kronies at?

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>>23282348
Is there functionally a difference between coral reef waters and just sorta rocky shallow waters?

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good morning gentlemen

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>>23289776
Good morning check the stream for Ayunda goodness

>>23289686
In terms of annoying foreign ships? Not much from what I can tell.

>>23284270
Sounds about right, I'll look into cold current coral reeves and see if I can get some inspiration.
What I learnt today: deep-water coral exists and they can be in pretty cold waters up in the North Sea.

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>>23290033
Unintuitively, cold waters tend to be richer in nutrients, which results in more plankton, which reverberates in the rest of the food chain. So cold water ecosystems often thrive more than warmer waters.

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Ah good
Everyone finally woke up

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so i got the font to, uh, "work", so to speak, but since i'm still researching how to properly add diacritics, it's gonna be really bad. like in wordpad, it straight up doesn't always work when not zoomed in for god knows why
another thing: it only works on all caps. why? because i'm stupid and don't feel like fixing it. also there's a new letter for W, which doesn't do anything, it's just a placeholder for words that start with vowels

this is definitely a horrible prototype, but if you want to fuck around with it, go ahead. i have to go do something in the meantime, i'll be back around 7 am my time
https://files.catbox.moe/s5hxc2.ttf

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>>23290033
potions. why the literal fuck have i not said anything about potions in risu lore? they wopuld be growing this shit all the time

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>>23294325
Hey, nice! There's some quirks but it looks really good, nice job anon.

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>>23290321
Yeah, it's just a bit funny since shallow-water corals are notoriously picky about water temperature.

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>>23297034
That's true, really finicky about pH too. Truly the princess ecosystem.
I got to work on the biome map today. I should finish the nijicontinent pretty soon and make another pretty version, maybe put together a legend.
Also Wosemi is singing some absolute bangers, go watch her.

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>>23297034
/meat/'s greatest enemy is global warming it seems

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>>23297274
GOOKMOOT!!

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>>23297274
Uhhhhhhhh Moot?

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>>23297274
The map looks pretty good! mfw it's displaying properly on my side

>>23297427
To be fair, that's kind of a given for tropical countries in general. At least we have highlands to not drown in a few centuries.

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>>23297274
fauna what are you doing here

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>>23297274
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU I DON'T MISS FAUNAAAA

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This is a sign we need /uuu/ content

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>Rosemi's setlist
It's amazing.
As for the coral thing, I think making them big enough to screw with humans as >21893746 said might be a bit too much. That said, I think we can still have the coral aesthetics after checking Comma's site (for her latest... report). Maybe instead of coral polyp, it's actually more like Comma's undisguised form that live in something resembling an enlarged coral reef.
The idea's that when they feed on humans, their flesh is consumed for their nutrients (although other foreign marine animals and algae are fair game too), while their bones are repurposed by the creatures to expand the coral reef. Sacrifices are done regularly by Comma's clergy, although when Comma's priestesses decide to retire, it's also seen as a proper way to go as they join the expanding clonal creature.
This touches on both streamers from Comma's group (although leaning more towards Comma), which I think seems fitting for her lore. There's a third member (Donna) whose lore is being a bug that provides internal organs, but Donna isn't a streamer, so I don't know if that should be included.

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>>23297673
Missing out on faunacentaur, feels real bad for ya.
Anyway, it's now up to date with the latest new map! Also figured out a simple legend.
There's a few tiny islands I wasn't sure what biome to apply to, but as usual this is a WIP. Let me know if there are any mistakes, or ideas for improvements.

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>>23300451
And as always
/ggg/ IS India!

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>>23300451
Being /meat/ is pain...
As for the legend, it looks nice, although be noted that I grouped some of the more similar ones together for simplicity's sake:
>Csa/Csb
>Cfb/Cfc
>Dsa/Dsb
>Dsc/Dsd
>Dfa/Dfb
>Dfc/Dfd
>Dwa/Dwb
>Dwc/Dwd
I've also made a few minor updates to the .PSD since then, although I guess we aren't really in a hurry, so the update can be implemented once the other /meat/anon has made more progress on the map.
also it's a climate map, not a biome map

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>>23301123
Climate, right! But yeah, while coloring I used the color corresponding to the first climate, I'll have to go through and remove the extras, will make the legend a lot more concise.
>>23300704
pls show bobs and cunny

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>>23300704
Smelly oceans?

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>risu visits rose
>rose gets fucked by schizos
Are risuners the schizos all along?

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>>23303073
>risu visits /morig/
>schizo flareup
Holy shit, you might be onto something

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>>23303145
If luna gets a fuckload of antis soon then OGsuner is either a prophet or somehow controls all the schizos.

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>>23301123
Update Changelog:
- Added new continent
- Added more islands and geographical features
- Added lakes

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>>23304204
Ohh, that's perfect timing! Guess I'll do climates for the horny continent as well, then.
Would it be possible to put lakes that aren't at sea level on their own layer? Maybe those lakes are at sea level, I just thought I'd mention it.

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>>23297274
>>23300451
very cool

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>>23304400
>Would it be possible to put lakes that aren't at sea level on their own layer?
That would require making a separate layer. Hold on

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>>23304455
I hope it's not a big bother, I was thinking it could be similar to rivers. Those thin peninsulas on some islands look great.

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>>23304559
Land

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>>23305558
>>23304559
Rivers and Lakes
Very scuffed. Still experimental

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>>23305558
>>23305608
That's perfect, thank you.

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>>23290321
cold-water tropical reefs seem like a bit of an oxymoron, but look at modern day Hawaii, where the average water temp gets NOTICEABLY cooler as you move from Kona to Midway. Hence the greater density of rare corals and endemic species like Bandit Angelfish and Seale's Grouper. Or even certain waifs and strays like Phoenix Island Damselfish.

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>>23307435
How about mola mola?

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>>23308370
I know jack shit about the mola other than it tastes like shit and has few natural predators.

If you want cold-water reefs, they're totally okay.

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Suggest some city names for /vsj+/
I think the capital should be called Nova Pomfia

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I HATE THE ANTI-VTUBER!!!

Bump.

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>>23308419
it's a pretty funny fish, they barely move at all and have next to none net nutrition, kinda like koalas.

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>>23310977
I figured as such, if you want a wacky-ass fish, the Napoleon Wrasse is always fun (and ecologically useul).

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I just want cute megafauna animals, real or fantasy.

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>>23313341
The /meat/ not!capybaras are pretty huge and cute. The other /vt/ megafauna... Yeah, pretty scary.

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>>23313417
>/meat/ is the one with the cute megafauna
The strange dichotomy strikes again

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>>23313417
I heard there's talks of wooly mammoths earlier. Think mammoths can be cute?

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>>23314443
Eh, I can imagine someone finding mammoths cute, but I feel like they lack intrinsic cute characteristics... They're probably cuter than /morig/ skeleton giant sloths and Risu dino-birds though.

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>>23304400
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1pbT_dQ0_CZlhaE-Tju69PUpkZRvXQEjP&authuser=renolam.kaishun%40gmail.com&usp=drive_fs
Link to my climate .pdn again in case you need it

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>>23314536
I think Mammoths can be cute if they're like fluffy elephants. They're long-legged aggressive fluffy elephants though.

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>>23254635
>>23259364
/kr/ anon here. We recently updated the OP to include NijiKR, Former NijiKRs, other large companies such as Isegye Idol, and smaller indies like Plumverse and VRecord. Unfortunately the recent NijiKR graduations have slowed the thread down so there's a lot of downtime inbetween threads, usually it's only up when there's something to watch.

If you have any questions just feel free to ask in /kr/, or reply to this post. I don't know how this general works, but I'll reply to questions as I can.

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>>23250440
>>23250698
>>23250964
>>23254635
>>23259355
>>23259364
Thank you all for the kind words and advice. For now, I'm going to keep working with the assumption that /rose/ is still around. /OBSY/ seems to be having a rocky start, so it may fail to become a stable thread. If that's the case, /rose/ may make a return and I won't have to do anything. After a few weeks, there should be a stable thread for me to work with either way. Worst case scenario, maybe I'll have to start writing for /NijiEN/ itself.
In happier news, I had a really good milkshake earlier. If you ever go to a Steak & Shake, I highly recommend the birthday cake shake. You can get it even if it's not your birthday, that's just the name of the shake.

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>>23316029
Ah rosebro, holy shit rosemi's english karaoke earlier was fun. I've never seen a vtuber sing Supermassive Blackhole, Muse is one of my favorite bands.

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>>23315678
Welcome!
This thread's basically just a fun little project where we make this board into a functional world, where the individual threads are countries and the vtubers as their gods (mostly). Because of that, we sometimes discuss about what happens to other threads, and whether we have to update our map to reflect changes in this board. /kr/'s fine in terms of activity, though, just some confusions due to the recent merger also feel free to join in if this happens to be your particular kind of autism.
For the anon maintaining https://vtwbg.github.io/, please change nijikr on the label to /kr/ when you have time.

>>23316029
IMO it's still too early to tell if /obsy/ is going to stick around (in fact, it's probably too early to tell if /rose/'s gone for good), so I wouldn't worry about it too much for now. Hope things all work out for you and the other rosebuds in the end!
>mfw not living in burgerland

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>>23254635
well, now that /vsj+/ actually has stuff, we actually have some stuff that can brew on their continent, since /pcclg/ has begun ramping up.

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>>23316702
>Because of that, we sometimes discuss about what happens to other threads
I see, I can give a little bit of a QRD on KR stuff:
- A lot of NijiKRs have reincarnated
- Isegye Idol are one of the top vtubers on Twitch, not just in Korea but globally
- A lot of KR indie corporations have popped up, emulating what happened in the EN market, a few get above 100CCV, most of them around that number, and a lot more of them fewer than that, but the numbers are growing.
- Market continues to grow
That's about it for the /kr/ stuff. Not sure if stuff like that becomes 'lore' but hopefully it might be of some use to people here.

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https://mznakr.booth.pm/items/2672302
/meat/ here
Akira designed a bunch of cute chimera mascots.
We think it's fitting some of our wildlife references them

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>>23319650
OH GOD OH FUCK HE'S BACK NIGGERMAN HELP ME

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>>23319650
i'm getting a ficchu

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>>23319650
Ficchu gang!

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Vtuber: drew a bunch of silly doodles of animals
Anons: this is great material for this worldbuilding project!
You guys show more dedication to your chuubas than any other generals

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>>23320800
This general is honestly the hidden gem of /vt/ people here are mostly nice, great for discovering other oshis, and some really cool stories have come out of here. (its how i discovered meat)

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>>23320800
We're a very finely crafted brand of autism.

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>>23319650
Oh hey that's my grandpa!

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>>23319650
Tag yourself Im six legged chimkin

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>>23321579
I'm >>23319758

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>>23321033
The true /unity/ thread

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>>23320800
I think it's a good idea if every fluff a chuuba has done no matter how small they might be gets referenced or utilized creatively.
Like Risu's love for rubber duckies could be turned into something.
/who/ could reference some of Moom's OCs

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>>23322933
>/who/ could reference some of Moom's OCs
I have already

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>>23318944
Thanks for the info. Currently, /kr/ doesn't really have any lore here, since we prefer having people from those threads write their lore, and so far no one from there seems interested in us. Glad to hear that they're doing well, though!

>>23319650
We have enough wetland and jungle for Ficchu and Cocecco respectively, so it shouldn't be difficult to work them in based on similar RL animals. Can't tell if Booo is supposed to be just a mundane pig or some kind of short-trunked elephant, though.

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tomorrow i should have risu lore down. its been going along pretty steadily

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>>23324941
Would Risuners be interested in brushes for their tails?

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>>23324941
Glad to hear that. You actually inspired me to tidy up /meat/'s rentry as well! Still, I might be taking a brief break from writing too much lore lest I burn out. That Potion Craft stream's also making me feel things, and I have to pay a visit to /wg/. Answering questions and other thread-related duties are still available, though. I can also write responses and such for the Risuners' visit to /meat/ as well.

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The brush question got me interested in Risuner grooming. Since Risuners are squirrels they probably don't like baths and showers. So I was thinking maybe they spit bathe with scrub brushes and rags. Spit bathing is where you wash yourself using a sink or a pot of water and wash yourself without pouring water on you. Exception to spit bathing would probably be to shampoo the hair and tail once in a while. Finding water would be no problem in /risu/. Its finding "clean" water that's difficult.

As for brushes they can be made out of soft fibers or horse hair glued to a slab of wood. Brushes need to be firm yet soft enough to comfortably brush the fur. Also do Risuners have remedies for dealing with fleas and ticks?

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>>23328932
The tails and ears are the only hairy parts of them, so they wouldn't hate baths.

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>>23323959
I think Boooo is a pig-monkey hybrid

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>>23323016
Can I see where?

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>>23330434
It's in the folklore section of the general lore. The Nightmares are referenced in a short story

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>>23329055
If that's true then what kind of baths would /risu/ have? Would they have hot water? Wooden and clay bath tubs are a thing.

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>>23331284
dunno, i'm not a risuner, they'd probably get washed at rivers since they're stone age and primitive, maybe grooming would be a communal activity among the villages where they'd spend time cleaning each other.

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Here's a topic for your culture: how do you bathe? Do you have group baths or bathe alone? Do you have hot baths or cold? Do you have bathtubs or showers?

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>Try to write lore
>Get a good way though in parts
>Roadblock into how to connect the parts in a way true to the source thread lore

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>>23334737
when in doubt, just post it in bullet points and sections, it's what i've done for /who/'s lore

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my last bump until tomorrow. someone take over for me, please.

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>>23340474
Everyone is asleep. Sorry you had to go through it

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>>23334737
It's best to just jot them down in pieces instead of paragraphs

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>>23319650
"Akira isnt just a goddess of pleasure. She experiments too. Creating homunculi and chimeras."
"Really? Show me one."
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"Thay's just a fish... with a pair of legs."
"I didnt say she was good at it."

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>>23331284
Mud baths

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>>23342675
Wait
Mud baths is one of the traditional Indonesian rites
https://www.scmp.com/photos/asia/3169737/mebuug-buugan-mud-bath-tradition-bali

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>>23344990
I can't imagine it being a good idea for Risuners' tail though

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>>23345475
Depends on the after care
Maybe it's the clay and soil that gives Risuners the smooth sheen

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>>23348995
i mean. shits all magically enchanted anyway so i could just say that risuners bathe in mud then wash everything off with rainwater. EZ skincare

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>>23350576
+10 Poofiness
+15 Disease Resistance

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You think this is how 'revelations' are handled?

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Thread needs more turtles.

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>>23353258
to eat them
t. Charles Darwin

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>>23353293
Turtles are good eats. They're also cute sometimes.

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Any other plans for megafauna? I'd like to see Dragons. If Coco didn't graduate then Hololive continent could still have dragons.

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>>23356205
NijiEN could have some feathery dragons.

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>>23356205
Dragons arent limited to Coco though
There are Nijis, Small Corpos, Indies with dragon themes
Like Selen and Ryugon

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>>23356331
selens fans are literally called dragoons. I imagine /haha/ to have a fuckload of them

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Gentlemen? I can say for sure that the risu lore will be updated fully by the end of the day. Feels good man. Then i can finally continue my short stories and captains logs. still gonna do rose ones as if /rose/ were alive and not give a fuck about the anti storm on her. rosebro deserves something to look forward to after all

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>>23358644
Very nice! Also, some people talked about /risu/ bathing above >>23331284 in case you missed it.
I miss rosebro...

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>>23358888
Ah yes. Well if i were to go off thread shit then people are downright fucking thirsty for risu but that doesnt give me much so like usual go off risus lore which is of course magic forest go brrrrrrrrrrr. Not to mention risu gets a FUCKLOAD of rain so they probably just collect rainwater and dump it on themselves. Apparantely its not that uncommon in indonesia to just dump a bucket on yourself. As for the mud baths i cannot say for sure but I feel like that would indeed ruin their tails.

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Aight, climate map, horny edition.
Is /uoh/ a huge plateau like the Himalayas, or it's supposed to be one fuckhuge mountain?

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>>23359400
risu feels very unique given where it is desu. its like a bridge connecting the 2 continents. kind of cool to look at desu

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>>23359400
It'd be more on-brand for /uoh/ to be flat, so my vote is for the plateau.

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>>23358644
>>23358888
You Risuners are too sweet, thanks for caring about me so much. I really do appreciate it. But don't worry too much, I won't be going anywhere as long as this thread's around. My love for worldbuilding is far too strong to keep quiet. I'm excited to see more stories from you guys as well.

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>>23359652
Haha yeah, I wonder if there's a country IRL that is similar in that regard. Maybe some kind of construction project could make use of this characteristic.

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the font is done babey!!! this finally eliminates the process of constantly copying and pasting glyphs in ms paint
also, to write lower diacritics with N, V, or S, you just have to "capitalize" them (so just use shift)
also, if you need to write two vowels in a row (or start a word with one), you put them over/under what W would be, looks like a weird L. you can put them under or over if you want, no one cares, maybe i'll change the glyph to be unique for this later on. i also fixed the glitch where glyphs would separate or not render properly in programs that manipulate the vectors like wordpad, so that's nice.
https://files.catbox.moe/vctnnd.ttf

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>>23363007
/inf/ chama....

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>>23316702
>For the anon maintaining https://vtwbg.github.io/, please change nijikr on the label to /kr/ when you have time.
Done! Is there anything else we plan on changing? Didn't /nyan/ secede from /vsj+/? There was also some talk about adding the ID3 threads and /clg/ seemed to be going through some restructuring.

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>>23363240
Neat! How exactly would I use it tho?

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>>23363240
Ah! Anon, this is perfect, thank you! This is gonna come in really handy, they look great. I'm gonna anchor it so everyone can use it easily.
>>23365908
Open Notepad, Format->Font->Show more fonts, then drag and drop the .ttf file where it says to do so (this is on windows 10). It'll become usable on Notepad and Word and other programs.

>>23243624
Please anchor https://files.catbox.moe/vctnnd.ttf as /morig/'s font.

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>>23367898
lol, it's not that complex actually, if you're on windows 10, you can just right click and install the file. it shouldn't take more than literally 3 seconds, 8 if you have a potato.
besides that, thank you, and i've tweaked the geometry on that one a bit, which solves a lot of the ear's issues when subdividing. maybe you can stich them onto the rest of the mask and not undo the work other i've seen you put into it
https://files.catbox.moe/5mh5m8.blend

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>>23369330
Sweet, got it working.

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Did the other Sanalite finish his part of the story yet?

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Its been a week. I got some ideas. I'm still waiting for the Sanalite to finish his writing before I do anything big for /nasa/. I do have some small ideas in the meantime.

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>>23370606
Don't think we really get any updates from /nasa/ for a while

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>>23376179
I was just wondering if I missed the archive. I checked the archive doc and there's nothing yet. Hoping he's having a better time writing this time around.

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>>23376398
If there are then it isn't anchored, I'm afraid. Things have been kind of slow lately it seems.

>>23360260
Glad to hear that! I hope things will get rosy again for you all soon.

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>>23360260
I'm back from a forced vacation. I will bake you Rosebuds some comfort cookies. Strawberry topped shortbread cookies should do I think.

>>23377480
Well I'll keep an eye on the thread when the lore does get archived. I'll ask /nasa/ if they have progress when they come back.

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I have a question for /meat/ and their tattoos. Would it be possible to engineer a chuubanite tattoo that helps reset the person's immune system to build up their tolerance to allergies? /nasa/ could engineer tattoo pens for more precise tattoos. I'm trying to look for a solution to the adult allergy problem.

Also trying to prepare a plan for the Principal to lose his suit in case the story changes.

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>>23380621
It just might!
QRD on how the immune system (and allergy works):
>Your immune system mostly comprises of B cells and T cells.
>These cells are each made differently, each theoretically binding to a specific antigen that would trigger immune response.
>When these cells undergo maturation (usually in bone marrow and thymus - the latter is where T cell got its name, incidentally), they're selectively killed if they either a) do not work at all or b) binds to antigen that the body already has, or are generally considered harmless.
>Allergies (and autoimmune diseases) stem from a failure of selection when it comes to (b), so these cells survive in your system.
>When they bind to the harmless antigen (usually called allergen in this context), they trigger your immune response that will both give you a bad time, and make the next time generally worse.
IRL there are no (proven) treatments for allergy since we don't know how to make the relevant organs recognise and kill the allergen-binding immune cells. However, since this is fantasy, we can say that it is possible to make the organs do that by renewing them while the allergen is present. As it happens, /meat/ chuubanite can cause cells to quickly undergo their life cycle and regenerate wounded tissues as a result. As such, a possible way for /meat/ to cure allergy (and potentially repair immune system) would be:
>Cause the thymus and bone marrow (collectively called primary lymphoid organs) to undergo regeneration, either through injection or tattoo.
>Introduce allergen in the patient's system during the process.
>If successful, the PLO regrow while thinking the allergens are a natural part of your body, thus killing any immune cells that are triggered by them.
Both due to how it works and for balancing reasons, it's probably a fairly lengthy process that requires careful control of the environment for the duration of the treatment - since it might make the system also not respond to legit harmful antigens if they contaminate the regrowing organs. That might also be why tattoo treatment would be preferable if you prefer that aesthetics - tattoo and glyphs allow for a longer and more controlled duration for the treatment, which is more critical compared with the (relatively) simple regeneration of skins and muscle tissues.

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>>23382548
no IRL cure for allergy*
There are multiple ways to suppress the allergic responses to not kill you.

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>>23382548
I want to try an experiment with volunteers who are too old to tolerate Vitubia's atmosphere using these tattoos. With proper engineering we could have the tattoos lessen the symptoms of allergies. I'm not sure if we can boost the immune system without cannibalism.

The other thing /nasa/ can do is create surgical implants instead of tattoos. Naturally we have surgical implants like dialysis, pace makers, and insulin for those that need it. That said rebuilding the technology for surgical implants will take some time as we need precision robotics to pull it off.

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>>23383487
>I'm not sure if we can boost the immune system without cannibalism.
Theoretically, the glyphs should work as long as there is a regular injection of chuubanite into the system and thus the tattoo glyph. /meat/ uses cannibalism (naturally) to do that, but other means of injecting chuubanite into the system should work as well. I don't know if different chuubanites are similar enough for /nasa/ chuubanite to be used as a replacement, or if they need to inject /meat/ chuubanite specifically. Either way, it should be possible to make them into injections or medicines instead of the Other White Meat.
It's also possible that the glyphs don't need to be kept active once PLO regrows properly, so the patients don't have to take injections for the rest of their life (although if it regenerates thymus, it's probably also good at halting immune system degradation that happens at old age). Ultimately, it can go either way depending on which one works better for your needs.

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>>23384062
Sounds like we'll be sticking with tattoos to surpress symptoms for now. By the time we engineer chuubanite like that it'll be moot. We'll have youth that can survive without spacesuits.

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>>23384636
True, although based on the mechanism, this treatment should also work for treating allergies, autoimmune diseases, and potentially health age extension as well, so it can still be a worthwhile investment in the long run (most probably beyond the scope of this project, but still). For now, though, tattoos will have to do. The initial experiments can be done either in /nasa/ or /meat/,
>/nasa/ most definitely has a better medical infrastructure and is more likely to be able to keep things truly sterile
>/meat/ has an abundance of /meat/ chuubanite for use, and existing tools might work better (at least for the administrators) for the proper procedure.
/meat/ would definitely be interested in seeing /nasa/ help improve their tools, though, alongside more general medical knowledge exchange. Precision tattooing tools will make the tattoos required smaller and/or regulate the process closer for better results, so it's beneficial for /nasa/ as well.

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>>23385176
Well at least we have a plan. Just have to wait for the grand compromise now. I know the tattoos will be done in /nasa/ as we will not allow /meat/ to use our tools. Its also the same reason why /nasa/'s tools for shipbuilding will be restricted to stainless steel hand tools in our shipyard if other nations use it. Especially if we're going to need to rely on hoomans for labor. As for re-supplying chuubanite to the tattoos, it can be done with an implanted device like insulin dispensers. So we can supply chuubanite solution without needing to reapply the tattoos. As for the type of chuubanite I can't say what will happen. What I do know is /nasa/'s chuubanite has "space powers". As to the extent of what those space powers are I can't say. I'm debating between wormholes and gravity. Or both if I can make the science plausible. Either way chuubanite will have to be the solution to /nasa/'s transportation problems.

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>>23386205
Fair enough, /meat/'s own tools should be good enough for the purpose, and a large tattoo might not necessarily be a drawback depending on the patients' taste. For resupplying chuubanite, dispensers should work, and for the type of chuubanite, I guess at least initially you'll want to use /meat/ chuubanite, and only start testing with other material once things have been proven to work.
>between wormholes and gravity
To be fair, you probably need manipulation of the latter to make the former, so it could definitely be both. Maybe the basic function is gravity, while wormholes require more precise manipulation of /nasa/ chuubanite to function?

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>>23386205
Or instead of creating timeloops, /nasa/ chuubanite is advanced rocket fuel. Nothing more.

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>>23382548
so, /meat/ chuubanite can help /nasa/, but they aren't advanced enough to be able to administer it in a safe way, whereas /nasa/ would be technologically advanced enough to be able to do it if 1) they had it, which can be fixed simply enough by trading with /meat/, and 2) if they still have the tools necessary to do it. i figure at this point they probably do, but if we want to prevent it from being used on everyone from /nasa/ this could be the way to explain it in lore. also, i think it is worth mentioning that glyph's are not a /meat/ specific thing, but /meat/ is using it to make tattoos, which are also technically not a /meat/ specific thing, but seeing as how it involves scars and needles, is probably more common in /meat/. glyphs are capable of doing basic stuff like glowing, heating up, and moving in a direction the z axis from the perspective of the glyph, which, btw, i think should be dynamic if the glyph is on a curved surface and faction specific glyphs, with faction specific chuubanite, can make use of that faction specific chuubanite effect, but i don't think a faction specific glyph should be usable with any kind of vitubium. furthermore, the glyph shouldn't be capable of stopping a passive effect of the chuubanite, just controlling some aspect of it. in /meat/s case, it's the ability to force organic material to go through the life cycle at a heightened pace, so a glyph could strengthen the effect in one region at the cost of weakening, but not fully stopping it in any other region. on a related note, i also personally think tattoos should take vitubium out of the blood stream as a fuel source, and thus limit, but not remove the ability to make use of that vitubium since some of it will be stored in the tattoo, imagine it like your blood has another organ to send nutrients to, having another arm isn't going to prevent your blood from sending nutrients to your brain, but it will force you to eat more relatively to someone else to stay completely healthy.
>>23386800
according to general relativity, the sensation we know as gravity is merely the curvature of space-time. wormholes are theoretically possible, but even if you could control the curvature of space-time, it would take way too much energy to be reasonable, so merely curving space and time wouldn't be enough to make a wormhole.
damn, i started this when >>23380621 asked the question, yet for some reason it took this long to write down all of my thoughts on this, and i still feel like i am missing something. i'll just post this for now. if i have any incomplete or poorly articulated thought i'll clarify or finish explaining whatever it was i was thinking.

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>>23387194
>>23386800
Alternatively /nasa/ chuubanite is >>23386942 . Meaning there is no gravity manipulation. As the only way for gravity to work is to create a mass heavier than the planet. Which means /nasa/ will just have to build vehicles with rockets to carry cargo to the station and back.

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>>23387784
personally, i think it might be a good idea to say that /nasa/ chuubanite can curve the very near-by fabric of space time. in star trek, they don't use rocket fuel at all. the ship itself is basically completely stationary the whole time, while space itself moves around the enterprise, causing it to appear as though it were in motion relative to everything else. i think it would be super cool if /nasa/ used that as a reference for how they are able to get into space.

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>>23388051
What if Sana-type chuubanite distorted space, and you needed Kronii-type chuubanite to distort time as well.

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>>23388051
>>23388375
Nah, rocket powered sleds are fun. And using the nuclear rocket model for chuubanite means we don't have to process too much fuel as chuubanite heats the air for propulsion. And we can design the vehicles to have wheels during the summer time when there's no snow. It might be a boring solution. However it matches spacemen's niche as we're masters of vehicles. Only downside about sleds and wagons is they have no armor. As they have to be as light as possible to carry cargo. Also if you shoot the engine it will explode. And there's very little control once you start going fast compared to motor vehicles. Sleds are good for going one direction fast. And that's it.

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>>23388375
>what if gura type chuubanite made h2o, and you would need finnana type chuubanite to make water as well?
that's not how it works, but maybe you can get unique, non-reductivistic reactions when you combine two different types of chuubanite, so the ability to warp space-time would require kronii type chuubanite. the problem with this being that /nasa/ didn't interact with /infinity/ before they crashlanded on /vt/, and it would be strange if they had their own kronii chuubanite before that. it also still leaves us with the question of what /nasa/ chuubanite actually does on it's own.

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>>23388935
on the subject of making things lighter, i was thinking about what if /nasa/ chuubanite was massless, or made things around it massless, and then i started thinking about negative mass, which i immediately dismissed as an incoherent notion, but then, upon further consideration, realized that it might technically be possible in terms of it's effects, but then i got to wondering what the negative mass equivalent of a black hole would be, which made me realize that it was pretty much an incoherent notion all along. the thought process was fun though, so i wanted to let you know.

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>>23388954
A different topic, but what if /ggg/ chuubanite lets you breathe underwater like a scuba mask?

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>>23389288
that would help with tourism, but if that was the effect, then you wouldn't know about it because all water in the ocean would be breathable.

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>>23388935
>>23388954
I just wanted an excuse to post this old picture that was in my folder for some reason.
I'll say, if /nasa/ chuubanite had the unique property of allowing FTL travel, this would put other space-faring nations (/pagi/ and /moon/) in an awkward position. Something universally useful like FTL travel should probably be doable with any type of chuubanite provided the right processing, e.g. any chuubanite can power FTL if it's purified into 99.99999% pure vitubium and resonated into a ultraplasmic temporal field. Maybe /nasa/ chuubanite could be especially efficient or powerful in this application.
>>23389233
Negative mass is a physical concept that receives serious consideration from physicists. Ultimately, its existence would break the First Law.
Consider a positive mass particle, and a negative mass particle next to each other. The (-) particle will be attracted to the (+) particle, while the (+) will be repulsed by the (-) particle. Thus, the (-) will accelerate towards the other, and the (+) will accelerate away from the other. Together, they form a source of infinite energy by accelerating one another infinitely with no input.

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>>23389427
Nah, you still drown underwater. However Atlantis can be underwater cities with buildings that have crystal chuubanite. The crystals extract oxygen from the water to fill the buildings with air. The hydrogen gas is also extracted and pumped into gas burning furnaces that keep the cities warm and illuminated. How was this tech made? The natives don't know. Sharks are kinda dumb like that. But I want to wait on /ggg/'s official lore. This is just an idea.

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>>23389817
/ggg/ has some lore, iirc atlanteans have gills, which makes this functionality kind of moot.

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>>23389886
Not really. You could have dry underwater buildings for metalurgy and food storage. That said you can do all that on land. Its an idea. That's all.

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>>23390127
I just brought it up cuz you mentioned the /ggg/ lore, I like the idea of an electrolysis chuubanite, I think it's a neat idea!

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>>23389460
You only want to do FTL in space. Trying to go FTL on Earth will burn you alive in the atmosphere before you reach top speed. Besides the rocket sleds will be slowed by cargo weight.

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>>23390340
Gotta have underwater sex somehow.

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>>23390384
I think you misinterpreted my post, 'cause I don't see how this relates to it kek. Unless you're just adding more info. I think the rocket sleds are pretty fucking cool, certainly those bread dogs don't look like they make for great sled dogs, their legs seem a bit short.

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>>23390576
Common sense tells me if you try to go too fast in an atmosphere, then the atmosphere will hit you so fast that it'll combust and you'll die.

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>>23390778
Well, yes, this is true, but my post doesn't talk about going FTL in the atmosphere.

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>>23389460
i want to avoid FTL anything in this setting if at all possible. also, i don't know why, but for some reason i am constantly rediscovering the wheel in terms of my knowledge of science, thinking i made a new discovery only to realize everyone else got there decades ago, so at this point i usually assume any idea i think of regarding science has already been thought of, even if i have never heard anything about it. negative mass would be incoherent. things falling to something falling away from the other is ridiculous that i can't even fully imagine what it would look like on a grander scheme, although i am sure physicists have thought of it to a much more technical degree if it has received as much serious consideration as you describe. i haven't looked it up to see what physicists have said about it yet, but i might if you wont explain it here yourself.
>>23389817
dilution of chuubanite in the ocean, no matter how fast it expires, would cause the whole ocean to be breathable. since vitubium binds with the chemicals themselves, it would be incorporated into the whole water cycle. if the chuubanite itself is what allows people to breath underwater, then the chuubanite, even if it starts out as a crystal, will spread out across the ocean. if the chuubanite breaks water particles up into h2 and o, either water would cease to exist, or the chuubanite wouldn't have an effect at all. this extraction process must not be a product of the chuubanite for it to avoid this problem. the ability to form and break chemical bonds so easily might cause a few questions either in terms of physics, or practicality, and even if they were all answered, this process only explains how they would be able to make the insides of their buildings breathable for non-atlanteans, not how to breathe underwater, nevermind why it does this as >>23389886 already points out the fact that atlanteans have gills and would therefore have no need to make their buildings breathable for non-atlanteans, so unless there is more to the chuubanite effect, or unless you want the chuubanite effect to be utterly useless outside of allowing tourism to take place in certain areas of atlantis, then a different effect might be preferable. sorry if i am coming across too harshly. i want to encourage people to think of ideas, but i also want to make sure they all make sense in the setting. i have no ill will towards you and i hope you think of ways to either get around these problems, or else think of different ideas that could also be useful for /ggg/
>>23390954
nta, space is not a vacuum, limiting FTL to only space wont get around >>23390778's concerns, the bigger problems are how it would effect the laws of physics as a whole.

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Also thought about /ggg/ looking like the Coral Highlands from Monster Hunter World for some reason. I like above ground coral reefs.

>>23390954
Anyway these rockets cannot go FTL. If they could them /nasa/ could launch into orbit. FTL will need 30th century tech to be plausible. So /nasa/ is stuck here for a while.

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>>23391176
FTL is impossible. The fastest you can go is lightspeed. Don't ask me how to get to lightspeed. It is purely fiction.

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>>23391623
that's what i was saying, but actually getting to light speed is also impossible. i would say only light can reach light speed, but once matter reaches light speed, it immediately turns into light, see everyone's favorite einsteinian equation, e=mc^2.

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>>23391176
>negative mass
You have the gist of it. This breaching of the First Law due to the infinite acceleration of this particle pair is why negative mass is generally thought to be an impossibility. It's basically just a mathematical concept, unless you get into messy shit like the Casimir effect or reverse-spin atoms, which only mimic some aspects of negative mass.
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>>23391820
Weeeell. Impossible is a very strong term for something as poorly understood and high energy quantum gravity physics. Wormholes allow for FTL movement, and we have some instances of portal use in our lore. Granted, these are unique events that we cannot replicate with our current tech level, but it means such things are allowed by our universe's physics.

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Bored with space talk. Go back to how to safely underwater sex with shark girls.

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>>23392197
If we can't go FTL in the atmosphere, can we go FTL underwater?

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>>23392331
NO

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>>23392331
Same problem. Except water's going to keep you from fast. No more FTL talk. Only cute shark girls now. Brain hurt. Heart break.

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>>23392002
>Wormholes allow for FTL movement
no it doesn't. light travels the same speed always, yet if you have a hallway of mirrors and two lasers, one pointed towards the mirrors at an angle and one pointed straight, and both of them are recieved at the end of the hallway, then one of them will reach it's destination faster than the other, likewise, light traveling through a lens, even just the lens of earth's atmosphere, goes a different speed than light in a vacuum. this isn't because the speed of light changes at all, it's because light travels a different path, either more or less efficient than another. light moving through a wormhole is not faster than light moving regularly, it just means it is moving more efficiently, which is not ftl.
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water is denser than air, the atmosphere that exists under water would be worse than the atmosphere above water.

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>>23392570
If you shoot a beam towards a point, and you step through a wormhole and reach this point faster than the beam, you have traveled to the point faster than light without having a speed higher than the speed of light, this is the definition of "Faster Than Light" that is used commonly.

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>>23392743
frame of reference is important. the only reason that is a common definition for ftl is because writers and philosophers don't have the same meticulous attention to terminology. faster is a question of speed, even if you reach a point sooner than another, you have not necessarily gone faster than it unless your rate of acceleration is higher from your own frame of reference.

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>>23392930
I mean, it's the definition used by engineers and physicists as well. If you calculate your speed as distance traveled/travel time, a wormhole can allow you to achieve a measured speed higher than the speed of light even if the object never traveled at the speed of light in its own frame of reference.

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For balancing reasons /nasa/ cannot go FTL. No anti-gravity. No wormholes. /nasa/ chuubanite is for rockets. So we're going to have to get creative with rocket-based solutions. Anyway I'm going to bed to dream about playing with shark girls, squirrel girls, and plant pig people.

You can argue about FTL. But remember not to get trapped on San's rocket to Uranus.

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>>23393159
>San's rocket to Uranus.
I'm gonna try sanalite, but no promises.

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>>23392982
sorry if i am being a bit pedantic, i am sure you can figure out that i have autism, so that is a factor in why i am like this. i figure it might be worth mentioning, though that there is an interpretation of physics that would make worm holes definitely possible, but would also make it take longer to get through the wormhole than just traveling in that direction normally. idk much about it, though, so i wont say more.
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pretty sure it isn't, but the only equation i know about to figure out how fast something is going is d=rt, which might be a bit too simplistic. still, it is objectively the case that speed is a question of frame of reference. if engineers use a definition of speed that does not differentiate between the thing they are trying to measure and the background, they are doing it wrong.

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>>23393160
>If you calculate your speed as distance traveled/travel time, a wormhole can allow you to achieve a measured speed higher than the speed of light even if the object never traveled at the speed of light in its own frame of reference.
i guess i posted before i got to this part. no engineer or physicist worth their degree would ever do this. i can understand using unique frames of refrence when trying to figure out the speed of something relative to something else, like using a car that passes another car by to determine how fast they passed each other by, but judging the speed of something by the reference point of something else is in error. worm holes are when you reduce the distance between two points, so the distance of something that goes through a worm hole is by definition less than the distance of something that gets to the same place without using a worm hole. imagine a circle with two paths, one going through the diameter, the other going along the perimeter. the distance between one side of the circle and the other could be defined as either of them depending on what question you are asking, but if we wanted to know the distance traveled by something that was going from one side to the other we would have to know which path it took. you can't say that because there is another path that is longer, that therefore the distance traveled was longer even if you took a shorter route. you are objectively wrong if you think engineers or physicists define ftl in that way.

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>>23393458
>i am sure you can figure out that i have autism
Dude, no one cares that your Online Autism test said you have Ass burgers.

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>>23394556
i was diagnosed with asperger syndrome back when it was still in the dsm, the fact that i have autism doesn't have to excuse my behavior, nor do i expect it to, i just want you to know why i am like this.

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>>23394180
Eh, you can take it up with them I guess: https://files.catbox.moe/b41iva.pdf
Plenty of other literature using the term as I described it, check out Google Scholar
>judging the speed of something by the reference point of something else
Allow me to use an analogy. Consider an airplane. You can describe its velocity in multiple ways: its speed in its own reference frame (which should be 0), its air speed, its speed relative to the Earth, its speed relative to the sun, its speed relative to Voyager II. If you use its speed relative to the Earth, arguably the most useful one for navigation, you are judging its speed using the reference point of something else.
Then consider a space ship traveling through a wormhole. For the purposes of navigating a galaxy, it would be most logical to use the reference frame of the undisturbed space of the galaxy, rather than the reference frame of the ship. From the galaxy's point of view, once the transit through the wormhole is complete, the ship has traversed the distance at an average speed higher the the speed of light.
Anyway, this was fun! I'm headed to bed. Don't let the thread die yall.
>>23369330
Thanks anon, took me some time to get to it. I've started doodling a design for the mask, the linework is sloppy for now, but I think it'll work nicely once I finish it. Not sure if I want something on the temples or it would look too busy, I'm taking suggestions.

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Bump by saying that it's surprisingly difficult to find drawings of Mesoamerican cities that aren't in ruins, inhabited by lizard people and/or in a cyberpunk future. Picrel's probably how /meat/'s biggest city looks like. I like cloud forests.

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>>23395190
>Eh, you can take it up with them I guess: https://files.catbox.moe/b41iva.pdf
>These gradients would result in: STL (slower-than-light) vehicle velocity within the perturbed vacuum surrounding the ship; FTL vehicle velocity with respect to the unperturbed vacuum and Earth; and invisible FTL vehicle travel in all observer-frames that move STL with respect to Earth
this guy clarifies his frames of reference, if you do what he did, then i'll concede, but just saying something is faster than light, as if that were a quality of the thing in question, would be incorrect. i'd bet that most physicists would do this when they talk about this kind of faster than light motion, but i'm sure there are a few that don't because they assume their reader would figure it out on their own, which would be improper etiquette for publishing a study like this.
>For the purposes of navigating a galaxy, it would be most logical to use the reference frame of the undisturbed space of the galaxy
this is where our disagreement stems from. you are using these terms for practicality while i am using them in search for the most technically precise interpretation of truth. take the circle analogy i made, the perimeter is the undisturbed/unperturbed space, while the diameter is the path through the wormhole, it is technically the truth that the distance from one side of a circle to the other is it's diameter, but you don't actually want to know the distance, you just want to know which one will get you to the destination quicker. if you want to be technically correct when you say stuff like that, you have to do what the physicist did by clarifying from what frame of reference you are measuring everything from. therefore, ftl as it's own thing is impossible, but you can reach a destination sooner than light if light takes a less efficient path, which might appear ftl from certain frames of reference. btw, it might be annoying for onlookers, and maybe you didn't enjoy it either, but this kind of pedantic overanalyzing of trivia is really entertaining for me, so if it was fun for you, i am quite happy about that. good night, and thank you for humoring my autism.

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>>23398772
I WILL write /vtwbg/ lore about this, you cannot stop it. All you can do is give me ideas on how to integrate it.

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>>23401141
It's going to be a murder case isn't it

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>>23401141
>tfw ntr is even more malicious and sinister than /meat/
desu, anon was pretty stupid for thinking he could ever have a decent love life on 4chan.

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>>23401141
Uhhh reminder I guess, that the fag hooman don't frequent /who/ that much. If anything it's better to set it in /hlg/ since there's no gay RP ironic or genuine in any of the generals afaik and this is pretty much strictly /hlg/ business.

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>>23397630
tfw meat architect’s don’t get any recognition in the future and everyone just thinks aliens build the pyramids

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>>23402307
You know, another reason I have difficulty finding drawings is that many artists seem to think Mesoamerican architecture is step pyramid and step pyramid alone. It's kind of excessive even in the one I posted, but I don't really have a better alternative.

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>>23397630
>inhabited by lizard people
Why yes. I too love Warhammer

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Abandon science have sex with squirrels

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>>23408873
The fluffy tail...

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>>23408873
>Abandon science have sex with squirrels
You mean squirrel people... right?

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>>23408873
Never! Squirrel seggs is overrated anyways.

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I will turn various small mammals into cockwarmers

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>>23410955
Did I stutter?

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quirrel people are currently trying to have sex with plant people. The risuners sexual prowess knows no boundaries
>just like a lot of risuners these days

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>>23411514
All this sex drive and kronies are dead.

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>>23411514
im a bit out of the loop as I havent been active in the thread for a month or so now
why have the risuners become the cocksleeves of the vt world?

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>>23411514
We'll just draw boundaries on them then...

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>>23411578
risuners exchange nuts with everyone. they just also exchange "nuts" as well. this has always been a thing but ever since exploring, more people are figuring out that the fluffy tail people apparantely see sex as nothing more than fun and not anything too complex.

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>>23411705
You are unlucky you are close to nasfaqg then

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>>23411832
I wonder where the Kronies went...

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>>23412290
i hope they are doing well. maybe we should send a quick envoy just to see what happened to the kroniis that used to come here and try not to bother anyone else?

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so, speaking about sex, akira has her second virtual sex stream up right now, but it's only for people who paid for it, and have the technology to do it. just thought i would mention that to you guys.

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>>23401141
that is fucking tragic but a good cautionary tale, maybe go off of the chat logs they posted?

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>>23411705
this does mean they are at higher risk of STDs, so there's that too.

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>>23363781
Both /nyan/ and /pchex/ would logically be from /vsj+/ and /pcg/ respectively, but I think both origin threads have people here, so I'm waiting for their input on the matter. As for the ID3 ones, I'm still figuring out where they should go. I think we decided that /ehe~/ should take some land from western Bakatare, but that's about it.

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>>23415600
Good that we have ways to increase resistance against pathogens...

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>>23401968
Don't worry, this is 100% a product of the increasingly degenerate fallen empire of /hlgg/.
>>23415125
Yeah, I'm going through the important parts (the last 0.1% of the log). I feel like this resonated so strongly in /hlgg/, it must have been an affair story that somehow focused schizo energy through the sheer emotional strain of the chumbud.

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>gay romance
/hlgg/ really is like the roman empire huh

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Good late morning. Did /risu/ find their smuggled stainless steel shipbuilding tools for sale yet? The tools should have reached them by now unless the smugglers got caught.

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Its Saturday. Is everyone at work?

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>>23416974
This entire board is like the Roman empire if we're talking about gay romance.
>>23423878
The opposite for me, actually. I accidentally slept in until 12 PM and got woken up by my alarm that reminds me to eat lunch.

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>>23423878
I'm trying to make the clouds follow the convection cells' major winds on the globe, it would look pretty neat if I get it to work.

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I figure finals are in the next two weeks in Burgerland. So everyone's busy studying and partying before tests.

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>>23423938
What would Rosebutas think of strawberry jam topped shortbread cookies?

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>>23424838
That sounds DELICIOUS.

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>>23425775
Then I'll have to bake you some cookies when I visit /rose/. Hope you have butter.

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I did some surveying in /nasa/ during spare time for figuring out names for the capitol and land. Lamington station seems to be the popular name for the Capitol as the station itself is a Lamington class starship. No dice on the land. Though we do have an idea to name the land after Sana herself. Another popular idea is to keep N.A.S.A but give each letter a word.

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>>23428123
National Agency of Space Aussies

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I am home gentlemen

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>>23430493
Welcome home!

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>>23411566
Yeah I did notice this recently. Did those fuckers build a road in my territory and 2 cities then just vanish? Nah im sure there just lurking and will be back soon.
>>23413916
Holy fuck. I kinda want more info on this. Sounds hot
>>23415600
Risuners probably dont know about STD's or simply dont care? Never exactly thought about it.
>>23420550
Oh the risuners got it I was going to put it in a short story eventually.
>>23424383
Im past that thankfully but yeah burgerland be like that for the college kids.

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One last thing before finishing up my typing and storymaking is that i really hope rosebro has pics of rosemi with cat ears. Ill be actually disappointed if those arent added to your collection of reaction images

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>>23430493
Okaeri squirrel!

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>>23430821
>Holy fuck. I kinda want more info on this. Sounds hot
pretty sure it's over right now. idk if she'll have a third one. there is a dildo sort of thing and an onahole, and they are connected to the internet, allowing one to deliver the sensations from another. virtual sex. unfortunately, it's only for members who buy a ticket for the event. i haven't heard many anons report on all that happened besides these anons
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also, the previous virtual sex stream had a few anons describe it, so you can check the archive and see if you can't find some info about it.

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>>23430870
Cat ears aren't really my taste, but I very well could add them. Shouldn't be too hard, I know of a few already.

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I have a plan for /nasa/ to tame a mammoth. However that plan is going to take a few years of observation for both the mammoths and us. Our space suits give us a different silhouette than schizos. So perhaps the mammoths would see us as different creatures to the trolls. Mammoths should be as smart as elephants. So perhaps they can get comfortable around Sanalite observers.

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>>23434365
Apparently, the only way to tame mammoths is to capture them when they're young.

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>>23436315
i remember reading that in manga

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>>23436315
To get close to the mammoths when they're young mammoths first have to get comfortable around Sanalites watching them.

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