Why do all HoloEN friendships decay over time

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Every friendship formed between holoEN vtubers slowly decays over time, what is causing this phenomenon ?
Why cant these women just be friends
This includes council but to a lesser degree because they are still new, but inevitably mumei and Kronii will drift apart too.

AmeSame : deceased
TakaMori : deceased
InAme : a far off memory thats like a scattered dream
Kiara/Ame : in progress but Ame will kill it
Gura/Mori : "Is she talking about shrek again ? at this point im not surprised" (glad this one is dying though because fuck, mori is repulsive)

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>>24004553
Just cramming a bunch of different personalities together and hoping they'll become friends doesn't always work out

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>>24004553
>Every clip and stream I've seen they get along fine.
>/vt/ THEY'RE NO LONGER FRIENDS THEY HATE EACH OTHER

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>>24004553
Coworkers don't exactly form lasting friendships just because they are in the same company

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>>24004553
>takamori
Mori killed it and now Mori is trying to revive it for some reason

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>>24004960
I don't watch calli or kiara
What did calli do?

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>>24004790
watch streams

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sorry to bring it up to you, holoEN is Mumei's harem now

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>>24005020
>What did calli do?
If I did then we'd be here all day

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>>24004960
yeah what the fuck is with Mori trying to crawl back into Kiaras life all of a sudden.
Kiara even blatantly said on stream once how Mori likes other holoEN more than her, and you know that was the prettied up, soft version of what she really wanted to say

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>>24005060
They're like awkward and don't handle shit well but that cuz they're were outcast weebs kids but they seem to be fine even with the problems.

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>>24005020
Treat Kiara like shit. Basically being comatose during their collabs, saying she listened to her king cover and that it was very good (she didn't because it was a rickroll), lying about having listened to heart challenger. Those are the worst things she did, there were a lot of little things.
Kiara basically stopped asking her for collabs once she left Japan. Then one day Mori does a Holofes watch along and decides that she wants to hang out with Kiara again. Now she basically invited herself to Kiara's home during her birthday stream, Kiara sounded very unenthusiastic about it when she did it.

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>>24005130
Kiara's getting more popular and Mori wants to leech

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>>24005130
I love how Kiara just stonewalls her these days and barely reacts to her fake attempts at kindness

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>>24005296
>Kiara's getting more popular
I love Kiara more than Mori and all that, but come on now

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>>24005286
>that pic
New mind of mori drop when ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD99GKKS_KQ

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>>24005449
If that's true then Kiara has earned some extra respect from me.

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>>24004553
Because they are in constant competition.
You don't want to end up as the sidekick.

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>>24004553
TakoTori is still going strong
AmeTori we will see if their offline meeting brings them closer or rips them apart.
Gura does seem fed up with Mori's shit.
A lot of "pairings" never had a connection in the first phase (including InAme), so really you have like two examples of ships dying (AmeSame, TakaMori), two that are still thriving (TakoTori, AmeTori) and one edge case (GuraMori)

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>>24005595
Unironically better than Mori's music.

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>>24004553
Who cares about friendship anyways? Chat is more important. They should prioritize the viewers.

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>Never got annoyed or fight or forget to talk to friends of yours.
Y'all niggas never had friendships before.

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like oshi like fanbase they say

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>>24005702
>competition
as fucking if.
Ame and Gura are lazy as fuck.
There are plenty of simps to go around, the EN girls all make more money than they ever dreamed, they are not at any risk of loosing fans or income to the other girls

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>>24005973
Yes.

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HoloEN is boring

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>>24005973
>Haven’t spoken to a few friends in years.
>If I do we’ll connect same as always to smoke weed and play SC4
It’s weird how some friends require so little interaction but when time comes to hang out it’s like nothing ever changed. I hope those girls can at least build friendships like that while they’re living it up as popular vtubers.

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>>24006201
DUDE
cute

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>female "friendship"
Go figure

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>>24004553
Mori

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>>24005973
I've had friends where we drifted apart but we able to reconnect and hang out again.
I've also had friends where even if one side was maybe interested, the other isn't. They can't force it back together just because they want to.
It all depends on the circumstances.

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>>24006201

It probably depends on what you did with certain friend groups

Im still close to my high school friends because all we really did was play vidya and shoot the shit. We can still hangout in discord and play some vidya like the good old days. Whereas with my college and medschool friends, all we ever did was study together, party and bitch about professors, and that kinda gets old quick once you’re older and out of school

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>>24004553
>women
>friendship
I mean, it can happen once in a while but they don't make real friends as easily as men do. I guess since they're also women they are far more aware of the treacherous, manipulative and jealous nature of their own sex.

honestly, like some people mentioned you don't have to become friends with coworkers but when your job involves communicating with them and having a good time together usually you become friends naturally as time goes by. the only one I'd expect to never make any friends is Mori because she's borderline autistic

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>> 24005595
Opposite side:
Force a relationship on a new coworker depsite barely knowing eachother, make every collab (even birthdays) about herself and what she did, make constant creepy sexual comments about her, continue doing so even after getting to know eachother better in person and learning of Mori's discomfort, mutually create some distance to just figure things out, now she's pissed when Mori wants to strengthen the relationship because she didn't play along with her fantasy.

On-topic: Things will be fine, they're all pretty good content creators and will figure out these relationships over time

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>>24005286
>mori wants to be a holo again after holofes
>immediately schedule several international concerts with her RM
that was fast

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>>24006873
>make constant creepy sexual comments about her, continue doing so even after getting to know eachother better in person and learning of Mori's discomfort
So much this. It’s pretty creepy and borderline sexual harassment. I get that Cover is a Japanese company, but Hololive English should NOT have adopted the more problematic elements of Japanese like their treatment of women’s bodies. It’s part of the whole reason I dropped them back in 2021. Calli may be okay with it now, but if I think she should seriously consider legal rectification against Kiara or at the very least going public with her experience.

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>>24004553
Serious answer? While it's mostly applied to love, it's true for friendship too. Long distance relationship is a pain to maintain, especially in this case when some of them started finding friends who either live much closer to them, gel better with them, or both, in form of Council & IRyS.

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>>24005286
>Unenthusiastic
After being so excited at the prosptect of Mumei, Reine and Ame, When Mori said she'd be in Austria in summer and could meet, Kiara *coldly demanded Mori explain herself* kek

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>>24007144
No that's crazy too, they're adults and profesionals and can just work this out between themselves. No need to pursue legal actions or to overdramatize what actually happened.

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>>24005595
Mori been quiet ever since this dropped

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>>24007144
The business structure of Vtubers are sole proprietorship, so there's no way cover.inc would intervene for a fucking rumor, dumbass.
I hope you are a child who has never worked.
If the cover takes the problem seriously enough, they will fire Kiara like they did Rushia.

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>>24004553
Compared to JPs who lived in the same area (Tokyo) and constantly meet each other couple of days or so either for work or hanging out, it's easier to get close to each other than a bunch of Internet work friends.

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>>24005595
Peak Mori disstrack.

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>>24005286
Some olympic mental gymnastics

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The only friendships in myth are now with Kiara. Truly the heart and soul of EN.

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>>24007144
you put too much effort into this shitpost and i almost admire it

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>>24004553
>why does any friendship decay over time
You've never had a friend, have you anon?

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>>24004553
>All of those have one of Ame/Mori
Coincidence?

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>>24007830
>Mori been quiet
God i wish

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>>24008423
i've had friends still highschool that are still my best friends now. And ive had tons of other close friendships that died out.
They almost always die out only because we stop interacting or lost our reason for interacting.
But the myth girls have exactly as much reason and opportunity to interact now as the day they debut, no excuse

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>>24004553
>Why do all HoloEN friendships decay over time
3 introverts, 1 drunktard and Kiara. I hope the Cover for HoloEn3 at least bother to check a little bit their psychological compatibility(kek), and also whether they like streaming, so that it did not turn out like HoloEn2, where the girls have a fairly strong friendship, and a minimum of streaming hours.

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>>24005973
>>24007144
>>24005286
If ur not friends it means ur the best friends cause you are not insecure and trying to please anyone 1 on 1. It is a really strong thing. This happened with kiara and calli which was built on the foundation of calli saying no since kiara was a prick and kiara saying yes with erotic things trying to defend herself. With gura and ame, If u show signs of looking up to ame she will look down on you naturally. Ina is a korean offbeat, interactions with ppl are toxic except for ame cause she is able to fuck her in her place. If u treat things basic and superficial you will get something disgusting in social situations.

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>>24008659
>I hope the Cover for HoloEn3 at least bother to check a little bit their psychological compatibility
I hoped for the same too
but also questioning if there's a scientific method to do it

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>>24005595
I like it but damn this would be peak kino if it wasn't TTS

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>>24008659
>check a little bit their psychological compatibility
>Cover caring about that
The best they can do is MBTI

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>>24004553
because it's a forced friendship

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>>24009014
I dunno, I like the TTS. Gives it a bit of that Moonman feel.

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>>24008303
Kiara feels like that girl who tries to be friends to everyone but behind closed doors loves to gossip and add drama ngl.

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>>24008659
they wont cover loves their mentally ill loners too much

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>>24007168
>>24008027
These, everything else is drama posting, which is why I await full Myth or Council off collabs since those are always kino.

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>>24004553
When ur with ppl u know ppl. Examples: the 50% divorce rate.

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>>24012339
The other 50% that hasnt divorced are miserable cept for some minority.

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>>24006555
Same for me but armyfags. When you build a shared experience off of things that are unpleasant and not usually fun, you find those friendships fade quick once the "suck" is over. It's better to bond over hobbies rather than hardships.

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>>24005973
Of course these things happen. But if someone is annoying you consistently and being shitty to you consistently there's a certain point where you dont wanna maintain that relationship anymore

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>>24004553
>AmeSame : deceased
[citation needed]
just because they aren't crawling up eachother's asses doesn't mean they're not friends. if they were you'd be screaming and raging about /u/ bait.
>Kiara/Ame : in progress but Ame will kill it
[citation needed]

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I miss when Ray Narvaez Jr. and Michael Jones were better friends :(

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Why aren't Jack and Pewds friends any more? Was it all lies for on screen entertainment?

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>>24004741
>gen5 unity is unmatched despite some being veterans and others being newbies
>gen6 literally move in together
JPs manage.

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>>24012655
Thats how school shootings happen

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>>24005286
Kiara needs to get the fuck over it and accept Mori again so the fat cow can get away from IRyS

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>>24013016
Hell no. Mori needs to stay the hell away from Kiara. She inclined so much when she moved back home. Mori shouldn’t be around anyone.

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>>24005492
I think anon meant Kiara is growing in popularity.
Period.
Not "Kiara is growing more popular than Calli".

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>>24005162

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>>24005286
God help me if Mori fucks up Mumei offcollabs

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>>24004553
Because they’re not friends, they’re coworkers

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>>24009356
>but behind closed doors loves to gossip and add drama ngl.

I never got that impression, and I'm all
"orange woman bad".

Chicken's awkward and aggro at the same time,
with a ton of me!me!me! self-centeredness, but
backstabbing isn't what I'm feeling from her.

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>>24013551
She isnt any of those you schizo

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>>24013695
Envy and Pride are her sins desu but she has good grip on them

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>>24004553
Coworkers can be friendly but never confuse that for friendship.

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>>24013016
IRyS chose that path. Now she has hitched her car to the 5%er and the homostars rrat.

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>>24013119
ideally she would sit at home alone like alcoholics usually do

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>>24008425
You're onto something. Ame is an autistic introvert who barely opens up to her collab partners. Mori is, well, Mori.

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>>24004857
They usually do actually
There are only 3 places where you can make rral friends; school, college, and workplace
People you meet outside or at a pary are just fake friends

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>24004553
Yawn.

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>>24008425
They're the only ones Gura has gotten close to. Ina is actually mostly ok with Kiara and Mori but she has collab autism and barely streams nowadays.

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>>24005595
I miss moonman

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>>24013481
She's going to get Mumei shitfaced and she'll vomit into Mori's lap, giving the reaper her first orgasm

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>>24005595
god this is so fucking good wtf

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>>24005595
wtfffff how does a tts have better flow and lyric structure than pro, maybe it's just me nostalgic for 8bar days

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Council is pretty much fractured because of the multiple breaks between the members: mostly Sana and Kronii.

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>>24016003
It's not as bad for Kronii, plus other people will put in the work to stay close to her because it's easy to flirt with her for clips + she gets numbers. Sana is completely fucked though.

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>>24005595
Nice house mouse rap you got there... lousy.

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>Gura/Mori
They are literally the best friends on Hololive, watch streams.

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I have never had a friendship longer than two years, not weird

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>>24005286
Can you blame her though? Kiara is a tease, she was always fltirting with Calli, but when they were at the Onsen and it came time to walk the wak, she chickend out.

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>>24018190
give up, deadcuck. Council mogged whori of only myth member who still cared to talk to her. Mumei or Fauna can snap fingers and Gura would join them for guerrilla collab, because those are legit fun for her unlike play-house WITH FRIENDS.

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>>24004553
All friendships decay over time. Once you graduate from college you suddenly stop making new friends and your old friends slowly drop away one by one until you are a grumpy old person with back pain and coming to terms with the fact that you will die alone.

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>>24018347
Gura has not recorded a son with any council, and she has recorded two with Calli

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>>24004553
I cant wait for my doses of inamori

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you are really stupid if you think they always have to get together to show that their friendship continues, they all have plans they want to do on their own let them do collaborations when they feel like it.

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I'm surprised that takotori is still going strong. Seems like kiara is the only one that will collab with ina 1 on 1 without a year gap. Is she the only one that likes her?

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>>24004553
>Mori exists
Mori's trashy drunk / junkie / whore behavior is likely dividing them behind the scenes. Kiara, as a former idol, was trained to be much more ladylike and conservative in her behavior. Mori also gets preferential treatment due to living in Japan. But, "remember the time when mori did x and vt threw a fit"? You could fill in a lot of things for x and many of the holos would probably agree. Two examples: she nonchalantly leaked 3D announcement, and lied about listening to Kiara's songs.
>Gura's political tendencies
Gura seems like the most conservative of the branch. Combined with her dominating all of EN and even most of JP, the rest of EN can't take out their frustrations over her views by bullying her as the branch punching bag. If she wasn't so conservative, they would gush over her MUCH more, right now it's more like they admire her and tolerate her.
>AmeSame
Most likely one of them accidentally said something true in their offscreen chats that they used to have so many of in the beginning, according to them. But it was also highly critical, either of each other or one of the other girls. And they haven't completely recovered from it yet. Otherwise I don't really see what could have caused them to grow apart so much.
>Ina
The most likely one, after Mori and Gura, to feel alienated. Is an artist and character designer but doesn't want to be seen as tentacle-woman so she doesn't wear them. Instead, she wants to be ghost-dog-pudding woman, see tako. Koreans tend to be very opinionated and critical, but I'm not sure if Ina is. So I'll say something maybe happened off stream during their chats and that caused the other members to see her differently so they started becoming distant during streams.
>In general
Mori and Gura, ironically the top 2 ENs, are likely also the biggest causes of division, not even considering numbers. Mori and Kiara are literally opposites and stand for everything the other hates, in terms of demeanor, though they do agree on some world views. Mori was obviously disgusted by Kiara from the start, but Kiara as an idol was too nice, but maybe now she's starting to accept that she dislikes Mori. If Gura is really conservative then she also stands for many things opposed to the rest. If there's any side-choosing at all, their relationships are bound to deteriorate, as they have, and it's impossible for them not to choose sides and take things personally, as they're semi-famous.

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>>24019409
meds

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>>24013481
Mumei and Mori are arriving on the same day and Mori is staying one day longer than Mumei. Fucking sucks. Kiara will get zero alone time with Mumei.

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>>24013016
No, I love Kiara for being distant with Mori. Irys can gradually become the whore she always was for all I care. Maybe she got a goblin avatar for a reason.

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>>24014602
Coworkers are almost never real friends, they're people you're forced to like and hang out with.

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>>24019409
Holy fucking rrat

MEDS NOW

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>>24018456
>you suddenly stop making new friends
That's only true if you're boring or poor.

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>>24018629
that's business.
i think anon was talking about pleasure

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>>24020208
If you are an anti-social jerk maybe. I've been through 3 jobs in my live, made great friends, and some of my closest friends were co workers.
I lost most of my friendships when I went to college, and even in college barely made fiends there.

Struggling together is what usually triggers friendships. And the girls struggled a lot in the begging since management just told them "hey go stream and make money, but remember you have holo shackles and can't do 90% of what streamers usually do. Oh and we won't do shit to help you most of the time."

They each have their own lives and irl friends, but you can also see that despite that they overall really like and respect each other. But /vt/ thinks that if vtubers don't reply to every single tweet and show up in every single streams chat thay hate eachother.

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>>24019980
jesus christ that fucking sucks. mumei is going to spend the entire time third wheeling while mori tries to get kiara to revive takamori like an abusive boyfriend crying outside his ex's house.

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>>24020759
based take

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>>24019980
>ruins your bird kino
Youve gotta be kidding me

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>>24021051
Yeah this really pissed me off, and I'm not even that much of a mori hater.
I really wanted them to do the LOTR trilogy, since I've been wanting to re-watch for some time now. But with mori there I'm guessing they're not going to be able to do that.
Expect Shrek trilogy watch along fellow KFP.

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>>24020759
So you're saying that of your coworker "friends", none of them are were strong enough to continue very long after you changed jobs? You say you made few friends in college but you're some social wonderkid who knows all about where the real friendships are made. Then you have the nerve to call me anti-social on 4chan.
>they overall really like and respect each other
Maybe if you have fridge IQ.

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>>24019409
>one of them accidentally said something true in their offscreen chats
not the most unrealistic rrat considering that gura leaked ame's name in a minecraft stream, and somehow cover decided to keep it on the archive

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>>24018629
You know damn well Gura didnt go to Mori asking to make a song with her.
Mori just used her for the numbers boost to help her career, as always

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>>24021371
>>32330
we are not lost, anon

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>>24019409
dude what are you even talking about

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>>24019409
>Kiara, as a former idol, was trained to be much more ladylike and conservative in her behavior.
Bullshit like this makes it obvious you're completely biased on the matter.
Kiara rubbed literally everyone the wrong way her first year on the job. Her coworkers, her viewers, the lolcows, whoever. She was a delicate, insecure faggot who never stopped bitching about her numbers.
Literally the ONLY thing that made her more bearable is Council's debut. Because it immediately put her in the 50th percentile of successful HoloEN chuubas by numbers. The transformation from high maintenance desperation to "relaxed and cool" senpai saved her career.

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>>24021777

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>>24021777
>you're completely biased on the matter.
>Kiara rubbed literally everyone the wrong way
Oh, I'm the biased one? Carry on, dumbass.

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>>24021920
Point out what I'm wrong on.
I left out some choice details, like the very real and concerted effort by chickenfags to "push" Kiara after Calli fell out of /vt/trannies' good graces. But that's ancillary to the discussion.

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>>24019409
>Koreans tend to be very opinionated and critical, but I'm not sure if Ina is.
>guys that get their ups from watching anime girls play games
Who knows? It“s a mystery.

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>>24021777
it is true that she's much more stable and happy now that there are people in EN below her numerically but the rest of this is mostly fantasy

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>>24004553
Well, trying to be objective. Why did you think that Hololive EN would ever be close knit? Cover's whole take on their content producers does not foster kinship well for westerners. Also in contrast to Hololive JP, EN is scattered all across the globe and as such have far different mentalities. Friendship is far harder to foster and maintain if all you know is the professional side of your peers and do not share their views.

If Cover wanted their workers to be close, then they should've focused in on hiring livers from a particular region.

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>>24022131
>livers
shut up. Shut the fuck up

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>>24020759
I know it's obvious, but I feel the need to point it out.
You don't relate to people as well online as in person. It's why the internet is a shithole of constant spiteful bickering.
There's no reason Myth would've been particularly close to one another early on, beyond expected pleasantries. They were VERY different girls who didn't really know each other.

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>>24022131
If they were focused on hiring good livers, Mori wouldn't have made it past the first interview.

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>>24019409
>Gura's political tendencies
she'd be a complete libtard if she wasn't a pedophile, sorry anon. Ame and Mori are the chuds of the branch.

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>>24022772
>Mori is a chud
dyrbi?
Not sure about Ame's political leanings. If Gura is so liberal why did she almost say the yab word in her GTA stream?

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>>24008689
ESL schizo

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>>24022772
>Ame and Mori are the chuds of the branch.
Amelia voted for Gary Johnson and Calli literally just pissed off a bunch of SJWs when she released her song with Suisei.

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>>24022880
>Gura
because she's a southerner at heart. beyond that she's humored nonbinary shit in that indie game where she perved on the deer furry, and very few women stay conservative when they're that gay.
>Mori
bitches about cancel culture and political correctness, loves rap but made sure to move to a country where she'd never see a black person (and chuds moving to Japan is a well documented thing), very clearly wanted to say nigger when she was talking about that movie with Gura. And it would go a long way towards explaining why girls like Kronii and Kiara stay away from her.

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>>24023042
>Calli literally just pissed off a bunch of SJWs when she released her song with Suisei.
QRD?

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>>24023221
To mori's credit, there is a big rap scene in Japan. It's all shit, but it's big.

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>>24005020
>>24005130
Mori treated Kiara like shit, and now after her yabpalooza and realizing she was her only true friend wants to get back
This has written abusive relationship all over it, thank god Kiara is keeping her far away

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>>24007144
>legal rectification
roundabout way of saying rape correction

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>>24008689
Aight, I'm gonna need you to learn some english and try again in 3 working days from today

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>>24004553
>Gura/Mori
These two will perform「Q」LIVE someday.

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You fags post about Mori wanting to reconnect with Kiara but without any source

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>>24008689
Please write in tagalog and translate it to english with DeepL

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>>24024833
Watch streams

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>>24024833
I got you: ______________________________________________________watch_streams_faggot______________________________________________________

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>>24024833
Members’ only HoloFes day 2 watchalong. “I just got so busy and caught up in my own shit and I just forgot to for too long and I don’t know…” Chat told her to DM Kiara on Discord and she said she’d do it after the stream. Next stream chat asked if she did and she confirmed she messaged Kiara and that Kiara had not responded (as of that moment in that stream)

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Myth x Council parings usually seem more genuine to me. Gura in particular really seems to get along with all of them she has been with.
/vt/ has irrational council hate though so whatever.

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>>24013695
She's definitely hella jealous. She won't gossip or try to do you wrong but she ghosts.

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>>24013551
>Chicken's awkward and aggro at the same time, with a ton of me!me!me! self-centeredness
She comes off like that because her brain thinks in german (a much more direct language) and she translates it to english

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>>24025037
>she confirmed she messaged Kiara and that Kiara had not responded
Just mentioning this is bad behavior. If you don't get why, you're probably autistic.

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>>24004553
Cuz they are coworkers not friends, if you have ever being in a work environment you would know this already

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Kiara in the outro is pure sex

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>>24025905
I'm glad kiara is still keeping her distance. we'll see how things go after calli's self invited vacation ends

[Anonymous No.]

They don't live close to each other like the JPs who meet up outside of work. Occasionally chatting on Discord isn't the same.

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>>24028844
They're going to reconnect by spitroasting Mumei

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>>24012882
Are you conveniently ignoring gen 1, 2 and 4?

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>doomposting, gossip, outright lies and over analyzing interactions

Vt sisters meme is true

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>>24037119
IT ALWAYS WAS
I HAVE LEARNED THINGS ABOUT CERTAIN CHOOBAS THAT I SHOULD NOT KNOW

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>>24005286
>saying she listened to her king cover and that it was very good (she didn't because it was a rickroll)
kek

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>>24008689
wtf.
I know all these words but they don't make any sense.
What a weird feeling.

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>>24019980
I can't believe she is ruining Holotori.
Holy shit I hate Mori.

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>>24004553
Gura was the only one who wanted to be friends.

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>>24005020
Exist

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>>24037809
you're not the only one

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>>24012769
I got whiplash from this post.

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>>24025689
Kiara does not think in German, you can tell based on her language. It's subtle and if your German isn't native-level, you can't really hear it. She doesn't use German-like phrasings all the time, but only occasionally. It's clear she thinks in english and is only occasionally struggling to remember how to say things.

Her cultural upbringing is definitely extremely un-American, though.

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>>24004553
Ina gets along with everyone. But her thing is this dismissive veil of niceness to keep people at bay.

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>>24045385
she said this week she has had weeks where she speaks no German at all

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>>24029035
calli would ruin that somehow

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>>24047162
two pump chump

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>>24021777
Trips of Truth. This anon gets it.

If you liked Kiara before you aren't in a position to be able to correctly judge it. The change in Kiara's character after Council's debut is unreal. She's so much more tolerable now, that's she's effectively swapped placed with Mori entirely.

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>>24021777
>Kiara, as a former idol, was trained to be much more ladylike and conservative in her behavior.
The only vtuber I've seen half naked.

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>>24005702
You know that collabs aren't only a one way street, right? Gura didn't get to host every collab and take Ame's sheckles away, low-t mate.

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>>24037809
man 6 months ago people wouldve bitched about Mumei ruining the Takamori off-collab. how times change

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>>24007056
It’s been obvious she doesn’t care about hololive or her fans in the community, just a whore trying to push her career, using gura as a stepping stool.

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>>24036435
>1, 2
Barely gens, unlike gens from 3 onwards, they only learned who was who on their debut days, with no bonding time beforehand
>4
They were fine until Coco left and then they fell apart, as she was doing most of the work to keep them together

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>>24029035
She can watch in the corner.
The fanbase reflects the oshi, so she must be a cuck herself.

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>EVERYONE HATED KIARA
No just you and the discord faggots.

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>>24004553
I want to fit in with everyone else in this thread. Pink woman bad.

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>>24018629
>Gura has not recorded a son
Yeah me

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>>24023250
She posted an image with a wigger caption about the hood, some people were offended by the appropriation, but most just laughed at her wigger behavior

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>>24019409
Ame is the most conservative of the branch, she has talked about owning a gun, and seems to be supportive of some libertarian ideologies.

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>>24012769
i miss when matt and pat were super best friends
now they super not friends

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>>24019409

I think Gura just seems "conservative" because she doesn't give a shit about politics or activism and doesn't feel the need to be self-righteous.

She's more central/neutral. It's just that is viewed as pretty conservative by the standards of a lot of terminally online weirdos these days.

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>>24004790
>Falling for clipper propaganda
There's a reason there's a 20 second clip of UNITY in a 3+ hour stream you fucking clip watching retard

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>>24004960
Probably because IRyS is actually happy in life and skirts Mori's drama and "Friend" Group
Seems like Bae is following suit which really only leaves Mumei

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schizo crap aside, it really does feel like gura gets along with council better than her own gen most of the time

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>>24052359
>IRyS is actually happy in life
At least try to watch streams

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>>24004553
>Why friendships between every human being don't last forever?

Would be a better question

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>>24052568
council's meme knowledge is better than myth's so not surprising.

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>>24052568
they understand her jokes and references so it's not surprising

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>>24019409
>>24021777
schizoid fight

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>>24021371
If ture, Ame should graduate and stays away from Cover

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>>24052359
>Bae is following suit
she's not though, she dropped in on Mori just yesterday, and she's still doing the sisters thing with her. its not like the chadcast is getting dropped.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do you always have the personality of gossiping teenaged girls?

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Takotori is still alive and seems like a genuinely good friendship.
TakoMori is also pretty fine.
AmeSame isn't something that happens as often but they still have a nice chemistry going when they're doing stuff in group collabs.
Takamori is thankfully gone. Mori is still kinda awkward but I'd rather have something chill like the impromptu Jump King call in where they shoot the shit about school days instead of what we got 90% of streams post Kiara leaving Japan
Iname was never real
Rainforrest was also never real
Sametori felt like it had potential after outlast but I feel like their schedules don't line up well enough. We're never getting that promised stream.
IDC about bonebros. It was fun at first but it's obvious Gura's humor works better with council.
Ina and gura feel like they had even less collabs than iname.

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>>24005973
Black hands did not type this post.

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>>24004553
They have to deal with the restrictions imposed upon them by the company. Meanwhile they are seeing indies and people in less restrictive companies having much more creative freedom, while they have to cope with doing a super sanitized form of content, while even having strict limits of who they can collab with, and which games they can play. So they are prone to get frustrated and depressed at work, and the rest of the group ends up feeling more like co-workers, rather than friends.

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>>24005595
>using nujabes beats for a shitty tts vtuber disstrack
kill yourself

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>They constantly make references to their private Discord server conversations

All we see is when they publicly interact

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>>24037119
They are obsessed about a dead ship between two girls, one of which is confirmed super straight. They cannot even consider that it was more of a friendship that grew weaker once they weren't living in the same country.

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>Irys is obviously into dark humor given her liberal use of the N-Word
>Ina apologized for a Vei-tier joke mocking chuuba fans
>Ame allegedly used to be friends with girls that are now in VShojo
>Gura's previous job was being a very edgy memester
>Mori

Kiara is the only one who seems to be into idol culture, and yet she is probably frustrated about not being a real idol. Meanwhile Mori and Gura are in a Coco-like situation in which they are clearly trying to find ways to push the envelope, but they also know there are lines they cannot cross.

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>>24057718
>Mori and Gura
>trying to find ways to push the envelope
Mori just spergs out over the same 3 games and makes the same music she always did except with skeleton puns, Gura has fully leaned into being pedobait while she takes multiple days off at a time to do jenkem.

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>>24020759
shit take

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They are all too awkward to shitpost on discord

And we all know shitposting is the basis upon which all friendships are built on

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>>24018456
Based and blackpilled

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>>24005595
What the fuck some of those bars were actually heat, super good wordplay and lyricism in there

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>>24004553
Because they are co-workers, not friends.

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>>24057718
>Push the envelope
What? Those are the two vtubers who innovate the least. Mori hasn’t changed in 5 years and Gura has been making the same jokes and doing the same streams since her debut.

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>>24058437
Why don't schizo get this? Do neets actually think people hang out after work?

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>>24058764
>he doesn't get invited to go out for drinks and bitch about the boss

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I just think it's kinda sad what happened to Mori. A shame, but you reap what you sow.

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>>24058890
That 'bully' song was about this exact thing happening a lot in the past too.

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>>24013481
Mumei won't vibe with either of them and return to her rightful place in SNOT SNOT is the best thing to happen in EN since forever and I want them all to live together (Ina can come too)

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>>24058764
Hololive is supposed to be an "idol company" right? They could at least pretend to like each other. Pretend to like each other=teetee=ships=more money for them

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>>24058890
What now?

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>>24057823
Truth poster

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>>24057823
Gura's never not been pedobait, even prior to debut, and given the vast precedent on the JP side of loli/shota enjoyers I doubt she's really trying to push any "envelope" considering how cautious she is about everything else

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All things considered I hope Kiara, Mumei and Mori at least try and have a good time. While I wish Mori and Mumei would show up on different days (so Kiara can get individual time with them both) it is what it is. I just hope Mori keeps her cringe in check and Mumei is able to relax.

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>>24059450
Nothing, I'm just making a blanket statement. She only has herself to blame with her retarded defensive habits, severe drinking problems and the whole 5% thing.

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>>24004553
>cant these women
>just be friends
>women
>friends
kek do you see the problem?

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>>24058098
Mumei opened up to SNOT about sharing some "dark" memes because she has perceived SNOT to have reached that point in their friendship

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>>24059648
Niji EN exists

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>>24013016
Irys can become Mori’s sidekick and seethe behind the scenes because her music will never get pushed the same.

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>>24059603
What are the odds Mori ghosts Kiara again after the trip?

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>>24059764
10 bucks says yes

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>>24059603
I think so too. Mumei has a power to disarm people from their LARPs because she's cute. Ame bought this girl ice cream because she was stressed about stuff and Ame said she's cute multiple times unprompted

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>>24059764
Wouldn't surprise me, everyone /here/ knows Kiara is done with Calli, so only time will what will happen once all is said and done.

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>>24059764
It's more like the other way round. I feel like Kiara's going to be seething the entire time the three of them are offstream and Call will finally realise there's no salvaging one of the best things that happened to her

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>>24059910
This

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>>24004553
>Meaningless shipping names where fans project
>"Friendships"
>continued actual friendship/colleague behaviour eventually breaks the projection
>"Omg the friendship is dead"

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Sometimes the autists on this board makes me reckon about how I guage friendship. According to them, close friends have to
>talk with you daily
>have very high chemistry with you
>show the world how much of close friends they are to you
For me, it's just trust. Everything else doesn't matter that much.

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>>24057470
using nujabes beats for shitty tts tracks is 4chan culture

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>>24004553
>international chuubas that very rarely meet irl
>friendships deteriorate
>jp chuubas sleeping over frequently and moving in together
>friendships mostly thrive
Gee, I fucking wonder why

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>>24059261
Wtf is snot
t.not a stream watcher

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>>24061313
Shark nature owl time

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>>24061334
So just the offcollab group sans Ina? What's the issue with SNOOT (because of Ina's first name, 一)

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>>24061603
they came up with it during a stream with just the 4 of them then started talking about boogers and eating skin

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>>24061661
they just like me fr fr no cap

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>>24004790
Why do you think clipwatcher is a pejorative, every time a clipperfag shows something that isn't just forced positivity, they get brigaded by reddit and other clippers, look at what happened to kami clips

You aren't allowed to make clips of actual yabai

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>>24061661
definitely sounds like something Gura and Mumei would connect with

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>>24061603
And Ame

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>>24005020
Mori realized she treated kiara like a corporate coworker instead of the friend that kiara actually wanted and regrets it

Unfortunately for mori, its too late, kiara became incredibly jaded after a decade of fake friends just trying to use her to boost their own career, she now only sees mori as someone just looking out for themselves
Its a reoccurring thing with kiara sadly, pekora completely shot her down

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>>24059603
its really fucking rude of Mori to just decide to overlap her trip with Mumei's, as if Mumei and Kiara didnt already make 1 on 1 plans which they will now have to adapt to fit Mori in
Kinda shitty and autistic but hey, thats on brand for Mori i guess

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>>24005130
Mori is retarded 90% of the time with moments of clarity spattered around.
She felt guilty for not being a real friend to someone who opened up to her about all of her past issues.

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>>24062187
Her trip with Moom and Kiara already decided? I was thinking it's only a future plan.

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>>24013016
Kiara has been nonstop getting better and better ever since they split
Kiara is the pride of EN.

Mori deserves everything she gets, she is not an idol, she is a bad singer, a bad friend, a bad girlfriend, and a bad woman.

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>>24061955
lmao kami is an absolute cunt of the highest order
you have no clue what you're talking about

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>>24062125
I haven't kept up, but what's the lore with kiara and pekora then

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>>24021777
I agree with this, but i don't think it's just about council, it was a lot of things.
Dropping takamori, starting holotori, finally performing at holofes and getting her 3d model

Like some of the others have said, her transformation has been amazing

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>>24048694
Most people didn't like kiara for a lot of different reasons in the beginning, but since then, she has grown so much that she has a completely different energy about it

KFP have never noticed it because they are retarded, but the eggs did.
Kiara is Idol of EN.

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>>24062425
He was an example, there were tons of other clippers that got brigaded by reddit and twitter until they just stopped making videos

They rationalize that "you're just making pointless drama for the girls"
This results in a forced positivity echo chamber where the fanbase that subsists off of clips never really know the different facets of the girl they watch

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>>24019409
>>Ina
>The most likely one, after Mori and Gura, to feel alienated. Is an artist and character designer but doesn't want to be seen as tentacle-woman so she doesn't wear them. Instead, she wants to be ghost-dog-pudding woman, see tako. Koreans tend to be very opinionated and critical, but I'm not sure if Ina is. So I'll say something maybe happened off stream during their chats and that caused the other members to see her differently so they started becoming distant during streams.
You don't want Ina at all. She probably realized how degenerate her genmates are and started to close herself off more

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>>24062602
I hated her in the beginning but I do like her now, unfortunately I can’t stand that voice and yeah it’s still grating regardless of KFP claiming it’s gotten better. But I can’t stand a lot of their voices, Ame and Ina’ make me close the stream when they start whining, Mumei has an annoying whine and yawn, Bae when she goes Ollie-lite and Sana just sounds like she has a mouthful of something constantly and I close the stream immediately when any of them start using a voice changer idk why but it triggers some deep ragey autism in me.

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You can't expect complete unity when you you have people like Ame and especially Mori in the mix. Ames just too anti social in stuck in her own experiments to even think about other people, so she'll never reach out to anyone when she knows she can do it herself.
Mori on the other hand is just her own social trainwreck. She has no desire to open up to anyone despite all the literal demons in her, and in the end hololive is just a buisness venture to her. Hell the music label deal, while its an achievement for cover in the long run, is now gonna seperate her even more since other members now have to avoid attempting to sing her music of get copyright struck.

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>>24013016
Mori ruined Irys for me

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>>24059690
Yes, and?

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>>24062714
he was a very bad "example" to go with

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>>24052568
Myth:
>Gura tells a joke
>Ina doesn't get it
>Ame has no sense of humor
>Mori is not listening
>Kiara has 0% grasp of meme culture
>Myth remains silent
Council:
>Gura tells a joke
>Council gets it, they laugh with back and fort banter
>Gura visibly excited someone got her joke/reference

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>>24063442
Kiara does technically have a grasp on meme culture. It's just a decade out of date.

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>>24063442
hate to admit it but damn that myth one is on point, i really just want them to go along but for some fucking reason they are all awkward to each other, atleast try to entertain one another man it hurts to watch someone make a joke and not a single one aknowledge it

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>>24063442
She really does mesh well with them, it’s still weird she hasnt collared with irys since their personalities aren’t too different and they stream at similar hours

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>>24063442
I’m not a fan of ame but she does have a sense of humor, it’s just catered towards the younger zoomers which consists of noises and rage

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>>24063442
SNOT is always a good time. I had fun watching them with sana today even if she was trying too hard to say something funny

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>>24063442
more like Ame avoids laughing at it

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>>24063671
You say that but then you put her with an actual zoomer (Ollie) and she no-sells Ollie's jokes so hard she creates palpable tension.

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>>24063442
>Gura is an internet addicted zoomer
>council is internet addicted zoomers
Whoa

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I will never understand unity fags, I want people to have character and not just view this as a political arrangement to pretend to be friends. I want the real friendships to flourish and as a result I'm happy when there's distance to people who are fundamentally oppositional. Does it suck that Mori's stink can't get off Irys or that I avoid Baelz for her associations with Mori and Ollie. Maybe, but they are those people, they belong together.

On the other hand, it's beautiful when Ina and Kiara interact and though I think Ame will hurt her someday, she and Kiara seem good for now. Gura is good with Council. That EN off-collab was perfect and probably the last good one.

As far as unity goes, I only think it's a pity when combos go unpursued, it took over half a year for multiple EN's to do one-on-one collabs and plenty still haven't really. That just makes it seem like they aren't even willing to try seeing if they are compatible. That recent fashion week foursome would have been a pretty forced collab a month ago.

But JP has many top-tier members who fucking hate each other guts and it's perfectly fine. You can like both sides of a rift like that because JP's generally aren't divisive in and of themselves, they just have real personalities that fit better with different people and sometimes bad things happen. Just because I love Watame and her friendship with Botan doesn't mean I can't love Kanata and her friendship with Coco or Suisei and her friendship with Miko or Pekora and her relationship with Pekomama.

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>>24063804
I think Ame is done throwing away her partners, Gura was one thing but rbc really upped the water works and guilt tripping and that had to leave an impression
>source I’m in their discord

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[Anonymous No.]

>>24063739
calli and watson sandbagging other people's jokes is something I'll never understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>24064394
There are no Chinese is /vt/-sing se

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>>24025975
this based /thread etc

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>>24062836
Thank God fauna exists.
>I don't mind the chicken's voice though

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>>24063610
They're pretty different and IRyS wouldn't understand anything that Gura is talking about