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What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

Pastebin Guides and Resources:

General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV
Twitter Networking: https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc
"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt
Social media branding: https://pastebin.com/jVERSLqG
Take with a grain of salt Parasocial Guide: https://pastebin.com/zmpCResg
Google Doc of Assets and Resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml
Google Doc for /asp/ Collabs and Projects: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SFYyC7bi0zIP55eioXEq7EibFaf1Y4cttucnlP0WA9s/edit#heading=h.q01v7kovxhs

Hololive Auditions have opened up to males
https://en.hololive.tv/audition

Wactor Auditions have opened up for males
http://wactor.tech/news/pre-entry-boys-vtuber-audition/

Stay grounded, stay hopeful

>> No.24597874

Previous thread: >>24562756
Fuck I forgot.

>> No.24598015
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discord.gg/JFc5JA7p
discord.gg/JFc5JA7p
discord.gg/JFc5JA7p
discod.gg/JFc5JA7p

Come and join....

>> No.24598261

Which /asp/ie needs saving the most?

>> No.24598299

>>24598261
azu and alto

>> No.24598633
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>>24598015
i didnt intented to join at all i just wanted to know the discord name

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>>24595463
>>24595603
>>24595614
Heh, thanks Anon. That got a chuckle out of me.
>>24595695
I'm not terminal and honestly only been back to boards since like a year ago, when I started reading /asp/ threads. Also nor murrican, I'm Bunlander.
My menhera aside I should go to bed, but not leaving without reiterating my supporst for you, /asp/ies. Forget debuts: just start making content, videos or streams, but do it. Do your Twatter memes, talk to people and be your own PR person. Finally, before you worry about "making it" first think about it: what is it in the first place? What is it FOR YOU? You may discover you're not made for the numbers race and instead are happy with a small but loyal fanbase, so don't run and burn yourselves out before you discover what you really want to do.
Save your debut for something really big and special, like a new model or goal.

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>>24595294
>>24595232
I mean, you can't really pretend this 'skinwalking' was actually something as fatalistic as a 4D chess gay-op impersonation, executed with perfect timing and luck so that it's even loosely confirmed by the primary source.
You don't literally think I'm X VTuber (Ains) when I'm impersonating them on Y (ASP) general, do you? Stupid.

This is an anonymous site and everyone can skinwalk as anyone, and nobody can actually ID any anon as a specific someone in normal circumstances.
When you're doing something like confirming yourself as being present across a period of time and at one particular time and place to dismiss mere rumours of your presence, then you've reached peak negative value, (a poor trade), and peak lolcow behaviour right there.

>24595884
>oh no he typed a paragraph
Nigger, I'm Joshua Connor Moon, owner and proprietor of Kiwifarms.net and if I had a dollar for everytime I cared about the opinion of some phonefaggot I wouldn't have any money.
Phonefags are ruining the quality of the entire site, and you see it in the stupidity of looking at 150-200 words or less and going muh paragraph.
If you want to not see paragraphs then go to a site that doesn't cater towards posts, live chats like on Discord, or live chat/ hybrid (live reply) solutions like IRC chats. If you want a site that isn't filled with retards because it has minimum requirements that filter dipshits like you then you can go to my site.

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>>24599382
I'm actually Ina and I support all the new /asp/ies.

>> No.24599565

>>24599382
He's prententious enough that I actually believe he could be Null.

>> No.24599643

>>24599565
That was seriously exactly what I was thinking.
He's at least probably one of the more enthusiastic Pippa fans on this board.

>> No.24601049

>actual cheapskate irl
>found a premade model of a slave boy with tattered clothes
>can unironically talk about how I save my money the cheapest way possible
T-this is it bros

>> No.24601125

>>24601049
Godspeed, slave anon.

>> No.24602043

>>24598299
qrd?

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24602365

Sheep model finished! She's been uploaded to VRChat with custom gesture expressions and Physbones. Still need to play around with VSeeFace later on since I don't own a webcam yet
Thank you to everyone who gave feedback during the process

>> No.24602529

>>24602365
If you plan on using it in VRChat be aware that people have ways they can download it and use it. Otherwise it's insanely cute as expected of the sheep.

>> No.24602690

>>24602365
the sheep is certainly stacked

>> No.24603700

any beat makers here>?

>> No.24603795

>>24603700
I make beatings on my meat.

>> No.24604145

I wanna be a vtuber but I don't wanna be an obnoxious shill. What do I do?

>> No.24604184

>>24604145
Become an adorable shill instead.

>> No.24604214

>>24604184
I'm a man

>> No.24604248

>>24604214
Why should that stop you?

>> No.24604269

>>24604248
How do I become an adorable shill then?

>> No.24604361

>>24604269
Step1: Cute or Hot vtuber model
Step2: Be at least occasionally wholesome on stream
Step3: Pimp out sponsor stuff you actually like once you get far enough along
Step4: Profit

>> No.24605390

Why two?

>> No.24605725

>>24602365
very cute and soft

>> No.24606961

I think I've finalized the build of the new computer I'm getting and I'm so excited. I know nothing about computers so I had to get help but I think it's good! Thanks to any anons who helped me. It seems like it should be powerful enough to handle any streaming needs, gaming, video editing etc.

>> No.24607990

bump

>> No.24608358

>>24599382
this is really funny in a pathetic way, hope you find something better to do with your time

>> No.24609331

go watch me stream :)

>> No.24610214

>>24609331
waow great stream anon

>> No.24613371

>>24599382
But josh. You don't have any money.

>> No.24613590

>>24613371
stop bumping the fucking thread

>> No.24614243

>>24613590
bump

>> No.24619228 [DELETED] 

>>24614243

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>>24597824
Who's the artist of the pic in OP? Second thing I've seen from them so now I'm curious if all their stuff is like this.

>> No.24620161

>>24614243
just go to /asp/cord if you want activity

>> No.24620424

>>24620112
I'm dumb and forgot about sauceNAO
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/541434/
Thanks me for my hard work

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>>24598702
Bunnies truly give the best advice.

>> No.24626136

Bump

>> No.24627054

Who is the most groomable aspie?

>> No.24627057

Why is eraxs not streaming

>> No.24627685

>>24627054
alto. or ain if you have a labcoat and are willing to spit on her

>> No.24629135

Which /asp/ies would make a cute couple?

>> No.24630022

>>24629135
yellowcat and walter white

>> No.24632532

Bump

>> No.24637065

>Drunk Alto
I'M GONNA

>> No.24646836

bump

>> No.24647828

>>24637065
...SAVE
Right?

>> No.24651581

any /asp/ies joining the /vt/ sings going on?

>> No.24661012

bump

>> No.24664136

Bumping so it's nice and ready for people in the other thread can move in when it dies

>> No.24664170

>>24651581
already submitted mine

>> No.24664414

>stream again
>earlier in the day so I can be a tad louder
>bring up game volume just a bit
>turn pc audio all the way down
>grab phone
>speak into mic and wait 10 seconds just to make sure I can still hear myself
>hear my own voice loud and clear
>stream for about an hour
>bad feeling
>watch vod
>can't hear myself at all (again)
>try to listen for a sign for like 20 minutes
>check obs
>I unmuted my mic in the ending screen and muted it in the game screen by accident
At least it was a short one...

>> No.24664452

/asp/ies are cute!

>> No.24664632

>>24664452
I'm still weirded out by kali. I can't tell if it's autism or some other strange bullshit but it was just weird.

>> No.24664647

>>24664414
You know you can record in obs instead of streaming from the getgo right? just record and watch the video to see if the audio is alright.

>> No.24664680

>>24664414
Pain anon. I once had a 2 hour long TCG unboxing stream that was completely muted the entire time.

>> No.24664703

I wonder what alien skin feel like...

>> No.24664771

>>24664632
Kali is weird, I don't talk when he's there.

>> No.24664974

>>24664771
I'm not convinced he won't skin me and wear me as a suit yet. At least his kayfabe of being a robot is working out?

>> No.24665052

>>24664452
I wanna smooch Lullabaa!

>> No.24665219

>>24627054
dog because I like a challenge

>> No.24665469

>>24664680
Did you look at OBS for even half a second to see if your audio levels are alright? How do people go so long being muted?

>> No.24665740

>>24664647
I made like eight recordings to check mic settings, and I could hear myself in all of the, I just managed to mute myself between the waiting screen and game screen.
>>24664680
That sucks man. Did you do another one or just stew in it for a while?

>> No.24666030

>>24604145
if you are an obnoxious shill with a skill, then you are simply selling yourself, so make sure you can shill with your skill. if you dont have a skill then pretend to be gay

>> No.24666063

>>24664452
I know, I know

>> No.24666198

>>24666030
Wait you guys are pretending?

>> No.24666297

>>24664414
make another account to test out live broadcast audio settings. you can fuck with filters live and listen to yourself live and adjust accordingly. dont be lazy and just make another account for testing

>>24664647
record settings are different from live for some reasons and thats a fact from my tests, probably has to do with twitch

>> No.24666448

>>24666198
What a cute and innocent fujo. Real homosexuals don't exist.

>> No.24666470

>>24597824
So lets pretend I, formally a normal person with a normal life and normal internet usage, decided to try vtubing. What do when I get recognised by someone who knew my from my previous life, and realises who I am? Do you just have to plan for it by being relatively honest about your past (eg, not playing a character too dissimilar from real life)?

>> No.24666482

>>24664452
/asp/ies may be cute, but which /asp/ie is the cutest?

>> No.24666590

is it too manipulative or in bad faith to do a scripted, wedding themed asmr?
since june is wedding season, I wanted to do something themed around it. but I'm worried that it may come across as manipulative to do something of that caliber

>> No.24666615

>>24666470
have your IRL friends ever listened to your voice over a voice call? Most people sound really different through their mics, and as long as your voice isn't incredibly unique the chances someone recognizes you is near 0

>> No.24666658

>>24666615
no but over 2 million people have seen my youtube videos and I have like, 13k subs on a non-vtube account.

>> No.24666863

>>24666482
me
I'll also accept mashimyu as an answer

>> No.24666979

>>24666590
Miru...

>> No.24667001

>>24666482
Shitty dog is too cute... needs anal rape correction.

>> No.24667009

>>24666658
Unless you have audience in common with your vtuber content, I don't think people will find you try to match the voices.

>> No.24667141

>>24666590
You're killing me Miru, you're going to make me gosling at this rate. I know that's how you get money as a streamer but it's unhealthy.

>> No.24667339

>>24667009
I dunno. If it was just my own videos id agree but collabs with big youtubers in the past means theres a fair number of people outside my normal audience who know who I am.
I am probs worrying about nothing, but as the same time it is concerning people could find my family, exes, work etc if they looked hard enough

>> No.24667362

>>24667141
is it bad if i have fun making it though?
i just wanna be cute...

>> No.24667430

>>24667362
You get to be cute and get gosling money? I'd say go for it.

>> No.24667561

Starting to think male voice debuffing doesn't exist. Most of these cases are either; the roommate is too fucking boring or using an overly sexualized female avatar or putting on a really bad "tranny" voice or straight up not using a human avatar at all (muppet-tubers and object-tubers). Can anyone prove me wrong? I'm genuinely curious

>> No.24667621

>>24667362
I have a genuine question, I always thought you preferred female attention so do you really enjoy pandering a predominantly male audience?

>> No.24667636

>>24647828
GROOOOOM

>> No.24667777

>>24667621
I'm bi, pretty close to half and half actually.
i just talk about how pretty women are because it feels strange to talk about how hot anime men are to a bunch of men... lol

>> No.24667861

>>24667362
Aww

>> No.24667940

>>24667777
Checking those quads

>> No.24668312

>>24667777
Nah, I get you. I was just gonna point out that with your cute design I would love to see more content dedicated for woman!

>> No.24668346

>>24668312
the asmr script I'm working on right now will be gender neutral ^w^

>> No.24668407

>>24667561
its not so much the voice debuffs you, its much more so that your voice is like 70% of the selling point so if you have a mediocre voice you lost your biggest advantage and appeal. its like being a cosplayer without being attractive, like yeah you can be an amazing seamstress but people wanna see someone hot at the end of the day

>>24667777
finally watched you and i gotta say your mic kinda filters me. theres a cute voice in there but the mic warps it so significantly in the gaming streams

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>>24667777
Trust me as a straight heterosexual man I would love to talk about licking up ice cream off of Roberu's hot abs

>> No.24668461

>>24668407
yeah, I know its an issue.
are there any good affordable mics that sound good for streaming anyone can recommend ?
>>24668408
you sure you're straight...?

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>>24668461
>you sure you're straight...?
As straight as a stick

>> No.24668591

>>24668346
You shouldn't be so hesitant to pandering to the demographic you want! Even if you wanna start slow splitting it half and half is always a good idea...! Unless you're farming goslings in which case its a great financial move.

>> No.24668784

>>24668461
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HkngXwD818I

i just ordered this one cuz mine broke. when he did the test between his $400 one and the cheap one it sounds the same and it comes with a boom arm and it has a touch to mute so i just went for it. maybe audiophiles here got some betters recs

>> No.24668827

I have been naturally singing along to my BGM when I don't know what to talk about. I don't know how to sing at all either. is it a debuff? should I try to talk instead?

>> No.24669014

>>24663534
I did too much singing reps everyday and abandoned everything else kek, I swear I'll finish setting up my channel and stuff this weekend

>> No.24669162

>>24668827
ive noticed that earlier on that ame and gura would hum to their bgm to kill dead air. personally it kinda cringed me out since humming basically indicates "shit i got nothing to say better do something cute". but im autistic like that so maybe normal people enjoy it

>> No.24669653

i give up
>poor
>ESL
>constantly depressed
>not talented
i hope everyone else makes it

>> No.24669817

>>24604145
say "fuck em." Tell yourself that you're BETTER than these people. Psych yourself up, make sure you tell yourself at every turn that you are going to bury all of your competition. You make it your god-given mission to sabotage your competition and raise yourself to the top. That's what I do, at least :)

>> No.24669853

>>24669653
>>constantly depressed
>>not talented
well, thats pretty much all of us, so you're not doing much worse

>> No.24669859

>>24669653
FAKE IT
UNTIL YOU MAKE IT
I (俺わ) BELIEVE IN YOU ANON

>> No.24669963

>>24669653
Are you me, but I'm not constantly depressed so that's an even worse debuff for being a well adjusted person in the vtubing scene

>> No.24670038

pls always post your streams
I'm addicted to /asp/ cuties

>> No.24670166

>>24670038
nuh-uh. I've already been skinwalked without ever having posted here!

>> No.24670242

>>24666470

So, while a mic will mask your voice to some extent it can be found it fairly easily. However it’s not a situation where it’s the sound of your voice that will give it away. The easiest way to not get found out is to go the Clark Kent just wears glasses route. Changing up your speaking style, vernacular, and cadence a bit is what actually will disguise your voice.

>> No.24670731

>>24670166
Ain?

>> No.24670801

>>24670731
Has she really never posted here?
Anyways, it was a very silly and pointless skinwalk, and that's the last I'll say on the subject!

>> No.24670813

>>24670166
yeah, this has rapidly been moving towards becoming one of the most unhinged threads on this board. I shudder for those who are associated with it

>> No.24670862

>>24670801
All of those people being skinwalkers would be an interesting rrat for sure

>> No.24670888

>>24670813
It's been snowballing pretty hard since this year began. Pretty impressive honestly

>> No.24670905

>>24670813
The funniest part is that it's only a handful of schizos shitposting enough for 10.

>> No.24671029

>>24670813
The thread is a bit odd in who it seems to bless and bane. Despite self-posting, I haven't gotten a bad reception yet, even during some of the worse periods of the past fortnight. I've noticed some others with that same boon.

>> No.24671462

>>24671029
azu...

>> No.24671590

>"Hi cutie"
>I'm a schizo

>> No.24672663

>>24671462
Mistaking me for Azu, or pinning a blessing/curse upon him?

>> No.24672710

fresh discord invite, pls

>> No.24672717

>>24672663
NTA but I can actually hear azu saying this in his accent.

>> No.24672739

>>24672710
Were you the dude who literally just left?

>> No.24672746

>>24669653
When I was younger my school asked me to go through speech therapy to correct my thick Jamaican accent. You should try it out.

>> No.24672821

>>24672710
https://discord.gg/NzRdfCrn

>> No.24672829

Seeing that everybody else is constantly depressed just makes me feel better about not being able to set up my stream deck after an hour of listening to a boring tutorial and feeling like an idiot.

Speaking of, I bought a stream deck back in March and it's been through customs hell for the past couple months, but it's here now.

>> No.24672878

>>24672746
>Correcting perfection
Once again, my misanthrope emerges

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>Discord is slow and painfully boring
>When it does pick up, it's just the "big 4" talking to each other with slight interjections from 2views
Convince me to stay or at least point me in a better direction, I've had enough

>> No.24673187

>>24673100
>big 4
who?

>> No.24673228

>>24673187
If you have to ask, you're a newfag therefore fuck off

>> No.24673303

>>24673228
i mean I mostly can't tell if you're referring to people who just talk a lot (yellowcat, alto) or people who are liked a lot (lala, ain)

>> No.24673363

>>24673303
nta but last I checked it was some 2 view hag who won't shut up and yellow cat

>> No.24673364

>>24673100
>thread says people will keep talking in the discord and they still stop streaming
>people use the discord sparingly (they have to sleep too)
>this is boring why arent people on discord all the time

lol

>> No.24673374

>>24672829
You needed an hour long tutorial to tell you how to drag some buttons on to a steam deck and assign them a function with a dropdown menu?

>> No.24673481

I like smart plain girls.

>> No.24673558

After reading Kaiser's menhera in the last thread, I genuinely believe he should quit vtubing. This shit just isn't for you my dude.

>> No.24673566

>>24672746
thanks, I will try.

>> No.24673596

>>24672746
>Jamaican accent
You could be the perfect vtuber, fuck your school

>> No.24673606

>>24673364
I'm not expecting them to be 24/7 entertainment factories but it's that they rarely, if ever, talk about actual vtubing.

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I am going to become an arts and craft vtuber

>> No.24673647

>>24673606
You'll find that if you meet a lot of vtubers and become friends with them, they would not want to talk about vtubing all the time either.

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I saw someone here was interested in OSRS from a few threads ago. I'm gonna be trying to get Guthan's helm tomorrow on my iron at 1pm EDT here https://www.twitch.tv/nasumaturi
Goodnight /asp/ies

>> No.24673719

>>24673100
then go entertain us who lives in oz time anon, be the change you want to be

>> No.24673767

>>24673658
I don't know shit about runescape other that its old but I will check it out if I remember to do so. Sleep well anon.

>> No.24673780

>>24673719
I want to cum onto your horns lullabaa

>> No.24673795

>>24673658
I want to mating press this babi UOOOOOHHH

>> No.24673869

>>24673596
Assuming it really was thick enough you needed speech therapy for it and included the dialect shit a lot of them are borderline unintelligible, some as bad as that video of those irish dudes speaking gibberish. You wouldn't understand a word of it.

>> No.24673976

>>24672746
Was it this bad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBCg72HDj8I
can you understand it?

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>>24673780
at least buy me dinner first anon!

>> No.24674357

>>24674335
You are the slut, you buy ME dinner bitch

>> No.24674390

>>24673976
Yes, my family sounds like that.

>> No.24674404

>>24674357
thats not how prostitution usually works anon

>> No.24674419

>>24674335
Dominos pizza or Carls jr?

>> No.24674497

>>24674404
You really think women have any rights? They exist to get fucked and make me food. They don't deserve to get anything for free from me.

>> No.24674531

>>24674419
i've never eaten carls jr but from what i know it has burgers and i love shitty fast food burgers, so out of that and the god awful pizza i choose it

>> No.24674533

>>24674497
hey buddy i think you got the board

>> No.24674552

>>24674497
Edgey (derogatory)

>> No.24674583

>>24674497
At least one person here get's it

>> No.24674664

>>24674497
i forgot that this was still 4ch after all. thanks for the reminder

>> No.24675169

>>24674497
Isn't there another board for you to jack off on and ERP with another anon (male) that is into this fantasy? The question is which one of you is going to play the bitch and which one is the incel?

>> No.24675344

>>24673558
I fear one day waking up and checking his twitter and seeing he deleted it and also his twitch and never hearing from him again.
I wish I could change his brain to where he finds streaming to be therapeutic like some other streamers.

>> No.24675451

>>24675344
i shall save him

>> No.24675698

>>24673606
Think about it this way. You go to a networking event after work at a bar. Are you going to spend all your time talking to people in your field about the technical and autistic parts of your day or are you going to try and strike up a more meaningful conversation unrelated to work.

>> No.24675794

>>24675698
nta but that's a good way to put it

>> No.24676089

>>24675451
I see a lot of talk about saving AKA but barely anyone tunes into their streams

>> No.24676206

>>24673606
Most Vtubers aren't talking about Vtubing in private. Typically when you make friends around a hobby(very strange concept, I know), you aren't non-stop talking about that hobby. You don't truly believe people are sitting around ANY discord and just talking about nothing but Vtubing and content ideas, right? Most vtubers are literally just people in private and talk about pretty normal things.

>> No.24676228

>>24676089
because its a joke

>> No.24676251

>>24676089
Because they don't care. They just say it to say something.

>> No.24676580

Mashi your collab is in 12 hours, but you’re going to have to be online a bit before. Is everything going to be OKAY? Do you have the pre-stream checklist ready?

>> No.24676651

Can chuubas tell if I make an alt account to menhera on so I don't ruin my pristine image of a normal non-menhera person on my main account?

>> No.24676687

>>24676089
Honestly, they mostly need to save themselves
>Azu
Needs to get better at filling dead air
>Kaiser
Needs to stop being menhera
>Alto
He's the only one i can't really see improving, he should just stop

>> No.24676785

>>24676687
>>Alto
>He's the only one i can't really see improving, he should just stop
I'm here every day but I've never heard of Alto before. I guess he really should just stop.

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>>24676687
i need to stop being sad, its that easy.

>> No.24676844

>>24676809
Rooting for you Kaiser.

>> No.24676902

>>24676809
you shall be saved, we need to play more league, send ya a request

>> No.24677063
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Daily reminder that he should go to therapy!

>> No.24677520
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>>24674497

>> No.24677622

any aspy want to sit on my face?

>> No.24677770
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>>24677622
Hey anon

>> No.24677809

>>24677622
Sorry, someone already offered to eat my whole booty. You'll have to find someone else.

>> No.24677959

>>24677622
If it ain't lullabaa's ass cheeks hot dogging my face while I hug her cute (secretly hidden) sheep tail, I don't want it. Settle for the best, out with the rest.

>> No.24678550

>>24676687
>He's the only one i can't really see improving
He's a literal retard

>> No.24678719

>>24678550
>He's a literal retard
Every aspie is retarded

>> No.24678818
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24678818

...

>> No.24678880

>>24678818
bouldy is the cutest /asp/ie

>> No.24679127

>>24676902
You are the first person i see recommending league as a way to save someone. I think I'd have better chances doing LSD to get enlightened than continuing to "smurf in pisslow".

>> No.24679204

>>24679127
we can something else than league anon

>> No.24679278

>>24677622
Need big babi butt on my face. (not azu)

>> No.24679366

https://www.twitch.tv/mirukumaa

She's streaming FFX!!

>> No.24679374

>>24679127
He doesn't want to save him, he wants him to kill himself (which might happen even without league)

>> No.24679401

>>24679366
Miru is very insistent on the JRPG debuff.

>> No.24679403

>>24679366
eww a random image with a voice

>> No.24679685

>>24676809
You should definitely consider this
>>24677063
There's no shame in trying out. Even if it doesn't work out, you can just stop and go back to menhera all day.

>> No.24680032

>>24673374
I'm trying to use it as a MIDI keyboard, specifically.
Setting up for normal streaming isn't that hard, but apparently I've started off trying to do a double gainer before learning how to walk.

>> No.24680387

is tarot anon in the discord?

>> No.24680408

>>24680387
Nope.

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>>24676580
I'll be ok anon! please don't worry! I'll see you there!

>> No.24680505

>>24679401
>Carve out a niche for yourself! You won't succeed on twitch unless you have a gaming niche, don't play common games!
>lol she's debugging by playing jrpgs lol
Pick one for fucks sake

>> No.24680592

>>24680505
We wouldn't all be here if we actually had a clue about what we were doing

>> No.24680749

>>24680505
not the anon but you gotta admit jrpgs are not good streaming games.

>> No.24680762

>>24680505
Not to mention others told me to keep doing JRPGs in the end these sort of replies just come from whatever the individual person would want to see, but they themselves probably don't even watch most of the time.

I am of the opinion you should stream whatever makes you able to perform the best as a streamer which is most likely the stuff one enjoys the most. (but isn't guaranteed) Some people might really get going with one type of content while someone else just gets lost. Lastly we can't change the viewers preferences so some people just won't watch you doing certain things and that's fine too.

>> No.24680815

>>24680505
JRPGs are a MASSIVE debuff genre. If you don't know this then you simply do not watch vtubers and don't know what you're talking about. Every time Pekora streamed Xenoblade her numbers would get cut in half. Fucking Pekora.

And every stream you get further into this 80+ hour game less people are willing to watch because they've missed parts of it. So there is further viewer dropoff of the niche viewerbase for JRPGs.

>> No.24680883

>>24680815
Xenoblade is a boring game

>> No.24681587
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>>24680815
I'll be outlining my experiences with it, but take it with a grain of salt because my anecdotal evidence has no value due to being a 2view.

I finished FF8 recently on stream it took me about 35 hours on stream to beat, i skipped the optional content because it requires some grinding out and probably takes like 3-5 hours on top and i know a lot of JRPGs are a lot worse than this. Compared to other JRPGs FF is one of the better game series of the genre to stream because they are less boring. I eyeballed the Trails series, but i'm afraid it's gonna be much worse to watch. (I have never played it before)

Here's what i roughly did in those 35 hours of streaming:

- 5-10 hours of amateur voice acting. JRPGs without voiced dialogue get my VA treatment, because that allows people to not pay attention and not having to read the dialogue themselves. It also mean i don't have to worry about clicking away any text that someone might want to read. You can consider this dead air though.
- 10 hours of gameplay. running around, doing dungeons combat etc. I usually talk little here just doing play-by-play
- 5 hours of gushing over pre-rendered backgrounds (i'm sorry they are just too good)
- 5 hours of talking over the story as a whole, especially talking about Squalls emotional "trauma" which he managed to overcome and highlighting the high-points of the game's story telling, while also criticizing what the game does wrong at any given point.
- everything else is dead air (5-10 hours)

Someone who was actually a good streamer could do a better job than me, but i believe if you approach a JRPG like a normal game and just let it run in the background you give up everything. Also voiced dialogue makes it really hard to shine as a streamer as the game takes away your spotlight for a long time, which is why i prefer older games which have only little or no voiced dialogue. I'm by no means a good example because i literally get nobody watching, but this is sort of an "objective" approach on how to deal with JRPG's. If you had a nice voice or were a good voice actor, you could definitely make the VA portion a highlight of the stream.

A couple problems with this format:
- people who don't care about story and want to just have the streamer funny reaction content probably wont watch
- people who tuned in late and care about the story can't watch because they missed half of it (previous streams)
- people who already know the story probably don't care either
- jrpgs in general while popular as games, a lot of people don't want to watch someone else play them.
- most of them are super long and sometimes super grindy on-top which drags down the experience.

In general the structure of those streams are probably a bit different, and maybe the reason people come to your stream doesn't fit with streaming those types of games. If you are fine with dropping viewers though in favor of playing something you want though, i think the usual people will still be back once you are done with it, so it's probably fine.

>> No.24681649

>>24680815
Xenoblade is not a good example though. EVERY streamer that played Xenoblade got huge drops in viewers. It's just incredibly boring to watch. Kiara plays JRPG a lot and her viewers never drop that low (she actually gets more than she got on Zelda Wind Waker). Sure, JRPGs are niche content but if you're a very small streamer that barely gets any new viewers, JRPGs are not a debuff. In fact, most of the fans are very dedicated and loyal so you'll probably end up having more fans than streaming boring league.

>> No.24681670

>>24680815
Noelle was pulling 7000+ viewers on her dragon quest stream earlier. There's got to be the audience for it somewhere

Also Xenoblade is comparatively niche to persona and final fantasy

>> No.24681709

>>24681670
Noelle fans are only there for big titties, not the game choice. You can't reason with them.

>> No.24681746

>>24681709
Shuba had 5000+ on final fantasy earlier, then.

>> No.24681756

>>24664680
how do streamers not notice this? its not like there is no indicator of this

>> No.24681832

>>24680505
>/asp/ is one person

>> No.24681849

>>24681746
>less than her usual

>> No.24681921

>>24681587
Try Disco elysium Kaiser

>> No.24681957

>>24681587
Are you bored or why did you write up a whole book that had nothing to do with the original claim?
>TL;DR I had no viewers so my opinion probably doesn't matter. I had no viewers btw. Oh did I already say I had no viewers?

>> No.24681968

>>24670038
i bet that there isn't many of those

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>>24681957
you are actually retarded, he wrote what he experienced and the kind of approach he did streaming a JRPG, how is that not related to the original claim
you are probably only a crab trying to be mean to him anyway so who cares

>> No.24682082

>>24681968
/asp/ies unironically post their streams in the discord instead

>> No.24682084

>>24680749
the streamer can make the stream good even if the game is something weird

>> No.24682092

>>24682022
>you are probably only a crab trying to be mean to him anyway so who cares
And you're probably sucking his dick right now who cared enough to reply to it

>> No.24682121

>>24682082
but i am a viewer and don't really want to join random discords

>> No.24682139

>>24680749
>not the anon but you gotta admit jrpgs are not good streaming games.
Holofags and Nijikeks beg to differ.
A lot of bigger streamers have successfully streamed JRPGs.

>> No.24682153

>>24682084
JRPGs aren't weird, they're just long and dragged out. There's only so much an entertainer can do with the amount of nothing and padded gameplay in JRPGs.

>> No.24682192

>>24682121
There's a lot of viewers in the cord, but yeah understandable.

>>24682139
You're in /asp/.

>> No.24682217

>>24682121
Here's an easy tutorial for you
>Go to twitch and sort by viewers lowest to highest
>Click on the vtuber that you're interested in
>Groom them and donate them a lot of money
There are small vtubers on twitch that try a lot harder than us lazy aspies.

>> No.24682220

>>24682153
thats only a good thing if you are good at talking and interacting with chat. the game can just be background content to make it a bit more interesting to watch

>> No.24682269

>>24682192
>You're in /asp/.
Doesn't matter, he didn't specifiy anything, this was in general. If you only want to focus on aspies, not a single game would be good for streaming.

>> No.24682273

>>24682217
i just completed one of those quests. maybe these are different and worth giving a chance

>> No.24682422

>>24681921
I heard good things about it, maybe i will. I should do more stuff outside of my comfort zone.

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For the anon obsessed with my witch, i got a small update on my model for you

>> No.24683096

>>24682730
She's becoming a tumblr witch now?
just kidding my dude

>> No.24683135

>>24682422
Accept my request Kaiser aaaaaa

>> No.24683136

>>24682730
LMAO I'm so glad this is what I'm known for.
I'm wet already, keep us updated

>> No.24683166

>>24682730
Konrad, do you have any preview of when you start streaming?

>> No.24683245

>>24679278
>not azu
rude

>> No.24683284

>>24683245
Azu looks like they have a small butt
also i'm never sure what pronoun to use with them since the model is obviously female and i wish i could fuck the character

>> No.24683358

>>24683136
What do you think are her charm points?

>> No.24683447

>>24683284
Babis should be "she" except when they clearly make no attempt to portray themselves as the character.

>> No.24683567

>>24682422
its a god like game, but be warned that every major character is basically a 4chan schizo with fucked up world views either about race theory or communism and im not even kidding

>> No.24683595

>>24682730
oh right, I've been meaning to make art of her. She's coming along nicely!

>> No.24683926

>>24683166
Not sure what you're asking here, sorry.
>>24683136
I absolutely will. I've gotten huge laughs at work reading your comments about her
>>24683096
Kek
>>24683595
Omg.... no way....

>> No.24683978

>>24683926
>Not sure what you're asking here, sorry.
esl, gomen
when do you plan to start streaming?

>> No.24684054

>>24683978
I've already been streaming as of like a month and a half ago fren.

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>>24684054
i'm so fucking retarded

>> No.24684180
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Going live now!
https://www.twitch.tv/kawazu_shoutarou

>> No.24684483

>>24684106
nigga didnt even bother checking his twitter, this is your average viewerfag.

>> No.24684663
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>>24683284

>> No.24685769
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>>24684663
Hey
Let me teach you the way of my people

>> No.24685832

Is me streaming jrpgs that bad?
I thought they were doing well, my average viewer count has been pretty consistent since I started persona 4, so I thought it'd be good to keep at..

>> No.24685985

>>24685832
>Is me streaming jrpgs that bad?
>I thought they were doing well
You just answered your own question. If your viewers like seeing you play them, don't stop. Most aspies here are just 2views. Your experience is more valuable than their advice.

>> No.24686011

>>24682730
We live in a society.
Looks like a clean base for rigging, not that I know anything about 2D rigging.

>> No.24686125

>>24684663
I must procreate with this model.
Azu can watch tho.

>> No.24687259

>>24685832
As long as you dont have all your content be JRPGs it's fine, JRPGs are just very zatsudan heavy and require a lot of skill and effort to make entertaining too.

>> No.24687349

>>24687259
What else should I stream in-between?

>> No.24687417

>>24687349
Whatever you want.

>> No.24687471

>>24687349
I'm not sure, it really depends on the audience you cultivated and what they would like. Have you tried looking for short actiony games instead of long ones? or maybe just doing a stream that doesnt involve games at all like talking about a certain topic or researching/learning about things.

What have you tried so far that worked in entertaining your audience?

>> No.24687721

I'm now not just my own mama, but someone else's too. I'm so happy, they liked my art enough to choose me... Here's to further art reps and improvements!

>> No.24688112

>>24687349
try not pandering to 4chan too much. everyone that does it stagnates forever

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Brown Dog appreciation post!

>> No.24688482

>>24688297
>smoking
Gross

>> No.24688518

Which aspies have the biggest booba

>> No.24688571

>>24688482
Can you see any smoke? No? It's a fake cigarette, idiot.

>> No.24688829

>>24684180
This was just what I needed.

>> No.24688856

>>24688829
I just ended stream though :(

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>>24688518
from 2? threads ago

>> No.24690176

>>24685832
of course if your viewership is consistent then thats fine, but jrpg as a genre is incredbily divisive. the slower more turn based ones with shit loads of text will hardcore filter non die hard jrpg fans and also they are long as fuck so they are harder to commit a full play through to.

>> No.24690237

What will happen if Azu removes the bodysuit, will she die?

>> No.24690248

https://twitter.com/MinkyeVT/status/1527931309397508096

>> No.24690288

>>24690248
God I love Minkye's artstyle. I don't plan on changing my design anytime soon though. I hope that model goes to a good home.

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>>24688518
Not sure about the biggest, but the prettiest has sexy witch!

>> No.24690537

>>24690308
Shoulder club LESSGO

>> No.24690683

>>24690248
I guess making models is good way to advertise yourself and hone your craft

>> No.24690949

no, but it would be extremely painful

>> No.24691021
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>>24690949
UUUU

>> No.24691065

>>24690949
you're a big chuuba

>> No.24691389

Azu would be better if she wore a mask or helmet and had a cool voice changer

>> No.24691511

>>24691389
Making her even harder to understand...

>> No.24692404

>>24691389
Azu is a dude

>> No.24692499

>>24692404
damn i wish i was a dude just like Azu

>> No.24693384

I want to suck Anzu cock

>> No.24693457

Azu is a bit like women in general, you like the body, just not the person it's attached to.
No homo.

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>>24693384
this thing?

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>>24693384
>>24693486
I think they mean this cutie.

>> No.24693832

Trying to make it as a Vtuber now is like trying to get rich from bitcoin today.
It wont happen.

>> No.24693878

>>24693832
There are people making it as vtubers everyday.
Not to mention you can do this as a hobby to help motivate you to better yourself.

>> No.24693902

>>24693832
If you have this loser mentality you'll never succeed in anything.

>> No.24694020

>>24693878
Motivate your self by being stagnate and talking to no one, right, its not like you are doing it for the money at all.

>> No.24694026

>>24693832
Bitcoin is a scam, vtubing is a genre. What a dumb comparison.

>> No.24694049

>started dming a fellow chuuba from the same artist
>try to be very formal and polite in the dms
>they get very attached for some reason
>randomly asked for my discord
>sent their irl pics with no regards for opsec
Did I just unintentionally groom someone?

>> No.24694094

>>24694049
Thats incest anon..

>> No.24694096

>>24694049
You didn't do anything wrong. Some people just really don't understand why they shouldn't do that.

>> No.24694101

>>24676687
Imo if Alto hid his power level a bit better and started filling dead air, he could have some potential. He probably isn't gonna do it though, so i agree he should stop, mostly for his own good.

>> No.24694125

>>24693832
except you can get rich trading bitcoin due to the volatility. you wont get rich sitting on 3000000 bitcoins you bought for a cent each 15 years ago, but the games changed and theres still opportunities. just because early adopters reaped the early rewards doesnt mean the entire endeavor is fruitless

>> No.24694375

>>24693832
Hahaha tired of being a boring and talentless 2view? Menhera won't get you anywhere, fag

>> No.24694448

>>24694101
I don't know, he's learning some skills, being more accountable then some adults in some aspects. Hell, he even made slides for his debut this Thursday.
His experience as a vtuber could help him when he grows up.

>> No.24694726

>>24694448
yeah and to give him credit, being 18 and knowing all the basic streaming tech and some 3D modeling is pretty decent. he has autism so maybe he can study to be a code monkey and make a better living than most people. only issue is hes in a shit hole third world country

>> No.24694815

>>24690237
It would be extremely painful

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>>24694815
DOKTOR, TURN OFF MY PAIN INHIBITORS

>> No.24695038

>>24694950
But Azu! That's insane!

>> No.24695326

>he fell for the debut meme
ngmi

>> No.24695412

>>24694448
>He knows how to use powerpoint, therefore he's accountable
lol, i agree on the rest though
>>24694726
He has mentioned studying IT quite a few times, so you might be onto something. Wouldn't the lower cost of living of a third world country be a positive for such a high paying profession?

>> No.24695620

>>24695412
I don't mean that using powerpoint is impressive , but that he actually did it for a hobby. Put in some effort. Most younguns just dick around nowadays.
The market for technology has been saturated for the past few years, he won't have a good time finding a job unless he gits gud.

>> No.24695670

>>24693832
Bitcoin was always sort of speculative, it could have just fizzled out, and there was real buzz about using it as alternative payment for food and stuff years ago.Obviously it has a lot of problems and some success but that's like trying to pick the horse that will win the race in 10 years.

Vtubing is completely different. It's not like there was ever a point when the market of online content was not saturated but it was saturated in different ways. Online media has constantly changed with different presentations and trends that have come and gone. Most vtubers aren't uniquely vtubers. They're just mostly failed streamers that are trying something new. Now they're mostly failed vtubers that are textbook examples of sunk costs. Danny Choo made it big with blogging not because he was special but because he had early knowledge of using Google and adsense. Other bloggers tried to make it work too, we had a whole wave of """press""" that begged for press passes to events before policies changed like what happened to e3. Web comics was another trend, a few got big, others died down. Things started to change with Youtube and then Twitch, more people could generate a stable income out of it but most were always at the hobby level and still are.

There are also lots of people we don't remember that were too early or even just at the perfect time who quit and vanished from history like they never existed. Many wont have much success regardless of when they start and then suddenly someone rides a wave of success seemingly out of nowhere. There is never a good time to start but if you don't start you wont know what could have been.

>> No.24695773

>>24694049
Many chuubas are just sexpests that want to get drunk on the internet popularity and have anime relationships for all to ship.

>> No.24695858

>>24694049
i think the genders involved here will provide a lot of context

>> No.24695876

>>24693832
People said that last year and somehow there's still chuubas making it. Vtubing is just streamers and plenty of streamers come up from nothing all the time.

>> No.24695924

>>24695773
not all anon

>> No.24695981

>>24695858
I'm male. The chuuba is female

>> No.24695983

>>24695924
You scared me for a second. I almost thought I posted that they're all like that.

>> No.24696038

>>24695983
ofc not, some are wholesome

>> No.24696105

>>24694049
how ugly are they? that's the only thing that matters

>> No.24696208
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>>24695981
don't let it happen to you, anon.

>> No.24696294

>>24695981
Unwanted female attention is weird when you've been kicked around most of your life.
Are you single? And does she stream regularly?
I wouldn't want to get too close to a vtweeter on an emotional level.

>> No.24696325

>>24695981
well thats unexpected...but not suprising, plenty of unexperienced weeb girls get chewed up and played with by the first sexy anime dude to show interest as proven by that mini metoo shit a month back

>> No.24696365

Let me preface this by saying I don't think people should ignore opsec, they can do what they want to achieve the levels of privacy they desire, but why are people so obsessed with it?

There's tens of thousands of IRL streamers out there who have no issue talking about their college, places thet go, their home town, etc and everything is absolutely fine for them. Hell there's men and women who walk around live with no delay that have never experienced and issue stemming from a viewer before. While there's some out there like the bigger streamers that get "callers" from time to time for places they go even that is relatively uncommon and easily avoided. Is it just some weird thing people adopted from corporate vtubers? I mean your average face am streamer has little to no issue with these things so why is it almost exclusively vtubers who do?

>> No.24696470

>>24695981
Be very careful anon, most likely it's a big package of menhera

>> No.24696490

>>24695981
Please post the pictures you got

>> No.24696631

>>24696105
Pretty cute, actually

>>24696208
Aye

>>24696294
>kicked around most of your life.
This. I'm reaaally not used to female attention. She's still in modelling phase if that matters.

>>24696325
Yeah that's what I'm scared about. So far my dms look like generic customer service speak so I think I'm fine

>>24696470
Yeah I'm being very very careful. Treading carefully as of now.

>>24696490
I'm not that evil, anon

>> No.24696641

>>24696325
What about the female chuubas or the trans chuubas? Has that not been exposed yet?

>> No.24696784

>>24696365
I have an actual career that I wouldn’t want to get impacted by vtubing. Would you be able to take your boss seriously if you found out they played an anime girl on the internet?

>> No.24696814
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24696814

i'm trying my hardest to not be a sexpest, it's hard being lonely.

>> No.24696818

>>24696365
opsec allows you to sell your character easier basically. the less people know about you, the more they have to trust your word and design to perceive who you are. this works well for holos like subaru who had to sell her story about her diseases and poverty, notice the controversy when she self sabotaged and people questioned her entire character.

for people like us, it probably matters less. hell most succesful indies transitioned from being ethots and will gladly flash their tits in the dumb trend. saruei, veibei, snuffy, etc, its almost a buff to have shit opsec and be known to be an e whore

>> No.24696842

>>24696814
so that's why Kaiser left the server

>> No.24696956

>>24696842
I threatened to drop my #metoo on him.

>> No.24696975

>>24696842
when you realize he had to leave because he couldnt control himself around underaged memebers

>> No.24697020

>>24696365
I made an edgy comment once on a blogspot owned by someone else 10 years ago, under my real name, and it still shows up when you google my name.
Imagine if it was something related to cunny that shows up when an employer googles your name. Which they do.

>> No.24697028

>>24696814
Didn't know Kaiser is a fucking coomer but now it all makes sense. Damn you fucking pervert.

>> No.24697031

>>24696956
>>24696975
so it was Kaiser grooming alto this whole time. and we all thought yellow cat was the predator

>> No.24697050

>>24695620
Understandable, and yeah, coding has gotten more competitive lately, i hope he manages to find his spot

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So why do guys seem to have an easier time choosing to be a babiniku rather than picking a trap model?
Is it because it's easier to disconnect themselves from the character since it's a completely different gender. But if they use a trap model they're worried it might say something about them (gay sissy that wants their donut glazed)

>> No.24697216

>>24696814
you can be a sexpest with me mein kaiser

>> No.24697313

>>24696365
Streamers do have problems and it does bother them. Actually sometimes it's very distracting they go on rants regularly or always interact with the same troll group daily. The potential for actual stalkers is very high too or people that try and get you fire or interfere with your real life. Death threats and threats to conventions are all things that have occurred to content creators. Of course when you're making 6 or 7 figures you can start caring a lot less.

>> No.24697434

>>24697194
In MMO research years ago they concluded that male players are more likely to play characters radically different from themselves including the opposite gender. Who knows why but it's probably due to differences in socialization.

>> No.24697460

I want to peg the autistic drunk cowboy until he's gasping for air

>> No.24697575

>>24696365
I have an exceedingly strict contract with my IRL job, such that ANYTHING made during my terms of employment, they will attempt to claim. An ex-colleague self-published a novel on Amazon and once they found out, she was fired.

>> No.24697610

>>24697028
I try to act like a reasonable person, that's how i getcha anon-chama <3

>> No.24697862

>>24697194
i think most the babis here just want their bro viewers to have something cute to look at. the idea is that the avatar doesnt matter since its all scuff self made with no roleplaying so might as well make it coombait for dudes instead of being a failed ikemen/shota while alienating the bros

>> No.24697905

>>24696814
Kaiser has a libido?

>> No.24698037

>>24695670
>>24694125
>>24694026
Yall are coping so hard and ignoring the aspect of the comparison that actually matters.
Saturation is saturation.
you can copy and paste that 50x if you need a paragraph to match.

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>>24697194
trap vtubers have a bad track record

>> No.24698103

>>24697862
>i think most the babis here just want their bro viewers to have something cute to look at.
This. We all know we won't get any new viewers as babis but at least we can make the bros happy

BROS BEFORE HOES

>> No.24698104

>>24698037
Entertainment is not the same as saturation of a fucking coin retard
It's like saying there is a saturation of food

>> No.24698218

>>24698037
You're absolutely retarded

>> No.24698306

>>24696365
Anon, we act retarded and sperg out in our chuuba personas because we can let loose. Meanwhile our job requires us to maintain a professional image and that would be utterly destroyed if people are to find out we're saying stupid shit and making stupid noises in the internet

>> No.24698348

>>24698037
and yet chuubas and streamers in general grow all the time. it really isn't that big of a deal and many people's definition of "making it" isn't being a multi-millionaire 10k viewer streamer.

>> No.24698361

>>24697194
I find a regular babi model to be sexually less charged than trying to lean into a trap / femboy model. You can't seduce anyone being a babi, but you are almost expected to be a lewd chuuba as a trap / femboy, because it's just how the culture around that design has grown.

If you speak purely aesthetics, i like astolfo as much as the next guy, amd i could imagine someone holding up a regular personality with something like that, but i don't think there'd be any appeal of you aren't at least a bit homo.

That being said, as much as the admiral i could imagine playing a femboy or just a regular guy, or even a furry or monster, but in my personal opinion for the femboy the voice is important for me and I'm almost the polar opposite.

>> No.24698388

>>24698103
It's weird how transparent the babiposter is now, you can always tell when it's the same exact person

>> No.24698433

>>24697194
traps or femboys require a certain personality that most babis simply don't make an effort to do

>> No.24698460

>>24698104
>>24698218
holy shit you guys are ignorant.
>>24698348
I respect your opinion most out of the tree stooges

>> No.24698520

>>24697194
Traps are gay. I just want to play dress-up with my model.

>> No.24698570

>>24698037
It was saturated as soon as there were billions of humans.

>> No.24698585

>Kaiser tweeting about taking kids from a playground
Holy shit he really is a sexpest

>> No.24698625

>>24698388
Nice try but this was my first message in the past few hours, schizofag

>> No.24698684

>>24698585
Kaiser if you see this, please fucking kill yourself. Stupid pedo coomer wants to touch kids
Someone like you shouldn't be allowed to be a vtuber. Fucking piece of shit.

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>>24698585
hold on, I don't like where this is going...

>> No.24698743

>>24698625
Schizo? You all just type the same shit on loop it's pretty reasonable to assume you're all the same retard, but I guess there's a lot of retards out there so sorry for mistaking you for another one.

>> No.24698844

I can't believe Kaiser left the discord because he couldn't control his urges towards the underage users

>> No.24699032

>>24698037
>>24698460
There are people that aren't vtubers right now. They're going to become the biggest vtubers and define the industry in the minds of many people. Each one will have a following bigger than all the top ten vtubers combined today. Then someone is going to say that before they became big was the time to start but now it's too saturated. As it is with everything and always has been. You can't guarantee success but you can guarantee failure. You're just choosing to be an idiot and spending your time whining instead of either doing something else or giving it your best shot. You'll find that whatever you end up doing with your life that everything is saturated including doing nothing and whining online.

>> No.24699097

>>24699032
I am guaranteeing my success by guaranteeing the failure of others by doomposting.

>> No.24699170

>>24699097
This is the only correct strategy. While it likely won't be someone here who has any real form of success, what if by some insane chance it is? We need to keep them down now so that, in the future, it's one less stream that somebody has a chance to click. One less tiktok, one less youtube video, and one less "banger tweet" that could go viral.

unironically though, most people here are trash and it's evident by the fact they'd have zero viewers if aspies weren't their main source of viewers

>> No.24699178

>too depressed to eat, clean room, do basic human things
>but grooming kids on discord does bring a smile to my face, and a raging boner to boot

>> No.24699239

>>24698844
Let's cancel him
This pedo doesn't deserve a platform

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>>24699178

>> No.24699263

>>24699097
In the end you were only ever doomposting and wasting your time.

>> No.24699287

>>24699178
But anon he left the discord.
He's now too depressed to even groom kids. Sad!

>> No.24699301

Daily reminder that Kaiser is a pedophile and should be removed from the internet

>> No.24699370

>>24696814
Unironically one of the creepiest things I've read in /asp/ to date, but probably not the real kaiser. Even he isn't this mentally ill, right

>> No.24699404

>>24673100
>the "big 4"
I would like to know who the big four are.

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>Kaiser after streaming Minecraft with 2 clippable moments, uploading a tiktok, a youtube short, responding to twitter interactions, and relaxing on discord voice chat

>> No.24699609

>>24699370
It's definitely the real kaiser dude.

>> No.24699660

>>24699609
I have never watched the guy or interacted with him but isn't he a grown ass man

>> No.24699692

Dumb rrats need Ogey correction.

>> No.24699693

>>24699584
Kaiser seems like a cool guy. I'm just too shy to send a message to him so we can bro up.

>> No.24699696

>>24699404
I presume Nyaru, Olivia, Fushi and Eira, if we're just doing numbers? But only Olivia posts much

>> No.24699706

>>24699660
Yeah but this are literally problems he talks a lot about. He's a broken men

>> No.24699774

feel like all this kaiser anti-ing is probably yellow cat schizoing out because people said kaiser left the server because of him

>> No.24699788

Shut up and post a cute Azu pic or something.

>> No.24699792

>>24699774
Ahaha, mystery solved. I could tell it was yellow cat (his posting style is too obvious) but since I'm not in the discord I couldn't figure out why he's suddenly a Kaiser schizo.

>> No.24699867

>>24699774
Yellow cat wasn't even here the past two days
Even though I hate this stupid motherfucker and hope he'll die soon, I don't think he's here right now

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>>24699239
I'm not sure what you are trying to cancel, but i think you guy's energy would be better spent on cheering on our 3 girl's on their collab in 10 minutes than trying to drag down a terminal failure even more. Do something productive for a change and make sure they make it.

https://twitter.com/cublala/status/1528118228123262976

If anyone is truly concerned, my DM's are open, but i have to go to bed now.

>> No.24699878

>>24699774
pretty sure the anti-ing is just larping, i contributed to atleast 3 posts since its just funny to me that a depressed sack of flesh still has energy to be a child predator

>> No.24699911

>>24699774
The amount of posters is a lot higher than usual so I guess Kaiser being outed as a pedo got some attention from discords. Good.

>> No.24699912

>>24699774
I was hoping yellowcat got banned, because I'd not seen any "mashi is so cute and funny" posting in general today.

>> No.24699949

Why would anyone join a discord server that has yellow cat in it?

>> No.24699958

>>24699911
>outed
Usually when someone is "outed" for something there's proof, not a bunch of random anons trying to run some smear campaign

>> No.24700032

>>24699958
Kaiser tried to groom underaged girls on discord, someone made it public and kaiser admitted to it.
What other proof do you want? Do you want him to rape you next night?

>> No.24700078

>>24700032
>something with no evidence happens and then another thing with no evidence happened and now its proof

you got me, im convinced

>> No.24700080

>>24700032
>skinwalk on 4chan
>admission
lol.
lmao

>> No.24700085

This thread reminds me of the classic rock song "Radioactive" by the band "Imagine Dragons"

>> No.24700101

>>24700032
>Do you want him to rape you next night
god please yes, its hard being lonely

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