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>> No.24960142

>>24960119
She likes streaming, but not as much as her viewers/cover would want her to stream.
She dislikes her fans

>> No.24960244

She hates the sea of normalfags in her audience.

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24960265

>>24960142
As a chumretard, I'm starting to lose hope

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>>24960119

>> No.24960363

she hates that she can't show her powerlevel on stream

>> No.24960364

>>24960142
Why does she dislike her fans? Even members? Are chumbos really that bad?

>> No.24960427

>>24960119
Yes, goes way back.
>>24960244
But she's one of the most normalfag vtubers there is

>> No.24960505

>>24960427
>most normalfag
>likes cunny, feet, scat
>is ponyfag

>> No.24960506
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24960506

I'm not going to renew my membership. I know that that won't do shit, but at least I'm going to spend it with someone that at the very least tries to connect with their fans

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>>24960505

>> No.24960886
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24960886

>>24960119
I think she just may have ADHD comboed with Aspergers. Her weird noises, lack of social confidence and at the same time wanting to dominate the conversation are really major giveaways. Despite being intelligent she stated multiple times irrc that she had trouble with school and if she doesnt fake her math stuff, then its a pretty obvious giveaway too. Social anxiety, weird interests that are found quite often with aspies, hyperfixations, she's still being supported by her mother. I think her alcoholism came from developing depression due to not understanding what exactly is wrong with her. Her complexes about her own height and breast size arent exactly helping either, further lowering her confidence in herself and making her feel like she just got lucky and doesnt deserve/doesnt want to be in the spot she is. She cant picture herself being succesful and thinks she just got lucky multiple times, instead of 'properly' earning it. The fact that she's streaming less and puts much less effort than her earlier streams might just be beacuse she wants to tank down her own channel a bit and let someone else overtake her, so she can fit in with rest of the girls and be at the level they're at. Just the fact she is where she is is also putting tremendous pressure on her, as people from Cover propably expect her to act a certain way, talk a certain way, always deny some of her requests and it fuels her hatred for where she's at in both personal and buisness life.

But thats just a random speculation by an armchair psychologist from mongolian basket weaving forum.

>> No.24960981

>>24960886
Worth reading, thanks anon

>> No.24961007

>>24960505
Those are the most normalfag fetishes there is. How long have you been at the internet?

>> No.24961072

She hates fame. But I think she loves what she does too much to walk away

>> No.24961076

>>24961007
Most normalfag? Haven't you heard about domination, milf or other mainstream shit that every single normalfag likes?

>> No.24961132

>>24961007
You have no fucking idea what a normalfag is.

>> No.24961218

>>24960886
whens your book come out

>> No.24961291

>>24961076
>>24961132
That's very normalfag, Gura is an ironic weeb. If she was truly a weeb she wouldn't like Vocaloid, lolis and all that shit.

>> No.24961295

>>24960119
She hates being number 1.

>> No.24961338

>>24961291
First of all, a normalfag doesn't even know what any of those things are. Secondly, I hope to god you're just baiting because that is the single most retarded statement I've read in a while.

>> No.24961404

You guys do realize she's aware her fanbase is known as "chumpedos" all over the internet, right? Doesn't exactly inspire confidence as an audience to cater to, given what she went through herself as a child.

>> No.24961467

>>24961404
> what she went through herself as a child
the fuck

>> No.24961510

>>24961291
glad to know those assholes were wrong when they were calling me a weeb

>> No.24961541

>>24960119
She hater permissions

>> No.24961547

>>24961467
how new?

>> No.24961592

>>24961404
anon she caters to her fans all the time, just take a look at the tweets she has liked.

>> No.24961613

>>24961404
>she constantly retweets suggestive and erotic images of herself
Yea buddy, I'm sure she's really bothered by it all.
Also meds.

>> No.24961630

>>24961592
Yes, she is well aware that her job is to cater to pedophiles. Thanks for repeating my point.

>> No.24961660

>>24960119
she hates streaming when she isn't feeling it. doing things when you have the mood is a pro tip to be successful that you no lifer probably doesn't understand yet.
just being lazy would only make you go that far, plenty of evidence.

>> No.24961877

>>24961404
it's the opposite actually, her fans even scolded her for saying loli. also meds, she's an adult, there's nothing wrong with sexualizing her. unless you are a fag that supports body shaming.

>> No.24961921

>>24960119
OP hates meds, right?

but he loves sucking cock

>> No.24961952

>>24961877
>her fans even scolded her for saying loli
>her fans
You mean one retarded normalfag in chat in a sea of UUUOOOOOOHHHHHs which is exactly the part of her audience she hates.

>> No.24962067

>>24961877
This literally never happened though

>> No.24962142

>>24961291
I just came here to call you a retard.

>> No.24962156

>>24961877
Timestamp?

>> No.24962267

>>24961952
UOHHH is just the new "FBI open up" and it won't change the fact you avoid to talk about that she's a grown ass adult

>> No.24963161

She hates her cringeworthy fans. Just look at this poster
>>24960886
Gura is a generic lazy zoomer and somehow she's been diagnosed with adhd and aspergers because american doctors force pills into any retards hand.

>> No.24963272

>>24960427
>he doesn't know

>> No.24963673

>>24960119
go watch any of her recent streams, you can clearly notice how she's waiting 'till a certain time to end it. Bitch has the easiest job in the world and still hates it

>> No.24963796

>>24961467
he's making shit up

>> No.24963838

I think she's just having trouble sustaining an interest in kusoge. When she's really interested in something you can tell.

>> No.24964110

>>24963838
>When she's really interested in something you can tell.
too bad she's never been interested in streaming

>> No.24964234

>>24960142
t. Greyname

>> No.24964303

>>24960886
>wanting to dominate the conversation
????

>> No.24964466

>>24960119
She never asked for this

>> No.24964501

>>24960364
They are not worse than any other fan. Imagine being as big as Gura, Ina etc.
You will obviously get a lot of bad apples who all stick out. I wouldn't want to stream much either, if i had a weak mental.
That's why Kiara and Mori actually stream the most. While they mental isn't exceptionally good, they are not your average women and manage to deal with shitty situations much much better than for example Ame, who justs disappears. Tummy hurt.

Just to be clear. I don't blame them. Especially not Myth. They worked hard to get that big and deserve to take many breaks . . . . Council on the other hand. Fuck council. Imagine hating your fans when you didn't even work towards in getting them.

>> No.24964518

>>24961291
>and all that shit
Opinion discarded.

>> No.24964582

>>24961660
>doing things when you have the mood is a pro tip to be successful
This ONLY applies to entertainers.

>> No.24964635

Plz strem

>> No.24964723

>>24964582
And I would add, only applies to performances. They should practice all the time.

>> No.24965104

I'm pretty sure most of HoloEN hate streaming besides Kiara. Comparing them to the hours HoloJP or NijiEN members put in and it's clear they're just coasting off the brand name and milking as money as they can out of it while doing as little as possible.

>> No.24965772

>>24965104
I am worried that Kiara will end up like Pekora.

>> No.24965878

>>24960364
Most of her fans are pedos and she knows it.

>> No.24966004

>>24960244
This desu
Having to constantly suppress your powerlevel is draining

>> No.24966129

>>24965104
Kiara hates streaming too, she just likes the attention from it. Streaming is just work for her.

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24966774

>>24960119
Look at how many number of videos she has and compare that with other Myth members, hell compare it to people in HoloX and then come back to your question.

>> No.24967207

>>24961467
NTA but she did say she had a "stranger danger" moment in New York, but Gura doesn't hate her fans, she's as much of a lolicon as the average chumbud, she even liked a fanart of her wearing a jacket of the ToT emoji

>> No.24967328

>>24964501
Anon, Ame streamed 2nd the most in EN.

>> No.24969110

>>24967328
I never said the opposite.
It is obvious to us that when she feels down she doesn't stream, which i fully accept too. She deserved it.

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24969172

To be honest it seems like only Ame, Kiara and IRyS still care about streaming in EN, and out of those only Ame is above the JP average.
Last month was the same thing

>> No.24969210

Lazy cunt

>> No.24969266

>>24961404
she likes her pedo fans more than she likes the normalfags and actual children

>> No.24969425

>>24969172
>Ina had PC problems, a billion art projects that are behind schedule and an ISP that openly despises her
>Still streamed more than Gura
Grim.

>> No.24969515

>>24969266
>chumpedos unironically believe this

>> No.24969521

>>24969110
>when she feels down she doesn't stream
That is true for Mori/Kiara too though.

>> No.24969644

IT'd be ffunny if she blames her fanbase/sub bots being the autistic babyshark corperation on trying to rope her in by association

>> No.24969741

>>24969515
I dont like EN, I'm just stating the fact that gura is also a pedo and panders to her pedo fans

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24969856

>>24966774
Looks good to me

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>>24969741

>> No.24969967

>>24969521
yes

>> No.24970526

>>24969741
Okay chumpedo

>> No.24970541

>>24969856
Comparing a lazy streamer to another lazy streamer isn't helping anyone's case, we know Kronii is lazy, but why does Gura only have a 200+ video difference despite being in EN for far longer?

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24970678

>>24970541
People call Bae a hard worker and Gura still has way more streams than her.

>> No.24970747

>>24970678
i hope you're trolling and you're not actually this retarded.

>> No.24970791

>>24970747
Not an argument.

>> No.24970848

>>24970678
People only say this because she streamed every day in February. Other than that she streams an average amount. Gura only has more than her because she's been around longer and it's sad because she doesn't have much more than her despite that fact.

>> No.24970914

>>24960506
good! Come on thread, follow through with this anon. Gura only needs me

>> No.24971326

>>24970791
He wasn't making an argument and you didn't make the argument you think you did either.

>> No.24971662

At this point I don't even know why chumbuds defend gura or attack anyone who points out that she's lazy and arguably undeserving that lucky ticket draw even if the amount of support (ccv/money) she receives is grossly disproportionate compared to the work she puts in.
She's almost the same as ayame and can get away with it because "I'm a cute cunny". The only difference between them is that gura forces herself to stream at least the required minimum to keep the cash flowing while ayame almost completely gave up. Other than that they're both fucking around (literally & figuratively speaking) and have very little appreciation for the opportunity they've been given.

>> No.24971840

>>24971326
I accept your concessions. Gura is consistent.

>> No.24972050

>>24960119
She doesn't seem like the type of person to put with people/things that she hates.

>> No.24972131

>>24960119
She suffered a mental breakdown due to Cookie and Salome destroying her career. Sad.

>> No.24972289

>>24971662
>She's almost the same as ayame
disqualified from having an opinion

>>24972131
>Salome
who?

>> No.24972422

>>24971662
>almost the same as ayame
yeah sure bud, a 3 day break is totally comparable to 2 months. you don't need to make shit up, just point out her actual bad habits.

>> No.24972783

Her dog died.

>> No.24972829

>>24960119
She hates cumtards is the thing to know.

>> No.24972943

>>24969741
>>24969515
>>24969266
>>24961404
>>24970526
>>24961630
Nigger you sound like Dr. Pizza
You should neck yourself

>> No.24972981

>>24971840
Consistently lazy yeah. Checkmate cumtard

>> No.24973082

>>24971662
All hardworking chubas are worth even less than Amouranth then? because compared to them, that thot is on another level when it comes to the raw numbers. Vtuber job is about bringing happiness to other people, if you're not happy
yourself then you can't do the job properly so it's important to keep up with that (It's a marathon not a sprint). This is the difference between the #1 and the so-called hardworkers that somehow are also being bitchy lolcow vtubers at the same time,
hell, some of them probably lack the talents to begin with so it doesn't matter how diligent are they.

>> No.24973100

>>24972981
>>24972829
>muh mustard cumtard
is that your new angle now? it's pathetic you samefag the thread with anti gura comments as if nobody can see your shit

>> No.24973184

>>24965878
considering how much she's playing into that she probably is one herself tbf

>> No.24973240

>>24972981
She just did an anime panel and streamed right after like two days ago

>> No.24973243

>>24973082
what's so special about amouranth anyway
her tits are fake and afaik she's getting railed by some chink
like wtf

>> No.24973268 [DELETED] 

>>24972289
>>24972422
The point I was trying to make is that their enthusiasm for streaming and overall attitude towards their work is almost the same. Gura is simply not as stupid as ayame to abandon this easy cash flow so nonchalantly but it's obvious they barely care about the work anymore. Everyone is free to guess why but seeing how ayame has a BF and gura most likely has one too (considering she was looking for/bought a house), it would not be unreasonable to think that rich women in their prime time are looking to settle down and have less care/time for games. Everyone who followed gura's PL knows that she used to get some action (which she later denied once shit started spreading like wild fire) and she was under "control" while the coof was going on but now when everything's back to normal she's back to doing what she used to do.

>> No.24973291

>>24969881
There she looks like an adult woman with small chest and low height.

>> No.24973311

>>24973243
She's funny.

>> No.24973397

>>24973243
She has connections to the Twitch clique so she didn't got banned like much of her competition.

>> No.24973420 [DELETED] 

>>24973268
Gura literally dresses like an ethot. She puts on makeup and lipstick. She's straightened and dyed her hair red, blonde, and blue at different times in the past. She constantly buys shirts, sneakers, skirts, jeans, perfume, etc. She even talks about this on stream. How anyone can sit there and listen to this and then believe she doesn't have some kind of social life is beyond me.

>> No.24973429

>>24971662
People arguing any creators are undeserving are coping and don't understand how any entertainment industry works. You can stream 10 hours a day and go nowhere. You aren't any more deserving of success than anyone else.

>> No.24973483

>>24973240
>like two days ago
Just me?

>> No.24973540

>>24973483
it was on sunday, so 3 and a half days ago.

>> No.24973544

>>24966129
Retard

>> No.24973565 [DELETED] 

>>24973420
>blonde
I haven't seen that one. Must be cute.

>> No.24973591

No, she loves streaming, but she hates (you) more than she loves streaming, so she streams as little as possible to make you seethe

>> No.24973634

can you faggots go 1 thread without dogwhistling that you know about doxx shit that you can literally find with a google search? fucking retards.

>> No.24973664

Ame probably introduced Gura to her friends at VShojo and she is now endlessly frustrated she has to keep her act clean unlike her friend's friends.

>> No.24973706

>>24960886
I don't think she's dumbing herself down. I think she just isn't that ambitious. She was trying to prove herself in the beginning. She did that. So now she can just half ass it and collect her easy money

>> No.24973729

>>24973634
To be fair the LPS stuff takes a bit more effort.

>> No.24973782

She likes streaming, but she also likes watching other people's streams and takes time off in order to catch up on her oshi.

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>>24973565

>> No.24973798

>>24973311
is that special? she must be really funny then

>> No.24973805

>>24973420
Welp my post got purged despite the fact that it didn't reveal anything personal about gura that she didn't say herself. Is talking about PLs forbidden or something? Even if chuuba's PL was another chuuba avatar? Am I not allowed to talk about Coco based on what Kson said? Well fuck me in particular, I guess.

>> No.24973814

>>24973240
>Cumtards can't even count properly
Bahahah!

>> No.24973818

>>24973729
you're not special. it;s not secret knowledge. everyone has seen it. bringing it up doesn't make you look cool, it's cringe as shit.

>> No.24973824

>>24973706
>She was trying to prove herself in the beginning. She did that.
She did that? when?

>> No.24973830

>>24973798
>Is that special
For a woman, yes.

>> No.24973903

>>24973805
>>1

>> No.24973973

>>24973824
Releasing covers, streaming for longer hours, doing more collabs and collabs out of branch, building structures in Minecraft, doing a Taco Bell sponsorship deal for the Olympics, dancing on stage, playing twister, playing with heartthrob monitor, etc. She's really accomplished pretty much all of her goals. I think that's why she's more confident and relaxed now.

>> No.24974036

>>24973818
I didn't bring it up, and it does take a bit more effort. People dont mention it as much as her second channel.

>> No.24974060

>>24973973
you mean lazy?

>> No.24974068

>>24973903
Out of curiosity, does this rule apply to vtubers who post real pictures of their face on their main account? It wasn't as common as it is now when this board was created.

>> No.24974092

>>24974068
i'm not sure, you would have to talk to a mod about that.

>> No.24974168

>>24974092
It's crazy how quickly that changed. This board is still quite new and vtubing already feels pretty different from January. I wonder what the future holds.

>> No.24974173

>>24973973
She is probably bored or depressed, like Mori during the lean arc. Mori hot out of it by focusing on doing more music and also working with her roommate more often. Gura doesn't seem to have an outlet like that. Also when she was spamming collabs it seemed like she wanted more company since she probably doesn't have a lot of irl friends.

>> No.24974194

>>24973795
damn

>> No.24974209

>>24974168
personally i'm waiting for vtuber themed ai virtual assistants. the technology isn't quite there yet, but it's pretty damn close.

>> No.24974248

>>24974068
Jannies would probably delete pics from Vein and Nyanners even though they posted that shit themselves.

>> No.24974271

>>24974173
>working with her roommate more often
Yeah, I don't really understand why /vt/ was outraged by that. Did they really expect her to waste her youthful years behind a screen while she's been trying to be a live rapper for years? Even if Mori is a retard I'm happy for her.

>> No.24974318

>>24973795
she has a nice chin 10/10

>> No.24974375

>delete vague dogwhistling
>leave actual doxx up
jannies?

>> No.24974385

>>24974209
If we get to a point where they're convincing it would probably ruin the income of a lot of vtubers. With an AI assistant you'll get all of the attention you desire without needing to split it up with a couple thousand people. It'll be like "Her" in real life.

>> No.24974394

>>24973903
Those rules are somewhat ambiguous. What I mentioned was something personal mentioned by a certain PL vtuber on stream as their content. So, if they say they have a BF or got totally smashed last night (irl) that is their content thus I don't see why should someone be purged for it.

>> No.24974469

>>24974385
that's exactly what i'm waiting for. i dated a lot when i was younger and got turned off real women, now i just want a virtual companion.

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Come back home Gura.

>> No.24974509

>>24974394
It is true. Gura, like the Gawr Gura from Hololive, has talked about buying makeup, perfume, and the type of clothes she likes wearing. Live on her Hololive channel. I'm not sure why that was deleted either. Don't ask for timestamps though, I can't be bothered to find that shit.

>> No.24974562

>>24974375
That's not who think it is

>> No.24974654

>>24960886
Do you think she's ever had a boyfriend and/or fucked and if so, how that might have affected her, psychologist anon?

>> No.24974691

KF actually has less drama and is nicer toward the girls than this place. Holotrannies enforcing the kayfabe doesn't make the discussion any less toxic.

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24974730

uoh shark stepping on ojisan's dirty bulge

>> No.24974783

What happened to that guy who sets up the spam bot with korone images any time someone says something they don't like about Gura?

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24974791

>>24974654
She's pretty confident at calling others virgin losers

>> No.24974840

>>24974791
posting a gura pic on a room mate soundpost isn't as subtle as you think it is.

>> No.24974885

>>24974840
It wasn't intended to be subtle. You people are so ass hurt over what you claim to be nothing.

>> No.24974943

>>24974885
if it's nothing then why not post the correct image?

>> No.24974955

Gura is trapped by the shark. Its such s great and iconic design she cannot escape it. Mori also has a great design, but she clearly prefers her other persona, so Cover had to give her preferential treatment so she doesn't run away.

>> No.24974968

>>24974943
Because it's funnier to imagine she said it as Gura

>> No.24975018

>people stop replying to gura lazy bait
>start posting rm shit
pathetic

>> No.24975083

gura retweeting and shit. likely to be a stream today.

>> No.24975129

>corpo vtuber who gets a guaranteed paycheck
why are we surprised she isn't streaming that much?

>> No.24975131

>>24975083
correction, is a stream today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k49Yn5n6NrE

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24975321

>>24975131
Based shark with more sponsored short streams

>> No.24975330

>>24975131
oh, likely sponsored. nice though I was wondering what happened when the game didn't show up on steam about an hour ago. It's there now.

>> No.24975346

>comes back for a shill stream
she truly sees streaming as nothing but a job

>> No.24975359

>>24975131
>another shill stream
I mean, I know she loves Miku but come on now.

>> No.24975381

>>24975321
>>24975330
>>24975346
>>24975359
>getting paid to play her favorite game
sounds pretty based to me

>> No.24975450

>>24975346
I mean she'd play this on PC anyway so may as well take the paycheck

>> No.24975468

>>24975381
the only downside is she has to stream it

>> No.24975489

>>24975018
There are many purged posts in this thread and most of them were not RM stuff but PL things she said or did as a vtuber which happened to be personal despite the fact that it can be considered as produced content. That's somewhat unfortunate because those things helped make sense of current laziness of Gura and what kind of person she is (to an extent).

>> No.24975582

She wants Muse Dash back.
She never recovered from that loss.

>> No.24975834

>>24975359
how can it be a shill stream, retard? it's her favourite game. cry harder niggerfaggot cuz nobody cares.

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24975895

HOLY FUCKING SHILL STREAM. FUCK OFF GURA

>> No.24975954

>the anti narrative now changes to shill posting
kek, might as well give up. chumbies will stop biting now that their oshi is going to stream. go make another mori thread or something. cuckbeats always bite.

>> No.24976212

>>24964501
learn English

>> No.24976269
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>It's not a shill stream REEE
>Literal sponsored link in description

Some faggots in pre chat are also stating that she removed the #ad not so long ago. Wtf?

>> No.24976341
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Chumbies...

>> No.24977199

is this the beginning of the downfall?

>> No.24977349

Quality>Quantity

>> No.24977436

>>24977349
Again with this cope?

>> No.24978420

>>24976269
he's right

>> No.24979150

>>24960119
She needs correction.

>> No.24979174
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>>24960119

>> No.24979319

>>24960244
Gura is the most normalfag bitch in the world what are you talking about

>> No.24979344

>>24961877
"Body shaming"?? Go back to Twitter already

>> No.24979379

She's too rich, streaming is a hobby

>> No.24979406

>>24960886
I hate faggots like this

>> No.24979655

>>24960119
Yes. She hates uer fans too.

>> No.24983050

>>24960119
yes

>> No.24983084

>>24983050
you just couldn't let it die huh... faggot.

>> No.24983157

>>24960119
I don't see a photo of Mori.

>> No.24983299

>>24976341
He's not wrong tho

>> No.24983661

dude the fact that anons have pics of gura in different hair colors, whilst I have that same pic everyone knows after 2 years of searching,

makes me so jealous its crazy

>> No.24983927

>>24975129
There's no such thing as a guaranteed paycheck, retard. If you don't work you don't get given paychecks. Whether it's a wage or salary is irrelevant. Salaried people are usually expected to work tons of overtime and at stupid hours.

>> No.24983953

>>24983927
you don't know as much about the corporate world as you think you do wagie.

>> No.24984068

Gura's problem isn't some retarded rrats of deep psychology or anything like that. It's something much more common and simple and almost all entertainers and content creators fall victim to it - she became a professional. Early Gura was very much herself and was an amateur, and so was the overall feeling of early HoloEN and NijiEN. These girls got into something new in the West and approached it with worry, fear, but also innocent interest and can do attitude that is typical of beginners in anything when they're interested. You yourself and me experienced this at a new job, the start of a new hobby or whatever other new thing you tried out. But gradually you become good at it and you lose that initial edge and rely on autopilot since you learned enough for it to exist. It becomes a reflex to do the "thing" no matter what it is.

Gura won over her audience because she was just herself. And her person was amazing. As time went on she found herself winning in all aspects as a chuuba, and at a certain point it dawned on her that she is now a professional. And that makes all the difference. The approach to streaming has changed completely, and as a consequence so did the special relationship between herself and her audience. The emotional resonance is almost completely gone. She has become television - there is no meaningful interaction occurring between herself and chat and no matter what you say it'll just get drowned in a sea of meaningless chat shitposts and emojis. She is a victim of her own success, and this puts a gulf between her and us. I stress that this isn't her fault explicitly but seems to happen to every entertainer after they hit a certain threshold and become a "celebrity" or somewhat beyond reproach.

The sad consequence of this is that as mentioned she doesn't really connect with her audience anymore because she CANNOT - she is too big and there's too many of us, and this eventually means her content just isn't the same as the initial draw made it. She is less herself and more a pro, doing pro things, having pro knowledge of streaming. And that is sterile and meaningless and only entertains normalfaggots, who are simply drawn to popular things because they are popular rather than having any authentic love. And this in turn pushes away the initial core fanbase even further away because communication with normalfaggots is meaningless and empty. The same thing happened to /vt/ as well. This is a shit board of SEA trolls, kiwifarm faggots and dramafags. Actual fans of vtubing have nothing to do here. It's impossible to discuss vtubers here.

Finally the inevitable happens, and it's happening to me. I find myself watching Gura only until another much smaller chuuba starts streaming, because there there's actual interaction and emotional resonance. The "moe" appeal of being a starry eyed fan of vtubing, Miku, weebery and so on is now wholly gone from Gura. She's a pro. And as such she is uninteresting and corporate in the worst way.

>> No.24984327

>>24960886
So in other terms, shes the perfect person to be a saviorfag for, right?

>> No.24984361

>>24984327
if you want to saviorfag her, be ready for a LOT of frustration.

>> No.24984451

>>24983661
That's because those pics aren't even her...

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>>24984068
Can anything be done then?

>> No.24984657

>>24984607
Well, no. It's as inevitable as the changing of the seasons or the ticking of a clock. It just happens. Nobody is to blame.

>> No.24984678

>>24984068
>t. never gets his chats read
thats about all i got out of that spiel

>> No.24984714

>>24984068
This is basically how I feel about her karaokes. There have been very few standout performances lately.

>> No.24984780

>>24960119
Gura loves me. I love her and streams. Therefore she loves streaming and me.

>> No.24985019

>>24960505
>scat
Wait, really?

>> No.24985065

>>24985019
no, not really. the only two fetishes that are pretty much a given are feet and smell. she baits others like piss and diapers but i wouldn't go so far as to say they're actually fetishes for her.

>> No.24987942

>>24985065
Amesame scat hot. Imagine Amelia shitting down Gura's throat while she touches her wet shark pussy.

>> No.24988215

>>24987942
I hate to say that this shit turns me on. Fuck gura, she made me aware of all of my fetishes

>> No.24988334

>>24988215
>>24987942
Scat is hot, but pissfags where?

>> No.24990265

>>24960505
>>is ponyfag
A girl liking MLP is normal, anon. Its the men who are freaks.

>> No.24990565

>>24990265
Stop trying to normalize MLP fags.

>> No.24990636

>>24990565
girls liking ponies IS normal though. have you ever interacted with a female in your life?

>> No.24991058

>>24990636
I don't usually speak with girls under 18, but I bet you do pretty often, am I right, chumpedo?

>> No.24991151

>>24991058
straight into the non-sequitur. you guys are too predictable. try changing it up a bit sometimes.

>> No.24991224

>>24964501
I can see your point, Kiara must have seen a lot of disgusting weeb in all the cosplay conventions she has been

>> No.24991453

>>24960119
She's streaming right now you antis.

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>>24960119
I've seen a few of these types of threads recently, so I decided it'd be fun to do a quick comparison.

1. Amelia: 0.9 videos uploaded per day
2. Baelz: 0.89 videos uploaded per day
3. Kiara: 0.86 videos uploaded per day
4. Cali: 0.76 videos uploaded per day
5. Fauna: 0.7 videos uploaded per day
6. Mumei: 0.68 videos uploaded per day
7. Ina: 0.65 videos uploaded per day
8. IRyS: 0.58 videos uploaded per day
9. Kronii: 0.56 videos uploaded per day
10. Gura: 0.55 videos uploaded per day
11. Sana: 0.4 videos uploaded per day

This is hardly a perfect system, of course, since it doesn't consider collabs and unarchived content, nor does it consider average stream length.

>> No.24996503

>>24996411
>ame somehow has the lowest ccv (excluding sana) despite doing the most streams
sadge

>> No.24996609

>>24960119
She hates grays and prefers to stream for members.

>> No.24996632

>>24996503
Absence makes the heart grow fonder.

>> No.24996665

>>24996609
based shark supporting the superior greenskins

>> No.24996846

>>24996411
>Active Tier
Ame
Baelz
Kiara

>Average Tier
Cali
Fauna
Mumei
Ina

>Lazy Tier
IRyS
Kronii
Gura

>Sana Tier
Sana

Keep this in mind next time you shitpost about someone's oshi, /vt/...

>> No.24997974

Stupid Gooba, I just wanted her to play Levan Polkka on the Miku stream and she didn't. RRREEEEEEEE

>> No.24998129

Feels more like she regrets getting into this job.

>> No.24998205

>>24998129
when you realize that what used to be your passion has become just a job it can be very demoralizing.

>> No.24998348

>>24960119
She just messaged me that Mumei's gonna visit her sometime next next week and that she'll be busy cleaning the house.

>> No.24999111

The sheer amount of indignant seethe this dumb shark causes could probably power your shitty third world countries for a year.

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