/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>That moment you realize every JP holo literally knew eachother from way before hololive and a lot of them were friends for years
>That moment you realize Hololive is run by nepotism

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
That's like Mori's eyes at 25% panic

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
You just realized now

[Anonymous No.]

Nepotism exists everywhere. Hololive was never an exception.

[Anonymous No.]

Nepotism is very common in every industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
Knowing that a good amount of them are friends makes it more enjoyable to me. The genuine interactions and all that. Seeing friends have fun together just makes me happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
Nepotism = family
Technically, the word you guys are thinking of is "cronyism"

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
>that moment when you realize all their old channels and videos are still up, and some of them showed their face and bodies

[Anonymous No.]

Some degree of nepotism is good when you have so many open interactions as vtubers do. Beats all of the intercompany yabs in Niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2498605
internal, not intercompany

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
Nepotism with family members is not the same as you know talented people and recommend them for jobs anon. Friends get friends jobs all the time this way. Gamers was the most successful Hololive unit with no duds unlike previous generations precisely because Fubuki got the talented people she knew on board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
>nepotism = bad

[Anonymous No.]

Never been to Japan huh? OBs and OGs everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
Welcome to 2019, and how most companies that are start ups in the world usually work

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
Anon, it's not even as malicious as you make it out to sound. Even without the collab/social aspect of vchuubas, just imagine you're management. You post a job listing and get a stack of applications that meet the requirements. You have more qualified applicants than positions available. Would you rather take your chance on a literal who, or the person that one of your current, well-performing employees vouches for as a good hire? It's largely why connections are so valuable IRL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2498587
This isn't cronyism if they a lot of them were actual colleagues who were in the same music cover circles. There's covers on NND with holo pairs that people wouldn't dream actually sang together before.

[Anonymous No.]

The word you should use is chronic autism

[Anonymous No.]

The only downside about cronysm/nepotism in hololive is a really talented girl losing her spot because a friend of a friend of an actual hololive idol got recommended... but other than that i think it really helps the flow of the collab streams that they know eachother so well

[Anonymous No.]

The great "Nico Nico Inner Circle" is not a narrative and was never a narrative.
Some of these girls have been content creators upwards of over a decade dating as far back as late 2000s so of course they're going to acknowledge others who make their way into the circle.
There's not many of these people in HL who weren't involved because they were either too young (Haato), doing something different (Shion was a twitcaster) or is a literal who (Roboco)
By the way she also extends into Holostars as well. Many of them are friends from NicoNico

[Anonymous No.]

>>2499092
By the way this*

[Anonymous No.]

>>2499092
Also this extends very far into other vtuber agencies as well, especially Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
nepotism or not hololive got so many homeruns talents

[Anonymous No.]

>>2498633
Agreed, this seems more like networking than nepotism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
nepotism is favoring family or friends over more competent candidates. There was no competition at the time and they were competent for the job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
Early on, it's less risky to take in known talents vs processing via auditions.

[Anonymous No.]

Do people not know how the entertainment industry works? It's all networking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2499082
>The only downside about cronysm/nepotism in hololive is a really talented girl losing her spot because a friend of a friend of an actual hololive idol got recommended.
We will never know if this is really the case or any example whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
>Realize knowing someone gives you better chance at getting a job with them.
>Realize that people prefer to hire a known element instead of some anon.
>Realize this is how the world works and always has worked.
This is what you get for having no friends.

[Anonymous No.]

Not everyone in hololive was an utaite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2499729
Not just the entertainment industry, that's how most industries work (at least in some form).

[Anonymous No.]

>>2499082
If she was really talented there are other spots open for her? There's 5 spots every generation.

[Anonymous No.]

>hiring people you know, like, and trust is bad
>you must only work with foreigners
Nepotism is a natural behavior that you've been taught to hate by jews.

[Anonymous No.]

If only that were the case for the EN branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>2499946
>jews would recommend their friends for the ovens during ww2 while working as concentration camp guards
Sneaky jews

[Anonymous No.]

>>2500203
completely disagree, I think part of EN's success is that their members are both quite different from each other and varied, while also having good gen UNITY and cohesion

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck it’s all an act then...
Every interaction...
If they know each other well then every outcome is already expected...
Collabs aren’t genuine...
Now that I think about it I’ve heard holos mention scripts quite often...
It’s a tough pill to swallow but I think it might all be fake...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2500402
>tough pill to swallow
I hope those pills are your meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>2500402
Anon...everything in this world is predetermined...even what you posted just now. It was planned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
do you even understand the meaning of "nepotism" you fucking dumb mutt cunt

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
I'm pretty sure most of the jobs in entertainment are gained through nepotism. Especially in animation, where a large majority of industry professionals came from the same two art schools.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2500203
Don't worry Mori's getting at least 2 of her friends into VSingers / gen 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2500713
this but entirely unironically

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
>people interested in vtubing, live streaming knew each other
wow great fucking revelation anon

[Anonymous No.]

Mutts are always projecting. Whats sad is Amerimutts don't even understand where a small campany or an indie group always started their activity from anymore. The mutt brain only thinks about some dumb Amerimutt community with twatter dramas or funded hipster indies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2500402
>>2500713

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
So? It's not an NGO or some government agency. Who gives a shit? Wait until you find out how all of entertainment works.

[Anonymous No.]

Nepotism is good and based though.
The only ones who seethe at the "practice" (actually human nature) are the social rejects who thought they could get away with being emotionally crippled into adulthood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
This would only be a problem if they were incompetent.
The only holo about who I wonder how they fucking got the job is anya. Everyone else knew how to stream and has some form of talent and/or charisma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503301
RIGGER HATE

[Anonymous No.]

>>2498936
>There's covers on NND with holo pairs that people wouldn't dream actually sang together before.
I'm interested, please post 'em.

[Anonymous No.]

you retards don't even know what nepotism is
go back to complaining about niggers and pajeets

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503299
This shit is not even nepotism. Mutts are amazingly too fucking dumb to understand it. For instance, every indie record label used to be run and manged by your friends and friends of friends or some recognised artists/musicians from the same scene. You mutt monkeys are now brain-damaged so hard that you can't even imagine such a thing. So you have to always project modern big company's sjw/globohomo practice on everything. Cover was a small indie group back then that's hardly profitable, but you dumb Amerimutts take it as nepotosm. Even unprofitable indie thingies must be nepotism according to you mutt chimpanzees. Can't even imagine what it is actually like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
It's not just within holos, there are a lot of holo, homos and nijis who have been friends with each other since before vtubers were a thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503491
are you a chink? why are you seething so hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
>Hire a whore that literally sucked dick for vtubing equipment
vs
>Hire a person one of your talents vouches for and has known them for several years
There is a reason why business as new as cover goes for nepotism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503462
t. nigg*r and/or pajeet

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503524
Take a guess, only chinks say "mutt" every other word here, they dont realise that it isnt just burgers that hate them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503574
>nigger and pajeet
explain how this is possible in your head

[Anonymous No.]

You guys really have lost morals for the sake of some fake anime girls huh? nepotism is bad and a net negative. Sure hiring ppl you already know is a good idea but it will lead to
preferential treatment and loss of quality. There's a reason why it's much more common in SEA and Africa than US or Europe. Take the recent VCarnival for example. It was a great concert with top notch equipment but Fubuki kept pushing ppl like Mio, Okayu and Korone instead of actual talented members of Hololive on the stage it just hurt to watch seeing all those stages going to waste

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503605
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddi

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I could just kill people who use words without knowing what they mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503605
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddi

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503524
>>2503595

Hahaha then why are you, as usual, attacking cover and Holo jp based on a totally dumb and baseless speculation, you fucking dumb Chinky chink commie mutt monkeys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2500203
Ame and Gura at least definitely knew each other beforehand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy-sxloPM7s

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
>That moment you realize a holo started ignoring their old friends after getting popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503678
That's just lore fluff. I've heard some people say they were acquainted before and others say no, there certainly isn't any real evidence they were close internet buddies or anything in their prior incarnations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503741
poruka...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503755
>isn't any real evidence
Both Ame and Gura have made sly jokes about it on streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>2498578
This. I'd rather there be actual groups of friends than all of it just for show.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503741
> Yui never forgot her friends
774INC LOVE

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503607
they werent even profitable back then you fucking dumb human garbage. just a fucking small indie group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503607
Fat Amerishart fingers typed this post

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503794
Sorry Tamaki she still plays TRPGs with her gameheaven friends Roberu, Kagami Hayato, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503377
The rigger giving her big tits is the only reason anyone even knows Anya exists

[Anonymous No.]

>>2504178
RIGGER LOVE

[Anonymous No.]

>>2504178
RIGGER HATE

[Anonymous No.]

>>2504178
big tits ruin her design
RIGGER HATE

[Anonymous No.]

>>2504178
RIGGER HATE

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503607
This is why Jews ruled over you. Jews did Nepotism. Whitoid didn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2498587
Nepotism is family and/or friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>2500203
Kiara was a Nico pick
Ame/Gura knew each other and got in both
Mori was a foot into Doujin Music/ J-Rap circle, Cover will definitely use her connections to get more talents
Ina was the strategic artfag pick, she has her own artfag circles cover might mobilize

Of course, HoloMyth isn't a nepotism pick(mostly), but they're the seed for the next generation's actual nepotism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2504841
Kiara was a literal idol

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
>>That moment you realize Hololive is run by nepotism
Now the company has options but back then how else was a small company like Cover going to hire talent like that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
Proof nepotism is good

[Anonymous No.]

>>2504841
>Kiara was a Nico pick
no she applied for the audition herself. she was the biggest fangirl of pekora and she decided it

also nepotism happens when you share your money/benefit from your company with your ilk. otherwise its not even nepotism. even every unprofitable/financially super unstable interaction between your friends is nepotism according to this garbage thread. not only does this garbage eop board lack the basic info about jp vtubers like these human garbage posters dont even know bout the history of holo jp but also lacks the normal knowledge of society.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
Sometimes nepotism works

[Anonymous No.]

>>2505360
Especially when your starting your business. No one experienced is going to join a small start-up

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503897
If you mean the moose stream, that really just shows Ame used to watch Gura (or some clips of her) and they know each other now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
Unless you are a JAV company, you can't get idols outside the street as fast as this.

[Anonymous No.]

Principled individualism is modernists cancer

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive's business model is to hire experienced and successful streamers primarily, so as to shorten the onboarding process and to have a better chance at producing profitable content.

Their business model is also to generally be lazy cunts on the management side, so they leave at least a fair chunk of the recruitment to the roster itself. Ostensibly this would help minimize group friction and maximize group chemistry for collabs and big events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
Think about how many auditions they must get every gen. Now think about how retarded the average wannabe vtuber is. Nobody was ever gonna get in without some networking.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow anon just learned that most startups are born by people who are already successful in the industry

[Anonymous No.]

>>2506033
>Hololive's business model is to hire experienced and successful streamers primarily

and that shit wasnt a thing back then, you human trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>2506122
seethe schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>2506122
Yes, it was. Sora was an established net personality in Japan before Cover even formed Hololive, and all the other talents from the very first generation were already well known from NND, Twitcast, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2506365
no argument. the schizo is you making a garbage rrat without any knowledge of holo jp

[Anonymous No.]

>>2506401
they were just picked, you asshat cunt. cover was trying every way possible to run their business properly. subaru was hired despite having no experience of every kind of internet activity. whats wrong with it? is that "morally wrong", according to you? tell me whats the "morally right" and absolutely fair minded business standard of hiring people? whats your superior company to cover?

im sure as fuck that all of you trying so hard to bash holo jp is either a chink insect or a jealous amerimutt vtwatter cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2506608
seethe schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>2506702
no argument. idk whether you are chink or mutt but you chinks and mutts can gang up with each other and share the same anti japan values. you cant help but attack japanese vtubers and japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>2506608
>Around 40 hololive idols
>Can only give 1 example of being picked with no experience

What's your point?
That outliers exist?
That exceptions exist but aren't the norm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2506608
>they were just picked, you asshat cunt.
Korone explicitly said she didn't even audition.

>cover was trying every way possible to run their business properly.
Cover has a history of fucking up due to laziness. e.g. the loss of tons of archive content last year due to Cover forgetting to pay the licensing fees for a fuckload of music and vidya.

>subaru was hired despite having no experience of every kind of internet activity.
Rare exceptions do not disprove the rule.

>whats wrong with it? is that "morally wrong", according to you? tell me whats the "morally right" and absolutely fair minded business standard of hiring people? whats your superior company to cover?
I never said it was a problem in the first place. Quit putting words in other people's mouths and fuck off to your medicine cabinet where you belong.
>im sure as fuck that all of you trying so hard to bash holo jp is either a chink insect or a jealous amerimutt vtwatter cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2506768
seethe schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>2506811
>Korone explicitly said she didn't even audition.

are you fucking dumb? amazing that you chinks are this fucking dumb. thats the core argument on this tread and what we were talking about, you brainwashed chink vermin. goddamn it you are a pure fucking schizo. what were you even talking then? the point is that was never nepotism. read the thread again

also this board isnt the anti japan board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2498578
But /vt/ told me they all hated each other??

[Anonymous No.]

>>2506811
>Cover has a history of fucking up due to laziness. e.g. the loss of tons of archive content last year due to Cover forgetting to pay the licensing fees for a fuckload of music and vidya

lmao they didn't 'forget' shit. They were intentionally doing this to have an edge over the rivals. A year ago it was so common seeing posts like "Cover is so competent they can get permissions for anything they want"

[Anonymous No.]

>>2506800
motherfucking dumb chink. you cant even move the goalposts. the topic is about their business standards. they had the standards back then. you lump every timeline into the same one timeline. time doesnt work that.

you must be a chink insect. just say "i fucking hate japan and japanese and am absolutely jealous of holo jp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2506973
Re-read the post >>2506033 and try to point out where I said it was a bad thing that Cover hires based on proven talent and networking. Go ahead.

And take your fucking meds while you're at it, you feckless baboon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507111
>standards

It's still a 90%+ rate, that IS standards

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507184
thats not even logic. you are broken, chink insect

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507253
Global rule #2.

[Anonymous No.]

Nepotism is a good thing, the people who have convinced people it's a bad thing are just people who don't want others to be nepotistic while they continue to be nepotistic themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
But if you're cute enough and prepared to throw your body into that God forsaken Yuri debaucheries you'll immediately accepted as a
"friend" by them, because they are all bored with the members bodies already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507253
>Standard
>1.a level of quality or attainment
>2.an idea or thing used as a measure, norm, or model in comparative evaluations

>Exception
>a person or thing that is excluded from a general statement or does not follow a rule


???
Or are you implying the moment an exception exists, a standard no longer exists?
In either case your demonstrably wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2506973
you seem to be disturbed, have you considered medicating?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507146
lol you werent saying any positive things about holo jp and only shitting on holo management. hard to say its a balanced argument. you were only nitpicking. re-read your typical chinky shitpost again. tell me your mutt or chink company with your superior business standards/model or way of hiring people then, ofc "without nepotism" im stupid so i cant understand it without you superior realistic business model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507439
>im stupid
You could have just admitted this from your first post and saved yourself and everyone else a lot of time, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

why is this schizo so mad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507412
so as expected, you were chink. this board is totally infested by chink virus

>>2507359
>>2507323
so when will you support taiwan and grow out of ccp propaganda. just say "we hate japan so fucking much and are jealous as fuck of holo jp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507507
>chink this
>chink that
rent free, take your meds schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507473
yes so please tell me the details of your "morally superior" business standards and your morally superior company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507539
if you werent chink you wouldnt reply like that. you however are actually a chink bug so cant know it

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507507
Aren't you the same guy who accused the other one of having no argument and resorting to ad hom yet you pull the same shit here?

Please take your meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507597
meds, anon, stat!
I am not even the one you were schizoposting about
just proving that you let chinks live free

[Anonymous No.]

Are you people such NEETs that you haven't heard about networking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507597
Calling everyone else chink and bug while typing like an ESL isn't going to make your false-flagging any less obvious, zhang.

[Anonymous No.]

Did you all newfags just learn the meaning of nepotism? It's literally the only word I've been seeing lately, you better start getting some new arguments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507641
hahaha i would kill myself if i had to live as a chink insect or would 100% support taiwan and coco out of duty

[Anonymous No.]

I think if I am anti social I am professionally fucked right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507698
still defending chinks lmao. again, if you werent chink or a mutt sjw you wouldnt defend chinks at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507791
more or less yeah, unless you're an autistic savant

[Anonymous No.]

Recommending someone for a job isn't nepotism.
A recommendation is only a recommendation, the company still has to review you even if they don't interview you or audition you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507343
it's yuribait, most of them are completely straight.

[Anonymous No.]

that's japan for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507743
then why are you still alive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
And that's a good thing!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507791
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
Japan is a small and cramped place

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507791
This world was made by normalfags, being autist is suffering

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507791
Yes pretty much

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507872
bc im not chink. now chinks are starting to shit up this thread pretending to be a unique poster. one would realise all of these posts are anti japan. none of them are countering it.

>>2507863
this chink thread is literally for you chink insects.

[Anonymous No.]

Of course.
When people said that Vtubing is like pro wrestling, they were being pretty spot on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2508031
>chink thread
Nah, just a tourist thread. Better a tourist than an insect hivemind like you, Mr. slave to commie in chief Xinnie Jhin Poohng.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2507791
At least get some friends anon, 4 or 5 is good enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2508104
lmao still defending chinks lol chinks like you only attack japan. so its too obvious. although you could be a mutt sjw shitting on japan 24/7 like typical virtue signalling woke cunts on twatter

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503301
Well she is trilingual if iirc, but it doesn't feel enough, but I thought the same about Towa and then I tealized why Yagod chose her after her 3D debut, so there ight be another reason that we still have not seen yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>2504723
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503377
>>2504213
>>2504264
>>2504578
THE RIGGER IS A FUCKING GOD AMONG MEN
ANYA'S FAT TITS ARE HUMANITY'S MAGNUM OPUS

[Anonymous No.]

>>2508170
Falseflaggerchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2508031
you type like a chink, you seethe like one
the only other thing you could be other than chink, would be a fucking indog

[Anonymous No.]

>>2508244
i just hate both chinks and mutt sjws. they share the same anti japan values and commie dogma, are absolutely censorship happy brainwashed control freaks. hating both today is a pretty normal thing if you arent either of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2508269
tell me why you "cant" defend japan, and defend chinks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2504841
>Mori was a foot into Doujin Music/ J-Rap circle
That foot was enough to be reference. Mori worked on a project that on the previous year had contributions from Suisei and Kanata. If her CV came up, there were at least two holos who could call a mutual friend and offer a recommendation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503636
You are a big dummy. I bet you have depression ha ha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2508337
who are you quoting, schizo?
>>2508240
dogshit, fat is justice

[Anonymous No.]

>>2508473
>fat is justice
but there are no fat holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>2508499
ups, flat*

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503458
Not him but Towa knew Mio from before, she's one of the few that call her Mio-chan, even though she's technically her senpai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2508473
literally you. none of chinky shitposters here are defending japan. you just say "im not chink" but you still cant defend japan. shit like this only comes from a chink insect or a mutt sjw and both of them are just commie ideologues who hate japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2508563
again, where did I say that?
stop seething indog/chink and take your meds

[Anonymous No.]

>nepotism
You mean self-interest? Yeah, and it's good

[Anonymous No.]

>>2508596
so you are just the japan hater. fuck off . why are you even here. this isnt an anti-japan site. its a site to enjoy japanese culture. neither a chink culture or an american sjw culture except for /co/.

if you want to spam anti japan propaganda, just go to red/it or resetera. dont shit up a thread with your garbage anti-japan bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2508736
seriously, what the fuck are you talking about?
who are you quoting, what the fuck are you seething about
you should really take your meds, I recommend a noose around your neck

[Anonymous No.]

>>2508845
you still cant utter a single short positive thing about japan. you cant even pretend. your anti japan hate is too deep. go back to re/dit or resetera. although even those sites rarely have anti-japan posts on their vtuber threads but still they are your safespaces. this chink infested board is actually even embarrassing given the fact anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
It's a nip company what'd you expect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2509100
quote a single time I said I hate japan
seriously, take your meds, not as a joke, you really need them

[Anonymous No.]

>>2509148
Anon, stop replying to schizo. They can't be reasoned with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
Nepotism is bad but this is networking not nepotism

[Anonymous No.]

>>2509148
this thread is actually an anti japan thread though. you cant deny it. its an /int/ tier autistic chinky thread full of chink shills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2514406
It's anti-japan because the newfag kids here don't know how corporations and business work, and I mean all around the job not only on there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2514902
all around the world* sorry, I'm having a stroke from reading this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
welcome to the real world kiddo, it's like that for every business, industry and profession. If you know someone it's 10 times easier or more to get your foot in the door

[Anonymous No.]

>>2514902
still its fucking ridiculous. it might be because of the ultra progressive modern american education but it creeps me out that all these faggots are so desperate to virtue signal without understanding/researching any background or history, even though this is 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503755
Newfag-chama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2503377
>>2504213
>>2504264
>>2504578
>>2508473
take your meds flatty

[Anonymous No.]

Nepotism is based and its the reason why hololive is better than nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2497883
>>2515646
Nepotism is essential for gatekeeping the retards out, especially western twitter cancer

[Anonymous No.]

>>2508240
RIGGER HATE

[Anonymous No.]

>>2515681
what part of holo jp was nepotism, dumb mutt?

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>>2516016
my dick, only holos familiar with my dingdong can enter

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>>2503607
Based.

Don't believe anyone on 4chan that pretends they have a semblance of morality for a second. You people are all fuckin slimeballs that only care about what you get regardless of how you get it.

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>>2516593
>t.

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>>2506401
>Sora was an established net personality
This isn't true at all. There's zero verified info on who she was before she joined hololive.

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Holy shit, how many of you have an actual job. This isn't nepotism, this is networking. The HR in all the company I worked for always asked for recommendations. One of them even gave a 5000€ bonus if someone we recommend was hired.

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I got my current job trough nepotism
so you friendless incels can seethe all you want

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>>2497883
>Nepotism in a collaboration/popularity based corporation.

Ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooooooooooooooooo whatever shall we doooooooooooo?!?!?!

Also, Meds OP.

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>>2507096
anonchama this place is full of autists who no social skills. They intepret simply teasing as deep insults.

t.retarded autist

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That isn't nepotism, that's good networking. Nepotism is when you get the job you normally would not be qualified for because of your family connections.

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>>2518063
Networking is developing social connections for the sake of professional reasons and we know these bitches aren't professional.

Nepotism is literally just hey, here's my friend. give friend job. No interview or a mock interview, just here, it's yours.

https://youtu.be/07WAuntNHTo?t=27

I wonder why that sounds familiar.

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Retarded 12 year olds once again keep confusing cronyism with nepotism.

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>>2519318
unless its profitable it cant be nepotism. hololive sucked back then. they didnt believe it could last for a year as miko mentioned.

>>2518063
yea good networking or its just a normal "circle" thing. but these amerimutts are deeply brainwashed in some way. probably due to twatter politics and its dramas

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>>2515646
Many nijisanji joined by nepotism retard.

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no matter how people see it, nepotism will always exist because at a certain level (meaning pretty much anything above a minimum-wage job) hiring a literal who instead of people your already established employees can vouch for is risky business

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>>2519357
Retarded 12 year old doesn't even know the definition of cronyism. It applies to positions of authority dipshit. not being a dog girl on the internet. Nepotism is more applicable because it can apply to favoritism based on friendship.
>>2519399
Doesn't matter?

It happened regardless and they're big now. They're still blatantly playing favorites.

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>>2519896
you are absolutely dumb. your definition of "nepotism" is simply wrong. they are big "now"? lmao. the fuck is that time-warping bullshit. its not even logical thinking, tranny

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>>2519999
Your definition of croynism is a political thing, nepotism is a private thing. either can cover different types of relationships but the favoritism is the issue and you'd rather obfuscate that than admit it's the problem.

YES they are big now, the problem with favoritism isn't just getting the job dipshit, it's that it influences all of your choices moving forward, it's not just about getting hired and you get stuck in the hired box forever where you influence literally nothing.

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>>2519839
it's responsible for just as many bankruptcies as those who don't hire "special" folks who then know they cannot be fired.

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>>2517359
you know there's stuff like Miko recommending Peko and there's Fubuki adding 4 of her friends at once as the Gamers Branch, while excluding Aqua, the actual gamer. Different things

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>>2503755
He lacks critical information....

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>>2520372
Well the gamer thing was different since it was initially her trying to get her friend Mio, who got her friend Okayu who got her friend Korone. Fubuki just joined that brand to give it a headstart and associate with her friend so of course Aqua wouldn't join in the same way.
These days the big 5th gamer is Subaru, since Okayu befriended her and has gotten her into vidya and anime.

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>>2520135
Do you even know what actual non-commercial indie activity is like. According to you, every kind of indie activity must be nepotism or croynism. If you run an indie video game company and make an indie game, hiring your friends, it must be nepotism according to your definition because this is what Hololive was actually doing back then. Also you and many others itt are intentionally totally ignoring the fact that Hololive was just a very small business.

Im assuming you are American but you have a really weird left idea like class struggle or something. They are big bc the 2nd generation and the gamers dedicated themselves to making their contents better, improving themselves as vtubers, and were/are actually talented workers. They made it big but you are totally ignoring the history and the process. Its really fucking bizarre. You all seem to deny their efforts talents and achievements.

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>>2520710
That is nepotism but it isn't a bad thing because it could fizzle out, if you reach a point where your success matters it will begin infecting your business like a virus because as things grow the downsides of them become harder to manage.

Nobody cares if you don't have star wars on opening night if you're a struggling mom and pop movie theatre but if you're a nationwide brand and you can't get it to all your theatres on opening night you are fucked. The greater the scale the more mistakes matter and nepotism is a series of mistakes, not just a single mistake that happens once and goes away.

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>>2497883
>that moment when you dont follow corpo scum

the more free the tuber the better the content

remember taiwan?

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>>2504841
>Mori was a foot into Doujin Music/ J-Rap circle

They already have Azki for that

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>>2520897
Thats "your" definition. Seems you dont have any experience of making indie stuff with your friends or someone else. The viewers Tokino Sora got in her first stream in September 2017 are only 13 people. Fucking 13 viewers. Shouldnt they get any more viewers?

https://news.goo.ne.jp/article/excitereview/entertainment/excitereview-20190307002.html

Go outside and interact with actual people. Stay away from Twatter and its bullshit. Nobody can start "one man" indie activity. You are just talking about your dream or something without any social experience.

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>>2520897
so google, facebook, apple are all nepotism because they all started in a garage with friends?

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>>2521347
>>2521371
It is still nepotism. Nepotism doesn't grant you instant success and it isn't bad in the vacuum of being a nobody, it's something that gets worse as you grow through prominence because you are going to keep choosing friends and making decisions based on friendships moving forward because you are inherently defining your business through biased decision-making.

Networking is a better long-term practice because you aren't just making social connections and making decisions based purely on that, you're making professional decisions with some social backing.

Google, Facebook and Apple are rampantly corrupt and don't respect anyones privacy, security, time-investment or really anything. You're kind of proving my point by pointing at disgustingly amoral companies that got started through personal bias.

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>>2521618
so, instead of making it big with my 3 friends at a startup
I must go to some randoms and hire them and shun my fiends away because some time in the future being friends with someone is going to cause a downfall of the company?

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>>2521657
Not randoms but professionals in your field.

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>>2521668
I guess we know you have 0 friends and are underage retard who has no idea how the world works, glad we could conclude on that

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>>2521693
I don't mean literal professionals, literally people in the field that you can find.

you go to college to meet these people, you hand out business cards to get your foot in the door. These are people that you need to reach out to because your friends are bullshit.

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>>2521782
>>2521693
grow up before you talk to me ever again

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>>2521803
You're so confident and so fucking stupid simultaneously because you only talk to liek 5 people and call them your friends.

You know they don't give a shit about you and only tell you what you want to hear right?

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>>2521844
>>2521803

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>>2521668
>professionals in your field.
If you're a random starting a vtuber agency from scratch just get your friends and people you know as your Gen0. Nepotism is your best choice here

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>>2522008
It's your best choice in the short-term, not the long-term because you're making personal decisions not professional ones and that shades things moving forward.

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peko aqua collab when

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>>2522041
you need to grow out of your 15 year old cynicism faze
I trust my friends, who has as much interest in the company as I do, to say that I am doing retarded shit when I am doing retarded shit.
some rando "professional" who is there, hired be me, answering to me, my employee, wont say anything bad because he is there purely because he fear he can be fired at any second telling me things I don't like, he clock out at 5 and collects his salary, doing minimal amount of work, just to get by. He doesn't care about the company, he is just another hire.
your world view is as flawed as your own underage mind, grow up, get some friends

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>>2522305
I DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL SHIT.

I AM TALKING ABOUT HOLOLIVE AND NEPOTISM. THAT'S IT.

You know your own situation better than anyone else here including me. "I trust my friends" what the fuck am I even supposed to say to that? "You don't actually trust your friends!"


Just stop.

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>>2506105
>that image
>when gooruh eats the watamelon in one bite

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>>2522586
all this rage
it seems like you've got some growing up to do

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Towa, Okayu, Mio, Korone all know each other from previous stuff BARELY COLLAB

Marine and Polka good friends both also friends with Tamaki NOPE LOL

Kiara's raison d'etre and oshi is Pekora ONE FUCKING COLLAB

Risu's raison d'etre and oshi is Korone ONE FUCKING COLLAB

Honestly knowing sometimes makes it worst, I get that off screen they're are already chill because of said connection but I WANT TO SEE IT ON SCREEN, FUCK !

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>>2522634
ok, boomer

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>>2507791
Yes. Master the fuck out of a niche skill or you'll be fucking doomed. The hierarchy for success in this world is sociopaths > normies > autists.

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>>2499092
Korone and Kiara both having interacted with Hiroyuki is fucking hilarious to me

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>>2508269
He is INdog, it's not even that hard to figure out

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Imagine crying about Korone getting in without an audition when she's arguably one of the most successful members because she's universally charismatic and entertaining

Who gives a shit about being "talented", skill alone won't make you entertaining. Yes it'll help but it doesn't make you an interesting personality

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>>2521803
Take your meds

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>>2523375
switching to your phone?
pathetic

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>>2522980
This does sound hilarious, can you elaborate?

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>>2497883
How fucking new?

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Are you surprised?

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>>2523494
Same niconico talk show

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>>2523208
>universally charismatic
except she isnt she was a sperg spilling spaghetti for the longest time. I still love her though and am glad she is getting better at dealing with people outside of her circle of friends.

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>>2520457
>Mio, who got her friend Okayu
I guess I'm missing something, but is there any proof of them actually being old friends? I'm aware of the NND karaoke video but being at an event together isn't exactly proof of friendship.

If anything Mio was actually closer to Korone since they actually did a cover together.

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>>2525144

Yeah she settled into her role very well but it's hard to believe she had universal appeal at all

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If Hololive is nepotism, then explain Nene.

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>>2525844
Nene hacked Yagoo's daughter's (Sora's, meidos pls don't ban me) computer

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>>2506105
successful people are successful, wow that seems like capitalist propaganda to me

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>>2497883
So this is the newfag thread?

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>>2521668
If only there was some way to know professionals in your field, and get to trust them and their work ethic/style... I really don't know how, it must be magic

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>>2522920
anon, you must be 18 years or older to post here
Jokes aside, a job interview can only tell you so much - and besides, who better to know the required work ethic, style, and talents of a streamer than another streamer themselves? Yagoo I'm sure would know how to hire someone competent for software development in a VR tech company, but he knows shit about being a live-streamer compared to someone like Fubuki

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>>2507791
work on your social skills - they're skills like any other, they require practice. Good luck anon

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>>2507791
I failed my thesis because I am socially awkward. You definitely need it.

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>>2525844
Nene has voice actress credits to a failed idol project that had a VN
And she's stubborn and believed she was destined to be in Hololive
Turns out she was right

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>>2525844
Nene refused to have her birthright denied.

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>>2497883
there isn't anything wrong with nepotism

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>>2519457
I wouldnt know. I dont watch niji because I'm not brain dead.

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>>2527076
>>2527280
She auditioned 5 times to get into hololive, I kneel

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polka, roberu, kira and suzaku are good firends. they made ashita ga arusa cover and it was amazing

polka, mio, towa and astel doing group cover song together and they did at least 3 live concert together

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>>2521371
There's a lot of nepotism involved in these companies, usually on the familial level. Just look at Google and Youtube and how Susan's sister is married to Sergei Brin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayRT5iaAt-o
These Joos are brazen as fuck.

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>>2508561
Kanata calls a lot of her senpai -chan when she's face to face in offcollabs. She never calls Suisei or Marine senpai afaik

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>>2522758
I feel like Polka is pretending her life didn't exist pre-Hololive. She's gone out of her way to ignore her past chuuba connections and friendships.

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>>2503631
>>2503622
thank you

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but...anons...pekomoona i-is genuine r-right??

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>>2522758
>Okayu, Mio, Korone
those three collab frequently tho

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>>2526734
Explain

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>>2503607
Best Post ITT I bet most of these people scoffed at the idea of watching female streamers. but put them behind a anime avatar and sex appeal and suddenly its so amazing and perfect. your all a bunch of idiots

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>>2498593
>that moment when you realize some of them do hostess/callgirl side gigs because of easy money and because they don't have much time to keep up a relationship

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>>2503607
>>2533179
unironically cringe opinions

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>>2503607
>nepotism is bad
No it isn't
It's much better if they're actually friends and get along when they collab
Nepotism isn't even bad for regular companies either

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>>2533459
>Nepotism isn't even bad for regular companies either
hmmm

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>>2533459
Nepotism tends to be worse when it's actual family members.
If Nepotism just means you skip the initial audition but you're still checked to make sure you can do the job then it's not bad.
If thanks to nepotism the incompetent, drug addicted manlet son of the boss gets a high ranking job and then proceeds to do zero work and throw tantrums fits daily then that's bad.

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>>2533560
All companies are built on neoptism, without exception. Pointing out some example of a company gone wrong means nothing. Humans are social creatures, companies are about working with other humans, it makes perfect sense to hire people you get along with. And if you hire your friends who are incompetent, your company goes under and leaves room for more competent companies to take their place, that's captialism in action

[Anonymous No.]

this thread stinks of people who graduated college with 0 connections so they claim that networking 101 is the devil
grow up

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>>2533694
yes you are right, should have changed the filename to nepotism done wrong

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>>2533747
Blizzard's decline has nothing to do with nepotism, anyone who thinks that has no idea what it's like on the inside

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>>2533779
except they started hiring and giving power to family and friends who had no idea about anything related to their games or even games

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>>2533779
Blizzard's decline is because the next gen taking over can't design games for shit for the most part. There's almost nobody left from the old days of Blizzard. Every founder except Samwise is gone and Samwise just does concept art.

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>>2533850
Other way around, the people from the old days left Blizzard BECAUSE the company was failing

[Anonymous No.]

>>2525410
Open up baby, here comes the plane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07WAuntNHTo

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>>2533922
i probably just found out the reason why i barely give a fuck about those 3 on the left

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>>2516760
she literally preformed live as a real life idol

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>>2533922
>>2520457
gamers was cover bowing to fbk and letting her do what she wants because she was carrying the company anonchama

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>>2536552
I trust my friend

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Yeah no shit. Also it's not so much nepotism, but Clover sweeping up all the streams worth a shit.

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>>2497883
and this is supposed to be a bad thing? You're just seething because you're an urbanite with no connection to the land you're currently living, friends that would support you, nor an extended family to lean on

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>>2503794
How long is she planning to ignore Tamaki. Will they ever interact on stream again? Did they break up or are they just scared of retards going "hime" in chat?

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>>2497883
Streamers in jp way back had smaller circles which made it easier to meet other streamers and such. so you shouldn't be surprised if they already knew/familiar with eachother. chances are they've encountered them in passing or in irl meetings.

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>>2536782
Go back retard

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>>2503605
Literally the vice president of the United States, anon.

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>>2517359
Based, this thread is full of seething neets anyways.

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>>2539001
have friends

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>>2533728
No, I’m not posting in this thread, I’m watching Suisei.