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25586435 No.25586435 [Reply] [Original]

ITT: vtubers who are only in it for the money

>> No.25586510

>>25586435
So the fact that they aren't struggling for money is why they aren't in it at all? You might as well add the rest of EN as well and many in JP.

>> No.25586560

Is this a Kiara thread?

>> No.25586561

>People in a career path get paid.
I'm shocked.

>> No.25586702

Literally everyone in EN is in it for the money only other than Ina and Kiara. It's why people like Fauna and Mumei, whose PLs were known to be firmly against parasocial relationships would sell out and join a vtuber idol group agency in the first place.

>> No.25586743

>>25586435
Pretty much all of HoloJP

>> No.25586798

Every single person who does something for a living does it for money

>> No.25586875

>>25586798
NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO DO THINGS BECAUSE YOU ENJOY IT AND THE IF YOU'RE LUCKY. MAYBE GET SOME MONETARY COMPENSATION AFTERWARDS

>> No.25586945

>>25586875
hope you starve to death, homeless bitch

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>> No.25587192

>>25586798
how to spot someone with 0 ambitions or skills and who's never held a job

>> No.25587198

>>25586798
Ehh, not entirely true. If you have enough money, you can do things for fun. For instance, Polka was apparently set before joining Hololive, but joined anyway to keep living her idolfag dreams.

>> No.25587658

Fauna reminds people often to spend the supas on a nice dinner for them instead of on her stream

>> No.25587746

>>25587192
work for me for free anon
youll be paid in experience and exposure

>> No.25587792

>>25586702
Is it really selling out if they still refuse to have a relationship with their fans?

>> No.25587834

>>25586798
>>25587192

>> No.25587905

>>25587746
When I work for free I only do it for myself or family. Friends get a discount.

>> No.25588006

>>25586798
This isn't even remotely true and and one of the most retarded things anyone's ever said on here. You've clearly never had a job. Your statement is so retarded it purposely omits all people who do things explicitly for money (including many Holos) who aren't working for a living at all but just to collect some free money. People who are working for a living are the only ones getting paid to do something who aren't doing it for money.

>> No.25588261

>>25586561
>>25586798
>>25586875
There is a difference between doing as little as possible and making content with the best effort to money ratio compared to taking it more seriously and putting in more effort even if the monetary reward doesn't increase a huge amount just because you enjoy doing it.

>> No.25588281

>>25588006
yeah and I'm sure your sandwich artist career is your true calling

>> No.25588594

>>25588281
I enjoyed working at a sub job back in the day way more than I enjoy writing software

>> No.25588787

Ayame

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>> No.25593250

>>25588281
i think this idiot is projecting

>> No.25593377

All of them
/thread

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>>25586435
Sana doesn't even stream so she ain't in it for money. The rrat is clearly trying her best to be entertaining as much as she can, and the rest you might be right (i know nothing about the rest)

>> No.25597086

>>25586435
You mean literally all of them? Nobody plays a e-whore for Weeb loser for fun. They do it because this whole board is full of paypigs that have nothing else. I mean what did you expect they are women after all.

>> No.25597121

>>25586435
All of them

>> No.25597141
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>> No.25597209

>>25587140
Correct

>> No.25597249

>>25586435
Only Kronii and Mumei. Sana doesn't need the money and is probably thinking of leaving already. The rat is a holoidol turbonerd and Fauna just seems to enjoy vtubing in general and gets to marry Watame.

>> No.25597263

>>25588281
I would never make food for others no matter how much money you paid me. So for me to even be capable of taking on a sandwich artist career, what would have to change is not a desire for money but a desire to make sandwiches. But the teenager in school who wants some money to buy some video games, he's working that Subway job for money, but he's not working it for a living.

>> No.25597290

>>25597249
>Mumei
she regularly tells people they don't have to superchat, has occasionally just turned them off, and concernfags over people dropping red SCs on her

>> No.25597330

>>25593377
>>25597086
>>25597121
A lot of vtubers aren't in it for the money. Especially the dedicated 2views who keep streaming despite making fucking nothing. You're cynical, childish retards who think money motivates everyone because you can't comprehend that life has any degree of nuance.

>> No.25597389

>>25586510
all of them. who would work that much for no money? who would interact with a bunch of low life weeb for nothing?

>> No.25597441

>>25597389
Many of them are low-life weebs if not even worse. A lot of them are basically just trannies (literally for one in the OP) larping as idols, if they give up the job they go back to a miserable life even if they have money because nobody wants to fertilize their eggs.

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>25587140

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>>25586702
>other than Ina and Kiara.
>Kiara
Good one Anon!

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25597666

Real answer? Literally every single chuuba is in it for the money, most don't get to realize that end goal, but that's why they're doing it, in hopes of getting money

>> No.25597836

>>25586435
All of them.

>> No.25597890

Being in it for the money is an obvious goal for all of the hololive applicants since the 2020 boom. I don't get any of that feeling though from Baelz because of how passionate she is.

>> No.25597983

>>25586435
>In it for the money
>Posts, bar-none, the LAZIEST wave from any corpo or indie group
Christ, imagine if PRISM's or some random Twitch group got the views and aka supas Council gets. They'd be pulling endurance streams every day if not every other and be putting in so much work they'd age 10 years in a year

>> No.25598444

>>25587792
Depends on how you look at Mumei getting closer to her chat after Christmas and especially after April Fool’s. Either she underestimated her own parasocial tendencies and is genuinely lonely and has no social life outside of Hololive, or she arbitrarily decided a third of a year into her Hololive career to lie about that and cynically manipulate her audience into giving her money, despite also yelling at people not to send blank akasupas and trying to discourage gifted memberships.

>> No.25598980

>>25598444
Or maybe she really is a bit of a spaz with a conscience and doesn't hate the attention she gets but knows she can't encourage it, lest it turn into an uncontrollable monster like all the others. I refuse to think someone who actively undercuts her own income is being a cynical piece of shit whore.

>> No.25599156

>>25597249
Sana would be the last person to willingly leave, because she already established she can simply not work and still get paid.

>> No.25599234

>>25597389
>who would work that much for no money?
>That much
Practically none of them stream for an amount of time comparable to a normal 9 to 5 job. Nobody in En and only a handful in Jp.

>> No.25599325

>>25587792
They all "refuse to have a relationship with their fans", but the truth of the matter is any regular human interaction is a relationship. You have a relationship with your grocery shop owner, a merchantile relationship. You have a relationship with your parents, a parent-sibling relationship. Any VTuber who willingly puts on a cute anime girl skin and engages with chat in a friendly way is playing a morally questionable , inherently predatorial game of toying with emotions and taking money and time away from the viewers.

>> No.25599414

>>25598980
Thing is, it seems more like she’s the one getting parasocial, while her chat remains mostly the same, except maybe being slightly more clingy before her end-of-semester break compared to her Christmas break. She’s essentially already established a fanbase that wouldn’t go nuts like some others have before opening up to them.

>> No.25599529

>>25599414
Eh, I don't know about that. Take a trip to /who/ sometime and you get the impression there's a lot of goslings in denial in the throes of separation anxiety. I imagine a fair bit of her fans are like that, they know where the boundaries are but wouldn't mind doing a border-hopping if the chance arose.

>> No.25599569

>>25586435
Chloe admitted it in her debut

>> No.25599603

They all do it for money they aren't going to pander to a bunch of schizos for free.

>> No.25599828

>>25587658
Not being a greedy twitch whore is an essential part of the vtuber brand.
Saying shit like this nets her more money.

>> No.25599861

>>25587658
>most expensive tier memberships
>ASMR specialty
>doesn't want money

>> No.25599871

>>25599529
I’ve been in /who/ since debut week, while the thread has certainly changed, you’re exaggerating a bit. The Goslings certainly aren’t in denial about it, you still have some of the old guard who are still incapable of lewding her due to the Nene effect, and then there’s newfags who weren’t around for her sparse first months.
You do have a point in that there’s a segment that absolutely would follow her down the GFE route if she went there, but wouldn’t push if she doesn’t want to. Hoomans tend to be a bit more disciplined when it comes to chat interactions. My overall point is that she’s unlikely to have a Vox-type incident, and that /who/ would just assume they were getting raided again if someone tried starting shit in the thread over something like that.

>> No.25600144

>>25586435
All of them post-Myth are in it for the money. Myth had NO reason to assume they would blow up as hard as they did and assumed they would be ID-tier at best. All of them applied for reasons other than money.
Gura, Ame and Kiara were online content creators that were looking for a new audience/platform. Mori did it on a lark and figured it would help get her music out and Ina did it because she is a huge weeb and wanted to break her own lonely routine.

>> No.25600358

>>25599871
I don't know if I entirely agree with the assertion that there's a divide between goslings, oldguard who stick around a general becoming lewder and clingier and those goshdarned newfags who just don't get it, but I may be taking very recent events into account and not seeing the forest for the trees.

Whatever the /who/ ecosystem may actually be, Mumei has been responsible almost to an endearing/irritating degree with discouraging irresponsible spending and nourishing unfulfillable expectations, so I absolutely refuse to lump her in on the greedy whore department.

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>>25586435
do you expect them to do it for free, jannyboy?

>> No.25600640

>>25600358
It’s not a hard divide, some newfags are also Goslings, some learned the ropes from the old guard sooner than others. Some of the old guard are also Goslings, or at least got over their mental block and are capable of sexualizing the owl, and some of them went soft. It literally took until two weeks ago to get the NSO newfags to stop biting obvious bait.

>> No.25600978

>>25598444
>>25598980
I'm not a cynical person, but telling her audience not to send wasteful supers isn't anything special, if anything I would say it's an essential part of the Hololive (and Western vtubing by extension) brand.
Acting like human beings capable of empathy rather than a greedy twitch whore is a major part of why EN took off in the first place.

>> No.25601072

>>25597548
>Schizo fans literally threaten to kill a coworker
>Cries on stream while begging them to stick around
I hope he's just a scumbag in it for the money because the alternative is actually even worse

>> No.25601315

>>25600640
This. The "She'll do history and strategy game streams" hopium was mixed with "She's my autistic daughter(wife)" pretty quickly after the debut already, and we had greentext stories about taking care of wheelchair-bound Mumei, or becoming friends/lovers with Mumei through shared civilization-related interests, pretty early on.

>> No.25601490

>>25600978
Fair enough. I’d point out the time she outright told chat to send fewer superchats, but that’s outside the post-Christmas timeframe I’ve been talking about. I’d say her attitude towards gifted memberships at least indicates that she prefers the intimacy of members streams over the extra money she’d make by encouraging gifting.

>> No.25604204

>>25601315
I kinda wish the hopium had come to full fruition and she had become the wheelchair-bound daughterwife that we went on Isekai adventures with when she turned on the stream. It would've been so comfy. I bet she was the one who edited that video and the one that was the most disappointed when her ideas kept getting shot down

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>>25604204
Yeah. It was a good time anyway, though

>> No.25605366

>>25600978
>Western vtubing by extension
Nigga have you watched western indies and completely morally bankrupt vtubers like Veibae? They milk their audience for every cent like E-thots. Probably don't care if those people might end up penniless and die in a gutter.

>> No.25605949

>>25604204
>I bet she was the one who edited that video and the one that was the most disappointed when her ideas kept getting shot down
If she cared that much she would've played Spore. Fauna is going to play AOE2, Civ5, and Cityskylines, meaning Mumei can too now and I guarantee you unless it's a collab she still won't because Mumei doesn't actually play games

>> No.25607471

>>25605949
Nothing like getting all of your requests shot down in rapid succession to kill your motivation.

>> No.25608358

>>25586798
>Jesus

>> No.25612559

>>25586560
If anything Kiara is the EN most dedicated to vtubing itself.

>> No.25614985

>>25586435
Literally every one of them

>> No.25615139

>>25586435
>people are in a job for the money

>> No.25615366

>>25615139
If this were true, most types of jobs would never even exist.

>> No.25616963

>>25615139
That's not a bad thing

>> No.25619160

>>25605949
>If she cared that much she would've played Spore
Maybe she tried it and realized she didn't like Spore enough to make an interesting and thematic game out of it.

>> No.25621049

>>25597666
the true division is the ones that crave the fame on top of the money
those keep going

>> No.25622506

>>25604204
I'm gonna disappoint you here but I know the guy who made the video if we are talking about the same one.

>> No.25622885

>>25615139
>being a vtuber is a job and not a hobby for most vtubers

>> No.25622944

>>25586435
Me[/spoiler]

>> No.25625023

>>25622506
Oh well. It was funny in my mind.

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