/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Nobody actually believes this is legitimate right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25753432
It's only a matter of time before her senpai expose her, be prepared

[Anonymous No.]

If she was getting 8-10k CCV, NONE of you would be defending her and saying she actually deserves 10x the numbers because she's blowing everyone out the water with entertainment value. Stop letting big numbah warp your smooth brains.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
YouTube Japan does
cope harder

[Anonymous No.]

>starts right before the Anycolor's IPO, makes the company look good for investors
>has unprecedented and constant numbers playing an old dead game
>said numbers don't follow a natural pattern like EVERY SINGLE OTHER vtuber debuting
>viewers come out of nowhere and disappear after streams, barely affecting current streams
you have to be demented to have no suspicions
it's possible that it's all legit, but the odds are so low for all these conditions to happen that the better explanation is that there is foul play

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
no shit, her entire channel is an experiment by the chinese bot farm trying to test their new AI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
>Nobody believes it's legitimate
>People gather evidence against it
>No one reports it to something like YouTube or Niji's investors
>??????
I don't get it, there's all this evidence and no one's doing anything about it besides calling foul. If you really want to find out if it's foul play or not, why not report it and see what happens? Or is it because no one truly believes the evidence is credible and knows it'll fall flat on its face?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
Cope Desu wa

[Anonymous No.]

Except i can post my subscription as proof.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
Cumbud cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
The mental gymnastics these furry desuwafags undergo might surprise you.

[Anonymous No.]

The only thing unnatural is Towa, Matsuri, Mio and Shion having one million subscribers
Roboco averages like 3k viewers and is around 900k

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757673
YouTube is also in on it, YouTube JP just congratulate her 1M subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757673
There is no real evidence, her graph looks more legit than holos, she is always trending be it on yt or twitter, the official youtube twitter made a tweet about her, she is on nip news, numbertards are just desperate, since they can't numberfag over anything anymore. Since their "team" is losing in both sc and views.

[Anonymous No.]

Numberniggers will cry all day about bots but the only ones confirmed to use bots are numberniggers. Curious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757673
"She's too popular for my liking" or "they shouldn't constantly watch her why aren't they leaving" are not really evidence

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>>25757597
>viewers come out of nowhere and disappear after streams, barely affecting current streams
Those are old vtubers fans who come back out of nowhere for a literal who even though she doesn't have anything that could make her stand out from any other generic jap vtuber.

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>>25757707
Unsub from Roboco and Mel. They don't deserve scum like you anywhere near them.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't worry, numbertards are already in acceptance mode and saying how her success is somehow harmful for Nijisanji and helping Hololive instead. At this point you should point and laugh.

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>>25757345

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>>25757859
>her graph looks more legit than holos
And other jokes nijiniggers participate in

[Anonymous No.]

oh hey the shills are here

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758014
Point out the bullshit analysis on her graphs then.
The peakerinos and valleyrinos.

[Anonymous No.]

The bot cull will come any day now......
Any day now......
Please....

[Anonymous No.]

If everything were bots it would literally be fraud, in broad daylight, congratulated and endorsed by Youtube Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758009
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
everybody can believe the expected outrage that retarded nigger holobronies would have since they're shark bitch is no longer relevant, just like holoshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757859
What you mean is that there isn’t any 100% proof like an admission of guilt.
Having 100% fool proof evidence is pretty much impossible for an uninvolved party.
The best people can do is point out how these events are extremely unlikely to happen given all the trends and data of the past.
This is evidence though, if the barrier for police to suspect and investigate someone for a crime was to already know 100% that they did it then there would be no need for anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758014
Oh yeah, only luxiem has fucked up graphs after all.

[Anonymous No.]

muh bots is an EOP thing, JP holochads are already enjoying desuwa
you're doomed to autistically talk about graphs you don't understand and watch shitty SEA clips if you don't do your reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
I do. The attention a whole gen/group would get is SOLELY focused on her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758217
>it's not real because I don't like it
I don't think Pekora screaming and saying Peko Peko every 5 minutes deserves 40k views, but that's what she gets in her normal streams. But I'm not so delusional to think that's botting. But, good luck with your blind hatred.

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>>25758337
Pekora isn't in the wrong company

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>>25757345
> Who?
> She won't make it to 1M
> She won't make it to Gura's numbers
> Nobody believe the growth is legitimate right?
I don't but the mental gymnastic of the average holocoper is really endearing to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758289
Honestly, I really feel bad for EOPs, they wouldn't be able to enjoy Salome even if they watch subbed clips because her contents don't translate well into English

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758217
Yes, great speech anon, i hope you show these solid evidences to YouTube, let's fuck her up, come on

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
Well she's good, question is whether it's good enough to warrant this insane levels of growth and 90K CCV on a regular basis, apparently she just captivated a whole new audience that wasn't into Vtubers before and like 90% of them have to be local nips too, it's strange.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758289
>Superstreamer Salami has 100k viewers JP midnight while people defend that only JP watches her
If you believe the IPO scam, you deserve to lose money on the pump and dump.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758337
Pekora streamed for years and built up a fan base over time.
Salome debuted and immediately hit 1 million subs and not only kept her debut CCV but increased it which has never happened.
Not only that but all the people coming somehow don’t watch other vtubers but knew of her from the moment of debut and watched and subbed to her and only her.

[Anonymous No.]

Haven't watched Nijis in ages but I always thought Mito was the queen of Anycolor. But suddenly desuwa girl appears out of nowhere and instantly breaks a mil. Legitimate or not, it's surprising nonetheless.

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>>25758046
Besides the 8th stream which lagged there (yes, lag, the chat was talking about the stream lagging at that time, source here https://youtu.be/e0fcOkvVcDI?t=323))
Her graphs look completely fine. If you don't think they do, point out where.

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>>25758055
Holotards spammed "IPO scum" shit it was pretty annoying

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758337
>and saying Peko Peko every 5 minutes
Which ironically had to be called out for forgetting to do that at the beginning of her career... while having 20k+ viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758704
Meant for >>25758014

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>>25757597
>viewers come out of nowhere and disappear after streams, barely affecting current streams
Her primary audience is japanese people and in japan her streams almost always end around 1am for them. Most people start going to bed around that time so they watch a very predictable 1 hour of salome's stream and go to bed so it would make sense that they don't go to other ongoing streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757707
nice trolling bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758650
>gura: A
>2 mi subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758704
>they all look exactly the same
yeah completely fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758055

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>>25757345
Kiss my ass desu wa~ https://youtu.be/oRqg20S_7mg

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
Yeah it is, I fully believe japs to have collective fetish for silly character trait and puns to the point they vote her for a prime minister

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
People believe Gura is legit so of course they do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758801
Pretending that Gura’s circumstances are at all similar to Salome’s is extremely dishonest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758650
>CCV increased from debut
>All the people knew of her from the moment of debut
???

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758650
lol Pekora got a shit ton of views at once since Love Live fans came to Hololive. Rise of Hololive in 2020 it's a massive and sudden thing and wasn't gradual by any means.
Debating with holoniggers is like debating with actual kikes. Making up shit and hoping that goyim won't notice. Isn't that strange since you too only care about money and numbers and probably thinking Holowhores are chosen ppl

[Anonymous No.]

>>viewers come out of nowhere and disappear after streams, barely affecting current streams
>>25736824
You'll have to drop this cope if you want to push the narrative that she's more beneficial to Holos than Nijis. The viewers are either real or they aren't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758770
Lol no way people will go sleep after 1 hour stream, as opposite, all holofans raid another holostreamerand barely sleep. Hakunamatata 100% botted streams

[Anonymous No.]

Gura was an international phenomenon in the midst of covid and part of Hololive's long anticipated EN branch
and with all that she has much slower growth than Salome, a random vtuber with a gimmick

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758650
>Salome debuted and immediately hit 1 million
Is that even a stretch considering Irys hit 400k first stream all the way back a year ago on a EN branch?

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that with Salami's sub count and CCV, she should have the same amount of influence as 2017 Kizuna Ai and yet she barely trends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759018
Holofags are used to vtubers being empty hype and ppl losing interest in them after a couple of streams lol
>THE UNPRECEDENTED CASE OF... GAINING MORE VIEWERS AS YOU GET POPULAR

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
I do not care, let her be.
t. gigaholochad

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759047
Holocope
Success breeds jealousy

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759086
yes, Hololive is a huge initial buff (usually)
but nothing explains Salome's view counts or sub growth rate
it's completely unnatural
it happening isn't proof that it's natural

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759038
It was only natural massive and sudden growth, people love idols.
Salome's growth is unnatural and weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758770
This is such bs, there are plenty of streams that go on well after that time.
Surely more than a couple thousand of her hundred thousand would jump to another stream.
JP vtubers might not get their best viewership away from prime time but they clearly can get decent viewership whenever they stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759105
This.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758078
youtube have a long track record of flagging normal viewers as bots and letting the actual bots roam free, PR tweet from their account means nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

If it is bots, then COVER must suck at botting since it would be an obvious boon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759201
Cope and seethe, holotranny

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759156
oy vey the goyim is knowing

[Anonymous No.]

You guys know that all the numbers on YouTube are fake right? Even Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759239
wow you won the debate anon great showing

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
What do you mean you don't believe she's more popular than xQc and Asmongold already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759236
Why pay money on bots when you can get that easily with hype? Tourist don't SC judging by the fact that Salami's monetization lost to even Iroha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758807
>Exactly the same
>Different patterns in each graph that shows natural viewer gain and loss.
>Exactly, the, same
Alright, let's go get your reading glasses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759308
>you won the debate anon
Yes, I did

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759236
Youd think a company so obsessed with being number one (see EN and collab bans) and numbers would bot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
i believe anything as long as it makes numberniggers seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759060
>>25759225
You also have to think that a large portion of these people are normies who only got interested in vtubers because of salome. These people don't watch vtubers, they watch a very entertaining ojou-sama.

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>>25759343
Anon, im being facetious but to humor you, do tell when someone got 1 million in this industry faster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759201
So basically
>it's completely unnatural because wrong company

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759223
And people love retarded girls too, dumb girls are always popular.

[Anonymous No.]

Why aren't chumbuds watching Kiara isn't that strange they're in the same gen after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759384
>muh normie cope
Kek. Pump and dump

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759490
>Two more weeks

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>>25759437
Unironically yes, if it was VSPO or Noripro it would've also been called botting. Nijiniggers might not like it but that's your level these days.

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>>25759490
Holocope tears are best tears. Keep 'em coming, baby

[Anonymous No.]

>A lot of anons thinks it's bots
>There's evidence gathered by /#/
>They still won't submit their evidence to someone that matters and can look into it
Yeah, I'm convinced at this point that these people either don't believe it's bots themselves, are majorly coping, or are just larping and pretending to think it's bots.

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>>25759423
Nobody cares who got 1M faster. Gura barely breaks 30k nowadays and she gets mogged by all of those she lapped previously. Do you think sub milestones will make viewers watch your streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758304
Even a whole new gen debuting in niji wouldn't get this CCV and subs COMBINED this is how ridicilous it all is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759581
Not really, my point is that crying about bots is fucking stupid, as you point out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759559
>muh /#/ said it so it must be true
Kek. Those guys still believe that EN gets culled daily.

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>>25759018
Yes? If everything was legitimate there would be some lag time as people discovered her.
Since when have tourists turned up in such high number that you can beat your debut CCV the next several days.
>>25759038
This is rewriting history. Pakora was initially very unpopular, and debuted at a time when 10k subs was an achievement.
>>25759086
Niji and Holo aren’t comparable in sub growth. Niji only had 2 people that had 1 million before Salome.
Holos also get a massive boost of subs right away from people that sub to the group.
They don’t continue gaining subs IRyS dropped off pretty quickly after hitting 500k.

[Anonymous No.]

Numbertoddler's first viral trend

[Anonymous No.]

>Bot bot bot bot
>Cope cope cope cope
We have 10 threads like this daily with the samefags "arguing" over the same stuff, either report her to Youtube with all these logic and reasons of yours or stop raping the catalog, and if you say YouTube help her botting, well fuck, keep believing the whole world is against you then

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>>25759437
when you have like 200 streamers in Nijisanji already and she grows over an order of magnitude faster than any of them ever have, yes it's wrong company

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>>25759437
>Salome's SC is low viewers are fake
>Vox viewers are fake even though he tops the SC
It really boils down to it being wrong company.
Holofags were running around with propaganda that only males succeed in Nijisanji and only women watch it so it doesn't make sense to them.
They've been for two years saying that Koshien is botted lol
To think they put Nijisanji on the same level as VSPO(which literally only had 10 employees in the entire company)

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759604
Leos was breaking some huge viewer numbers when he debuted.

[Anonymous No.]

>just turn off your brain bro
>stop thinking

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759646
>Niji only had 2 people that had 1 million before Salome
Matsuri averages 3k viewers(as much as a Niji with 300k subs) and somehow has 1 million subs do you think really matters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759711
Aint her fault Nijisanji fans dont sub to every vtuber, even those they dont watch, like Hololive fans.

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>NOOOOOO IT'S NATURAL!!!! SHE'S POPULAR AND VIRAL BECAUSE.....BECAUSE.....SHE JUST IS OKAY?!?!?
No, I'm not taking your biased opinion. I follow logic, and this is illogical. She's not special, and she's not on the level of Holos.

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>>25759756
Holobronies don't know that because they only leave the embrace of their company to cry

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>>25757345
>>25759490
Must suck to be an EOP, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
all me

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759756
>>NOOOOOO IT'S UNNATURAL!!!! SHE'S BOTTED AND A SCAM BECAUSE.....BECAUSE.....SHE JUST IS OKAY?!?!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759604
Because they were literally advertised as newbies who just learned how to stream.
Who would watch that
Plus two of them fucked their debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
Lmao can't wait for yt to purge the bots

[Anonymous No.]

Niji has access to a chinese branch and all the "resources" it can provide. They pump their social value right before IPO using chink bot farms which provably do exist.

Zoomer clipwatchers laughing at anime girl saying FUCK DESUWA don't sub or send SCs. Chink sweatshops of people managing 40 phones each can sub but they won't SC or member. This much is evidenced by the actual numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759827
Matsuri built up Hololive from the start. Those 1M subs accumulated over time. Salami just got 1M in 2 weeks while Kuzuha barely passed that and he's been popular for years.

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>>25759918
Any day now

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759888
Yes, now either refute it or cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758669
manjisanji was all about the kings for quite a while now, Mito was like 3rd in subs before Salomon came.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759827
>>25759837
Basically the truth. Holofans sub to everyone while Nijifans dont. Sub numbers are meaningless when comparing them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759756
Leos was legit going to be as big as Salome until he radically changed his content and style of streaming
Imagine if Salome tomorrow decided to play Valorant

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759939
Burden of evidence is on the accusing party.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759711
That's literally niji's business model though. They hire a ton of people trying to find the one person who pops off. They just happened to find a hit in salome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759105
>>25759232

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759929
You don't accumulate shit by streaming to the same 3k ppl and having like a couple viral clips lol it's obvious unnatural growth

[Anonymous No.]

There's no reason at all a company would cheat a superstar right before going public on the stock market to sell their bags for millions of dollars
That kind of hype wouldn't boost their perceived value at a very favorable return on investment
You're just coping

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759929
Mito has less subs than festival but BTFOs her in views. Explain that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760037
Botted Google search

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>>25759827
Why aren’t these people subbing to Salome subbing to anyone else?
Matsuri has been active for years and used to be pretty popular.
Salome debuted 2 weeks ago and is going to be the highest subbed vtuber in the company.

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>>25760111
Botted reply

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>>25760067
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760056
Matsuri was one of the first viral Holo clips. If you think she started with 3k viewers, you must be a newfag.

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>>25760123
Why arent all of Guras subs subbed to the rest of EN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760037
>NO ANYCOLOR BOUGHT AT LEAST 1000 DIFFERENT CHINESE SWEATSHOPS TO CONSTANTLY SEARCH HER NAME TO BOOST HER RELEVANCY I SWEAR

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760111
>any company that I dont like is botting, a numberfag cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760123
>Why aren’t these people subbing to Salome subbing to anyone else?
because I don't want to sub to others?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760170
You realize buying SEO is cheap as fuck right? Indian scam call centers can afford it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760154
She started with less, actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759997
Explain where her viewers came from and why they’re so much more likely to sub than vtuber fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760123
Same reason Chronoir fans didn't sub to everyone in Nijisanji.
>She has been around for longer
Is a meme. Why doesn't Ange have 1 million subs despite having more clips and viewers than Matsuri?
The growth of ppl like Matsuri, Towa or Mio are questionable when you compare them to every other chuuba out of Hololive

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>>25760211
They think Niji is a small indie company who can't afford viewfarms. In reality, Niji is going public and they need to boost their stock somehow. Meanwhile, mid-tier Holos like Nenechi gets a sololive sponsored by Nissin.

[Anonymous No.]

>It has never happened!
>So that means it will never happen!

Smartest holobronies watcher

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760273
Iinchou has less subs than those three. Its a fucking stupid argument. Hell, I think all of JK gumi gets more CCV than them.

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>>25759559
Lmao, they won't submit it because they're scared that whoever they submit it to will not find any foul play in Salome's growth or streams at all.
They'd rather make up in their heads that she's botted than get the truth from YouTube or someone investing in Nijisanji and finding out that, the truth is, she isn't botted.

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>>25760273
I believe most or a fair number of people that sub to Towa are there for her music/voice. Her songs reflect as much. She said as much. "My voice has carried me this far." Something a long those lines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760251
Japanese Twitter and from the ratio of viewers to subscribers it doesn't look like they're any more likely to sub than anyone else, probably less than hololive boxfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760251
If you could read Japanese, you would know.

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>>25760360
Why isn't China near 1 million subs while having songs with literally over 10 millions

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760163
That doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760357
Holochads don't need to report shit like you Niijiniggers and your false reports on Fubuki monetizing Elden ring.

[Anonymous No.]

Could be, could be not
Wouldn't be the first youtuber to be accused to use bots to bloat sub numbers anyway.
If it is legit, good for her, honestly I'm neutral to this aside having to deal with another general (and some shitposting threads) here pushing out slower generals faster. But if it isn't, this is gonna spark some huge drama.
I think it's a bit suspicious considering how Niji numbers usually rise, but anything could happen, I guess? In the huge spectrum of YT, 1M (or 4M) subs is nothing and will barely get Susan's attention unless it makes a fuckload of cash.

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>>25760441
Of course it doesnt. Lets casually ignore her, its convenient

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>>25759858
There's really no reason any Holo fan would ever go elsewhere for content until Salome.
Any vtuber-FPS fans will go to VPSO when a Holo streamer isn't on, and there isn't even a consideration for anything else unless you want mahjong streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760453
Nice cop-out, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

Realistically , will she surpass Gura eventually ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760329
The fact that they use Holoshit as the standard when they're actually the anomaly is baffling

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>>25760163
A lot of Gura’s subs did sub to other Myth members at the start.
She started pulling farther ahead as her clips went viral.
No other Niji has ever gotten so many subs in such short amount of time despite also having huge debut CCV and 3D CCV.

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>>25760471
>unless it makes a fuckload of cash.
she made 10k in superchats with 110k viewers on a celebration stream
the money is being made at the IPO not the stream

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>>25757345
Never gonna watch her, but I'm rooting for her because seeing her mindbreak all these obnoxious numberniggers is great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760514
Seethe more Nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
>another cope and seethe thread
O i am laffin

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760530
>Hololive is an anomaly
>so it's normal that Salome is an anomaly even compared to anomalies
great argument genius

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
This is my last cope!

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760530
The fallacy of /#/ is that they use HL as the standard instead of trying to understand how it literally doesnt apply to other companies.
>>25760538
Is it unreasonable to assert Salome is to JP what Gura was to EN?

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>>25760590
She only mind break holobronies, numberfags only care about numbers, there's a poll about whether to get her out of the tally and 72% voted no, the other are of course, holobronies

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757597
Trust the science magatard

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760163
Because they only care about Gura? What kind of fucked up logic is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760037
>>25760111
OH NONONONONO HAHAHAHAHHAHA
I have never seen numberniggers get BTFO in every front

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
they promoted her alot on twitter so it's real

[Anonymous No.]

>/#/ lives rent free in his head

[Anonymous No.]

you guys really should try switching your twitter region to Japan
she almost always have a tag in the trending section

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760683
So why cant that be true about Salome? Thats my fucking point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760524
if susan doesn't cull her down or she doesn't get catched cheating her numbers ?
of course
unironically she is the gura killer that gura always was dreaming all this time

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760379
That doesn’t make sense, people just checking her out wouldn’t just decide to sub in such large numbers.
It also doesn’t make sense that so many normies would show up as quickly as a day after debut.

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>>25757345
Why not? She basically just started too. Viewership from a stellar debut always goes down some eventually. Some are just there for the hype, memes and until something new arrives.

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>>25760563
Yeah, just checked, she topped last week. The question here is if she can keep that pace on income. Maybe not as high since it was a celebration, but something around top 50-100 montly.
That said, celebrations usually mean a lot of superchats and spikes on incomes, but just for a day or two, or maybe a week. Then it normalizes. If she keeps getting high income after that then great, she's likely to get Susan's attention, for better or worse.
She only has 2 weeks since debut, it's too soon to get a conclusion. Give a month or two to see if this was just an outlier or if she's actually the exception to the rule.

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>>25760657
Yes, completely unreasonable.
Gura already was a popular person that debuted to an entirely new market at a time when worldwide YouTube viewership was at its peak and vtubers were a hot topic.
Salome debuted in an established market in a company that has debuted many vtubers that have never experienced this insane growth before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
I want to believe. I genuinely want her to reach the top and be successful just like I did with gura back then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761039
Ok. So when this all gets proven legit, where do you stand. Its really not that big of a deal at the end of the day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
Cumshart cope deflection thread? Cumshart cope deflection thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760563
>SC to viewer ratio cope
Holobro are you sure you want to use that as an argument?
And not everyone watching a 2 week old chuuba for entertainment is going to be a paypig.

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>>25761039
Cope.
Salome debuted to a even bigger vtuber market, at a time vtubing is at it's biggest in viewership and sponsors, were vtubing is part of their entertainment culture and not a passing fad like the west.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760379
you have proof of this right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761394
Based Aunties love their Knight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761240
It wont. When Anykara gets exposed for the frauds they are, i will watch you cry nijikek

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760668
The 28% is all Niji fans, Holo fans don't care at all and are just enjoying watching Nijisanji rip itself apart.
Take a look at the twitterspace of hardcore Niji fans. They're basically bugging out over Salome having higher CCV than the rest of their entire group summed together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760921
/#/ is a holobrony anti thread, where numberniggers have flat-out admitted to botting smaller Nijis in an attempt to get them flagged, and which peddles this cope about bots almost word for word whenever a Niji or indie gets good ccv.

Anyway, Salome's graphs, SCs, viewership, chat, google and twitter engagement all come out looking legit, and she got congratulated by Youtube - twice. Numberniggers don't have a leg to stand on, much like their shithole anti thread only stays on /vt/ because jannies won't do their fucking jobs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761456
TWO MORE WEEKS

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761394
Holy shit. So what's wrong with Polka? Why didn't Holofags throw money at her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761527
Must be botted views

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761456
So you are just a tribalist. Who the fuck cares? I just like cute anime gril saying Kiss my ass desu wa~

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761492
>numberniggers have flat-out admitted to botting smaller Nijis in an attempt to get them flagged
This literally never happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761556
Botted subs too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759038
Racism on /vt/, yikes. Go back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761240
It’s incredibly unlikely to be legitimate.
The timing is incredibly suspicious with the IPO.
We’re supposed to believe that somehow she managed to bring in absolutely insane numbers of people that don’t watch vtubers in less than 24 hours of debut.
She’s paradoxically so interesting that she can bring in these people but not large numbers of existing vtuber fans.
All of this when all other JP vtubers have a huge drop off between debut and first stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25760037
It's funny a board about vtubers has so many who are completely unaware of popular trends in japan. Or just willfully ignorant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761240
They will simply make up some new shit, like how she was hired for 1 week, then 2 weeks, then 1 month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
if it's true that there are no viewer dips in other channels when she starts and no corresponding rise in other channels when she leaves, then it is absolutely fake beyond any shadow of doubt. i don't know whether the evidence actually shows such an absence of effect on other channels, and i don't care enough to research it, but for me the question turns entirely on that evidence. if there are dips and rises to account for 20-40% of her viewers, then it's probably real. if you can't find 5% of her viewers leaving other channels when she starts or returning to them when she ends, then it is a certainty that it's fake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761628
The people typing in chat? Bots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
On one hand
>Vtubers are generally still gaining popularity, Holo en is just stagnant as shit because they don't stream as much as they should
>It's not impossible considering she sticks to character, keeps streams short, and other things that make her easy to digest for new subscribers, it would just take a lot of luck
However
>Basedny's involved, and Basedny is in bed with tons of people like Youtube, so if they were botting it's likely they'd work something out with Youtube to ignore them for a bit
>They've recently (or will soon, I don't keep up with them) gone public, and this would be literally the perfect thing at the exact perfect timing for them to attract investors
>More than doubling the rate of subscription of Gura, an English speaking vtuber who had the appeal of the entire English speaking audience, vs Salome who speaks Japanese and therefor has the comparatively smaller Japanese audience, is incredibly suspicious
>Gura had the pandemic boost, Salome does not
>All this while she got a solo debut which they don't do in Niji, possibly because IF they ARE botting, it would look off if only one of the gen blows up that badly and the others aren't affected, as they probably wouldn't want to buy that many bots for all of them
All things considered the timing alone is suspicious as shit. Personally her voice doesn't fit the ojou type for me, but I'll watch a few more streams to see if I can get over it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761818
Replace this with Gura
And before you spout something retarded of EN market doing well, literally no one expected them to explode including the talents, it was a complete shot in the dark before they annonced the branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761939
Posting on /here/? Bot detected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761939
And the SC also are bots!

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
Thanks for the reminder, I will sub her just to spite numberniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761985
everything about gura exploding made perfect sense

salome is Just Another Chuuba but is doing numbers like no one before. if you're not at least skeptical you are small of brain

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761985
>no one expected them to explode
rewriting history again

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761456
>When Anykara gets exposed for the frauds they are, i will watch you cry nijikek
You really think the schizos spamming Salami on this board are Niji fans?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761959
Her voice fits nice. She just needs to practice her "ohohoho"s because those are certainly lacking in ojou energy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761240
known real viewers have had to suffer through youtube's broken, retarded attempts to limit the use of bots. if it's the case that her subscribers and viewers are largely fake, then those broken, retarded attempts were literally useless, and the whole thing pointlessly inflicted inconvenience on real people without accomplishing anything. that would be a real shame.

[Anonymous No.]

Nobody actually believes this is legitimate right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761468
By the way, there's a trending tweet about this specifically that is being used to shitpost endlessly by vtuber antis, you can find a bunch of Jun fans spraying shit around in the replies too. Basically the same as here, people pretending to love this or that and hate the other for (You)s.

Salome already has more subs than over half of Niji's entire debut groups, it plots out her growth and shows the dates of when she will beat out every single Niji group, and when she will beat ALL of the previous Nijisanji members combined (something like 9 months from now, Salome > Nijisanji).
It's a pretty troll-ish tweet series though since it presumes she both won't slow down and will continue gaining speed.

>17 more days to beat out every single Nijisanji wave on her own
>5 months to beat all of Nijisanji combined
>11 months to beat all of Hololive combined
After that she will take over the Earth or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25762075
Kiara had reaching fucking 100k subs on her goals in her first stream when she was nearing 300k by it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758078
>fraud, in broad daylight, congratulated and endorsed by Youtube
this is not the shocking allegation you seem to think it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761604
Millie being botted never happened? You really wanna start this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761985
Gura doesn’t fit any of this.
She did have mostly vtuber fans or people with an interest checking her out.
She also built up over time. As clips went viral she started to gain subs at a faster rate.
She also had a drop off between her debut viewership and her next streams.
Even with all the buffs Gura had, she couldn’t do what Salome supposedly can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25762098
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

Numberseethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>25762170
Thats all just me and my bots. I am the first, last, and only chumbud. Reason she doesn't stream is there is no point as I am the only one who watches and it's easier to just have sex with me and get my money directly without sharing with youtube or Yagoo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25762352
Nigger she was the first fucking holo to reach 1m subs, the market was SMALLER back then, her growth was unprecedented

[Anonymous No.]

>>25762478
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>25762512
SHE had almost 1 millions subs already

[Anonymous No.]

>>25762612
Yeah and Irys has a 300m view song, past life matters for shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>25762457
>Even Youtube kneels
Numbrainbros... we lost...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25762457
Isn't everyone these days a numberchad?

Anyone posting Salome is talking about how big her numbers are, people against her is talking about how fake her numbers are.

/#/ won this entire catalog and no one has noticed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757820
anon...you do know that those holos have been streaming for years, right?

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly pisses me off how some literal nobody just comes out onto the scene as a meme, and is able to reach 1 mill subs while maintaining 100k viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25762512
Vtubing grew in part because myth was such a breakout group.
Her circumstances make sense for her to have hit 1 million fast.
What is the reason behind Salome’s meteoric rise?
A weird debut and wondering about why there’s a solo debut don’t seem like enough reason.
What could have caused her to get the attention of 10’s of thousands of normies but not people that watch vtuber?

[Anonymous No.]

This is some shounenshit level drama
Now hear me out

Numbers are power levels
Crazy new character with an insane level comes in and everyone forgets the old low level fights and old struggles due to powercreep
The rabbit's friend was killed, and she herself has gone missing
The rabbit's old rival is the only one left with the power of friendship (leeching) to fight against the new character, but she's just not strong enough

The people who get autistic over powerlevels are the same people who get autistic over numbers.
Forget about the tribalshit for a second, this is peak entertainment.

[Anonymous No.]

>no bro it's completely legitimate that she's kept above debut numbers of live viewers for every stream when literally no on else has ever done that, yet somehow her triple CCV of even the biggest current vtubers has half as many active chatters!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>25763029
lunaito..... not like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>25762478
Pretty based ngl

[Anonymous No.]

>>25762683
This point helps the argument of the person you were replying to.
Those views came from tourists looking for the song on YouTube when it became a meme.
Their views didn’t translate into subs or even views on her other covers.
Why are we to believe that tourists are mass subbing to Salome?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25762779
They won, but at what cost

[Anonymous No.]

>>25763084
it's the fabled nijitourists who stay for a week instead of vtuber fans who leave after the debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>25762980
She became a meme, that's it. Same shit can be said for gura. And no, it's not a catchphrase, she herself became one

[Anonymous No.]

>>25763084
>when literally no one else has ever done that
Lmao what the fuck are you talking about hahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>25763421
>posts no proof to the contrary

[Anonymous No.]

>>25763084
Oh, here's one of those evidences I was talking about before, why is no one compiling and submitting this to YouTube? Do you truly believe in this evidence or are you just creating it to justify yourself into thinking she's botted?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25763392
How did so many people learn about her so fast that there wasn’t any build up?
Why aren’t more vtuber fans watching her? If she’s big outside of vtuber fans surely she’d be big inside too.
Why are tourists suddenly deciding to sub en mass when they historically don’t do that especially in JP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnHMm8nkn1c

[Anonymous No.]

>>25762329
Millie was botted by one asshole who wanted to see what bots looked like. At no point was anyone trying to get her banned. You're acting like there was a group effort by people to bot people and report and ban them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761985

Gura had everything going for her. Bigger potential market due to speaking English, a built in potential fan base due to being part of hololive and she debuted at the peak of the fad when people were stuck at home during lockdowns watching shit on youtube. She lucked out over the rest of her gen because those factors combined with the cute design, memes and singing voice to create a once in a lifetime opportunity

This girl doesn't really have any of that. Vtubers aren't on the decline but the growth rate of most channels are far below what they were peak pandemic, she doesn't speak english so that cuts down on the foreign market AND she's with fucking Nijisanji where most of the talents barely get over half a million subs let alone a million.

Where Gura took advantage of the perfect storm here we have a whale falling out of the sky on a clear day. It just doesn't make sense and something fucking weird made it happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
I in fact do believe in it if it can happen too hololives girls nijisanji was bound to also experience this at some point doesn't hurt that she is also fun to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25763653
>there wasn’t any build up?
People was discussing her for weeks before her debut, everyone went to watch it because they were curious if it was legit or a giant shitpost, just because you decided to ignore everything that was happening it doesn't mean it didn't happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
Cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
Nijiniggers should be ashamed!

[Anonymous No.]

>>25763891
Why would non vtuber fans care about this so much that thousands show up.
Her debut CCV makes sense, it’s everything after that makes no sense.
The mystery would be over on debut there’s no reason for her to consistently hit debut or higher CCV.

[Anonymous No.]

OMG NUUUUMBERSSSS!!!! *soiface*

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
this is just cope, she hit that vtuber sweet spot every new gen tries to hit. Eventually her growth will slow down but not before she has the chance to consolidate her popularity into a loyal fanbase before the next big hit arrives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25763779
She had luck, that's it. Same as Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>25764047
Are you an actual threadwatcher? Did you not hear about how insane her debut was?

[Anonymous No.]

>numberniggers shit up the board for months and months on end using numbers as a cudgel
>Salome comes in, grabs the cudgel, and cracks their brains open like it's a Brazilian Liveleak video
Could not have happened to better people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25764047
For the same reason they cared when kizuna said fuck you and miko said nigger, a lot of people tuning into her debut made her go viral and it attracted even more people to spread it further, it's not complicated

[Anonymous No.]

holokeks still coping jesus christ,

[Anonymous No.]

>>25764047
>Why would non vtuber fans care about this so much that thousands show up.
>ridiculous joke name
>Stupid character
>Showed her endoscopy
Easy exposure. And by the way the "normalfags" are normalfags in the same way that vt calls anime watchers normalfags, they're still otaku, just didn't watch vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
how many till she becomes the face of Nijisanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25764239
She already is. Men don't count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
I dunno if it's legit or not but if it is legit I'm curious if she could actually overthrown Gura post pandemic and vtuber boom.

Crazy that JOP market could beat EOP and ESL market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25764520
>Crazy that JOP market could beat EOP and ESL market.
It makes sense when you think about it. English market has a much higher theoretical ceiling but a significantly shallower pool of talent and much lower standards. You can't really go normalfag-viral with girls who don't stream and sic their simp fans on anybody who complains.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25764122
>>25764176
>>25764199
All prior instances of viral memes took time to build up, they didn’t happen in just 24 hours.
You also have to believe the paradox that she’s somehow so interesting that she’s pulling in massive amounts of tourists but relatively few vtuber fans care to watch.
I don’t doubt that she’s popular, I doubt that she’s 90k+ CCV 1million subs popular.

[Anonymous No.]

Her best case scenario is she peaked early, no way in hell she keeps the growth up long term. She'll peter off and end up like the rest of the Nijisanji's

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
She makes Holofaggots SEETHE so I don't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25764353
nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>25764757
If you already decided you won't believe despite all the evidence then sure, keep whining, it doesn't change reality

[Anonymous No.]

>>25764757
>few vtuber fans care to watch
What do you mean? Obviously there are far more Vtuber fans than the people who watch regular 3+hour apex/minecraft streams during the week

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759047
>3% retention in Niji
>6% retention across Niji and Holo
Using this graph, for any argument, isn't the flex you think it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25764757
>All prior instances of viral memes took time to build up, they didn’t happen in just 24 hours.
EN was dropped out of nowhere, and they had basically the same time that salome had

[Anonymous No.]

damn /#/ runs this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757673
Because there is no evidence you retard, you're just too stupid to understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>25761394
Based Aunties

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
Nobody with a brain does

[Anonymous No.]

>>25765224
Their means are excessively effective when all other topics are locked behind a language barrier folded over several thousand times

[Anonymous No.]

>>25764909
What evidence is there to support claims that this is legitimate?
This is so unexpected and unprecedented that it’s literally unbelievable.
All explanations given might explain fragments but crumble to dust in the full context.
>>25764912
People have been watching where her viewers go when her streams end.
Somehow among the vtubers streaming only a couple thousand of her 100k find their way to another stream.
This phenomenon is entirely unique to Salome.
Streams much smaller than her’s will funnel more viewers.
There are also sites that track unique chatters and chat overlap between other vtubers.
Salome has incredibly low chat overlap compared to other vtubers with Mito being the highest at around 14%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25765114
That’s not true.
Gura didn’t have higher than her debut CCV until her singing stream in October.
There was also a noticeable build up in how fast she was gaining subs as the memes spread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758078
Of course because YT Japan favors JP and will not fix shit for EN. Look at what happened to Council when they lost all those subs, it never got fixed. When Holo JP got the viewer bug in early Jan 2022, it was fixed within a week. When it heavily affected EN in Dec 2020, nothing was die about it. I wonder if she gets the waiting > watching "feature" that all Holo's get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25763633
youtube are smoking crack off in cloud cuckoo land. you can't even get them to take down illegal content unless it's on national news. posting it here is sending it to literally the entire population of people who speak english who would care to look at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25759646
That is until YT starting counting people who mass subbed to Council as bots and took them away from the sub count. Did this girl have that problem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
Holonigga, she is literally hurting no one or bothering you and your non-existent streamers. Why are you seething?

[Anonymous No.]

Was this girl popular or known before she became a Vtuber?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25765749
Well unlike Salome she filtered a ton of people, Salome watchers get what they expect, an anime character

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
Yeah I believe to zhang tech

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
If Anycolor went with half the number then yes I can somewhat see it as legitimate but they went full-on nft scam level and make it so obvious lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25765811
Then publish it to Niji's investors? You know, the ones that should be DEEPLY concerned about shady shit when trying to invest at uhhh the IPO happening right now?

[Anonymous No.]

can someone explain the twitter trendings and the ocean of fanarts this has generated?
how do you bot fanarts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25765878

faking popularity isn't a victimless crime, it cheapens the accomplishment and makes people suspicious of everyone else

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766098
You see, to americans someone can't be successful if their (person of choice) gets overshadowed, so clearly AI mimic being humans and make unique drawings. Then they create twitter accounts, speak like humans and share their artwork and even interact with the subject of interest. I mean, how can you not understand that someone attached to Nijisanji with massive successful has nothing legit about them and the community surrounding them? Pft, what are you 5?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766098
fanarts also botted
the live chat that's a blur impossible to read? also botted
and don't forget the botted clips

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
>Nobody actually believes this is legitimate right?
Even with the screwiness of Luxiem's big event streams, you could at least point to them getting a brand new audience with the West Taiwanese fujos to somewhat explain things. This; I have no explanation for other than some fuckery going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766088
they can do their own due diligence. not my money, not my problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766098

artists always jump on the hype train to get likes, retweats, commissions and the chance to latch on to new talent. And did you seriously just imply twitter doesn't have bots?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25764520
Are you retarded? vtubers are far bigger in Japan. "muh market" means jack shit when the majority of EOPs far and away prefer watching 3D streamers to vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766259
chat traffic supports the claim that it's fake.
>>25763084

[Anonymous No.]

Literal chink shills

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766395
>look at lain numbers
all I get form this is that holofags are hopeless spammers

[Anonymous No.]

>>25764047
Even if she attracted "normalfags" they aren't all fucking sticking around for the next one hour installment of fucking RE7 part 8. Can't believe how delusional people are being about this shit that they think every stream CCV being above her debut numbers is genuine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766395
This post i am replying to was made by a robot

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766463
I think we're talking about Salome being botted or not, not Hololive Moments

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
Anything to make Nijisanji IPO worth it i guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766538
>they aren't all fucking sticking around for the next one hour installment of fucking RE7 part 8.
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766098
They can bot twitter trend easily enough, and I believe AIs are advanced enough to generate fanarts nowadays

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766538
>Can't believe how delusional people are being about this shit
They're not delusional; they just want to shitpost. Whether her numbers are real or not is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766667
This. I dont care about numbers. But i love seeing this make numberfags squeal like the little pigs they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766098
twitter trendings can be botted, its normal
the artist will bandwagon for exposure, same as clippers its simple

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766890
>twitter trendings can be botted
With recent developments it looks like MOST of twitter is botted kek

[Anonymous No.]

Also she's not the same as Gura, Gura has ten percent luck, twenty percent skill, fifteen percent concentrated power of will, five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain, and a hundred percent reason to remember the name, while Salome is just a very entertaining vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>25765811
wtf are you talking about, YouTube takes down 100000 videos per day
just do it, all the botted streams have been detected by YouTube

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766098
I don’t think people are disputing that she has some amount of popularity.
The problem is how much is actually real.
It seems like they’re trying to manufacture a breakout star.
Boosting her numbers will make it look like she’s much more popular than she really is but it can bring in real people curious about what the deal is.
It seems like their gambit is to fake it until they make it so to speak.
Streamers with big numbers always seem to attract the most people just because of the bandwagon effect.
The plan is probably to boost her until she actually gets popular and viral enough from the bandwagon effect.
Whether it will actually work or not who knows but exposure seems to be king in streamer world so long as you’re a halfway decent streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766964
>Also she's not the same as Gura because [holobrony cope]
Man, you insufferable little shits are getting what you fucking deserve and it's delicious. I'd tell you to stop embarrassing yourself here and go watch streams but - whoops, haha!

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766929
yea it's obvious as hell lol, every politician, and every crypto scammer knows this already
this is just Nijisanji trying to show some kind of "Breakthrough" before their IPO
https://thebridge.jp/en/2022/04/anycolor-files-for-ipo

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
It's fully legitimate. Now please buy our stock it opened very healthy and strong just like her numbers. When can we come pick up the money?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25767073
sure, their malfunctioning robot does. there is absolutely no hope for a member of the general public trying to get youtube to fix some problem. it does not happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757345
No, i'm not gonna participate in Nijisanji IPO scammy cashgrab lol

[Anonymous No.]

holocope general

[Anonymous No.]

>>25767249
>$11 USD per share
So this is a buy, right? Barring a major yab or a market implosion it should trend upward along with the market so at this price point it's super affordable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25766265
This
Her audience literally materialized out of thin air then disappeared when she stopped streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>25767437
i'm looking to short if i could, because if its known that Anycolor is using bot then its easy money lol

[Anonymous No.]

>25767459
>it's impossible to have viewers that don't watch other vtubers
>meanwhile gura has 2mil subs more than the rest of myth

[Anonymous No.]

>>25767437
It's currently trading at 5000 yen actually

[Anonymous No.]

>>25757457
Fujos and faggots SEETHING

[Anonymous No.]

>>25767286
>esl
yeah I get it now, you can't even speak English let alone writing to YouTube
People have been reported YouTube videos since the dawn of time and YouTube has taken a lot of them down

[Anonymous No.]

>>25767720
>you can't even speak English let alone writing to YouTube
this is an impressive charge coming from an illiterate that can't even conjugate verbs.

[Anonymous No.]

People saying "she's just lucky" and "she hit the sweet spot!" like she just stumbled on the fucking cheat code to being a successful vtuber. These subs have to come from somewhere and they sure as well aren't coming from people watching other Nijisanji streamers who struggle to even manage 500k let alone 1 million or from foreign viewers that don't know what the fuck she's saying.

If she'd slowly built up to a million subs over even just a month this would have been believable but growth this explosive just doesn't make sense in the context of just about every other vtuber out there.

Gura managed 1 million in a month but she had a hell of a boost from contributing factors that just don't exist here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25763029
based

[Anonymous No.]

>actually it's not possible for her to have gone viral, because I said so

[Anonymous No.]

Youtube JP congratulated her
So it's either legit or Youtube JP is also in the game.
But it's been long since Youtube nerfing Hololive so I don't know what to expect

[Anonymous No.]

>>25767582

Gura was a perfect storm. Cute design, cute voice, good memes/humor and great singing voice. The rest of her gen have their strong points but they lacked the broad appeal that helped push gura ahead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25767842
People watch Salami because she IS the ideal chuuba: someone who looks and actually acts like an anime character. people don't stick around for Gura because she's just another fucking streamer with a 2.5d model covering her face.

[Anonymous No.]

>actually gura's popularity is legit because of reasons
>no I will not listen to any of the reasons explaining why Salome's popularity is legit
>why do you guys think numberfags are biased its not fair :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>25767917
I don’t think anyone has gone as viral as she supposedly has in a day.
It takes time for clips and images to spread and for people interested to come watch an actual stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25758009
Seems like most of this thread is denial. They need to cope. It has been half a year already, it's time for them to get over it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25768441
>because something has never happened before it's impossible for it to happen for the first time

[Anonymous No.]

>>25768583
Yes. Clipwatchers don't watch streams. Her "going viral" would not convince everyone who's heard about her to pile in her streams exceeding her debut #s. That's not how internet traffic works, sinoid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25768225

Every vtuber starts off leaning into their shtick before they start to let it drop. If you think this is going to be the holy grail that never drops character then you're going to be in for a rude awakening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25768713
>source: I made it up

[Anonymous No.]

>>25768713

even if a clip watcher likes the clip and goes and finds her channel then what? They click on one of her videos and it's all in Japanese and they have no fucking clue what she' saying

clip watchers subscribe to clippers, because that's the content they can actually watch.

This kind of explosive popularity can't be explained by the JPs alone, it needs some foreign viewers to pad it out and she should not be getting those foreign views this easily just speaking japanese, her growth should be similar to any other JP vtuber and it isn't.

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>>25768583
That’s true in the same way her getting 10 million subs in a day would be.
Never happened before but technically possible, just extremely unlikely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25769199
Not to mention that out of all the clips on youtube , none of them have more than 200k views. So none of these clips are that popular but are somehow the reason she exploded in popularity

[Anonymous No.]

YouTube's AI is programmed to err on the aggressive side (hence the constant false positives), so saying it's bots means that AnyColor found some loophole in the code, which seems much more implausible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25770328
>tons of JP clips with 200k-1mil views
what the fuck are you talking about lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>25771104
anon is EOP pls andastando

[Anonymous No.]

>>25771104
Fuck you're right. My bad, I wasn't thinking about region differences in search results

[Anonymous No.]

>>25771104

clip views don't transform into subscribers

I watch a shit ton of translated JP clips and yet I don't subscribe to a single JP vtuber because I don't know fucking Japanese and there's no reason to have their streams filling up my youtube

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>>25759756
>>25759998
how big?