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[Anonymous No.]

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

[Anonymous No.]

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>78,179: Salome (Nijisanji)
>73,014: Hololive (Hololive)
>67,077: Ryushen (Nijisanji)
>61,486: Ryushen (Nijisanji)
>48,242: Momo (Nijisanji)
>45,341: Lui (Hololive)
>24,106: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,575: Gura (Hololive)
>19,388: Alban (Nijisanji)
>18,752: Shu (Nijisanji)
>18,409: Shion (Hololive)
>17,563: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>13,943: Watame (Hololive)
>13,811: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>13,797: Laplus (Hololive)
>13,670: Kobo (Hololive)
>13,450: Sana (Hololive)
>13,427: Ange (Nijisanji)
>13,384: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>13,311: Vox (Nijisanji)
>12,583: Gatchman (Indie)
>12,418: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,261: Lisa (VSPO)
>12,169: Lui (Hololive)
>10,850: Reid (Neo Porte)
>10,087: Kanae (Nijisanji)

[Anonymous No.]

>>25937098
>Anon, Kiara got 28k. Are you stupid?
Ah, I forgot about it

[Anonymous No.]

>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7
5) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 7
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live
7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 114,132 - 1 million subs celebration yakiniku
9) Iroha (Hololive) - 124,349 - 3D debut
10) Salome (Nijisanji) - 71,690 - English study
11) Salome (Nijisanji) - 78,179 - Resident Evil 7

>PER COMPANY
7x: Nijisanji
4x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
7x: Salome
1x: Haachama, Iroha, Mio, Watame

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
107x: Hololive
46x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko
11x: Kuzuha, Salome
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

[Anonymous No.]

ah, peace

[Anonymous No.]

*FINAL INTERNATIONAL TALLY OF THE DAY*
>23,575: Gura (Holo EN)
>19,410: Alban (Niji EN)
>18,763: Shu (Niji EN)
>13,703: Kobo (Holo ID)
>13,459: Sana (Holo EN)
>13,318: Vox (Niji EN)
>13,248: Mysta (Niji EN)
>8,926: Ike (Niji EN)
>7,052: Luca (Niji EN)
>6,866: Kobo (Holo ID)
>5,744: Alban (Niji EN)
>5,187: Alban (Niji EN)

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf8ZFqvSONk

Why is she on Gura's timeslot? What the fuck is she doing?

[Anonymous No.]

I like this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25937287
Her best?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25937264
Lel, Chumbuds are pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25937287
What exactly is Gura's timeslot anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25937287
Gura already streamed today anonchama. She ain’t streaming again… Also Fauna probably gonna funnel into Mumei.

>>25937487
It’s EN primetime but it’s called Gura slot because if ENs try streaming independently alongside her they just get obliterated. Even Fauna who has one of the most dedicated fanbases drops like 1-2k viewers. ENs can pull their weight but Gura is still a massive black hole and for good reason, who wants to fucking watch X vtuber when Gura is on

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>>25937487
LAMY SLOT!

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>>25937287
Why do HoloENfags always whine when more than 1 of them stream at the same time?
And then they complain when the girls don't like to stream

[Anonymous No.]

>taking Gura's slot for better numbers on a horror game
Shameless whore. Fauna is such a fucking joke.

>>25938237
This fucking attention whore was shitting up Kiara's chat earlier so she could've been streaming anywhere between the end of Kiara's stream or even in her regular timeslot but she decided to be a shameless leech and take Gura's slot. She'll still get shit for numbers because the game is literally nothing and she's a boring whore

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANkOA63VRFM

[Anonymous No.]

>>25938384
ah shit why is she streaming 2 hours before her normal slot.

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>>25938237
>there's 11 girls
>decide to stream irregularly
>leave a bunch of empty slots
>when they decide to stream, they do so at times when everyone else is streaming
It's a mystery to me, anon. I don't know why anons hate overlaps at all...

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>>25938384
>completely overlapping Mumei's return stream
She's an actual bitch jesus christ

[Anonymous No.]

>>25938384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cmG3zQ5VKM
>NijiEN karaoke vs holoEN minecraft

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>>25938591
Easy NijiEN win, it's only kronii and not a collab.

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>>25938406
>Fauna Streaming 2 hours later than her usual slot
>Kronii streaming 2 hours earlier than her usal slot
Why are they like this?

[Anonymous No.]

Damn, why is Ike doing a birthday countdown in actual Euro Hours? CET
https://youtu.be/oxUGEo89wHc
Instead of the usual East Asian time everyone else does it in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25938591
Holo gonna be triple overlapping, so if Niji cant beat Kronii solo minecraft it would be pretty embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25938628
Are you pretending to be retarded

[Anonymous No.]

Pomu and Elira has over 6k on a collab right now.
How much of that is because there is no HoloEN stream right now?

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>>25938705
>triple overlapping
Fauna's game is sub 1 hour unless she's literally braindead. Worse that happens is that she overlaps on her superchat reading which is a whole lot of fucking nothing.

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>>25938740
I would guess it helps since Pomu seems to have the most overlap with holo fanbase wise.

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>>25938656
He has decency and dignity.

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>>25938706
People seem to keep forgetting this happened.
When though it just did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25938706
Ngl I forgot about it because Kiara usually doesn't complete for cripple gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>25938705
Does HoloEN fags really get so mindbroken over only three stream overlaps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25939115
Just usual Fauna schizo morbing

[Anonymous No.]

hey fellas, think a game like ten rooms, ten second would be a buff to JP holos?

[Anonymous No.]

* TWITCH TALLY OF THE DAY *

- 11-Jun
> 20,477 : Ine (KR Isegye Idol)
> 17,396 : VIichan (KR Isegye Idol)
> 12,567 : Shoto (EN Indie)
> 9,666 : Jingburger (KR Isegye Idol)
> 9,058 : Lilpa (KR Isegye Idol)
> 8,192 : Ratna Petit (JP Nijisanji)
> 8,137 : zrush (CN Indie)
> 7,397 : RPR (EN SCARZ)
> 6,760 : Shylily (EN Indie)
> 6,172 : maoruya (KR Indie)
> 5,621 : Nachoneko (JP Indie)
> 5,019 : Kaga Sumire (JP VSPO)
> 4,041 : Zentreya (EN VShojo)
> 4,041 : KSP (CN Indie)

Comments here
>>25934194

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>>25939224
>JUNE 2022 TWITCH GOLD
1) VIichan (Isegye Idol) - 15,498 - Vocaloid WC React, Naver catchup
2) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 14,571 - VR Chat - tween model showcase
3) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 14,343 - Zatsu, React - Naver and clips catchup
4) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 16,556 - Zatsu, React - Naver and clips catchup
5) Kris Yim (Board of Trustees) - 19,915 - Black Mesa (Twitch main page)
6) Jingburger (Isegye Idol) - 15,804 - Voting in anime OST championship
7) Shoto (Indie) - 12,513 - Playing Unpacking
8) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 22,248 - Zatsu, React - Naver and clips catchup + The Spike
9) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 14,832 - Poolside VR Chat
10) Nimu (Indie) - 21,050 - Among Us, Zatsu (7,501 before Raid)
11) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 20,477 - Zatsu, React - Naver and clips catchup

>PER COMPANY
8x: Isegye Idol
2x: Indie
1x: Board of Trustees

>PER STREAMER
3x: Ine
2x: Gosegu
1x: Jingburger, Kris Yim, Lilpa, Nimu, VIichan

[Anonymous No.]

>>25939224
>6. Nyanners, Ironmouse and HarukaKaribu were in the LordAethelstan collab stream and only peaked at 3,775
MY FUCKING SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDES

[Anonymous No.]

>>25939276
i hope they fall into irrelevancy so they can fuck off and play couple somewhere else

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>>25938740
Probably a bit but it mostly because
1. Even tho Elira and Pomu collab a lot, 1on1 collabs are kind of rare
And 2. They are playing a popular horror game that is popular with girls too, so they get a lot of Luxiem tourists watching

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>>25939224
I like Zentreya so I wish more people watched her.

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>>25938378
Your posts are bad. They're not funny, clever or anything else, anon. Nobody cares about your larping. You're not going to convince anyone to watch her or stop watching her. All you're doing is displaying your mental illness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25939135
The fucking "it's morbing time" meme mind broke me so much that if someone says any variation of the word morb, I kek

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>>25937287
>gura streamed today already
>fauna takes the chance to colonize guras slot for a day
cheeky bitch

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>>25939267
VSJ golds... no....

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>>25939349
I can't wait for that guy to break up with her after he sucks her dry of every bit of relevancy she has then throws her to the side, only for her to come crawling back begging for forgiveness, throwing her shitty dignity away for more cuck money again

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>>25939490
There are ups and downs.
Zen settled on 4k for the last 3 days which, as you can see, is sadly quite a lot for Twitch EN chuubas.

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>>25938591
her last unarchived Karaoke was like 16k or something right? id be suprised if she cracks out similar numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25939224
>8,192 : Ratna Petit (JP Nijisanji)
What did Ratna do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25939585
Not in June, no.
Plus, Shoto has as many medals as the whole group

Shoto - 1 / 2 / 1
All of VShojo - 0 / 2 / 2

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>>25939267
So many
>Zatsu, React - Naver and clips catchup

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>>25939632
Wasn't the 16k her first unarchived english karaoke so it was buffed numbers?

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>>25939689
Rust arc is strong yo.
Nose had 9k a couple of days ago too.

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>>25937487
8 PM EST

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>>25939632
We thought the same thing with Uki too, but well, you see how that's going over there. It seems like for whatever reason, 6 million NijiEN fans appear when a karaoke happens

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>>25937264
>13,703: Kobo (Holo ID)
>13,459: Sana (Holo EN)
>13,318: Vox (Niji EN)
KEK

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>>25938740
Nothing else on and it's a fun stream. If you check the overlap later you'll be able to see if many Holo fans are watching. if you see Gura in like the 8th or 9th spot they were. If not, it was only a small fraction of the total audience.

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>>25939276
Nyan actually went full tradwife
>She sees Aethel's streams as more important than hers, means she sees him as the breadwinner
>Her obvious cocklust on stream shows she's definitely the submissive one
>Happily made Aethel a sandwich while he was streaming
>She seems to be letting him call the shots for house related stuff
>She didn't react well to Aethel joking about breaking up with her; Shows that she's basically attached herself to him
>One of the few streams she's even done recently anymore was a cooking one which is a sign she's taking up tradwife hobbies/responsibilities
>Already is agreeing with Aethel's opinions by default because she sees him as her superior
>Tarot card reading stream literally told her to cling onto Aethel, get breeded by him, and have lots of kids

Kinda sad to see but makes me wonder how many of these girls would take that kind of life if they could get it.

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>>25939491
Your oshi is whore

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>>25939735
Didn't know how else to call them.
Since Twitch doesn't have proper scheduling like YT, the first hour of a stream is usually free chat, waiting for everyone to get in the stream.
Then 1-2 hours of Reddit recap/naver catchup/hashtag check, or whatever to see what fans and others think of their stream.
Like live EgoSurf. With Isegye having their own naver page, where they look up fanart and clips of themselves, but also the other girls, to catch up with what they did.
Special streams like vr usually don't have this part, but long, 5+hours stream will have all 3 and another chat portion at the end. So i end up listing everything that was close to the peak.

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>>25939632
If Fulgur's ASMR is short she will have very little overlap so maybe?

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>>25940040
Isn't he kind of a shitter numbers wise? Not even dating Nyanners has really made him popular.

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>>25940073
What is a naver?

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>>25940040
and how does he feel about that? does it make him happy? because this feels like I'm dating my daughter not a grown ass woman, not even tradwives are this bad

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>>25940040
I wish I was Aethel.

[Anonymous No.]

What is that thing Fauna's playing, is that same company as Obra Din?

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>>25940198
ew

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>>25940104
1-3k is really good in the vtuber sphere, he probably makes more money from his music though.

But let's be honest, it's nothing compared to her success.

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>>25940160
https://www.naver.com/
Website.
Koreans use it as Yahoo/news/reddit/Tumblr

[Anonymous No.]

>>25940160
a korean google and reddit combo, has subforums kinda like reddit does

[Anonymous No.]

>>25940209
Nah, looks like a company that makes short horror games

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>>25937287
is okay to stream when Gura is not streaming, the only one I hate is Bae that never let's it go no matter how painful her numbers look

[Anonymous No.]

Pomu raid 4k to Millie (her stream just started).

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SEEDS 4 year anniversary streams are doing really well huh. shame that a few of those are premiere streams, otherwise they would dominate the tally

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>>25940801
Another raid from whoever's fanbase is called "Quildron".

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>Millie 7k on a SHILLSTREAM
Holy shit the flip is getting so strong!

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>>25940874
Assuming all the remaining streams for the anniversary get at least 10k that would make 16 Niji streams on the tally and thats a lot

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>>25941012
kek, all it took was two raids from about 11k worth of departing streams to push her up from 3 digits

[Anonymous No.]

>Schedule the one thing your fans have been begging for months
>Quadruple your view count
>Funnel it into your colleagues sponsored stream
lol NijiEN are basically scamming sponsorship deals with this shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>25941012
Being raided doesn't make you strong at all. It does give you numbers though, so that's still not bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25941142
lol learn to play the game, scrub
investors are just money machines, make them happy before they realize they're being scammed

[Anonymous No.]

>>25941142
isn't this a positive for the sponsor? more exposure

[Anonymous No.]

>>25941247
Depends how the sponsorship works. Some have bonusses for hitting certain ccv points.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Millie's last week the biggest NijiEN (female) week ever?
>Two handcam streams 3k and 4k
>Trio collab solo pov 4.4k
>Creative comedy collab 9k
>Shillstream raided to 7k
It almost has to be right?

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>>25941247
Not sure they want to pay full rate for someone who fucks off after 30 seconds.

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>>25941142
Yes? Good on them to putting viewers into a sponsorship stream. Its smart.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkGTs3TMSTQ
Yui new cover reached 100k in 11 hours!

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>>25940005
10th, below even Reimu
Surprisingly no male overlaps showing

[Anonymous No.]

Anon... Why the fuck the sponsor wouldn't like that? Pomu/Ike are literally funneling their audience to their paid stream without getting paid

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>>25941306
No, Millie once got to 13k on a single stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25941350
The botted stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>25941339
They have contracts they need to follow, also this >>25941291

[Anonymous No.]

>>25941429
I'm sure you know the fine details of whatever contract they signed

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>>25941350
Yeah yeah I know that this thread botted her once, but I was talking about a whole week, and one weeks median CCV. I think this might be the most buffed female NijiEN week ever

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>>25941339
It is quite possibly the clearest indicator that they don't give a shit about their audience and see them as money
It's essentially forcing your viewers to watch someone elses ad

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>>25941518
>It's essentially forcing your viewers to watch someone else's ad
You can't just close the tab, anon...
They're just directing their audience to their friend like they always do (Millie is the only Nijien member streaming right now)

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>>25941515
Buffed not by herself, but by the rest of the branch

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>>25941622
Look, you don't get it. When Holos raid each other, it's super based. But when Nijis do it, they're taking advantage of their audience. Capiche?

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>>25941335
It's not surprising, they very rarely have male fans without having one of the guys. Alban is the only one that has any real overlap with the girls (besides Nina/Reimu) and even he will usually show up at 8-9-10.

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>>25941326
Happy for my wife!

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>>25941687
>When Holos raid each other, it's super based
Example of when this happened in a sponsored stream?

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>the popular members keep on shilling and raiding the unpopular members
>this doesn't make the unpopular members more popular, it just makes the viewers of the popular members sick of constantly seeing the unpopular members (who are unpopular for a reason) causing them to lose interest in the branch as a whole
NijiEN is basically Vtuber communism

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I thought we agreed raiding was good last month

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>>25941728
I don't really see what the big deal is supposed to be. They're just being supportive of their branch mates because they have a lot of crossover instead of crushing their sponsored stream. They would have done the same thing and stopped the stream even if the raid didn't exist. Some of them even tweet the other girls streams out to their fans and shit too. They've known each other for years for the most part so generally want to see each other do well and foster an environment where everyone supports everyone.

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>>25941692
>Alban is the only one that has any real overlap with the girls
Why is that? I dont doubt it because I have seen it to in those overlap charts. But just from reading the NijiEN thread Luca/Fulgur seems to be more popular during the girls hours, but it is always Alban that has the overlap

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>>25941335
Despite how much Nijifags cope there is absolutely zero overlap between them and they all seethe inside at mixed gender collabs

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>>25941822
I don't like when Nijis use it

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>>25941765
>>25941765
>this doesn't make the unpopular members more popular, it just makes the viewers of the popular members sick of constantly seeing the unpopular members (who are unpopular for a reason) causing them to lose interest in the branch as a whole
That's quite interesting, do you have any data backing this? I would like to see it

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>>25941765
You do know that it is possible to exist a stream even from a raid right? You really think there are pomudachis and Ike viewers that are silently seething in Millie's stream right now?

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>>25941822
Raids have never been good because they defeat the entire point of this thread since we use peak CCV. It was bad when Bae got raided, it's bad when Millie and Fulgur get raided.

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>>25941849
I don't seethe at them but where people in NijiEN actually stream I get like 60hrs of content a week just between having two females to follow and there is no way I am picking a guy over a cute girl unless they are playing something incredibly rare.

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>>25941092
>>25941012
"strong"
lmao pathetic.

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>>25941842
I don't really know. My best guess is because he's the most popular Noctyx and he streams pretty often in NA times, so he has just enough fan overlap to nudge his way into the girls charts sometimes. It does not extend the other way. His own charts are wall-to-wall dudes, every stream.

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>>25941906
Enjoy your 60 hours of flirting and off-pako cucky

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>>25941765
Based, I don't get why Nijis can't understand this. When Holos do it, we know it's because they are a loving family that is very supportive of each other. But when Nijis do it? They're just going to make their audience hate them and kill the branch!

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>>25941944
What you don't seem to be considerin is that the girls fanbases are quite a bit smaller too. If 10% of Millie's chat watches Fulgur then then thats 100 people. If 10% of Vox's audience watches Fulgur then thats 1000 people in his chat so is going to be a much higher percentage on the chart by default.

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>>25941822
never happened. it's shit for numbers, ruining peaks

[Anonymous No.]

You almost never see daily SC charts in these threads anymore. Was Rushia's death or Vox supa ascent the reason for that?
It used to be as common as the daily gold lists

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>>25942060
nobody is doing it is all. the numbers are available, feel free to compile

[Anonymous No.]

Gold assured tomorrow
https://youtu.be/PAws_I0JGI0

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>>25942060
Niji kept winning so superchat doesn't matter anymore. Holofags now say merch is more important even though they all used to call cope when Nijifags would tell them it was obvious these companies made way more on merch when Holo was ontop of superchat all the time.

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>>25942042
>Vox
>10k
Nijisister....I....

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>>25941687
Go the fuck back to your thread, fujoshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942148
I mean its probably a lot more than that. Not everyone shows up to every stream so it might be more like 20k people?

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>>25941822
Good for the streamers, shit for the thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942192
But I'm not wrong

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>>25942042
What do you mean by I'm not considering that?

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>>25942060
Luxiem mindbroke this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942060
They are monthly now, stupid nigger. Go back to the thread from June 1st and you will see it. Vox won btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942060
SC chart anon didn’t feel so good after rushia death. He said he’d do it monthly or something but never showed up for april or may

[Anonymous No.]

>>25941765
so holojp?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942233
Repeating something will not make you right

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>>25942138

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>>25942234
The point I am making is its a lot harder for the girls to get on the males charts than it is for the males to get on the girls charts by virtue of the sizes of their audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25941306
>back to 3k in 20 min

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942060
I think it's more Vox and other male vtubers filling up the list that made people lose interest in it. There's not much point in having a horse race with a bunch of horses you don't give a shit about. Anyone is welcome to post it if they want.

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>>25942273
does holojp even use raid function?

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>>25942060
I used to just post a screencap of the 15 from Playboard but people bitched that so-and-so was missing and Playboard is fucking retarded and doesn't have all the Vtubers listed under the 'Vtuber' category so it's way more of a pain in the ass than it should be.

[Anonymous No.]

Here are some numbers around Salome's clippers. This is sorted by total views with Salome, with some numbers around the channel.

Channel Total Clips Salome Clips Total Views Salome Views Salome %
UCVbeHt0tnKLn94ypFqdTidw 60 60 4,840,013 4,840,013 100.0%
UCP3LeHi4J0jOHyrA02aahpQ 365 9 26,430,504 2,529,927 9.6%
UC0dPONsDwaAS0THJ9MZZoIQ 81 21 3,748,159 2,244,690 59.9%
UCYbyDR1JPGCw3eDhIX8a3HQ 84 11 7,448,676 2,202,216 29.6%
UC9ei8Md-AeYnnvPisB_hG0A 62 12 9,636,955 2,140,941 22.2%
UCTk7oeLeSCOO4Kb14-pHWYA 549 2 118,508,633 1,904,380 1.6%
UCurCD5CZFluZu7Szcc8WXXg 318 4 143,655,894 1,817,468 1.3%
UC4pRflMbspg-5JMMRWWu-9g 149 11 6,340,085 1,639,097 25.9%
UCY_3snAJ6ppFp1HGRppBt-g 29 29 1,605,164 1,605,164 100.0%
UCeoFz8p5HzS9k7RFrlTZ-EQ 758 14 55,391,297 1,521,602 2.7%
UC_T8F2CvqZOwa2kme0WwRhg 747 1 106,211,710 1,205,227 1.1%
UCTEffChJct6m2Da4AYSGF5A 1232 32 24,055,542 1,141,498 4.7%
UCPdy0U-liU_c_2WiFntRfzA 41 19 1,123,890 1,115,873 99.3%
UCSy4ovsHKC3OsmO3gfSupLw 388 5 52,353,332 1,046,352 2.0%
UCqWo0kCEK6ZQ1hM_NLFhYaA 512 4 51,591,420 1,035,307 2.0%
UCHYOU7u9gTHfzETAYBSnhDw 176 4 14,161,974 980,345 6.9%
UCeuNlK0yX-6_4930q0JUGNw 952 3 130,340,850 879,996 0.7%
UCZN_yTZNc3IsZaoRUoav2jA 65 2 26,839,387 771,780 2.9%
UCih9_CxhVBeamrHErM3qVlw 355 5 46,792,603 766,678 1.6%
UClgnCQJmkwUytgEHu-32OQA 142 1 74,497,404 759,263 1.0%
UCqwNLpNEtNf7PYc_Kh7SOMw 147 2 76,357,302 667,954 0.9%
UC19A4IO0rHI3mseJEAOMgcQ 21 1 1,066,162 610,152 57.2%
UCUq6BqMX6nthKI3t698Rcaw 438 7 70,136,792 605,363 0.9%
UCP_JqBPnBipx_ZIrbe2jFpg 182 3 22,853,851 591,960 2.6%
UCpVJR3HcV159uUYHHcfideQ 54 1 15,238,308 558,883 3.7%
UCTMX5uapPG7aDJ4Q8-uAaHQ 354 25 2,692,188 513,736 19.1%
UCLBaYdhowZ25yGbQzP-t3_A 603 15 15,168,921 505,849 3.3%
UCrfStwTl359tACtITSKwYVA 423 15 4,155,050 502,029 12.1%
UCEgdnRPf7jUNx6YhV2zVBjA 764 3 45,583,877 476,122 1.0%
UCX74--eReL-ndh-b2ywGAag 81 6 7,293,397 408,263 5.6%
UCQbPnCjvbJjXW6uhpCOjuUA 160 3 34,677,997 407,421 1.2%
UCfIjR2neqlh4KT-E0sM3FvQ 89 2 16,260,040 393,457 2.4%
UC7vbk2vyETp9ZbpWqDRvAVg 348 2 30,860,290 389,893 1.3%
UCsyA0SGTFgiJ8S2qV0-VDbA 56 1 3,592,202 363,411 10.1%
UCcImYKnFoOh00bTNpNAShPw 147 20 3,238,679 351,657 10.9%
UCLCy2HgM3eBD9S_HuyZ5ZyQ 390 11 20,126,756 324,345 1.6%
UCTspbVadzvTyq7hyFiZK-ZQ 235 12 10,296,341 322,382 3.1%
UCPLWh2dIcQOlnDoalTdWVBg 333 6 13,923,619 271,896 2.0%
UCse6cwvJEOCZUOdq3WAcYNA 507 1 15,961,956 270,477 1.7%
UCvX5WR21vRQtA9Fy9GVcGDw 599 5 20,302,184 260,497 1.3%
UCG65Bspo5wXMoOARHlFjKNg 37 37 244,989 244,989 100.0%
UC48wDIKM2u9_KkNUcar4MTw 514 10 6,831,751 235,572 3.4%
UCGWNMa7DzNOgZYXxc4KQojg 84 15 1,101,969 235,158 21.3%
UCz7apX1IlKRY83eMsYZ4rXg 315 2 24,781,860 213,832 0.9%
UCqogaw5RsZg36oWNOQvo8Ew 142 14 2,942,082 203,530 6.9%
UC7Z5V8tC3Awv6UCgC9fnI_g 676 9 7,651,095 202,328 2.6%
UC0pzFKYTTsAsWOhgEsHghkA 720 4 5,102,889 158,742 3.1%
UChL4PpkHZf--eaXk582o_ww 402 2 41,036,797 149,659 0.4%
UCJBzoYg5pMColM0GP6AWpaQ 75 2 1,822,784 142,997 7.8%

There are some things you can read from this, though drawing conclusions is dubious. For one, you can have a look at the catalog of each channel to have a better look, as these numbers don't have enough context around them.
For example, There are several channels (17 out of the 194 in this sample) that mention Salome in every video they posted. The top one however, is an interesting case. The spread of views amongst their clips is very large (jumps from 5k to 500k), as most of their viewers are (presumably) through recommendations. Their subscribers at almost 7k support this. Their viral clips are spread out, resembling something of a rollercoaster. Is this botting? Probably not, and is likely just an artifact of the recommendation system.
Otherwise, there's a mix of established clippers and bandwagoners. Looking at the percentage, there are a few that have eclipsed their previous catalog with at a fraction of the clip count. This does infer an expression of interest, but doesn't exclude a botting operation either.

tl;dr - No conclusions but interesting to look at nonetheless. I'll keep fiddling with the numbers in the meantime (probably with other vtubers), and maybe you should too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942289
So it's not cool for Holos to raid each other? Why is that? I thought they were one big happy supportive family...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942369
Why don't you kill yourself? Go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942327
When you know there was a scam SC in Luxiem fanbase it ruins the fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942368
Thanks, this is very easy to read, my eyes are totally not getting fucked there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25941849
I was willing to give males a chance but they just aren't entertaining to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942368
please take a screenshot next time

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942320
For the top 5-6 spots yeah but people like Sonny and Covid aren't exactly lighting up the subs or CCV charts. The girls, even the most popular ones, virtually never get even 8th, 9th, or 10th. Only occasionally Reimu for Vox stuff and Nina for Mysta stuff. Likewise even the guys with their much more populous fandoms almost never get 1 spot on the girls charts, except the aforementioned Alban for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942363
I've never seen or heard of a single example of them doing it. I'm not even sure Niji JP does it. Maybe when they interact with foreigners (like Oliver) but not with each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>Apex Matsuri
>1k
>random dead hours Matsuri's stream
>almost 5k
Amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25939276
that still a lot for a cuckstream

[Anonymous No.]

>71108 -> 48382 -> 28592
Tick tock, holokeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942421
Vox was entertaining for like the first week where he was doing Sekiro speedruns and stuff
Shame he realised he would get 10 times more viewers and money from just being a manwhore

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942368
I kind of wish Salami would just hurry up and go be a 15k streamer or whatever she's gonna settle at so we can stop caring about her 90% of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25941687
yeah of course.
i remember ame raided kaela, boosting her CCV from 3.9k to 7k. it stayed 5-6k ish for about 3 hrs. while playing mobile moba.
that's the good way to do the raid function imo

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942426
>>25942420
Sorry keep forgetting that this site fucks with formatting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942240
What I liked about the daily lists was that you sometimes could see smaller chuubas that had something big happen to them on those. Most of the time birthdays and milestones but sometimes other things too, like some 3view unexpectedly catching some massive superchat meme out of nowhere and getting more in a day than in months earlier. Or "why did Ars/Polka/Bae get so much today?" "Oh it was a breakdown on stream and she got showered with supas" and things like that
With the monthlys those doesnt get noticed because it is always Vox, Chloe, Kanata etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942524
She's everyone 28th favorite. Just needs the right circumstances to shine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25941687
Because NijiEN is so fucking bad at raids

[Anonymous No.]

So legit question, why the seethe over some NijiEN using raid function? they are giving even more eyes than normal to a sponsorship stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942597
Yeah I liked that too but people put too much stock into who is on the #1 spot. There's more to watching and analyzing the vtuber industry than "who got the most today".

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942636
how are they bad at raids? I didnt even know you could be bad at it.
as far as i have seen, they raid the ones who have the least views and are still streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942647
Who's seething? At most you see people saying that it's bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942589
this is actually useless

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942647
Because Niji is le bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942367
>Uki tagged with #NINTENDO
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942689
If you can't keep the viewers, you're bad at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942060
Feel free to post them, but you'll find a lot fewer people care. Between things like merch numbers getting revealed and gifted memberships being added people lost interest. You'll see them posted occasionally, but they're not as interesting as a horse race anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942138
>37 hours from now
That's the day after tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942270
I'm around and posted May's, just been having health issues lately so I can't commit to doing them daily, as soon as I can regular service will be resumed no matter who's on top. I honestly find it really funny when people assume I'm a butthurt biased holofag who stopped posting the charts because of Luxiem when my oshi doesn't have enough subs to be recorded by Playboard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942725
>he doesnt know about Uki x Nintendo
ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942647
Their sponsor is seeing a relatively massive number of people bail because they're not interested. That's not the kind of engagement metrics a sponsor wants for a sponsored stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942689
Raid the one with the lowest views: "They shouldn't do that, they're going to make their audience hate them!"
Raid the one with the highest viewers: "Stoooop that's illegal ccv boosting!"
Pick your cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942729
Better to throw the viewers somewhere even if the vast majority of them leave then just end the stream and have them disappear entirely isn't it? Your branchmate might get some new fans out of that who never gave them a try before.

[Anonymous No.]

These are the discordfags again

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942647
They're just raiding whoever happens to be live regardless of whether the content is a good match for the source stream, resulting in a big spike followed by everyone leaving, meaning peaks are no longer representative of interest
>But that's how Twitch streamers do it
Yes, and everyone here was doomposting about how shit it would be having that on YT before they added it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942774
I'm pretty sure they would rather have 3500 people watch all the way through than 500 people watching all the way through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942647
#1 because it's Niji EN
#2 It's not boosting someone an extra 30% it's boosting complete shitters up to 2-3-4X their natural CCV, enough to mess up their average and peak median at the end of the month in some cases.
#3 It's not raiding into compatible content that the viewers might enjoy, it's raiding into ASMR, SC streams, visual novels, the 2nd POV of a collab you were also in and is now ending (the worse I've seen so far) just to artificially puff up the numbers temporarily, even knowing up to 90% of the people will leave immediately. Raiding Millie's stream at the start is one of the less egregious things I've seen and it still had a massive dropoff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942784
True, but doesn't change the fact that they are bad at remaining the viewers.
Maybe in the future it will improve, but now, they suck

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942817
huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942774
Raids almost always end up like this, on twitch you're lucky to keep 10% of a raid
if the sponsor sees that as a red flag they're retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942647
because there is minimal retention and they also do them to a collab partner who is ending at the same time.
so you end up with inflated peaks

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942866
Before the raids started Millie was at 500 viewers, now she is getting near to the end and she is at 3.5k. They got an extra 3000 eyes on their game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942866
Before the raids, Millie was at ~600 viewers.
Now, way after the raids, Millie is staying stable at around 3.5k

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942817
Given her slope when the raid happened and the fact that she has no other competition for this timeslot, she likely would have reached 3k on her own without raiding just from people switching over to her stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942647
I don't really care for the most part, but it makes numbers less interesting and leads to more bait posts whether it's about viewers abandoning the stream or about how "X is inclining past whore Z" which these threads didn't need more of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942888
I understand Millie thought she was just helping a friend that usually gets like 100 viewers get some extra exposure but this is still bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942882
I take it you haven't seen HoloEN raids then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942920
>>25942897
no, but like, i think she's a sub 2k viewer chuuba right? why so low

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942897
you don't how much of that she would have got as people trickled in since she had her first raid 6 mins after starting and a second one 8 mins after starting

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942897
Reimu got around 2.5k without a raid, but even assuming Millie would get the same keeping 1000 viewers extra viewers is actually pretty good

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942524
>Matsuri can get viewers when nobody else is live
Yeah... I guess?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942934
Nah, probably like 1700, getting 3k is super fucking difficult for Millie and sponsored content isn't a draw.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are people discussing a raid? Who the fuck cares? Why do people pay attention to shitposters derailing the thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942978
Because it's a sponsored stream that was initially being overlapped by two bigger streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942524
surprised she isn't watching sneeds24 kino

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942888
>>25942944
For this thread it is annoying but for Layla is is a really nice thing to do since it helps her with youtube algo and ads. If it was the other way around yeah it is pure numberfagging but in this case it really is just a friendly bump to help someone out essentially what raids are meant to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942882
>>25942968
For context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943005
Getting 3k when overlapped is difficult for Millie. That's not the case here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942968
HoloEN is still stupidly strong and their viewers would have funneled to the next stream raid or not

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943005
>getting 3k is super fucking difficult for Millie
Unless /#/ gets involved!

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943031
Nothing else interresting is happening, what is even being derailed? atleast people are talking about numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942888
This one I can agree is retarded because its a collab partner and they just ended their stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943085
She still struggles to get 3k unless she's doing some kind of creatividad handcam stream or playing minecraft

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943067
What was great about this raid is the Mumei was the one who raided, and she didn't join Mumei in Minecraft until like 2 hours later. Meaning that all the people who were watching Mumei just stayed watching Bae play MC with other HoloENs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943067
There are Nijiraids like that too though where basically everyone stays.
Elira raiding Enna for example
https://vrabi.net/video/HDPvSWCYwV8

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943281
That is like a 600 people raid to a stream that was already inclining though.

[Anonymous No.]

Millie would reach at least 2k if reimu of all people did. For sponsorships they have been trying to give space and no overlap lately in NijiEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943327
What is that supposed to mean? Bae is inclining on hers too so the raid doesn't count?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943399
Only Holo raids count, Niji raids are cheating and don't count

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942138
Saving this for when she can't beat part 12 of salome's re

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943416
The holoEN ones are rare and have all been to people streaming similar content, with extremely high retention
Stuff like >>25942888 is just barefaced numberfagging

[Anonymous No.]

June superchats so far
>Salome - $93,556
>Mio - $54,419
>Watame - $42,260
>Iroha - $41,181
>Masaru - $38,524
>Vox - $38,219
>Lui - $32,636

[Anonymous No.]

tfw every HoloEN raid has kept their viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943594
niji domination

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943594
Watame got over 3000 gifted memberships so feel free to calculate that in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943630
Yes, in the example you posted they all stayed for 40 minutes to watch the stream content, then started leaving once she switched to reading superchats

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943534
It’s not even just numberfagging. It’s complete abscence of reading the room. They fucking raided a literal ASMR stream. Like, you’re not just numberfagging by boosting the peak but you’re completely destroying the atmosphere for that streamer AND disrespecting your own viewers by sending them to extremely niche content just because “you want to support”

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943630
There is a smaller scale raid from Bae to Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943670
Assuming those were all in yen that doesn't even take her above Mio

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943630
because the stream is related to the previous (mumei was talking about fauna when fauna raided her) it's not that hard to understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943829
that's the exact point being made

[Anonymous No.]

Guys we're literally rehashing the same discussion we had about this the last time we did it why are you-
>only 53 IPs
oh ffs it's probably the exact same people arguing as last time

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943534
Agreed, it should only count if it fulfills some specific conditions like rarity and content similarity. It shouldn't count if it doesn't fulfill those types of conditions. Don't question why, it's just how it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943726
>disrespecting your own viewers by sending them to extremely niche content just because “you want to support”
bro... just close the tab... It's not that hard, you're not forced to watch or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942647
fucks with schizo posting about bot count, since of course said schizos don't watch the stream and see the sharp spike and assume "LE BOTS"

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943534
I doubt the point of that was peak number, like what difference is that actually going to make to anyone? Probably the thought process was more like if I send them to the channel they are more likely to subscribe then if I just say go do it.

[Anonymous No.]

Who is Salome pulling numbers away from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943594
Chloe finna make 100k in 1 one day

[Anonymous No.]

Gura 300k get

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943852
The only real problem is people seething about peak CCV being even more pointless than it was before. The rest of it is just a bunch of cope to try give a justification outside of "its bad because it screws with our number metrics".

[Anonymous No.]

how many ccv did the holoalt pv premiere get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943935
How many goddamn fucking times do we have to explain that Salome's viewerbase is comprised almost entirely of FOTM normalfags if you don't believe the bot narrative. Literally nobody in the Niji or Holobox loses or gains viewers when she streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943985
Imagine if the stream was actually good

[Anonymous No.]

I'm new to this thread, so... Why the fuck do you guys use peak CCV instead of average CCV? Isn't average CCV objectively better to determine if a stream "succeed" or not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943946
Unlikely when 100 yen curently equals 74 fucking cents

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943985
It's quite fast consider the length of the stream, and probably a bunch of NA viewers are catching up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944056
Most tracking sites didn't carry average CCV for non holo streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943985
Shion also got another 165k on her pov. Pretty succesful collab from the two of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944056
Both suck, because long-ass superchat readings after the main stream content is over drags down the average.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944056
No, because it penalizes people who do superchat readings
This is why people are seething about raid spam, because now peak CCV also doesn't tell you anything useful

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944056
Because youtube doesn't work like twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>25941822
Raids are terrible and they destroy your audience retention if over used. People figure out what you're doing and they become resistant

[Anonymous No.]

In the end all we really care about are the Salome, Miko, Pekora, Kuzuha, Vox, Gura, and Kobos of the world. Nobody gives a fuck if some 4view shitter gets pumped to 10k ccv and loses half of it in 5 minutes. Only the big hitters matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944374
>Nobody gives a fuck if some 4view shitter gets pumped to 10k ccv and loses half of it in 5 minutes
NijiEN...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944374
Me but only Pekora Salome Kuzuha and emperor, don't give a single flying fuck about the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944454
>Emperor
Whomst

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944512
Hal, although I forget how he acquired that nickname

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944056
The real reason is because it's not a horse race with average CCV, you have to wait until the stream is over to grab that metric. Most of the people who care about gold, or even just pretend to care, want a horse race where they can see who's 'winning' in real time

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944512
Tentei Forte, one of the new-ish Neoporte members

[Anonymous No.]

Is it just be, or has Hololive's funneling been completely on point recently? They haven't dropped the momentum at all on the JP side

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944512
Absolute newfag, I am one myself and even I know about him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944610
You could calculate approximate watch time based on the CCV throughout the stream. This would also be the closest /#/ has ever got to an actually relevant number, since it's what marketers and sponsors care about
You'd have to write something to figure it out yourself rather than just copy/pasting numbers from a website though

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944512
holy newfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943804
>We should leave over 10 thousand usd off because we're lazy.
May as well just say you're only trying to shitpost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944512
Coco

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944374
>we

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944776
Feel free to observe every gifted sub to every channel and add it into the superchat tally then.
You're not lazy right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944512
The one who stands above the King.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944776
The problem with memberships is you can only reliably count them in the month they first join
Gura is making a ridiculous amount of money from members and it's basically invisible on all the numberfag websites

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is this game that 4k people are waiting for it?

[Anonymous No.]

The real reason /#/ is reclining is because newfag tourists can't be bothered to actually do data collection, so 99% of the thread is just shitposters pointing to Peak CCV since it's the most visible number

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945002
Woah, is this going to be her biggest gaming stream ever?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944870
Hololyzer track gifted memberships so it's not like it's difficult. Also I'm not the retard posting an SC tally.
>>25944883
Yeah but I was talking about the act of gifting the memberships since you can see them sent out in 5/10/20 unit bundles. If someone that donates in yen tosses a 20 it's 9,800 yen.

[Anonymous No.]

chicken still trending

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945002
I don't think it's the game, there's 1600 more people in the waiting room than the game has steam reviews

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945002
Markiplier played it not that long about, maybe it's a trend amount horror game YouTube?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945002
Saplings don't care. They'll tune in for whatever, unless it's superchat reading.
Fauna is similar to Ina in that regard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945086
anon...

[Anonymous No.]

Somewhat flew under the radar, but the Hololive channel got 2.7 million views over the past 14 hours across their content last night

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945075
>Hololyzer track gifted memberships
Does it track gifted memberships for free chats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945086
I know this is a shitpost but it brings to mind a real question. How hard can Kiara shill her channel to Germans? Is German Twitter big? Who's the most popular German streamer to use as a bar of comparison?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945111
But this waiting room was like 2k above her usual right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945137
That probably helps boost them in the algorithm. If HoloearthTV hits 1m views in a day too, that shit will entrench itself hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945185
she needs to play eurotruck/forklift sim for an hour every day at cest 9pm slot

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945231
Maybe two months ago..
She has inclined a lot

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945137
>1M views in like 4 hours
>not trending
Why does Susan hate Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945143
Doesn't seem to be set up to do so right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945185
German streams on Twitch doesn't look that great

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945185
>https://streamscharts.com/top-channels?lang=de&sortBy=views
Looks like its a guy named MontanaBlack88 at 35k average. So there's obviously a market even if it isn't huge

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945231
Literally no competition

[Anonymous No.]

green whore cant even beat the runt of noctyx
just graduate already

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945345
Youtube is deeply corrupt, and I'm not even joking, this shit is in the news right now because of their refusal to enforce their rules fairly. If someone within Youtube doesn't like anime they can just use their power over the algo to oppress it unilaterally.

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna sounds like any skinny uwu anime girl you find at high school

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945501
Who raided him this time

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945501
Baiting with a raided stream. Classic Fauna Schizo shenanigans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945345
while trending is almost certainly curated to some degree. I do think one of hololives biggest strengths is also the reason, that being its worldwide appeal since i would imagine getting viewers from all over could prevent it from showing up in trending since trending is location based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25937264
Thanks int tally anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945565
Millie

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945573
Wait, they raided ASMR stream again? Lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945565
Looks like it was Millie

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945653
what site is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945653
This looks like a raid and a Z at the same fucking time

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945653
raid into a Z. damn
>>25945686
really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945688
Masaka, have they learned how to wield the z??

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna 8k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945653
can't tell if that's a raid or a z

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945548
She's a twig who only wears skirts and loves tights. The Roesmi of HoloEN
>>25945699
I only use vrabi so I don't recognize this site

[Anonymous No.]

>it's another "talk into a regular microphone with an inside voice and call it ASMR episode"

For fuck's sake

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945770

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945770
>I only use vrabi so I don't recognize this site
anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945748
Looks like a standard 1080p stream to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945657
This is why people say they raid like a bunch of retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>Fauna decided to play it just because they got permissions
Who asked for them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945785
>>25945800
ah fuck, i should have known, dont really look at the other parts of the site

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945861
Gura mentioned it, might've been her.

[Anonymous No.]

There's no fucking way this green bitch is getting 10k with literally nothing happening on stream

[Anonymous No.]

but Ame MC raided Kaela's LoL stream and everyone was okay with it. The games were incompatible too

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945928
Kaela is just entertaining. Underrated hag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945748
Jeez, Fauna is basically at Ina level consistency with a slightly lower ceiling. I have been very impressed with her lately. Here is how I would rank Holo EN in streaming numbers power (not considering music or else Mori would probably be #2)

1. Gura
2. Ina
3. Kronii
4. Mumei
5. Fauna
6. Mori
7. IRyS
8. Amelia
9. Baelz
10. Kiara
11. Sana

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945861
gura mentioned it at the start of june so could have been her
https://youtu.be/5QPIaKu7hjo?t=2885

[Anonymous No.]

The most amusing part about Fauna schizo is him assuming that Fauna is a bad streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945928
It's literally OK when Holos do it, it's not OK when Nijis do it. It's not hard to understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945928
The viewers stayed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945885
Damn cucked out of first playing a game you requested permissions for.
Gotta suck

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945921
She's a great conversationalist, I'd say the best in the gen and on par with Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946040
Gura got cunny collab, so it's a fair deal

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946003
Simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945980
Swap IRyS and Ame.
With even conditions (split POV collabs) Ame'll always win against IRyS

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946040
she knows how long it takes to get perms so i imagine she just gives management a list and just checks what they have perms for every so often

[Anonymous No.]

EN3 needs 1 Miko, 2 Koyoris, and 2 Watames

Discuss theoretical numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946046
I'd put IRyS up there too. Kronii and Mumei are also really good when they have somebody to bounce off of but Gura, Fauna, and IRyS can just whip up topics out of nowhere and avoid any dead air at all. Those three are definitely the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945980
If Kiara and Bae overlap who would get the least viewers?
Bae usually gets killed by overlaps

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946161
>EN3 needs 1 Miko, 2 Koyoris
So three Mikos? Koyori is basically just old Miko, lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945996
She is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946181
Bae since if those two ever overlap it would be in EU hours since there is no way Kiara is staying up for Baes normal slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946127
I actually did struggle with the placing for both of them and who should get the higher spot. I determined that while Amelia certainly has a higher ceiling, IRyS is far more consistent so I gave it to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25944121
>>25944146
Wait, so what's wrong with penalizing superchat readings? If people don't stay for sc readings, that's just another indicator of how many people they have watching them. If someone debuffs themselves by playing a shitty game I don't see why that's not taken as an indication that people don't want to watch that type of content from that streamer. What's the difference with sc reading?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946213
I mean in the sense someone to become the heart of the EN holobox that can funnel into anyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946288
Nothing, I have no idea why anyone brings up SC readings as a counter point. They don't get high peak CCV anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945996
She's boring with no talent. Would be a 2view if not for hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946161
EN doesn’t need Koyori’s. No EN fan gives a shit about someone streaming 18 hours a day. People are busy and do shit and get back to VODs when they can.

What EN needs is a Mio. They need someone who can organize collabs and bring something exciting to the branch. You can’t just say “they need a Miko” because Miko is literally the greatest vtuber of all time. That shit doesn’t grow on trees

[Anonymous No.]

GOD BLESS FAUNA

Some of us have been screaming that when Gura doesn't stream somebody needs to take that 8pm EST/EDT time slot since you can't just leave the most valuable North American time slot empty when Gura doesn't feel like streaming. Surprise surprise, she is getting very good viewership even with this kusoge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946437
>No EN fan gives a shit about someone streaming 18 hours a day.
The box cares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946275
>IRyS
>Consistent
Excuse me, what? Have you seen her Hades numbers?
Her saving grace are karaokes and FoTMs, without them she'll be at Kiara's level.

[Anonymous No.]

10k get.

>>25946447
You have to take into account that she could only do this because she didn't have a schedule. If she did she'd probably be streaming earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946161
wtf is a watame? someone who makes shorts and music?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946447
cause noone is literally on bro. i'm waiting for Kronii MC and Fauna's my waiting room

[Anonymous No.]

And that's 10k for Fauna. Pretty good and still seems to be inclining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946518
Someone who builds a personality cult out of their chat

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946525
That's the point of good scheduling

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946555
isn't that like half of hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946518
Someone to look after all the mentally ill people because retards that come here think girls on the internet should be their carers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946619
hey man, that's honest work

[Anonymous No.]

On another note, Fulgur's actually doing pretty good. I guess labeling your shit ASMR just brings in chinks even in this shitty timezone. Or they're there to watch Uki and Millie shit up his chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945345
Youtube is currently in deepnshit over getting exposed for manipulating search results to favor their tranny devs preferred causes

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946369
>They don't get high peak CCV anyway
They are not talking about superchat reading streams
It is about end of stream superchat readings

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora waiting room up btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946288
Think of it this way: if someone has a consistent 10k viewers for the main content of their stream, but then drops to 3k for superchat reading, the average CCV gets worse the longer they spend reading superchat, but the level of interest in that stream's main content never changed
If you want a real world example go look at Koyori's morning show before and after she started splitting superchats into a separate stream

[Anonymous No.]

If Fulgur raids Elira's karaoke she will get more viewers than her first unarchived karaoke and it could be maybe the biggest female NijiEN stream, non debut

[Anonymous No.]

Guess that's four 10k streams for HoloEN if nothing weird happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946689
The hilarious thing, the thing they're being exposed over is the fact that they're actively protecting some guy who said shit like 'the pulse shooting should have killed more people, I hate the gays and they all deserve to die' and that's not an exaggeration. The dude also literally doxxed someone and called their mom to threaten their family. He admitted to doing this

Youtube refused to ban him and then demonetized anyone talking about it, and are threatening to terminate the first person who exposed the lack of enforcement of community guidelines. It blew up on twitter because of how obvious the corruption is to anyone who sees the situation

[Anonymous No.]

>>25945003
How ironic. You're not contributing anything with this comment too mf

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946687
huh, the title of his stream is the a reference to the catchphrase of the game Bae is playing, VA-11 Hall-A.
>Time to mix drinks and change lives!
Probably intentional since he's a VNfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946795
He can't do that, that's cheating and shouldn't count

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946795
Enna got over 20k on a nijiworld relay karaoke thing, so no chance I think

[Anonymous No.]

>>25943985
UOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946893
He unironically shouldn't, and not because of weird numberfag honor code but because sending ASMR viewers into a karaoke is extremely retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946704
>Open the frame
>Check chat
>All english comments are fucking grays
Why are kaigainiki like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946968
Is it even "real asmr" that he is doing though? i doubt anyone is using it to relax and fall asleep to from what people are writing about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947017
He's talking non-stop, and not even whispering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947105
Jesus, so it's actually a clickbait stream too?

The absolute state of NijiEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946386
I'm sad nobody took this bait, it's funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946689
>>25946834
Wait, what? Sauce for that

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947206
It's no different from Mori's ASMR a couple of weeks ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947309
Even Mori's ASMR a couple weeks ago was slightly better

[Anonymous No.]

>11k playing this game

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna 11k

[Anonymous No.]

>3 times lower the views despite having almost the same time length
Gura and EN boost Israel
ENschizo on suicide watch!

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947403
>animation vs shitty craftopia clone
cool man

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947309
Mori used oil and an ASMR mic anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>11k on this tripe
There is not god

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947490
God is a sapling

[Anonymous No.]

this game is so dumb lmao and it gets a 11k

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947253
>https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-the-act-man-vs-quantum-tv-saga-youtube-failing-content-creators
>Quantum TV violated TOS and incited his band of followers who stood against his critics. As detailed by The Act Man, Quantum TV refused any form of vocal dialogue between himself and The Act Man. Quantum TV violated TOS and community guidelines yet again by - [contacting Act Man’s mother twice] -. Quantum TV threatened legal action against The Act Man’s mother and - [insinuated thinly-veiled threats against The Act Man and his family] - .
>Quantum TV has a blog post and multiple social media accounts (that have now been deleted) where he posted some insanely inappropriate things. He has repeatedly called for the deaths of LGBTQ+ members, and when met with replies, he has asked people on numerous occasions to go kill themselves.
Emphasis mine. Take note, the person being deplatformed is the guy who made an expose video about this guy. Quantum TV is getting away with everything, the people inside Youtube can totally mess with the system however they want, fuck over whoever they don't like, and you would never know

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947403
the gameplay video is really not that impressive, I even dare to say that the part where the holos appear interacting in pre made cutscenes is very cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947552
markiplier got 3.5m vod views on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947008
Hey, I still have my 19 months membership though.
>>25947253
https://youtu.be/XnpeclN-W04
https://youtu.be/SOuc4AGxGpE
Great guy( though I hate his podcasts because motherfucking Nux is leeching off him), should be enough. In case this blows up more than this, we might see some non-triial changes later on that would possibly become yet another adpocalypse or some shit like this. The trannies might be helpful this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947552
>>25946555
>>25946547

>horror game
>basically only holo streaming rn

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947778
only reason i want more en gens is to have people here whine about a normal amount of overlap

[Anonymous No.]

don't mind fauna just casually mogging sykkuno

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946003
It's almost like nijis share the same twitch zoomer audience that just leaves after a raid
Is it possible to do that viewer overlap thing with salami but use it for nijis and twitch overlap

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947667
Have you ever watched his 3 horror games #? It's literally Kusoge 99% of the time, more often than not worse than Iron lung, and yet he keeps getting huge amount of views on his videos. Not that bad for an oldfag on the platform (I've been watching him since late 2013 and while he reclined a bit in quality since then, he has still some kino moments). The Chernobyl one was great though , hopefully some Holomember would bother playing it.

[Anonymous No.]

wait will Salome fight against Chloe 3D debut? shit is going to be intense

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947834
I wish Susan didn't hate vtubers so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947847
no, you can't match twitch user and yt user account that is 100% accurate

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947911
Fuck no. Like, a hard no. Even if you give her the benefit of the doubt and say she gets 90k+, Chloe is almost guaranteed 120k+ for her 3D. She’s by far one of the most popular HoloX members despite middling ccv, and her design is like pure JOP fapbait so it should not even be a contest

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947911
Is Chloe 3d, that's above 140k 150k by default with tonss of SC and orca kun

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947911
it's not even a contest
if iroha, a lowest performing holoX, got a fucking 120k then chloe will be much more
salome normal streams are just 80k-100k range now

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947834
Why is Sykkuno's viewership drop this much?
I don't recall Ludwig drop that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947634
It's weird to see that Youtube on the opposite side of lettering community

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947834
>mogging Gura's bf
she won't be happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947911
my wife gotalu had 123K on her 3D debut so i bet kuroe will get more for sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947911
Hololive has used hype to steal tourist attention lately, Chloe will rob Salome of all her followers with her 3D and convert them into her Gachis

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948045
She fell off. And she will keep falling off, because the thunder has been stolen

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948133
and then Artia will appear and apologize to Coco and all of us will clap

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948133
>salome followers
>turn into gachis
anon.. they are poorfags at most
theg barely even sc salome lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947834
Dude fell off after amogus died

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947911
According to the schedule she wont start at monday morning, she'll start at Sunday night an hour before midnight so probably not

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna only seem to have lost like 500 viewers to Kronii starting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948296 see >>25943594

[Anonymous No.]

>bleeding viewers to the better streamer/game
Good

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948360
>Less than double the SC with more than 10x the CCV
You're a joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>25947968
Fauna, Kronii, Fulgur, and Elira all have more viewers than every single stream YouTube is showing me in the Live and Gaming sections but they're all nowhere to be seen
It's especially ridiculous because they're trying to compete with Twitch for this sort of content, they have a home-grown community of successful streamers already, but they're too embarrassed to let anyone see the anime

[Anonymous No.]

Dola 30k get

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948336
Yea I noticed that too. I honestly thought there would be more of a loss. Although I guess Kronii has always had her own seperate fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948439
I remember seeing Gura reached the Live and Gaming, rare but still made it.

[Anonymous No.]

The EN box is just large. When Fauna ends her stream, Kronii will incline hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948439
Is it because their channels are in the Japan category?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948360
It's a proportionality thing. Also, the Niji tourist audience loves to throw money for -Milestones and Celebrations-, and she hit 1m so fast and everything and max'd out early.

[Anonymous No.]

Poor Elira...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948509
Yeah, at 20+k, and a lot of times even those numbers aren't enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948550
I don't think so. I tried switching it to JP and it showed me Dola, Kanae, and Ars

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948509
maybe because the thumbnail appeals the general public rather than a niche
it's so western

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948627
>This is an unarchived stream!
>Sings japanese shit
She gets what she deserves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948439
Doesnt Kobo get on ID YouTube gaming pretty often?

[Anonymous No.]

The fact that Youtube JP promoted Salome should make it obvious the algo is compromised by Nijifags

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948634
they really hate vtubers huh

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii 10k with eating a banana.

[Anonymous No.]

10k for eating stream god damn kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948627
>Poor Elira
why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948739
I have no idea, but I do think EN gets different (worse) treatment, because >>25948677

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948740
Yea Niji Events go trending all the time with worse numbers than Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

kronii should be a mukbanger

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948740
No comprimised by China.

[Anonymous No.]

2 HoloENs at 10k and neither of them are Gura
rare occurence

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna schizo status?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948627
She has done this before and archived the stream afterwards after chat kept begging her to do so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948862
It really isn't a rare occurrence as long as people stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946518
Literally watch streams.

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii almost 11k just eating...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948895
>HoloEN streaming
rare occurence

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948740
Even if true, that's Cover's fault for not networking with the platform they're using. If one company can infiltrate YouTube and mess with the algorithm, than both companies can do it. Get some holofans into Youtube already

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948895
>as long as they don't stream weird indie debuff shit that Kronii LOVES to fucking play
Fix'd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948979
Filtering your audience is how you get a fanbase that isn't garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948916
tbf they're all waiting for MC to startup
It's more impressive that she's getting 11k while Fauna is still at 10k
I expected Fauna's numbers to drop like a rock

[Anonymous No.]

>200k likes for HoloAlt 2nd teaser under a day
That's impressive considering the first teaser has like 400k and the most likes a Holo has in a single vod is like 600k-800k. Can this be their first million likes?

[Anonymous No.]

>Ame, Mori and Kiara can no longer get 10k consistently
>Kronii, Fauna and Mumei some how can
…. Gura’s clique is inclining, the rest besides Ina are stagnant

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949041
Fauna's gonna drop below 10k soon at least. This game needs more engagement but her hitting 11k in the first place is pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25946614
Even before membership gifts were introduced Watame's chat was 90% members, membersheep is a cult on a whole other level
Now gifting exists if you even think about clicking on a watame stream you'll get forcibly enlisted

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949058
Fauna is going to be a sub 7k shitter once Ina comes back.

[Anonymous No.]

didn't youtube contracted sykkuno to migrate on their platform for $30m? it's so embarrassing to see him getting mogged by anime girls lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949058
>>Ame, Mori and Kiara can no longer get 10k consistently
Kiara was never able to get 10k consistently
Ame reclined in 2021
Don't really remember Mori's numbers history, but she's also never been really consistent

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949183
he got 30m i dont think he cares lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949040
Bitch, where do you think we are?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I agree, but sometimes the HoloEN girls have taken it way too far without mixing in non-debuff shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948739
Yes, you can see her channel and if you see >400K views on her VOD then it mostly the case of that videos reached the trending page.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949153
If it happens it won't be because of Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

It's a Saturday night you retards, if this isn't a buff day then I don't know what is

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949183
Youtube is fucking desperate to have any streamers besides the ones they already have. They couldn't be fucked to take care of the people who actually succeed on their platform, they always want something else

[Anonymous No.]

>>25942368
There's a channel that clips only Salami? How big is it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949183
I wonder how much is due to how much YT culls CCV compared to twitch and how much is simply the twitch audience not migrating

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949183
>have your own exclusive free 30k+ streamers
>shit on them, throttle them, cull them and instead invest a fuckton of money into underperforming twitch shitters
Is Susan a retard?

[Anonymous No.]

nice suggestions susan
where the fuck are the holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949303
A lot of it has to do with the latter, but the former is a -10-15% debuff right from the start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949212
cover should threat YT that they're gonna migrate to twitch if they keep giving them poor treatment

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949354
One of those aren't even games kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949352
>Is Susan a retard?
Yes. We've known this for actual fucking years

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949354
>Live Now - Gaming
>100-viewer stream of relaxation sounds
>Two 10k video game streams absent

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949314
Susan wants Youtube to be seen as THE streaming site, not a site for Vtubers, parasocial relationships and toxic idol culture.

As a business strategy, it's a solid move, but it's also fucking bad for the hundreds of Vtubers who are literally carrying Youtube Streaming on their backs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949270
Fauna has inclined anyway. She wouldn't have pulled this off 2 months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949496
>Susan wants Youtube to be seen as THE streaming site
Then she should stop fucking manipulating the metrics. It's fucking transparent, everybody can clearly see it, especially streamers themselves. She's not being subtle or clever with it, so why even bother? Just improve the platform ffs, it's dogshit for streaming as it is currently..

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949496

[Anonymous No.]

What this!? Niji copied miko 24h stream? No wonder you always lose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949496
It's fucking bad for the people who actually watch streamers too. Youtube's idea of what streaming is must be fundamentally wrong, they want to succeed only if its a specific kind of streamer who the audiences don't give a fuck about

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949743
Who's Niji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949354
>live now
>one of the streams isn't even live
Susan...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949743
miko copied ponpoko 24h
like she copied wwe from ponpoko too

[Anonymous No.]

jwu from a nap, is faunaschizo seething yet

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna is STILL 10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949930
Should probably stay over it, she's close to the jump scare.

[Anonymous No.]

10k just doesn't excite me anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949973
someone needs to go browsing for 2views to cure his numberrot

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949743
they already did this once 4 years ago man

[Anonymous No.]

I was told Elira was gonna get EN gold... Anons I don't even see 5 numbers. . ..

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949973
hello fellow salomechad

[Anonymous No.]

>>25950208
Here you go
1
2
3
4
5
Five numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25950374

[Anonymous No.]

>gen 5 holo alt clip = 91k views
>EN & ID holo alt clip = 152k views
>uploaded at the same time
If anyone ever needed any more proof that EN and ID are far more popular than gen 5 despite getting less love from management, here it is.

[Anonymous No.]

i wonder what gen5 schizo does in his free time

[Anonymous No.]

I was told Kronii was gonna get gold... Anons I don't even see 20K. . ..

[Anonymous No.]

>>25950408
>English clips
>Recommended to EoP clip watchers

[Anonymous No.]

>>25948509
She's the only EN vtuber who's ever shown up and it's a somewhat recent change. Before even if she got higher numbers, she wouldn't pop-up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25950408
It's just the Nene debuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949973
Whenever I see people sperging out about EN failing to hit 10k I always just try to remind myself of when they were first announced and people thought they would be sub-3k shitters like ID.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25950408
>People prefer content focused on EN from an English clip channel.
Absolute shocker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25949744
>if its a specific kind of streamer who the audiences don't give a fuck about
They want the specific kind of streamer that the Twitch audience cares about. Twitch is synonymous with streaming in the west and that's where Youtube is seeking to expand its share, they don't care for Azns and barely tolerate things like kpop dominating numbers only because it's grown too big to kill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25950593
Why is YouTube unironically racist

[Anonymous No.]

Does Ike has a Birthday stream today that could beat Kiara?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25950408
Gen 5 is probably the least popular gen in the West. In terms of popularity it's probably Gen 4 > 3 > 1 > 2 > 6 > 5. Coco and Rushia leaving hurts but at their peaks 3 and 4 were always extremely popular in the West, while 1 has many iconic clips thanks to FBK, Matsuri, and Haato + Aki's reddit resurgence, while Gen 2 was the newest Gen (not counting Gaymers) when Hololive starting blowing thanks to the Azur Lame collab.

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>>25950667
Is he gonna have a second one?

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>>25947911
Shouldn't be a contest. Chloe is much more popular than Iroha and Iroha got 120k. Chloe should manage at least 130k and could go as high as 150k.

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>>25950667
Countdown to 1000 more subs, celebration of getting a sandwich

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>>25950462
Free time? lol

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>>25950718
Monday vs Friday tho

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>>25950698
the stream earlier was just the countdown, no? and he teased doing a karaoke sometime soon

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>>25950686
Gen 5 was actually the most popular up until HoloEN.
The main issue they had was Aloe getting fucked early on their career, which killed their momentum. Cover then sped up HoloEN to distract the audience, but then people latched on to them and never looked back at Gen 5.

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>>25950636
cause Susan has been shilling her dumbass yoga livestreams, makeup tutorial garbage streams and paying Twitch niggas to move over but they're still being beat by some autist playing a block game made for 7 year olds

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>>25950489
this is probably caused by the pewd/markiplier/mr beast "fix"
from what i remember when this "fix" was put in place, the trending/top live algo takes your recent videos/streams in to consideration. what gets included in the list are video/stream that are outside of your normal ccv/views. this was to prevent pewds from having his video in trending every day and eventually filling up the trending list with just his videos. that's why a new debut like salome will trend for a while until the algo has a line for her "normal"

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>>25950719
Nah Ike doesn't do that, i am asking more if he is doing a unarchived karaoke later?

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im impressed at how karaokes for holoEN are something like 150-200% of their usual audience while for NijiEN its like 300-500% at least off eyeballing it looks like that to me.

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>>25950667
very slight chance if he does a karaoke for his birthday

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Fulgur just raided Elira

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>>25951012
chinese/japanese audiences can understand it, like how EOPs love it when JPs do karaoke

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>>25950916
That's absolutely retarded and is basically penalizing having high baseline popularity

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>>25951122
Numbers?

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>>25951156
6.8k stream raiding 9k stream
9k stream shot to 12k

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>>25951122
ASMR to Karaoke lol

>>25951156
only 4k out 7k

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>>25951156

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>>25951122
>ASMR raiding into a Karaoke

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i can't literally see any memorable things Gen5 has done that went popular in the west
Gen0: Miko, Suisei
Gen1: Fubuki, Haachama
Gen2: Subaru
Gen3: korone
Gen4: Pekora, Marine
Gen5: ?
Gen6: still early
you can basically wipe out gen5 and no one will bat an eye

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NijiEN really likes to abuse any toys they have in hand.

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Council's TOP is only kronii, mumei and fauna, huh

Getting Aussies was a mistake

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>>25951336
Go schizopost elsewhere, we don't care.

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>>25951336
polden?

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>Gen3: korone
>Gen4: Pekora, Marine

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>>25951122
Actually farcical. The already joke EN tally is even more of a goddamn joke.

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>>25951364
One Aussie doesn't stream and the other has no real draw to her outside of her design. Her voice can be annoying and she doesn't really have a defining trait. Like, even though she sings she gets mogged by Mumei.

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>>25951400
He's not even trying at this point

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>>25951264
natural incline

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>>25951391
You mean the stuff no one watches that Bae's chad cast shits all over despite having no budget and no Cover-paid production team to help her?

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>>25951469
>she

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Damn, HoloEN is popping up right now. There are multiple streams with high viewer count without the use of raiding.
I guess the hype of HoloALT is inclining everyone.

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>>25951336
>not putting Matsuri in Gen1
Band aid nipples is iconic

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>>25951400
my point still stands. every gen has their own memorable moments except gen5

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Latest new, Amelia Watson is going on another break, this may be the one who finally put a nail in the coffin of her channel growth since it is much weaker these days.

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wait did elira just got another raid besides fungus? what was that jump to 13k

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>>25951837
EN 3 lol

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>>25949058
I don't ever remember Mori getting 10k without collabs and events, she has the worst personality for game streaming

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>>25951903
No, she got hit by a Z
I swear this doesn't happen to HoloEN nearly as often. What the fuck is going on

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>>25951712
This is why the hype cycle of multimedia is so powerful

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>>25951837
Not likely since she's hinted at having exciting stuff to show off once she gets back.

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>>25951903
The only other NijiEN that is/was streaming is Finana on Twitch. This is probably an EKG, wait for the numbers to update

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>>25951903
I don't think NijiEN has ever stopped using raid since they started. Is it company mandated at this point?

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>>25952006
Youtube bias

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The FUK?

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>>25952006
NijiEN have figured out the Raid into Z tech.

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>>25952009
With Hololive, we have both the PV and games ro get excited about. It's quite amazing despite having less money than Anykara, Cover manages to allocate funds to more substantial projects like HoloALT.

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>>25951903
she got raided by fulgur and for some reason fulgur viewers alwasy give this werid ass peaks
look at any of his previous streams. is full of Z.
guy pretty much has hisaverage peak median inflated by it this month.

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>>25951762
Just neck yourself, nijifag.

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>>25952057
No, there are many times they don't raid. NijiEN has a ton of streams each day, and only a few end up raiding.

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>>25952152
Absolutely illegal views.

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>>25951336
>Gen3: korone

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>>25952152
Raid into Z?

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>no full recovery from a Z

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>>25952152
why do they always get z'd what the fuck? did this happen to any of holoen before?

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>>25952177
They have the same amount of money roughly, they're both profiting by enormous amounts, and whatever difference there is between them, the most important one is the fact that Cover actually reinvests into itself constantly because the wealth of its talents is important to consider. Meanwhile, there's no telling how much of Anykara's money is being pocketed by the people in charge

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>>25952334
she started singing JP songs instead of EN songs again now so I guess some people genuinely bailed

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>>25951712
I've noticed that everyone seems to be inclining since around the start of June. Maybe students and such being out of school in NA are somewhat of a factor?

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>>25951400
Korone
>eekum bokum, kabocha
>soap
>water in the fire, turtle in the house
>evil god korone
Pekora
>ogey rrat
>minecraft pranks
Marine
>I'm horny
yes?

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>>25952334
the raid was in the middle of the natural fade during the Z

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>>25951122
> Be a fujo
> fall asleep to cute anime boy ASMR
> you start dreaming about him
> sudden loud girl singing

They really don't give a shit about their fans do they?

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Has NijiEN perfected the illegal funneling technique that Hololive has?

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>>25952361
Bae and Mori got once each iirc.

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>>25952361
>did this happen to any of holoen before?
Bae and Fauna. Fauna had an extremely tiny one and completely recovered and went over the Z and Bae recovered a little less than what she had. Hasn't happened since.

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>>25952334
JP needs to start utilizing the raid-z combo

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>>25952361
holoENs got a few but they were pretty small
i think they happen more when there's a bigger asian viewerbase for some reason

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Filian has entered the top 200.

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>>25952419
Korone also has "I'm, die, thank you forever".

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>>25952426
the fade line doesn't really match after the Z, it's much lower

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>>25952361
The Mori/Kiara karaoke got Z'd to around 15k at the very end iirc. I think Zeta also had a Z to reach a new peak right before ending stream as well not too long ago.

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ey yo peko beating salom tonight?

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Mumei 8k return zatsu

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>>25952192
holy fuck you were not kidding
this month streams are full of that shit for him.

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>>25952419
Thank you for pretending to be retarded, anon. I know it's a thankless, payless job.

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>>25952609
no

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NO EMOJI PLEASE
NO EMOJI PLEASE
NO EMOJI PLEASE

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Has anyone thought about the Z being proof of bad viewer retention and not a bug?
The audience of NijiEN is one of the most fragmented so they don't care for other members.

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>>25952709
Is hard to tell. it just seem more coomon with them.

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>>25952709
lets see if these redirects create fan unity within nijisanji

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Numbers

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>>25952684
why? its Usada Pekora
the face of JP Vtubing scene

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>>25952628
i might have mistaken the gen orders because why tf could anyone memorize it especially if you're just mainly watching EN
the point still fucking stands that Gen5 are irrelevant

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Why do we call it a Z when it's actually an N

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As I said, thankless and payless.

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>>25952930
It never goes up a second time so a N is pretty misleading.

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Is Pekora really going to overlap Chloes debut with her return stream? Surely not?

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Fauna said her sub count out loud, 551680
Straight up said she doesn't give a shit about numbers and doesn't usually look at sub numbers because she doesn't care and just cares more about her community lmao

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>>25952978
But Zs don't make sense either because time can't move backwards

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>>25952393
>wealth of its talents
>bans them from playing Rust when its the hottest thing in the JP streamer scene
they don't have their talents best interests in mind, they just want to control them

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>>25952799
doubtful

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>>25952334
Does the z have anything to do with chinese viewers? It happens a lot of the niji boys but this is the first time I have seen it for any of the NijiEN girls, just after getting raided by Fulgur.
I know it has happened rarely for Holos too, but maybe some of them has many chinese VPN viewers still?

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>>25952987
I know you are baiting, but the debut it's an hour before. It's a perfect funnel from main channel into 3D debut into Pekora

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>>25952987
she's catching the funnel instead at 21:00

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>>25953030
Good, content creators should let us be autistic about the numbers and just do what they like.

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>>25952987
Pekora will get the fattest funnel ever. Chloe starts at 8pm JST and Pekora on 9pm

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>>25953030
I'm sure all holos with a low sub count try to cope like that

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>>25952987
Pekora is catching the funnel shes el number rabbit for a reason

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>>25953030
They all say this.

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>>25953030
anon everyone says that
Like even the biggest numberfags says things like that

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>>25953075
I think it has something to do with chinks, yea.

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I'm thinking 135k for Chloe 3D and 70k for the Pekroa return

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>>25952609
Its not today though..

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>>25953030
so pretty much what every top streamer says?

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>>25953077
>>25953087
>>25953118
Oh ok, for some reason I thought Chloe was on at 9pm as well

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How come people here say their opinions like they're facts?

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>>25953334
retard

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>>25953334
>Implying it only happens here