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2649804 No.2649804 [Reply] [Original]

Would you watch her if she wasn't a Shark Loli

>I genuinely find her personality and sense of humor well worth a watch and she might be one of the most naturally entertaining people on the plateform and this is coming from somebody who isn't into any traditional streamers at all

>> No.2649837

She had a much cuter voice before she became a shark.

>> No.2649854

Probably. She is the only chuuba with an UUUUUOOOOOOOOH model that I watch.

>> No.2649856

>>2649804
SHE NEEDS TO DO UPLOADS (not just live streams) of rap or sinning videos. Then she would be much better. Everything is just game playing lately.

>> No.2649883

>>2649804
I'd watch if she played games I like.

>> No.2649890

>>2649837
>She had a much cuter voice before she became a shark
She actually uploaded funny content at the time, now everything is gaming.

>> No.2652161

i literally don't care how she look her voice is lovely

>> No.2652321

>>2649890
Yeah
Once every one blue moon.
Gura is Gura. More Gura is better than no Gura. I dont care about the contents.

>> No.2652456

>>2649837
Her fake baby voice was terrible and didn’t match the character at all.

>> No.2652489

I don't watch her now she's boring.

>> No.2652531

>>2652456
>fake
That's just her regular voice when she speaks quietly. Go listen to her first ASMR stream.

>> No.2652567

People sperg out whenever she's drawn with big tits, so anyone saying yes is lying through their teeth.

>> No.2652604

The initial appeal of the designs for me:

Mori>Ina>Gura>Ame>Kiara

Who I actually watch the most of:

Ina>Kiara>Gura>Ame>Mori

>> No.2652605

>>2652489
You're missing a comma

>> No.2652642

>>2649804
She's not my oshi and I watch both Ina and Ame more than her, but Gura is fun and sincere, plus probably has the best member only content for the price point if you're looking for that.

>> No.2652655

>>2652605
I don't watch her now because she's boring.

>> No.2652769

>>2652489
>I don't watch her now she's boring
I think she just needs to pull back a bit on the nonstop gaming streams. With Calli, her videos have a lot of variety to them, which is what Gura needs.

>> No.2652921

>>2652769
She said she wanted to do pre-recorded content or whatever but she's evidently working on other stuff that Cover is dragging their feet to release. I'm kind of just over her now though, I don't like her personality.

>> No.2652994

>>2649890
I continue to hope that as time goes on she'll 'settle' a bit more and start getting the itch to just dump some stupid shit she thinks is funny on her channel, consequences be damned. She's not operating on all cylinders right now, she has way more potential that's being wasted. She is capable of directly upstaging Nyanners and others like her on their own turf, and I want to see it happen. I don't know if it's management pressuring her to keep it sterile or if she herself is lacking the confidence to just go for it, but I remain hopeful time will grind away at the resistance. The other alternative is she burns herself out on game streams (not even her forte) and graduates, which would probably destroy her self-image and result in an hero.

>> No.2653100

>>2652994
She thinks that letting loose and being silly is too ""cringe"" now. Gura is going all in on the idol image garbage.

>> No.2653214

is this the gura anti thread?? based i hate gora too

>> No.2653298

>>2649804
no, the design is important
t. chumbud

>> No.2653943

>>2653100
Thinking about it a bit more, isn't EN really low on short-form content? Mori has her wigger rap, but that's not quite the same as the short shitpost stuff the JP girls regularly put out. The only one even trying to match that in some way is Kiara.

I suspect there's something very wrong with the way they're being managed. The rigid scheduling is great for boosting stream viewership, but it might be going too far. They would do better cutting the raw number of streams across the board and focusing that attention instead of throwing together some short-form... literally anything. I cannot even keep up with everything being pumped out as-is, they're oversaturated.

>> No.2654253

>>2653943
Kiara said they're being handled with children's gloves in a member's stream recently.

>> No.2654309

>>2649856
She deserves an original release but rap is Mori's turf, something like a Fubuki-style pop song could be much more successful with Gura.

>> No.2654445

>>2654309
>Mori's turf
kek, mori doesn't own a genre. gura could do whatever she wants.

>> No.2654498

>>2654253
I don't like having to admit it, but despite how many problems I have with Kiara she's the only one even trying to break the cage they've been placed in. That alone makes her a positive influence on EN, she might be the saving grace that rescues her gen from death by monotony.

>> No.2654844

>>2654498
Agreed.

>> No.2654989

>>2649804
Yeah. She used to be my least favorite EN, but now she might be my favorite. She seems a lot warmer and more genuine now than she did around debut.

>> No.2655033

>>2652456
>>2652531
She couldn't sing with her zawa voice, which is pretty telling on how straining it was. The zawa was overly cute which is Herfags can't let it go.

>> No.2655045

>>2649804
I couldn't care less about lolis, so yes.

>>2649837
I've said this before but I found her voice to be really fucking irritating in her previous life even though it's virtually the same now. Can't really explain it, but I'd rather listen to her now.

>> No.2655127

>>2654498
>>2654844
>>2653943
>death from monotony
Stopped with the german fairy tale and learning stream, only plays jrpgs to less viewers than Ame's watchalong. What did the retard who doesn't watch EN mean?

>> No.2655163

>>2655045
I mean if she wasn't a vtuber at all not a different model

>> No.2655262

>>2655033
I don't care about what voice she uses but that's still her real voice dude. The reason why the singing was different was because she used to fuck around during karaoke most often instead of trying to make them into concerts. Probably because she was too nervous to really try.

>> No.2655321

>>2655163
Still yes. The question now would be if I could even know about her otherwise but that's a different issue.

>> No.2655326

>>2655127
You're a kiara anti, I know.

>> No.2655494
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>>2655127
Well that's a fucking dumb take. Her mix is pretty good, no idea how you can claim it's only JRPGs. I don't watch her because I find her obnoxious, but the lineup is varied and technically solid.

>> No.2655517

>>2654309
>rap is Mori's turf
If you heard Gura rap, you would be very, very, surprised. I would say it’s very much a part of Gura, not just the singing. Also no one owns an entire music genre, so not sure your point is there.

>> No.2655598

>>2649804
i've seen her roommate. It really doesn't matter she is a funny and nice girl.

>> No.2655702

>>2649804
I'd watch her if she had no cam or model at all. She's entertaining and cute by default. The model is just icing on the cake.

>> No.2655706

>>2652994
>I continue to hope that as time goes on she'll 'settle' a bit more and start getting the itch to just dump some stupid shit she thinks is funny on her channel, consequences be damned. She's not operating on all cylinders right now, she has way more potential that's being wasted. She is capable of directly upstaging Nyanners and others like her on their own turf, and I want to see it happen. I don't know if it's management pressuring her to keep it sterile or if she herself is lacking the confidence to just go for it, but I remain hopeful time will grind away at the resistance.
Perfect post. I agree 100% that Gura has a lot more to offer us, but almost seems like she is constantly worried about what is or isn’t deemed appropriate for EN. Imagine Gura not holding back and uploading some funny—yes maybe even edgy—content. MAN... would be awesome.

>> No.2655846

>>2655045
Maybe you didn't like the way she used her voice contentwise

>> No.2656020

>>2655517
uwu daddy

>> No.2656816

>>2649856
I would love to hear her rap! I bet she sounds really cute rapping! She should do a cover of that belle delphine song that came out some months back.

>> No.2656931

>>2656816
just listen to her past life, she rapped often. And she doesn't really hide her past life like the other girls, she makes sly insider jokes about it all the time.

>> No.2657047

>>2655846
Maybe. I just think her voice then sounded really ... not genuine.

>> No.2657088

>>2655127
>checks gura's DMC vid, 20K live viewers, 700k views in just 3 days.
>checks gura's MH vids, 18-22k live viewers in all 3 videos 500k-1m views each

well your post doesn't check out at all. does Amelia even have a 1m view video, ever? in fact Amelia doesn't have a single video in the past 2 weeks with as many viewers as gura's worst video (supermetroid).

furthermore she just did a fucking 4 hour long karaoke for her members last night. what do you mean stale content? she was on fire last night.

>> No.2657122

>>2657088
I think the best part is you can see a ton of western vtubers start playing the exact same games she does no matter how old they are, and you wonder why all the holo girls play the same thing as each other all at once.

>> No.2657125

>>2657088
edit, oh you were talking about kiara. yep your post makes sense now.

now i'll continue to get too drunk to read these forums.

>> No.2657170

oh boy another canceled stream! How does she get away with it every week?

>> No.2657172

>>2655706
Anon, she starts firing on more cylinders in her membership streams. Why do you think there are so many. She literally does singing/other stuff regularly in them.
Despite that, she STILL has more cylinders to fire on, this is a person who can shit out 1mil+ sub youtube channels.

>> No.2657365

>>2657122
They need to be, to avoid another holocaust

>> No.2657739

>>2657172
I’m saying that putting out a funny rap upload (not live stream) on a non-membership stream, possibly hitting 10 million views (not impossible) would draw a lot of new subscribers.

>> No.2657773

>>2649804
>Would you watch her if she wasn't a Shark Loli
I did.

>> No.2658087

>>2657773
/thread

>> No.2658270

>>2652605
I dont watch her, now she's boring
I dont watch her now, she's boring

>> No.2658291

>>2649804
Yes. The cute design is just a bonus

>> No.2658444

so....why should I watch her?

>> No.2658775
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>>2656931
Excuse me what the actual fuck anon where is that coming from?

>> No.2658806

>>2658775
which part?

>> No.2659024

>>2657773
Based.

>Good point but I mean 0 model

>> No.2659051

>>2658806
The personal life stuff no way she said that

>Link or Stream

>> No.2659107

>>2659051
i don't know what you are talking about? What personal life stuff? I'm talking about her past vtuber life if that is what you are asking about.

>> No.2659413

>>2657122
>you can see a ton of western vtubers start playing the exact same games she does no matter how old they are
I actually don't see this happening.

>> No.2659638

>>2658775
That anon is right though. Honestly, I think she is better at rap than Calli. No joke.

>> No.2659686

>>2659638
She obviously is to anybody who has listened to more than one rap song. Nobody will ever admit it though.

>> No.2659969

>>2659686
>Nobody will ever admit it though
That’s because not everyone knows that Gura can even rap. Give her history, her highest ever video views, was a rap. It’s pretty damn obvious that rap is her thing, because it’s what she did best on.

>> No.2660041

https://vocaroo.com/19BDiA8TX5zO

>> No.2661490
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2661490

oh dear

>> No.2661709

>>2652605
I don't, watch her now she's boring.

>> No.2665609
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HERfags actually beleeb she's a better rapper than a literal professional

>> No.2667036

>>2649890
>>2652994
Hope you realize that the reason she jumped away from being a shitposter is probably she didn't enjoy it that much? What you are looking for while likely never return as the person in question likely doesn't want to do it anymore.

>> No.2668400

I'd like to think I'd watch her even if she wasn't the instant hit she was. That first karaoke was a massive pull and I'd always be hooked by the singing.

Also she can play any cute character well, what does it matter if it wasn't a smol shark. She can pull off a cute, dumb, scatterbrained detective if she had to.

>> No.2668471

>>2657739
At this point Gura can put out any cover of any song she likes and it would reach 10 mil eventually.

If she actually went and made that Wellerman cover it would do well.

>> No.2668632

>>2665609
this
she will never get better either because goslings think they need to protect their fragile angel and will drown out any and all constructive criticism.

>> No.2668734
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2668734

>>2649804
>Would you watch her if she wasn't a Shark Loli
I'm sure half watch her not just because she's a Shark loli, otherwise this Loli cat would be more popular here.

>> No.2669212

>>2667036
>because Gura said she is happy being in Hololive (as they all should be), I can use that as an excuse to pretend she hates her roots.
It’s pretty obvious to me that not having to worry about whatever is politically correct, is a much more comfortable life. Walking on eggshells today over offending anyone is not pleasant at all. I also don’t agree with pretending you have the moral high ground simply because you’re the quickest to be offended. It’s funny how people pretend she hated herself, simply because they would hate her otherwise. So they deny reality.

>> No.2669353

>>2668734
>otherwise this Loli cat would be more popular here.
If she was in Hololive, she likely would be. But yeah, it’s not just a loli thing at all. Gura is interesting in other ways.

>> No.2669841

>>2669212
I find it pretty rude when people talk shit about her old stuff. Not liking it is one thing but I've read plenty posts that are downright disrespectful anti tier shit. How you could talk so poorly about someone then turn around and claim you love them now because they were "saved" by Yagoo is beyond me. Most of the time it's from people who weren't even aware of her existence prior to Hololive too so there's really no reason for them to care so much.

>> No.2670693

>>2669212
Gura literally lashed out at her viewers when they said she was drunk on the New Years stream, and many times hinted that she was depressed before Hololive. You can connect the dots from there instead of being a contrarian to the simple explanation without substantiated proof, newfagchama.

>It’s funny how people pretend she hated herself, simply because they would hate her otherwise.
A great majority of chumbuds absolutely love HER though. They invariably get all excited when Gura drops the faintest reference on stream. Gura may not be a fan of who she used to be, but you'll find that any fan of Gura's who isn't a schizo has a soft spot for the gremlin.

>> No.2670759

>>2669212
>>because Gura said she is happy being in Hololive (as they all should be), I can use that as an excuse to pretend she hates her roots
No, its more like it actually looks like she's having more fun in hololive than when she was making meme videos and doing streams back then. An actual serious discussion would be no one here even knows if she actually liked doing it in the first place since its common for people to do those sort of videos purely because it gains attention. From my point of view and observations, it doesn't really seem like she had a strong attachment or care for the previous content she made. Quite possibly didn't like doing it that much either.

I don't see her old content coming back because to me it doesn't look like she is that strongly interested in or heavily influenced by it. Everyone looks at gura and just thinks senzawa that's restraining herself from being a hyper idiot shitposter! The ones being disrespectful are those who are only capable of seeing senzawa and nothing else. But, from my point of view as a chronic shitposter, its the opposite. The old "personality" was just a front she put on and wasn't her actual self. She is an idiot though.

>> No.2670820

>>2670693
I don't care whether it's true or false.
I just LOVE it when she's shown or said to be sad and depressed, I don't feel alone this way.

>> No.2670825

>>2670693
People keep citing that drunk shit but I think that's just a sensitive topic for her in general. Added to the fact that she was actually tipsy her emotions got the best of her. I actually couldn't watch the rest of the stream after that happened, I felt bad. She apologized for it the next day because she felt like she got carried away in her response. Claimed it was just a joke but I'm pretty sure it was serious. I don't think there is any "she hates herself from before versus now," because growth is not like flipping a switch. She may have been depressed then but she still talks about being depressed now.

What I'm saying is I don't think she hates what she did before. She's just growing as she always would have regardless and of course she's happier now, she has new friends and a lot of money. That doesn't mean everything just changed. She's still working on it.

>> No.2670896

As you go through life you'll see,
There is so much that we don't understand,
And the only thing we know,
Is thing don't always go
The way we planned.

>> No.2670922

>>2670759
If you actually watched her she has the same personality now as before, you fuck. The shit she did back then was not to become famous she did it for fun and it happened to blow up. Her hobby began to stress her out when she got a lot of eyes on her. She was going through the same shit in the beginning of Hololive to the point where she could hardly eat but she's been working through it. I don't know why everyone keeps trying to create this narrative that she hated making meme videos other than the fact that they're just projecting.
Did she begin to stray away from the original intent which was just having fun? Yes, and that's probably why she left.

>> No.2671391

>>2670820
That’s so messed up dude. She’s trying to have a positive impact on your life.

>> No.2671683

>>2649804
No. Her whole personality is perfect for being a moe loli.
She got me into vtubers because she is a loli, if she wasn't then I would never have been interested in vtubers at all. Gura has been my oshi since the debut.

>> No.2671736

>>2649804
Like all the vtubers I watch, I watch them because I find them entertaining. The shark loli portion is just a bonus.

>> No.2672046

>>2649804
Gura is cute and all but the loli persona is incredibly important. It would feel weird if she has that voice and she wasn't loli. I mostly don't care about the shark part, she can be whatever monster girl suits her. Gura has good sense of humour but she's incredibly limited with what she can joke about due to company or personal restrictions she's imposed herself with. I wanna see more dark humour from the shark, desu.

>> No.2672131

>>2649804
sure, I'd have given everyone who was in EN a shot when they debuted. I couldn't watch Kiara too much in the end, and Calli generally filters me through timing or game choice, but Gura's voice would have caught me no matter the hololive avatar look.

>> No.2672357

>>2670922
Would that be the reason she got depressed? I distinctly remember her mentioning something about not being in a good place in the past.

Probably the initial viewer boom helped innoculate her against her current amount of viewers and feel more comfy. Still far more than SHE had live streaming.

>> No.2672452

>>2668734
Nyanners has an extremely negative reputation here among those who were here when she jammed the knife in, she can go fuck herself.

>> No.2673003

>>2672452
?

>> No.2676000

>>2669353
>If she was in Hololive, she likely would be.
I don't think the people who hate her would change their mind just because she's in Hololive

>> No.2676990

>>2649804
>Would you watch her if she wasn't a Shark Loli

I don't watch her even if she's a shark loli. Don't know why, but her voice irritates me after listening to it for more than 20 minutes.

>> No.2681791

>>2676990
You must REALLY hate KIDS huh?

>> No.2681815

>>2681791
Hate is too strong of a word. More like i dislike them.

>> No.2682492

>>2681815
Well... Better learn to LOVE them cause your gonna have kids Later in your life... Unless your living like a monk

>> No.2682776

>>2649890
the fuck did you expect she to do? Origami?

>> No.2684429

>>2649804
It’s the voice that hook me. I actually didn’t look at the screen most of the time when Gura stream. So of course I will.

>> No.2684519

>>2649837
>Kuina Natsukawa form Hinako Note
She already was a shark. Just a less overt one.

>> No.2684887

>>2682492
I had vasectomy a few years ago anon, i've been around kids enough to know i don't want any.

>> No.2685236

>>2649804
u are attracted to her way for streaming, because she is autistic, and you find comfort in seeing another fellow autist succeed.

>> No.2685663

>>2685236
Autist look out for each other

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>>2649804
I was already HER fan and that was before she even had an avatar, the Halloween cover stole my kokoro, then when she debuted as Gura she stole the rest of my insides, I probably love her more than I love my family. There isn't anything in particular that I love about her, I simply love her whole. The only possible scenario where I can see myself without Gura in my life is if I died of sudden death or if she had a beef but in the latter case I'd probably just off myself so it all goes back to the former possibility: only if I died.

>inb4 "Anon, I..."
I watched the truck sim stream collab, she just tried to say a joke, it was unfunny and people misunderstood her.

>collab with guy driving truck in a game
>being in the passenger seat of a truck driver
Get it? truck drivers go with whores, when they get hired whores sit in the passenger seat of truck because there's only two seats in a truck, that was the joke.

>> No.2686325 [DELETED] 

>>2686027
he was her bf, not anymore, and he lives in the UK. There's nothing wrong with that

>> No.2686348

>>2686325
>source: my rrat

>> No.2686499

>>2686348
either way doesn't matters, I am her bf now along with 13k-15k shrimps

>> No.2686715

>>2686027
actually , it's much more simple than that
Dead By Daylight - S**z*w* 46:58

absolute nothingburger

>> No.2686758

>>2649804
>Would you watch her if she wasn't a Shark Loli
I stopped watching her like month 2 or 3 and its not because she's a shark loli but she wouldn't gat as much fanart and that would be a shame.

>> No.2687735

>>2672357
It could have contributed but she obviously has some kind of actual clinical depression. There is no single thing that depresses her. She's still depressed now.

>> No.2687796

>>2649804
Yes. I watched her for years before she became a shark.

>> No.2688022

>>2672452
Speak for yourself. Plenty of us were here back then and still like her just fine. She's bad with words and some anons did terrible things to her, so of course she said things about some of the people here. Occasionally, on streams, she still talks fondly of the good times she had here.

>> No.2689346

>>2668734
>The pee pee poo poo girl who constantly makes shitty sex related "jokes".
She and the rest their company are the amy schumer of V-tubers.

>> No.2690274

>>2654253
>children's gloves
"kid gloves" doesn't mean "children's gloves". it means gloves made from juvenile goat (i.e. kid) skin.

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>>2686499
ogey

>> No.2691171

>>2690328
who's that guy fucking my oshi's roommate?

>> No.2692327

>>2691171
The transatlantic timeloop cock

>> No.2693879

>>2649804
She's just a more chill v-tuber. I enjoy watching her for that reason. If you are watching her for super high energy wacky streams, you've come to the wrong place. There are plenty of other v-tubers who fill that role.

>> No.2694339

>>2693879
Gura is a natural. She paces herself in streams impeccably well and never leans too heavily in one direction or the other.

>> No.2695587

>>2661709
I, don't, watch, he'r, now, she's boring.

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