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I just noticed the Moschops
and that shark needs an exorcism

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>> No.26882607

>>26882277
That's a clean RX-78 Gundam right there.

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>> No.26882637

>>26882374
Mystic shield Oji-san doko?!

>> No.26882794

flare is following souchou on twitter btw

>> No.26882889

Anons, great effort awaits us, we need to think about how should we tell Kson about tweaking her 3d model environment, it's important, cause overall tracking is very good, model is not bad either but shaders, aliasing and lighting is all over the place.

>> No.26882894

>>26882794
Kinda meh now...seeing how all those follows from the start of the year led to fuck all.

>> No.26882910

>>26882794
That's nice of her. How many is that now? Three or four? Flare was one of those holomem who I in wouldn't watch often, but when I did, I would enjoy her and think "Why don't I watch her more often?"

>> No.26882925

>>26882794
Cool, She will unfollow her the moment manager see it.

>> No.26882989

Her chimpira dancers are all ikemen
https://twitter.com/korock_taichi
https://twitter.com/J_KoRocK
https://twitter.com/itton_korock

>> No.26883084

>>26882910
Watame, Noel, Flare, Zeta, and I'm pretty sure Rushia was before she died.

>> No.26883138

>>26882889
Read the mood and find the right moment.

I'm still analyzing a bit, but it looks like the first two songs were rendered differently somehow. The whole Post processing (bloom, AA, etc) looks different.

>> No.26883197

>>26882989
I don't know why, but i don't care if she collabs with males, talk to them, dance with them, i don't give a shit really, cause i know she doesn't really give a shit about them either.

>> No.26883296

>>26882910
Haachama, Rushia, Noel, Watame, Zeta and Flare.

>> No.26883313

>I fucking slept through it
feels bad man. Also 30k likes and 47k view, how many people watched it live? That sort of view/like ratio indicates it got a fuck ton of views actually and YT can't process it.

>> No.26883391

>>26883313
>>I fucking slept through it
retard
I think it was around 35k viewers peak

>> No.26883408

>>26883138
Only the intro looks different, that shit has everything, shadows, reflections, motion blur.

>> No.26883435

>>26883313
I've not seen it broke 35k CCV. It's stable 33-34 all time.

>> No.26883469

>>26882989
where did you find this?

>> No.26883588

>>26883313
watched it live, it peaked around 37k at one point and then dropped to about 33-34 for the remainder

>> No.26883623

>>26882889
Just convince her we really REALLY like the convenience store stage…

>> No.26883636

>>26883469
it's on her description box

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That bitch said she had an announcement, and then presented like 6 announcements. I love that bitch. I wonder who her mystery collab on the 29th is with.

>> No.26883804

>>26883736
I think someone said that Rika showed up in chat around that time, maybe her

>> No.26883931

>>26883804
The other thread with the rude people said Haachama was typed something in the chat but it was moving too fast...guessing no one else caught it?

>> No.26884003

>>26882889
>how should we tell Kson
Just leave it to the Japs...
https://twitter.com/AliceQuartet/status/1541072846398824449

>> No.26884069

>>26884003
he could have been a bit more subtle

>> No.26884088

>>26883084
don't forget the world's strongest idol

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Why's it the model so low quality...

>> No.26884201 [DELETED] 

>>26884168
it's the lighting
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWLkN-AaMAE5Qq-?format=jpg&name=large

>> No.26884206

watame collab on the 29?
ドンドンドドドん bros!!

>> No.26884228

>>26884003
That’s just an anti

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>>26884168
it's the lighting

>> No.26884457

>>26884260
Awful lighting and what felt like an insane lack of anti-aliasing made the entire thing feel so bad.

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>>26884260
Yeah, the lighting at certain angles make it look weird, but other times it looks great llike here.I think she should have whatever filter/effect Tomari has on her model where the surrounding lighting doesn't effect it.

>> No.26884555

Main issue was that it was lagging and the mouth tracking wasn't that good.

>> No.26884565

>>26884168
Because those smoothed shadows look bad on an anime character, she need something like this>>26884260 with hard edges.

>> No.26884870

Man I really like her dancing. All those lessons really paid off.

>> No.26885653

Just taking a look at twitter for all the related content and someone noticed 2 cups on her Super3D teaser.

https://twitter.com/redeyesdorgon/status/1541054594909732865

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Predictions?
I say it's a bikini and a white shirt.
Also what's that thing behind her? It looks like a bad photoshop crop.

>> No.26885726

>>26885670
ARK style outfit

>> No.26885811

>>26885670
One thing for sure, her tits is bigger

>> No.26885898

>>26885670
Despite the background teasing the theme to be summer, it felt like it'll be quite clothed.

Stick at the back looks like a long gun. Barrel with something like a scope near her arm.

Neck has collars. Side of her left arm have those fabric like layers.

...could be something like MUSashi FGO A2 art if it's really a summer swimsuit.

...i don't know what i am talking about.

>> No.26885926

>>26883313
Can't be helped. It was at 5AM for me and I was up til midnight doing other things. Sorry souchou, but I'll just watch the vod.

>> No.26885983

>>26885670
Bikini with removable button down shirt that she will be afraid to take off on Yotube, a visor or hat, sunglasses
>Also what's that thing behind her?
I'm gonna guess it's some sort of weapon. Her default outfit has the sword so maybe she has something else for her summer one.

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>>26885983
>some sort of weapon

>> No.26886104

>>26882374
>There are 2 cups
THEY ARE?!?!?!?

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The model looks good when it isn't on the stage

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>>26885670
Bikini with see-through white shirt and a water gun/squirt gun.

>> No.26886259

>>26886138
The textures look really blurry, I wonder why.

>> No.26886564

>>26886259
I think the quality setting might be reduced, overall. Would also explain the anti aliasing.

If it's UE4 the Temporal AA would be pretty good at making almost anything smooth, because it works in the post processing pipeline.
Might be one of the sacrifices she had to make to get it to run at home.

I have my suspicions how the bigger companies do it, based on some odd things that happen in their cases (e.g. physics of the model having smooth frame rate, while the model's tracking having issues, etc). But I feel like it would be overkill, because it involves multiple PCs doing different things.

>> No.26886736

>>26886564
Don't think this stream was from her house.

>> No.26886933

>>26886564
I wonder is she used her own PC and 3D equipment for this. That would mean she either bought 2 extra mocap suits or borrowed them.

>> No.26887080

What were the announcements? The catalog isn't being spammed so I guess it wasn't the Big One.

>> No.26887168

>>26887080
Cover song, Comiket, New outfit, pop-up store, her home 3D setup

>> No.26887285

Model itself was good, but HOLY HELL she needs better antialiasing

>> No.26887291

>>26886736
I'm a bit torn, but I think the most likely scenario is that she is using the same system that the dev (https://twitter.com/aizen76/status/1541053221698908162)) has developed, but in a studio.
It is possible to do that in your house, though, if you have the space for it and you don't annoy your neighbors with it. I think some of that will be answered if she uses her home setup.

>> No.26887443

>>26887168
what is a pop up store? what does it sell? pop ups? I use ublock

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>>26887080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBHauh-Vy24
Summer Lesson with kson

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>>26885670
Wet suit kson, complete with spear gun. why? Who knows why she does half the things she does, other than its for fun.

>> No.26889348

>>26887488
She looks like something from Code Lyoko

>> No.26889403

>>26887291
We'll have to wait for her after-stream zatsudan to be sure, but I don't think it's the apartment due to space. The two large rooms of her house that she showed on camera (which might be the same one from different angles) don't look as big as the space they were moving around in on today's stream. It's maybe possible it could be done there, but I think if she's at the point where she's hiring professional choreographers and dancers she would just rent a studio to perform in rather than skimp on that and cram at least 5 dudes into a small Japanese apartment.

>> No.26889578

>>26889403
5 guys in a small apartment?
Souchou after-stream gangbang........

>> No.26889758

>>26882989
Kudos to them they did a good job

>> No.26889902

>>26889403
You think she'd still be allowed to use Cover's studio if she asked? Or would she rent a different one just as a matter of principle?

>> No.26890057

>>26884260
And it looked like her equipment or rig for the stream was just a potato

>> No.26890168

Kinda worried that Super3D model is gonna be some unholy CodeMiko level of uncanny.

Also I wonder if that was also one of her "ideas" that got shot down back in the past life.

>> No.26890219

>>26883736
It's gonna be Mikeneko who else

>> No.26890298

>>26889902
I imagine she would rather use another studio than deal with Cover management again.

>> No.26890992

>>26890298
Who knows. But I'd think that Tokyo has a bunch of Mocap Studios that game devs or people in film can rent.

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>>26883804
>>26883931
Here you two go, Rika posted right after the collab song announcement.

>> No.26891568

>>26885670
>Predictions?
I see cat ears. Probably a rock star outfit?

>> No.26891664

>>26885670
it's clearly a kimono outfit with a cork gun

>> No.26891766

>>26891664
I was thinking of this too, but what's that large thing on her torso?

>> No.26891939

>>26891766
a good she won from the carnival games

>> No.26891986

>>26891939
>a good
a what?

>> No.26892109

>>26891664
>it's clearly a kimono
And where's the obi?

>> No.26892157

i lub u kson

>> No.26892209

>>26891986
goods. merch. a toy.

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Did Kson fucked up her CCV by allowing third party watch alongs?

>> No.26894783

>>26894339
no

>> No.26894834

>>26891568

I think it looks like a yukata, maybe the short hem type. She's still got a sword.

Yaman gave Coco a really great yukata.

>> No.26895243

I Loved it but why her face was white with the hand camera that yaman was holding?

>> No.26895281

>>26895243
Shader and lighting issues.

>> No.26895379

>>26895281
I see, is it normal for 3D amateurs lives?

>> No.26895451

>>26895379
Nah, the studio or whoever handled the 3D export fucked it up, because I fucking doubt Kson knows how to deal with issues likes this.

>> No.26895504

>>26895451
>studio
I thought it was all her

>> No.26895537

>>26895504
No.

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>> No.26895862

>>26895785
>>26895785 (me)
shit encoding fucked up

>>26895451
who knows. The shader is specific to the engine/program you are using, so it's not always easy to transfer between stuff.

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>>26895785
this should be better

>> No.26897742

overall im blown away i cant wait to see more kino using her new model

>> No.26898267

>>26895862
>who knows. The shader is specific to the engine/program you are using, so it's not always easy to transfer between stuff.
I wish people understood this about computer graphics. Especially the "who knows?" part. Aside from some fundamentals of the math, it's hard to say exactly what the issue is unless you know their system.
I haven't written any shaders since OpenGL 3.2 (maybe 3.3? I am an ojisan), and on top of that GPU-based and engine-based features are crazy compared to the 00's. So I know not to speculate too much when I see something that looks off.

I can still see something is odd, and say so, and maybe say "It might be the choice of lighting clashing with details of the shaders!" but that's like eating a streak that tastes strange and saying "It's because of how it was cooked!"

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Huh. The "Traveling with Coco!" guy produced a book of his adventures:
https://wakkaya.booth.pm/items/3956004
Neat. Gives me some ideas of my own.

>> No.26901086

>>26894339
she'd be happier to give the others her ccv anyways if that was the case

>> No.26901403

https://youtu.be/lF7TP5v0lrI?t=2304

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>>26898267
Kinda agree, that most have no idea about what they are talking about. But for anyone who's tried to do anime style, they'll kinda know.

Here's what I assume went wrong (at least in Unreal Engine, but it would be similar in Unity).
Top is kson's Shader/Material, but I was too lazy to do the faux highlights.
Middle is what most other's use (probably a bit too simplified).
Bottom is a Cell Shading Material I made, just to show where you could take it. My Experiment how well this would work in UE5.

With all that. I think this stuff is overall pretty great. It just needs a bunch of little tweaks, and maybe some more visual direction. This is all stuff that comes with experience, which you only gain by trying and doing things.

>> No.26901618

>>26901086
>>26894339
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeJDAabJUu2tYcjZnuBTk9wQKjZvNLZ8g
Looking at a sampling of views on other streams, and even assuming a high level of audience overlap with the original stream, e.g. 50%, I have to imagine she got another 30-40k viewers out of this. No clue about concurrent, but total viewers is probably 10% higher than the total on the stream archive.

>> No.26902468

>>26894339
I doub>>26894339
t it, if anything it might've created more hype.

>> No.26902649

It ultimately doesn't really matter since it was fun and gives her a good opportunity to make some new friends.

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if there's 3 dancers credited in the description, does that mean one of those dudes was souchou during the songs? or one of them is just choreographer

>> No.26903186

>>26902945
Could literally be anything. Could be one dancer was used for one song, and two for another, or in a shifting combination. Could also be that one was the choreographer, or could be that one was Souchou during one song, or all of them. Or it could be that they all helped choreograph to some extent!
You could ask her in a supa in a week or so during honhe.

>> No.26903446

Oh hey. Kson is getting 3D. Good for her! I'll give it a view and a like.
>>26878592
Disliked, unfavorited, not recommending it to others. Thank god she graduated.

>> No.26903535

>>26902945
KoRock is a 3 person group, most likely they all participate in choreography to some extent.

>> No.26903753

>>26901468
I mean for the first time she had to do this it was a a nice stream, no every indie can pull out this kind of 3D debut by herself, i'm pretty sure quality will increase in upcoming 3d streams

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>>26903446
>disliking the best girl in vtubing
gay

>> No.26903791

When you guys think she will debut her home 3D? next week maybe?

>> No.26903924

>>26903791
She implied on her last karaoke stream that the next one could be 3D, so probably pretty soon.

>> No.26904034

>>26903784
Don't reply to retards, especially those that link posts from other threads.

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I don't want to be greedy but I need another stream

>> No.26904796

>>26904034
Kill yourself tranny

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ill reply to whoever i want

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>> No.26905063

heh
https://twitter.com/Dondon714532/status/1541080616888049664

>> No.26905208

>>26905063
I'd play that as a bullet hell fangame.

>> No.26905652

please post some nice mirror streams

>> No.26905676

>>26905652
Himono sensei

>> No.26905961

>>26905652
As >>26905676 said, Himono was nice and is posted earlier: >>26901403.
Also Yura + Leto for that Yaman family wholesomeness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOlZwsCxjJU

>> No.26906142

>>26905652
https://youtu.be/BFXBvq8RRKk
https://youtu.be/aCYRYE8xZPA

>> No.26906272

Ribbon's was pretty cute too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBId1LHUM_4

>> No.26907609

>>26905652
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q0b6mmNOhM
Kson cosplay and plushie included.

>> No.26908379

>>26907609
>Has a vtuber for 3 years.
>Kson mirror is in her top 10 viewed streams.
>It's the most-viewed stream she has had in over a year.
I can feel... I can feel the need to save over taking me... it is a good pain.

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>>26908379
計画通り

>> No.26909043

wtf is super3d going to be?

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Model lighting issues aside, the dancing was really good. Feels like a huge step up over Coco's debut with the two clone backup dancers 2 years ago.

>> No.26909583 [DELETED] 

I have a used cerebras cs-1
can it be niggerrigged to render her 3D?
if so how do I send it to her?
freight is gonna cost me an arm and a leg

>> No.26910411

>>26909583
My friend she has trouble making her camera focus correctly and you want to send her a super computer?

>> No.26910846

>>26909583
>I have a used cerebras cs-1
Bullshit. There is no way those are past their service life yet from anyone who invested in one only a few years ago.

Proof?
A corner of the machine with a logo and the thread+date?
Look, I know I am being trolled. I know it's 95% likely you're joking, but I once got my hands on some HPC gear that I shouldn't have...

1. So in case you're not joking: at that level of machine, there might be export controls.
2. Additionally, I assume it's a standard 480 Volts AC, so she won't even have the necessary power hookup to use it.
3. Zero chance she could find a friend who could meaningfully program for it without access to their documentation, which they will not have, and you might not even have.

Lastly, as for "Could it render her 3D?", if you have access to one of these, then you would know better than asking some randos on 4chan. The answer is "no", because while it can do FP-32 it isn't built for anything as simple as processing a stream of video data. I wouldn't expect the libraries to be optimized for that at all. More like crazy CFD or FFT workloads. Giant sparse, N-dimensional matrices, not latency-sensitive graphics workloads.

Both logistically and price-wise, you might as well buy her a A6000 or two than try to negotiate a cabinet-sized supercomputer all the way to Japan.

>> No.26910950

there's too many
I can't save them all...
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kson&sp=CAI%253D

>> No.26911232

>>26910950
https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/kson3dmirror

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I love this bitch and her big round butt

>> No.26912249

>>26884228
https://twitter.com/AliceQuartet/status/1541073567634567168

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>> No.26913604

>>26913456
Wow that looks like shit. I don't know how to make a webm. Have this:

https://streamable.com/v5t4bm

>> No.26913625

>>26907609
>>26908702
Oh my god she even tried dancing along. And she tries to play Basilisk Time the harp at 1:37:00, and, uh, she owns a harp? The fuck? How much does a harp even cost?
I hope GMMF comes back somehow, or some other open-ended collab opportunity, and she gets the chance to join as an official gang member...

>> No.26913733

>PJK has sex with countless H*l*live members
>kson creates the 3D mirror ploy to get a bunch of 2-views in her bed
I see how it is

>> No.26913800

>>26913456
>>26913456
I always have to re-read my own self-written guide before making one. Normally getting it under the filesize limit on 4chan is the challenge, but it looks like you aren't anywhere near that. Here's my notes for a VP8 webm:

- Two pass process.
- Strip audio with -an.
- Tune -crf between 4 and 63, lower being higher quality and higher file size.

ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -b:v 0 -vcodec vp8 -crf 50 -pass 1 -an -f webm /dev/null
ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -b:v 0 -vcodec vp8 -crf 50 -pass 2 -an output.webm

So it's a game of changing that 50 to a value as low as possible without going over the file size limit.

>> No.26913820

>>26894834
Didn't he only give her a new years kimono? That's different.

>> No.26914141
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>>26913456
>>26913604
>>26913800
Here is my attempt with crf set to 15. Stands for "constant rate factor", roughly like a bitrate setting, though I'm sure someone with more AV knowledge could correct me or refine my definition of that a lot more.
Anyway it's still 50% larger than the input webm, it could probably be smaller (or allow for higher quality) if I knew more myself.

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No matter what settings I use it comes out at 300kb

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>> No.26917475

>>26882989
>her first 3d was a collab with 4 males
god I can't stand the fact that there is a gang bang on kson going on and I'm not taking part

>> No.26918236

>>26901468
is that image implying that kigurumi actually is anime in real life, and the problem is just the shading of real life

>> No.26918633

>>26913800
just use webm for retards

>> No.26919455

>>26907609
WHAT THE HECK IS THIS? She's so cute!

Subbed.

>> No.26919555
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I like this

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>> No.26926061

Boss doko

>> No.26926544

>>26926061
sleeping in, she did a lot of dancing yesterday

>> No.26927564

>>26926061
Boss awake and rt stuff right now.

>> No.26929603

>>26901468
>But for anyone who's tried to do anime style, they'll kinda know.
>Bottom is a Cell Shading Material I made, just to show where you could take it.
That makes sense and thanks for the quick demo. It's been a looooong time since I did any of this.

>> No.26931209
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See you tonight for the recap stream

>> No.26932558

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmwT1-56_Bw

>> No.26933774

Member post

>> No.26933825

>>26933774
god that video is cute.

>> No.26933889 [DELETED] 

>>26901468
Now send it and explain it to her without being banned or blocked

>> No.26934342

I want to know why she chose Mogra.
It's not the most famous place and most of the EOP fans have come from the regular threads from /a/ on 4chan.

>> No.26934416

>>26934342
Maybe Mogra chose her? Because I doubt she even knows what Mogra is.

>> No.26934630

>>26934342
wut

>> No.26934717

>>26934342
>MOGRA
idk, it's a well known place in Akihabara where DJs usually hang out
https://www.twitch.tv/mogra

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>> No.26939143

>>26936491
is this the tier 2 members only 3d live?

>> No.26941798
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>> No.26945323

>>26932558
Gonna be starting in a few minutes.

>> No.26945496

>>26932558
>配信の感想などは #ksonONAIR のタグでつぶやいてくれますと嬉しいです!
There's your chance chance to give her feedback.

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>diarrhea

>> No.26946899

>>26946346
PEANUT BUTTER

>> No.26947276

that song collab is with someone she already collabed

>> No.26947301

>>26947276
Rika

>> No.26947363
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>>26929603
>>26901468
>>26895862
>>26895451
>>26895379
>>26895281
>>26895243
>>26887285
>>26886736
>>26886564
>>26886259
>>26886138
>>26884565
>>26884530
>>26884457
>>26884168
>>26884003
>>26882889
Calling all Shin'eitai with technical knowledge and constructive feedback on her lighting/shaders/whatever. See: >>26945496
Use her hashtag and give her feedback.

>> No.26947409

>>26947363
It's honestly hard to give feedback if we have fucking idea what kind of setup and environment she used on that 3D stream.

>> No.26947719

SHE KNOWS LIGHTING WAS FUCKED

>> No.26947727

She's talking about the lighting making her face pale LMAO

>> No.26947754

So she's aware of the problem, now someone help her to fix it... I wish I could.

>> No.26947774

well, she fucked her facelight herself, lol

>> No.26947794

so she's the one who fucked it up LMAO

>> No.26947892

I expected more resistance from that

>> No.26947955

Well at least she knows. I think she needs to hire assistants so they can have fresh eyes looking at the models/stage/movement, etc.

>> No.26948180

She seems really aware where the problems were. So let's see.

>> No.26948347

>she rushed 3d cause most likely she will participate in some event

>> No.26948394

>>26948347
If that was rushed it explains some things

>> No.26948423

>>26948347
KIZUNA AI COLLAB IKZ

>> No.26948429

>she rushed it
lmao
what a dork

>> No.26948465

>>26948423
Anon, you need to let it go. Kizuna Ai is just as dead as Kaguya Luna.

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>>26948465
>Kaguya Luna

>> No.26948532

>>26948394
it was like this
>someone approached her to invite for event
>he thought she already has 3d, due to amazing l2d
>yabe, i don't have it yet
>rushed to make it

>> No.26948580

>>26948347
Fan appreciation gachikoi offpako?

>> No.26948590

>>26948347
Could have just prepared the model without rushing a stream for it. Holo/Niji both have had instances of people showing their models off at an event first and doing the proper "reveal" stream later.

>> No.26948706

>>26948465
I know :(
Truthfully, Oyabun's sendoff concert gave me closure. Luna was my favorite of the early vtubers, by far, so never having a proper farewell still hurts. I'm glad she's doing great, and I loved Pmaru's 3D concert but... I haven't been able to follow her transition as I did with Kaichou to Souchou.

>> No.26948765

>>26948590
3d was fun, scuffed in some parts, but fun nonetheless, as for indie doing it basically by herself + 2 managers it's quite amazing, also we know she is aware of the problems 3d debut had so it will be only better in the future.
She wanted to show her 3d to You first.

>> No.26949106

>>26948532
she did have it but was planning on debuting on a later date

>> No.26949300

>>26948765
Oh no, I had fun too, it's just that as she's saying herself she'd rather have taken all the preparation time she needed.

>> No.26949365

>>26949300
she knows, and is dissatisfied

>> No.26949476

>>26949300
>>26949365
also japs are brutal on the internet, so let's hope she won't get depressed due to harsh comments

>> No.26949508

himono-sensei...

>> No.26949615

In the flesh at comiket.

>> No.26949630

>>26949476
Nah, the important thing is she knew she fucked up.

>> No.26949660

>>26949508
She is married now, Abe is very happy.

>> No.26950012

>>26948765
The 3D is definitely amazing and I love her the way she moves.

With all it's flaws, she was doing something similar to what corpos were doing, with way less staff. Tech wise it should also be possible to reach a comparable level to corpos.
A lot will come from experience.

>> No.26950204

>>26950012
This is my opinion as well.
She is so evocative in how she moves, even in 2D, and 3D that beautiful energy comes out even more.

>> No.26951167

I'm really confused how there are accounts who have their member milestone message for longer than she had membership for. I have only ever seen it on Kson's channel.

>> No.26951344

>>26951167
she probably enabled memberships in the past but closed it anyway after joining hololive.

>> No.26951590

happy she's sharing the process, this is interesting.

>> No.26951598

>>26951344
No the first time she got it was February last year. People who signed up the first day have an extra 3 months on their milestone message for some reason.

>> No.26952034

>>26951590
It really gives perspective for the indie scene.
She also said that their are a lot of "bad actors" at the indie scene that just like to make bank. They would overprice services/products to indies who don't have connections to good artists/modelers/etc.

>> No.26952147

If there is a Kson Live Concert, I believe shineitais will bring extra blue pen lights just for the Basilisk song kek.

>> No.26952220

Guess this is the trip she talked about a few months ago

>> No.26952588
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>the next gunpla stream is more than a week away

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>>26947363
Some mad lad actually did it.
https://twitter.com/zugi_da_ze/status/1541423794304290817?s=20&t=Lb_c_qeDo8IZK0OHtQN4TA

>> No.26953758

>>26953633
holy based

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>>26953633
She already replied to it too. Wonderful.

>> No.26953798

>>26953633
>>26953766
I kneel

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>>26953633
Damn he got a reply already. Hopefully this fixes everything

>> No.26954043

Now someone make a similar guide for her camera.

>> No.26954173

>>26954043
not a bad idea, she's looking at her tags right now.

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>>26953633

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>>26953633
HERO.

>> No.26955864

>>26953633
King.

>> No.26955927

>>26948465
If rumors are real, Kaguya Luna slept with Kizuna Ai's husband

>> No.26955982

>>26948465
>>26948706
There will be a Birthday celebration for Ai-chan on the 30th. They teased several announcements.

>> No.26956366

https://twitter.com/CielP_8617/status/1541315910698692609
CielP-niki wants to make another original song for her.

>> No.26956702

>>26955982
Thanks for the tip, Anon. I might've missed it.

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>> No.26960397

>>26953633
>Linear light (lame)
>Flattened lightramp (cool)
What a legend

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>> No.26962213

Fast board

>> No.26962708

>>26962213
What happened?

>> No.26964380

>>26962708
Roa is back, they found out who's desuwa, Mori compromised Gura's safety and more

>> No.26965102

>>26964380
who was desuwa, did she turn out to be debi like the ratts suggested, or someone else?

>> No.26966567

>>26964380
x2 >>26965102

>> No.26968541

Damn, anime shaders really change the whole thing
https://youtu.be/xf21CBx8rYs

>> No.26968878

>>26965102
>>26966567
people are still saying she's debi. that's just it.

>> No.26973282
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>> No.26973854

kson
wheres the fumo
fumo doko
i need it

>> No.26974189

Does this Pop-up stores have security? I don't want an asshole to use party drugs on her while she's gone there to drink.

>> No.26974763

>>26974189
Go there. Be the literal shin'eitai you were born to be. It's your time, Anonymous.

>> No.26976343

>>26974189
She will get a VIP area, no one will interact physically with her.

>> No.26977087

cute retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWcDejsLMrQ

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRqLIfP_j9Q

>> No.26979313

>>26979039
Polka?!

>> No.26979551

>>26979313
Nope, she is you
>Non Anon

>> No.26979772

>>26953823
did she say anything about the weird model on her stream?

>> No.26979908

>>26979772
She noticed a shadow on her face during the first part so she increased the lighting which is why her face was completely white when they went back to the stage. She then reverted it for the last song.

>> No.26981608
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interesting style

>> No.26983656

she's saving them...
https://youtu.be/r9orh9uyiSo?t=4290

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>>26983656

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>>26983656
This bitch is an inspiration

By the way did anyone catch if she said she rented a studio or does she own all the equipment herself? Because if that's the case then she has 5 mocap suits ready to go whenever, that's pretty cool

>> No.26986632

>>26983656
Damn. Feels so strong, even a toaster-tier N5 such as I could hear them clearly.
>人性の希望, みんなの希望
>もう, そう, 色んな人も希望
>やっぱりね
I think, anyway. More than likely I misheard something.

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Medium-speed board. Much better than earlier.

>> No.26995525

Bump

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_djNpDqm3Q

1 year ago

>> No.26999593

A very important poll, please vote
http://poal.me/fdtmhh

>> No.27001188

that was hard

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>> No.27007601

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1541646544864448512

Day off today, and it's hot

>> No.27009540
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GMMF!

>> No.27010050

>>27007601
C'mon girl, this is just another Atlanta summer

>> No.27010738

>>27007601
Euro here, it's really fucking hot

>> No.27011642
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Sleep in today

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>> No.27015255

Bump

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>> No.27023659

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v1THLW7JuQ

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>>27023659
IKZ

>> No.27024224

https://youtu.be/7v1THLW7JuQ
https://youtu.be/7v1THLW7JuQ
https://youtu.be/7v1THLW7JuQ

>> No.27025028

Should be on Kson's channel. Rika already has a lot of covers.

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>>26956702

>> No.27025131

>>27025028
It just means that Rika was the one inviting Kson for it, not the other way around.

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https://youtu.be/cxvAAEIEsJk

>> No.27027941

>>27027536
https://files.catbox.moe/zlev3t.jpg

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>> No.27031212

Kson doko?

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>>27031212
chillin

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>> No.27034488

is this her 3D konbini?
https://booth.pm/ja/items/2536916
the lighting here was way better than her Original stage and only costs ~ 9 bucks.
If so, i think she's being scammed.

>> No.27034851

>>27034488
The same issue existed there it just wasn't as noticeable since it uses more natural lighting there instead of bright stage lights.

>> No.27035722

>>27034488
The sunlight is what sells is.
Night scenes are a bit harder to setup and need a bit more thoughts about color, but also offer a lot of opportunities to create and reduce visual interest using light, to guide the viewer

>> No.27035788

>>27035722 (me)
From the way she talked about it ... I get the feeling she actually did a lot more work herself than I thought.

>> No.27036167

Hmmm....She didn't post about the song collab and she didn't post GNMF, intresting.

>> No.27036646

>>27036167
>intresting
how so?

>> No.27036793

>>27036646
She hasn't tweeted/retweeted in a12 hours which is rare.

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>>27036167
She hates us!

>> No.27037001

any clue on who is collabing with her?

>> No.27037058

>>27037001
>>27024224

>> No.27038528

next off-collab when? I thought she wanted to off-collab with pikamee?

>> No.27038797

>>27038528
I think the issue is on pikamee's end with her being a shut-in and all

>> No.27038880

>>27038797
Really? I always thought she would have no issues with kson.

>> No.27039080

>>27038880
she's struggles to interact with other vtubers in collabs
she might have a panic attack meeting her internet friend irl

>> No.27039200

>>27038880
I have anxiety problems and it can be a struggle to get my self to go out with friends that I have known for decades. Pika's case sounds a lot worse than what I have, and she'd be meeting someone for the first time.

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>> No.27041368

>>27041289
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE

>> No.27041922

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1541875314569072645

>> No.27043109

>>27041922
Guess she went to bed really early

>> No.27044229

>>26882794
Is that good?

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>> No.27046989

>>27046546
smol souchou

>> No.27048087

>>27044229
Even if it's nothing big, it's still a nice gesture. Now it's around 20 different members that interacted with something related to her in some way.

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Nega-Yotsuba

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I miss the days when she streamed every day...

>> No.27052478

>>27048656
After her summer vacation it'll be back to normal... probably

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