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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

[Anonymous No.]

>>27218716
nah minecraft community is different beast thats why they got those numbers

[Anonymous No.]

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>79,770: Hololive (Hololive)
>28,632: Pekora (Hololive)
>27,682: Mio (Hololive)
>26,461: Tsuna (VSPO)
>24,631: Hal (Neo Porte)
>22,658: Gwelu (Nijisanji)
>21,419: Mumei (Hololive)
>19,892: Subaru (Hololive)
>19,390: Okayu (Hololive)
>17,839: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,637: Fauna (Hololive)
>16,207: Watame (Hololive)
>15,775: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>13,778: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,529: Kobo (Hololive)
>12,109: Polka (Hololive)
>11,944: Lize (Nijisanji)
>11,867: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,948: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,716: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,295: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,124: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,013: Ame (Hololive)

[Anonymous No.]

>>27218607
they are also very incompetent in responding to Luxiem's popularity.
This was because they didn't expect Luxiem to be famous and they didn't have a roadmap for Luxiem.

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>>27218853
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7
5) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 7
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live
7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 114,132 - 1 million subs celebration yakiniku
9) Iroha (Hololive) - 124,349 - 3D debut
10) Salome (Nijisanji) - 71,690 - English study
11) Salome (Nijisanji) - 78,179 - Resident Evil 7
12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 88,559 - Resident Evil 7
13) Chloe (Hololive) - 137,594 - 3D debut
14) Salome (Nijisanji) - 99,770 - Resident Evil 7
15) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42,188 - Rust
16) Koyori (Hololive) - 105,030 - 3D debut
17) Salome (Nijisanji) - 80,943 - Disaster Report 2
18) Debi (Nijisanji) - 54,133 - Response battle tournament
19) Flare (Hololive) - 86,846 - 3D birthday live
20) Gura (Hololive) - 52,614 - Unarchived karaoke w/Amelia
21) Lui (Hololive) - 100,833 - 3D debut
22) Subaru (Hololive) - 40,612 - Super Smash Bros.
23) Salome (Nijisanji) - 44,230 - Disaster Report 2
24) Sango (Nijisanji) - 103,915 - 3D debut
25) Noel (Hololive) - 64,178 - 3D live
26) Masaru (Nijisanji) - 79,911 - Niji Typing King tournament
27) Laplus (Hololive) - 154,513 - 3D debut
28) Pekora (Hololive) - 51,971 - Holocure
29) Calli (Hololive) – 44,187 – Myth Off-Collab
30) Hololive (Hololive) – 79,770 – HoloX 3D collab "Hideout reveal"

>PER COMPANY
15x: Nijisanji
15x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
11x: Salome
1x: Chloe, Debi, Flare, Gura, Haachama, Iroha, Koyori, Kuzuha, Laplus, Lui, Masaru, Mio, Noel, Sango, Subaru, Watame, Pekora, Calli, Hololive

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
118x: Hololive
53x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27218899
>>27203919 :: Silver
>>27203848 :: Bronze

[Anonymous No.]

>>27218522
Wasn't that group exposed as a bunch of cheaters? I wouldn't take those numbers seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27218747
>thread die right after
What did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.]

Final /news/ roundup for 30-06-2022
>>27195097 (Cross-thread)

June Spotify for HoloEN
>>27208843

Holocure Data
>>27150306 (Cross-thread)

Recent clip numbers
>>27166865 (Cross-thread)
>>27167282 (Cross-thread)
>>27167895 (Cross-thread)

[Anonymous No.]

>>27218899
>15-15
LOL, not even buffed Salome could help Niji to win a month

[Anonymous No.]

>>27218899
Jesus, none of the 3D anniversaries from Nijisanji got in the tally this month. Why are they so low?

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>>27218880
What exactly would you do with Luxiem? It seems like they're just pumping the Chinese market for as much cash as possible before they get bored and move on, or have another chinkout and get canceled there. Not sure there is any better "roadmap" than that.

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>>27219022
numberfags death incoming

[Anonymous No.]

Final /news/ roundup for 30-06-2022
>>27195097
June Spotify for HoloEN
>>27208843

Holocure Data
>>27150306
Recent clip numbers
>>27166865
>>27167282
>>27167895

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>>27219106
Numbers got insanely inflated with Salami. She wiped out several 3D all on her own. On top of that 5 3D debuts from Hololive.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>27219228
PekoMiko home

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219228

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>>27219112
anikara just throws shit at the wall and hopes some sticks
on the other hand, cover has prepared a long plan for their talent before debut, see how cover treats HoloX

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>>27218716
Didnt kronii want to do it by starting a beef with fauna and mumei

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219161
Why do artists not like drawing Iroha with holoX?

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>>27219322
Yes, and then they stopped playing MC and it went nowhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219281
Chumbros, I thought this was our thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219288
Only on the JP side anyways. ID and EN are left running like a chicken with its head cut off.

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji: Low effort and reckless profit seeking, thinly disguised by virtue signaling the false freedom and fake inclusivity of its talent with blatant pandering, exploitative of both talent and audience, hypocritically involves itself with the Chinese market

Hololive: Actual sustainable business practices and ethics, greater avoidance of political controversy and drama which ironically draws more heat due to refusal to pander to China, strong internal support network and good relationship with their community

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219228
Mori the second highest HoloEN in terms of stream time. Her work ethic is fucking unparallelled it's insane.

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>>27219112
The thing about Chinese market is that,

>Working with bili2
You won't get your money back, maybe 5% or maybe more but they'll keep most of it
>Chinese fujos
Why would they buy official merch from the store when they could buy the cheap ones sold in their country. Luxiem's VP is already kept in .rar and sold widely in Chinese forums.
>Sea fujos
Too poor to buy Luxiem merch, will go for the cheaper option too
>Chinese popularity
The girls has an attention span of a hamster, they won't like Luxiem after they've found another person to idolize. Who would idolize streamers anyway? Luxiem sucks at singing and doesn't push songs more often. Sykkuno and Toast is at least funny and charismatic to have female fans for years

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>>27219399
>ID and EN are left running like a chicken with its head cut off.
Thats sad when you think about it, Even when cover doesnt have anything prepared for the en and id branch they still clobber and mog nijisanji's en and id branch.

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>>27219322
No, Fauna wanted to start shit but Kronii was afraid her faggy fanbase would attack Fauna over it so she had to keep re-iterating that they were friends and she wasn't upset

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>>27219371
Since when?

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>>27219511
She loses out to the chimken though and IRyS has practically the same amount of hours

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>>27219511
Based, Gura and Ina could learn a couple of things from Mori, the pillar and flagship of EN.
We should be grateful she is with us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27180638
how's that balls anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219598
Yeah Mori is one of the most influential vtubers of our time she even got on rolling stone

[Anonymous No.]

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TWITCH TALLY *

- 30Jun
> 11,553 : Jingburger (KR Isegye Idol)
> 11,180 : Shoto (EN Indie)
> 10,199 : Jururu (KR Isegye Idol)
> 9,446 : Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 7,397 : Kainen (EN Indie)
> 5,506 : Mysta Rias (EN Nijisanji)
> 4,766 : ZilverK (SP LA RATIZA)
> 4,620 : Silvervale (EN VShojo)
> 4,612 : Trickywi (EN Indie)

Comments >>27210706

>JUNE 2022 TWITCH GOLD
1) VIichan (Isedol) - 15,498 - Vocaloid WC React
2) Gosegu (Isedol) - 14,571 - VR Chat - tween model showcase
3) Ine (Isedol) - 14,343 - Zatsu, React
4) Lilpa (Isedol) - 16,556 - Zatsu, React
5) Kris Yim (Board of Trustees) - 19,915 - Black Mesa (Twitch main page)
6) Jingburger (Isedol) - 15,804 - Voting in anime OST championship
7) Shoto (Indie) - 12,513 - Playing Unpacking
8) Ine (Isedol) - 22,248 - Zatsu, React + The Spike
9) Gosegu (Isedol) - 14,832 - Poolside VR Chat
10) Nimu (Indie) - 21,050 - Among Us, Zatsu (7,501 before Raid)
11) Ine (Isedol) - 20,477 - Zatsu, React
12) VIichan (Isedol) - 14,668 - Butter cover MV in VRChat
13) Ine (Isedol) - 20,357 - Zatsu - model expressions update
14) Lilpa (Isedol) - 15,177 - 20 Minutes Till Dawn + Zatsu, Naver catchup
15) Jururu (Isedol) - 16,361 - Artery Gear: Fusion + Watching Waktaverse MVs
16) Ine (Isedol) - 13,021 - Continued Naver and clips catchup
17) Shoto (Indie) - 15,555 - Valorant with Vox
18) Lilpa (Isedol) - 15,717 - Zatsu after group song recording
19) Ine (Isedol) - 18,622 - Zatsu after group song recording
20) Jingburger (Isedol) - 12,455 - Expressions update + Valorant + Poopy Parker
21) VIichan (Isedol) - 11,037 - Zatsu, React + Chivalry 2
22) Ine (Isedol) - 14,031 - Zatsu, VR Chat React
23) Lilpa (Isedol) - 15,928 - Return, React - Naver and clips catchup
24) Ironmouse (VShojo) - 14,236 - Speak Of The Devil with Mori Calliope
25) Lilpa (Isedol) - 14,481 - Umamusume
26) Jururu (Isedol) - 13,871 - Reacting to the weekly WAK music top + Umamusume
27) Nimu (Indie) - 14,513 - Talking about the Ibai boxing event
28) Lilpa (Isedol) - 15,006 - Zatsu, React + Unpacking
29) iDrkTV (Vibin’ n Thrivin’) - 22,166 - The Cycle: Frontier - featured stream
30) Jingburger (Isedol) - 11,553 - Valorant, Umamusume, Sims 4, Zatsu

>PER COMPANY
23x: Isegye Idol (Isedol)
4x: Indie
1x: Board of Trustees, Vibin’ n Thrivin’, VShojo

>PER STREAMER
7x: Ine
6x: Lilpa
3x: Jingburger, VIichan
2x: Gosegu, Jururu, Nimu, Shoto
1x: iDrkTV, Ironmouse, Kris Yim

>June Twitch month end chart
>>27211276

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219525
Basically if Myth wasn't as ambitious as they were, there would have been zero "special" moments. The recent Gura and Kiara bday stuff shows that Cover pretty much just rejects anything that requires effort on their part.

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>>27219525
its not the fault of the niji management the blame lies more on the livers who were given a chance of a lifetime and yet squandered it all by doing boring stuff that could not grab a big audience

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>>27219514
Fun fact: from what various chinese youtubers say, russian figure skaters are somehow extremely popular in China, complete with idolfaggotry, unicorns and fujos going full mommy mode for them.

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>>27219288
Note: This only applies to HoloX because they're the only generation which is Unity enough to stand as a powerhouse

The past 3 gens all have a member missing, Sankisei was never strong enough as a group in terms of singing and dancing to hold their own in that arena, Yonkisei had so many problems, and 5th Gen was a member down from debut which likely threw all the plans for them into disarray, on top of the issues with Yonkisei spilling over.

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>>27219569
Right, but she's put out 2 EPs (3 if you count her roommate). Like compare her to Suisei or Azki in stream time for similar musical output. It's fucking insane how much Mori streams compared to the rest of HoloEN (other than Kiara I guess?)

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>>27219705
>>27219717
So what youre saying is that if Myth had debuted in Nijisanji they would have been as twice as popular and get 100% support from management? Man what a waste of talents

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219763
Ame

[Anonymous No.]

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>21,634: Mumei (Hololive)
>17,658: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,937: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,473: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,013: Amelia (Hololive)
>9,842: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>7,013: Uki (Nijisanji)
>6,993: Yugo (Nijisanji)
>6,415: Vox (Nijisanji)
>6,112: Kronii (Hololive)
>5,770: Ike (Nijisanji)
>5,266: Shu (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR JUNE

1. Gura (Hololive) - 24,412 (The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe)
2. Gura (Hololive) - 18,716 (The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe)
3. Kronii (Hololive) - 10,059 (Powerwash Simulator)
4. Gura (Hololive) - 20,896 (Minecraft w/Amelia, Fauna, Kronii, and Baelz)
5. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,190 (Graduation ASMR)
6. Fauna (Hololive) - 8,655 (Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag)
7. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 10,389 (650k Subscriber Countdown)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 23,246 (Minecraft)
9. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 28,183 (Tier List Collab w/Shu)
10. Gura (Hololive) - 24,168 (I am Fish)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 23,575 (Switch Sports w/Shion ToT )
12. Kiara (Hololive) - 28,531 (New Outfit Reveal)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 12,740 (Unpacking)
14. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 11,627 (Punching Bag ASMR)
15. Gura (Hololive) - 22,549 (I am Fish)
16. Gura (Hololive) - 34,729 (WWE 2K22)
17. Gura (Hololive) - 43,127 (4 Million Subscriber Unarchived Karaoke Special)
18. IRyS (Hololive) - 12,014 (CHaDcast Episode 6 w/Mori and Baelz)
19. Vox (Nijisanji) - 12,093 (RP ASMR)
20. Gura (Hololive) - 52,622 (Unarchived Karaoke off-collab w/Amelia)
21. Gura (Hololive) - 63,036 (Birthday 3D mini Concert)
22. Ina (Hololive) - 28,658 (Super Smash Bros. w/Amelia, Kiara, and Gura)
23. Vox (Nijisanji) - 11,720 (FNAF Help Wanted)
24. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,885 (The Convenience Store)
25. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 16,719 (New Music Video Celebration)
26. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,965 (I don't even know anymore, probably something gay)
27. Mumei (Hololive) - 25,672 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
28. Kronii (Hololive) - 26,657 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
29. Mori (Hololive) - 44,358 (Off-collab karaoke and chatting)
30. Mumei (Hololive) - 21,634 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)

>PER COMPANY
Hololive - 20
Nijisanji - 10
Others - 0

>PER STREAMER
11x: Gura
6x: Mysta
4x: Vox
2x: Kronii, Mumei
1x: Fauna, Kiara, IRyS, Ina, Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219748
Blame lies on the management then since any other company would have done a better job than cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219778
Yeah or they would have been terminated
for being 2views because literally not even a single EOP watched Nijisanji back then and the only EOPs that watch NijiEN right now are there thanks to Holomyth

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219818
*JUNE TOTAL EN MEDAL COUNT*
>>27208807

*TOTAL EN MEDAL COUNT OVERALL*
>>27208979

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>>27219763
Hasn't IRyS released plenty of music too? I'm not even an IRyStocrat but her output is pretty high too, though those are just not as successful. Also it's not so much that Mori streams a lot but more that HoloEN is just generally lighter in terms of streaming compared to the JPs, especially the top end.

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>>27219748
lol i remember they name was Holo5, and already build some power ranger kayfabe

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219288
>>27219748
>tfw Myth and Council is exactly that, but Cover just ignores them
I kinda get that they prioritize domestic market and have many plates spinning while trying to expand into other media, but it still sucks how little support EN get despite being on the top of western vtubing market.

[Anonymous No.]

I have something to say about the way this general talks about Buffs, Debuffs, and Filters. I feel like this terminology doesn't have enough nuance to accurately capture the way this shit actually works, there aren't just one kind of Filter or Buff or Debuff. There is definitely a separation between 'hard' Filters, which permanently lower your ceiling and stop people from clicking on your stream at all, and 'soft' Filters which push away casual audiences but appeal to more dedicated fans.

In the streaming industry, there is a 'General Ceiling' set by your Hard Filters and a 'Unique Ceiling' for your Soft Filters. No streamer can even hope of touching the True Ceiling which consists of the entire stream watching demographic.

The General Ceiling is the audience you can potentially reach assuming you are able to pull the maximum number of tourists possible accounting for your Hard Filters, of which every Vtuber shares at least the 'Anime Filter' which excludes them from pulling a huge percentage of 'Flesh Only Stream Watchers' or FOSW. I cannot emphasize enough that much of a streamers success appears to be entirely predicated on their ability to simply minimize the Hard Filters which prevent casuals from discovering them at all. Gradually breaking down the 'Anime Filter' to reach more of the broader stream watching public is the simplest way for the Vtuber industry as a whole to grow. I would include among Hard Filters: Controversy Filter, Brand Filter, Gender Filter, Clickbait Filter, Content Exhaustion Filter, Algorithm Filter, Scheduling Filters, Platform Filters, Language Filters

The process of extending the maximum reach to as many tourists under the umbrella of the General Ceiling as you can, and churning them through your Soft Filters to convert them into your loyalists is what we call 'natural recline', and what we call Buff Content is tourist attracting variety content that spreads your reach farther. The more Soft Filters you put up the lower your Unique Ceiling will be but the stronger of a Floor you can build. The General Ceiling for any given streamer is getting lower all the time, because tourists Soft Filtered once are less likely to return and become repeat tourists. You can think of this as a sort of lifetime tourism limit. Among Soft Filters: Character Design, Voice, ASMR, Personality, Gaming, Singing, Coomerbaiting

In conclusion, I would argue that if you are starting out as a Vtuber, to do whatever you can to minimize your Hard Filters, as those which can be avoided are easy to dodge and there is no good reason not to at least try and avoid them, and to consider how you want to approach your Soft Filters and where you want to set your Floor, which is the actual most important metric for you as a streamer. The grind does in fact work, and if you want success you need to have staple content delivered consistently to filter through your tourists efficiently, so that you don't just lose them from disinterest before you even have the chance to transform them in real followers.

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>>27219830
>name one the other company that can do a better job than cover
none

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>>27219836
If myth was in nijisanji they would still get the eops views they might even get better optics and exposure than the one cover has provided for them. i mean if they can get the nijien female talents to 3 and 4views despite their glaring flaws they would actually do miracles if they were the ones that got myth

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>>27219692
So vshojo dominance over twitch is over? What happened? BF yabai?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27218899
Never forget

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>>27219929
hey you already post same retardness on last thread about numbers and ccv

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>>27219908
I mean it's hard too right, they're all over the place and Cover's studio is in Japan so it's not easy to *actually* support them. They'd have to put in way more effort than it would take for the JPs, at which point it may not be worth it. Also, I would argue that while Council does match the requirements, Myth is a little weaker on that end.

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>>27219956
If myth was in Nijisanji, they'd be 3 views anon. It's because of Hololive that made them bigger.

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>>27219955
Similar to the Starcraft 2 scene after 2012, the koreans came in and just dominated everything.

[Anonymous No.]

People keep baiting EN vs JP but it diesn't look like anyone bother to reply.

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>>27220016
can't go wrong with doubling down right ?

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>>27219526
And honestly I can't even blame her completely for that one, most fans are pretty fucking dumb that any RP attempts would just be bogged down by caveats and holding back

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>>27220069
not even the current nijien are 3views and myth blows them out of the water

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>>27220043
Nah, Myth is pretty tight. Not only that, but Myth and Council mesh together very well and have good synergy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220069
if myth was in nijisanji theyd get better management and nijisanji would actually get better talents than the ones they currently have and that recipe would always lead to success

[Anonymous No.]

One of Ranunculus is already on soft graduation and people don't notice it.

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>>27219908
I wouldn't agree. Between Myth and Council, there's at least one person in each who are bad at singing and another who probably can't be bothered to learn how to dance either, and their general enthusiasm for idol activities probably has something to be desired.

Yeah they have some talent and they have unity, but like you have to admit that HoloX just doesn't have any runt who particularly stands out as a weak link

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>>27219399
Not really. ID has been on a fricking roll this year with lots of partnership, open up local stores, and contents on their main ch. The problem isnt with cover, it's the people they choose to handle EN branch. ID got M-chan and she got work done

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>>27220069
EN vtuber wont be this mainstream fuck myth

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>>27220156
wait what which color? sorry i dont know their nome but i do know their shape and color

[Anonymous No.]

Noor, no need to brag about yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220016
>>27220082
ESLchama...

[Anonymous No.]

Median of peak CCV tables for the month of June
>>27209392

Channels with 1k+ median
>>27211013

Median of peak ccv June full
>>27211763

International table
>>27212290

International version of the true average
>>27214207

Per Company
>>27215211

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>>27220176
>it's the people they choose to handle EN branch
yeah thats one of the reasons why im skeptical of the whole en getting a studio in NA since we know that en management would just screw that up

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>>27219399
stop lumping ID with EN, ID is clearly more competent than whatever is going on with EN

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>>27220148
>>27220204
Hololive wasn't the first one to open an EN branch, look at what Niji did to their first EN branch with Noor in it. If they were managed well, why did the company disband it?

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>>27220204
Bueno, I take Ame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220159
I wish the two gens were both full of idolfags AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I think the only ones who are actually serious serious about the idol stuff are Gura and Kiara due to both being huge idolfags.

[Anonymous No.]

It seems like EN vs JP is starting again because Nijifans just can't learn their lesson.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220176
Yeah, ID is honestly pretty well managed, fantastic scouting too for gen3 with the grinder, all-rounder and actually finding a rising star.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220237
the red one

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>>27219955
IM, Veibae and Nyanners were their only heavy hitters and the latter two basically killed a big part of their audience by not streaming and announcing that they have boyfriends. Nyanners fell to a 7k streamer judging by her last stream stats.

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>>27220304
To be hones, I just ignore most since I think the baits are quite trivial.

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>>27219929

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220295
They don't really have to be 5/5 idol fans, but does anyone in Council even has the slightest bit of interest in idol stuff? Fauna likes it but can't sing, closest maybe just Bae?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220281
ID have the massive advantage of all being in one country just like JP, it is not really suprising that shit is more complicated for EN

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>>27220074
It's funny cause pretty much all holos opened twitch acc last month. I thought they all going start streaming over there or something. I guess they got bored and just stayed on youtube.

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>>27220304
Huh? The only bait running around rn is delusional nijifags thinking Anyakara would do better than Cover with Myth

[Anonymous No.]

Vox is going to get 20k for Melania securing the first en gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219956
>>27220148

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>>27220377
management probably saw the shitshow with the whole vtuber tagging thing and said fuck this

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220375
Yeah but they really could and should have done better regardless. Also that excuse doesn't even work for how IryS has been mismanaged too

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220304
What do Nijisanji fans have now to compete?

[Anonymous No.]

>nijiniggers botched and jinxed their lead once again
>what if myth something something

[Anonymous No.]

Final /news/ roundup for 30-06-2022
>>27195097

Holocure Data
>>27150306

Recent clip numbers
>>27166865
>>27167282
>>27167895

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>>27220176
Honestly, I feel like if you replaced whoever was behind Omega with fucking Ame, you would have seen a HoloEN that is capable of matching JP

Competent management vs no management is the difference between HoloJP and HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219778
If Myth debuted in Nijisanji they'd be getting 2-4k like the Niji EN girls and whoever debuted in their place for Hololive would be getting 10k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220281
>ID is clearly more competent than whatever is going on with EN
To be fair, I'd say it only seems that way because they don't really try anything too ambitious and stick to the basics. You can shit on Ame's CREATIVIDAD scuff all you want, but she's undeniably trying to push the envelope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220246
Thanka graphanon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220426
That's the easiest material they can come up with, but median and merch from have proven HoloEN to be quite successful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220467
retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219955
>vshojo dominance
Never seen it ever since the Twitch tally became a thing. Vshojo simply looks large to EN but not on Twitch as a platform which is dominated by Isegye.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220468
creatividad means shit if you cant organize yourself on stuff that you dont even need management on

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220341
oh no I kinda liked her

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219929
Summary?

[Anonymous No.]

Can you false flaggers find better baits please?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220304
cuz 1 year anniversary

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219228
how the hell is IRyS mogging the rest of EN in stream time despite not streaming?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220156
Wait how can you tell?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220377
roboco stream on twitch so she doesn't pollute her archive with valorant stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220467
>No Gura
>No EP on debut
Would they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220546
this thread is always trying to paint nijisanji as shitposters and leeches to fit their delusions

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220450
Yeah. I mean fricking M-chan did tons of things for the girls even when they were barely 3views. EN only need one person who is competent enough to run an errand for whatever the girls wants, someone like M-chan who even cleaning the houses (back when they live together) for IDgirls.
>Also
NijiID mane was also very competent, whatever the dude name was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220521
I've read your post several times, and I have not a clue what the fuck you are trying to say there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220374
I think Fauna is the only one due to being such a huge chumbud but yeah, she doesn't quite have the ability. Bae I thought is was just into dancing, specifically break dancing so I don't even think you can call that "idol stuff" though I guess from process of elimination. It's hard since idols are really niche outside of Asia anyways. Still boggles my mind how lucky Cover got with Gura, now if only she had the same drive her JP senpais have...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220537
You have a lifetime limit on the number of tourists you'll ever pull, so don't do anything stupid to drive away casuals like fucking up your schedule, and don't be afraid to drive away casuals if it means you can convert some of them to dedicated fans through niche content

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220467
probably less niji is literally who outside japan. not myth character design. there wont be /vt/. vtuber 2nd fad like kizuna ai shit and it will die down

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220613
Stop begging for collabs, fucking leeches

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220613
Shut the fuck up noor!

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220422
Salome - moggable numbers lately
Kuzuha - DGAF about CCV
NijiEN - implodes every week
Maybe bring back the semen demon from hiatus, then collab her with her genmates and top livers on her channel.
Also, bring back Crossick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219955
Vshoujo still dominate western twitch vtubing, it just seems that the high water mark for that entire scene was several months ago. It seems that normies started to watch them a bit from their involvement with several big twitch streamers and most of those people have drifted off now leaving them with just their normal vtuber audience. The Korean vtuber scene is an entirely different thing completely unrelated to western vtubing. That one company is basically the entire vtubing scene in Korea, since there isn't a single relevant one on youtube nor do there seem to be any strong indies outside the company even on twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220377
Really wish they would at least copy MIko and move their watchalongs to Twitch. it's so much more fun that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220649
kek also fucking good taste in manga anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220467
Niji is more competent than that. Sure they wouldnt get the explosion that gura had in hololive but with their work ethic and a management that actually supports them they could easily reach those same numbers and even more. If youve seen the female talent that nijisanji has right now its really a miracle how theyre still able to at least float in 3-4view territory

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219692
Damn ise idol dominates twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220616
>NijiID mane was also very competent
some indog said they don't get enough financial support

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220675
>Vshoujo still dominate western twitch vtubing
Their numbers are bad though, compared just to youtube ENtubers. And we all know youtube numbers are culled across the board

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220148
People overate the importance of "management" in vtuber success. A good vtuber can work around it, a bad one can geteverything they want served on a silver platter and still bore people to tears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220704
>support
>Lulu graduated
>Bora graduated, and went to rival company
>axed KR and ID, less staff
Nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220704
Myth would never have debuted in Nijisanji, just because there would be no NijiEN branch without HoloMyth in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220774
>a bad one can geteverything they want served on a silver platter and still bore people to tears
Isnt that whats happening in Nijien?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220774
Not really. Management and promotions are how you take otherwise deadfish chuubas like Iroha and get them 3D debuts with 100k+ CCV

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220704
>raid is not miracle

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220704
Baffling post. Nijisanji has no fucking management

[Anonymous No.]

Nijibros, you guys good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220649
what does 15-15 10-2 mean?
not a numberfag so idk

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220931
15-15 means tie
10-2 is a /sp/ meme for someone who blew an early lead and lost

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219929
I don't understand the problem with this post, I understood it's just saying there's a difference between filters that prevent people from watching your streams to begin with and filters that drive viewers off after they start watching your streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220594
Yeah they would. Holo EN got 50k people to turn up for their debuts, Niji EN got 10k. Hololive is much bigger name in the west and the link with the Japanese branch is invaluable, while no one cares about Niji JP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220704
Would myth also blew 10-2 lead if they were in niji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219955
a bunch of other girls realized they could just copy nyanners and veibaes voice, act like giant whores too and completely steal their audience
the only one with actual talent is dying

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220752
Always has been. The best they ever got was like 12k average for 3 of them. It's a small market for vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220931
It means nijis are on a slow and steady decline. Dont let salome's recent virality deceive you anon.

[Anonymous No.]

On topic of comparing NijiEN and HoloEN, why are there so few creative/proactive NijiEN fans in comparison? I mean, Holos get various impressive gifts on birthdays from fans, from decorated buses, Times Square billboards, celebrity recordings, tons of impressive animations, 3D models, alt l2d models, song remixes, several video games, etc. Is this just because Holos have much bigger fanbase in general or are there other factors?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219511
What do you mean unparallelled, there are 22 people on that list with more stream hours than her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220975
oh, thanks for the explanation

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/holopro_EN

New twitter account for HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221049
1. Fanbase reflects the stream
2. They have way more fans, so the likelihood of having fans willing to do those things is way smaller
3. They are Twitch streamers streaming on Youtube

[Anonymous No.]

>Fauna with her highest viewed Skyrim installment since its debut, despite being part 10 or some shit
>Faumei with 18k playing observation duty
>Gura coming back to streaming very soon
>Possible MC arc beginning again if ID server merge happens
>Riding a wave of HoloCure promoting their entire existence
Is EN, dare I say… inclining?!

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>>27220909
Someone please edit that so it has a chin like Riku's

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220826
No? Where do people get the idea that Niji EN has such amazing management? They barely seem to have any management at all and their financial support is bare fucking bones. 3 outfits for the whole branch so far. Template merch. No 3D. Barely any inclusion in official JP events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221049
less fans = less chances of an actual la creatividad fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221089
>holopro
mixed gen 3...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221089
EN males mixed with the girls
it's over...

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>>27219955
>Nyanners
Doesnt stream, bussy with boyfriend
>Veibae
Didnt stream, bussy with boyfriend, a newcomer copied her persona and stole 70% of her audience while she was gone
>Zen
Still the usual with mental breakdown now and then (nothing unsual for a tranny)
>Silver
Kinda there
>Mousey
Hard carry the whole franchise to stay afloat and relevant

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221089
Oh shit StarsEN might actually debut first before EN3

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221167
You forgot
>Hime
Fucking doesn't exist 90% of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221089
>https://twitter.com/holopro_EN
Noticeably not branded under Hololive itself. This is likely for the EN boys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221089
>Welcome to the new Twitter for hololive English. Focusing on the EN branch of hololive productions, including the 11 amazing talents from holoMyth, Project:HOPE and holoCouncil. Follow to stay up to date on events, merch and milestones. #holopro_EN #hololiveEnglish #hololiveEN
Huh so they might actually be expanding with a studio outside japan after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221049
NijiEN fans (minus luxiem) are just contrary faggots and beggars. Dont expect those retards to do anything with passion

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220834
How you do that is block off the hour and have nothing else to watch in primetime. That's how you get an 8k streamer to have 100k people watch them. They'll still be an 8k streamer afterwards though, no matter how many "promotions".

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221049
They tried crowdfunding and the organizer embezzled it for sc

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221089
They're reading these threads...

[Anonymous No.]

so... niji gold tonight? don't see any stream beating 38k from holos
>inb4 slipkochi
no, holocure buff is gone at this point, lucky to even get 35k

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221167
if ironmouse died would vshojo incline from the tourists flooding in or recline because their biggest talent is dead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221049
It's because Luxium fans are not impassioned. There's enough interest to draw a crowd, but there's no dedication, no loyalty

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221223
Ame CEO?
Ame CEO

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221089
What's the point of this anyways? They could've just renamed the old one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221049
Much bigger fanbase. Luxiem seems to get a lot of stuff and it's because they have a large fanbase...in China.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221144
Isnt that more on the talents fault for not performing well? I mean their best performers are well rewarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221167
Isn't there like a deer and someone else (Froot the name I think)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221212
>this is likely for EN boys
>Focusing on the EN branch of hololive productions, including the 11 amazing talents from holoMyth, Project:HOPE and holoCouncil
it'll be mixed

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221239
easy 40k with slipkoti

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221089
Followed by only Ame so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221246
If mousey dead, she'll bring vshojo with her to the grave

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221167
what about the cheating whore and the camwhore

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221276
Holopro is Stars and Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221049
No loyalty = no creativity

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221295
>he says this even though the JP Hololive Productions twitter has both Hololive and Holostars under its purview
Baffling post.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you guys thing Kiara's birthday will get more numbers than Gura ?
Well bc she announced her 3D concert while Gura don't

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221118
We'll see or if it just isn't a function of there being so few streams people will flock to the few things that exist. We saw what happened when there's actual overlap, with Kronii getting crushed on her Kirby stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221089
>StarsEN
>Moris friends at the party were StarsEN and the offcollab and council going to ames place is an icebreaker with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221246
if the mouse died, vshojo would die

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221354 (me)
Disregard, I read that autistically and thought it was the schizo pushing that Hololive EN was going to be mixed gender.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221089
Didn't you guys know that the Hololive English twitter was just a translated version of the JP account?
This is exclusively EN only news.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221246
incline from the news and keeping her memory/tradition alive via sob story
followed by recline since that can only go so far before people get bored

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220909

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221276
doesn't the other one just mirror the main account in english?
this one seems to be an account specifically for holoproen stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221118
HoloEn only recline because they either don't stream or debuff themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221319
Yeah so this is probably Ame throwing her weight around and forcing EN management to give her more power. Seeing as she's already making her own 3D set up, it wouldn't be the weirdest thing if she finally got sick of their shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221392
People don't read JP Twitter because they're not fucking Japanese, more news at eleven

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221358
i don't think so, it'd be lucky to get 50k, with the kiara debuff and weirdest timeslot ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221424
AME CEO

[Anonymous No.]

HologirlsEN will collab with StarsEN and you will like it

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221342
Yes but their official Hololive JP account does both as well and they don't have a separate Hololive only account.
I'm leaning into what this guy is saying >>27221415

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221246
IM is the glue that keeps them together, her death would probably doom the company, since Vei and Nyanners seem bored with streaming and the others are too weak to carry it. Maybe they'll get lucky and their next gen will be special, or maybe they'll just be a bunch of bootlickers and cloutchasers looking for a free lunch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221375
Kirby is a debuff overlapped or not anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221392
what news? Gura bailing stream again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221358
Yes, I think there's a good chance. 25:00 isn't that late for her JP fans.

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna barely beats IRyS in CCV but she has a better model and has the timezone buff. Is the plant whore not that interesting? I thought she would have more of a NA appeal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221481
News on when Mori sister are bringing people over again

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221481
The same kind of news that JP has? I realize you probably aren't used to it in the EN sphere, but Hololive JP has multiple events every month. A healthy EN branch will be the same

[Anonymous No.]

what's with all these desperate and pathetic speculations? are you guys alright?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221358
...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221411

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221358
Noon EST? Kiara's channel? No way in hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221463
Depends if they are gamers/ content creator that can support Ame studio regardless if gae as long as not fucking woke and political

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221358
I think it's literally impossible to gather more than 40k viewers during that timezone

[Anonymous No.]

Who do you think will debut first, hololive EN3 or homostar EN

[Anonymous No.]

Was Omega supposed to be the EN version of A-Chan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221411
They are crashing already? You guys think this has any relation with Salome underperforming?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221112
4. HoloEN mostly has male fans, who seem more likely than women to do these projects. The only thing that women seem to have a big presence in is artwork.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221585
EN3

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221585
i feel like ENstars aren't getting applications so EN3

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221239
niji gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWjzQMbCWxk

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221592
No

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221579
If the girls so far managed to not be political despite the state of western women, the guys will be fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221585
EN3 ES1 then homo since they still havent reached the male quota

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221592
no, in fact, he literally did jack shit except throw his weight around for a couple months and get fired, didn't even stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221592
No she was supposed to be salome but only more retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221592
Yes, A-chan flat out called Omega her EN branch counterpart during his debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221581
Salome literally had 100,000+.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221118
Add ina cumback

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221585
EN3. They started open interviews earlier and also didn't have to remind people they were still looking for people months later. We're already 10 months from Council's debut, which is about how long Council was from Myth's (also accounting for the possibility IRyS/Coco caused them to be delayed). Still expect EN3 this month and Stars maybe in the fall or winter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221463
Most likely, international fanbase seems to behave more with opposite gender collabing than jpbros, the problem more is if most of en girls wanted it kek

[Anonymous No.]

100% if that tranny was around we would had an EN pride event

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220069
>>27220148
i dunno about this, cover/coco definitely made the right choices in who they filtered but i think only gura and maybe mori were transcendent talents who would raise the floor of nijiCN
>ame
random twitchthot with no actual talent who cant stick to a schedule, would be an upper mid niji female at best
>ina
boring personality, would be lumped in with a much larger group of asians who cant speak eigo without a lisp, lack of drive due to her other job + her games autism would doom her to low numbers
>kiara
shes a professional who adapts to her work environment, this suits her well in hololive but in niji she'd be a trainwreck (like many of their talents) and shes already on the lower end of numbers in hololive
>mori
the cringe raps apparently do have appeal to some people but without the hololive boost does she actually break the niji female ceiling of her branch? chima and that girl who just graduated couldnt and theyre actually good at singing. her roommate wouldnt be able to leech off of the TT losers without the kadokawa hook up either
gura is different although she was given the perfect character for her, niji is not as good at this shit, i think its unlikely anyone but her would do much better than selen does in nijiCN

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221049
Luxiem does get decorated buses though, but yeah HoloPro gets more large fan projects.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221585
HomoEN doesn't even have a fucking head manager yet. The job opening is still there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221615
She has less subs than fucking Hayama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221623
>>27221657
>>27221689
>>27221691
Well, what is it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221585
holoEN opened their auditions earlier, they have like three month of advantage

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221089

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221688
Yeah last night?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221615
129k subs
Joined May 24, 2018

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221730
Mori is a unique case because she's the first rapper in vtubing, everyone else still does idolshit. Even if Mori's rap is shit, it still stands out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221749
She was A-chan but unlike her also a regular streamer with her oc donuts steal lore

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221411
It all keeps tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221745
Why yes I applied to be mane-san to get with the fujos, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221820
So, why didn't they ever seem to do anything? Were they that bad at their job? Did getting fired actually derail any significant plans like people here claims happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221810
yeah i mean that metal vtuber did better than most indies but she wrecked her growth due to a combo of terrible management and being a retarded menhera who couldnt shut up about politishit
no guarantee mori doesnt have a similar breakdown without hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221810
what is
>KMNZ
>Peanuts-kun
>Harusaruhi
I could go on but she's not anywhere near being the first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221749
The answer is no one knows. We don't know why he got a a model. We don't even know if he's still at the company or not. We don't know what his actual job was. We don't know if it was an actual important person or just a promotional thing with an intern running a social media account that got dropped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221810
This the unfortunate truth. Even if her music is shit(it is), it'll still do better than anything else because nips aren't around black people so it's considered cool to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221865
Omega was the one who supposedly got the taco bell thingy

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219398
Holo is good, Niji is bad. Simply as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221411
I know a shit of finances but the lunch break never fail to make me laugh

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221913
According to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221609
They probably did, but from people with no talents and no experience. Not something would be willing to let in the door at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221615
>Todoroki Kyoko
>Gold
Look anon I like the weird gyaru and will occasionally tune in but boyo this is not taking gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221865
I think he just got jealous that the girls made OCs of their personal managers and they were fairly popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221865
Move on anon, for one thing cant you see the number of Expos holoEN have been with? It takes a dedicated team and Omega is certainly part of it. Im still amazed by the partnership they had with Japan Consulate for ANYC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221865
might have gotten to cocky after jp management might have accidentally gave her credit for myths success, but might have gotten demoted due to council not getting the same results. My personal rrat is that she still has some management capacity and might also be the one managing irys

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221878
you can just look at her roommate channel for how she wouldve done in niji, they wouldve boosted her from that but not to the degree hololive did, if everything goes right maybe she'd average 5k ccv and have a couple decent songs but most likely selen range with her debut song and maybe one or two others doing well

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how many of you are numberfagging on Famitsu thread as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222049
whats famitsu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219398
Holy fucking esl, if I find another holoclipper with a hint of esl. Instant drop and report.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221988
Baffling post. I genuinely don't understand what you were even trying to say

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222012
I really hope your rrat isn't true, Irys doesn't deserve that kind of treatment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222030
Okay? Sure? I don't know what that has to do with her not being the first rapper in VTubing, I'm not the anon arguing about that, I'm just pointing out she's not the first. Hell even in the Niji / Holo duopoly, Chitose from Niji existed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221878
Please don't compare Mori to Harusaruhi. Thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2022/06/29-1/never-before-seen-hololive-experience-heads-to-crunchyroll-expo-2022

Speaking of Expo, but does anyone notice that the event would be a "Hololive Showcase" and not just a Q&A panel?
I think this might involve more than just a panel but more like a real HoloExpo-lite thing, with performances and tech demo as well.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/holopro_EN
seem Cover already established a proper branch with office and local staff like ID

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222059
Numberfag thread but on /v/ and it's Nintendo vs Sony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222159
Fuck you, retard. I'll compare whoever I want to whoever else I want to, you won't stop be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220521
What the fuck are you trying to say here, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221089
EN3 and StarsEN will make the EN branch big enough to produce enough content for this account probably. I'd hope at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222159
I mean they are both VTuber rappers, IDK what you want me to say kek. I do much prefer the people I listed over Mori's music though

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221089
So https://twitter.com/hololivetv but for EN branch only

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221601
Anycolor and Salami trend looks too similar don't you think? Eerily too close.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222216
Harusaruhi's cover album is really good

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222222
HAG LOVE???

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222200
Noor why are you false flagging as me to stir shit up between Kamitsubaki and Hololive fans?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222261
They will reactivate the bots once it returns to ipo price

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222196
Bae followed it in the last few minutes too, along with Ame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221754
>holoEN opened their auditions earlier, they have like three month of advantage
>dakooters stopped being active on the dakooters youtube account
EN3 confirmed

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/holopro_EN
>holopro
En3 and starEN soon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222362
I'm curious why they don't have StarID audition.

[Anonymous No.]

Hag
RTS
cooking

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222361
Ame was 100% the one who pushed the hardest for this. Probably pressured whatever exists of EN management to make an actual studio out of whatever she started

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221878
You're just coping, anon. You may not like Mori's songs but it undoubtedly has more influence to anime/vtuber circles and the fact that their competitors like most of NijiEN, Tsunderia members are closet Mori fans proves it.

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone list all hololive twitter accounts

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222362
What's the difference between HololiveEN and HoloPro_EN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222362
It's not an indication of HoloStars, anon. Just EN finally getting a proper twitter account, which shoul've been sone 2 fucking years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222459
see
>>27221392

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222459
HololiveEN probably has no one actively managing it. Holopro is likely Ame herself putting on a manager's badge

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222196
I suspect that when myth gather for the first time they was in Cover's new office

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222439
I feel the whole rrat about EN management is just people speculating instead of having any concrete evidence.
Only vt takes this rrat seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222459
HoloPro EN= Hololive Productions EN, which includes Hololive English and Project Hope. Just an account to focus on english branches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222532
and ENstars

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222519
Might also explain why council is supposedly going there to get oriented to the new place

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222459
HololiveEN only includes EN girls
Holopro EN both males and females of the EN branch

[Anonymous No.]

If homoen will turn out to be flop, what are we going to do holobros?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222270
I really liked her new original though the lighting on her model in the MV made it look weird as fuck. Numbers aren't even that bad on it https://youtu.be/3MDyGPhxFBo
>>27222444
Okay? The claim in question was "[Mori is] the first rapper in vtubing" which is clearly false. Hell even this cute retard called Rene from 774 debuted 6 months earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

So why did they suddenly create the account now? I don't want to keep my hopes up but are they planning something?
I know that Hololive only has a booth at AX but is it possible that we might see an announcement?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222261
Riku-kun you need to pump harder for Salome's view farms to save your IPO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222576
>will
its a guaranteed flop especially if they go the esports route like what some anons months ago speculated

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222417
If ID gets 1/5th views of a JP talent (and that's being very generous) then 1/5th of a Holostar is..100 views. Niji ID tier. That's most likely the reason they don't bother with it. They only warmed up to the idea of EN males after seeing Luxiem's success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222576
it won't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222576
we shit on em as false flagging nijinig

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222576
not care

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222524
There's tons of evidence that EN's management is a goddamn disaster. Everything to do with Irys, Omega, complete lack of promotional events, the constant complaining about managerial red tape from multiple people, Sana's problems, Mumei's problems, Gura's problems, Kiara's problems. The fact that Ame had to take shit into her own hands so much is evidence as well of how unreliable they are

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222451
https://twitter.com/hololivetv
https://twitter.com/hololive_music
https://twitter.com/hololive_event
https://twitter.com/holostarstv
https://twitter.com/hololive_En
https://twitter.com/holopro_EN
https://twitter.com/hololive_Id
And there are accounts for side projects like HoloAlt and HoloEarth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222576
Nothing? I don't care about male vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222599
The branch is getting bigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222599
>So why did they suddenly create the account now?
Ame's studio might have become the official NA studio and the account is gonna be a news one for any EN related activities

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222561
When/if they ever become a thing, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221411
hahaha, deserved!

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a Holopro_ID twitter account?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222669
There are also accounts for India and Korea but it's been dead for years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222660
Evidence like what exactly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222576
Falseflagging as Luxiem fans and post OHNONONONONO

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222669
Feels like unnecessary clutter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222576
Don't care if they flop or not just as long as they don't cause trouble for the girls.
I'm willing to watch them if they are even 20% better than Luxiem.
Atleast give us a dudes like Astel and Roberu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222705
Nope though the HoloID account basically acts like one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222705
they're not big enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222730
You just have to see one and you'll get the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>first tweet is about the lean
dropped

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222420
I will grudgepost this if this doesn't happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222705
not a relevant enough market

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222710
>India
Can you fucking imagine Hololive IN as the next big push into a new foreign market?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222730
Not really. One for each branch and another for event only and music only.

[Anonymous No.]

So, basically, this is hinting more at the fact that something new for HoloEN is going to come out soon. I hope we get a full HoloExpo experience at Crunchyroll Expo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222660
Retard. You dont even watch hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

> HoloEN first tweet is about Mori
Drop

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222532
Project Hope is already under the banner of Hololive English, you don't need to separate it. It's not an INNK Music situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222780
>a place where they treat women as third tier citizens

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222660
Yeah nice try thread reader, atleast watch streams before making these accusations and for god stoo letting this board cloud your judgement

[Anonymous No.]

HoloEN has a whole new office dedicated to them with only 11 members while NijiEN can't have an office even though there are 20 of them? NijiEN management needs to fix this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222780
SHOW BOBS AND VAGENE

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222710
scummy Yagoo let Anikara test the market before Cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222586
How many rap originals does Rene have? I enjoy her ASMR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222893
NijiEN has a new office and studio in Beijing though/.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't see how StarsEN would fail, every vtuber fujos and yumejos that are familiar with Luxiem and co. would check them out and assuming Cover stays true to their idol roots these boys won't ever collab with their female counterparts which is going to be huge appeal for the fujos/yumejoshis. But only if they're going for that kind audience and not the brotuber-route. Brotuber route is doomed to fail unfortunately.

I feel confident about the boys not gonna lie.

[Anonymous No.]

> #1 drops comment vaguely hinting at referencing another chuuba
> #2 asks who?
> #3 namedrops
Nijishills are learning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222893
The office is on B2's basement

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222893
even ID got the office before EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222893
21* members. Remember, EN3 and StarsEN are right around the corner.

[Anonymous No.]

>https://twitter.com/holopro_EN/status/1542749847509409795
>already numberfagging
Should've done this 2 years ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222586
Isn't that just Kamitsubaki's 3D in general? Koko's 3D MV also looks weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222893
they already have one though but they can't go there yet, you know still on lockdown because zero covid policy

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222962
>that account name
Is that even a real account? Looks like one of those auto-generated accounts

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222261
AAAYYYYYYYYYYYY SALOME TASUKETE

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222962
wow sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222780
What company would even try that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221290
This is the same management that allowed the copyrighted BGMs on Luca's stream one month after they were alerted of it. This is also the same management that didn't prevent Uki from leaving an archive of a DISNEY karaoke and they only took it down once the discussion about it started here in /#/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222962
> #3 namedrops
>and still presume it from 2hu
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222417
homosEN only exists to respond to luxiem boom and the ACCELERATION future male waves

cover just doesn't want to be left with the crumbs, a bit ironic if you consider that luxiem's audience is mostly chinese maybe cover realized that wat too late to turn back

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222962
Damn they made a Twitter account to announce that Mori's "Red" hit 13 million views. Crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222931
Not that much this is her originals playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3HUVR5O_djtXLupZk9hGA1h_Z4JEW0Ll
>>27222980
Eh, I think Kaf, Rim and IsekaiJoucho all look fine. Hell even Koko honestly. Just look at how beautiful my waifu is https://youtu.be/KMvUdCyIVxw

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223053
No one who ever turns away from the chinese market has ever regretted it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223053
Nijien exist to respond to Myth boom so be grateful to hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222962
So is it time to report another stealth marketer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222962
>#4 [deleted]
Based t-chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222971
well better late than never

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223116
already did my part

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223037
kek my sides, nice try nijishills

[Anonymous No.]

The HomoStarEN strategy is to simply be seiso male idols with a more clean and wholesome image just to stand in contrast with Nijimales, inclining off of NijiYABs

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222962
You guys should stop interfering with Reddit. We already have enough tribalism running rampant here just let folks on Twitter do their thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223174
RPR applied

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222780
India and Indonesia also other countries (including China, Korea, Taiwan and Thailand) are recommended by the Japanese government as targets for expansion of companies that want to expand overseas, and the Japanese government will provide funds if they do so

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223053
Your insecurity is baffling, anon. Holo males is a completely new box, no need to be threatened by it. It's like Pomu's all out war, Cover doesn't give a shit about their competition.

[Anonymous No.]

Do those stealth marketers realize they are being targeted by #?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223180
Good job calling us out for calling out stealth shills instead of calling out shillers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223174
>HomostarEN will be 5 roberus that will be fed to the twitchwhore veibei and nyanner clones
roberu your legacy...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223030
kek, Noor

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223053
No, HomoEN is Yagoo's last ditch attempt to make Stars popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223257
the man is running out of semen at this point, he needs some support to conquer the en market.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like people overestimate the market luxiem entered, for all I know notyx or idk flopped and didn't do as good, I mean comparing myth to council, at least council is doing much better. So I conclude that homoen will also flop if you give them more months (debut buff will probably huge tho)

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223280
if HomoEN success, Holostars will keep generate more gen despite under performance

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222444
Tsunderia aren't even closest fans, but rather self-admitted; some of them even do covers of Mori's songs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222962
These fags act as if reimu invented backs. What's next? Gura acting horny and "roru ruma just like Finana amirite?!" The funny thing about this if it's the opposite those fags would castrate you for being "off-topic"

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223326
Luxiem got a different audience than what they targeted initially.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223326
Prioritizing marketing to eternally horny people is always a bad idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223174
>Look at Nijimales, see Vox basically doing ERP with his audience of underage girls, be creeped out and want nothing to do with Nijisanji
>See HomoStars, they're all good boys who work hard to deliver the highest quality content possible, even if it's beyond their normal means
Unfortunately, I believe coomerbaiting is the only way to get a foothold in the market anymore. Female audiences are degen as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

What was stopping Houshou Marine from streaming yesterday night? She could have easily streamed for an hour but decided not to. Why? Is she retarded? She wasn't retarded before. What happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223425
imagine not even being in your thirties and not be able to stream because your voice is dying

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223241
>recommended by the Japanese government as targets for expansion
Is it just me or does anyone else feel like this is an all out war...

[Anonymous No.]

Who could be in StarsEN which would cause the greatest amount of seething in /vt/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223489
Nux

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223174
I think that if they manage to get a fujo audience as well, they will self segregate. Not having girls randomly pop into a male stream sounds like a plus to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223489
Loud obnoxious ghetto black dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222586
>Okay? The claim in question was "[Mori is] the first rapper in vtubing" which is clearly false.
Anon, anyone can rap but not anyone can rap like Mori does just like Ai isn't the first vtuber but she's widely acknowledged as one cause influence and popularity matters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223489
M*ri got her FRIENDS in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223489
ssethtzeentach and connor

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223420
The only other way is a brostreamer switching over, but then you're just bringing with you the previous audience so it's not really the same.
Might be a shot if you're an open top pro-player in a popular game + entertaining.

But both of those options are so rare though, easier to just play to the fujo's basic instincts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223353
>despite under performance
they are somehow profitable, of course they don't make as much as some holo or menjisanji, they but still do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223460
the voice dying was already debunked
her voice is fine and nothing stops her from streaming. she just decides not to for whatever fucking reason/

[Anonymous No.]

HoloEN showing off a new Twitter account and already people here are speculating HoloStars.
Where are the HoloEN3 speculations? They have a longer audition time y'know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221358
No have you seen her 1M outfit stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223420
There is a way to combine coombaiting fujos with wholesome bro streams with the right design

[Anonymous No.]

shota
tabletop
gun maintenance and safety

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223489
Unironically, this is a serious answer, fucking Sykkuno

Bonus points, there would be even more malding outside of /vt/, especially among the people at youtube who bought him for the platform because he was a twitch streamer

Can you imagine the sheer fucking disaster this would be

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223617
>>27222363

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223256
But Holofans shill their fav Holomems in other communities too. They also talk about Hololive in Nijisanji subreddit although it's quite dead but I don't see people complaining there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223644
>gun maintenance and safety
Sorry lad, the Homos already have that covered https://youtu.be/qU93v_VrY34 it's airshit but whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>27220975
I prefer 28-3

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223617
Kyoretsu.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EIe8x_KF5s
She's been relatively inactive for months

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223674
yeah he's locked in a contract with susan for 3 years and if he does break that for homo then susan will make sure that hololive will be nothing in less than a year

[Anonymous No.]

ID minecraft collab 6k get

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223743
Kyoretsu is an ESL though, so I doubt she will join.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223617
I think EN3 will air sooner than HomoEN, I also think that EN3 is being announced this month or in October, there are already too many things for EN during August and September.
Last but not least, I ultimately think that Cover's management , especially the EN branch is fucking retarded so trying to guess things based on logic is pointless

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223617
Dakooters went silent near the start of the auditions

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223743
please choose cunny design if it's true

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223743
Does she even have a schtick outside of her loli voice and knowing languages? I thought she might've been possible for EN2 but that didn't happen. Spics would be happy though kek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjoaEqOQRPw

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223489
Connor, granted he already joined Vshojo iirc?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223644
>making gun videos
>responsible gun ownership
>making videos like demolition ranch
>gun cleaning asmr
FUND IT

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221089
wait, is HoloEn not black anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223682
Hardly an excuse. If a sub dont wanna talk other chuubas, respect it. Doesnt matter what happens on other place, your sub your rules.

[Anonymous No.]

The new HoloEN twitter account is already number fagging. I like it.

https://twitter.com/holopro_EN/status/1542749847509409795

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223834
EN3 needs a cunny chuuba, obviously. You just can't succeed without one

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223743
>>27223797
>>27223840
She's mocked chinks before, perfect fit
https://youtu.be/hTeHEgk0QFE

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223750
Is that even theoretically a breach of contract?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223856
Would that even be permissible in the current political climate? The JP homos (really only Aruran) get a pass when they do stuff like this https://youtu.be/kUAXDPGalq0 and the one I linked previously because of airshit's popularity in Japan but I think in the US it'd be the subject of some controversy over some people going "that's uncomfy". The numbers are alright though for Aruran. Unironically the only male ASMR (apart from the brown skin babinuku cat) that I listen to.

[Anonymous No.]

We went through this thing with kyOresu when Gen 2 was being speculated. The girl is great but she can barely speak english and has a heavy accent. It would be like Yugo in NijiEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27219100
>>27220002
>Lose the time-to-500K record
>Lose the time-to-1mil record
>Lose the non-event stream CCV record
>But hey, early Salome decided to stream an hour later and put multiple 80K+ CCV streams in a single day and make room for us to just barely eke out a TIE for the month! WE WON!
These are Holo/#/igger standards now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221049
NijiEN viewers mostly watch NijiEN because 'they're not hololive, I'm not like those other plebs'.
Why would contrarians be passionate about anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224059
I don't know how bad she is, but Kiara is also ESL, although she is fluent. Is it better or worse than Haachama?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27221089
終わった...

[Anonymous No.]

>/#/ cracked the code on what made salome, gura and kobo different from the rest of the vtuber talents and how to replicate their success in one of the earlier threads
>hololive then debuts the new en twitter account which implies that they might be ready for EN3
Are the management and scouts /here/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224057
>doin ASMR gun maintenance
>doin travel stream with Google Maps to public school and religious spot on New Jersey
>doin last live stream

[Anonymous No.]

>27224129
Dumbass bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224164
Well she is obviously much better than Haachama, lol, but she has an accent as deep as Sana without half the fluency in the language.

[Anonymous No.]

This is just in.

A ROUGUE EN RECRUIT WILL SHOWCASE TAIWAN FLAG ON DEBUT!

THIS IS NOT A DRILL!

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224129
Nice, enough news to pump the stock, albeit momentarily

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224025
yeah since youre supposed to stream a sykunno for youtube and not in another streaming site or another streaming name since theoretically they own the rights to it

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224236
I know this is a shitpost but would it even matter? Gura has shown it multiple times on stream to no real detriment. I think it unironically could only be a good thing, Taiwanese fans would flock them and the West-Taiwanese who were bothered by it before have left already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224177
will we finally get an authentic Brony Bro?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224293
stream as

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224177
we know what makes them popular. But for corpos to even START replicating their success would be next to impossible because it still requires an insane amount of luck and scouting ability to find a talent like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224318
It won't matter because the talent is of Taiwanese decent themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224129
Maybe Riku needs to whip Salome more as she's tanking their stocks >>27222261

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222780
please don't, this place still has religious beheadings in current year, we are not ready for that much of a tech leap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224293
Why are you fags fixated on sykkuno? That will never happen lmao
guy is already too big to handle

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224129
>get pump-and-dumped
>b-but mih records tho!
Nobody cares about that shit if you can't sustain it, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

Noor status?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224329
someone check if tiarawhy pencil or the livingtombstone is still active
>>27224344
>But for corpos to even START replicating their success would be next to impossible
nah they only need to be a brony apparently since all 3 anomalies were bronies

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224129
>Lose the time-to-500k record
Meh, a dumb record. IRyS has that record in Hololive and look where she is now. Barely at 800k (sorry IRyStocrats, I LOVE IRyS but I needed it to make the point)
>Lose the time-to-1mil record
Yeah, her name was literally 1 million. People speed ran her subs to 1 million to see if something would happen. Now that people know she is just a regular vtuber her sub rate has slowed considerably, and she won't come close to Gura's 2 million speed record (if she hits 2 million at all)
>Lose the non-event stream CCV record
Wow, enough qualifications there to give her a win? The record is 494k for streams and she didn't come close to that
>But hey, early Salome decided to stream an hour later and put mulitple 80k+ CCV streams in a single day and make room for us to just barely eke out a TIE for the month!
Yeah, early in the month she was hitting 100k on just about every stream. Now she struggles to hit 30k. It was a meme sensation that is now over. She is MID as fuck. Deal with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224211
I think if you're better than haachama you're almost good enough honestly. Just doing your reps for like a year should take you the rest of the way

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222962
kek, poor Reimu

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224391
So which religion did it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224446
who started peddling this brony bullshit? Is this satire?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224502
kek but thats just also sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224446
Tiarawhy recently commented on a fan animation of Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224404
He's smaller than Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

If you bought Anycolor's stock at any time other than the initial IPO roll out and a few hours on June 13th then you are currently in the red.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224446
it's tiarawhy

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224520
nta but apparently both kobo and salome liked mlp toys but i dont see how that makes them a brony

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223682
Because there's no rule against it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223037
How did 2hu fade into obscurity while Vocaloid managed to remain relevant?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224587
yes a shit ton of women are into mlp, how is this a big surprise? doesn't mean jack shit, it's like a man being a fan of marvel and star wars

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224613
2hu was never relevant while vocaloid had that leek spin meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224609
>#3
So the problem is that no ones on the job

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224477
I think you under estimate how bad Haachama is. She is good enough to hold super basic conversations but that is about it. Watch the stream she did with Ironmouse. She was cute as fuck but she struggled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224582
tiarawhy for homoen
what would he even do though
although that would be funny since he interacted with senzawa before

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224683
> posts
> not comments
they need a better rules lawyer kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223420
I like how your "look at nijimales" is nijien, not jp males that exist for years. And the comparison is even with stars...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224683
to busy shilling and damage controlling here
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224613
Vocaloid was on the verge of fading into obscurity too. The middle part of the decade into the later part of the decade were dark times. However then vtubers and Project Sekai happened.

Vtubers brought at lot of attention back to Vocaloid since they are obviosly the natural progression of what Vocaloid was originally intended to be. Also like 90% of the songs Vtubers cover are Vocaloid songs which feeds people back to the vtuber content.

Then Project Sekai happened and became a massive hit not only in Japan but the entire world with the global release and it does a great job celebrating Vocaloid. That game is huge. It's time for Sega to release a new Project Diva game.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys im watching ID and enojying it... what the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

is Kaela debuffed by collabs? why is her MC collab 3k while her solo can reach 5k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224129
I've yet to see any strong evidence that she wasn't boosted by bots or view farms.
Every defense of her just relies on Youtube not obviously purging her and that she got more traction than average for a Niji at debut so that somehow explains every anomaly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224792
2hu needs their Project Sekai

Old Vocaloid producers have actually come out of retirement to compose songs just so they can be in Project Sekai. There has been a massive uptick of big Vocaloid hits just because of it. What that game did for Vocaloid is immeasurable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223743
wasn't she in the rumor pile for council already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27222420
Very persistent Anon.
My prediction is that said combo will command a small but very loyal following, and if she's a coordinator like Mio, will help the gen overall instead of being a big numbers force herself.

[Anonymous No.]

So any predictions for EN3 like who is going to join. Did any indie graduate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27224939
dakooters

[Anonymous No.]

>>27223797
she was planning on going full english vtuber before that project never happened due to "health problems"

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>>27223241
India is the best market to expand in paper, but their import tariffs are insane and their bureaucracy is a nightmare.
China and Korea can be problematic because the sentiment against Japan can be a hurdle.
Taiwan and Thailand are long time partner of Japan, but Taiwan be a risky long-term investment with them being a geopolitical hotspot and Thailand recently is unstable politically.

Nowadays Japanese investments are flowing to Vietnam and Indonesia. Early 2010s Indonesia was the favorite, then latter part of the decade Vietnam was everyone's (not just Japan's) favorite. Since the pandemic Indonesia is back on track in attracting investments after they passed the Omnibus Law, fiercely competing with Vietnam which has softened their laws and bureaucracy a decade earlier.

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>>27224939
Scarlet Johanson.

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>>27224939
EN3 will be mixed-gender

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>>27224905
she was because she went on a sorta hiatus from streaming on twitch like a month before council dropped even deleting vods and shit. but that never actually happened so it was a strange line up of events.

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>>27224939
Any potential HoloJP fan? Council are mostly EN barely watch JP except for Bae and she's a Star fan.

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>>27224939
Amber heard

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Why did you fags began using Noor in the last week out of nowhere. Did you guys finally discover that she's staff after so many months just like you fags only discovered nijisanji birthday merch in january of this year? kek

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>>27225030
No no anon, it will be all traps.

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>>27225083
noor pls

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>>27222962
My god, I fucking hate holofags who only watch nijien

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>>27225083
hey noor, already finished your lunch break huh

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>>27225083
>Nijisanji
>Merch
lol
lmao even

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>>27222576
First of all, define flop.
Like, the expected numbers, given Stars normal numbers, would be 500-1k. That's actually manageable as long as whoever they get isn't absolutely shit at streaming.

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https://twitter.com/holopro_EN/status/1542765575587344384

So this is going to be just a numbers account?

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>>27224476
>Yeah, early in the month she was hitting 100k on just about every stream. Now she struggles to hit 30k. It was a meme sensation that is now over. She is MID as fuck. Deal with it.
You'd know that, brony. You had HoloX, which lost relevance way faster and harder than Salome.

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>>27225186
they're probably just getting out the numberfagging posts to get attention, not like there's announcements to make right now

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>>27225194
Baffling post

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>>27221144
>>27223035
>Template Merch
The same as JP
>No 3D
there's more than 10 JP in front of them
>Barely any inclusion in official JP events
You really don't know anything outside of surface level.
Besides, JP events are for JP members. There's over 100 members. I have no idea why you thik this is hololive. It isn't, it doesn't work in the same way.

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>>27224939
Due to lack of hags, EN3 is hag gen:
Taylor Swift
Rihanna
Ariana Grande
Adele
Beyoncé

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>>27224177
i don't want digibro in vtuber form.

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>>27224391
IN bro...
Why are you on fucking 4chan of all places?

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>>27224613
It started as a niche Otaku community surrounding a niche game series made by a guy in Comiket and now it returned to just that
But don’t joke around with 2hu fan, when they want to, they can produce fanworks with quality surpass anything Hololive fan have ever done, and I say this with confidence

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>>27225186
Wow, I actually really like this. Bring up the off-collab and everything. I love that it's stuff super relevant to EN and not just a translation account for the HoloJP account. How much do you want to beat that this was Ame's idea and she is running it.

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Is the nijishill unironically going through all the posts in the thread and responding to everything?

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>>27225152
oh god, you are so retarded that you dont even understand how I was referring to the birthday merch and how none of you knew it was a thing until this year

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>>27225398
>Numberfagging out of the gate
>Ame
Uhhhhhhh

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>>27225417
see >>27225402
You're the retard here, nijishill. Go shitpost in the catalog or something, we're not going to fall for it

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>>27225402
imagine calling nijishill when those fuckers are all fucking holofans who only watch nijien and know fuck all of nijisanji. even you fags in here who hate nijisanji know more than those imbeciles, to see the level of those retards who keep doing that shit on r/hololive and r/nijisanji

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>>27225351
It's two worlds here, some places(like where I live) are paradise, but the state right next door might be rape capital.
Also IN has a relatively small weeb community which I'm part of.

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>>27224792
Hololive could easily make their own version of Project Sekai. They have the music, the vocaloid covers, and the relationship with Bushiroad (who is in the idol rhythm game genre with D4DJ). I would spend money to roll for my favorite Holos.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>27225460
It's not a shitpost, massive retard, its what happened on here. None of you ever mentioned anything about birthday merchandise in nijisanji until 2022 even though it exists and is done since 2019

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>>27225473
>I-it's not nijishills, just Holofans falseflagging
Do nijiniggers really?

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>>27225520
oh no no no, nijibots, our IPO scam...

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So is AZKi not having a birthday stream?

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Baelz Fauna and A-Chan are now following that new EN account

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>>27225690
Weird that it took so long for A-chan to follow an official company account

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>>27225611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyrHynHHbmY
her last year 3d concert also not on 1st july

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>>27225547
Its not holofags falseflagging you fucking imbecile. ask any of those retards anything about nijisanji outside of EN and they won't be able to respond anything. its obvious those retards are holo fans who began watching nijien.