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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>66,433: Subaru (Hololive)
>64,120: Marine (Hololive)
>62,797: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>58,571: Salome (Nijisanji)
>43,202: Salome (Nijisanji)
>39,492: Pekora (Hololive)
>31,571: Ars (Nijisanji)
>28,799: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,988: Ina (Hololive)
>20,406: Shion (Hololive)
>19,326: Korone (Hololive)
>15,695: Uki (Nijisanji)
>15,034: Nerumero (Indie)
>13,910: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,892: Asumi (VSPO)
>13,598: Kobo (Hololive)
>11,738: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,655: Vox (Nijisanji)
>11,528: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,332: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>11,194: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,739: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>10,737: Kanae (Nijisanji)

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DEAR JUNSGANG
>STOP BEING EVIL!

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>>27329492
more like most times, it's how mid level chess games usually go and I don't think there are any grandmaster equilvalents in businesses

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Apologize

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>>27329679
who or what's a junsgang?

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>>27329644
>JULY 2022 GOLD
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - Holocure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday Festival

>PER COMPANY
2x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Miko, Subaru

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
120x: Hololive
53x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

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>>27329432
That reminds me, did they announce the 2nd gen for vshojo already or is that still stuck in the management vs talent hell?

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Its almost 3am in indonesia and this hag still streaming, give it a go guys
https://youtu.be/kDncCkFNRRU

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>>27329681

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Will we have a peaceful thread talking about numbers?

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How's the catalog looking?

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>>27329138
Puts into perspective how massive Hololive is in the west, even Kiara manages to fill up panels.

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>>27329856
full of rushia/coco/artia

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>>27329837
Never, unfortunately.

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>>27329856
Like the shitstorm that was predicted

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>>27329747
no

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>>27329856
not as bad of a shitstorm that i predicted

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>>27329812
Unfortunately I can't right now as I have Mr Koro up.

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Isn't the OP girl who Asumi Sena used to be?

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>>27329812
>Valorant
Kaela is sex but no thanks.

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>>27329755
Nice try FBI

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>>27329812
>kaela
>a streamer
>actually streams
i wish she had a better debut and got more views. SUPPORT THIS INDO HAG

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>>27330015
Rust server buff can't even beat a dog playing kusoge huh

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>>27329679
sorry abe but they deserve it

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>>27329856
alot of
>please care holobronies
>please seethe, you're seething right?
>i beg you to care
threads

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>>27329890
I mean yeah like it or hate it hololive is still synonymous with the word vtubing

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>>27329939
based

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>>27330015
Ars moving in hard for the night shift

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>>27329784
2nd gen got catfished into believing that they actually had a chance to exist

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>>27329856
The second VShojo hire's identity hasn't been confirmed so it wasn't the catalog-destroying double whammy it could have been.

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Kobo will pass vox on the 4th of July

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>>27330081
Actually new outfit buff

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EN GOLD
https://youtu.be/5tjEJqh_Jbg

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>>27330124
i thought that was a different thing that didnt involve actual management?
>>27330152
should be a regular post at this point

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>>27329965
the meidos are working overtime, also appearently there just aren't alot of people active on the board at this time of day or something because there only really seems to be able three threads worth of shitposters

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>>27330241

30K

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>>27330241
mumei karaoke later

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>>27330081
rust isnt that much of a buff to ars from what ive observed when im watching her

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>>27330274
It's sleepy time in SEA so go figure.

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>>27330274
im glad noor got distracted at least since i saw him posting the toxic community thing in one of the kson threads that got yeeted

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>>27329965
Well judging from her 3d only had like 30k, most of the old fan on EN side has move on.

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>>27330274
>the meidos are working overtime
Are they going to be compensated for their job?

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>>27330438
>sea
>sleep
sea never sleeps anon its always sea

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>>27330440
>Noor
>him
Anon...

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>>27330499
yeah sure, their pay will be doubled for this

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>>27329939
Im glad you're here

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>>27330505
shut up eurocuck

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>>27330505
Or pajeets.

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>>27330540
noor is an alphabet so you can use whatever you like

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>>27330241

Why they still watch this game? They're not bored ?

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>>27330584
money is still on spics since a lot of them had salome as their oshi

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>>27330241
>I wanna play myself
8k CCV. She is going to suck badly. IRyS is damn beginner unfriendly unless she is going to spend hours grinding perks beforehand.

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>>27330540
we are talking about tranisanji

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>>27330442
I mean, a lot of JOP tatsunokos have likely left too. Like it of not, a lot of people probably liked her due to her interactions with the other Holos rather than individual merit, bantering with others is really her strong suit and that doesn’t work when the others aren’t around / got replaced by a different cast. The Box can giveth and it can taketh.

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>>27330674
I'm literally watching the stream right now

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>>27330576
Nah he's someone else, I'm the designated /#/ europoor poster and it's my job to complain about holoEN not catering to my 1 view that's up for grabs at these hours.

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>>27330674
because holocure saikyou

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Kson better have exceptional content , if not all that creative freedom talk will make me think that all vtubers need a competent tard manager

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JP trending

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>>27330809
>Kson better have exceptional content
Why would she have better content as a corporate chuuba than as an indie?

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>>27330809
>he thinks this isn’t the case
?????

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>>27330809
>all vtubers need a competent tard manager
thats the truth though
hopefully she can be that tard wrangler in vshojojp and wrangle notrushia if its really her

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>>27330809
she was an indie vtuber before she joined vshojo. she had ALL the freedom she ever wanted.

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>>27330833
13th

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>>27330833
>only 12k
doa

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>>27330741
She's gonna lose even more viewers because Twitch is not Youtube, but she might also gain new viewers however unlikely that is.

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>>27330809
Anon... its been a year of her being an indie

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>>27330188
honorary EN

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>>27330944
scared your little holo princesses will see this and realize they have better options than sticking with a black company?

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>>27330809
>Kson better have exceptional content
That remains to be seen since as an indie she should have all the freedom in the world.
>all vtubers need a competent tard manager
No shit.

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>>27330923
It would be funny if Rushia ends up being fired from Vshojo as well for the same reason.

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>>27330963
mouse and those other vshojo did have an increase once they joined
im not sure if thats gonna translate to the jp side well though

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>>27330944
To be fair it's almost 5AM in Japan

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>>27331049
I dont think she can get fired from that company seeing as how they have someone much worse like saruei based on what anons from here said

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>>27331007
My holo princess trended higher on her own multiple times.

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>>27331049
>Rushia accidentally show discord messages of them making fun of simps

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Imagine if Cover buys HoloCure from Kay Yu and monetizes it with gacha and adds in voicelines and official sponsorships.

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>>27331007
remember me again why is Mayazumi graduating nijikek?

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>>27330963
she will start collabing with fleshtubers like ludwig and mizkif.

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>>27331138
Saurei is an indie, she is not in Vshojo.

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>>27331007
noor pls

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>>27331049
Vshojo management barely exists, I don't think they will ever fire anyone.

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>>27331181
I can't imagine that to be honest, Hololive can't make such an overtly greedy move.

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>>27331267
Rushia will find a way, I believe in her!

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>>27331181
stupid idea, just give him permissions to put it on steam for free

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Has anyone checked in on Coco's remaining fanbase?

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>>27331267
I don't know if vshojo japan would have the nigger pass like holojp got.

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>>27331047
Well yes but that’s because they were on the Twitch meta already and were gaining a box that they never had before. This is someone going from a YT and more specifically a Holo audience with a Holo box to the Twitch audience on the EN side and a box mostly unknown and un-understandable for the JP side.

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>>27331229
huh i thought that she was with that group
really need to do my twitch reps

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>>27331007
You literally just had another member graduating.

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>>27330809
The first thing kson will do at Vshojo is trigger ARK arc and kill everyone's numbers

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>>27330674
The game is a good way to force a Holo to state their opinion about EN
That’s all people like to see from these streams

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>>27331332
the ones that are there are cautious but optimistic

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Which struggling low tier Holos do you think could depart and redebut with VShojoJP and have a more successful career than they are currently having with Cover?

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>>27331455
none if theyre sticking to twitch

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>>27331049
Unlikely if Kson is the one who roped her in VShojo. She will probably move in with Kson, or stay somewhere nearby and Kson can just run over if necessary. Ultimately, Rushia's downfall was - while mainly her fault - partly because none of Hololive managers were physically next to her to keep her leash.

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>>27331455
Just remember how much even a low tier Holo earns from just merch and think for yourself.

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>>27331455
None, because Cover gives equal opportunity to ever holomen
It would be stupid to jump ship

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>>27331455
Haachama, unironically
He shock-value depended style of content seem like a good fit for it

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>>27331455
no holo is struggling

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>>27331455
All low tier holos are already on par or better than top tier vshojos. So, none.

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>>27331455
>Which struggling low tier Holos do you think could depart and redebut with VShojoJP
Choco, Mel, Matsuri
>have a more successful career
None

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>>27331455
Not a single one of them. Even the lowest ranked of the HoloJP ones (Mel) has a more successful RM career than she would get on VShojo

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>>27331332
Some tatsunokos disappointed, some expressing indifference. People sad she didn’t keep her word about not joining another corpo.

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>>27331455
I can imagine Mel and Choco but that's only based on rrats.

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>>27331455
Matsuri maybe? She ramped up her rm activity,

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>>27331455
lol

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>>27331455
None of them. Maybe Kiara, but in reality, she just loves complaining instead of being actually bitter against Hololive (or is she?)

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>>27331455
>low tier Holos

Roboco made around $200k in limited merch sales (only 1hour) but pribably even more if you include the standard merch

> vshojo can ??

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Remember, no Chinese

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>>27331007
Considering a good portion of the Holo's went with Hololive in the first place to have a music career and to actually be idols, no not really? I can't imagine Suisei going to Vshojo for starters. The fuck are they going to do for her music career?

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>>27331455
choco or mel but thats unlikely seeing as how vshojojp is still new

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>>27331625
>Kiara
>one of the biggest idolfags in EN
>VShoujo
Anon are you high?

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what the fuck is this number, what currency is this? zimbabwe?

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>>27331700
Oh, RIP

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>>27331541
>Haachama, unironically
Haachama without Haatons is fucked. She relies on their fan content.

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>>27331700
Holy shit kek

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>>27331700
kek

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>>27331694
>> lol no way

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>>27331779
It's Idol Rupies obviously.

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>>27331700
Wtf I love vshojo now

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>>27331779
SEA currency is a meme, but
zimbabwe is a literal monopoly money

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>>27331332
>w-we always liked vshoujo here
>i-it's fine because vshoujo is not corporate like holo/niji
>c-creative freedom! finally!

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>>27331700
Will kson just keep joining different vtubing companies and spread her anti-CCP virus around? Is that her end goal?

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>>27331700
This can't be real

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>>27331700
I don’t think they had much of a Chinese audience but yeah, she’s still literally radioactive when it comes to the zhangs.

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>>27331863
basically this, lots of coping and denial

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>>27331700
Which discord group is this from?

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>>27331779
That's around $65. Yeah the number of zeroes is too much.

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>>27331700
I mean thats only natural since the zhangs still hate her

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>>27331455
Anon, even the low tier holos can reach crazy numbers thanks to the holobox

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>>27331625
>3
Kiara specifically went with Hololive to be an idol again though? Going Vshojo is just counter-productive to her original goal when she became a chuuba.

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>>27331455
first of all, they would need to be below any holostar because they are still profitable
second, they would need a reason to move there that outweighs the holobox

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>>27330188
Fuck yeah America!

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>>27330833
I actually had a look at what people were tweeting under that trend and 'hololive'
It's all people who have zero hololive-related tweets or interactions tweeting about how much hololive fans must be seething, with no hololive fans who are even aware of this happening in sight

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>>27331700
all these years and still butthurt

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>>27331700
what happens when nijien does their monthly vshojo collab?

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>>27331897
Did I mention the rrat I had about coco being a CIA plant meant to Foster anti China sentiment amongst young, military aged males around the world?

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is thhere a ranking for nijisanji bilibili follower?

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>>27331863
No matter how you spin it, Vshojo is a corpo.

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>>27331863
But she already had creative freedom as an indie. In fact, all vshojos did. Why did they join that company again?

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>>27331694
vshojo actually takes more % of merch sales than hololive does (50 vs about ~10), while they don't take a portion of donations, which is the smaller rev of a medium to big streamer. Its a fucking scam lol

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Watame's sister has 639 watching her trying to get 30k subs

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>>27331956
Easy $250k every merch run on top of sc, sponsorships, possible concert money and relative security.

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>>27331920
I don't know, I got it from twitter

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>>27332070
>Watame's sister
link

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>>27331700
This was Yagoo's plan all along, release voldemort and the craziest menhera to sink other companies

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>>27332070
inclining?

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>>27331993
Let me guess, most of them are anti-idolfags niji/vshojo fans, or maybe Vtweeter?

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>>27332099
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G1liqYTpyc

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>>27331863
it baffles me that the main reason they still followed her was because >muh corporate freedom, and, >indies all the way!, just for kson to betray them and go to another corpo
now wait till mikecat gets 100% confirmed

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>>27332100
>release voldemort
Sio?

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>>27331993
As always, success breeds jealousy

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>>27332029
Indie creative freedom don't have corpo money even for the most superchatted vtuber

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>>27331700
Does that mean Vshojo will lose chinese game permissions too?

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>>27331700
They really didn't think this through huh?

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>>27332176
Chinese voldemort are Coco

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Vshojo is on the uprise baby. One member just conform that this is just the beginning. Holo and Niji need to pull it together not to get left behind. Cause right now while hololive sit on their tiny island alone. Vshojo is networking and become stronger. Plus with starsen coming later this month holobronies are going to fractured. Leaving vshojo as the top

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>>27332176
Sio's gone anon, you have to let her go

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>>27331993
Actually rent free kek

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>>27332153
thanks she sound nice might follow her

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>>27332194
I don't think Twitch needs any permission.

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ok, so now that kson has her "freedom" (even though she was an indie)
what fun streams will she have with her new freedom? inb4 she just does react content

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>>27332229
>ESL
Go back to sleep retard

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>>27332242
i will not rest until the fatass returns

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>>27331863
>>27331863
>>27274610
Enjoy

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>>27332070
more like a cousin

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>>27332153
>>27332246(me)
kek she reached 30k the moment i subbed

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Goob shill interview: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1520571393


Warning, extreme BZZZZZZZZ

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>>27332194
Only if the zhangs start legally attacking them somehow and it actually leads to something.

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>>27332046

they get money of merch they fund themselves, cover doesn't invest on them merch. anon

Profit > holomem

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>>27332148
For the most part yes
The other sizeable demographic there is people complaining that vshojo will ruin kson or vice versa

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>>27332256
They operate on a grey area, if companies start caring they will strike them.

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>>27332000
maybe they will just avoid kson

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>>27332256
Jap law doesn't give a fuck which platform you use. If your company has a presence in Japan, they will sue the sit out of you for copyright infringement.

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so joining vshojo should be good for her numbers, yes?

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>>27332403
Now you have to adopt her

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>>27332202
dont think vshojo is interested in the chinese market and from what i can tell the only big corpo interested is anykara

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>>27332401
Damn I just realized it doesn't use timestamp in the link. 27:20 Gura apepars

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>>27331700
Still working as a double agent I see

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>>27332467
Probably won't change much

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>>27332467
No lol, vshojo numbers are plummeting

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>>27332409

Yeah bro

Cover = stupid company

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>>27332194
Vshojo doesn't do permissions, one upside of them being an American company is that if anyone tries to start any of that permissions bullshit with them they can just tell them to suck their big American cock

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>>27332029
Corpo money and resources. Vshojo despite it's flaws is basically the closest you can get to still being an indie while having the safety net of corpo resources.

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We should really just call this the news thread, vshojo nor kson have top numbers, they're all barely 4view and vshojo has been on decline to begin with. ISEGYE is more relevant than them, they have multiple 5views.

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>>27332467
as an indie.....they can't be worse that's for sure

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>>27332525
>apepars
Lay off the booze, anon

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>>27332613
Late EU hours, it's always like this

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>>27332409
And this is le bad because...? I mean, sure, maybe before when Hololive wasn’t selling merch like hotcakes it was bad because the talent onboards the risk, but it’d a lot more beneficial now. Plus Holo also still does the generic company funded merch and it still sells so they get the best of both worlds.

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>>27332456
Sure, but they'll have to sue them in Japanese courts, and good luck with that lol

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>>27332613
Race is over for today, for now, it's /news/ time

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>>27332456
Kson and pikamee have said before that they can’t react to Japanese media or they will get in trouble iirc

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>>27332467
as an indie yeah

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>>27332613
Discussion about something that might have ramifications on numbers should be fair game no?

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>>27332680
And if they can’t appear in Japanese court then they just ban Vshojo from Japan lol

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>>27332613
we dont have a horse race today, so most likely another hologold, also dead hours

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>>27332409
This is one of the best documented areas of how cover's financing works because Lamy talked about it at length
The company will advance them the funds required for production, then they pay that back from their earnings. Some holos have sold merch at a slight loss on purpose because they were willing to pay off the excess from superchats or whatever to give their fans a better deal
Any profit made on the merch goes completely to whichever member it is

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>>27332600
Yeah Youtube and Twitch's busted ass copyright system begs to differ.

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>>27332409
they can ask cover to fund it if they want, and if so cover'd take a bigger bite off the sales. But they fund it themselves because it is more profitable to them, its just smarter. They give you the contacts, all you need to do is save the money required.

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>>27332613
A flower by any other name, this is always /news/ after the tally drops and kenjo time from the lewds

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>>27332600
Well they're free to play chinese games, but they won't get sponsorships from them anymore.

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>>27332680
dont they have vshojojp now? unless of course theyre not opening an office in japan with that branch which would be retarded on their part

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>>27332613
this has always been news hours since its after the horse race

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>>27332409

Yagoo is failure ceo bro

Riku cut 90% to him
5% to virtual
5% to employee

He is the top 50 richest person in Japan.

look at yagoo lol

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>>27332781
You dont even need to save, they can go negative salary, to an extent I imagine.

[Anonymous No.]

What are your goal by samefagging at dead hours?

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>>27332409
>>27332781
right now this entire board is a sister to /trans/ (thats sp's transfers, retard)

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>>27332947
>>27332597

ESL time

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>>27332947
Yes Yagoo very bad
Riku good, praise Riku

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>>27333050
wtf meant for >>27332787 >>27332613

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>>27332401
she kinda hinted at her being in the game at some point

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>>27333037
pic related

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>>27332947
Isreal?

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>>27332401
Lmao they made a mistake and showed Gura earlier at 8:00~

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>>27332467
it'll depend on how her fans react since she said in the past she wouldnt join another corp

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>>27332947

Ummmm.... i poor vtuber in Anycolor

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>>27333221
I wonder how kson'll spin it. I think she knows her fans see her as a person with integrity.

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>>27332947
no wonder so many niji livers are graduating. lmao.

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>>27332947
>He is the top 50 richest person in Japan.

Wow

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>>27332070
Another 2/3view I want to save and yet another 2/3views I'm already subscribed to... I subscribed to her months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333338
some of the fans are cautious but optimistic but a lot are feeling kinda disappointed after all that no corpo talk

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333338
"Vshoujo isn't a traditional corporation. I own my own model. I can do whatever I want." Not exactly a hard sell, if you're already in the tank for her anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333338
>vshojo is not like other corpos!
>I'm free to do what I want!

[Anonymous No.]

>>27332177
>now wait till mikecat gets 100% confirmed
That's going to fuck up the narrative for Vshojo fans more than anything.

[Anonymous No.]

The next year will be interesting, we just had the Vtuber equivalent of Nintendo insisting on sticking with cartridges for N64 and Square and other developers jumping ship to Sony. Should keep an eye on who is leaving Nijisanji and Hololive and start a one year countdown to watch for a revival with VShojo.

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Mirror...

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>>27333616
>Wait a moment i have to join in on this dogpile on a dramatuber

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>>27332490
fug
but she looks fun though already dropped an sc

[Anonymous No.]

>>27329522
>>27329550
This design is so good compared to Sena, what a shame

[Anonymous No.]

just wanted to say "kek" to this news: >>27321230.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333643
and the remaining fandeads since that would mean that theres a chance she might collab with a male

[Anonymous No.]

>>27332947
Yagoo is just a farm boy making it in the big city. Riku came from money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333666
Where's this from, chink forum?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333338
How this is how she going to do the next big thing. She pretty much the sora of vshojo japan that huge. Now she has the team to put her ideas into reality. She pretty much one of the best people to kick off vshojo japan no name would be able to shine like she does. Plus if the rrat true and rushia joining as well vshojo jp already has two strong people in it. Depending on the other members of vshojo japan hololive and nijisanji better start bringing their a game.

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>>27333666

[Anonymous No.]

Kson going to vshojo feels like Messi going to PSG

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333645
That means VShojo would have to be on their best behavior for over a year while at the same time looking like the goto vtuber company. Can they do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333616
t. every corpo ever

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>>27333666
how do they come up with this garbage

[Anonymous No.]

So this is her big plan that she been talking about right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333891
nah this is the durant to nets of vtubing

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333802
Yep, exciting times ahead; to throw out another video game analogy this is like Sega and Nintendo having to deal with Sony joining the competition.

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>>27333666
how you call this mental illness?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333802
You're putting way too much hope on kson anon, she did little to nothing in her year as an indie, do you really think just because she joined vshojo think are going to change significantly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333928
>>27333836

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>>27333645
Only other options are Triangle, the chink squad, OG mystery nigga, and the 3 Holostars. There's like 50 Nijis that have graduated but no one gives a shit about any except Lulu/Gibara and Bora who just came back.

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>>27333955
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27332099
do you follow the one in Phase?

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>>27333891
Messi basically WAS Barcelona, people were still in denial that he was leaving and thinking Tebas was going to pull magic tricks any day now.
kson has been gone for over a year now.

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>>27333891
>PSG
Vshojo isn't that big

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334049
link nigga

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333891
More like Pele going to play in the US at the end of his career.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334088
Neither is PSG

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>>27333987
Who's Microsoft in this analogy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333891
>Messi going to PSG
More like Bechkam going to LA Galaxy for q cash grab

[Anonymous No.]

>>27332947
So uhhhhh what happened to Nijisanji then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333891
This is david beckham to la galaxy if anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333891
>>27334054
>>27334088
>>27334109
>>27334125
>Soccer
Absolute state of eurohour

[Anonymous No.]

>kson will poach every holo graduates to join vshojo
Bros i cant live with this

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333891
>>27333955
>>27334054
>>27334109
>>27334183
>>27334191
Speak a normal language please

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334237
It's called football, you dumb hand egg fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334239
If a holo graduates because she want to join vshojo i would support them in doing so, if they even entertain that thought i would not like to have them in hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334255
it's like when big bubba gave cletus his old pickup truck

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334237
>>27334255
footy runs /sp/ and /#/ is basically an /sp/ outpost

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334239
meh

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>>27334239
any holo graduate is dead to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334189

graduate lol

[Anonymous No.]

The vshojo whores should switch to youtube so I can shitpost about numbers. Not even this thread cares about twitch numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334404
This thread can easily be called "the crossroads" of /vt/" and "the crossroads of 4chan" at the same time, given the overlaps it brings
I'm sure lots of fags already recognized each other post style from other boards (like /pol/) and stay quiet because this is the "treehouse", the place where people come to rest from the other boards and sites

[Anonymous No.]

I, for one, I'm interested in kson numbers in Vshoujo. It would be at least interesting to watch them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334525
You mean watch react streams?

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>All the vshojo thing did is kick the rotting plank where all the twitter holo antis hide under, have them run all over the catalog claiming idolshit is evil and Rushia got fired for a boyfriend. After about 12 hours they will forget it happened for some other twitter yab and mike/kson might incline to the bottom of the 10k list if they are lucky and dont get lazy

ok

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>>27334525
She'll get like 20k on her re-re-debut, 8k for a month after that and then she'll be back to her 3k view shitter status after that.

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>>27334494
Im interested to see if kson can bring his yt crowd to twitch and if the vshojo audience will also jump to her yt streams
>>27334525
Sam im interested if they can actually try to compete with isegye on that front

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>>27334596
?
Where do you think you are? Who the fuck is actually watching streams here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334494
They will if Isegye creates an EN or JP branch

[Anonymous No.]

Since Vshoujo now is a "Jp branch" is it possible to get at least KSon and the other one listed in Vrabi? Would be interesting to see the breakdown of who ends up watching them.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll take Kson going corpo again if it stops all Holo/Vshojo collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334351
I hope your niji shitter graduate soon

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>>27334239
Coco never felt like a real Hololive member in terms of what she used to do, she didn't like the idolshit, taking dancing lessons or singing. It's impossible for any member that likes that kind of things to graduate to join Vshojo (Not like the others would do it anyway).
I don't like 2D whores or 3D whores, so if any of the members wants to graduate because she wants to behave like a whore, I'm fine with it

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>>27334597
>Rushia got fired for a boyfriend
I look forward to the olympian mental gymnastics from vshojofags when she starts streaming.

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>>27334735
only if they stream in yt, the key one seems to only have a twitch channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>27329522
>>27329550
I don't come to these threads since they seem pretty gay and retarded
But Cowmea and Sena love

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334783
I'm a holofag with zero tolerance for vshojo bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

This is honestly kinda sad...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334798
>W-well our incel GFE fans are based yours are evil!

That's already what they do anyways, only the brain damaged watch them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27333994
Creative freedom?

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>>27334755
I want Vshojo ID

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>>27334525
>>27334026
>>27334641
>>2733402
Yeah cause she has an team. Kson biggest weakness was people wanted to see the crazy wacky hijinks of hololive girls and she could not do that by her self and an couple 2 views. But here she depending on the members of vshojo japan kson will be able to shine bright and show her strengths. For example let's say one member rushia that already insanely strong line up that people care more about. Image more big japan stars join like macato asmr that three strong people already. Plus kson has her gang of close of indie followers she could recruit tashi to be an full member of the team translating. Hololive and Nijisanji better watch out because depending on the rest of the vshojo japan line up they could be in trouble. Cause Vshojo want an piece of the japan market and they chose the member that brought hololive en to life kson at full strength is an force man people these days don't remember but coco at her peak was an unstoppable force.

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>>27334889
Nijireddit is a dead town...

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>>27334798
>Hololive bad
>GFE bad
>Rushia bad
>Rushia may join Vshojo
>HAHAHA HOLOFAGS, we love Rushia, she's the best

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>>27334930
so its actual mental illness

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>>27334889
So this is why nijiniggers shill on the hololive sub instead

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>>27331508
You expect Menhera Prime to believe in the same people who drove out the dragon? Who "accidentally" modded antis and not cleaning up nor apologizing? Peak retarded

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>>27334237
It's football you double decker burger

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>>27334826
>I don't come to these threads since they seem pretty gay and retarded
>But Cowmea and Sena love
kek, that's the allure of the OP pics. ENjoy your stay

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334798
>miguels tweet about wanting to date overseas men
>will supposedly join vshojo where theres a huge chance she will collab with overseas males
kek i wonder how her whales will spin this one

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334889
nijidrones don't care about their livers, they only care about the company like the good bootlickers they are

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>>27335050
Imagine if she collabs with Connor. I think the mike generals would commit suicide.

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>>27334889
such a fucking shame since apparently he was the equivalent of mio in nijisanji

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>>27334955
lmao. kson can't "shine". she's a boring e-whore like shylily. she should just stick to reacting to shitty meme compilations on twitch.

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>>27335107
>Rushia giggling while talking to Connor with Kson translating

oh imagine the seethe, the threads ahhh

[Anonymous No.]

>>27331700
rrat time:
KEKSON joined vshojo to isolate Niji. Miguel was brought in because she's a dumb saviorfag. Probably compromised a lot of pay for it too.

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>>27334889
Jesus that's depressing.

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>>27334755
Assuming mikecat is the kanata knockoff, it does create a weird dynamic. I can see Hololive straight out banning all future VShojo collabs while NijiEN no longer collabs with them either because of their main demo being chinks who still seem butt hurt about the taiwan thing. So this whole thing would essentialy create 3 distinct walled gardens. One thing I'll say though is that Kson does need to address her reasons for joining VShoujo assuming that she still cares about making sure that hololive isn't damaged in anyway.

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>>27334239
Look at all the Holos who graduated or were fired. All mentally ill. Hololive doesn't want them anyway. Imagine not being able to act professionally at your job which consists of playing video games and singing.

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Is it actually Michael or not?

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>>27335316
I hope so. That'd mean Cover has to ban vshojo collabs now

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335316
Just listen to her voice. It's obviously her and I don't see how anyone can think differently.

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>>27335356
>Coco getting vshojo collabs banned from holo

I kneel dragon savior.

[Anonymous No.]

Rushia....

>Why you don't choose vspo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335316
Mike = No Vshojo collab
It's a win-win
Especially if Mike went kaboom during her time at Vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335356
I would kneel.

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>>27335316
Yes, that voice is instantly recognizable.

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>>27334955
vshojo cant even win on twitch against a hololive clone
what makes you think they can even compete with nijisanji let alone hololive?

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>>27334889
It’s Mayuzumi, he’s completely irrelevant to NijiEN fans, what did you expect? His content hard filters them.

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>>27335396
>Just listen to her voice. It's obviously her and I don't see how anyone can think differently.
Kson lore and "met person who lost memory" give credence to that as well

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>>27335356
once again she became savior doing things in the backstage, and chink hate this savior kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335316
actually sounds like mike and it would give a good reason as to why she did that legal announcement some days ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335444
It's a matter of when since there are no tard wranglers in vshojo for miguel gato.

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>>27334786
>she didn't like the idolshit, taking dancing lessons or singing.


You don't even watch kson 3d live.

[Anonymous No.]

People are seething and doomposting too much for a 3-4k streamer that has completely been forgotten and whose actual audicence isn't even the same from her former company

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335572
hopefully kson tardwrangles miguel

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive has no choice but to allow collabs their fans will backstab cover if they suddenly block vshojo collabs. Hololive won't last in their stone wall garden much longer. While everybody else is out having fun plus it's vshojo japan not english. All it takes is one member of vshojo complaing about being blocked by hololive and covercrop done for.

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>>27335572
Kson is supposed to be the leader and tard wrangler of the JP branch.

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>>27334955
Coco' main strength in Holo was that she was the loud mouthed Yankee of the group. She shines because she's able to offer a contrast to Hololive's identity. It's one of the reasons why when she went indie she didn't really get the same level of success. Not to mention each holo helped her shine too. Think of how Shaw blends with chuck, kenny and Ernie and compare it to the tues group with dwade and candace.

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>>27335572
Vshoujo does have managers they just have less implicit authority than a company that owns your assets. They're more like personal assistants, so how much you listen to them is up to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335680
Internkun ganbare

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335620
It's not one but both of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335615
But I did? And if you really think that you are completely clueless, don't try to rewrite history

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335680
They can just keep letting people go on Mouse's show and block everything else, which they basically do now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335465
but its also easy to imitate

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335694
>Think of how Shaw blends with chuck, kenny and Ernie and compare it to the tues group with dwade and candace.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335694
You lost me with that comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335694
i dont know what your comparison is anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335680
>complaining about your birthright to collab with someone else
thats called begging, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335629
Good luck with that. The fact that Rushia lasted as long as she did, especially that her menhera tendencies have been displayed to the world now, is a small miracle onto itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335694
>she's able to offer a contrast to Hololive's identity
So maybe should hire a bunch of seiso queens

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335840
>>27335889
>>27335929

Entered all those names into google and got this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_the_NBA

Do we have a basketball-american among us?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335694
Don't worry, anon. I understood the reference.

[Anonymous No.]

what if
what if they hired miguel to tardwrangle kson instead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27331779
A currency of Chads

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335961
if kson moves in with miguel then yeah she might be able to wrangle her better

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335840
>>27335889
>>27335929
If you haven't watched the tuesday edition of Inside the NBA with Shaw, Candace Parker, Dwade, and that one ernie knockoff than I'm happy for you and hope you never have to. Their chemistry is absolute shit. None of them is willing to serve as the butt of jokes like Chuck since they're all wanting to always look cool and shit. >Shaw just comes off as Kendrick Perkins lite because he doesn't have enough chemistry with any of them.

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>>27336250
i wouldnt wish that to even my worse enemies

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336349
thats the only logical way i could see her wrangling miguel unless they want history to repeat itself

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336250
Kanata would break miguel herself if that happens. Kanata is another breed of menhera

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336250
She just moved into a new place with Kanata a few months ago, why would she move again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336250
kson is gonna burn out trying to tard wrangle her, truly the jesus of vtubing

[Anonymous No.]

>>27334105
Hakushika Iori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335565
>Tried to lowkey blame it on Cover to shill her new persona
>Cover BTFO her
>Does not mention Cover since then
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335740
Pfffff
Their managers are absolute retarded

[Anonymous No.]

You know everyplace outside of here is hype about her joining vshojo. Check the YouTube comments or twitter. People are even seething at covercrop for letting such an strong talent go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336257
uh sure, i agree

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336720
Sure thing, Niji-kun

[Anonymous No.]

>>27335694
>Coco' main strength in Holo was that she was the loud mouthed Yankee of the group.
Yep. Coco was Geri Halliwell of Hololive, the slutty loud mouthed one to create contrast

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336720
The numbers are low so no

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336720
>strong talent
lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336720
i mean yeah thats a given since die hard tatsunokos and fandeads will always cheer for them
the question is how theyre gonna do the balancing act between filtering out vshojojp from vshojoen

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336720
>People are even seething at covercrop for letting such an strong talent go.
>The same people who didn't even care to watch her streams when she was an indie post Hololive
Intern-kun...you are just picking the leftovers

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336250
She had to take a vacation after wrangling her for a while (granted she said she wasn't in a good mental state herself but still) because Michael exhausted her so much. Moving in with her would probably kill her eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27331700
Hilariously enough there is a non-zero chance Kson collabs with NijiEN boys.
>she's down for collabs with males
>vshojo (IM) collabs with NijiEN all the time
>no language barrier
I think there's no way NijiEN's management let's it happen tho. The eventual backlash is way too obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336720
Those people are the same that always shit on Hololive, now that they get something from Hololive apparently it's the best thing ever been

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336720
Hey Noor how have you been? Have you had enough sleep? Have you eaten? Take better care of yourself. xoxo

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336250
won't happen I guess, gorilla recently moves with kson, and I don't think mike have the courage to disturb the gorilla

[Anonymous No.]

Mr Koro still going, aaahhhh feels like home:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZLCccAYTO8

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336918
>I think there's no way NijiEN's management let's it happen tho
It would be more disastrous than the parasocial debacle that lost them a lot of vox fujos and would basically make them the target of chinese pol
hell even now im betting vshojo is getting targeted by them so im betting theres gonna be less spam in fbk's chat and more spam in vshojos

[Anonymous No.]

>strong talent
I believe even kson would reject that label

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336918
Are any of them stupid enough to want to do that? I get that the chink fujos aren't the same demographic as the dudes who harassed Coco/Fubuki but that's still playing with fire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336918
Yeah, but if anybody thinks that collabing with NijiEn males would be harmful for Hololive, they are delusional af, if anything that would make the last tatsunokos come back home and embrace the Holobox again

[Anonymous No.]

>>27337088
go to sleep mr koro...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336720
Anon literally none of the people posting that shit watch hololive
If people were hyped to watch her in a non-hololive setting they would have been doing so for a year already

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336720
>the vshojo schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>27337221
no

[Anonymous No.]

Youtube will be dominated by Hololive and Twitch will be dominated by ex-holos. Is this the future you wanted?

[Anonymous No.]

My favorite part of this thread is the /sp/ overlap. One moment the thread is talking about the effects of vshojo signing kson, the next there's someone making Inside the NBA comparisons while another uses Messi as another point. Last thread we had KD and Kyrie analogies brought up as well

This thread is fucking insane

[Anonymous No.]

>>27337446
>Twitch will be dominated by ex-holos
lmao they have to defeat isegye first

[Anonymous No.]

>>27337446
Vshitshow cant even beat a korean start up

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336918
Didn't Nina get smacked for mentioning Coco before? I recall it was during her first russian stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27336720
Strong or problematic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27337457
And it's fun as hell to speculate on both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27337446
koreans are running rings around vshitshow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27337171
It'd be weirder if they did not interact with Kson now since she joined the company where the parties interact with often. It'll be the LGTV+ vs china and not the fujos in this case.