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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>66,433: Subaru (Hololive)>64,120: Marine (Hololive)>62,797: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)>58,571: Salome (Nijisanji)>43,202: Salome (Nijisanji)>39,492: Pekora (Hololive)>31,571: Ars (Nijisanji)>28,799: Subaru (Hololive)>21,988: Ina (Hololive)>20,406: Shion (Hololive)>19,326: Korone (Hololive)>15,695: Uki (Nijisanji)>15,034: Nerumero (Indie)>13,910: Fubuki (Hololive)>13,892: Asumi (VSPO)>13,598: Kobo (Hololive)>11,738: Koyori (Hololive)>11,655: Vox (Nijisanji)>11,528: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>11,332: Mysta (Nijisanji)>11,194: Luca (Nijisanji)>10,739: Chihiro (Nijisanji)>10,737: Kanae (Nijisanji)
My Azki lewds... I'LL NEVER FORGIVE THE JAPANESE, FUCK MAHJONG
>REMINDER
60k with Kanae pic on the screen, 32 min in. Will easily beat last years by much.100k maybe when the heavy hitters are playing? I don't think they're even playing yet
everyones playing their cards now from small players to vsj. does Hololive have a card in their sleeve for this stacked July ?
>>27358956I have a feeling that she underestimated how hard it was to make it as an indie. She literally had the best starting point to launch herself but even that initial hype fell off. If she continues to stagnate or even fail in VShoujo, that would only signal to the rest of the girls that the world outside the box isn't that great and I'm not really sure I'd like that since that'll only give management an even bigger hammer to smack down dissent.
>>27359147They not.
>>27359460>JULY 2022 GOLD1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - Holocure2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday Festival>PER COMPANY2x: Hololive>PER STREAMER1x: Miko, Subaru>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY120x: Hololive53x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte2x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.
>>27358945The JKbrat would the breakout star for the whole corpo once they merged! I BELIB!!!
>>27359147That place looks like it could only fit another Mori or two, kinda packed.
>>27359469>61KYeah, that's a pretty tall order for RedBeans
>>27358826>>27359047Dokdo Islands is still a salty issue for koreans. Its basically the korean version of Falkland
>>27359147This was at AX? What the fuck? That's the biggest con in the country, literally 100k+ attendees. They literally turned down people at the gate because they were over capacity at the Los Angeles Convention Center, how the fuck did they not fill a room at AX? I could understand that they had empty seats when they were at OffKai because it was a literal who con, but this is weird. Did they limit the amount of attendees or something?
>>27359520Didn't she complain about being fleece on merch production?
>>27359497Who knows?With the success of HOTDROPING Holox on everyone, I suspect Cover is planning on doing the same with EN3 and has thus opted for complete fucking radio silence on their existence.
>>27359476Why are you acting surprised by that number? At the end of it, it's gonna be Salome, Masaru, Sango, Ryushen, Yashiro who would be the top crossover chatters. I wonder where is retention anon, I wouldve want him to conduct an experiment between those 5 and their big streams in June to see if the crossover is big using chat archives.
>>27359587That's karma for shitting middle management
>>27359587Yes, that is the most common thing that gets brought up when it comes to her initial attempts at merch, how she got fucked on costs because she didn't know how to do things initially.
>>27359587I guess being in a corpo ain't that bad, huh?
>>27359572It would've been packed, but people really wanted to get that Gura acrylic stand and didn't want to lose their place in line.
>>27359370June superchats>>27236137 :: Hololive>>27236180 :: Nijisanji>>2723622 :: Indie/Other>>27226940 :: NijiEN girls
>>27359520>If she continues to stagnate or even fail in VShoujoWith the right talents she could actually flourish but with miguel cato and possibly aloe in their ranks im very skeptical about any kind of incline especially if kson cant tardwrangle miguel. Not to mention theyre gonna be the target of the wolf warriors and possibly miguels anti's who were gachikois
Just to temper people expectations here are AZKi Top 10 streams>39931 :: 2022-04-14 :: 【逆凸】AZKiはホロメンと仲良くなりたい!!!>30712 :: 2021-07-03 :: 【3D LIVE】#AZKi超生誕祭2021 ゲスト:角巻わため/桃鈴ねね>27572 :: 2022-04-02 :: ホロライブへ移籍しました!>23086 :: 2022-05-19 :: 【歌枠】今宵は #わたあず Night Fever !!【 AZKi / 角巻わため】>18106 :: 2021-02-23 :: 【AZKi 3rd衣装】新衣装お披露目LIVE -はじめまして、新しい私- #AZKi新衣装>17697 :: 2021-11-14 :: 【#AZKi3周年】3rd Anniversary Live Over Light【新曲初公開も!?】>15284 :: 2021-06-05 :: 【歌枠】ガンダムSEED/SEED DESTINY縛り!Singing Stream【#あずきんち】>15125 :: 2021-01-31 :: 【Minecraft】初めてのマイクラ with そらちゃん!ホロ鯖探検するかも!?【#あずきんち】>14820 :: 2020-11-20 :: #音楽を止めるな2最終日 -Vtuber楽曲MV48時間ノンストップ放送->14157 :: 2022-06-16 :: 【歌枠】突然、歌います。Singing Stream【ホロライブ / AZKi】She has a giant and a historical talisman at her side but that can only push her so highIF she beats her 40k top it will be kneel worthy but not gold worthy
>>27359476Graduation announcement buff. They trended on twitter yesterday so now they're doing an event, it will pull in more tourists Really disgusting behavior from Nijisanji
>>27359520Kson managed to only move over her hardcore base that she built up in Hololive. She gets tourists for her meme review content and reaction videos but when she does normal content she falls back down to 2-3k.It's why I don't really get the hype behind her joining VshojoJP as a huge thing (other than to shit on Hololive) cause she's pretty much a has-been at this point.Hope she got a good chunk of that $11 million though cause it's obvious they need her for legitimacy.
>>2735972660k is my prediction80k is my hope
>>27359706I.....You know what, this is too funny for me to berate you for being a shitposting faggot for. Carry on.
>>27359706Any pics of the AX holo booth? Some anon said that shit was so crowded that they inadvertantly turned on a fire alarm by accident but not sure if that was real though.
>>27359572>literally 100k+ attendeesAt least half of those people came for hololive
>>27359370June superchats>>27236137 :: Hololive>>27236180 :: Nijisanji>>27236227 :: Indie/Other>>27226940 :: NijiEN girls
>>27359741>To shit on HololiveThat's all the rage right now anon.
>>27359723Don't forget Vshojo's current fandom which will have trouble meshing with mike the cat's chuubing style.
Azki will not even win the hololive gold, it's going to Marine and Shion.
>>27359620Just realized it is split POV, I don't know anymore, 100k seems a little tall
>>27359808A thread yesterday showed how goddamn LONG the line to the Hololive booth was, that thing snaked FAR.
>>27359741>It's why I don't really get the hype behind her joining VshojoJP as a huge thingShe unironically could be a decent manager especially with her experience and her connections might help them in the jp market since vshojo actually needs someone well known to establish a foothold and kson was the only free agent out there that could work with their style.But I would not get my hopes up on more creativity on her part though
>>27359520She is in vs. They have NOTHING to offer her. In fact VS gets more without her just being there than her working her ass off for them
>>27359911She has a freak out on twitter recently when she found out someone invited her to a collab only to use her for clout apparently.
>>27359741>other than to shit on HololiveEither anti'd holo or copying their style. That's the current vtuber meta
>>27359914It has the Shion's channel debuff, it will be huge, but not as high as it could be
>>27359327100k is a stretch, I'm thinking 82k
So gold for today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_-wf_Cj5ZA
>>27359864Lmao, you joke but I wouldn't doubt it honestly. I think that AX digital con panel for HoloEN had like 220k CCV last year even.
Look at this beautiful graph.Perfect curve, natural incline. Really makes you wonder why certain other Niji graphs don't look like this.
>>27359620>>27359967And it just hit a local peak too.
>>27359967SLIP??
is there a ranking list for niji bili follower?
>>27359147it is 2nd most popular, but the passion in their viewers is low. They aren''t going to go out of their way to attend a con or buy merch for the most part, unlike holofans.
>>27360039>>27360041Beautiful graph
>>27360033I mean vtuber = hololive for the rest of the world outside of japan
>>27360041>>27360044Anons....AZKi is not getting more than 40-50k, even with Suisei as a guest. Please temper your expectations.
>>27360053>bilikek, anon, plz. People are hard pressed to touch Twitch numbers, let alone b2 magic underwear numbers
>>27360030nvm just realized Azki
>>27360014She should be prepared herself for that. She'll get much more of those types when she joins VShojo
>>27360019>shion channel debuffwhat debuff? Marine is always able to attract her fanbase in those duo collab.
>>27359587almost fleeced, she went to a different person
>>27359911>Don't forget Vshojo's current fandomoh yeah they are huge on the anti loli thing right? I wonder how that would work on the jp side of the branch
>>27359975Coco's creativity started and ended on Asacoco and meme reviews, both variants of react content with a twist.
Its okay holobros... cant win em all...
One Step At a Time is IRyS' best english song so far and it only has a combined 60k listens between Youtube topic and Spotify.
>>27360132Azki isn't beating this
>>27360117See >>27359726 for the post urging for the same temperance.Stranger things happened recently tho so the horse race is still on until the second horse crosses the line
>>27359975You cant be a manager and a streamer. Sooner or later one will get in the way of the other
>>27360041>60kThis is a weak number. Pretty much slip territory.
>>27360117Just needs some shilling desu, some twitter pushing and a good funnel can raise the bar.
>>27360117Azk is getting 100kFirst event buff
>>27360132nah Azki isnt beating this, im curious about her holobox numbers though
>Anycolor going IPO, was injected millions, Salome arc, new idol-ish unit>VShojo getting Kson or might possibly Miguel, got $11M in investments, may open up a 3D studio in Japan>Brave group acquired VSPO, VSPO got tuna, asumi got a new Calli rework that's far different than her old model>Versen has some new chuubasDespite every efforts to try and beat Hololive, their foothold in industry is super strong. Hololive had just been playing passively, the passive part is that they've sent watamage and miomage to do the dirty job.
>>27360132>AzkiDoubt. Maybe podium.
>>27360183Who?
>>27360223She could if she invited KAF as a surprise guest
>>27360214The stream will still go for a couple of hours, this may beat 85k on the progression of the tournament
>>27359975>Free agent Fucking hell, I feel like I'm in /nba/ right now (which I am, I have the thread open in another tab). But yeah, this move can either be the equivalent of CP3 to the Suns or westbrick to the Lakers. There is no in between.
>>27360014Man, if only Rushia was not retarded, she could've kept enjoying her life...
>>27360207I mean that was what she always wanted back then so i want to see how good she is at doing it
>>27360117You never know, there's been a lot of new peaks this year for JP.
>>27360039How's their fan overlap with Salome?
>>27360242>Versen has some new chuubassource? cause as far as i know versen is stopping at 1 gen
>>27360257who?
>>27359911How much unit cohesion or shared culture does Vshojo even have? Seems like most of them just do whatever they feel like.
>>27360302Anon. I'm already putting AZKi ahead of ALL of her previous peaks by saying 40-50k. Heck, 50k would already be 20k BETTER than last year. >>27359726
Twitch Audiences =/= Youtube AudiencesVshoujo and Hololive aren't competing.
>>27360242Did you call me?
>>27360242>Anycolor going IPO, was injected millionsAnonchama...
>>27360117Roboco can pull over 50k with a 3D live, she has easily one of the weakest holobox effects and is not known for her music so if she can do it AZKi can get over 50k too. Don't misunderstand though I love Roboco.
>>27360039salome's were mostly fine and you still screamed bots
I wish we had an anon reporting directly from AX like the Acen guy. Numberfagging conventions is untapped potential and fun to see how vtuber influence IRL.
>>27360410Anycolor made less money off their IPO than Sykkuno was bought for by youtube
>>27360014Man. See. this is the world you made for yourself m-gato. This is the world outside the box, for one who REALLY needed it.
>>27360033>220kI.... Im pretty sure this is a shitpost, but people have believe worse. You probably didn't mean to add that 0 right?
>>27360242Hololive reminds me of this chair standing still in the middle of a tornado that is ripping trees and buildingshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XpcG2EtJ_8It looks brittle but it is made of a much stronger material than people think
>>27360274Let it go, anon. Her manager and her genmates both told her to calm down and wait. She's a lost cause.
>>27360433Okay, 50k is definitely possible, but her beating this mahjong event when they actually hit the climax does seem unlikely in my books.
>>27360183It's Irys only english song
>>27360033>220ksource? I dont remember it being that high
>>27359594eh... thats great for a single timezone, but bad Idea for EN, they should give at least a few days notice and have it scheduled for the weekend if they're debuting them all at once.
>>27360167it's fine would have been nice to get an azki win though
>>27360522The Mahjong even is split PoV. The numbers will get divided across multiple people
>>27360378They had a Vei/IronMouse/Nyanners clique going on, but then Nyanners got a bf and practically quit streaming in favor of becoming his tradwife. After that it seems they are all kinda just there doing their own thing.
>>27360394Twitch is also fickle in the sense that viewers there are loyal to the platform and its culture rather than to the streamers. If a twitch streamer stops playing to the meta or doesn't stream often enough they lose everything.
>>27359975I've been hearing that kson has a large connection but to what actually? I mean mori has like the underground nip rap scene stretching to clubs, other rap groups, and big names producers; Marine and FBK has their VA circle with big names VAs; Mel and RBC are very 2views friendly; Towa has the FPS circles and big name pros; Azki has the vsinger circle; Sora has the old guards circles; etc. What kinda connection kson has that could possibly elevate VSjp?
>>27360566they had 80k last year and they might have some buff due to that graduation announcement yesterday
>>27359914yea, don't think its holo gold today, the channels are too weak for the chakra energy to flow through
>>27360361Theyre gonna debut 6 more chuubas this month or this week iirc
>>27360433Roboco had a much stronger "supporting cast" than just Sora and Suisei
>>27360522I'm saying OVER 50k is possible. And I wasn't talking about beating the mahjong tournament, just stream performance in isolation.
>>27360557falseflag or typed an extra 2
>>27360474>>27360557Admittedly it was some kind of weird Bilibili-tier streaming site, but I did unfortunately pay for it and watch it live and can attest that it did display that many viewers. >>6044602
>>27360641Aren't the new debuts under a different title? VERSEn is not an agency.
>>27359975>She unironically could be a decent manager especially with her experience and her connections might help them in the jp marketWhich connections in teh JP market anon. Again, she *almost* got fleeced on a merch deal, that's the extent of her connections.It is not compatible to imagine she is joining a corpo because she failed to manage one (1) streamer (herself) because it is too much work and, at the same time, that she will be managing two for starters, with one of them being one fired for not being manageable.
>>27360593To be frank, any connections at all is more than Vshoujo has, so it's still a boost to them
>>27360641are you talking about versen or sony in general? if its versen then source? cause i havent seen any announcement like that from them
>>27360371Japan's #1 Vsinger
>>27359726i just want some horse race if possible, the dopamine rush...
>>27360593PJK, so connection to hololive
>>27360767>Japan's #1 VsingerBut that's Ado
azki will 100% get above 50kher highest this year was a simple totsumachi and that neared 40k, this is basically that + a singing 3D live birthday buff
Do t forget Shion Marine offcollab
>>27360512the most aerodynamic chair I've ever seen
>>27360593>What kinda connection kson has that could possibly elevate VSjp?not that much but its better than what connections they would have had if they gotten anyone else
>>27360762>>27360730Sony as a company I guess, not versen
>>27360838That's a ruse, it is more likely than not one of those cast iron chairs, just made in the same model of the plastic ones.That's the analogy, Hololive seems much weaker than it really is because of what it is made of.
With kson joining an american corpo, I wonder if the bugs will now switch from fubuki to kson and if holo will finally be uncensored from bilibili.
>>27360815Ado isn't a vsinger, she's something else at this point. A regular professional singer
Is Vshojo retarded enough to hire Michael?
>>27360460Reminder that she was going to get a fat $841k paycheck but she decided to kill her career and Cover cancelled the merch sales.
>>27360815Anemachi can still be a surprise guest
>>27360593If nothing else, she brings legitimacy to their group. I believe she also has some connections with Sega. But yeah, she seriously needs to be on top of her game if she wants to make VSJp a real contender. She'd have been better off if she had someone from HoloJPs scouting team instead of Mike at though.
>>27360725This, I can also attest that the panel moderator was shit and that more than half the audience left when the panel ended.
>>27360918>>27360815Ado is not a Vsinger, she is a one piece character
>>27360956yes I remember that most uninterested sounding woman who rushed the panel, but I don't remember it being anywhere near 220k viewers.
>>27360861Oh if thats the case im not surprised since theyre gonna give riku a run for his money since theyre supposedly planning to debut 50 chuubas this year
>>27360991Ado is shank's daughter
>>27360183It isn't shilled much.
>>27360725It was livestreamed on fucking Vimeo.I remember this cause they literally had the link to the stream in the source code.
How is kson sub count going? It's bleeding or gaining subs?
>>27361036
>>27360912>and if holo will finally be uncensored from bilibili.no
>>27360912>if holo will finally be uncensored from bilibililollmao
>>27360912>I wonder if the bugs will now switch from fubuki to ksonthey might seeing as kson joining a corpo is a hot topic and im sure the wolf warriors are preparing for it>holo will finally be uncensored from bilibili.no
>>27360912Chinks will NEVER go back on their previous actions. It's a shameful act that will cause them to lose face.
>>27361059Was it? Lmao, I just knew it wasn't Twitch or YouTube so I didn't know what the hell they were using on the backend.>>27361012No, it definitely had over 200k viewers at some point, I'm going to try and dig in my screenshots folder to see if I took a screenshot of it but I might not have.
>>27360912Heat death of the universe will happen first
>>27360725God I love shitty proprietary livestream media players for rare events.
>>27360940>segaReplaced with korone
>>27361179That only works in Wuxia. If Cover kowtows to them 6 times, promises to build HoloCN under bili2 management, gives 75% of the profits to Bili2 and promises collabs every week then China might spare a glance and forgive Cover for their wrongdoings but if not, then Cover will never touch China again.
>>27361148Man, will VShojo be able to survive that level of harassments?I'm sure they got a lot of hate already, but still ...
>>27361148
>>27361331Thats what im interested the most in this whole happening honestlyAnd if theyre actually bringing in aloe and if that is actually rushia then aloe and rushias antis are gonna join in the fray as well
>>27361312>only 75%Damn that's probably better than what they had when they were still operating in China.
>>27360273>In this fall... this is very tough... in this fall I'm going to take my talents to San Francisco and join Vshojo JP.
>>27361404translate, chinkbro
>>27361077No sub bleed from what I can see, she's still at that 1.21m she was from a few days ago. I don't think she'll bleed subs significantly, the amount of people that would bother to unsub from her over this are small, fanatical, and as a whole, inconsequential from a numbers standpoint. They're going to be VOCAL though and shit up places online, both /here/ and the japanese imageboards though. >>27360912AHAHAHAHAHAHAYea no, at this point they're going to be in it until they can get Fubuki to graduate, which frankly isn't happening any time soon.
Man.. this whole VSjp thing really feels like a /here/meme. Who would've thought that akatsuki holograduate edit actually become real kek
>>27361404translate it zhang
>>27361404is that from china pol? what are they saying?
so no more genshin sponsorship for Vshojo?
>>27361404Oh great, they're digging up Veibae's comments on TW? Lovely. Have fun vshojo, getting infested is a nasty situation.
>>27361531>they're digging up Veibae's comments on TWWait, what?
>>27361580Veibae made pro TW comments in the past I'm guessing.
>>27361404I don't read mainland taiwanese
>>27361531Welp, it's ogre
>>27361404Here is the poorly OCRd translated version
>>27361404>veibae tw commentlooks like the bug bots are gonna be targeting someone new
So VShojo is in for some interesting times but how's Mahjong doing right now?
>>27361580Anon, those bits are in english such that I don't even fucking NEED to read chinese to know exactly what they're talking about.
>>27361515Vshoujo was never sponsorship friendly. Honestly, their entire business strategy seems to be to hope anti-idolfags will be willing to buy their shit out of spite for Hololive specifically
>>27361622Ah, so it's about the Vshojo chinese translator
>>27361622kek, are they ragging that Veibae also did say Taiwan?I wonder of VShojo girls did any other transgressions like these
>>27361404>>27361531uh ohhave fun with the chinkoids sperging i guess lmao
>>27360912Chinese never go back on anything unless forced by some external factor. Just look at their stupid zero-Covid plan for example, which they will never abandon despite it obviously being unworkable now because that means admitting they were wrong.
>>27361671>how's Mahjong doing right now?Stalled under 70k, likely to shoot up at the end
>>27361622this makes my head hurt.
>>27361835no fucking way Azki beats this
>>27361671Stalled at 65k
>>27361873Believe in Holobox
>>27361873AZKi with Suisei and Sora MIGHT be able to.Its getting decently advertised as well.
>>27361835how's the nijiEN doing, winning? i don't know anything about mahjong.
Unfortunately all I have is screenshots of posts I took about the 220k. Maybe you'll be able to find a screenshot in one of the threads at the time.>>6041565>>6042104
>>27361873Believe in Marine Shion
>>27361622It seems to be talking about the translator and why he quit also>you cant gaurantee that sister huang wont explode again rightKek even the chinks are betting on rushia to explode
>>27361932I remember those too but>paying for a con livestream
IRyS 10k from the getgo
>>27361917The shitposting tonight is gonna be something
>>27361917They need to shill it harder and receive a funnel for it to hope to win gold
>>27361835How many hours is it gonna go on for?
manm Irys blew her chance to climb
>>27361907Azki does not pull in numbers. Sora gets better numbers than her and when she had a concert with Azki and Suisei it barely hit 50k.
>>27361978I want to fuck Irys
>>27362042Azki is sexy, she might be able to pull some sex shenanigans
>>273620026-7 hrs
>>27362042Fucking hell Sora loses to Roboco when it comes to 3D live peaks? Yagoo save your damn idol.
>>27361835So, if this wins the tally, which niji is going to get horny posts? All of them?
>>27360912It would be easier if you know, Fubuki just graduated. Then the bots can finally switch to kson and leave us alone.
>>27362042Being a dedicated vsinger really seems to be a curse. Might as well just be a regular holo that focuses on music.
>>27360912anon, the chinks particularly admitted that the only reason they went ape was to shit on hololive and how they wanted to "completely destroy them"they literally don't care about kson
>>27362089shes ugly as fuck bro
>27362177
Holy shit
>>27362177>us
>>27362171anyone in the pic i guesswhen mori won with the offcollab she barely got any lewds lmao
>>27361515didn't the publishers of genshin wanted to leave china to singapore or something like that? devs are weebs
>>27362247Biggest twitch vtuber, how can Nijisanji and Hololive ever recover?
>>27362247Is that really XQC? Looks weird when it's not from his default webcam angle.
>>27361728>>27361752>>27361847>>27361954Theyre talking about the translator and the reason why he quit, some people are talking about rushia and her going menhera again, some people are bringing up veibeis pro taiwan stance and some people are saying that kson is the one who bears the original sin and if they dont want the chinese to be divided again theyre gonna have to can cocoits basically the start of taiwan v2.0
>>27362276What, she got quite a few anon, but they were across two threads.
>>27362288one of the top guys of mohoyo is literally in the CCP.
>>27362137>Fucking hell Sora loses to Roboco when it comes to 3D live peaks? Yagoo save your damn idol.IT's a matter of timing, they both are increasing their peaks and Roboco is currently beating Sora by under 2k on streams separated by a week or so
>>27362288They're already part of CCP anon, they can't escape
>>27362247my western like culture...
>>27362288Well, unfortunately someone in the genshin management is a member of the CCP party, and also I think you're referring to Azur lane
>>27360041What is this? Why is Elira in it?
>>27362171>Gundou, Rion and Lain lewdsMY DICK
>>27362288The CCP forcibly took over the board of directors.
>>27362373>some people are bringing up veibeis pro taiwan stanceThis one has potential. I wonder if china has their own JunsGang to stoke the fires on this
>>27362202they dont care about kson since she didnt manage to join any corporation because to them getting in a corporation = winning and so to them kson being an indie looked liked a beggar on the streets
LISTEN TO ME. The chinks are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, until you are graduated.
>>27362453So you're telling me all those whales are directly injecting money into the CCP partyL M A O
>>27362288They become full chink after genshin's success. They started to censor their characters.
>>27362421Mahjong tournament. Don't know about Elira but Shu is in it
>>27362453No no no, you don't understand.They made a CONVINCING ARGUMENT as to why they should join the CCP. There were no THREATS, nope, none at all!
>>27362247oh interesting lineup. also it never really hit me but there are a lot of asians in the fleshtubing scene huh
>>27362477>I wonder if china has their own JunsGang to stoke the fires on thisthe wolf warriors are unironically on top of this already since they actually visited the board 30 mins after the kson announcement
>>27362533Not reallyThey took some cutBut not that manyIt's the branding that makes the CCP want genshin to stay in China
>>27362561Vtubers?
>>27362499Yeah, a lot like beetles and other bugs. Once in a while they land a bite but for the most part they're innofensive and your agricultural pesticides kills them by the million without you even realizing
>>27360643Suisei shits on that group alone. The question is if AZKi managed to get "into the box" enough.
IRYS EN GOLD IKZ!
>>27362561isn't pokimane a seanigger?
>>27362627>pokimane>sykkuno>xqcliterally 3 vtubers in that screenshot
>>27362688no thats valkyrae
>>27362650Roboco's other 3D live from this year had Suisei in it you dunce.
>>27362650>Suisei shits on that group alone.Maybe in musical prowess but I don't think her audience beats the combined audience of the people in that thumb, which is the topic at hand
>>27362550Nah the censorship happened cause the AK and GI community had a war. AK community is full of wolf warriors and wumaos.
>>27360912They might eventually stop bothering Fubuki but bilibili kicked Hololive off for a reason, competitive advantage, and that has't changed.
>>27362561Still below ibai the numbergod
>>27362561Wow, ludwig manage to get xqc out of his room and did xqc accepted the boxing invitation??
>>27359975She could barely manage herself. The idea of her doing it for other people is laughable.
>>27362627by twitch standards? yes
IRyS let me IMPREGNANT YOU
Pokimane is basically one of the worst trendhopping pieces of shitShe makes fucking Mori look like an angel
>>27362740Fucking AKniggers ruined future skins for Genshin. No wonder I have unending hatred for furries
>>27362171The blonde retard
>>27362421mahjong, former jp eventen has en events, kr has kr events, id has id events, jp has international events because anything else would be racist
>>27362247>>27362561It's rare to see western streamers actually good at organize events
>>27362802Youtube offered her $50-60 to join but twitch supposedly doubled that amount to make her stay
>>27362561Koyori's debut moggs it tho.
>>27362247>Having all the big streamer + established show buff>Still lose to lapchan's 3D debutKek
>>27362906>$50WOW! She could almost fill half a tank of gas with that
>>27362906Jesus
>>27362906Fucking baffling anyone would pay that much for her ass
>>27362171amamya lewds...
>>27362931kek no
>>27362906S-sugoi
>>27362958million anon
>>27362906Cheap ass whore
>>27362960She's an influencer. Every zoomer knows about her.
>>27362948Ludwig is also unculled because of his contract with youtube. Really pathetic showing
>>27362962Pretty sure she debuted at 140k-150k
>>27362906I don't believe for a second that Twitch has 100 million dollars to spend on Pokimane or any individual streamer. Bezos is breathing down their neck telling them to be profitable.
>>27362743Yea. Thing is, they're in a bit of a rut after A-Soul has basically imploded. I'm curious what b2 is planning on doing.
>>27362990He's still correct.
>>27362727>links the one without suisei's attendance>talks about the one with her in itKeep your own shit straight, retard.
>>27363040you mean 180k
>>27362561it's fucking greyname bonanza
>>27362990No way Pokimane is worth a million dollars, let alone 50 or 100 million. She's basically irrelevant in the greater streaming sphere
>>27363046Why would that bald freak care?
>>27363053CCP-minded zhangs can't produce appealing entertaiment so they're fucked is what they are up to.
>>27363141Unf, that's a good number...
>>27363040That was lapchan
>>27363046Why do you think they lost ludwig and sykunno? they literally put all their money on pokimane
>>27363032She has a fucking terrible reputation and bad outreach. All she has is clout with other fleshstreamers
>>27363141i wonder if someone from the future gen 7 can break 200k with a debut
>>27363160supposedly but if they paid 30$ mil for sykunno im sure as hell theyre gonna pay twice as much for her
>>27363285She has a talent agency now, I think? She's grooming newbies.
>>27362733https://holo.poi.cat/stream/RDHf9Tmdvpk
>>27363053So who's the current top dog at b2?
>Aki 7.6k CCVShe has come a long way-- especially this year.
>>27362688Moroccan.
>https://twitchtracker.com/pokimane>Twitch will spend 100 million dollars on this bitch with numbers like theseIncomprehensible.
>>27362688p sure she's african
>>27363053Meanwhile their regular audience quietly went back to watching Hololive clips. HoloAlt trailer was very popular on b2.
>>27363395Sorta-kinda by default, I think its Virtuareal.
>>27363518Gura fucking moggs the shit out of her, damn. Where is Cover's $50 mil?
IRyS mic sounds nice, what effects does she have on? any audiophile here
>>27362961she's not sexy enough for lewds.
>>27363530Say.. can holo actually make a cameback on b2? I really want them to save yogiri..
>>27363518Twitch has to. They're only as relevant as their top streamers.What Youtube is essentially doing is trying to bleed out Twitch.
>>27363518pretty sure it's because they will lose more money from the news of her moving to YT than her actually doing it
>>27363416Just got back. Did chartanon already post June medians?>Aki 7.6kDamn, that's actually pretty fucking good. She's solidly in mid tier now if that's the case. Any particular reason for the incline though?
It looks like the chinks might be forming plans to harrass Vshojo members instead, starting with Vei according to Weibo comments.
>>27363518>15k averageYou're joking right? There's no way this is one of their biggest streamers
>>27363416she is having a great 2022
>>27363389Anon, for fuck sake, you realize there is a difference between hosting a live in your channel and guesting on some minor channel right?It was not just Suisei audience watching her live, it was the whole box audience.She won't be able to commandeer that audience to go to AZKi channel and watch it just because she's there
oh veibae bf is on the telly!
>>27363518them losing pokimane would unironically hurt their sjw image also since she's the most popular female flesh streamer on the site that they can parade with female empowerment
>>27363518It's the intangibles anon. Losing her would firmly put "Female fleshtuber streamer destination" as Youtube, with both Valk and Poki. Also, her connections to the OTV crew and whatnot means even more of the audience gets jerked over to YT livestreaming.
>>27363730 biggest twitch streamers are either xqc tyler 1 or some random spanish streamers that i don't know
>>27363720good
>>27363395VirtuaReal, they have been the most popular in there for years. Its the biggest project bilibili has. i say biggest because they have other vtuber projects, including one with sony
>>27363675That is 1000% never happening because B2.
>>27363827If they really cared why did they let that Dr Disrespect guy walk for basically free?
>>27363720you on the site too? some of them are also thinking of organizing a spam raid to kson as far as i can tell with google tl
>>27363720Idc what they do with vshoujo. I want to see if noor stops nijien from collabing with them.
>>27363395Anon, there is no point in asking that given that they basically killed their market. Turns out, making draconian rules will spook anyone that's not directly connected to them and basically kills your presence outside of your home market.
>>27360017or beating Nijisanji with FPS-centric like VSPO or Neo-PorteCaptcha : J0RKA
>>27363707>Just got back. Did chartanon already post June medians?>>27209392 :: Median, Top 50>>27211013 :: Median, 1k plus >>27211763 :: Median, Full>>27212290 :: Median, International>>27213620 :: True Average, full>>27214207 :: True Average, international >>27215004 :: True Average, per branch>>27215211 :: True Average, per company
>>27363720I wanna see how VShojo handles this. Could be a potential shitposting material.
>>27363940>If they really cared why did they let that Dr Disrespect guy walk for basically free?>>27363800
>>27363940Wasn't that guy involve in a scandal with cheating on his wife or something.
if they're trying to spam vshojo won't be affected much cause they actually have chat moderators.
>>27363707Rarity buff. She only streamed a karaoke stream, a Minecraft collab and the Holo Among Us
>>27363675Not in any tangible form, chinese market is walled off. I doubt Anycolor is making any serious money there either, most of VirtualReal's revenue goes to their chink partners and CCP.It's kinda funny, but despite all their fanatical patriotism, chinese by far prefer to consume foreign products and media. They would rather prend their monthly salary on iPhone than buy Huawei, they think chibese movies are dogshit and love hollywood blockbusters, same with vtubers.
>>27363940Too manly for Twitch
>>27364058They have twitter hashtag moderators too?
>>27364040that and the staff at twitch hated him
>>27363720if they actually want to break vshoujo they should start with rushia, I doubt a menhera like her could take it
>>27363628Get 3M Followers on twitch and Susan will give you a $30M contract.
>>27363675No. I say this as someone who believes that not all Chnks are bugs, but the whole Taiwan debacle has shown that the market itself is too volatile. Choco-sen had stepped on a landmine when she included Tibet in one of her quizzes and we all know that when B2 wants to take hold of the market again like when they conveniently debuted A-Soul just as Hololive was leaving, they can easily manufacture another drama to kick them out when the time is right. I also doubt that Yagoo would be open to try and do business with them again, especially after they tried to pull a fast one with HoloCN supposedly keeping their models.
>>27364058let alone the mods, the bot mod on twitch actually works
>>27363720hope they stop spamming fubuki livechat too and move on to newer target.
>>27364089forgot about that actually.
>>27363959Isn't Kson the only one that still has spam block protections along with Fubuki?
>>27363876Eh? But they arent that hype during b2fest and their numbers arent really that good. Or did they incline significanly since last year?
>>27363646This might be the worst post ever on /vt/
anyone watching irys holocure stream? she seems super passive aggressive and worn out and dunked on yagoo (don't remember what she said). think she's already thought of leaving hololive and is just waiting for her 1yr anniversary before she dips?
Miko WWE2K at 22JST today
>>27364167I think Coco's channel has that protection, not kson in general
>>27364274Dumb rratposter, go be a schizo in the catalog
>>27364274meds
>>27364167spam protection is already imprement, it's subs only mode that forced bot to do phone verification.It's doesn't stop a bot that done by open mutiply screen with different account and then do spam manually.But then again the manually spam can easier got ban and taken care of than the program.
I just want another azur lane collab, cover defending her and coco leaving and joining vshojo leaves a bittertaste for me.
>>27363720BASED
IRyS 18k. I guess Holocure still has some legs
>>27364068I will never forgive chinks for killing hongkongkino cinema!
>>27364283HoloGold
>>27364328i will not take them. i'm right and you'll all see in a month
>>27364274yes im watching, yes this is all true
>>27364274go back to your creative writing thread>>27353935
>>27364274I am watching and you are misreading the tone. She said>of all the people for the body pillow why they chose Yagoo?It was clear genuine amazement of someone that clearly don't follow the community enough to figure out what>yagoo is the best girlmeans and why it exists in the first place
>>27363940Contract issues where he apparently tried to leverage his offers from other platforms, so Twitch decided not to bother with that headache.
>>27364283move it to 23jst, you dumb baby. well, rip marine's number.
what is the highest peak ccv for holocure stream?
>>27364274(You) >>27359472
>vaccineDROPPPEDUNSUBBEDIGNOREDDELETED
>IRyS had dinner with a black person
70k get, briefly
>>27364274Is this a sneaky attempt to get me to watch IRyS? I'm on to you, IRyStocrat!
>>27364492Marine’s just yesterday at 64kThen it’s peko at 62k and 53k
Irys just admitted to eating dog meat.
Irys >>>>>>>>>> Fauna
>>27364274don't forgot to take your meds, anon
>>27364529Mio approves of this message!
>>27364268i'm sorry but you can't convince me this is sexy
Irys talking about her plans to mating press Bae
>>27364640i refuse
>>27364607It's kinda good if you know how to cook it. t.halfgook
>>27364607Yeah mine
Irys just admitted to having dreams of giving Bae a mating press and pumping her full of baby batter with her massive futa dick
IRyS confirmed single?
The current stream is entering IRyS top 10, #8 so farHere is the list>91280 :: 2021-07-11 :: 【DEBUT STREAM】Hope has descended! #irysdebutstream>29415 :: 2021-07-12 :: 【One Hand Clapping】B-but how do you clap with one hand?>26938 :: 2021-10-19 :: 【KARAOKE COLLAB】IRyS x Calliope Mori!!>25670 :: 2021-07-15 :: 【APEX】mouse aiming goes brrrrrr>24906 :: 2022-04-01 :: 【Hope & Council April Fools】pfft>24217 :: 2021-11-06 :: ≪MINECRAFT | HOLO SPORTS FESTIVAL≫ LET'S GO RED TEAM C!! #holoSportsfestival>21637 :: 2021-07-13 :: 【Q & A】Answering marshmallow questions!>20211 :: 2022-03-07 :: 『#BirthdayRyS』ITS MY B-DAY Woo~!【BIRTHDAY STREAM】>18675 :: 2021-07-31 :: 【Singing】Some more songs!>18121 :: 2021-11-14 :: 【FF14】Entering MMO Heaven! ※SPOILER WARNING
>>27364581Dropped as soon as it touched Hana.
>>27364850kek
>>27364261Founded in May 2017, ANYCOLOR focuses on the incubation and management of VTubers, and is also the parent company of the well-known VTuber project NIJISANJI. As one of its early investors, Bilibili led ANYCOLOR's Series A financing in August 2019 and is currently its third largest shareholder. Bilibili has promoted the localization of ANYCOLOR's VTuber business in China and cooperated with ANYCOLOR to launch the Chinese VTuber initiative VirtuaReal Project, which is currently the number one local VTuber group in China.Since 2018, Bilibili has been supporting NIJISANJI to enter the Chinese market and became the exclusive agent for its VTubers in China, responsible for the launching and livestreaming of NIJISANJI's VTubers on Bilibili, concert livestreaming, VTubers merchandise sales and more, becoming an important partner for ANYCOLOR 's overseas business.At present, NIJISANJI has nearly 50 VTubers on Bilibili. On May 6, 2022, NIJISANJI's VTuber "Vox" made his China livestreaming debut on Bilibili, gaining over a million fans on the platform. VirtuaReal Project now has over 70 VTubers on Bilibili, including Ling Yuan Yousa, Nana7mi, Aza and other popular figures. VirtuaReal VTubers have accumulated over 10 million followers on Bilibili.The VTuber industry is booming in China. From June 2020 to June 2021, there were 32,412 VTuber livestreaming accounts on Bilibili, an increase of 40% year-on-year. Over 86% of Bilibili users are young people under 35 years old, including a high proportion of game and animation fans which highly correlates with the VTubers audience.In the future, Bilibili will continue to deepen its cooperation with ANYCOLOR in the areas of VTuber content production, technology enhancement, commercialization operations and global expansion. Bilibili will also continue to focus on Japanese start-ups in the ACG industry, VTuber and cultural entertainment industries and support potential companies to develop their business globally.https://en.prnasia.com/releases/apac/bilibili-backed-virtual-youtuber-management-company-anycolor-goes-public-366049.shtml
I feel like this VshojoJP thing is either gonna implode in 2 weeks or become a breakout success, no inbetweens
>>27364849Four of her top 10 are from her debut week
>>27364670She literally made for old fat man
>>27364944>In the future, Bilibili will continue to deepen its cooperation with ANYCOLOR in the areas of VTuber contentRead: steal the whole branch and assume total control.
>>27363720Oh so now China is good huh? Fucking hypocrites, every one of you
>>27365027Not old enough, not fat enough.
>>27364955Hiring kson is fine. Hiring mike cat is the problem. Are they the best people they can get? Shit looks grim.
>>27365079>Oh so now China is good huhWho the fuck said that was a good thing?
>>27365099mike is literally one of the biggest vtubers in the industry. with kson and mike they have the #1 and #2 most super chatter youtubers EVER. That instantly makes them the super chat queens.
>>27365152uhhh... >>27363852 >>27364383
>>27364955Nah, I think it will be quite the opposite, Vshojo's brand has no real power, it's a big fuss because they are hiring two Hololive members, but I'm pretty sure they will get literally the same numbers
>>27365079Nobody says they're good. Where did you fucking read that?
>>27365079Nah it's just not holofans business anymore, let's vshojos deal with them.
>>27365210That's more anti-vshojo more than pro-china.
>>27365197Mike cat is tainted as fuck. She has many antis in the JP sphere while kson doesn't
IRyS calling Bae a slut on stream Rn
>IRyS getting better numbers than Fauna for HoloCureIna really is the only one who can get good numbers from that timeslot
>>27365210So why are you quoting the initial post that was reporting the news?
>>27365210Two shitposts don't thread consensus make.
>>27365099I wonder if they were just essentially blinded by the opportunity to get former holos considering the position of that brand in Japan. To be honest though, anyone trying to jump into the JP vtuber scene might do the same.
>>27359726Almost 40k is extremely high for a totsu. Since this is her first 3D live since being embraced in the Holo box she should easily at least double last years 30k and could even triple it with Suisei as a guest.
>>27364154I've never seen any chink spamming Fubuki's chat nowadays. I think she got the spam protection like Coco?
>>27365314IRyS is just a better entertainer
>>27364955Did they say whether they were on YouTube or Twitch? I feel like the JP audience on Twitch is way too low for them to do much better than they do now. It's an awkward middle ground, because the main Vshojo branch is overwhelmingly NA and Vshojo's content is pretty much in alignment with Twitch culture. However, the JP audience is overwhelmingly on YouTube and the retarded "MUH CREATIVE FREEDOM" shit doesn't seem like it'd attract JP audiences at all.Who the fuck is Vshojo JP actually for? Is it really just, "HEY GUYS, LOOK, WE HAVE FORMER HOLOLIVE TALENTS, WATCH US"
>>27363720I love china now
>>27364944>In the future, Bilibili will continue to deepen its cooperation with ANYCOLOR in the areas of VTuber content production,Damn i thought anon was shitposting when they say the chinks own anykara. But, they actually trying to overtake anykara kek
>>27365386>I've never seen any chink spamming Fubuki's chat nowadaysFor her solo streams it's rare nowadays. Collabs and 3D lives she is in tho...
>>27365365The problem with mike is she is fired because she broke NDA. Good luck having any JP company take you seriously
>>27365386nah it still pops up from time to timethey tried to ramp it up during the recent amogus collab which made fbk switch to members only
>>27365386They appeared during her 4th anniversary stream
>>27365377Suisei alone isn't enough to pull full box power. She needs at least 1 other heavy hitter for that level of pull
Did hal get any boosts after joining tsm? It's gonna be the same with kson. Majority signed streamers to brands like faze and etc don't really get a boost.
>>27365455I've watched her observation duty stream and there's no spam. When collabing, only other members got spammed because I assume they don't have any spam protection.
>>27365499>Did hal get any boosts after joining tsm?Negative boost, his median and average crashed and Reid is ahead of him now.It has nothing to do with the move tho and more to do with streaming too much and the in between of APEX seasons without tournaments
>>27364955It'll be a nothingburger. Nothing significant will change and kson will just stay as she always been.
>>27365432>shit doesn't seem like it'd attract JP audiences at allThats because theyre not targeting the jp audience theyre targetting the weeb jp purists
>die right before 20kIRyS...
>>27365386Yes, HER channel does, but other channels she shows up on....
>>27359520Bear in mind that even with that she's still in the upper echelons of indie vtubers. There's only really a small handful of indie vtubers who can do better than her, most of whom are also already famous from something else
>>27365432What does Vshoujo do with their creative freedom? Do they do drawing streams? Game shows and trivial shows? Weird comedy skits? Hololive even did some kind of escape room shit. I just don't see where 'creative freedom' comes into it, Hololive isn't uncreative.
>>27365592>small handful of indies better than herAny example?
>>27365579>Die before 20k>All the ADHD infected schizos immediately tab outWhat the fuck is wrong with vtuber viewers? Watch the fucking stream.
>>27365210Are you going to cry about this on twittard, your sub, discords, comment sections?
>>27365365The problem is, how will they differentiate themselves from Hololive and Nijisanji? Hololive cornered the idol market, Nijis cornered the regular streamer market, VS's current brand is "muh freedum", aka no identity at all. They are all over the place.
>>273655793 more secs and she would have gotten it…
>>27365626>What does Vshoujo do with their creative freedomThey are free to be crass and ignore copyright law, that would be about it
>>27365626saying fuck and shit while talking about sexthats the creative freedom
>>27365695Well she better hurry because this is starting soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5utbgVjBt9c
>>27365655Shigure Ui, IMO. Better character, better tech, better choice of entertainment and better numbers
>>27365655Gatchman V, Shigure Ui, and that's pretty much it as far as I know
>>27365626They watch reaction videos for 6 hours a day.
>vsj runs auditions for fucking ages>still no fruit >however instantly scoops up former holo talents for a jp branchdid Nux actually fucking kamikaze the vsj auditions that hard
>>27365703Miko said fucking NiggerVshoujo can't do that
>>27365655Ui and Gatchaman and maybe pochi
>>27365703Not if they now operate in japan, I think.
>>27365674the percentage of an audience that actually watches an entire stream is actually incredibly small, most people can barely bother to watch clips, it's just that places that are so fanatical that track their fucking numbers usually have an over representation of people that watch the whole stream
>>27365674Think about it: that anon tabbed out to come tell the thread. People do that because they know the build up time is some minutes and they can do other computer related activities
>>27365432Twitch's JP audience is about 20k ish and all they watched is fpsshaka.>>27365099Honestly as someone who works in recruitment, I don't know why a company wants to hire Michaelangelo. Her record is really bad.
>>27365777how long has it been since her last karaoke? i genuinely don't remember
>>27365447they don't own anykara. 45% is riku, then less than 15% are the other companies
>>27365841A long long time ago, when Holos were around indie level of name recognition and numbers
>>27365826>thinking that there were auditions in the first place
>>27365840>>27365782>Ui>pochiNot a pure vtuber>GatchamanVI don't know anything about him. Is he the only pure vtuber one?
>>27365557What? What would be the point of making a separate branch and advertising (in English lol) in Tokyo then? Why not just roll them into the main Vshojo branch? What kind of retarded strategy is this?
>>27365386You can see a lot of them during Amongus collab.
>>27365840no, Pochi is a 1k ish streamer. Similar deal with Kagura Nana, actually, most mangaka turning into vtubers don't tend to do much better than 1k
>>27365916>Is he the only pure vtuber one?No, vtuber is hise second channel>Not a pure vtuberAnon, out of all of those the only one doing facecam on the same channel as vtubing is kson.
Why are these growth charts so different
>>27365674Modern viewers all have ADHD. If you don't have ADHD, you would have reading as your hobby (real reading, not audiobooks)Also why don't Irys stream more? She is the only tolerable EN, except for Gura, or maybe Bae sometimes.
>>27362089Get in line bro
>>27365916Gatchman used to be a faceless streamer, he went full in on being a vtuber sometime back. That's what the V in Gatchman V stands for
>>27366007The one below is in a tournament, the incline is when the main channel announcer announces his game and he starts playing, I assume
>>27365926They're counting on the ideals of 'we aren't hololive, that should be enough to succeed' to carry them. These people, sometimes I wonder if the reason they exist is because they just fucking bought into the rrats and schizoposts of anti-idolfags and didn't think critically about the real world situation
>>27365926>What? What would be the point of making a separate branch and advertising (in English lol) in Tokyo then?so that you can claim that the branch is authentic japanese. retarded weeb purists eat that shit up
>>27365557Their advertisements in Japan always emphasize "Talent Freedom". They're fucking retarded. No one in Japan cares anything about that. The fact they only hire ex-hololive is pretty telling. They're targeting people who hate hololive.
>>27366023>Also why don't Irys stream more?She's menhera and doesn't take her meds. Just visit /HIRys/ to get an idea of what their complaints about her are.
>>27366077Consider the fact that a good chunk of them might be /here/ ... You do the math anon
>>27366023>only tolerable ENSEArystocrats infest every thread i see
>>27366023Watch the fucking stream, she said to herself, recording hell.
>>27365916Gatchman is the only male vtuber approved by soratomo and being the closest male chuuba to ever came is sora's presence in the same room. Sora even congratulated him on his birthday
>>27366077That's western hubris for you. They can't see that other countries have different cultures and values.
>>27366099>retarded weeb purists eat that shit upThat's an accusation as shallow as>those unicorn retards this, those idol culture lovers thatIt doesn't work like that. Quite the contrary, any of those imaginary "weeb purists" would reject anything tainted by association with the west
>>27366077>>27366122This is almost 100% true, but not in the sense that they literally hang out in /vt/. The probable scenario is that their internal discord is an echo chamber and they convinced themselves of retarded bullshit without any basis in reality from hearing it repeated over and over again without any opposition
>>27366191https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsBD66Sa5Yg
>>27365676i wasn't planning too but thank you for the suggestion
>>27366273Kek That's a gorilla. Doesnt count
IRyS die again....
>>27366273fucking virtual gorilla
>>27366007theres nothing wrong with them. they just have inherently different content
>>27365907Not to be that guy but Mikos Niggah was around the middle of 2019. The numbers they were getting then would make them the #2 vtuber org today. People have taken stories of Sora's 13 viewers and Miko's tragic start too literally. Once they got into the later end of 2018 with Gen 1 gaining a foothold and Gen 2 debuting Hololive was already gaining a ton of traction.
Can someone see how many dislikes Kson got?
>>27366339>>27366351Male gorilla, still count
>>27366273>nobuhime on the comment section
IRyS playing like a retarded, EN gold goes to Luca today
>>27366070Correct. All the event tourists and those who were watching the main POV move over to player POVs.
>>27366417irys wasn't going to peak higher than a niji male karaoke anyway
>>27365863I remember she did a karaoke right after that balloon stream she did.
so... Mel and choco next huh, along with chama and noel
>>27365926Now that you mention it, it is indeed pretty retarded desu
>>27366475Baffling post
>>27366453Yeah it seems Luca just started he probably won't peak until like 30 minutes.
>>27366475hopefully
https://youtu.be/e9fISvKNY4sIndonesian xQc, Windah Basudara is playing holocure. His viewers does not watch vtubers and some of them hate vtubers. Will this help holoID to incline?
>>27366475After kson became vshojo, there'd be two possibilites>holo support her through collab and turn VSjp into holo adjacentOr>block all collabs, RM and Main
>>27366023>Also why don't Irys stream more?Throat hort. Won't stream if she has recording. Plz andastand
>>27366273LMFAO kino
>>27366453I like how Luca had a meme channel icon for the longest time but once he started reclining he changed it to something a lot gayer looking. Fucking fags man.
>>27365079Anon... Your reading comprehension omfgGo back to Elementary school retard
>>27366245>Quite the contrary, any of those imaginary "weeb purists" would reject anything tainted by association with the westI think your confusing Weeb purist with a ken sama. Weeb purist would go to little tokyo and buy those imitation wooden swords as long as it has made in japan on them even thought they were made locally while a ken sama would actually order one from japan. Weeb purists are basically an upgraded version of an anime normie.
>>27366651Maybe if it had HoloID in it, but as is I don't think it'll help much.
>>27366651What if this is M-chan's keikaku?
>>27366241One funny thing is that some people think VShojo can differentiate themselves in Japan by being "unseiso" while japanese streamers are all idols.They are completely unaware that things like this exists>>26354398 >https://live.fc2.com/27043183>There is literally a chuuba right now streaming the insides of her vagina to the internet for views She legit picked up a camera, wrapped with a very opaque but still visible wrapper (condom?) and shoved it in her vagina and streamed it.Nips give zero fucks about this, they do it for money and are third only to the Brazilians and the German in pornographic degeneracyThere is zero way VShojo JP can outbid them in that matter.VShojo girl>haha, I said I like to suck penisAV chuuba>well, I stuck a camera in my pussy and streamed it in front of 4k people
>>27365197Soooo, is mike gonna continue her GFE in vshojo or something?I still dont know why the fck shes thereWhats the point of advertising in jp if vshojo aim for those 2 from beginning
>>27366651Speaking of, have any other streamers outside of Holo streamed holocure? How were their numbers?
>>2736665120k, that's Sykuno tier. Didn't he already shill Kobo anyway?
>>27365926VShojo have no strategy. They have no identity. They think they can repeat "talent freedom", as if that means anything to regular audience. In practice this leads to lack of any cohesion or shared culture, it's every man for himself.
>>27366475kek im mel and choco's rm group and joining vshojo would literally kill those two groups which is a huge cashcow for them
>>27366665She has been recording a ton lately. My guess is that she is going to release another EP on her anniversary. I'm excited if that is the case. I think Journey is her best work and it's a shame that none of those songs got MVs on her youtube channel. That is a legit great EP.
>>27366651Kobo is imploding
>>27366651>7.7M subsMaybe it would be interesting for the makers of the game to include some HoloID references for a part 2 in the future
>>27366782>sykkuno >20k on ytanon... you have to let those numbers go...
>>27366770I mean that assumes that it IS her, which I will wait until she's actually revealed before making any judgements.
>>27366115/HIRys/ called her bratty and clingy for some reason. Generally their complaint is that she streams very little, so yeah.>>27366172Yes, I am a SEAchink, my pure-blooded white-anglo-anon. What gave it away?
>>27366759>There is zero way VShojo JP can outbid them in that matter.yout forgetting one small detail which also made mori's roommate semi famous in japan>its american
>>27366780Mouse streamed it and got her usual 10k, some indie girl did one of the first holocure streams and now has a over 7k VOD when she struggles to get 1k
>>27366782His average is 40-50k+, probably his viewers won't watch if its vtubers related
>>27366804Voices in my head tell me that, considering nips are retarded, kson could promise them an even bigger cashcow of a group with VShojo.
>>27366780I've seen screeshot of chuuba from Kawaii streaming it.
>>27366759I jacked off to that stream... some please upload an archive.
Sorry I only watch handpicked curated clips nowadays no normal person would waste so much tome watching a whole stream . Btw i love holocure clips so convenient for the actual content
Wait a minute how the fuck does Luca get 25k on an unarchived Karaoke while Vox barely gets 6k on his 900k celebration stream
>>27366939she got 9k
>>27366651Indochads, I'm just joking, please don't actually inclining ...
>>27367022>unarchived KaraokeHere is your answer
>>27367022>unarchived english karaokeIt's fucking unnatural though to be honest but whatever I'm tired of Luxiem bullshit
>>27367022unarchivedcelerbation karaokesince they have reclined in subs they cant do celebrations as fast as before. And luca made his viewers used to only attend events. He strugles to get 8k nowdays on normal games.
>>27366651All according to plan
>>27366932But Mori is literally american, kson and mikeneko are both japs. You can call kson imitation american, I guess.
>>27367146Why do they have the gayest thumbnails?
>>27366932You are mistaking "American white rapper", which hits two points in the already exotic subculture of JRap with "American crass talking degenerate".The funny thing is that Coco made it work on Hololive (while it sank most of the girls on Nijisanji) for one and one reason alone>the contrastMost of the jokes with Coco and being crass was the dismayed reaction of Yagoo or the more seiso girls of the bunch (Watame, Luna, Sora) getting a bad influence.Everybody loves *the* mild but lovable delinquent in a high class posh school anime but nobody bats an eye to the mild but lovable delinquent #12 in a delinquent school anime
>>27366949>kson could promise them an even bigger cashcowmel and coco have stated that they are not gonna do vtubing forever and have plans on focusing and continuing their rm accounts after they retire from hololive so unless kson can offer them retirement money i dont see that happening
>>27367189that's not really gay compared to the shit vox pulls
>>27367189becasue that is what attracts their viewers.
>>27366949Vshojo needs another $11 investment, Mel and Choco would probably be cheaper than Kson and Miguel gato tho. Noel? Lol might have to throw in the whole pot for her to maybe move.
>>27366651
Can Mumei's Karaoke beat Luca's terrible singing?
>>27366651Oh fuck, now those "bocils" will fall for that scam apk version
>>27367146Male vtubers are disgusting. That thumbnail man, phew.
>>27367189Anon, that's pretty low on the tier of 'gay thumbnails'. This is like, Male Idol tier, which is pretty low compared to some of the nonsense Mysta goes with.
>>27367155i meant the company as a whole im guessing their appeal outside anyone of the anti idol audience is that were an american company
>>27367207Anon... Coco is kson...
>>27367246Why would Noel even consider? She's already does stuff on her rm account.
>>27367246Meant $11 mil but maybe $11 bots could also propel Vshojo higher
>>27367344same with choco and mel
>>27367338He meant choco for sure.
to be honest until i see kson getting some interesting sponsors or deals or tech. i call this move just dumb.
>>27367338choco i mean
Guys why is it always 11 ?
>>27367262No Mumei karaoke never goes over 20k and IRyS won't necessarily stop playing. 10-15k and maybe up to 20k if IRyS ends and funnels her.
>>27367444Well the fucking chink hate is still following her to the level that Nyanner's original artist is purging everything related to her and one of their bigger chinese clippers are stopping so they'll definitely have to get more local things
Reimu inclining!>r-raid!It doesn't matter, faggot, she had great retention and peaked AFTER the raidit's so beautiful to witness the transformation of a 3-view to a 4-view, it's like seeing a butterfly rising from her cocoon.
>>27367344Why did Kson and Miguel gato even consider? Why did Syukku and Ludwig even consider? Guaranteed $$$. My point is she won’t consider unless it’s a huge sum
>>27366651Why is this guy hoping to get Kobo from the council gacha?
>>27366651>got sana>disappointed
>>27367246Vshojo will bought Gura . Mark my words
>>27367495>horror game>sub2ksure...GREAT...
>>27367262It's really fitting that NijiEN's first cripple win is a fucking unarchived milestone karaoke.
>>27363765Can't wait for it to be higher than Roboco.
wtf he's shilling Sana!?
>>27367548>He subscribed to her immediatelykek
>>27367548I would be too if I got that roastie.
>>27367512>the $11M were almost entirely used to bring kson and miguelbig if true
>>27367521This guy is goddam intense! First time watch his stream and he just doesn't stop talking.
>>27367548
>>27367618she's kinda indo
>>27367512The way I see it, holo just looks fun overall with the activities.
>>27367512Why not vox why not Melissa why not someone from Niji ??? Or every shitpost always is attack holo and ignore nijis like Lulu and niji kr ehh???
>>27367495nice hopefully they can incline and become the number 2 company again
>>27366651>23kDidn't he get 80k with bootleg fall guys? Is holocure debuff outside holo?
>>27367618holy shit, this is unfair holobronis
>>27367246Mel, Choco and Noel are already rich, they don't need Vshojo. They're only in Hololive to make friends and fulfill their lesbo tendencies.
On a side note: they ABSOLUTELY should forbid the public from bringing cameras and taking pictures of the talent. They always come out the most unflattering as possible>pic related Whoever posted is is an anti for sure
>>27367493WTF I love vshojo now?
>>27367587Isnt that the common thing?
>>27367731 This might be the answer >>27366941
>>27367731holocure is only relevant in the vtuber circle and possible indie gamers.
>>27367618He must be feel bad after saw sana number
>>27367512>Why did Kson and Miguel gato even considerbecause they unironically earn less than noel
>ID XQC getting 22k playing holocureisn't this low for him? i remember he's regularly hitting 30k-40k+
>>27367755was she always this fat?
>>27367755DISGUSTING
>>27367833it was the pizza addiction
>>27367816I think his fans just hate vtuber in general
>>27367816Remember that vtuber content is a hard filter nowadays.
>>27367833>unfiltered photoProbably yes
You guys are giving me second hand cringe showing windah playing Holocure. It's like having your popular normie friend actually trying out the anime you recommended
>>27367755She became burger sized within a year...
>>27366770So wth she going to talk about then? Oh I just had amazing sex with my bf unlike you losers like nyan and vei?
>>27367755The pizza has to go somewhere anon>Ban doing shitThis isnt pissy ass asia you mong
The thread's kinda comfy bros, why can't we be like this everyday?
>>27367754Exactly, the gameshows they have on the main channel as well? You get to have fun even though it's suppose to be a job.
>>27367816vtuber is still a niche no matter how popular it looks
Windah can't stop screaming Kobo, and I think I heard Reine.
>>27367833She wasn't when she was coco.
>>27366661If Vshojo really does hire Mike, I don't see them collabing with Hololive anymore.
whoa
>>27367754At this point that's probably the case for all Holos except maybe HoloX. They've made it, all that's left is to use what they gained for their personal interests. Can Vshoujo get you a fucking power suit? Subaru got a fucking power suit for her birthday.
>>27367800When will they realize Indonesia is worthless market for vtubing
Hey Anons, what would happen if Mori joins VShojo after she graduate? Would she and her music still be relevant?
>>27367816May i remind you fag what time is it in ID land? You could just check out his previous stream to see how much he get for non vtuber content in these hours.
>>27367918tell me the truth anon, its over for vox?
>>27367654She's kind of secretive about it, never mentioned any ability to speak bahasa or brought up any connection when collabing with IDs. Maybe she can't, or just doesn't want people to know like Bae with her CN.
>>27367960You get a backpack with a camer to stream at most.
>>27367512Miguel before Hololive was just an e-celeb chaser trying to become friends with the NND crowd, she wasn't anything special past the 50 filters. Kson was looking for a job in management.
>>27367974>5 years from nowprobably not
>>27367815Well that was my point anon… they would need an even bigger sum for her to even consider. Noel is a big earner JUST from her holo career
>>27367618Jesus, chill out with the saturation indofriends.
Fucker is streaming SPARK!
>>27367974Can her music survive in the normie/mainstream market?
Kek, Windah is dancing to spark
Now Windah is just vibing with Kiara's original song.
>>27368092Calm down anon.
>>27368092>>27368106>>27368121oh, for a moment i though luca was singing spark in the karaoketoo bad, would have been good shitposting material
>>27368009Exactly. At that point, Vshoujo is ultimately more of a job than being a part of Hololive. Holomem basically use their place of advantage to accomplish their dreams, everyone else is just on a grind
So what are the chances of kson digging out Aloe and Hitomi Chris to complete the akatsuki quartet? Do people even know what Chris is up to nowadays?
>>27367512Anon, Noel probably has more money than all Vshojo members and the company itself together
Wait....is this thread...full of Indonesians?
>>27367755>that picWhat the fuck? Is her age catching up to her? I know that she's always a hag but she's still hot back in the Coco days. This is just sad
>>27368210we ruled 50% of this board.
>>27368187>everyone else is just on a grindyou asume Vshojo girls stream
>>27368210no shit
>>27368210look at the time in jakarta anon
>>27368210First time here?
>>27367904He is the definition of a brotuber. I watch fleshtubers and i hope starsen are like that. Nijien males just give me second hand cringe.
>>27368092okay that little dance he did at the end there had me laffin
>>27368210As many Indonesians as people watching JP chuubas that actually know Japanese
>>27368210You think INDOCHADS is a mother fucking meme?
>>27368190Aloe and Kson have been speaking irl so theres a possibility there. As far as i know chris is mia
>>27367974No. Look at her tiktok comments. They're shitting on her.
>>27367974Holos who would think to graduate wouldn't understand the opportunity that they've been given. They won't even feel proud or be grateful for it and try to keep the job for as long as possible. Because of Hololive, Mori went to Critikal status overnight, Gura to Sykkuno/valk/Ludwig tier too, the other 3 beats your average top streamers too. If someone leaves the box, safe to say that they'll just be irrelevant. They might keep some fans but they'll dwindle, they can't achieve the high they had becoming a Holo previously. The collabs are what makes Holos special.
>>27368255I'm talking about Nijis. You're right, Vshoujo doesn't even grind.
>>27368210All me
>>27367994Vox better run from the tide VYYYY
>>27368210dont forget about the most powerful race
>>27366651Already 120k vod with only 22k ccv?
>>27368209>my point is she won’t consider unless it’s a huge sumAnon that’s why I included Ludwig and Syukku, I was trying to make a point they would need around THAT much.
>>27368210always has been
>>27368335Anon tiktok comments shit on every single song
Yo, Kurumi, none of the people that regularly get discussed in this thread is in danger of going bust because a few of their paypigs leave. If petra is still going fine, so will Finana
>>27368421youtube doesnt want to pay indogs view clicks
>>27368424I actually wanted to quote this >>27367246But yeah, both your point and mine still stand
So any how many ID members have Windah shilled? Kobo getting mentioned a lot in this thread.
>>27368445kek, wrong thread?
>>27368445who?
>>27368210Nah i just want to see what ID Xqc is like,
>>27368492I think someone said Zeta
>>27368338You are right, just look at kson's merch incident and her derpy 3d. She probably realize how hard it is to being an indie and join vshojo needing help.
So what is Windah's comment on Kronii, he has a real big reaction to her massive booba and what else?
>>27368492just zeta and kobo
>>27368492Kobo got mention a fuckin lot in his Holocure chatroom.
>>27368445wtf I can't believe Finana is fucking dying.
>>27368491In vshoujo, you yourself have to make content.In Holo, management makes content for you.
>>27367755She actually looks like an aunt
>>27368549He said that Kronii has a big passion while looking at her booba
>>27368549Not understand ID but he click on 2 of her stream, 1 is an SC reading and second is a house flipper stream. Both are not sth that would gives you a good reaction.
>>27368445While true, you need to understand that 3views isn't enough to do anything more ambitious compared to just streaming yourself playing gamesYou need that money if you aspire to greater things
>>27368335
>>27367755after the whole froot thing, is vshojo even a chuuba agency with this, i hate flesh
>>27368589>In Holo, management makes content for you.kek, WTF are you even talking about? One of the biggest complaints about Holo management (EN more so) is that they are a roadblock preventing the girls from doing what they want, hence the whole "Talent Freedom" motto for VShojoJPWhat the fuck are you even talking about?
>>27368445>none of the people that regularly get discussed in this thread is in danger of going bust because a few of their paypigs leaveat the rate that finanas paypigs are leaving? she'll be glad to at least stick to petra levelsthanks for the free membership by the way
>>27367580It IS overlapping with Millie unarchived karaoke, Luca unarchived karaoke, Petra handcam stream and Ike guerilla zatsudan.Four months ago facing that same overlap she would legitimately not get 400 viewers in the same situation
>>27368671that's basically Kronii's content anyways, indie games + sc readings
>27368589not even worth a (you)
>>27367974Nope, vshojo fans don't care about music
>>27368682>nijiniggersAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH
>>27368589>In Holo, management makes content for you.anon pls dont be this retarded
>>27367618Please accept our gift, our Aussie friends. Please stop shitting Bali btw, there are too much drunk Aussies there.t. Indochads.
>>27368589lol in holo you actively have to fight management to make content, you fucking retard
>>27368699four months ago she wasnt playing horror games.Also none of reimu viewers watch luca. when he is done she will get nothing
>>27368210you came at the wrong time anon, come again at eurohour
>>27368682oh hey noor still shilling that "real" discord
This might sound insane but I don't think any current holos would leave hololive unless they're forcibly kicked out. Yeah they have a fight management sometimes but they are well-treated generally. For example, even Ame who gets shutdown many times and gets some of her project sabotaged, defends the management a lot.
>>27368699True be told, other than a small stint in the 3 views until the saving raid come through, Reimu is over 1k for the most part of the past 2, 3 months even before raids
wtf I love vshojo now
>>27368689What the fuck? Vshoujo doesn't even make content, they barely stream. All they do when they do stream is react and gaming, there's no content being made
>>27368210There are more indos in /#/ than in Jakarta. Probably more tagalog speakers in this thread than in all the HoloID girls generals..
>>27368682the absolute state of nijiniggers
>>27368695>finanas paypigs are leavingReally?
>>27368682Hahahaha!
How many money we need to get Gura to our Vshojo , HoloBros ?
>>27368805Why the fuck would they leave? This shit is a golden ticket. If I were in their position I would never leave unless I'm being horribly mistreated or I found better jobs/opportunities
>>27368869pokimane
>>27368210Why do you think this thread is so bad?
>>27368821lollmao
>>27368589????Anon some hololive talents sometimes need to fight management to get their content approved
How many times is Mumei going to have to delay her stream before IRyS finishes? Keep in mind she literally started off the stream talking about how much her throat hurts and that it would be a short stream (for real this time).
>>27368821this is already going well
>>27368821It's like watching street dogs fighting. You have no stake and can do nothing to prevent so you just pick some popcorn up and watch from afar and lauigh
>>27368805Why would they leave? This shit is a golden ticket. Noel and Suisei already planned their contents for 2023-2024.
>>27368821your a little late anon even the wolf warriors already know and are starting to mobilize
>>27367146I respect the unbotted graph. Congrats on him.
>>27368910have you ever had a job?
>>27368805Is le creative freedom really that enticing over the consensus golden ticket in the industry?
>>27368821>using a chink artistShould've been called Vchinkjo
Why are people seriously discussing other holos jumping the ship?Reminder that the only ex-holo who graduated on her own accord is kson, and even that is not because she hated Cover or Hololive, but because of schizo antis, same with Aloe, Rushia was fired for being a retarded menhera. Rest of holos have absolutely no reason to quit their cushy gig just to downgrade.
>>27368938some anons lurking in b2 and the china pol board were saying that they might divert resources to both kson and veibae
>>27368978His point is that anon saying "Hololive creates content for the girls" is bollocks
>>27368944How long until an angry vaguepost about how this hellhole is the one tattling to the insects?
>>27368845No. Her paypigs are the least /here/ of all the lazulight or obsydia girls. She probably wont see a difference at all going forward. Probably just get a few pity bucks from drama tourists the next week or so before it goes back to normal
>>27368910>>27368784Just like in every job?
>>27367781that's why it si fitting
>>27368989Welcome to /vsisters/ anon
Real talks here for all the ID anons, why can you understand English? Wasn't ID part of Dutch colony? Why don't you learn Dutch instead?
>>27368994>and veibaekek, lots of "internet tough guy" posturing about China will get scrutinized now.I wonder if any of those girls talked about the so called "concentration camps" in China, like they talk about burger politics.I wouldn't doubt
>>27368987>>27368821just to clarify, that's her original artist who did the original model that Nyanners hasn't used for over two years by this point, it's not an ongoing thing
Things Holos do that Vshoujo doesn't, and Nijisanji does less. Music ProductionLive Events3d ShortsGame/trivial showsSuperchat ReadingHolos have a monopoly on real talent compared to the rest of the industry
>>27369060english is still the most widely used second language
>>27368984I would choose golden ticket every time. Money > creative freedom. Anyone who prefers creative freedom is just coping at this point.
>>27369033she was ona recline only bosted by her birthday this month.
>>27369060english is the lingua franca of the world anon
>>27369000well it's not entirely untrue, some stuff is company projects
>>27369078>Game/trivial showsthis is just wrong, niji does this shit multiple times every month
>>27368869$50-100 mil, same as pokemane. Or guarantee her a few Miku concert collabs and let her idol it out.
>>27369115Money is creative freedom. You can't do anything interesting if you don't have fucking money to pay for it
>>27369145As a proportion of the number of streams they put out? They do more superchat readings and zatsus than that, 100% for sure
>>27368989Old guard with loose contract are just gonna stream less if they get bored and the newbie with stricter contract are too motivated to prove themselves to jump ship anytime soon.
>>27369033wasnt she on a recline and the bday month stopped that?
Is there a list as to how many Holos has made EPs or Albums before? From gen 0 to EN 2, I could only think of Sora, Suisei, Aqua, Subaru, Okayu, Towa, Watame, Mori. 8/60+ members. That's a bigger ratio when compared to Nijisanji and most of them are signed by labels.
Heckin yikes, nijisanji gold bronze and silver today. Hololive can't even break 20k with irys return stream, let alone get a podium. And I thought it was bad for ya'll when it was announced you got cucked by Coco and RushiaFeels amazing to be a niji fan. So many collabs and streams this week. When's the next time Gura streams btw? LOL
>>27369177Then vshojo girls are fucking poor because they only spend on new models
>>27369078Hololive is a talent agency
>>27369177Anon, Gura can't even get herself to stream 4 days in a fucking week without taking a whole week off, do you really expect her to join a company in which she has to manage things by herself?
Reminder
>>27369206At least no one graduated on our side, anon
>>27369223Gura needs some kind of structure and people who make her accountable to get her to do things. She won't do anything in VShojo
>>27369223>do you really expect her to join a company in which she has to manage things by herself?kek if she does join shes gonna go back to pre-gura schedules for activities
>>27369206Anon, you sound so foreign you can only be bloke from the screencap saying "I don't even know about vtubers, I just go there to shitpost"
>>27369223No? That was my point, Gura has fucking money, she can basically ask Cover to handle the hard part and just fund whatever special thing she wants to make, and it'll happen eventually
>>27369203https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/music?m_cat=album&paged=2
>>27369286Oh no, a streamer graduated from Nijisanji after 4 years! How will we manage?Here's a fun fact: there will be a day where Ame, Gura, and Ina will graduate. And knowing that you're a holobrony now, it's going to hurt you waaaaaaay more than how I'm feeling nowScared?
>>27369306theyve been trying new baits after being exposed ill give them that
>>27369121Yeah but this year that has been true for most of the NijiEN girls, and most of the HoloEN girls too. She is one of the few that has been the most stable and reclined the least. She just has never really gotten a lot of SCs in the first place. And besides what does her reclining in june before her birthday have to do with the yab that happened at the end of the month and all her streams after has been july streams
And we just lost page 10
>>27369400What happened now?
>>27369164Kind of incredible to think of the fact that Gura isn't even the biggest in her company and she mogs Pokimane, who is basically mainstream as it gets
>>27369432meidos woke up and deleted alot of spam threadsand I mean alot
>>27369400Did mods kill the bait threads or something?
>>27369177I wanted to quote >>27369164FML, IT'S THE SECOND TIME IN LESS THAN 20 MINS HsfDSFAFAXHEWI'm going to sleep anons, see you tomorrow
>>27369394that's a funny way to admit that nijikeks don't give a shit about their chuubas you mass produced shit eaters
>>27369078>music production>live events>game/trivia showsNijisanji does lots of these, shit game shows are one of the things they're most known for. please at least learn the most basic things about the company you're tribalfagging against.
>>27367755kek, she's trying to put a facade but women don't take this sort of things well.Not the best foot forward
>>27369060Not even people who have mixed Dutch ancestry here speak Dutch anont.mixed Dutch
>>27369478see>>27369253intern kun is trying to mix it up with the baits
>>27369460there were like 6 threads that were just pics of the hololive logo, amongst other things
>>27369206>Heckin yikes>yallThis is a nijifaggot falseflagging as a holofag falseflagging as a nijifagYou are too on the nose retard
Creative freedom is just an excuse for i want to do low effort streams desu. The only thing i can think of unique from kson is gunpla streams and her 3d debut is not much different from cover's usual 3d stream.
>>27369177so...based on that vshojo is poor because they only do talk show, react, just chatting, and sometimes playing game
>IRyS wins just as she is about to hit 20k>She died right before 20k earlierThis girl is cursed
>>27369400we lost most of page 9 too, I think they've deleted like 25 threads
Nijinigger status?
>>27369530Not even the Dutch speak Dutch, they speak some sort of mangled language that sounds like a fat german choked on a avocado seed trying to request assistance
>>27369579Of course they're fucking poor. Their entire business model is based on spending investment money like water and hoping it gives them some traction.
>>27369206here, take this (You), i know you need this to survive another day
>>27369478Anon you're seriously responding to someone listing fucking Spacha Readings as "real talent" and things that Niji doesn't do. They slapped you in the face with bait and you chomped on it.
>>27369538>posts trash>immediatelly getting put in his place>spergs outkek
>>27368821Never do business with chinese.
>>27369478Music production is label's. On their own, they didn't do that much music production.
IRyS I swear to god, just tease playing yourself as the next stream.
>>27369164Lmao , 50m ? No dude , never happen , 10m max
>>27369678yeah intern kun is like that he has autism pls be patient with him
>>27369586she just rolled herself, she might make it this round
>>27369586>playing as herself>likely would get 20k>Mumei is starting
Damn that was close for a 20k for IRyS. I had hoped that even if she didnt get it from beating the stage she would at least with gacha luck.
>>27369747Believe in Mumei's delay
>>27369723Dumbass, Pokemane is a smaller streamer than Gura in every metric and she was paid potentially a hundred million dollars to stream on Twitch as a counter to youtube's offer. You pay Gura 100 mil or you shut the fuck up.
how have we gone from ex holo talents getting another job to current holo talents getting poached
>>27369530Real talk again. Do ID school teach Dutch? I know the current French colony in Africa only teach French but not English. Those countries are still having treaties with France that essentially make them French colonies unlike ID though.
>>27369813>>27369054
>>27369813>>27369253
IRYS YOU SAID IT WOULD BE A SHORT STREAM YOU FUCKING LYING SACK OF SHIT
>>27367947Don't you know? Gura's subs increase because of course they do!
>>27369842Nope. English/Mandarin/German I think.
>>27369518fuck fat people, seriously
>>27369788She has already delayed it 30 minutes. It was supposed to start at 12:45 AM Eastern.
>>27369594nijichad reporting inI am feeling pretty good right now, thank you
Will IRyS raid Mumei so she can beat Luca's milestone Karaoke?
>>27369946nice some decent competition from the 3rd company
>>27369842Dutch never really tried to fully colonize Indonesia, they never had the population numbers to even attempt it, they just economically exploited them.
>>27369946Today will be kobo 1st unarchive karaoke, will she beat luca
Isn't Karaoke CCV supposed to go up as the stream go on?
>>27369946Glad you are enjoy the streams today, both companies had some nice streams, I hope we can keep having fun in the future
>>27369946isn't this like 8k less than the one that everyone freaked out about, are their tourists already getting tired of their shit
>>27369995>raidI dont think so unless they planned and talk about it
>>27369203Assuming solo album/EP not a collab album : Sora, Azki, Suisei, Okayu, Towa..., Watame, Mori, IRyS.
Why are HoloEN's ceilings so low compared to their floors? They're collectively around 10k median, why is their ceiling around 40k on a good day and 20k on a bad one?
>>27369842No, English is mandatory and some school teach other languange, for example Mandarin/Germans/Japanese. my school have deutsch and it's not fun
>>27370006Come on. The Bongs controlled the entire India with 3000 men at best.
>>27370100timezones
>>27370028if the usual indobots get activated then maybethey will probably boost her to Luca's peak +1
>>27370043His last karaoke had 36k
>>27370035No one here watches Luca lol, don't fall for bait.
>>27370035Seethe more holocuck, your impotent tears makes my dick hard
>>27370100I would tell you why I think it happens, but that would start the eternal timeloop and I don't want that
>>27370100EN vtuber market cap isn't that high.
>>27370173man, you guys got real mad about marine beating a graduation announcement and 2 salami streams with holocure huh
>>27369946Damn real nice numbers from the 3rd biggest en vtuber company, hopefully they can take the spot back from vshojo and go back to being no 2
>>27370100Their big streams are all guerrillaThey don't hype it up
>>27370028Probably. She is indo Gura so she should have her own version of that massive fisrt unarchived karaoke Gura did that blew away everyones expectations
When' the Mahjong finals happening?
>>27370100because vtubing is a fucking niche outside of Japan, why is that so fucking hard to understand?
>>27370100Real answerNot enough Debuts, more generations/waves = higher tourist cap
MOOM NOW!
>>27369183My point is, what the fuck are they gonna be jumping to and why? There is nothing VSJ can give them over Hololive, "freedumb" is a fucking meme.
>>27370100>vtubing>mainstream lmaowhen the number 2 and 3 vtubing companies in the en has literal 3views in them you know that vtubing is a fucking niche
>>27370100Why are nijiEN's floors so low compared to their ceilings?
moomers
>>27370439Fujos only bot big streams
>>27370439female talentsreally a burden on that branch since none of them have any talents and their relevancy is dependent on luxiemhonestly nijien would be more successful without those shitters
>>27370390any holo ID still in 3view zone??
>>27370157well is a expected recline.
>>27370304>>27370390baffling postsThese are objectively very high numbers for streamers overallGura is a bigger streamer than Pokemane
>>27370566anyaiofi
>>27369842they dont, 99% of them get english instead since elementary school up to high school or college
>>27370566None of them average 3 view but Anya, Lofi, Risu, and sometimes even Ollie can dip that low if it's a debuff enough stream.
>>27370222You can't expect me to believe that Hololive has somehow managed to reach the actual market cap of ENvtubing. Total market dominance is one thing, the prospect of somehow exploiting the entire possible Vtuber accessible fanbase in EN is just stupid
>>27370573and valkyrae shits on everyone but guraso does xqc technoblade disrespect dream vtubing is still a niche even with gura
>>27370573i know i might surprise you with this, but even xqc is niche
>>27367947Cool, another 10k who won't show up to streams.
>>27370755The most perplexing post in this thread
>>27369842also dutch isnt fully colonize indo in general, they are more like USA in middle east, they just actively persuade some local warlord to fight another warlord then get benefit from it
>>27370790Nijiseethe
>>27370550>LuxiemLuxiem's floor is low though...
>>27370711>the prospect of somehow exploiting the entire possible Vtuber accessible fanbase in EN is just stupidanon majority and i mean the mainstream majority thinks vtubing is retarded
>>27370711I don't think you understand. Low market cap means whatever % of the market you get will be smaller, not that you have every possible viewer for every stream. If your market cap is 800k it's easier to get a 100k stream. If your cap is 200k getting 100k is incredibly difficult.
>>27368821
>>27370755and gura is more niche than xqcsee my point?
>>27370752>technobladeAnonchama......
>>27370824not even his real floor
30K watching HoloEN at 1:30 in the fucking morning on the east coast.
>>27370824>celebration>5kwhat went wrong?
>>27369518Shameful.
>>27370100The cull is the real answer.The larger the CCV, the more people that are watching but not counted.It’s really hard to get a large number when your real number has to be a significant amount higher.>>27370439For whatever reason it doesn’t seem like Chinese viewers are removed in large numbers.There’s also the suspicion of botting.Either way it’s easy to tell that one or both are the reason due to the huge difference in VOD views within the processing window.In the short term VODs highly correlate to CCV.
>>27370824now compare that to those female shitters who would struggle to reach those numbers and hell they even affect his numbers when they show up >>27370923face it nijien management dropped the ball when it came on recruiting the girls. resources wasted on them would be better suited to supporting luxiem
>>27370944guerrillas are posion for them nowdays imo.Since the fujos arent avid youtube watchers they need to know beforehand a stream is gonna happen to appear.
>>27370944Celebration spam leads to "celebration" becoming a meaningless buzzword and people lose interest.
Uki karaokes > Mumei karaokes
>>27370808That is how colonization usually works though, at least the Bongs did the same thing too. Only the Belgian and Japanese did it differently, Belgian because the King is crazy while Japanese actually investing in their "colonies" like Taiwan and Korea because they genuinely wanted to make those region a part of their countries instead of a quick cash grab.
>>27370793i mean, he is, twitch in general is a niche site, you know how many viewers shit like sports or music get? xqc is an ant compared to that
cripplegold fights looks good tonight
Fucking hell Mumei, just do a set list before the stream, like your Valentines karkaoke. That way you don't spend 10 minutes pondering about what you're going to sing and kill your numbers.
>>27371079Yeah I agree on you with that part management really dropped the ball in regards with the girls. What the fuck were they thinking hiring holo rejects
>pokimane>sub 20k shitter>got offered to stay on twitch for 100 fucking million dollars>literally more than what anycolor and cover combined got for a whole fucking yearhere you got /#/tardsthis just proved more that EN streamers are worth more than you can think of.. Pekora and Miko couldn't ever get that amount up until they retire.
>>27371134>>27370912
>>27370858We know for a fact that isn't the case because we've gotten 100k streams before for EN, we've gotten 50k streams before, the market cap can't be that low otherwise it would have never reached that many people in the first place. Yet the ceiling for even major events these days is around 30k, and sometimes Gura can reach close to 30k with whatever stream she does, no one else can break the 30k ceiling
>>27371235who?
we might end up hitting 1500 today
100 million is a meme, right? There's no fucking way she's worth that much. That's world class athlete money.
>>27371235>he thinks twitch paid for pokimane because of her viewers
>>27370944>i'm not your boyfriend and stop harassing reimu >one stream later >sorry girl, they forced to say this please don't leave me really pathetic
Oh yeah, I remember that Miguel's model are gifted from some Chinese artist.What will happen to it now that she joined Kson in Vshojo?
>>27371091>>27371095It was because he streamed it after an already later than usual for him elden ring stream. Like 6-7 hours after his usual starting time. Vox just gets absolutely murdered in viewers every time he goes outside of chink times. Like he is probably the smallest Luxiem in just NA fans because every time he tries a NA time stream he gets lower views than even the NijiEN girls lol
>>27371300Anon they paid around $30-40 million for sykkuno
>>27371340im sure luca and mysta are in the same boat.mysta has avoided non chink hours since forever.
>>27371381Youtube, yes. Google just throws money.The 100 million from Twitch is complete bullshit though. They're not like Google/Microsoft.
>>27371192Not taking it seriously is a cope for her. If she actually tries and doesn't do it as well as she wants to, she beats herself up over it.
>>27371456They're owned by Amazon, retardbro...
>>27371488amazon doesnt care about twitch.
>>27371456Amazonbros...And losing pokimane would also hurt their brand since she is the top female streamer that they can parade
>>27371519Utterly baffling post
>>27370898
>>27371381On one hand that's pocket change for Google, but on the other it's still a giant waste of money that they could just as well given to charity.
>>27369394Mayuzumi lasted 3 years, not 4. At least try to pretend you are actually a nijinigger.
Questions1. Why holoENs don't stream that often?2. Why is it ok when Ayame did it? (not streaming that often)3. Judging from the trend, are niji catching up to holo in terms of JP, EN or ID?4. Why are most original songs shitty with shitty views. Is it really because all the chuubas in niji/holo are not talented singers? Barring Azki, Suisei and Chima of course.5. Is vtubing as an industry plateau? Seems like there are a lot of commercial success but everyone seems kinda only getting bread crumbs unlike the OG Kizuna Ai, which has huge budget concerts + huge sponsors and product collabs.
>>27371456Why do you think they couldnt make a counter offer for sykunno and ludwig? they actually went all in for pokimane
MILLIE MOGGED
>>27371598Fuck off
>>27371286We've gotten that before, but before is not now. Western vtuber high point was late 2020 early 2021. It's be a slow downhill slope since then, and of course the cull hasn't helped either. The good news is we probably already hit the bottom and rebounded somewhat, so it's a stable market, it's just not what it was. I'd be shocked if EN3 debuts even get close to what Council got.
>>27369723At least bait better, intern-kun. I know you can do it.
>>27371562not even a jokeAmazon even sells you the tech to make your own twitch. they dont give a shit nd probably are just asking why the fuck they are spending this much money now.
>>273715981. Kill yourself2. Kill yourself3. Kill yourself4. Kill yourself5. Kill yourself
>>27371598The answer to all of those questions is the same: because you suck dicks.
>>27371551I thought that was Amouranth
>>27371300We don't know for sure but usually when they publicly announce a contract it's bullshit numbers. They do that with athletes all the time, with conditional bonuses that are impossible to hit but included in the total, or non-guaranteed theoretical extensions.
>>27371456They don't need Ludwig and Sykkuno. They NEED Pokimane. She's their poster girl.
Here's a real question:What's the prettiest number
>>27371774can't really parade a whore like that
>>27371598>Judging from the trend, are niji catching up to holo in terms of JP, EN or ID?No because nijien wont discard the deadweights that are the female talents if they had then they would have inclined faster
Twitch to Amazon is like Youtube to Google, there you go.
>>27371711Amazon is blindly expanding into everything without any solid plans. Just look at the absolute shitshow that is their game studios division.
>>27371774>parading amouranthkek that would literally divide their users into 2
>>27371335Doesn't matter since she barely uses it and has the Vshoujo model now, but it just depends if they transferred the commercial and ownership rights to her.
>>27371857Not even because Youtube makes a lot of money for google while Twitch is scrambling to justify not being sold off by Amazon.
>>27371816If you say it like that, holostars are deadweight to Cover too. Why don't they get rid of them?
>>273715981. ask them2. she already did her hours3. only on EN and barely, luxiem is council level4. unknown entities are harder sells5. no, it's literally bigger than ever if you pay attention to event numbers
>>27371931Because cover is a retarded company Nijisanji is better than that
>>27365210VShojo bad. China bad. It's a good thing if they fight and burn each other.
>>273715981. idk2. because3. no4. they aren't5. no
>>27371928Not to mention the AI tech and user data is worth its weight in gold to Google.
>>27371892She'll have 25 different models by the end of yhe year, all in different styles, all ugly as sin anyway.
>>27366759Nigga what!?
>>27370173
>>27371300>https://www.theloadout.com/streamers/pokimane/twitch-deal-moneyLong story short, it probably is bullshit. She took 'less money' to stay on twitch according to her own words. The deals had a pay out difference higher than whatever was in her bank account though, so something like 5-10 million$ is a minimum since that's her supposed net worth
>>27371931cover should unironically do that honestly
>>273715981. this thread will try to convince you that success breeds jealousy but it's false, it breeds complacency and laziness2.it was and still is NOT okay3. JP maybe, EN for sure, ID no way ( they don't even have a branch anymore)4. you need a truely great singer and someone that pushes hard and shills their music to succeed as music-oriented vtuber, normally covers are for already popular songs so it attracts more people but its harder to make a good song from scratch5. Nah, Vtuber industry is growing. Hololive is growing. Nijisanji is growing. VSPO is growing. And judging from today Vshojo is growing too.Anything else, anon?
>>27372054But that data weights nothing, it's just numbers...
Tick tock, Luca. IRyS, release the funnel.
>>27372038then why are they still keeping the deadweight that is the nijien females?
IRyS will raid Mumei and Luca will lose their long wait EN gold
>>27371931Never believe dumbass shit people say here.
>>273715981. they get money with the minimum effort2. Ayame is ok because she earned it 3. JP? no, EN? if you wanna compare the males with the girls, sure, we will see what happens once stars pops out, ID? niji is fucking dead there4. originals get poor views because they are that, originals, tourists play covers because it's something they know5. yep, there's nothing to attract viewers, it's very difficult to attract people that are not already in
>>27372116>face of twitch is offered less than sykunnodyrbi
>>27372160Why are you replying to yourself?
>>27372169The server racks...
>>27372090I hope she gets a demon model. Maybe like a type of succubus.
Every. Single. Time
Really good numbers for Moom, especially with overlap. Guess it helps she hasn't spammed karaoke recently.
Can't wait for VShojoJP to be completely different from VShojoEN, just like how NijiEN is from NijiJP.> Welcoming to otakus and weebs instead of shitting on them.> Keep private life away from streams instead of flaunting your irl relationship.> Full on parasocial pandering instead of exploitative gaslighting.It's going to be glorious watching the OG VWhores seething without being able to do shit about it.
>>27372254it's not for him, it's for everyone else reading
>>27372224I said a minimum. It's a differential of at least 5 mil between the deals offered
>>27372107Hours watched:>Hololive: 15.7M>Nijisanji: 19.3M>Hololive EN: 3.3M>Nijisanji EN: 5.9MHoly shit, I didn't think things had changed THAT much during the last year.2434 officialy the number 1 vtuber company again? After 2020?
But what if its not Michaelcat
IRyS you better end soon so that Mumei can get that funnel.
>>27372312i will shit more on the VS girls laziness that is for sure.
now that ludwig, sykkuno got $30m to stay on YT while pokimane got $100m just to don't leave twitch I'm starting to think that myth alone is already worth more than their company by that matter and YT and twitch literally don't care about CCV at all
>>27372334The rrat will only be broken when both of them stream simultaneously
>>27372312>Keep private life away from streams instead of flaunting your irl relationship.Kson already proves that part wrong.
>>27371931because cover is not like nijisanji? why are you this retarded anon? I dont care what that dying company does
>>27372327Baffling post. Hours watched is a meme
>>27372327R*ddit spacing anon continues to be the biggest retard in the thread.
>>27372327>watch hoursthat is a meme metric man
>>27372245take your meds, tranny
>>27372327>hours watchednow you're gonna tell me koyori was the number 2 holo for june or something
>>27372327Fuck off oboretai
>>27372312They hired Kson and Michael Cat so uh..good luck with that.
How do I make it so that my favorite video games are buff streams for Vtubers I like
>>27372116lmao i remember that they released that cause one of their friend spilled the beans on how much they were being offered by youtube thats where the 30 million from sykunno came from and it caused a bit of a drama which is why the had to release that
>>27372390If she does a full stream the voice will be easy to tell.
>>27372327Not only is it a meme metric the fact that HoloEN is that close when NijiEN streams much much more is not a good thing btw
>>27372038your JP got some new 2 views member anon
>>27372312>Keep private life away from streams instead of flaunting your irl relationship.>kson>miguel de gato>aloe
>>27372362Big Streamers = more people will watch streams, is their logic. These people thing when you buy a streamer you buy their audience, so if they move over you're adding 20k~ people to the viewer pool of all streams. Yes, it's retarded, but that's the logic of the people who pay 30mil$ on Sykkuno and Ludwig
>>27372362YT and even Twitch don't really care about vtubers.
>>27372422>reddit spacinghow to spot a newfaga 2016 refugee perhaps? it's time to off yourself>>27372414>>27372437>>27372445>post numbers>get called out on your shit>cry about "meme" metricsalso, what happened to the daily and weekly SUPERCHAT posts?oh, and what happened to comparing MEDIAN PEAKS? why the change to average instead?we know the answers to all those questions, don't we? also your seething doesn't change reality
>>27372526Make those video games into popular memes.
>>27372621ludgwig can at least make some big streams/evetnsbut sykunno is baffling
>>27372334Not even the first time it happened
>>27372526Only like video games a lot of other people like.
https://twitter.com/nakiriayame/status/1543471223510040578
>>27372526Get ypthem to be good at them. The autismo crowd will at least show up.
Do people even try these days when writing bait?
>>27372592>metric shows that NijiEN is dunking on HoloEN>well ackshually that's a win for HoloEN and a very worrying trend for NijiEN
>>27372694baffling newfag post
>>27372747(No Delivery)
>27372694>reddit spacing
>>27372312> Welcoming to otakus and weebs instead of shitting on themWhere do you even get this? Some of them are huge weebs
>>27372694>why the change to average instead?Maybe NijiEN should stop fucking raiding. Like fuck dude Enna got raided THREE FUCKING TIMES in the same stream
>>27372327with 2 times the amount of members, that's a low number anon
>>27372694ywnbaw
>>27372694The reality is that Nijisanji is small fry dumbass. You still lose on median peaks. No one gives a fuck about superchats because no one posts a tally for itHours watched is a joke
>>27372762Anon, did you not see that they ranked above Niji?
>>273717958
>>27372160So the ENs are basically lazy? If it is not okay for Ayame how is she getting away with it every time? Generally vtubing is growing huh so the pie is getting bigger for everyone. Holo more incline towards the male audiences while niji for females.>Anything else, anon?Prediction for vshojo +Kson +- Mike the cat? Bomb or success? Or just slowly back to status quo for vshojo.
overdrive to kill the thread quality tonight i see shitposterchama
>>27372327>Streams 5 times more hours>Not even 2 times more watch hoursKek nijien really is a joke
>>27372694Yes because it will show how shitty the nijien girls arePeople here are biased against males and will defend their shitty 3view livers from any criticism
>>27372747(no delivery)>>27372762Baffling post. NijiEN has near twice the amount of people streaming than HoloEN while also streaming almost thrice the amount.
>>273717959 since it doesn't change the digital root
>>27372881NijiEN malesThe females are fucking garbage on their ccv views
This is actually a worrying trend for NIJISANJI EN...
>>27367755fat aunty kek
HoloEN should only do one stream each month and do like an unarchived karaoke for it. That way they will have the top CCV each month and will be even bigger than HoloJP because who cares about watched hours only the top CCV counts. Cmon Gura with only 1 stream each month I am sure you can beat Pegora I believe in you
come on, shitpost harder, we can get to 1500
>>27372762>11 lazy holoEN vs 20 hyperactive NijiENretarded post
>>27372944>almost 40k watching IRyS and Mumei what the fuck
dont forget to say hi to our friends from nijien indobros
>>27369164>guarantee her a few Miku concert collabs and let her idol it out.Kek. She could already do that if she ask daisenpai
>>27372944A 10k recline is a bad trend, yes
i normally hate the vodcope chart but post it to him so he can shut up about dumb metrics
>>27373016They cute and that make the number large
>>27372998>hyperactive en>still gets less viewers than the lazy whoresour nijien females were a mistakespamming streams without any good content is killing our branch
>>27372960oh holo vs holo, pekora vs gura, en vs jp. nice
>>27372944>last one was 36kreclined
20k DORYAAAAAAA
Mumei 20k
>2nd most popular HoloEN can't even beat a mid tier NijiEN with unarchived karaokeMaybe those Vshojo doomposters are on to something.
>>27373098Agree honestly the only ones worth saving is selen since she has something good and unique to offerThe other girls are just basically bootleg hololive
>>27372960>actually switched to en vs jpyou know you can like, jack off, it's an option you have, it would be a better use of your time than roleplaying
>>27372960>muh CCVJPfags has literally nothing else to offer rather than ccv fucking kekmeanwhile ENs are getting higher vods, music views and subs so shut up last samurai just enjoy watching your oshi
>>27372754Why try when the most retarded shit still gets half a dozen (you)s
Mumei 20k and with overlap
>>27372694>posts a bunch of seethe>cries and shits himselfNijidogs are always yapping.
>19k only gets bronze for the cripple tally
>>27373170but you said she's below faune yesterday.
>3 fucking hoursEnd your stream you stupid ugly goblin bitch
>>27373170>NijiEN males>mid tierthose are the female shitters though the males are top nijien livers
>>27373188samefag
>20k while overlapping IRyS playing HoloCureIs Mumei inclining?
>he replied to himself
>>27372107Gura you don't have to carried this hard , HoloEN is the past , let come to our NijiEN .
>>27373195Do (you)s that you give to yourself really hold that much value for these kinds of people, though? You know at least half probably are.
>>27367755Kek
>>27372944Yikes, niji en how the mighty have fallen.
>>27373273delete this
>>27373016That's the peak chart, tho they were at 35k for a good amount of time.
>>27373273imagine the smell
>>27372998Not even 11 holoen since it was for the month of june with ina being on break, myth all travelling and doing shit etc etc blah blah
>>27373341no the vod says otherwise
>>27373273I want to touch that so bad for some reason....
>>27373273kek
>>27373273>that belly flapdisgusting
>27372694It's bait. Not even good bait.
>>27373271I guess so because they keep doing it?
>>27372754Standards have gotten that low. I blame nijiniggers only using cut and paste holo memes
It has been 3 hours. End your damn "short" stream already.
nijienniggers you better beg IRyS not to raid Mumei!
20k get
>>27373453For her, this is still somewhat short
>Hololive streams less, so obviously they're a dying company even though they get the same numbers of hours watched with a margin of <15%, completely dominate median peaks, averages, and peak CCV per day on Gold, Silver, and Bronze.>Anything other than CCV is cope, except SCs when nijien holds the number 1 position, anything external to streams doesn't count, despite the fact that at least half of what Hololive does is idol shit outside of streaming>Hololive winning on CCV doesn't matter because they're a dying company in recline, they're a black company and no one wants to work for them, they're less popular in Japan even though they get higher numbersThe absolute STATE
>>27373454Irys has never raided before
>>27373454Or mumei raid irys.
>>27373526Thats because youre not using the sabermetrics approach in ccv views though? baffling post
>>27373453You always bitch she doesn't stream enough, and the same for all the other ENs. Stop complaining you wanted this.
I'm surprised IRyS has actually held at 15k when overlapping a 20k unarchived karaoke.
Alright, no cope, no excuses, no bullshit. Based on the Niji stockholder presentation, what do investors really care about regarding company numbers?
>35k between mumei and IRyS Ugh I thought HoloEn was dying out
>>27373579>he isn't using Divination to ascertain who is winning in CCVEvery other metric is trash, trust in the stars to divine truth
>>27373531She raided herself once I think, so she technically knows how to do it.
>>27373266holy ESL
>>27373526my favorite one is the part where they are proud of their livers streaming even though it doesnt provide any significant results for them numberwise
>>27371774Amouranth is a tiny step any from being a full blown camwhore. Not really great for branding.
You guys have seen picrel and still fall for nigger's bait. Trully kill yourself, the lot of you
>>27373665Money. Specifically, profit margin.
Mumei will pass Luca if IRyS actually raids her.
>>27373669That's a single fucking Subaru stream. EN is dying out.
>>27373665profit margin and contentwhich is why the girls are basically deadweights in nijien
>>27373744HoloEN doesn't raid.
>>27373744i doubt irys even knows what a raid is
>>27373665Nijis presentation is what Niji wants people to care about, not necessarily what they actually care about. Ultimately it just matters how much money you can make, and how much you can make people think you will make in the future.
>>27373607Itd be fine if she didn't start her stream talking about how she has been in recording hell and her throat hurts like hell. She needs to end before she has to go mute for a month again.
>>27373665Profit margin, potential growth, and future prospects.
>>27369684No music production is them doing comission for something. Like Nornis or any EN original song like DCL
>>27373783Some do
>>27373726>>27368682
>>27373665money and profit margins which spells disaster for livers losing paypigs
From my point of view, Hololive is evil!
>>27373742I wonder how they're planning to increase profit margin by 12%
>>27373884I wonder how much money Cover lost from firing Coco and Rushia
>>27373854But they don't even though they do.
>>27373938good thing theyre not an ipo beholden to investors
>>27373915Cut costs, that's what happens any time a corporation wants to raise their margins. Fire a bunch of people
>>27373915They fired KR and ID staff.
Come on IRyS end your stream
Holobros..
>>27373915Fuck over the employees, duh.
>>27373938Vshojo is gonna get Hololive's top two earners. Pretty crazy.
>>27373946That is true, but some do, even if they dont
>>27373915trim the fat starting with the lowest views and knowing japs theyre probably gonna start at the non jap braches
>>27373477Nobody cares about mumei the leech you tourist.
>>27373938Coco wasn't fired.
>>27374035They already did by shitcanning the whole KR and ID management
>>27374001Hmm... It's actually barren on HoloJP side. That's rare
>>27374001Fuck Niji and their bullshit 30 person collabs. Almost as bullshit as Hololive's Christmas relay.
>>27374001Who's the potential finalists in that mahjong tournament?
>>27374054We at /#/ care so fuck off.
>>27368682Cast them out.
>>27374083no shuba noon stream and holox is overlapping each other again
>>27374082and thats still not gonna be enough
>>27374025Kson is only mid tier now even with events. The recline was immense.
IM CALLING MUMEI PLEASE TAKE ME THERE MOOOMS
>>27374001YOU will play mahjong and you will like it.
You guys never told me Mumei could sing
>>27365210Anon I don't care what Chinese do its not we can stop them anyway. I tried my best to cheer on Coco when she got harrassed but all of that support became meaningless when she left Holo and now she is joining another corp I don't really have the energy to deal with this stuff anymore I'll just enjoy my slow life watching my oshi.And I hate vei that bitch called my oshi inferior
>>27374001Enjoy your goldGold is hard to come by for niji
mumei is such a bitchstreaming over hirys...
>>27373791IRyS raided her music video premiere
Everyone getting excited about IRyS possibly ending, she'll almost certainly read SCs. Give up.
>>27374025Former top two earners.
Mayuzumi graduating is pretty bad. The dude made a shitton of money with his voice packs and merch and would donate a bunch of it to charities. He didn't even have monetization on his account so that people would go and support him through merch instead. Dude may not have a lot of views but he brought in the $$$ so it sucks to see him go
>>27374001Wha, why is it only 60k?Thats quite low for them
believing Kson will be a big game changer is like believing in holbox doesn't exist
>>27374264We told you shes Gura lite
>>27374332That's exactly why he's leaving, he fucking hates being monetized and Nijisanji is going to be going into maximum milking mode soon
How has no one posted the Luca and Mumei graphs stacked on top of eachotherHave a laugh at how retarded Luca’s looks in comparison. It’s pathetic as hell
Looks like there aren't many shitposts and baits here tonight
WHY IS IRYS STILL PLAYING
>>27374500o v e r l a p h e l l
>1000+ posts>The thread is still on page 9
>>27374453Luxiem peaking early on and then reclining isn't anything new.
>>27374563damn, jannies must be real mad about the kson threads
>>27374332Not to mention the collabs he organized. He is one of the major nexus points in nijisanji and losing him is going to hurt.
>>27374535Because she's a retard who doesn't give a shit about Hololive and is trying to ruin her voice again instead of actually doing the smart thing and doing short 2 hour streams like she should.
>>27371816imagine being the retard who say that when nijisanji have many male 3views
IRYS ENDINGRELEASE THE FUNNEL
>>27374563I N C L I N E
>>27374535Is two streams really overlap hell?Jesus
>>27360137shion's channel is a big debuff compared to marine's, she's algorithmically not as endowed
>>27374784Not yet, she's reading supers.
>>27374752should say 2view instead
>>27374831DO THAT IN ANOTHER STREAM YOU BITCH
>>27374803Anons in this thread would have had an aneurysm if they followed NijiEN close to their debut. Lazulight often had three stream overlaps when it only was three of them lol
https://youtu.be/y3Ed1eCwuOAonly 600 waiting, holo recline
>>27374937>5 hours
>>27374803it's a joke, enfags get super mad at like fauna overlapping one person when jp usually starts like 3-4 streams every slot for like 5 hours and some of them never end it some days
>>27373854Didn't HoloEN raid something like 5 times in June, and two of those were Fauna raiding waiting rooms? Not really comparable.
Not even a tiny fraction of IRyStocrats went to go watch Mumei. Is she the most isolated EN member?
>>27375042Maybe but I can see that increasing a lot soon. Since raids started a lot of HoloENs have had breaks or otherwise streamed less. So there actually hasnt been supermany opportunities to do good raids. When everyone is back to streaming regularly and they often end into other streams I think you will see more HoloEN raids
>>27375240It's 2:30 AM, they were probably staying up to see her finish, but yes she's kind of isolated, her overlap is almost always the lowest besides Sana.
>>27375042There was literally 0 raids in June outside of Fauna's 2 raids and one was to herself.
how often holo en use raid???
>>27375240When was her last collab that wasn’t with Bae or CHaDCast?
>>27375240Out of 6k that left, 1k went to MumeiThat’s a lot anon, for just natural funnel
>>27375240It went up by like 1k, the rest probably went to bed
>>27373778are you fucking retarded? mito, ange, toko and a lot of the girls in there are more popular than a lot of males
>>27375240The same reason why IRyS rarely get funnel except very early ones - her long streams tend to finish too late for people to go anywhere else. It's either sticking around for her semi-zatsudan + SC reading for her IRyStocrats, or going to bed for others. Hoomans are likely already watching Moomer to begin with, so there should be minimal funnel
Jesus, Mumei's chat is almost nothing but green
>>27375352Almost never.
MUMEI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>27374001Holy recline
>>27373744Music channels can’t raid except into themselves
>>27375354Kronii's watch-along last month.But since you brought it up, it's indeed true that she hasn't collabed with Mumei for a while. Their last APEX / Overwatch collab was several months ago, I think?
>>27375453Slow Mode
>>27374435Nijisanji always has been in milking mode, so do Cover. Why do you think everything from them is expensive
>>273753546/2 - Kiara German lesson5/12 - Sora's Birthday concert4/24 - L4D2 Collab
>>27375498Luca sucks at singing. The fact he can pull so many still is bizarre.
>>27375256>Since raids started a lot of HoloENs have had breaks or otherwise streamed lessHoloEN always have breaks or some other excuse to prevent them from streaming every single month, raids won't change shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSWzIN343E0>salome only 5K HOLY RECLINE
>>27375498is this normal karaoke or celebration?
>>27375552>The fact he can pull so many still is bizarre.Milestone buff
>>27375498Wasn't this one botted to hell? 25k is probably closer to accurate.
>>27373669People underestimate Council but they are pretty good when they wanted to
>>27375552that or asmr or horro games where he can scream are the only content that he does that does numbers.
>>27375537Made to order merch
>>27375541lol a single collab a month
>>273755715k is actually great for debi, the average debi stream is like 2k
>>27373669Generally the EN audience is fragmented and shit. Also it's almost fucking midnight on the west coast and NEARLY 3AM FOR THE EAST.This is a mixed country english-speaking audience right now.
hey i just notice the minutes ago counter changes. when before it stays the same unless i refreshed the page.
>>27375571WTF is that voice. That's even more unpleasant than Luna.
>>27375577Why can't Vox pull good numbers for his milestones anymore? Why does it still work for Luca
>>27375240IT'S TWO IN THE FUCKING MORNING FUCK OFF
>>27375677Vox didn't do an unarchived milestone karaoke in his primetime
>>27375256If HoloEN raided as much as NijiEN the EN tally would be even more pointless than it already is since Niji would get blown out almost everyday. Imagine a day were Ina raids Gura who then raids whoever is in the 11pm slot that day...
>>27375345Didnt Ame raid Kaela?And didnt Bae get raided once?
It's impressive,
>>27375240Anon, those that are interested started to move over at :15, look at when IRyS starts bleeding viewers as they move over to Mumie Karaoke. It's also LATE AS FUCK, many people are OUT and going to sleep.
>>27374332Closest holo-equivalent I can think of is Mio. They don't stream games often and usually serve as collab organizers. Both also get mid-tier numbers relative to the cast of their companies too.Honestly wouldn't be surprised if his graduation beats Lulu's, eventho Lulu did have the drama buff.
>>27375763They'd probably get sub-10k like they fucking deserve because Raids fuck up viewer retention and are the main cause of NijiEN's recline.
new mori bait dropped in the catalog
Well, it's clear why IRyS has such dogshit views for her music. The people who watch her don't care at all for music seeing how they didn't even check out an unarchived karaoke.
>>27375677Vox>Had just played ER>Late in CN>Guerilla'd the celebrationIt basically showed just how fucking FRAGILE his numbers are.
>>27375677>Why does it still work for LucaBecause it's an unarchived karaoke?
>>27375781That was not in June retardo
>>27375781I think those were in May.
page 10
20k is Mumei's highest karaoke number in months right? Usually she caps out at 18k without overlap so 20k with Irys overlap is pretty great. Helps that she notified people beforehand that she was doing a karaoke multiple times this time instead of doing it as a guerilla.
>>27376082Yea, the 'it's been a while for a karaoke' + not a complete guerilla (and it's a weekend) means at least those who want to burn the midnight oil can sit in and listen.
>>27374001jokes on you, i like mahjong tooi wish sio didn't die
>>27376082Sunday buff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uMz1s9SCd4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uMz1s9SCd4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uMz1s9SCd4 NUMBER TIME
>>27376082the overlap with irys doesn't matter, no one went to mumei's after she finished playing and went into sc readingthe number would be the same even if irys wasn't streaming on the same slot
>>27376258yes they did
>>27376222i wonder if Kobo will actually be first? anyone wanna predict top 3?
>>27376258It's baffling how a Vsinger can end up with an audience that doesn't care for music, but that appears to be what happened to IRyS.
>>27376345kobo > platinum > phony
>>27365916the fuck is a 'pure' VTuber.afaik Ui hasn't face revealed on stream.
>>27376258There's not much audience overlap between karaoke and gaming.
>>27376324Like less than 5% of her viewers moved over to Moom, pretty negligible.
Is Irys really going to overlap Mumei the whole fucking stream? God fucking damnit
complaining about overlap when you can watch both.
https://youtu.be/7uMz1s9SCd4https://youtu.be/7uMz1s9SCd4https://youtu.be/7uMz1s9SCd4NUMBERCHADS IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN
>>27376376They're at least dedicated to show up and beat off.
>>27375001i think that's just the fauna schizo, anon
Next round of catalog shitting soon.
>>27376573Just use https://livecounts.io/compare/youtube-live-subscriber-counter/UCckdfYDGrjojJM28n5SHYrA/youtube-live-subscriber-counter/UCjLEmnpCNeisMxy134KPwWw
>>27376573
>>27376376I've been in /vsinger/ for quite a while and I can say that IRyS isn't mentioned too much there. Probably has to do with her not singing that often or something.
>>27376528TfWhy is it kobokan?
>>27376573On 4th of July too.
>>27376625Holo in general isn't mentioned too much there.
So any chance for VshojoJP compete with Holo and NijiJP in JP sphere? I only see the hype from EN side. Unlike EN, JP market is huge with many big players, not sure if they can top big 3 in any time soon.
>>27376640>>27376573USAUSAUSA
>>27376612>NoiceIts today, brace yourself
>>27376640Sasuga SEAgura
>>27376630Her song is gonna be at the top of the rankings, plus she even showed up to the ranking one week.
>>27365916According to your logic kson is not a "pure" vtuber either.
>>27376687Well since they got two big names right from the start, their average CCV will be higher than Niji JP for sure.
>>27376687There is basically no chance. Vshoujo is dead in the water even in the west, they're completely mogged by council, even ignoring Twitch's inflated numbers and Youtube's culled numbers.
>>27376573They are already salivating >>27366695
>>27376681Azki and Suisei got semi-frequent mentions. Probably because they actually sing.
>>27376687Zero chances, at least right now. With just two members and on twitch, they won't do anything to either
>>27376777Given Vei's recent interview, I even see her choosing to abandon vtubing entirely sooner rather than later.
>>27376573NoiceIve saved my grudgepost material since some anon shit on kobo when she's still 400k sub
>>27376687Too early to see, but getting kson is definitely going to draw some attention
I can't believe the mods made /#/ immortal...
>>27376828They will only stream on Twitch? Twitch for Japanese audience?
>Marine's fucking SHITPOST metatron cover is back on the rankingMan, the wonders of the algo.
>>27376887MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD
What the fuck? Did that get a boost in the algo or something?
>>27376887M O S TI N F L U E N T I A LT H R E A D
>>27376687Kuzuhatimetosleep.jpg
can they at least dethrone isgye?
>>27367755I wonder how it will go with her having a western way of managersUsually e-celebs gets everything done by the managers/company and don't even need to care about the video thumbnailI hope it shows as a positive results and get's Holo EN to step up their game with the shit Cover practices.
>>27376916i didnt see youtube on mike twitter, only twitch. kson idk
>>27376934I lately got recommended it so maybe algo magic
what numbers does ironmouse usually got doing karaokes?
>>27376934It must've, not like its the first time an old song popped up because of it. I remember the Onegai muscle cover ended up pretty high on the ranking one week because of algo shenanigans.
>>27376625Cause her songs suck.
These baits are so bad. Nothing got 10 (You)s. Very underwhelming. Draw something related to /#/ on ms paint. I'll give it a free (You).
>>27376625vsinger doesn't talk about any holo except maybe azki or suisei
>Kiara ft. KoyoHuh? When did they have collabo?
>>27376692Kobo is a dual citizen?
>>27366475> Choco> ever leaving Hololiveit's only going to happen once she gets married to me
>>27377220Honorary American
>>27376858Really, how the fuck can any company have a future in this industry of the talent all fucking gives up and stops streaming as soon as they find success? At least in hololive there are a few autists who have reasons for streaming besides the money
>>27376687Vshojo has been an English-only company since they began. They have fewer JP speakers than the other EN groups and use a site that JPs barely frequent where they are easily bested by Korean Hololive. Their most advertised pickup for their JP branch was known in her previous corpo for being an English speaker. Unless Kson and whoever else become a Salome-level viral sensation, I don't see them making a big dent in a market that competitive.
How long until miComet's Animal passed PekoMiko Daisensou?
>>27377220She's an honorary American on the 4th of July
>>27377065
>>27377327LMAO nice
>>27377327fake
>>27377327KEK
>>27377138like a month ago, they did a couple of game streams together, the cover did like shit first week, it got a bit of steam but it's deflating again
>>27376573Vox still makes much more SC money and merch money than her. And he already has a nendo.its not even a good comparison kek
Alot of views this week huh? It's been while since 26th spot is in the six digits
>>27367974First thing to ask is whether her channel will stay up.
Realistically, how much money does Vox need to farm from his fujos before he reduces his output dramatically?
>>27377327RUMAO
>>27377327
Is this list just Hololive or all vtubers?
>>27377401SC money is shit comparative to other revenue and Nijimerch is a literal joke
En ochame back in the rankings?
>>27377438It's never enough.Some people claim he's just a needy menhera, others have said he's a sociopath. BOTH paths lead to him continuing until the very end, like how Rushia never stopped.
>EN Ochame Kinou is higherWhat happened?
https://youtu.be/5lFmjbdOTycHas anyone kept track of Suspect's numbers?Did it see mich growth since HoloCure launched?
How the fuck can Flare collabed with KOTOKO. NND connection?
>>27377507It's on the title anonchama
>>27377327Alright, you got a chuckle outta me. Here's a (you)
>>27377550>>27377533I think there's been a boost in the algo or something, alot of old songs are getting a boost in viewsthis week
Damn RoyalDeathStar with Beat Eater is still going strong
Oh American KinouSSSKirameiki RiderWhich song do you think deserves to be the Hololive anthem?
>>27369842nope, english / mandarin / german, but most of the time it's only english
HOW THE FUCK DID THIS HIT 1200WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ONIS THE WORLD ENDINGSEVENTH TRUMPET?
>Suisei's new cover already out from to 10What the hell
>ninner still #13dayum
>>27377703It's another week with a LOT of 200k+ songs in the top 10. again.
Startend...
>>27377703And she already surpassed the original
>>27377719Her fanbase do their repsUnlike IRyS's
STARTEND #12
>>27377703She already beat the original in views too.
Aqua's gonna be back soon r-right bros...
Renai already out from top 10, CUMPEDOS STATUS?
>>27377521It doesn't matter if niji merch is literal joke for you, thats still money coming to him and being bought. Besides, its just debut and birthday that are standard merch for everyone, the rest is more different.
Renai Circulation out of top 10Huh
>>27377736>>27377752Still need to beat Proseka version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_ijFuoASt0
>>27377687catalog getting purged
>>27377776You have never been able to win this argument nijishill
>>27376687Vshojo doesn't really have much of a name in Japan. Also it's way too early to tell how it's going to go. As things are now, Kson's numbers haven't been particularly good. She barely outranks NijiEN girls in CCV. She'll probably get a boost, but she's never been good at maintaining high numbers because of her content. If they expect Nazuna to stream on Twitch that's probably going to be a disaster.
i forgot fucking aqua and kanata did a kamippoi, these pick ups always reminds me of weird shit
>>27377776Nijisanji merchant is cheap and casual friendly so they will sell better than the overpriced Holo merch.
What's this?
Ayame is back
>ojou hit 18Mjesas
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT OJOU
>Still on top 10I KNEEL OJOU
GOODBYE SENGEN BACK IN THE TOP TEN
>goodbye sengen back on top 10rorurumao
>>27368989Unironically Discord Holoantis >>27368682They stand out like a sore thumb since they don't watch Hololive, don't know Japanese and don't know shit about what happens within Hololive.Good example being thing guy, who - like all EOP faggots - missed the big JP offcollab that happened a while back (along with the recent Shiraken Disney trip).There were even clips of it, but it never got into the algorithm, so these niggers are worse than clipfags.
>2021 cover>top 10OJOU I KNEEL
>>27377898What does she sound like?
>>27377892They won't sell because no one is a fan of niji's all you have is tourists that will not buy shit
>>27377869At least cheap merch selling for high price did bring profit to niji though?
>>27376625Vsinger thread unironically just goes "people know them already" as an excuse to not talk about them and shill their low skill, irrelevant indies while larping as professional singers. If you want good discussion you won't find it there.
is that the first salamander cover in holo? the song was out around the time everyone was doing animal covers
>>27370100Global audience.VODs.
>>27378065It seems like it. I think it's also sponsored.
Okayu is such a good singer
Kobo number 1?
>>27376389you were right about kobo and phony but wrong about platinum
>phony still this highMakes sense. It's really good
INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING
INGODS WE CAN'T STOP WINNING
INDOGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGS!@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uMz1s9SCd410. Ayame - Goodbye Sengen (208,735)9. Suisei - Ghost City Tokyo (217,103)8. Gura and Shion - Platinum Disco (247,804)7. Iroha and Laplus - Identity (265,879)6. Mori and Gura - KING (272,470)5. Laplus - Nigoame (283,417)4. Nene - Salamander (300,870)3. Okayu - Critical Diver (369,690)2. Suisei - phony (418,479)1. Kobo - Tondemo Wonders (422,793)>>27378065Salamander is a bit weird since the song was commissioned by Nissin.
I KNEEL DEMON LORD
>>27378131didn't expect those gura shion covers to fall off that hard, those two songs are literally otaku bait
>>27378022Niji makes less profit than Cover does because their cost structure of trash and they have high expenses. Too many employees who don't even do their fucking jobs, over producing merch which loses them money, ect.It's probably not getting better unless they destroy their company firing dozens of people
INDOCHADS WW@?
>>27378196too autotuned
WTF! Its the first time i listen to her coverWhy. Tf. She sound like a fucking kidOr is it just me?
>>27377947Sigh, look read what they've typed and consider it from an EOP perspective. You can qualify this sort of sentiment ONLY if you're talking about a JP - EN Fanbase divide in the community, in which case YES, it's never been the same since Coco left. JP unity is still very solid, I expect ZERO chance of anyone hopping ship anytime soon except if something utterly retarded happens like what happened with Rushia.
>>27378216Because she's a literal kid anonA true kusogaki
>>27378216she is a kid
>>27373894WELL THEN YOU ARE LOST
>>27378216Holokeks are just bunch of pedo.Why are you surprised?
>>27378216yes, she does sound like a fucking child, it's even worse than like laplus or gura
>>27378198Vtubers don't cost anything to maintain. There's a reason no vtuber companies fire low performers, once you've paid the upfront cost of the model it's basically all profit. If you could viable recycle the model it would be a different story, but Kizuna Ai put an end to that possibility. So if you fire someone, you're just out the cost of all their assets, it's pointless.
>>27368682Mentally ill
>>27378216That's because she is a kid
>>27378216She is probably the youngest current Hololive member, if rrats are true about her actual age. Like, just straight out of High-school.
>>27378216She is a child. Even the other HoloID treat her like a child.
>>27376625VSinger thread is anti holo for some reason.or maybe just has some anti holo schizos.