総長 + 会長

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For the ケイソン組 and 桐生会
Previous: >>27582017

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I get physically ill just thinking about all the amazing collabs that are now ruined because of how she has behaved. All those streams tainted by her treachery. Reprehensible.

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>>27652543
booba

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>>27653101
Then die we not care

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>>27653101
>physically ill
You sure you are not mentally ill? :v

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She should put some clothes on. It’s cold in the bottom of the ninth circle.

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>>27653940
Anon you're so cute at being chunibyon and all. *Muak* ;)

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Take your meds, Henry.

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Mystic shield oji-san is back for Ouija Shark 2
https://twitter.com/landshark202008/status/1544879013252177921?t=gjKadO1jhORwArg7k1RZiQ&s=19

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>>27653101
I laugh at holoturds still whining. Her joining vshojo was in the works the moment Aqua started pushing coco out of the company. You only have yourselves to blame

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>>27655030
Stop replying to yourself lol

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>>27655030
>Her joining vshojo was in the works the moment Aqua started pushing coco out of the company.
I have to hear the explanation of this one.

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>>27655300
It’s just schizo speak, ignore it and it will go away

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hope she's nice and well rested

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>>27655300
Chink antis rrat that Aqua kill Coco in company for them

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>>27658023
*kills Coco*
*also stops streaming after Coco is gone*
As expected of the genius intellect out of China

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>intellect
>China

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>>27658144
4 hours in, you're still doing your schizo speak and sameflagging huh

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>>27652543
I only came here for the boobs

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Imagine siding with China because other companies exist. Were people expecting her to go back to Holo at some point? She got picked up by a company who doesn't bend the knee to chinks.

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>>27658144
On the bright side the Aquaschizos indirectly ended 99% of the spam, without them they would still be going.

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>>27659917
I feel sorry for Aqua (and for all of them involved, of course), she especially really got stuck between all sorts of insane people. Propped up by China as a tool, got all sorts of wackjobs from the Apex crowd, and then all the normal vtuber antis she collected along the way as the nijikiller. Not really sure what's going on her now, but it doesn't seem good.

At least Ru and Coco found a place to be.

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>>27660089
Go back to Aqua's POV for the 2020 Minecraft Sports fest. Watch how she immediately turned her camera away as soon as Coco came into focus of her screen. It's before the start of the obstacle course.

I legit have no idea how people can just ignore this.

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>>27661569
That's some high level schizo conspiracy thought, maybe wear a tin-foil hat next time.

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>>27662237
Mmm...Souchou flavored tea.

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>>27662205
Form a thought after you watched it...and if you are that scared, wear a tin foil hat before you watch it, too.

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>>27652543
traitor

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>>27662539

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>>27662782
Cute!!

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>>27652543
sauce?

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GNMF, stream tonight?

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>>27664374
Imagine if she didn't nerf the memes she choose

[Anonymous No.]

Most likely still jetlagged and tiered from playing ark whole night

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>>27666382
She didn't play ARK.

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>fast bait thread in catalog
>This thread became comfy
I think i found new meta.

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>>27668204
(Me) too comfy, don't tell me you are there replying to schizos.

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Travel report onegai

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>>27668561
Let the girl rest.

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>>27668645
I have severe withdrawal symptoms...

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>>27668729
Just go watch archive if it's withdrawal from hearing her voice. It's a little more than 2 weeks since she last played a game...and we are looking at another chit-chat stream to talk about her experience about overseas. That's like 4 consecutive chit chat streams if true.

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>>27669141
Maybe I should build a Perfect grade kits to distract myself.

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>>27653940
She is not Kusunoki Sio. Hololive is thriving and blooming.

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>>27655030
Take your meds

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I love this bitch and her big round butt.

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Imagine if she got that Adidas sponsorship now...it would have all been worth it.

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>>27673286
If only...

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Sex with Kumichou

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:3

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>>27676536
Can't wait for them to breed another baby dinasour together in ark, i wonder how will they name it this time.

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>>27676856
do you have more of these Coco x Rushia fanart?

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>>27676892
I also have this one but haven't checked danbooru or gelbooru for hololive fanart in a long time

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>>27676536
they should live together.

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>>27676936
thanks

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>can't watch kson
>have to watch /vt/ seethe endlessly about kson
Pain...

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>>27676892

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>>27677347
Anon you don't have to watch anything, it's your choice to read chink discord threads when you could be doing something productive with that time.

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>>27676892
here's more

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>>27676892
and more

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Sakura Miko wants to visit LA with kson!

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>>27677485
Is Mike catto taller than Kumichou?

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>>27677673
dunno. does anyone even know mikeneko's real height? pretty sure kson is 152cm

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vshojo

lmfao

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>>27677673
I think I heard somewhere that mike is a whole head taller then kson

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>>27677758
~170cm? That'd be wild. A colossus by Japanese standards.
It's so strange to think of her as some looming giant casting a shadow on everyone else around her.

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>>27676856
Can't wait for them to breed another baby together with me.

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>>27677735
>lmfao
you don't belong in here tourist

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>>27678034

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>>27678261
I love these

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>>27663214
https://twitter.com/tomomemeri/status/1544693702026702853

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>>27677673
Wtf really? Jeezus

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https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ401297.html/?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=sns_link&utm_content=RJ401297&utm_source=none

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Kson will corrupt Vshojo

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>>27680533
how awful
they'll have to be entertaining now instead of being horny all the time

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I miss kson...

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She's never going to play Final Fantasy again, is she?

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>>27652543
files.catbox.moe/6rrc78.mp4

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stream tomorrow
I can feel it!

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>no one gave shit about him in the bait thread

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>>27684503
Good thing that you did then, we can always count on you to react to every tourist.

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>>27684572
You're welcome.

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>>27684451
The important part is where do you feel it? if it's in your heart it's probably just wishful thinking

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>>27684853
I just want a reason to get up in the morning...

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I wheelbarrowed her and am glad I did.

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>>27684985
Watch archives

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>>27685050
it's just not the same
I rewatched the 3D debut 18 times btw

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>>27685105
Well you have like 40 mirrors of her 3D stream , it's cute seeing indies cry for her.

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>>27684186
I don't think so. It's not a good stream game, mostly just grind.

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>>27684356
Good effort but it isn't the gotcha you think it is. You should do yourself a favor and look up 個人勢 vs 企業勢 vtubers on JP Google and it will be clear that her explanation makes sense in Japanese. You're basically just seething over a literal translation that doesn't make perfect sense when taken out of its cultural context.

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>>27686632
Yeah it's used differently. Also coming from music the term Indie is also misused way too often that it kinda lost some meaning.

Even 個人勢 and 企業勢 are inconsistent and not really not defined.
If you go by the legal form the channel, it's clearer, because kson would still count as 個人事業主

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>>27685903
Sad. Maybe if she played one of the more story-focused ones like 4 or 7.

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gundams are nice and all but I want kson to get into RC stuff like cars and helicopters

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Gundams are nice and all but I want Kson to get into Digimon

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>>27687535
Digimon Survive comes out at the end of the month too. Imagine if she streamed it. And her team ends up being all the Bancho digimon.

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>>27687663
How dare you give me the hopes for this kino I didn't even know I wanted

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who still sleeps next to their plug in type asacoco pillow every night?

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>>27687190
for me, it's building the 1/350 Yamato by Tamiya

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>>27689440
I regret not getting it. Only merch I ever bought is the daimon.

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>>27689440
>>27689550
I never bought coco merch but it worked out I'm the sentimental type, if I bought any merch I know I would have felt like shit whenever I saw it

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https://files.catbox.moe/qsobpa.mp4

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Can Gunrun send her to space?

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Reminder Coco is owned by Cover corp and off topic, it has nothing to do with Kson and vshojo

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>>27691703
yes

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>>27692468
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>>27692519
Ok chink

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best thing he can retort with is "no u"

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>>27692642
>deleted
Ah chingochongu
Coco is a Cover owned IP and has nothing to do with Kson you leech.

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>>27692710
the chinese have won if I cant post the bugspray
i cry for freedom

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just her image is bugspray

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This is hololive thread?

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>>27692906
her? That's a character owned by cover, I think you're confused

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>he can't read kanji

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>>27693024
>calls someone a chink
>can't read kanji lol
As expected from a kson turd

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>he can't understand english either

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>>27693196
You seething won't change the fact you're posting off topic hololive images in a vshojo thread

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>>27693196
At least he always comes at the same time

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>>27693269
Wrong thread, go here: >>27685949

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>>27693269

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Pekomarine collab tonight bros

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>>27693461
Wrong thread >>27688558

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>>27693511
This is the holo thread look at all the holo images

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Aqua stream doko

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Towa...

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Twap...

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Towaffle <3

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>"trolling" by being unable to read the subject and then bumping the thread during dead hours
Interesting strategy

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>>27686632
>>27687122
You guys are fighting a losing battle. For all of vtuber history so far the definition always have been
>corporate: with the support of a corporation
>Indie: without the support of a corporation

It never had anything to do with "being owned", specially because the Cyberlive girls that moved to Phase Connect weren't "owned" either, they left with their channels, models and all rights.

kson gave the best explanation she could give to explain her new relationship with VShojo but calling herself an "indie" is a slap in the face of every single indie she tried to help along the way so far, in the
>you and I, we are not so different after all
sense.

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>>27694093
now my friend, tell me, who cares?

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>>27694161
Nobody should, her audience might, specially if it ends up becoming an internet battle of

>she lied when she said she wouldn't join a corpo
>no she didn't, VShojo is not a corpo
>yes it is, it says right here at their own site
>but she's not owned
>neither were the Cyberlive girls, but they were still at a corpo

It is already hard enough to be the target of a whole swarm of bugs because of things you didn't even say or done, trying to defend kson here because of things she clearly mispoke might demoralize part of her fanbase.

I wish she didn't try to "walk the fine line" of semantics and simply came clean
>being an indie is hard, having the support of a company allows me to fulfill my biggest projects

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There's no way that our regular pet schizo is not chinese, i mean, his posts past few days were low iq copy paste replies, short, sometimes unintelligible Those chunni ones have that "digging potato in Syberia" chang poem vibes, can't even write proper English, and longer sentences are literal machine translations.
He can't even properly bait(that's kinda cute desu)

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>>27694093
>It never had anything to do with "being owned"
Literally the every time Kson talked about corporate vs. indie vtubers it was about IP ownership and the corpo dictating the vtuber's content.

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>>27694332
you are most likely arguing with someone who snipped part of that vod transcriptions and has been arguing about semantics for 5 days.

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>>27694332
>>27694421
Then the (now defunct) Cyberlive girls were all as indies as kson used to be, despite being with Cyberlive?
If you told this to anybody even in this very thread two weeks ago you would call them retards.

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>>27694549
I have no idea what the fuck Cyberlive is but if the talents retained ownership of their IP and channels, didn't have their content restricted by any corporate entities, and were allowed to just leave the organization whenever they wanted, then yes, they are basically indies in the Japanese sense.

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man, i couldn't care less

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>>27694739
>they are basically indies in the Japanese sense.
"Basically X in the japanese sense" surely sounds like they're not X

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I understand Chinese and Japanese confusion because Vshoujo system could not exist in this world.

I think Vshoujo like Vtuber service provider to Indie who buy Vshoujo service by let Vshoujo use Kson's IP

She really Indie in JP standard
> If Vshoujo is no more, Kson still exist but if Hololive is no more every Hololive members die with Hololive.
>They can't force Kson doing something she doesn't want unlike corpo Vtuber
> Vshoujo let Kson dealth with drama by herself. They are not intervent.

And etc.

She really is indie by Jp standard.
She just buy Vshoujo service.

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>>27694093
>>27694739
>>27695013
There's a dedicated thread for this argument: >>27671401

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>>27695013
Only if you don't know what the word "basically" means. If they own their own IP like an indie and make whatever content they want like an indie, they're an indie.

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>>27695510
> Let Vshoujo use Kson's Ip for selling merch.

TLDR
Vshoujo is Vtuber service provider company and Kson is customer and indie vtuber

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>>27691703
for a 10cm cubsat that will be $40000 plus tip
probably talking about a weather balloon or maybe a microgravity simulating falling airplane if he wanted her to suffer

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>>27695673
this argument will never end, cause
you want to tell that Kson is independent
and other anon wants to you admit that she is corpochuuba
so i have a solution, let's make a new(not so, it happened before, but mostly failed experiments) breed of vtubers
a, Indie-Corpochuuba
has the benefits of a corpom while remaining her idividual rights for content and IP

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>>27695510
>>27695768
>Vshoujo is Vtuber service provider company
That would be true if they provided service in teh open market, and if they hadn't held auditions.

I don't think a service provider holds auditions

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>>27695790
That is the exact chain of thoughts that went through my head: "Could be a cubesat, but more likely a hydrogen balloon into the mesosphere or something."

>>27696030
Service providers can still be selective in who they provide services to. In my early career, I was a independent consultant, but I wouldn't take every client.
Also, Kson didn't audition.

>>27695768
It also sounds very similar to what she had described wishing she could do around this time last year. When we asked she would always say "I don't want to start an agency, but I want to help other vtubers, so something like that" (this is my paraphrasing, not a direct quote).

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>>27696217
People don't usually use their service providers name to identify themselves or hand over business cards with their service providers written on it.

There is a much simpler theory to justify why kson is so hellbent into remain "an indie": lots of gaming companies (for instance) have blanket permissions for individual streamers but require written permission for corporate streamers to play their games.
Fromsoft, for instance, is one of those.

VShojo girls get away with it because Twitch is no man's land and there is no enforcement one way or another but Youtube is different and you can genuinely lose your channel with three strikes.
I believe she might be tested on youtube very soon depending on her choice of games and whether or not the gaming companies will have the same interpretation of "indie" they do
>she would win on court
Likely yes, but Youtube enforcement is outside the legal system, they just strike and are done with it.

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>>27696999
That is plausible, and I agree that it may be an interesting test. However, I think the "go to court" discussion is a distraction, but I see you also understand that?

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>>27697192
>I think the "go to court" discussion is a distraction
It's an hypothetical. Most of the times these things are settled out of court one way or another, either because the weaker party rolls, or because the stronger party knows they can't win in court but can punish the weaker party in some other way.

Japan is, metaphorically and literally a very insular country in a culture entirely based on tatemae and interpersonal connections.
Losing favor with one japanese company may end up being the same as losing favor with the entire japanese segment of the market of that company, due to the fact these CEOs all come from the same cloth of society.

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>>27697192
>>27697671
That's what, incidentally, fucked Cover in 2020 and the timeline is more or less like this
>girls play fast and loose with permissions for games (or lack thereof)
>Pekora makes 100 000+ USD playing MGS without permission (among all other games the girls played monetized)
>Konami gets peeved and likely contact Cover behind the scenes to tell them to get permission
>Cover likely ignores them
>Konami CEO makes a few phone calls to Nintendo CEO, start court proceedings to sue Cover, and Capcom CEO, which gives two strikes on Mio channel and warns Cover that if they have to join Nintendo suit they're giving her and every other Cover channel that played Capcom games the three strikes
then
>Cover go full "SHUT IT DOWN", archive everything and dogeza so deep it took a crane to get them out

In the end, all they wanted was to Cover to ask for written permission and all of those companies CEOs forgiven Cover
(except Konami, whose games are still off limits for Cover chuubas)

I don't know exactly what the legal arrangement VShojoJP has or if they have any real stake in Japan but the same phonecall to Nintendo CEO could easily be placed to Goodpartner CEO, and goodbye Nyanners Nendo, to give an example

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>>27696030
Service provider can selective about customer. Service have cost

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>>27697814
You don't put your service provider name in your business card

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Was it really necessary to smack her?

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>>27698067
Necessary? No.
Effective? Definitely.

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>>27697886
You do in the entertainment industry.

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>>27698180
I'm curious. Can you provide an example? It must fit the same criteria anons used to describe an "indie"
>no contract
>doesn't restrict in any way
>person keeps their name, likeliness and the output of their work

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>>27697886
They put Logistic service provider name as partner often anon.

Like delivered by DSL or EVERGREEN

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>>27698592
This analogy is getting dumber by the minute.
A person showing at your house working in her independent capacity won't introduce himself as
>Hi, I'm Joe Professional, from <service provider X> / on behalf of <service provider X> / aided by <service provider X> / transported by <service provider X>
or any variation you can imagine without giving the impression he's acting on their behalf and not in an individual capacity

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>>27698948

not the same anon but:
the agreement she has with vshojo is to be able to use her name, it doesn't make sense to put it together with theirs for publicity purposes?
it's not that hard to understand

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>>27698240
Every actor you've ever heard of, Bao, most large streamers.

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Found two retards that clipped that stream.
an EOP who can't read: https://youtu.be/qA1h_QoCm-A
and a complete mallicious japanese one:
https://youtu.be/epmCNUlNtuU
He cutted the bottom part who says "kirinuki kinshi" and didn't link the original stream in the description.
Help reporting them to manechan if you have twitter.

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>>27700667
Ok

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>>27694052
I don't have to try because your whore (not coco btw) ruine your threads for eternity
Cucks going full bootlicker for vshojo "it's not a company, she's just explaining it for the Japanese" and sane people calling you out
How's it feel? Day by day the existence of Coco fades, her life as a vwhorejo expands and you'll be rubbing shoulders with ironic weeb garbage from twitch

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>>27701112
You mean insane people who can't understand about " service provider" and " outsourcing"?

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>>27701192
ISPs aren't companies now? Keep going tho I'm gonna eat pizza.

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>>27701192
Also outsourcing is a company hiring another company to make something or provide something ESL

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>>27700667
>Nooo don't point out her lies, that's illegal!

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>>27701274
>I hired an ISP so I work for Comcast now

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>>27700667
I don't have Twitter, thank you for finding these though.

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>>27701390
t.Red Crewmate
A fucking chumpedo

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>>27701435
So how much is she paying them?
Oh and Comcast makes plushies of your image too?
It's actually hilarious she has the exact same position now as she did as an independent contractor with Cover, only her model and channel are owned by her because she paid for them but Vshitshow isn't a company!

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>>27701112
>How's it feel?
Good. I get to watch my bitch build gundams on two platforms while you continue to seethe over Nyanners deleting that loli song 15 years ago.
>>27701569
>an independent contractor with Cover
She was an employee of Cover. You can't pretend to have the moral high ground when you say lies like that.

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>>27700397
>Every actor you've ever heard
Holy shit, actors don't have restrictions and contractual obligations while under contract to make movies?
Johnny Depp got released from every contract he had including one of the the largest multimedia franchises built on his back not even because of anything he said, but because of things that were said about him.
Awful example

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>>27701802
>employee
retard take a basic course on employment law or business

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>>27700667
I would find it absolutely ironic that a streamer that is now broadcasting videos without the permission of their owners (and reacting to them) would strike an unmodified clip of something of hers for not having permission to broadcast

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>>27698067
>>27698115
>Literally BrightSlapped the menhera out of her

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>>27698240

>no contract

See, I seriously doubt there is literally no contract involved, that's impossible. Also I'm quite sure that Vshojo can fire a talent, if it ever came to that.

I think it would be more accurate to say that Vshojo is a very hands-off Vtuber corp, and unlikely to mettle much, and of course they most importantly don't claim any IP rights on the Vtuber character should they go their separate ways. Which is very generous, but should be noted essential to their primary business model of picking up established Vtubers instead of building up nobodies.

In every other way though, I doubt they're all that different from a standard corp, if we're being real here. Different policies, different contract, still a corp.

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>>27701808
I'm talking about agents you literal child. An actor's business card has their agency's contact info, not Disney's. Christ.

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>>27701569
whatever they earn in merchandise sales, you didn't see the video? you're talking about something you didn't even bother to watch?
and by the way, kson can make his own merchandise without any relation with VS.

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>>27702072
>>>27699767

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>>27701883
>>27701472

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>>27702099
That's not how service providers work though? If Vshojo wants to run their own merchandise they will without any input from her, while a service provider enters a contract to produce for a person with revenue splitting or upfront lump payments.
You're a dirty ESL.

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>>27702344
>VShojo's contract, which I haven't read, is different from the one in this hypothetical situation I made up, so it's a company.
Good thing we got an expert businessman to clear this all up.

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>>27701883
>unmodified
>cuts the bottom part who says to not clip

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>>27702728
Now there's a contract? Lol.

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>>27702966
I guess your mom was the one who contracted the internet at your house.

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>>27702966
I am not >>27702728, but can you think of a reason there would not be a contract? That's how two entities do business. You need a contract when you are contracting business services. Hell you need a contract when you are getting individual services. Unless you are a minor or fully-dependent NEET, almost certainly have a few dozen contracts of your own.

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>>27703138
She said there's no contract :)

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>>27703245
I do not believe you.

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>Guys, you don't understand, I'll clarify the situation, I'm still independent
>And by the way, don't clip this
She doesn't seem that concerned about putting things right if controlling the narrative is more important than getting the word out there
>Dude, I didn't fuck your wife, but don't quote me on that lmao

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Indie - independent
Himari Mochizuki - indie
Kson - not independent

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Do you think she saw some Holo friends when she went to LA?

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Kson is cute

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>>27701569

The major difference between Holo and vShojo:

The talent at vShojo own their own IP in their vTuber identity, and provide a license to the gunrun team to promote them, etc., etc.

Holo owns the IP in the vTuber identities of their talent, and give a license to the talent.

If Silvervale were to leave vShojo, she still gets to "be" Silvervale. Not so much Coco or Rushia.

There are surely many other differences in the respective contracts, but the vShojo model reserves far more autonomy to their talent. It resembles much more a joint venture or teaming agreement than anything else. Even though the platform is smaller, it's an easier situation for Kson, since she will continue to have more bargaining power as the relationship continues.

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Architecture

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>>27704084
if any of them played ARK, yes

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>>27652543
Not long left before kson will be put in the vshojo containment thread.

She gets what she deserved. Joining that band of hypocrites and saying she was never going to join another corpo.

Hope the money selling out to Melody was worth it.

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>>27704392
Someone should make a bootleg version of cocodoll he would make millions

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it's funny how everytime the IP count went above 40, the thread turns into dogshit with all these idiots complaining about her still being an indie.

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27704644
(You)

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I want to apologize to the chinks, altough they sperged out for reasons I don't give a shit about, they were harrassing the right person

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ogey

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>>27704940
I don't like fubuki too

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kson living rent free in anti’s heads i see

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I will pay kson to live in my head

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>>27703245
Where did she say this? I, like the other anon, find this highly unlikely. There is probably some sort of contract on percentage of sales, merch, additional things laid out so that you can point out the T&Cs to keep it fair. No one would encourage a lack of contract, that's real shady shit. If anything she probably said there is no contract as it pertains to her activities rather than legal/monetary stuff.

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>>27705948
Literally first minutes of the stream everyone is mad about

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>>27705574
It’s funny when you realize behind every retarded post there’s a crying chink furiously posting over and over in the thread like his life depended on it.

Anywhere here’s a cute pic of my french wife, hope they collab again soon.

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Alright enough anti posting. Delta confirmed Kson approached her, they are friends in discord and they want to do collabs.

What kind of collab would you want to see?

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>>27706604
It's funny when you realize SEAchinks are calling anyone with a basic grasp of the English language a chink because they know Vshojo is a company.

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>>27706644
Karaoke offcollab

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>>27706604
Boy that as a quick reply, it seems being called a chink really angers him.
>>27706755
This, give me an utawaku

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>>27706644
>Delta confirmed Kson approached her
Recently? She could join VS if she ask Kson first, but she has to come forward first...

I would like a karaoke collab, triangle singing since while kson sekkuhara the shit out of her

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>>27706791
Korone is in hololive not vshitshow and hates Kson

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>>27706791
Chinks always get angry at being called chinks because they actually think they blend in.

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>>27706934
She would unironically hate you.

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>>27706644
>Triangle girl fumbling over engrish as souchou forces her to sing Ariana Grande songs
Kino af

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>>27706604
<3

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>>27707017
Don't care, stop trying to leech hololive you failure lovers

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>>27707110
go sleep manchild

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>>27707228
I thought I was a chink?
Either way never leech holos again you vwhorejo cuck

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>>27707015
He’s really angry now, i’m worried for any dogs that might be near him now.

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>>27707082
>>27706604
Cute, whats she from?

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If people dislike Kson, do they realize they can just not come to this thread?
Or is their intelligence really room temperature?

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>>27707308
We will "leech" as much as we want because Kson built that garbage company from nothing single handedly by shitting on incel idol shit zhang

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>>27706604
I'm not a slant eyed bat eating gook, I'm from Albania and I hate whores

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>>27707308
cope and seethe

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>>27707424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSMxsfL5wbY

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>>27707428
Chinks aren't know for being particularly smart.

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>>27707500
Korone will never talk to your whore again
Leech leech leech

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What a meltdown, poor lad

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>>27707564

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It's actually pathetic you latch onto hololive so hard when she wasn't even with them for 2 years
I guess it was the only time in her life she wasn't a failure
Soon over 90% of her fans won't even know who Coco is
You're not even acknowledged by her anymore lol

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Coco will never leave this page no matter how much you cry about it, have a nice day!
https://hololive.hololivepro.com/talents

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>>27707981
Coco is Kson's oshi

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>>27707536
I’ve rewatched this one 3 times, there’s something about kson collabing with people that idolize her that makes me feel tingly inside, it’s like a rockstar going on a tour and playing with indie bands that grew up with her music.

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>>27708075
I got the same feeling when she collabed with Hana

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>>27708022
Yeah because you cling to her only relevance
She'll still never talk to holos again, be near them, talk about Coco, etc.

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>>27708054
That's actually Ironmouse you bigot

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>>27707645
This is our best pet thread yet, the last one usually left when we laughed at him enough, this one gets more and more angry instead.

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>>27708251

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>>27707981
She's better off without them and without the retarded corpo rules, just look at the average hololive whore and tell me that they produce interesting content

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>>27708394
>>27708440
Then never leech from them again

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>>27708528

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>>27708394
Rika a cute

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Isn't this the chink that is all day on /jp/ larping as an european? he's literally all day on 4chan posting about my wife and it's been like this for half a year.

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>>27708614
You're literally just chinks now
Enjoy your anti hololive crusade while desperately begging for attention from them

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>>27708725
The “kleech” chink? lmao

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>>27708725
Is it autism?

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>>27708787
didn't read.

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>>27708794
Who knows, trying to understand mental illness is pointless, one's thing for sure though, he's completely mindbroken.

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I want to believe that Kson will not lead Vshojo to destroy Hololive. I want to believe that she's still an indie/Holo at heart, and to her Vshojo is just a service for merch and networking. I want to believe that Vshojo Jp will be its own thing under her full control, and will be just like the comfy 2view-saving Kson Gang we had last year. I want to believe in her promise as YAGOO and Hololive knelt to her on her graduation to come back in glory. I want to believe in her wish, that through her, there will be no more distinction between corporate and indie.
I want to believe that she's still my Vtuber Jesus.

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>>27708850
Just like no one will read Kson's obituary in 6 months

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>>27708869
At least the thread won't die while I'm asleep

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>>27708945
Take your meds, Henry.

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>>27709039
Thought I was a chink lmao

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>>27709089
Not even knowing who you are isn't a good sign. Try a hospital.

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>>27709146
It means your cope that this isn't alienating everyone is just that.

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>>27708989
Good point, no need to bump the thread when we have our own personal chink crying on a minute cooldown

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>>27709229
You are unironically having a psychotic episode. You need a doctor. I'm not even joking. Get help.

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>>27708725
it's really easy to track their twitter accounts, the funny thing is that most of them are trannys.
I guess hiding that shit from society is really stressful for them, that's why they are so fucked up.

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Don't let our thread die~ gotta sleep now
ganbare~~

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>>27709302
Yea sure kid

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>>27709364
My sides, these chink freaks really are the gift that keeps on giving.

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>>27677193
they kinda did for a while, before kson moved her and kanata were in the same building as rushia. if you look back they actually spent quite a lot of time together off stream, even after she graduated. they both talked about it a lot

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>>27706644
can I get a confirm on this? when did kson reach out to her?

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>>27709687
Vshojo headcanon
Just like "she still talks to holos(besides the one she's abandoning)"

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>>27709770
Turn off the computer, go to the doctor.

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>>27709828
Are you saying she does talk to them? roru

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>>27709945
Tell your doctor about how you know what a woman you've never met does.

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>>27708362
Coco is Kson' oshi anon

Source

Kson x Leto collab

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>She will never play Holocure
PAIN

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>>27710001
The biggest cope lmao
No one talks about her or thinks about her besides Kanata and Haachama

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>>27710013
I’d rather she play Life’s Strange or The Quarry

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>>27710013
thats because she doesnt want to, what is cover gonna do if she plays it? fire her?

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>>27708916
> She want to save Hololive by create potential competitor in JP Vtuber industry.

>Cover's board of content can rot in hell

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>>27708945
> We exist

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>>27710139
Interesting, your doctor will want to hear about that.

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>>27710426
>to destroy evil, I became evil
Real life isn't Code Geass, mate.

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>>27710426
>> She want to save Hololive by create potential competitor in JP Vtuber industry.
unironically competition pushes corporations to be better. if they can't just fire you and have you vanish, they will actually take firings more seriously. every person they push out now is going to be able compete with them still so they have to tread more carefully or risk making their own worst enemy.
in the same way that a union in your field (even if you dont belong to it) increases wages for your whole sector, -people- having more leverage over corporate greed and malfeasance is always a good thing

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>>27710814
> Real life can be more anime than anime itself

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>>27710844
This

> In the end, Kson help her friends in Hololive to have more bargain ship in Hololive for fight with Cover's board of content.
> If Hololive is lose, they can live as indie and Kson will stay in VshoujoJP for helping them.

> She loves her friends

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>>27711452
i mean content board aside, I can imagine a bunch of the talents are like "wait, they take HOW much of a cut? AND THEY GET TO KEEP THEIR IP?"

people wanna pretend like only hololive can do what hololive does but VShojo has put on concerts as well and their presence at Cons does more interesting things. having the talent wheeled around the show floor is seriously such a great idea and the execution keeps getting better and better.

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>>27711625
They have never put on a concert

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>>27711625
They showed an interesting video about having the girls wheeled around AX and I want to know so much more. Gunrun just offhandedly mentioned setting up his own network in AX so they had a stable connection despite what I'm sure was mountains of interference in AX.

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>>27711625
Its been a few days and already you guys have drank the vshojo delusion juice lmao

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>>27711712
Realized I probably should've linked the video. But yeah I'm curious how they did that even if I definitely wouldn't understand it because I don't know shit about networking. https://twitter.com/VShojoOfficial/status/1544832580205379584

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>>27711452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-KgZY8NAYo

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>>27711712
Gunrun is a wizard. I remember like a decade ago I was watching an esports tournament (I think MLG) and the internet in their venue died, and Gunrun singlehandedly saved it by calling in some satellite trucks to get the streams back online.

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>>27711653
>Kizuna Ai collab
They literally had a concert with THE very definition of Vtuber

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>>27711625
Talents being independent also means it can unironically the company with the best rigging on models around. It's far from the most important thing but the immediate quality difference watching Kson vs. literally any Holo or Niji is amazing. I was just watching Mouse do Speak of the Devil with Shu and oh my god the Niji boys have some god awful rigging.

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>bugs are so buttmad at kson being successful and not 'fading into irrelevancy' that they're trying to be shitty lawyers in a system they dont actually understand, and argue about the definition of words they probably don't know the meaning of.

And they're going around in circles. It was funny for the first 5 days, now its just sad.

I want it to be the 16th already for office lady son.

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>>27711814
> You must have high IQ enough for understand Coco/Kson action.

She is master about communicate with her fan in subtle and cryptic way

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>>27712150
You wanna know who did the technical stuff?

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jesus I go to /jp/ to read up on the Shinzo Abe shit and the thread is so shitty wtf. Stop getting baited retards.

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>>27712513
Me too

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>>27712513
You aren't a hololive fan

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>>27712513
I like you, buttonposter.
I also pray for OLson.

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She said it's summer themed

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Bassd, Abe is dead, I'm sure Kson is hyped this will make it easier for her to take over old jp corporations

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Are the chinamen still raiding this thread? I wish I could help but we got rid of our antis and bugs by being autistic schizophrenics and wife posting and I'm guessing that doesn't really fly here. Just remember every (you) they don't get drops their social credit score.

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Casón...

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https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1545276964457844736

Stream today at 21:00 I guess?

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Who do you think she will join Kson from Nijisanji/Anycolour from the future?

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>>27709687
Thread's about to reach the limit, but one of Delta's streams a week or so ago confirmed Kson reached out to her for a collab, but their schedules didn't line up for an opportunity yet.

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>>27715451
The artist formerly known as Gibara.

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>>27715552
Who is Gibara ?

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>>27712977
> She will never show her feet again now she has a 3D and twitch coomer are lurking her
pain

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>>27715625
Otogibara Era, she was a pretty fun Niji talent who graduated just a month or two before Coco. She also ended up getting a long-planned new outfit in the week before her graduation.

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>>27706848
>Recently?
>>27709687
>can I get a confirm on this? when did kson reach out to her?

NTA but on June 13th, Delta did a Fanbox chatting stream where after saying
>"She's still having trouble talking to people."
https://litter.catbox.moe/gzezdg.png
A JP viewer then said, >"she should collab with Kson."
https://litter.catbox.moe/lsdmc0.png
To which she responded to the comment by saying
>"Kson did approach her for a collab but delta was busy
when Kson reached out and thus she couldn't collab with her then."
https://litter.catbox.moe/6ulv1r.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVe2_-LMRXI&t=6500s
But even then Delta repeats by saying,
>"she gets nervous when talking to people if not aggressive
when getting close to people and gets more nervous
when talking to other women."
https://litter.catbox.moe/8dlzt8.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/e3bu4v.png

Other than that, that's all I can recall atm.

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>>27716054
Doesn't she have a chinaman mod? That is why she cannot really collab with kson.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOTy_4Okvpo

6 hours

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>>27716249
If this dumb bitch streams over Abe dying she's really too far gone

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>>27716157
Please wake up to reality anon, not all Chinese are crazed political mob. It's like stereotyping the left side of America are SJW land whales.

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>>27716443
She's celebrating that now nobody is gonna tell her to marry and reproduce, what a delinquent.

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>>27716443
Only older japs care about politics.

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>>27716443
So is the rest of Hololive and Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27716443
Why do you worship Abe, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>new capture card
It's happening camera bros!

[Anonymous No.]

>>27716616
Please be 1080P

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>>27716157
Yes, a Chinese mod/translater but that's probably not the reason why she didn't collab with Kson.
Since Delta has been working hard to pursue her singing career. She's been busy working on projects and possible song covers i.e. the CH4NGE cover she did 2 months ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCBdr2oN2KE
And her getting medical checkups since she's been pushing her vocals a bit far.

In the end, I just hope Delta collabs with Kson at least once this year if possible.

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