/warkop/

[Anonymous No.]

عيد الأضحى Edition

>What is /warkop/ about?
A place to talk about Indonesian VTubers in general, but not just about their streams. We also talk about the Indonesian VTuber scene, whether it be rumors, numbers, market analysis, debuts, graduations, etc.

>Any rules in /warkop/?
I'm not a janny/meido, but:
>We do not talk about /warkop/
>Jaga budi pekerti. Don't be a dumbfuck, a cunt, or both
>No excessive politics and SARA talks. This is a thread for VTubers, not /pol/. We don't want jannies to prune (aka. delete) our threads
>Avoid using Indonesian for your own safety. Jannies might give you warnings or even bans for posting in Indonesian
>Have fun!

>So, /#/ but ID?
You can talk about numbers here, but don't be excessive.

>Is this an Indonesian containment general?
This general aims to be a place where Indonesians could talk about Indonesian VTubers freely and (hopefully) politely.

Recent happenings:
>ID VTuber scene continues to incline (for months already!)
>Indonesian viewers can now use Super Chat and Super Stickers
>Yume Reality releases Jolly Jungle, an orisong featuring Keroro Suika, Aika Meru, and Koguma Keiya
>Alterly's social media admin left Alterly. Recently, Alterly members aligns themselves with EVOS as a joke
>Karissa Sharlotte from Metanoia ID revealed her new outfit recently
>Hana Macchia promised to create an orisong if "Into Reality" reached 2 million views, and it indeed reached 2 million views. Layla Alstroemeria will reveal her new outfit today
>Elaine Celestia and Cecilia Liberia from Re:Memories opened their memberships recently.
>Minerva Rosaline's doxing "drama" ends "peacefully". Apparently, Serena and her friends (whom?) stopped doxing and left the "doxing circle". The person who shared Mine's real name has "moved on"

Resources:
ID VTuber List: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1C5SvTo6h4jqP4A7YQSi3U8B_KWU6omfOLNCkNg0kt08/htmlview

Previous Thread: >>27459293

[Anonymous No.]

>>27764189
>Layla Alstroemeria will reveal her new outfit today
that happened like a week ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>27765790
That's because the OP is not me, lel. I always make /warkop/ on noon. I mean, everyone could make /warkop/ threads, but I admit I am autistic enough to write updates on the ID community.
t. yer usual OP

[Anonymous No.]

faaakkkk i miss jura already faaaakkkk

[Anonymous No.]

Hyona morning free talk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcRyciGuX1g

Taka Cuphead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guxRTfKNcK8

[Anonymous No.]

>>27766243
oh okay. I haven't been on this board for a while so I don't what the fuck is going in here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27768673
It's fine. Here's an update to the Recent Happenings, by the way:
>ID VTuber scene continues to incline (for months already!)
>Indonesian viewers can now use Super Chat and Super Stickers
>After Jolly Jungle, Nemutaka Yuta from Yume Reality releases his own orisong, "Hari Terserdih Tanpamu"
>Alterly's social media admin left Alterly. Recently, Alterly members aligns themselves with EVOS as a joke
>AOI ID, an agency known for mass graduation of their second generation and sacking of their CEO opens an audition for their new gen from 1 until 17 July
>Azura Cecilia went into hiatus to move into her new place. Also bit of trivia, Airi Cordelia went to Singapore a few days ago
>Alia Adelia will get slaughtered in Idul Adha. Please express your condolences below
>Kobo Kanaeru is approaching 1 million subscribers!
It's a slow week, and I hope Miti will stream a lot in the coming weeks.

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>>27769005
okay, thank you. btw are there any ID vtubers who speak "easy" indonesian. I would like to learn the language, so I could understand them better.

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>>27769298
taka is easy to follow because he use formal language

[Anonymous No.]

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA.

Ooooooo 4chan gods, i pray to thou. Please let this thread be free from any schizos.

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA, AMEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27769005
>Alia Adelia will get slaughtered in Idul Adha. Please express your condolences below
Assuming she didn't die from PMK already

[Anonymous No.]

>>27772941
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

Where is the wacanaposter? I want to suggest this for our chant
https://youtu.be/kL3NkdQ87qc

[Anonymous No.]

>>27775716

[Anonymous No.]

Since kobo receive noise complain yesterday by pak RT, I'm gonna tell every vtuber who lurking here that Indonesia is on their way making a new law about noise complaint.
>https//www.idntimes.com/news/indonesia/yosafat-diva-bagus/rkuhp-berisik-ganggu-tetangga-pada-malam-hari-bisa-didenda-rp10-juta?page=all

[Anonymous No.]

>>27777111
>8 million
That's too much

[Anonymous No.]

>>27775716
Kek, good one, I'll add it
anyways

>Timnas wacanaposting anchor time
>Interested in helping /warkop/ to join vtl3? Join /vt/league ruangguru and learn new things like tactics, modelling and many more!
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_3

I'm still waiting for your votes on our goalhorns until probably when this thread got archived
https://cryptpad.fr/form/#/2/form/view/TIu1sHxZXhgb3CkLQt7qhL2rmTCNBBkOvxA75Dt0w8A/

The results from your votes should be revealed not long after pemilu ends in our brand new team wiki here, also please check our lineups in picrel and give it a (You) if you want to say something about it
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//warkop/

>Also if you got chants, please (You) this post and I'll add them below
>Jedag Jedug Vtuber Toxic
https://youtu.be/cyMUSpLV32E
>Kobo Tempest introduction
https://youtu.be/c5xn9idw4wg
>Early Moona songs
https://youtu.be/N_1xVr7wp6Q
https://youtu.be/4-wpqxD7Az8
>Kobo Edgelord
https://youtu.be/YDBLs_0SnPQ
>Selia Batang Hitam
https://youtu.be/kL3NkdQ87qc

[Anonymous No.]

>>27766243
I always wanted to make the thread but then I remembered that you can make it better with the recent happenings, something that I can't do because I can't keep track with the up to date news.

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>>27778652
i think you copy the wrong chant list, it's missing a couple suggestions from last thread
>Nia Cicak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCi0cxSSqvk
>Rachie ID cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV-3ETmEIBI
>Kobo tiktok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivvxuHWWdiU
>holoslebew
https://twitter.com/moonahoshinova/status/1541268844429582337

[Anonymous No.]

>>27772805
AMEN

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>>27777111
Can it be applied to mosque's loudspeakers?
Not trying to being up /pol/ topics here, but sometimes adzan can be a hindrance in the middle of streams.

Also that KUHP is full of problems, there's going to be a lot of lawsuits in the Constitutional Court and a lot of revisions, maybe it's going to be fully effective years after it get passed by the parliament.

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I'd like to ask, what do you guys think of this in Indonesian settings
>creative freedom
It seems to be a hot debate in the catalog but let's discuss it in local corpos because we know that if we give them too much and you'll become stagnant like NijiID, but give them less and you'll find your talents reincarnate as indies like Yumes, so how we should look at talent freedom in ID?

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>>27780033
Ah right, that thread with no subject kek, thanks for digging that for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>27764189
that's a great quality cow

[Anonymous No.]

>>27780206
You can, but expect 100 people in front of you house on the next day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27777111

[Anonymous No.]

>>27780207
That case is pretty unique in indonesia, I can assure you that we have 95% of creative freedom from every agency even holoid, but it was the fans who gatekeeping them to fo anything wild because muh concern.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27777111
Rip dangdutan and home kondangan

[Anonymous No.]

Layla Alstroemeria explains the era of dinosaurs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVck1rcQ-tM

[Anonymous No.]

>>27780206
Of course, but you can gonna spend 5 years in prison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27778381
https://youtu.be/SL9xvwSRWoE

[Anonymous No.]

>>27780206
Adzan is supposed to be loud anon, that's a call for prayer.

[Anonymous No.]

Probably not that relevant to this thread. It kind of frustrate me that EOPs think having a boyfriend = not a virgin. Not everyone is having sex with their boyfriends, me included.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27780737
>Let them do whatever
There is this thing called law, small corpo and indies can get away with this, but not big corpo

[Anonymous No.]

>>27782160
it's useless to make a rant on vt anon, they are probably just white people being white or some lonely indog who has never been in a relationship before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27782160
of course it's still limited by law anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>27782877 (me)
meant for this >>27782185

[Anonymous No.]

>>27782160
>Not everyone is having sex with their boyfriends, me included.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27782160
Yes, just like never having a boyfriend means you're a virgin right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27782115
WTF??

[Anonymous No.]

>>27764189
Thanks for the sacrifice
t. /meat/

[Anonymous No.]

>>27780206
But mosque regulation act indeed exists tho and it regulates how mosques can't open their outer speaker past 10 pm and can't exceed several db ( I forget how much it is)

[Anonymous No.]

>>27785638 (me)
*and it regulates several things like how mosques

[Anonymous No.]

>>27785638
>regulation act
the "surat edaran" made by minister of religion?
there's no penalty for not following it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27778652
Wait, Miti didn't get gold or silver? or am i missing something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27764189
>not covering their hair

[Anonymous No.]

kobo is cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29EDHTLHe68

[Anonymous No.]

>>27786270
Eh it really doesn't have any penalty? Just when I thought they do something useful...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27786506
it's a cow, anon

[Anonymous No.]

they admited that they are cringe
https://twitter.com/Nara_Haramaung/status/1545703263970160640

[Anonymous No.]

>>27788017
they are cringe but they are free (maybe)

[Anonymous No.]

>>27788017
Anon, your readcomp reps...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27786321
You didn't, I'm just listing who's in with their formation, golds and silvers is up for discussion until next month, we still have plenty of time to decide our star players

[Anonymous No.]

>>27782395
Yeah
Nobody understands the Indonesian norm here. It's rude to assume the virginity status of a woman. Virgin is the default unless stated otherwise by the person herself. Western kumpul kebo and premarital sex are not strange or rare, many people are doing it, but its heavily discouraged by society, normally no person would brag about being non-virgin in Indonesia
>>27783259
Are you new to /warkop/?

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>>27791915
To be fair, most of their exposure to SEA is only through flips who already lost almost all of their SEA roots and heritage due to spics, nips and mutts

[Anonymous No.]

Bump

[Anonymous No.]

Xia playing Bully:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mHXZTZjnes

[Anonymous No.]

>pak rt warned her for being too noisy
>proceed to become a rock
Pretty smart stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>27799732
This bocil got a good head on her shoulders I give her that

[Anonymous No.]

>>27800648
????
anon....

[Anonymous No.]

>>27787222
WHORE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>27800747
What is it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27782160
the more i use this site, the more i feel detached to EOPs. i never get the hatred for discord and trans people here. like, every tech-savvy/weeb-ish indo teen has discord. my encounter with trans people has been rather decent, too

[Anonymous No.]

>>27802628
Newfag, go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>27803072
to where

[Anonymous No.]

>>27802628
as long as they shut their fucking mouth and mind their own bussiness, it's fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>27803304
Idk, i just use the buzzword

[Anonymous No.]

>>27802628
For the hate for trannies, just look at history of this site and you should understand. As for discordfags, iirc it has something to do with /vg/ but I'm not really sure since I almost never go to that board

[Anonymous No.]

>>27802628
Have you heard about websites called twitter and tumblr? I think you will meet more EOPs who are in tune with your interest, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>27764189
>File deleted
why

[Anonymous No.]

>>27805572
Basically, a discord server and a general on /vg/ serves the same purpose, so if a successful discord server actually gets made either A) all the regulars migrate to the server en masse, leaving the general a husk of itself, or B) drama that happens on the server spills over into the thread and ruin it for everyone, so over time people start having a negative view of discord users

And then of course because this is 4chan now people just hate discordfags because that's what people do on 4chan and they want to fit in

[Anonymous No.]

Eid Mubarak /warkop/!
Today we feast!

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>27819239
So, today we feast...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27764189
>deleted OP image
What was it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27810608
>>27822082
It was picrel but I'm not sure why it get deleted. Might have something to do with how jannies go ballistic for several days already and deleting some long-standing generals like /ag/, /meat/ and /ringo/

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>>27822945 (me)
Forgot the pic kek
https://i.warosu.org/data/vt/img/0277/64/1657328264192.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>27822945
>>27823040
If it gets deleted, just use pomf cat anon, it's kinda like catbox but with less MBs allowed per upload which sucks but if it's true that kikebookers aboosed it then what really can we do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27819239
>>27814582
RIP

It's feasting time anon!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>27802628
How is this reply relevant to my post?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27792898
You forgot the Thais. They are significantly more secular than us

[Anonymous No.]

>>27788017
What's her CCV again? Just give it up Nara, Niji ID is boring except Mika

[Anonymous No.]

>>27782160
Lol, most of the time people did it, I pity your boyfriend femanon

[Anonymous No.]

>>27823708
I know a out pomf but,I already link it to warosu in the spoiler

[Anonymous No.]

>>27829655
He never ask though
The most I could do is giving him sloppy handjob, but only if he ask for it which is never

[Anonymous No.]

>>27829655
It's not, it's just your circle and your acquaintances who happen to do that, most aren't. Indonesia is not only Jakarta or whatever city you're from.

I've read that in Japan, only around 30℅ nonmarried people are not virgins. That's Japan with its relatively free and westernized society. I doubt Indonesia has a higher percentage than that, I guess it's around 10-15%. You or your circles happen to be in the minority.

[Anonymous No.]

Any vtuber celebrating hari raya?
Also, selamat hari raya!

[Anonymous No.]

>>27830613
Kenyang makan lontong sayur

[Anonymous No.]

>>27829510
>Schizopost a hag
What a faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>27830613
Me
I ate Lontong kari atm

[Anonymous No.]

>>27829510

[Anonymous No.]

windahbrothers give me your energy!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>27832332
go back to /#/, burger-kun

[Anonymous No.]

>>27832725
they are aching to make a thread about it kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>27828851
If they think Thais are the norm of SEA, they would think trannies run this country and child prostitute is legal here, anon that's why I said it's flip and I also forgot to to mention sg who shape their perception of SEA + many expats from there move to the states

[Anonymous No.]

>>27836610
There are a lots of Viet too in the states

[Anonymous No.]

>>27836829
Eh really? I don't have many chances to interact with them. What kind of people are they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27814582
rip drunk embek

[Anonymous No.]

>>27837025
most of the 2nd gen are basically americans. probably immigrant from the vietnam war.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27830205
I question his manliness, you guys never did anything as a couple?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27788017

[Anonymous No.]

>>27839442
If only they didn't so fixated on nepotism, we can get Mika, Xia and Hyona faster...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27839442
I love Xia's sinetron watchalong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27839442
Xia's design is sex, but I unsubscribe after she speaks indo most of the time

>>27842481
Leave Mika out of this

[Anonymous No.]

>>27845006

[Anonymous No.]

>>27769005
>ID VTuber scene continues to incline (for months already!)
is it tho?

[Anonymous No.]

This tweet from an ID malechuuba went viral, and I think it really says how Luxiem shifted the local taste about malechuubas, so that means for future malechuubas, they gotta have good voice first to incline?
https://twitter.com/AQUA191V/status/1545807977344630784
>captcha:KGXG4Y

[Anonymous No.]

>>27846311
Another reason to not give phone to your kids

[Anonymous No.]

>>27846311
>Aqua
Isn't that a tranny?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27846311
>it really says how Luxiem shifted the local taste about malechuubas, so that means for future malechuubas, they gotta have good voice first to incline?
Twit yang di link sama pertanyaan lu gak nyambung

[Anonymous No.]

>>27845006
What's wrong with speaking Indo and Mika tho? ID wave 6 is great

[Anonymous No.]

>>27846311
You overgeneralize shit, anon. He asked 11 years girl who probably is a fujo so that's only applied to male chuubas who want to pander to that audience otherwise it won't affect the market that much

[Anonymous No.]

>>27847602
Maybe that anon is an EOP

[Anonymous No.]

>>27842481
this has always been the case, hana, bobon and siska weren't cronyism hires.
also if they didn't fixate on it, I doubt any of the 3 would've joined.
>>27845006
>Xia's design is sex, but I unsubscribe after she speaks indo most of the time
not because she doesn't want to be lewded?
>Leave Mika out of this
without mika you'd just have another wave 5 of lower enders doing their own thing, something people would complain about regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27847602
I really feel like they have the best individuals on average when it comes to NijiID waves, Xia local taste is just absurdly good, Mika is well built for EOPs and I watched Hyona lore stream the other day and it's one of the most nervewrecking stream I've ever watched, it's just that when you have good solos, you don't really see them collab with each other

[Anonymous No.]

>>27848513
If only they keeps debuting cronies for wave6, that'd be better for nijiniggers out there, and other agencies get better talents they can grow from

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is truly /#/ for ID, the post here are used as a bait in catalog

[Anonymous No.]

>>27801377
sus cow

[Anonymous No.]

>>27849301
well, someone also post that in /#/

[Anonymous No.]

>>27849301
The aqua tweet screenshot is from yesterday. I saw a thread with it but I forgot which thread

[Anonymous No.]

How popular is idol groups in Indonesia right now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27850791
JKT48 is still midly popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>27850791
Let's see
aespa is trending right
now

[Anonymous No.]

>>27852365
I mean like local idol groups.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27852401
Idol scene Indonesia is almost non-existent. Idol fans exist though

[Anonymous No.]

>>27852401
Not sure if this what you're talking bout but I knew from Kobo fangirling that local boybands are still here and they're getting better in quality

[Anonymous No.]

Hyona Little Nightmares 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmkNKzKNyjE

Mika Genshin:
https://www.twitch.tv/mikamelatika

[Anonymous No.]

Oga and Risu Harapan panpanpan
https://youtu.be/xVxBBffZMrc

[Anonymous No.]

>>27852401
surprisingly, in jogja there's an idol group that have decent attendance on their concert. it shocks me cuz i know nothing about them and the only reason i went to their concert was because my friend asked me to accompany him

[Anonymous No.]

So what's the difference between idols and boy/girl bands

[Anonymous No.]

>>27855309
Could you tell more? Now I'm curious

[Anonymous No.]

>>27857399
the idol group's name is minerva land. kind of a grassroot local idol group, so don't expect jkt48 quality on them. apparently they have a healthy enough fanbase to sustain their operation for the past 3 years. one of their member is my friend's coworker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27855440
nothing, jkt only use the "we're idol group, not girl band" as a buzzword.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27857938
Ahh... i remember the debate in kikebook

[Anonymous No.]

>>27857938
>JKT48
Remember Pongasi the legend?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27850791
Pretty much dead after covid, I remember before covid i known a lot of insta friends who join idol group, there's like thousand of those small idol groups back then. Most of them already leave entertainment industry, few debut as vtuber but rarely active recently.

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>>27855440
Idol group is a brand made by a company, boy/girl band is a group of people who made a music together. Company can change the member of idol grup but they can't do that to boy/girl band because they don't own the brand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27852128
It's amazing to see them still here when the rest of the musical landscape are getting even more varied, hopefully one day we'll see vsingers breaking in too

[Anonymous No.]

>>27831460
Kobo reach 1 million subs today, and Nara can't even reach 100k, it's over bro, no one can't beat Holo ID in Indonesia, just give up bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>27861422
They are on the verge of dying from Covid, but they are now starting to gain more steam. Kinda curious tho, what if they collab with HoloID? Their members already knows Kobo and even bantering with each other, so the possibility does exist

[Anonymous No.]

>>27861747
>what if they collab with HoloID?
It's possible but what would they do? A group song collab? Coop gaming? A reality event show?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27861847
Group song is possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27858867
>few debut as vtuber
Isn't Moona the example of that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27861663

[Anonymous No.]

>>27860004
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>27861907
yes kek. she talk about it on stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>27861663
No empire lasts forever, they will fall or at least becoming irrelevant sooner or later.
That's why I've been siding with the pro-local pandering since the beginning, to cultivate and grow the local market, because there will come a time when Holo ID becoming irrelevant or stuck in a big scandal. When they leave, at least we already have a big thriving market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27862076
Talking about Moona, is she a half? I noticed that sometimes, she uses formal Indonesian which is kinda weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>27862196
yes, half Moonarian

[Anonymous No.]

>>27862054
OH SHIT, MR JOKOWI IS /HERE/

[Anonymous No.]

>>27862140
Lol, keep seething anon, no one will beat Holo ID in the ID sphere, keep trying with your small nameless corpo, I'm sure you will fail later

[Anonymous No.]

>>27862196
She is 1/8 of many places

[Anonymous No.]

>>27861847
Do holoID has JKT48 karaoke/cover permissions? We knew niji has or so they were pre-merger but I never seen holo side being interested In that unless I missed something

[Anonymous No.]

Kek, its easy to divide you people

[Anonymous No.]

>>27862140
>>27863026

[Anonymous No.]

>>27863205
Based kudaposter, both anon are retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>27863110
Yeah taking baits like noobs

[Anonymous No.]

>>27863205
The cow is having fun before Kurban, nice.

[Anonymous No.]

So.. What now? Any notable event before August 17?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27863513
Not sure yet. For me, there will be a Devour collab from Miti, Nia, Karissa, and Alia this Tuesday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27863513
I'm still curious about Kobo's "collab with someone special".

[Anonymous No.]

>>27863834
Collab with pewds

[Anonymous No.]

>>27863026
Sure no one will in 1-2 years, but no one knows if we are talking about 5 years from now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27863834
collab with The President himself

[Anonymous No.]

>>27864014
Kobo is Blu???

[Anonymous No.]

>>27864105
Kobo will get a bicycle from Mr. President.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27864014
that's blu

[Anonymous No.]

>>27864105
Meh, the "Prime Minister" is stronger

[Anonymous No.]

>>27863084
i remember Iofi did JKT48 songs, since it's basically cover of JP 48groups songs i think it's allowed(?) their original songs is another thing though

[Anonymous No.]

>>27864721
She sings AKB version tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>27863834
Handcam stream with horses Yagoo bought for her 1M celebration

[Anonymous No.]

>>27864163
>"Prime Minister"
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27846311

Despite being ID, he resides in Canada

Also, yeah this shows that minors aren't safe from exposure to those kind of contents, so... idk. But afaik that's concerning

[Anonymous No.]

I found this to be a bigger shock than Kobo 1M but Olivia got rigged by a Malaysian, that's so fluid coming from holo
https://youtu.be/58a9sGF-i1g

[Anonymous No.]

>>27864105
Actually, Jokowi has commented on HoloID Gen 3 debut: https://youtu.be/yWB3R8yxvqg

[Anonymous No.]

>>27865654
Have the twitter of the rigger?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27865709
https://twitter.com/MomoiroKohi

[Anonymous No.]

>>27865835
Ah shit this guy. I have him on radar for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

Xia Black:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCE8EusPMoE

Mika Who's Lila?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bcOXIPNwxE

[Anonymous No.]

t chan finally make an official thread for kobo

[Anonymous No.]

Alongside Jordan, I found another person shilling new VTubers, Jonathan Halim. He's been doing this from 2020 and even though it's nice to have someone like him around, I wish he can fix his grammar though, it's beyond atrocious.
Here's him shilling:
Mine: https://twitter.com/JonathanHalim17/status/1462538576067891207
Mythia: https://twitter.com/JonathanHalim17/status/1326512799497949184
Kanna: https://twitter.com/JonathanHalim17/status/1315040183155191808

[Anonymous No.]

Reza hosting D&D with Millie, Vox, Fulgur, Shoto:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH-wGVtKBWw

Taka and Miyu Valorant starting soon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwBm8Td1eV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOB6BO-sE7w

[Anonymous No.]

>>27862140
lol fricking retard faggot

[Anonymous No.]

i have a friend who used to watch ID indie's since mintchan era. but now he prefer watching wvt and vshojo because they are more "entertaining" (this is not a bait, really). does this happen to you or your friend? if so, what's the reason behind it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870581
Taste can change, it's unsurprising. VShojo can be "entertaining" if your humor and preference aligns with the average Twitch audience. I was oshiless before finding my oshi (Miti) and it took me more than 1 year to have an oshi. Before her, I watched all kinds of Hololive and Nijisanji VTubers, whether it be ID, JP, or EN. Sometimes I watch indies and small corpos, too. So yeah, your friend simply finds western VTubers entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27865093
ssttt never say his name or we are fucked

[Anonymous No.]

just wanna say hololive ID will be at CF. see you there guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870581
>>27871282
i used to be active in indie IDvtuber circles (2020-2021) and (almost) everyone are hololive copycat , its fucking boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27868620
You're just as retard by replying to him anon.
>>27870581
Sometimes you want something fresh anon. I went from ID flesbtubers > EN flesbtubers > ID chubas (mostly holoID gen 1&2) > EN chubas mostly Selen and Kronii > back to ID chuba with Kaela and Kobo (+some EN fleshtubers again). It's normal, don't get parasocial and think that you need to always watch them all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872830
>hololive copycat
care to tell more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872830
That's a bad sign when our so called Indonesian incline is just an incline on cluelessness on where exactly we should grow our chuubas

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875195
that's before late 2021 anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875243
Has things changed since then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27866086
finally kek, also did some based thing
>>27868745
>>27878026

>>27875587
nta, but it's getting better imo, yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875195
>>27875243
>>27875587
yeah looks like late 2021 is the "new wave" of IDvtuber , their contents is getting better and everyone is not just copy & paste what hololive doing.

some of the IDvtubers are into edutainment like layla, its very unique but sadly its not attracting many views

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875587
uh... not much? but it get better

[Anonymous No.]

sundul gan

[Anonymous No.]

>>27881944
Up at away gan

[Anonymous No.]

>>27878647
Oh nice then

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875195
Because most id chubba is stupid realizing where the market and how to earn them. They already have kobo and mythi as success story but instead following her they still stick with old market. Also if you are a vtuber stop pandering on kikebook, that place is filled with edgy weeb or so called "vdubur haters" even kobo never update her fb page since her debut becuase she know fb market is trash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27888777
Because most Indonesian are poorfags and can't donate/member their oshi, Holo ID 1 and 2 tried and their donations are very low, while most indie needs to do lewd content and subathon to get donations (like mythi the whore), Niji ID is no more because most of the livers are talentless 2views who can speak indonesian

Kobo is an outlier, and I'm glad for her to capture Indonesian market, but stop the IDR donations and I can guarantee you she will start to speak EN or CN

[Anonymous No.]

>>27891498
If you gonna say it to normiefags like that, might as well tell them straightforward that you just wanna gatekeep them by making them vdubur haters

[Anonymous No.]

>>27891498
lol fricking retard take faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>27878468
I wonder when it comes to Lele would her edustreams fit EN audience better?

[Anonymous No.]

>27891498
Baffling post

[Anonymous No.]

>27891498
Oh hey, welcome back Urso

[Anonymous No.]

>>27895679
I don't think edustream could work well unless:
1. You're a genuinely great teacher that're better than most school teacher (Khan Academy, Zenius)
2. You're already famous (Ollie, Jerome)

[Anonymous No.]

>>27897659
Edustream brings more problems than merits. Just one simple mistake and you'll get nasty comments

[Anonymous No.]

nah it won't work for edutainment, even Jerome himself will not be as popular as now if he only relied on edutainment stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>"w-we just want tubers to speak what they prefer, unlike those people who argue that they should Indonesian more"
>Kobo gets a million subs with mostly speaks Indonesian
>"I-I think with this, that group will feel validated"
>but in the same thread they also say, "Kobo needs to speak English more"
It's so ironic that that self-hating indogs in /r/hololive are covering under that "we should let tubers to speak with their preferred language" argument, but then keeps saying that Kobo needs to speak English more kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27891498
>stop the IDR donations and I can guarantee you she will start to speak EN or CN
why don't you stop being retard first, maybe you can get a friend this time loser.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27902588
Those self-hating indog also hope some of kobo fans to check her id senpai so they can reach 1 million sub like kobo but at the same time they always hate when kobo fans come to their oshi stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27903254
Those are not Kobo's "fans" lmao. Unless you want to admit that majority of them are insufferable bocil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27902588
They're just insecure people, and knowing a little bit of English and mocking anyone who prefer Indonesian is the perfect way for them to feel superior. The point about "w-we just want tubers to speak what they prefer" is valid, it's understandable why they choose to cater to EN, but not everyones is a spammer of dumb memes.
>>27900736
Yes, but that doesn't mean you can't do 1-2 edutainment content once in a while.
>>27902623
You're just as retard by replying to his bait anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27903865
No, I don’t disagree with that but that argument is a reaction to that vocal group. Because once there’s a tuber that mostly speaks Indonesian and also popular, they keep saying that she needs to speak English more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27902588
Link gan, I want to shit on them, literally

[Anonymous No.]

>>27903450
Yes those as kobo's fans too, they look toxic but they just want some attention and having fun in stream, they doesn't have any ill intention to the stream. If kobo doesn't like the joke anymore kobo just tell them lightly like talking to a literal child and they will stop doing that, she already doing that a few times like with "xina joke" and "scam joke" and as you can see those bocil kematian actually follow her instructions to stop using those jokes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27905704 (me)
*are, fuck the auto correct
Also i think it's much better to have a literal child as a fans than fucking manchild who hates everything that he didn't like

[Anonymous No.]

Looking at weekly superchat, Chloe is the highest in ID chuuba scene apparently. Sadly HoloID isn't on the list because they set their channel to Japan, which is honestly kinda sad, cause I want to see the difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27906047
But manchild give money

[Anonymous No.]

>>27906234
You're forgetting about VOD views. Sure those bocil doesn't watch stream or donate, but they watch the VOD and those VOD actually generates revenue. There's also the fact that Kobo's VOD is among the strongest in Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27905704
Then don't expect her senpai's fans to accept them, they don't want them. Those "fans" are the same people who also shittalking ID1&2 for not being "ID enough".

[Anonymous No.]

>>27905704
The only problem i have is people doesn't know when to use the joke and when to stop when it doesn't works. Sometimes they use the jokes too often, and also keep repeating it forever. They really need to learn when you "miss the train" and stop following what chat is doing.

It's also funny because it's the same problem with Ollie's rant lol (chat spamming out of context in wrong place and time).

[Anonymous No.]

>>27906234
Literal child also give money, how much do you think those kid spend on their mobile game, if they could steal their parent money for mobile top up they also can use that money to send social buzz and joining membership. I think your aggument already invalid becuase kobo fans already shown that they can donate to Kobo every 2 seconds and joining membership as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>27906431
Its suppose to be ironic anon

[Anonymous No.]

>mythi the whore
Lol, lmao even. Get your self-hating arse out of here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27906140
For total SC, it's Epel

[Anonymous No.]

>>27906739
Her design is great but honestly I don’t like her eyes. There’s something uncanny about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27906566 (me)
For example the "scam" jokes whenever she late to start the stream. It's funny when there's no info, but sometimes she already explain what's happening (or even when the new start time) and chat keep spamming "scam". The joke gets old and people start taking it seriously instead and all of a sudden it becomes a warzone of people screaming "stop spamming!" and also "don't be a chat police!".

[Anonymous No.]

>>27907306
Isn't she already talked about it? I literally never watch her livechat

[Anonymous No.]

>>27907048
Is it because she has a diamond-shaped pupil?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27906482
>>27906566
Again you got the wrong idea here anon, those are the kikebook kids who like to share toxicity in in vtuber community, most of kobo's fans are from tiktok or Instagram, try to check kobo's tiktok sometime, they doesn't have bad thoughts to her senpai, hell they don't even care about them.

Ffs stop using kikebook kids to generalize ID fans, fb community can't even touch 3k like or comment, they are lower than twitter market and nowhere compare to ig and tiktok market

>>27907306
Kobo already kill most of her chat police on the first week after her debut and tell them to be polisi tidur instead

[Anonymous No.]

Wonder how many percentage of Kobo's audience/other popular ID chuuba's audience is actually Indonesian weebs/interested in jap culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27907882
>Tiktok
No thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>27907882
I agree with you, IG and tiktok is definitely the way to go. Kikebook kids are vocal about it, kinda like loud minority thingy. On tiktok and IG, it's hard to be vocal, because their design weren't supposed to handle discussion
>>27908219
Definitely high enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>27907882
>Again you got the wrong idea here anon
Idk why you quote (me) >>27906566 anon. I never said anything about "disrespecting her senpai". I know it's just a small minority who love tribalfagging like that.

I mainly talk abour her fans who just want to make some jokes but overused it. I love the banter, but sometimes it just doesn't and they need to let it go.

>Kobo already kill most of her chat police on the first week after her debut and tell them to be polisi tidur instead
There is still a lot anon, even some awan tier badge, because Kobo right now is much bigger than Kobo on her first week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27908914
>sometimes it just doesn't and they
*it just doesnt work

[Anonymous No.]

>>27764189
>عيد الأضحى
What language is this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27908219
its depend on the vtuber itself imo

[Anonymous No.]

>>27907472
She only said to stop using the scam jokes. But i think the problem is not the scam jokes, but because they overuse it and keep repeating it forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27908219
Kobo's core audience is definitely a weeb. People always said that Windah shill her, but the missing context is that he "shill" her because his chat told him to watch Kobo. There's a decent amount of weebs among Windah's viewers, just look at how many curse anime OP "cover" that he did, all get a lot of views. A lot of people already said that Kobo has some "Wondah vibe" just from her debut, and they're the one who bring Kobo to Windah attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27907882
nah kikebook is still bigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>27908914
Yes I admit there still some chat police, but they are only there on her prechat, when the stream starting they stop doing that and focus on kobo stream instead. Kobo probably didn't notice this because she's too busy preparing her stream, maybe someday she will also talk about this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27909854
Stop trying to be relevant kikebook faggot, even vt with lower population can be more impacfull that your shithole

[Anonymous No.]

>>27910134
>More impactful
Then why is the management only cares about dramafags from Facebook or Twitter? Oh right, that's because they can actually trace them and took them down unlike this shithole. No sane person take 4chan seriously, unless they are retard themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>27910134
Why are you so insecure?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27910134
anon, you can't spin the fact how big kikebook is in indonesia
you're trying too hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>27911767
nta but facebook is just a litte bigger than vt, they still no where near other platform

[Anonymous No.]

>>27906140
>>27906998
Chloe kinda make sense if you compare it to trakteer last chart on 3rd July, but in comparison you got Sena above her and Miti-Karissa a bit below her there, I guess Epelables are more into SCs than other local chuubas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27905207
It's on the celebration thread for Kobo reaching a million subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27914800
btw trakteer "trending creator" counts how many times you get donation and not the amount. btw. sena gets a lot of donations but they are usually only 1-10 units. some indo chuubas who get huge donations but in smaller frequencies don't end up on the trending page

[Anonymous No.]

>>27914800
Wait, is Chloe that popular?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27915827
Chloe is the 3rd biggest id chubba outside big3 agency.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27917478
who's the 1st and 2nd and who are the big3 agency?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27917609
The big3s are
>holoID
>MAHA5
>Yume Reality

[Anonymous No.]

>>27917609
1st is Miti and 2nd is Kanna I believe

[Anonymous No.]

>>27917773
Nijibros :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>27918154
Kanna...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27777111
These niggas will really do this but keep mosque speakers unregulated.
>tfw 4 different mosques belting at 5am

[Anonymous No.]

>>27906140
>Sadly HoloID isn't on the list because they set their channel to Japan
btw for those unaware, they have the channels set to japan because if it was set to indo, the companies assumed they wouldnt have been able to turn on supachat and membership, thats why it took so long for nijiID to get those as someone at anycolor finally noticed that there was a loophole that would allow them to have supa and memberships without breaking any rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27919653
Is it changeable or is it only when channel created?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27920832
its changeable, that how niji id finally got it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27921103
Oh okay. Do you think they will change it because Indonesia already allow superchat or do you think they will leave it with Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>27921281
theyll probably leave it as japan since thats the main office, which was the justification for doing it in the first place for the loophole.
though they may change to indo if the taxes are better for them

[Anonymous No.]

Derem Minecraft:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3tMWMqAGHA

Riksa Honkai Impact:
https://www.twitch.tv/riks_2434

[Anonymous No.]

>>27921444
Will changing YouTube account from "Japan" to "Indonesia" affect anything though? Factually HoloIDs are still earning the money in Indonesia right?
Idk, any tax consultant here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27921861
>Riksa
Huh, why does he stream on twitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27921871
I am no consultant, but iirc, Moona used to complain about her taxes.
Some anon discussed this a few threads back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27921871
it will affect the company but it won't matter to the talent since they will get WPDN anyway doesn't matter if you work for id company or a foreign company as long you live in indonesia the tax is still the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27921861
I'm watching derem for the first time, why does the stream feel lifeless? There is no interaction between viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27923957
You expect too much from ex-Niji ID, let them dead anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>27923957
Maybe next time anycolor should teach IDs some lesson by opening VTA in ID

[Anonymous No.]

>>27922947
So there's no real benefit of having the YouTube account registered as Japanese account right?
Yes mooner & co. would still be deemed as Wajib Pajak Dalam Negeri I guess, but how about Cover corp? Aren't their earnings got double taxation? Are there any double taxation treaty between Indonesia and Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27924476
There's no next time, they already kill Niji ID, let them die anon, it's not your fault

[Anonymous No.]

>>27924822
IIRC most of their online earnings should go through google so it's covered in US tax law, merchandising shouldn't be an issue since the tariff or custom is covered personally by the buyer while local merchandising might be affected or maybe not since the transaction is betweet corpos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27924875
Meh, it's anycolor's lost, not ours, we just gonna belok to anyone's serious about investing in our market

[Anonymous No.]

>>27925510
Anon, Anykara won't kill Niji ID if it's profitable in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

>>27925849
So? It's not our fault then that they can't compete but ngl I feel with their exit, ID corpos went too lopsided to holos favor while others are just stuck in the middle, it's not fun if no one can really replace Niji doing hypwars against holo, besides most of basics holoID stuffs we have today like tokped and SB were thx to that nijiholo battle, removing Niji from ID would be like letting Indihome ruining ISPs market to their favor unopposed

[Anonymous No.]

>>27924822
yea i heard there's an extra cut up to 30% even if you are not US citizen, that's why sb and sl is much better than sc if you want to support your oshi. so far we know if you send $100 sc to anyholo talent, youtube will cut it 30% to $70, then when they withdraw their earning they got another cut (its 10% for ID idk how much for jp) to $67, then cover take half of that and become $33 then for their earning jp gov take 20% as tax and it becomes $27. and lastly our goverment make them pay let say 5% from that money, so every $100 sc id talent receives around $25 as their income

[Anonymous No.]

>>27926492
ID corpos don't have that much money to begin with. If they have big investors like what AnyColor or Cover do, then they will have more competing power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27927254 (me)
wait, it should be 63, 31, 25, 23
so every $100 your oshi will receives $23, also do you know you need 3k yen to transfer from jp bank to id bank, but i think cover is the one who pay this bill since i dont think they will send that money separately for every staff and talent

[Anonymous No.]

>>27927254
>>27927474
also this calculation is for id talent only, since en member have a different fee in every country

[Anonymous No.]

>>27927354
Alterly have a big investor

[Anonymous No.]

>>27929522
How big are we talking here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27922003
It's where some of the Ex-ID livers stream when they want to do a grinding stream (e.g. Taka and his FFXIV streams)

[Anonymous No.]

>>27929522
True, it's just that they haven't seen much incline to compete against market leaders yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>27929783
same owner as EVOS (the esport team). they're also big enough to have a 3d concert and make big budget MV for their talents OG song. they also sponsored that velo city guys stream once (or maybe more) kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27926492
>thx to that nijiholo battle
Take your meds. I was also asking and complaining about Sociabuzz and tokped, it has nothing to do with "battle" with Niji. I just want an easy access to HoloID merchs.
There were lots of negative but funny comments about the Holochoco that pushes those things.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfrWoRGlawPQDQxxeIDRP0Q/community?lb=UgxmU37IenuVGHMvaOZ4AaABCQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>27932124
It's interesting how >9 months ago, any person who commented or asked for localizations was labeled as "antis" or "Nijiniggers". I wish kobo newfags could see this, the negativity/allergy "against" localizations were the results of slanders coming from Nijinigs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27932837
Yeah, nijinigs make everything worst

[Anonymous No.]

>>27932837
>>27933059

Spoonfed me more about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>27933211
It's a long history but basically, in every corner of Internet where vtubers are talked about, nijiniggers will always try to make it a point that holoID fans are mostly bule and not indos and will try to stick it to holoID fans. They will then use the following to argue:
>NijiID speak mostly bahasa
>NijiID did more local sponsor
>NijiID mngmt is ahead because of trakteer and sociobuzz
>That faggot jerome did a video with nijiID office
And now where here, kobo just hit 1M subs with mostly ID audience and NijiID is no more. most of those faggots are either in hiding in shame or turned into anti

[Anonymous No.]

>>27933564
So? Learn to separate the fans the talents and management, everything in life has pros and cons and not everything is black and white. Nothing is perfect in this world anyways, we should be better than the usual tribalfags and see things more objectively

[Anonymous No.]

>>27933957
Also tbf those niggers do have some points, mind you that holoID survived on 2 points imo
>better and more integrated branding and connections before ID debuts
>momentum made by talents themselves
Managerial wise the event side still needs more support even tho their talent management is top notch
Niji on the other hand suffered from the opposite and it cost them the long run proving that the biggest homework for all corpos entering ID is to find talents that suits local taste, but I'm concerned now that with a giant like niji leaving, being a corpochuuba becomes less interesting and ID would be ruled by liggers in the foreseeable future

[Anonymous No.]

>>27933564
ah i remember some of this post back in the day mostly on kikebook. every time there was a vtuber(mostly holoID) drama, there always a nijishills promoting their niji with those exact comments. also, reading all of those debate on the comment is still funny kek. truly the peak "bela vtuber kayak bela negara" meme.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like Maha5 has a role in the ID VTuber scene, but since I don't really watch them, I can't name it. If any Maha5 fans (or fujos) are here, please tell the thread more about Maha5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27933564
>>27935421
Wkwkwkwk kampret, it's sad how Niji ID panders to those kids while they can't even donate or join the membership hahaha, bocah2 kampang

>>27933957
>objectively : Niji ID bad, Holo ID good

[Anonymous No.]

>>27936927
They're boring and irrelevant, zen spends more of his time watching Holo ID rather than streaming on his channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>27936927
We really need their POVs here amidst the usual tribalfagging here

[Anonymous No.]

>27937043

[Anonymous No.]

Oh hey, looks like Urso just learn a new phrase for insult now, nice. Bocah kampang is actually much better than wibu miskin goblok so he's done a good job atleast.

[Anonymous No.]

Amicia ZEA Apex with Karon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHq3iQkNI9Q

Taka Cuphead DLC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IrkI5wtnRo

Reza unarchived guitar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oxKYHluSBk

Xia Bakso Simulator:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB6jM4D7CuI

Siska free talk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgJTsL0dkmA

[Anonymous No.]

>>27937442
Let's be honest, y'all watch Holo ID right now rather than these boring chuuba, right? You just put their stream just because they're ID

[Anonymous No.]

>>27938307
I like watch Ejak's stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27938307
I'm watching a Miti VOD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27938307
im actually watching EN noraneko collab right now but checked siska for a bit, saw her dono goal almost reached, so im going to dono her under your (post ID) name

[Anonymous No.]

assalamualaikum

[Anonymous No.]

>>27938771
wsalam

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/Em3bdBmI_D4
Can't wait for news outlet in Indonesia will have VTuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>27938307
im watching rusman

[Anonymous No.]

>>27938763
Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>27938771
waalaikummusalam awan

[Anonymous No.]

id like to remind everyone that you end up reaping what you sow when your being a faggot about things, ironically or not.
if you being a faggot as any fan youre just making everyone who doesnt like your shittiness just want to spite you and the others like you.
i get you fags are just trying to relieve the stress in your shitty lives but do keep in mind that if you do it too much eventually it will bite you in the ass when the tide changes because the tide will always change.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27936939
>>27937043

[Anonymous No.]

tech reviewer vtuber wangy wangy?