>HOLOLIVE IS A BLACK COMPANY AND THEY TREAT THEIR TALENT LIKE SLAVES TO THE POINT WHERE THEY LITERALLY CAN'T COLLAB WITH ANYONE THEY'RE OPPRESSED AND THEY NEED TO JUMP SHIP TO BE SAVED WAKE UP SHEEPLE AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH! Meanwhile:

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Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:47:28 2022 No.27787133 [Reply] [Original]

>HOLOLIVE IS A BLACK COMPANY AND THEY TREAT THEIR TALENT LIKE SLAVES TO THE POINT WHERE THEY LITERALLY CAN'T COLLAB WITH ANYONE THEY'RE OPPRESSED AND THEY NEED TO JUMP SHIP TO BE SAVED WAKE UP SHEEPLE AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!

Meanwhile:

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:49:08 2022 No.27787198 >>27787133 interesting that they only allowed this collab after she left from another EN company and became an indie though

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:49:11 2022 No.27787203 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:50:58 2022 No.27787273 >>27787133 Bae is just scouting for EN3

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:55:18 2022 No.27787462 >>27787133 I don't quite remember about roommate info, but they were friends before Baelz became Baelz, right? Or am I misremembering?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:55:58 2022 No.27787491 >>27787198 Based Cover.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:57:06 2022 No.27787547 >>27787133 Will she become the next case of nepotism in Hololive?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:58:04 2022 No.27787599 Literally who the fuck is this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:59:01 2022 No.27787645 >>27787547 Pikamee has collabed with Ina and still hasn't been hired, so don't get your hopes up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:59:31 2022 No.27787669 >>27787133 Is this one of the bitches from MyHolo TV?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:59:40 2022 No.27787679 >>27787599 Bae's past-life gen-mate by the looks of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:59:43 2022 No.27787685 >>27787462 Part of the same small corpo, yes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:00:13 2022 No.27787708 And now all the shitposters know calling it a black company makes you seethe

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:00:26 2022 No.27787717 >>27787599 She was in MyHoloTV, then she was in Tsunderia and now she is an indie. She is a good singer and does mixing/arrangement work too. Think she made a big mashup of all the NijiEN songs and worked on mixing some of their covers.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:02:36 2022 No.27787820
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>>27787133
How can Miori jump from one company to another like a football player? I assumed that she has their IP as Miori Celestia. But, she's debuted as part of MyHoloTV. So, I assumed she paid his original company for her IP ownership.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:03:39 2022 No.27787876 >>27787133 Isn't this chuuba the one who show her panties in twitter?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:03:49 2022 No.27787885 >>27787133 I didn't know they were this close

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:04:31 2022 No.27787927 >>27787599 IRyS's replacement. Fuck that rrat spouting bitch

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:04:48 2022 No.27787939 >>27787198 Seems like if they are from any corpo besides Vshojo you aren't allowed to collab with them in HoloEN.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:05:05 2022 No.27787954 >>27787679 I know about that. Where is Mana, though?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:05:32 2022 No.27787975 >>27787927 (And yeah, I know they were good friends before Baelz even exists)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:05:40 2022 No.27787981 >>27787876 Yes. And we're still waiting for her bra pics that she promised.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:05:51 2022 No.27787996 File: 133 KB, 820x386, baelz old.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Baelz

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:06:31 2022 No.27788039 >>27787939 Pikamee?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:07:22 2022 No.27788091 >>27787996 Weird avatar for a zhang. A rat is more fitting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:08:50 2022 No.27788185 >>27787954 Moon Jelly streams on twitch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:09:01 2022 No.27788199 >>27787996 >pick up someone who uses THIS fucking avatar >"you're gonna play a rat. A chaotic rat. Like that's her theme, she's chaos personified" What the fuck were they thinking?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:09:41 2022 No.27788244 >>27787939 Doesn't this prove the exact opposite, or did you word it wrong? To my knowledge, this girl was never with VShojo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:11:26 2022 No.27788339 >>27788185 No way. I know her for quite a long ago, from her debut until around one month after that. Well, I'm not into MyHoloTV at the time (except Lili), so...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:11:27 2022 No.27788340 >>27788244 Miori was with Tsunderia until very recently and recently left to become an indie and now suddenly Bae can collab with her friend.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:12:45 2022 No.27788410

>>27787133
>HOLOLIVE IS A BLACK COMPANY AND THEY TREAT THEIR TALENT LIKE SLAVES TO THE POINT WHERE THEY LITERALLY CAN'T COLLAB WITH ANYONE THEY'RE OPPRESSED AND THEY NEED TO JUMP SHIP TO BE SAVED WAKE UP SHEEPLE AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!
Those are Nijifags words, the only one Holo can't collab is Niji because there are someone like the 'nipple' guy and the 'gather his courage to insult someone he has never talked to and their fans' guy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:13:09 2022 No.27788423 >>27788340 Yeah but the dude was talking about VShojo. What the hell do they have to do with her?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:14:47 2022 No.27788503 >>27788199 Part of the reason for MyHolo's entire second gen graduating was because management was trying to force them to stay in character constantly, and in Marica's case it was about as far removed from her actual personality as it gets.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:14:47 2022 No.27788504 >>27788423 The only EN corporation HoloEN members collab with is Vshojo. Other corporations aren't allowed as seen by Miori only getting a collab after she left Tsunderia and became an indie.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:16:12 2022 No.27788574 >>27787996 better a rat than a fake Aussie guvna with no accent

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:16:37 2022 No.27788602 >>27787820 Correct. She did not disclose the amount, but she did say she paid a LOT of money for the rights to her character and model.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:16:57 2022 No.27788621

slightly off topic, but this kind of shows how disappointing large off collab streams can be.
there could have been a faunmei karaoke but then rrat would be left out since she sings different songs. also kronii was barely there so she was more like a cameo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:19:54 2022 No.27788763 >>27788339 she also did a cover on reine's original song a while back

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Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:29:35 2022 No.27789292

>>27788602
Wow... I think it's sensible trade. I wonder how much is needed for Hololive IP lmao. Also, this kind of trade may be one of many ways to transform VTuber's business from company-centered to talent-centered like VShojo. Just as Kikeson intended.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:30:28 2022 No.27789349 Okay now let kiara collab with pomu and kanata with kson it won't happen. Bae just scouting as somebody else mentioned.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:33:19 2022 No.27789536 >>27787645 That's because she is joining VShojo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:35:02 2022 No.27789637 File: 186 KB, 428x415, 1642641510064.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>27789536 call me when Artia is joining VShojo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:35:47 2022 No.27789680 >>27787927 Irys trash. All she does is stink up the joint with her fake seiso image and keyboard fucking she does

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:36:28 2022 No.27789712

>>27789349
I don't think its that, its just that a one off collab with an indie isn't seen as a big deal. While collabing with smaller EN corpos like Tsunderia is just giving attention to direct competitors offering a similar product. Hence why they only allow this collab now when Miori isn't part of any corpo anymore. What does Hololive have to gain from a collab with Pomu when the majority of her viewers already watch HoloEN, they are just giving free exposure to NijiEN. Vshojo has their own audience and gets similair or better viewer numbers to the HoloEN girls they collab with so there is actually mutual benefit to it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:39:31 2022 No.27789867 >>27789349 Kiara and Pomu fair enough, but you can’t collaborate with the company you graduated from. It undermines the whole point of graduation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:40:41 2022 No.27789932 >>27789349 Kanata isn't friends with kson anymore. she literally sad so on stream

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:45:27 2022 No.27790175 >>27787939 More proof that Vshojo is not a corpo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:47:47 2022 No.27790288 >>27787939 >Vshojo More like Mouse. But Im sure even that will come to an end now.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:47:53 2022 No.27790295

>>27789712
>While collabing with smaller EN corpos like Tsunderia is just giving attention to direct competitors offering a similar product. Hence why they only allow this collab now when Miori isn't part of any corpo anymore
Literally the fanbase of the small corpos are already in Nijisanji and Hololive fanbase, beerpals and bae rats are basically the same people

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:49:04 2022 No.27790370 >>27790295 That is what I was saying later on. The fanbase that they do already have is HoloEN fans to begin with so HoloEN gains nothing out of it while encouraging more HoloEN viewers to pick up vtubers in other corpos and spend less time on HoloEN.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:49:51 2022 No.27790410 >>27787133 >stream like 2 hours a week >make millions >LITERALLY SLAVE LABOR

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:50:49 2022 No.27790442 >>27790288 >Who is Nyanners

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:51:51 2022 No.27790482 >>27788423 He was saying Vshojo is the only collab HoloEN collabs with. Niji is probably seen as a rival and most other corporations are too small to bother. Vshojo is big enough and not on youtube, so it's probably not considered a rival.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:53:01 2022 No.27790541 >>27790442 some loser that had an embarrassing collab with Kiara over a year ago

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:54:22 2022 No.27790596 >>27790541 Oh, so Mori.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 11:56:22 2022 No.27790701 >>27790596 Mori is trash, but still miles above fucking Nyanners

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:02:33 2022 No.27791049 >>27787133 Hololive JP is the black part of the company En is just their janky homebrew extension.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:02:40 2022 No.27791056 >>27789932 Why are they still going on a trip together then

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:06:44 2022 No.27791258 >>27789932 >literally It's funny how people can't stop themselves from using this word to signal a lie.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:07:10 2022 No.27791276 >>27789932 She literally said the opposite and they're going on a trip together soon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:08:22 2022 No.27791335 >>27791056 >>27791258 >>27791276 No one watches streams anymore. Everyone is a treadreader

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:11:35 2022 No.27791500

>>27790175
I think the fact that Vshojo from a corporate side isn't really interested in pumping out wave after wave of members, choosing to keep things small and curated probably is one of the big factors. they aren't trying to be competition in that same way that Nijisanji, Prism or other agencies are. same deal with VOMS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:13:47 2022 No.27791606 >>27791276 I bet that trip gets canceled. It's clear they had a fight. I can't see KSON keeping in contact with her with all of her friends that are actually happy for her being there and kanata stewing alone in her own stinky apartment

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:13:57 2022 No.27791615 >>27789223 rat breeding

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:14:51 2022 No.27791649 >>27789712 >What does Hololive have to gain from a collab with Pomu when the majority of her viewers already watch HoloEN All those chinese fujos, of course

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:22:02 2022 No.27791909

>>27791649
They don't watch Pomu though. Check out the chat statistics for her
https://vrabi.net/video/92ohOSUoy8g
basically half the viewers watch HoloEN and more people in her chat watch Gura, Fauna, Kronii, Kiara, Mori, Baelz than any of the males in NijiEN.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:28:01 2022 No.27792158 >>27790370 Your argument doesn't make sense. Small corpo or indies are not competitors with hololive

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:30:03 2022 No.27792232

>>27792158
Indies aren't. Other small corpos most definitely are. They might be small now but if Hololive allowed regular free collaboration with them they would grow off of it and perhaps into an actual competitor some day. You know like when Hololive used to be small in Japan and they grew from regular collabs with Nijisanji.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:30:31 2022 No.27792243 File: 78 KB, 1080x1080, 1645128226146.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No cross agency collabos? Since when

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:31:01 2022 No.27792259 >>27792232 Cover doesn't care. collabs don't happen because their girls aren't asking

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:31:45 2022 No.27792294 >>27789292 sucking dicks is a talent now ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:32:11 2022 No.27792306 File: 246 KB, 1376x972, 1644852093441.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] collabs with every single female vtuber in japan

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:33:30 2022 No.27792360 >>27787645 Pikamee doesn't want to join hololive. Miori probably does.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:33:30 2022 No.27792359 >>27792259 If that's the cope you want to go with I guess. Just totally coincidental that Bae can only collab with Miori now, someone she is close enough with to do an off collab, after she is no longer associated with any other EN corpo

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:35:05 2022 No.27792410

I am pretty convinced at this point that the Niji EN/Holo EN ban is coming from both sides, and also mostly exclusive to those two branches.
Kiara and Pomu are willing to push against it because they are convinced that they are too popular to face any real consequences from minor insubordination they're right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:36:23 2022 No.27792452 >>27787939 VOMS

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:36:55 2022 No.27792471

>>27792359
What cope? the collab happens because both are in LA.
Or you are on the "OMG TAKAMORI IS DEAD, THEY DID NOT COLLAB ANYMORE!" side too?
What difference does if one is indie or small corpo? by your logic she is still stealing viewers from Hololive products and considering how close tight Miori is with multiple companies including NijisanjiEN greenlight this collab is potentially catastrophic

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:37:05 2022 No.27792479 >>27787820 Did preBae have any interactions with preNijiENs back then? I know Miori did so maybe Bae too?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:37:46 2022 No.27792500 >>27792359 Is Bae still in America, or does Miori live in Australia too?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:38:08 2022 No.27792507 >>27792471 A small corporation can actually grow into significant competition with repeated exposure. An indie is just one streamer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:38:25 2022 No.27792523 >>27792500 they are both still in LA

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:39:01 2022 No.27792544 >>27792410 NijiEN is banned from HoloID too aren't they. So it's those two branches but not just with each other.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:39:21 2022 No.27792557 >>27792452 Where's my followup Pika collab?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:39:50 2022 No.27792571 >>27789712 Miori has a tight time limit on succeeding as a vtuber.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:40:04 2022 No.27792585 >>27792507 Ever since going indie Miori is basically still Tsunderia, inside Phase Connect and has a foot in the door of NijisanjiEN. She is fucking bigger than any fucking western small corpo on her own alone as an indie

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:41:02 2022 No.27792618 >>27792523 Oh that would explain why they could do an off-collav now, since Baelz is in the same city as Miori

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:41:21 2022 No.27792629 >>27792585 >She is fucking bigger than any fucking western small corpo on her own alone as an indie Yeah no, not even close. The Phase girls are even ahead of her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:42:36 2022 No.27792673 >>27792585 That doesn't matter though an indie is always just going to be one person. They are never going to be a Hololive replacement while small corpos with growth can come to offer a very similar experience.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:43:18 2022 No.27792698 >>27792585 I don't think Miori rivals Pippa yet. Maybe on a karaoke, but not on other streams. I think Pippa is the big dog of EN small corpos.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:43:54 2022 No.27792716 >>27792629 > The Phase girls are even ahead of her. lol lmao. the only thing phase girls do is making more noise around than she does, atleast their EN whores (Pippa and Lumi, both two faced garbage) while the JP side is literally who in the very sense

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:44:10 2022 No.27792728 >>27792629 Afaik only Pippa but yeah. Miori is mostly dead subs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:44:19 2022 No.27792734 >>27792523 Time to rape all of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:45:03 2022 No.27792761 >>27792585 Pippa is bigger than her, Pippa is like mid size NijiEN She probably is the second biggest tho, and have a higher ceiling than Pippa if Bae shills her a bit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:47:40 2022 No.27792847 >>27792761 >Pippa is like mid size NijiEN You're getting ahead of yourself. Even Reimu is always over 500 ccw which is around Pippa's max average.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:47:43 2022 No.27792849

>>27789292
That might happen with smaller corpos, but the issue with talent-centered business models is that they don't produce anything high quality.

If you're someone like Suisei, and your goal is to become a legit mainstream singer, then your best bet will always be Hololive, and companies that adopt its model.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:48:01 2022 No.27792859 File: 204 KB, 888x1111, 1653898229353.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Pippa

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:50:15 2022 No.27792937 >>27792523 >Bae is breathing the same shitty LA air that i am RIGHT THIS MOMENT feels orgasmic desu

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:00:29 2022 No.27793299

>>27792849
Hence, it's the counterpoint to Kikeson's view.

It's easy to shout "talent freedom" when you're already an established content creator. It's even more ironic when you gain most of your popularity from a company that she may view as the opposite of her ideas about freedom.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:03:46 2022 No.27793424 >>27787599 Someone very prominent in the Vtubing scene if you actually care for Vtubing music (Covers/Originals/Debut songs.)

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:11:52 2022 No.27793770

>>27792849
I have a feeling that this whole talent oriented bussines (if it's not a scam) put's their talent first, their friends second, company third and fanbase is not even on the podium that's why they tend to go lazy with easy money rather than doing anything remotely creative, at least that's my impression looking at Vshojo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:13:25 2022 No.27793849 >>27787645 Pikamee is already in VOMS, she couldn't remain a Pikamee in holo since GYARI owns the rights.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:14:09 2022 No.27793885 >>27788199 we are talking the same people who give a british stereotype model to the most 'murican Myth

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:15:31 2022 No.27793934 >>27788504 Tsunderia is a black company

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:16:21 2022 No.27793968 >>27793934 Tsunderia is just neglectful.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:18:26 2022 No.27794058 >>27792761 Anon mid size NijiEn is around 1k5-2k already

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:21:53 2022 No.27794171 >>27792847 she got around 1k on Holocure

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:23:29 2022 No.27794237 >>27794171 Are we talking about highs on the channel then?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:23:56 2022 No.27794264 >>27787133 Damn those slave work hours.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:25:03 2022 No.27794314

>>27792761
>Pippa is like mid size NijiEN
This is like the fifth time I have seen this in threads Pippa gets mentioned in this week. Is it just some phase connectfag shilling her or do you retards actually believe this? She has gotten over 1k viewer one single time and that was bots lol, no NijiEN averaged less than 1k viewers last month. Just because Pippa playing Holocure gets more viewers than Reimu or Finana reading superchats doesnt mean that Pippa is "mid tier NijiEN" in the same way that Elira getting more viewers on an karaoke than Ame playing apex or whatever doesnt mean that she is "mid tier HoloEN"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:28:21 2022 No.27794473 >>27793934 Tsunderia is a yellow company

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:31:24 2022 No.27794588 >>27793934 Tsunderia is barely a company at this point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:32:29 2022 No.27794629 >>27794314 Let them believe Pippa or Phase has more influence over the western vtubers scene than Miori

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:35:18 2022 No.27794763 >>27794629 Miori certainly has plenty of connections and does work for various vtubers so I'm inclined to agree with that, disregarding CCV.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:36:15 2022 No.27794802

>>27793770
Talent-first absolutely has its benefits, but the problem with talent-first will always be "well, what if the talent is just lazy as hell?"

The company (and the audience) is left with their dicks in their hands going "welp, talent-first. Can't do nothing about it."

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:40:11 2022 No.27794943 Honorary holo?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:41:55 2022 No.27795008 >>27794629 She just has to stream more. She is best buds with Bae and friends with a bunch of NijiENs, but none of that matter if she just streams a few times each month

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:42:45 2022 No.27795038
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>>27789712
>similar or better
Not it’s similar and worse as long as Hololive has gura. Missing is Ina since she didn’t stream in June but she would be above vshojos too. So why collab with someone with lower numbers?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:43:25 2022 No.27795073 Why does Kronii have to use her old account to collab with her friends then?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:43:45 2022 No.27795089 >>27795008 Retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:43:51 2022 No.27795097 Doesn't Miori have to join a big corpo soon or else she'll have to quit VTubing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:44:53 2022 No.27795146 >>27795073 Red Panda is not influential enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:45:34 2022 No.27795173 >>27795097 All she actually has to do is tell her parents to fuck off, but unfortunately she's Asian so she won't

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:48:12 2022 No.27795288 her mouse collab was kino

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:49:18 2022 No.27795337 >>27795146 Which is messed up. She's cute.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:49:59 2022 No.27795356 >>27795337 Anon, being cute is baseline for a vtuber.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:51:17 2022 No.27795412 >>27794314 It's just a combination of number brainrot and the board's (and Pippa's) general hatred towards NijiEN.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 14:00:16 2022 No.27795728 >>27795412 This place was mostly unity before NijiEN decided to leak their corpofag behavior. No, I don't care that your numbers are approaching Hololive's, is NijiEN full of numberfaggots just like /#/?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 14:14:02 2022 No.27796384 >not one link You guys really are just here to shitpost

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 14:19:21 2022 No.27796671 >>27795728 I love how you're going to pretend that the first year of this board didn't involve both /vsj/ and /nijien/ getting raided by tribalfags on a daily basis. Please, keep going.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 14:25:49 2022 No.27797065 >>27796671 You're really amusing if you think the tribalfaggotry was one-sided.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 15:03:05 2022 No.27799174 >>27793934 I di not care I will fuck my little sister and you can't stop me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 15:40:22 2022 No.27801082 >>27796384 Link of what?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 15:49:22 2022 No.27801590 >>27796384 Lazy nigger

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 16:16:09 2022 No.27802866 >>27793934 Did they dox their applicants?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 16:21:18 2022 No.27803165 >>27792571 Am I going to get depressed if you elaborate?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 16:24:40 2022 No.27803319 >>27803165 She is set on graduting next summer

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 16:24:59 2022 No.27803336 >>27792259 >Cover doesn't care. How do you know that? >collabs don't happen because their girls aren't asking HoloEN is a gilded cage and you're off your rocker if you fail to pick up on all the walls that go up whenever an EN interacts with a corpo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 16:26:06 2022 No.27803396 >>27803165 Her parents are trying to force her into med school

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 16:47:48 2022 No.27804434 >1 collab outside of holo >LOOK GUYS THEY ARE FREE TO COLLAB WITH EVERYONE THEY WANT TO THEY JUST DONT WANT TO TRUST ME I SUCKED OFF YAGOO 3 TIMES JUST TODAY

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 16:53:54 2022 No.27804721 >>27794314 Phase mods get paid to shill here

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 16:54:08 2022 No.27804735 >>27788199 Bae said she had a lot of input into the character and from the offcollab comments pikazo got rhe height right at least.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 16:55:44 2022 No.27804831 >>27804721 they do it for free, they were fucking picked straight off /vt/

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 17:17:42 2022 No.27805898

>>27804434
This. It's funny that every other corpo has cross collabs weekly, if not on repeat, and Holofags can't process that HoloEN is odd-man-out. When Risu and Reine are collabing more with NijiID and Ollie is name dropping Selen during her Apex scrims, you know there's more than just "the EN girls dont want to" going on in the background

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 17:35:46 2022 No.27806641 >>27792452 Pika is too friendly with the NijiENs and Kson. She got blacklisted

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 17:48:11 2022 No.27807118
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>>27804434
>>27805898
They can collab with everyone except Niji you fucking newfags

Just because the majority of EN (yes, the majority besides Mori, Kiara, and bae this 1 time and ina that 1 time) doesn't want to doesn't mean they're blocked
>Proof next thread?
Proof right now
https://youtu.be/KXJmgwEz1kw?t=25084

They aren't blocked by management retards

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:04:39 2022 No.27807753 >>27807118 >uhhh >maybe...? >it's case by case... i think? >ummm....yeah? she sounds so confident and sure she can collab with whoever she wants to

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:07:14 2022 No.27807846
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>>27807753
I know you were desperately looking for ways to cope but from the multiple vshojo collabs, future vshojo collabs, indie collabs/callins, and the literal indie collab this entire thread is about while Pomutori and Ollie Selen is still being blocked despite being asked for for years, I'd say it's more than accurate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:07:21 2022 No.27807855 >>27793934 careful, you'll trigger the tsunderia tribals

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:08:12 2022 No.27807883 >>27787203 antis

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:11:59 2022 No.27808032 >>27807855 Who? There are none. Only Hololive, VShojo, Nijisanji and Shit Connect have tribalnigger

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:15:21 2022 No.27808173 >>27788410 why would hololive want to collab with niggysanji?

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:17:20 2022 No.27808266
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>>27789712
> free exposure to NijiEN
1. 90% of their audience is already Holofags anon.
Who do you think keeps asking for the Pomu collab?
2. HoloEN collabed with indies, different corpos, and pretty much anyone they wanted to collab with - including people like Pikamee, Ironmouse and Nyanners, who are direct competitors for their audience. Kiara - in particular - was able to collab with Nyanners and was almost able to do so with Vei as well (before she backed off).
3. Kiara was blocked from collabing with Pomu (NijiEN).
4. Ollie from HoloID was able to collab with Gundou from NijiJP, and HoloID in general is able to collab with literally anyone they wanted (including Maha5, their DIRECT competition).
5. Ollie was blocked from collabing with Selen (NijiEN).
It's pretty obvious to non-blind folks that the collab blocks are from the NijiEN side.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:19:31 2022 No.27808374 >>27807855 Tsunderia has one of the least tribalistic fanbases on the board as far as I've seen

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:20:04 2022 No.27808401 >>27789932 > t. threadreader

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:24:35 2022 No.27808566 >>27787996 Ironically she was a lot more entertaining as Marica.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:32:51 2022 No.27808918 >>27788504 Explain how Moona and Iku collabed?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:34:48 2022 No.27809010 >>27808566 I disagree I thought she was painfully boring and too one note, she's a blast to watch nowadays

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:35:10 2022 No.27809030 File: 497 KB, 1440x1245, tsunderia tribals.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>27808032 >>27808374 bit too much of an obscure joke I guess... this was one of the comments about the NijiEN discord leak

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:40:21 2022 No.27809253 File: 405 KB, 697x726, pff.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>27804434 >>27805898 > 30 minutes apart

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:40:28 2022 No.27809255

>>27808266
1. 90% of NijiEN audience knows about HoloEN, but 90% of HoloEN does NOT know about NijiEN. So a collab would be free exposure to the 90% who don't know, hence why Cover would block it.
2. Those a very few and far between, and magnitudes less than the number of out-of-company collabs that NijiEN has. Plus, Vshoujo is on a different platform, and their content is very much different from HoloEN, so the potential audience crossover is less than the similar NijiEN audience. Not to mention how the important Vshoujo talents have been around longer than HoloEN itself. And recall Kiara's comments about outside collabs: "Vshoujo is generally OK, indies are a case-by-case basis", without a mention of NijiEN.
3. Correct
4. HoloID and NijiJP have very very different audiences, so there is no potential of "losing" HoloID viewers to NijiJP. And HoloID is, truthfully, much better streamers than their other ID competition, plus HoloID has never been as big of a money maker for Cover has HoloEN, so they wouldn't care what HoloID does for collabs, as there is little risk in losing profit.
5. Correct
The collab blocks are most definitely on Hololive's side, as they do not want to lose the high profits generated by their EN branch by exposing EN viewers to their direct (same platform, similar streaming format) competition.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:46:20 2022 No.27809527

>>27795173
>but unfortunately she's Asian so that literally won't do anything
ftfy
The only way to get asian parents to fuck off is to completely cut ties with them. Even if your asian parents won't beat your ass, they'll still completely forget/disregard everything you say, no matter how many times you say it plain as day to their faces; if you're lucky, they'll pay lip service to it for a week before reverting to the timeloop. It's like some kind of high-functioning cultural autism.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:47:09 2022 No.27809568

>>27809255
> 1. ...hence why Cover would
headcanon then
> 2. Those a very few and far between
Because EN like all Holo girls, are fucking busy doing all sorts of shit (recordings for main channel, collab stuff, signing, non streaming work etc.).
> magnitudes less than NijiEN
It's not a fucking competition, it's a simple question of whether HoloEN are allowed outside collabs or not, and whenever they have expressed interest in it, they have been granted permission - EXCEPT with NijiEN, who ALSO blocked HoloID collabs.
> 4.
more headcanon, you have no idea what Cover or any of the girls are thinking.
> collab blocks are most definitely on Hololive's side, as they do not want to [headcanon]
meds

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:49:19 2022 No.27809656 >>27788091 bealz is russian she is KyOresu she is a multi-linguistic person she knows english japanese russian spanish and chinese

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:52:50 2022 No.27809826 >>27809030 What the hell is this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:52:57 2022 No.27809835 >>27787996 Lmao she was called marica

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 18:56:15 2022 No.27810009 >>27809656 Bae is not kyoresu anon take your meds Tho she would be great hire for EN3

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:00:54 2022 No.27810241 >>27792306 ofc these thread reader faggots wouldn't know

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:02:03 2022 No.27810299 >>27810009 same voice dood and she speak chinese just like bae

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:05:43 2022 No.27810481 >>27810299 bae doesn't speak spanish

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:10:42 2022 No.27810678 Miori Celestina was always shit and a whore, she literally is lying to her fans

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:17:42 2022 No.27810975 >>27809568 [headcanon] makes perfect logical sense in terms of a profit driven business.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:20:04 2022 No.27811079 >>27787462 Past lives were both in MyHoloTV which is in an eternal state of crashing and burning

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:25:48 2022 No.27811325

>>27810975
If it did, you'd never see Ina collabing with Pikamee, and since your claim is that of 90% of Holofans do not know NijiEN, that applies to Pikamee as well - she is a potential """drain""" on the audience and Cover would've never allowed that collab if they were profit driven.
Same applies to Nyanners and Ironmouse as well.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:28:26 2022 No.27811438

>>27809255
>little risk in losing profit
>>27810975
>profit driven business
You should look away from your programmed answers and consider a factor that doesn't fit in your nice little equation. How is allowing HoloJP + NijiJP collabs smart for obtaining profits? Something something idol culture will prevent losing viewers? HoloJP has more viewership than NijiJP by average yet they still allowed a collab recently. Let's see, that was around the time Gundou was busy being a Holo anti.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:30:16 2022 No.27811510

>>27809568
No you see the entirety of holopro only sees NijiEN as an existential threat so they only block collabs with them, not literally every single other vtuber company on the planet in every language or region or even every other branch of that same company, just NijiEN for some reason. They're scared of their viewers finding out about them (?)

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:43:41 2022 No.27812146

>>27811325
Pikamee is a JP who can speak EN. She isn't an EN vtuber part of a group of other EN vtubers in the second-largest vtubing company. Holo Management came to the conclusion that there was no risk of HoloEN viewers "flocking" to leave the Holo bubble for VOMS.
As for Nyanners and Ironmouse, they have been around longer than HoloEN, so they are more icons of EN vtubers, which audiences that may not have been exposed to HoloEN, especially at the time of the Nyanners collab. And again, see the fact that HoloEN and Vshoujo are on different platforms and have very different streaming structures, so less of a chance of HoloEN viewers leaving for another EN vtuber similar to HoloEN (which Vshoujo is not).

>>27811438
The only reason HoloJP and NijiJP are still allowed is because NijiJP still has a significant presence in Japan that HoloJP would love to get a hold of. The same cannot be said for the EN branches. And the amount of HoloJP and NijiJP collabs is way down from the days when NijiJP was larger than HoloJP. Funny how they collabs was massively scaled back once HoloJP became larger!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:44:57 2022 No.27812205 >>27788199 TrannyOmega logic. Rat should have been Kroni, Kroni should have been Mumei, Mumei should have been Baelz

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:49:41 2022 No.27812407
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>>27811510
It's really slimy how nijiniggers act like poorfags begging for scraps half the time, and yet when it's convenient for them they act as if NijiEN is superior and then go
> HoloEN audience would OBVIOUSLY watch NijiEN IF ONLY THEY WERE JUST EXPOSED TO THEM !!!???111one
Their entire fanbase is a fucking plague not only on this board but in the VTuber community as a whole.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:54:33 2022 No.27812611
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>>27812146
> Pikamee isn't an ENVtuber
> Nyanners and Ironmouse are icons of EN vtubers
> NijiJP still has a significant presence in Japan
Jesus you can literally see his brain twisting in on itself to try and justify that retarded headcanon.
Keep bringing the seethe, it's entertaining as hell.
Oh and not to forget the classic nijilie -
> massively scaled back once HoloJP became larger
selective memory loss faggot? It was due to the chinkout.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:59:50 2022 No.27812844 >>27812146 Huh, so by your logic NijiEN blocked the Selen-Ollie collab because they were afraid of Ollie stealing Selen's viewers. Curious decision.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 20:04:42 2022 No.27813031

>>27793770
If by creative you mean big events like concerts, the only one who really sings in mousey, the rest are twitch streamers with cartoon masks.
If by creative you mean 3D lives one or more of the talents would have to foot the bill for the expenses.
If by creative you mean big offcollabs where members can do spicy banter in person, the USA makes a geographic barrier because everyone is so far away from each other vs Hololive having everyone in or around Tokyo. Maybe if all the Vshojos lived in LA or New York.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 20:07:17 2022 No.27813137 >>27787133 What a deceptive art. Miori is by far the rowdier brattier one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 20:10:50 2022 No.27813288 >>27803336 You're off your rocker if you underestimate the social anxiety rampant in the vtuber industry and how some of these girls can't even make a physical phone call to make a dentist appointment without going into a panic attack.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 20:25:41 2022 No.27813827 Mori collabed wth milky Queen

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 20:27:04 2022 No.27813884 Meanwhile Kronii is doing fucking nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 20:28:37 2022 No.27813931 >>27787996 What the fuck she used to be in that bootleg holo group???

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 20:34:24 2022 No.27814136 >>27812407 No one says this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 20:39:45 2022 No.27814396 >>27787133 They're allowing it because Miori is going to be Gen 3

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 20:40:46 2022 No.27814441 >>27787717 Hasn't she worked with Calli on something?

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 20:41:15 2022 No.27814463

>>27814396
She probably won't make gen 3. They're due pretty soon and preparation starts way in advance for hololives so she probably missed the window on applications with her Tsunderia contract. She's a sure in for whatever opportunity she can go for though next though

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 20:42:14 2022 No.27814511 >>27787820 >>27788602 I've heard Tsunderia footed the bill

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 20:44:05 2022 No.27814601 >>27787996 I'll vtube as a nematodhggnp e if it meant I'd get 250k subs in one week.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 20:44:32 2022 No.27814626 >>27787939 Pikamee? Also, they collabed with VShojo a while back. Nyanners doesn't want to remember because she got wrecked by Kiara.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 22:08:15 2022 No.27818813

>>27812611
Are any of those three things I said wrong? The fact that you had to resort to "nijiseethe" means I'm right.
And no, it wasn't because of the chinkout. For example, look at when Subaru stopped collabing when Maimoto. That was way before the chinkout.

>>27812844
No, it's the other way around. Ollie is a bigger streamer than Selen. So HoloEN management, wanting to protect their cash cow, would logically ask the JP upper-management (the people the HoloID and HoloEN management report to) to block any potential NijiEN collab. Given how HoloX debuts were around the same time as the planned collab, I'm sure the JP upper-management were more than willing to agree to it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 22:14:30 2022 No.27819172 File: 1.38 MB, 1277x660, 1657350333653.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nice collab partner you got there, holobronies. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIn4Z-o9qVk

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 22:15:03 2022 No.27819195 >>27813931 If you were a doxxfag you would have known as soon as she debuted

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 22:16:04 2022 No.27819251 >>27814463 Still time for EN Gen 4, or VSINGER GEN 2 before Miori's year is up

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 22:28:09 2022 No.27819899 File: 33 KB, 246x308, 1654407478512.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>27787133 i wouldn't suprise if Miori become a part of HoloEn in future gen

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 22:30:59 2022 No.27820040 >>27787876 >>27787981 Proof?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 22:44:18 2022 No.27820690 Isn't Miori an alcoholic so bad that she'd make Mori blush?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 22:59:10 2022 No.27821428 >>27820690 at least mori doesn't get plastered and hangout in her discords vc like miori, absolutely zero boundaries and it's very gross

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 23:02:24 2022 No.27821594 >>27804721 Wasn't Phase literally founded by chink money? lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 23:03:47 2022 No.27821661 >>27792859 Never quite sure what this image is supposed to convey.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 23:10:27 2022 No.27821942 >>27789637 >joins VShojo with her archenemy Kino

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 00:34:18 2022 No.27826580 >>27812407 Please save Reimu and Petra...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 00:39:01 2022 No.27826952 >>27787133 why do so many people go independent?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 00:40:32 2022 No.27827083 >>27814441 Nah but Mori shilled her early on when Myth was at its peak iirc

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 00:42:54 2022 No.27827257 Odds of Miori being in EN3?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 00:44:01 2022 No.27827350 >>27819251 I feel bad for anyone signing up for vsinger Gen 2 seeing how badly IRyS is managed

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 00:51:57 2022 No.27827889 >>27827350 Yeah, luckily IRyS is an entertaining streamer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 01:02:09 2022 No.27828630 >>27792557 The Ina/Pika collab didn't have much chemistry. I don't think anyone else in Myth wanted to collab with her and Council didn't exist at the time. >>27806641 Probably.

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 01:15:46 2022 No.27829589

>>27812146
>Pikamee is a JP who can speak EN.
Foreign fans can't see it this way but I promise you the Japs in management see it like this. Pikamee being haffu alone gives her leeway that non-Japanese won't get in regards to collabs. Looks at home IRyS got her deal as a Vsinger and hoe pissed Kiara was that IRyS had company money paying to produce her music. (Yeah, they've been shitty to her now but in the early days she was Hololive's Golden Child). Japanese people will always defer to you being JP or Kaigai in regards to business and personal relationship decisions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 01:19:00 2022 No.27829807 >>27821428 The possibilities for yabs are endless. Mori did get shitfaced at Gigguk and Hime Hajime's wedding and had to be carried to her room.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 01:44:35 2022 No.27831376 >>27787939 Seems like they only allow collabs with corpos if they stream on twitch and not youtube to avoid helping the competition

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 02:06:03 2022 No.27832710 >>27829589 Irys took Kiara position as the duo lingo living in japan because dumb Kiara had to flee japan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 02:06:27 2022 No.27832730 >>27812205 Shit take. You know nothing of gap moe. I bet you haven't even watched a single episode of anime in your fucking life.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 02:09:48 2022 No.27832948 >>27789637 Bro she'd lose all her social credits.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 03:37:29 2022 No.27839956 >>27808918 They're not EN.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 03:39:17 2022 No.27840122 >>27820690 Yeah, it's great.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 05:18:49 2022 No.27847330 I wonder if they fucked.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 06:34:34 2022 No.27850898 >>27787198 Miori went through 2 different companies before going full Indie, after MyHoloTV it was Tsunderia.

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 08:11:11 2022 No.27854389

>>27787939
Very late to the party but, most collabs hololive has with other vtubers are on the other vtuber channel, OPs is one example. Hanekawa from Nijisanji collabs a lot with Matsuri, and even had a song Collab with Shion like a month ago. There could be others but I dont watch Nijisanji or other agencies and indies a lot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 08:20:54 2022 No.27854676 >>27787996 Marica hahahahahaha It means fag in spanish

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 08:31:47 2022 No.27855005 >>27787133 its absolute mind boggling how talented myholo gen 2 was, and they threw it away

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 08:38:20 2022 No.27855186 >>27855005 And then Tsunderia went ahead and repeated the mistake

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 10:25:57 2022 No.27858318 >the mere existence of council still makes nijiniggers seethe a entire year later eternal zhang

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 13:36:13 2022 No.27866475 >>27788039 Did she collab with them yet?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 14:32:10 2022 No.27868783 >>27809835 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FMgW8SdTLc

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 14:56:52 2022 No.27869812

>>27812407
nigger, businesses assume this shit and anons are explaining how the businesses think.
them explaining it what the businesses are assuming isnt them saying they believe it too.
also youre one to talk when holoniggers are the one reason we even have this board, being containment breaking obnoxious fucks who keep blaming everyone else for their shittiness.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 15:09:16 2022 No.27870386 >>27789637 Now thats an Avenger Level Threat to all Vtuber Corpos. >True Unity Chads

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 15:10:49 2022 No.27870471 >>27787203 Voices in his head

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 15:11:17 2022 No.27870485 >>27832948 Dude backstabbing Json in CQC will get her 1million Social Credits

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 15:15:29 2022 No.27870676 File: 957 KB, 852x766, Miori tilt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>27820690 Yes but Miori is a nice girl and she's never did anything harmful or disrespectful

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 15:42:18 2022 No.27871989
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>>27869812
Your "assumptions" don't make it any less of a headcanon nigger.
Fact is, NijiEN collabs with both HoloID and HoloEN have been blocked, while HoloID has had no trouble collabing with NijiJP (fucking Gundou no less).
Which pretty much implies the block is from Niji side.
Continue coping though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 17:04:00 2022 No.27875914 >>27787996 Has any other (non-2view) model copied an existing anime character as hard as Marica copied Violet Evergarden?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 17:04:49 2022 No.27875965 Isn’t irys a great example? Cover treats her like absolute shit

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 17:13:15 2022 No.27876403

after watching this collab I realized they have more chemistry together than any of the id, jp or other en girls combined
they sounded like they became best friends at the peak of their lives
literally every other vtuber interaction feels like it’s bait and only done for pay now

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 17:21:58 2022 No.27876848 >>27876403 ogey

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 17:32:15 2022 No.27877320 >>27787133 First ever collab with her friend had to be a off-collab where management can't do anything to prevent She is rebelling, WAKE UP!!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 17:40:34 2022 No.27877703 >>27792479 She and Elira >ragtag archive【APEX LEGENDS】Nova + Mari = APEX PREDATORS [ENG]【MyHoloTV】

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 18:00:07 2022 No.27878622 >>27877703 No shit people found out who Bae was the very second she spoke a word, she was using her rat voice on the old model aswell

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 18:01:39 2022 No.27878688 >>27878622 There were people actually denying it lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 18:01:50 2022 No.27878699 >>27875914 >non-2view marica was 2view

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 18:01:51 2022 No.27878701

>>27809568
>are fucking busy doing all sorts of shit
stop with that fucking cope
This is just like
>Sana is doing art for cover thats why she is not streaming, before the back hort stream
the only work recently was all the Kiara 3D saga, the rest aren't fucking busy

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 18:03:34 2022 No.27878775 >>27875914 >violet evergarden invited blonde knight girls

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 18:07:10 2022 No.27878919 >>27814511 No they did not. Miori buyout the channel out of her own pockets, girl is loaded

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 18:07:13 2022 No.27878921 >>27819899 only if she gets the Suisei treatment, she is adamant in not leaving the Miori persona

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 18:09:33 2022 No.27879017 >>27878921 > she is adamant in not leaving the Miori persona You don't watch her streams, she actually explicitly stated that keeping or losing model is not a factor for her in the case she decide to try joining another Hololive or Nijisanji

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 18:11:28 2022 No.27879102 File: 71 KB, 400x401, 1432306600896.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>27787133 Whoa one off corp collab per like 3 months? Truly Hololive is amazing!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 18:22:34 2022 No.27879623 >>27876403 They went through a shitty situation together which is bound to build fairly strong bonds

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 18:28:25 2022 No.27879878

>>27827257
Here's how it goes: she's either EN3 or she isn't any future EN gen, if she doesn't make it as a streamer in the next 10/11 months she'll be forced to quit streaming and continue a career she doesn't really like by her parents, so I think chances are medium to high that she's at least attempted joining EN3 seeing as that would be the surest way to say "I made it" to her parents, her biggest reason to not being a Holo is that some of her content would have to be less yabai, but I think it's a relatively minor reason, plus she doesn't need to graduate to join Holo, she could keep being Miori for the yabai content that's too much for management and, more importantly, one of her dreams is to perform in a stage similar to HoloFES, that's something that is simply out of the realm of possibility for her right now, but not if she becomes EN3

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 18:29:20 2022 No.27879922 >>27878919 I thought she couldn't even afford a streamdeck?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 18:31:17 2022 No.27880019 >>27879922 Maybe the family is cutting short the free money

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 18:35:22 2022 No.27880228

>>27879102
Limiting outside collabs maintains the "premium" feeling of managing to land a collab with HoloEN. It's like how getting into a partnership with Apple these days is highly desirable but incredibly difficult considering how Apple is a closed off self-sustaining ecosystem at this point.

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 18:50:49 2022 No.27880922
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>>27880228
Honestly think it's more about avoiding leeches and yab magnets than being exclusive for the sake of it. Collab beggars are also clearly no stream watchers, or they would know there are far more desirable internal collabs still waiting to happen. Hell, we had the first 1 on 1 collab between Fubuki and Korone just a couple of days ago for fucks sake.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 18:52:54 2022 No.27881015 >>27880922 This outside collab turned extremely kino

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 19:02:43 2022 No.27881471 >>27879878 As far as I’m aware, Cover doesn’t let you double dip as a vtuber but they have no issue with you being a pngtuber on the roommate account.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 19:05:20 2022 No.27881619 >>27881471 They do, but just double dip as indie. It makes sense since you can't involve with 2 companies at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 19:12:04 2022 No.27881971 >>27878775 >Has a mechanical hand/arm >Brooch >Dress is nearly identical >Backstory is about writing letters Stop being purposely obtuse just to argue

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 19:54:08 2022 No.27883795

>>27878701
See point 3 : not a competition.
Regardless of their reasons, if they WANT to collab with someone, 99% of the time they are able to.
The block is obviously on NijiEN side considering they blocked HoloID as well (still haven't heard a good reason for this).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 21:51:35 2022 No.27888878 >>27787133 yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 21:56:20 2022 No.27889133 >>27866475 One collab with Ina.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 21:57:42 2022 No.27889202 >>27787203 Vshojo fans

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 21:59:35 2022 No.27889305
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>>27787133
Hololive needs to stop being retards and let EN collab with nijisanji.

vshitshow collabs are now out the window, and ID/JP being allowed to collab with each side for years, but EN is the issue? Ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 22:56:18 2022 No.27893158 >>27883795 >still haven't heard a good reason for this HoloEN management wants to protect their EN cash-cow and convinced upper-management to block NijiEN collabs company-wide

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 23:17:22 2022 No.27894323 >>27889305 >>27893158 Get out of here you clowns. How much are you getting paid?

Anonymous Mon Jul 11 01:30:51 2022 No.27900664

>>27787820
Yes. She probably didn't want to join another corpo unless she could retain ownership to her model as well. Probably why she went with Tsunderia. There could actually be a time line in which Miori was never Miori and debuted in Niji KR as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 02:24:36 2022 No.27903778 >>27808266 >was almost able to do so with Vei as well (before she backed off). she never backed off though She was blocked by cover after doubling down on calling them a black company.

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