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Did she deserve a spot in Hololive?
Were the jealous 2views right?

>> No.28038024

>>28037904
No but neither anyone on Council deserved their spot.

>> No.28038089

>>28037904
Council were a bunch of bad hires. However, if HoloX and ID3 came out ok, so might EN3

>> No.28038117

>>28037904
>jealous 2views right
Why are corpocucks so oblivious to the concept of merit?

>> No.28038134

>only talent is drawing
>doesn't draw
Should have been fired on the spot for that stunt alone.

>> No.28038194

>>28037904
Whether they were right or wrong doesn't matter because they would still be jealous.

>> No.28038248

>>28037904
No one "deserves" their success in the streaming industry. It's fucking luck.

>> No.28038264

>>28038024
>>28038089
Fauna is the best streamer in EN.

>> No.28038437

>>28038264
Nah, that's wrong already just with Ame being a thing.

>> No.28038466

>>28038134
Spitting facts.

>> No.28038469
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28038469

When you are at the bottom you work hard and earn a following. If your content is good, people will come to you even if you have a bad start. The reality is that some people will rage quit a game if they are not winning right from the start.

>> No.28038501

You'd think the company itself would prefer to hire someone that's willing to put in a lot of work and make them more money.

>> No.28038606

>>28038501
Shows how much leverage Ina has behind the scenes.

>> No.28038784

>>28038606
If she had any, she doesn't anymore.

>> No.28038940

>>28037904
>Gets a golden opportunity and is hired to stream, make content and interact with fans
>Does none of it and completely ignores it for an entire year

Literally any 0view retard would have been better than what we got. Worst holohire in the history of holohires

>> No.28038968

>>28037904
I heard a rrat that Sana streams more often on her roommate account than on her Hololive channel? Is this true?

>> No.28038985

>>28038784
Ina watched Sana get fired over not streaming, reflected on her own month long break and realized she is next on a chopping block if she does not improve. Which is why she streamed over graduation announcement yesterday

>> No.28039053

>>28038968
Overall? No.
Has there been weeks where she streamed on her roommate more then on Holo? Yes.

>> No.28039158

>>28038968
no, she had 2 streams and a short video in the entire year on her roommate

which sucks in it's own way, cause there's nowhere for the bananalites to go after they stop being sanalites

>> No.28039180

>>28038437
Ame's more a creator than streamer in the last year.
She just sometimes stream her stuff.

>> No.28039285
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>>28038024
Kronii and Fauna are super interesting. Mumei is a hit or a miss but generally entertaining enough. Baelz is generally boring.

Myth also has Ina, Ame, Kiara who are just not interesting people. Mori is ok but she generates too much cringe to watch often. Gura is the only interesting streamer on Myth.

>> No.28039307 [DELETED] 

>>28038024
nijinigger falseflagging

>> No.28039353

>>28038968
Hell no, it was only 2 short genshin videos

>> No.28039494

>>28039285
Council in general just never did anything for me, hell, they don't even play anything interesting with the exception of Kronii.

>> No.28039533

>>28038024
based

>> No.28039635

>>28038134
She did draw in membership streams.

>> No.28039650

>>28038968
Streams were only done as part of a pixiv event.

>> No.28039794

>>28038134
This, it's baffling.

>> No.28039863

>>28039794
Part of the deal from Ina's nepotism hire was that she wouldn't overshadow Ina with drawing streams, I guess.

>> No.28039862

>>28039635
All one of them?

>> No.28039872

>>28038024
Nah. Fauna is unironically a good vtuber

>> No.28039909

>>28037904
They probably took so long to axe her because they introduced Console as this big connected lore group, so it would look pretty bad to drop one of them.
And then it happened anyways so it's like the worst of both worlds.

>> No.28039908

>>28037904
>Did she deserve a spot in Hololive?
Yes.
>Were the jealous 2views right?
lmao

>> No.28039954

>>28039285
>Goomba
>interesting
Gura is a lot of things. Interesting isn't one of them. She's a memelord who pivots between depressive and a lot of fun, but she never has anything particularly interesting to say

>> No.28040136

>>28039909
At this timing isn't it just more likely that she had a one year contract and it wasn't renewed

>> No.28040169

>>28039909
That's good. The council lore shit is cringe and it's really weird that they essentially wrote it so that the council members get to talk down to their senpais.

>> No.28040257

>>28037904
Based on how she was in Month 1, yes.
When she signed up, she wasn't expecting her Youtube subscribers to be slashed twice, to take a month off almost immediately, and then suffered the back problems.
If anything, it's sounding like she toughed it out for another six months before she had to accept her limits.

>> No.28040323

>>28040136
Makes sense why they all went so hard streaming (relative to previous efforts) before their off-collab, and why Kiara found out during the off-collab. They didn't want to get the axe then felt fine going without streams for a while during the off-collab because their contracts were renewed.

>> No.28040388

>>28040136
You're right of course, but don't let it stop your imagination

>> No.28040458

>>28037904
she passed the interviews. everything else is opinion and irrelevant. I'm sure there's some chuuba in antarctica or something who would've been a betterfit, but they didn't make it. so it's irrelevant.

>> No.28040478

>>28037904
Not even a drawing stream since you are talented artist. I am disappointed, sana.

>> No.28040514

>>28039954
Any memelord has already reached baseline interesting as popular memes are by definition interesting to a wide audience.

>> No.28040533

>>28040458
She passed because nepotism. There were probably 100+ other applicants more qualitfied for the spot than her.

>> No.28040538

>>28038264
don't bite the bait sappling, that guy is probably a grasshopper

>> No.28040571

>>28038264
Fauana isn't even a good asmr rp

>> No.28040652
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>>28037904
no.
maybe.

>> No.28040696

>>28037904
No.
I don't care about the jealous 2views.

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>>28037904
>Did she deserve a spot in Hololive?
Sana has uploaded 94 videos in the 322 days that she has been active.
Kaela, who has less subs, has uploaded 147 videos in the 108 days that she has been active.

>> No.28041633
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>>28037904
The jealous 2views were right and somehow this was Mori's fault.

>> No.28042984

>>28037904
She passed the audition, so she deserved it.

>> No.28043057

>>28037904
Who gves a shit? She's gone.

>> No.28043064

>>28042984
>believing she of all people passed an audition
RUMAO

>> No.28043104

>>28038024
/thread

>> No.28043105

>>28038248
Is that why people like Gura, Mumei and Fauna can make it big many times over? Because of pure RNG? Lol, okay.

>> No.28043439

>>28040533
>She passed because nepotism
cool. got a proof? maybe something about cover's interview process and how much weight they give to what is usually the very last step, recommendations?
>There were probably 100+ other applicants more qualitfied for the spot than her.
awesome. but wait. if there's a 100 people more qualified, how do you choose someone? obviously you can't just choose one single person. you have to hire all the 100 people!

>> No.28043501

>>28038024
The only one who deserves a spot in hololive is Sora, the rest should be fired.

>> No.28043583

>>28043501
Based and Ankimopilled.

>> No.28043614

>>28043439
Gamers literally has outright stated that they're nepotism hires and there's others in JP.
You'd have to be an idiot to believe it's just a fucking coincidence that Ina's friend just HAPPENED to pass the audition despite being the only person in EN with 0 experience in streaming or video content creation.

>> No.28043855

>>28043439
It was merely a coincidence that she was childhood friends with a member that had friends in upper management
And JP has a lot of nepotism too, but nearly 90% of the streamers came from the same scene, what are the fuckin chances that with auditions from the entire world, ina's friend who is barely an streamer gets in hololive?

>> No.28043977

>>28037904
Yes
Yes they were right to blame mori

>> No.28043996

>>28043614
>>28043855
Sana can graduate and she still brings that delicious salt from irrelevant 2views and their fans. Thank you for your work, dear Astrogirl.

>> No.28044033

>>28038024
mumei and bae are fine. don't know about fauna as i don't watch her.
kroni is fine but her design should have being used with someone else.

>> No.28044044

>>28043614
>>28043855
repeating the rrat for the thousandth time doesn't make it anything more than a rrat.

>> No.28044067

>>28044033
>kroni is fine but her design should have being used with someone else.
kronii with baes design would be kino

>> No.28044109

Sana was kinda in a rock and a hard place, she'd get shit regardless of if she streamed little or left the company.
Compared to how bad the EN scene can be though, it was probably for the best they got her.

>> No.28044135

>>28044033
>kroni is fine but her design should have being used with someone else.
Kroniis design should've never been used with anyone.

>> No.28044175

>>28043996
>>28044044
>muh you're a 2view
>muh you can't prove anything
Eat shit takokeks, I hope ina's next for even telling Sana about auditions.

>> No.28044196

>>28037904
Life isn't about deserve or not. It's about making the best of your circumstances.
That is to say, 2view bitches should spend less time bitching and more time networking and streaming.

>> No.28044202

>>28044109
isn't it funny
>sana streams a lot
>she's compensating for lack of popularity
>sana doesn't stream
>she's lazy
people just want to hate her

>> No.28044229

The Ina nepotism rrat has all been proven now, there is no way Cover hired her if she wanted this to just be a side gig from the start. Either Cover really fucked up with the Council hires, or this will be the last time they hire someone based on a recommendation from a member

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>>28044175
Seethe

>> No.28044255

>>28043855
>It was merely a coincidence that she was childhood friends with a member that had friends in upper management
wait her and ina are childhood friends? ina lived in australia?

>> No.28044258

>>28037904
I'd say her viewership and lack of enthusiasm for just about anything related to the job speaks for itself, anyone who thinks otherwise is coping hard

>> No.28044275

>>28044202
>fix 1 problem. now everything if fine and perfect!
that is not how the world works anon.

>> No.28044286

>>28044044
JP holos get recommendations from their friends inside all the time and like 3/4 of the company are Mel's friend, nepotism isn't anything rare in cover so why do you think this is completely impossible? Sana was just a bad rep, that's all

>> No.28044310

>>28037904
why can't a 2view just join another org? or if they're so good be a solo debut like irys was

>> No.28044341

>>28044255
They've told stories about playing pokemon together as children

>> No.28044383

>>28044229
I think this is the last time they do it for EN.
Every time they did it for JP it was a resounding success.
Taught them a valuable lesson about western work ethics and how westerners don't feel shame after recommending someone who literally didn't do what they got hired for.

>> No.28044400

>>28038469
So when is Anya going to develop that following?

>> No.28044465

>>28044400
I don't know where you've been but her numbers have been better than some of the NijiEN girls lately.

>> No.28044485

>>28044286
>like 3/4 of the company are Mel's friend,
how are mels suggestions always so good?

>> No.28044579

>>28044465
That's not really a high bar, is it.

>> No.28044592

>>28044400
anya cant be blamed she's competing with like the super rookies of hololive. have to deal with ollie and reine.
and then fucking kobo

>> No.28044670

>>28044485
they did their streaming reps before joining

>> No.28044823

>>28044383
>Taught them a valuable lesson about western work ethics and how westerners don't feel shame after recommending someone who literally didn't do what they got hired for.
As a person recommending somebody else, you might take some responsibility for it, but in the end of the day, you can't be held responsible if somebody is willing to wipe their ass with your trust.

>> No.28044862

>>28044229
I don't think this will be the last time Cover will do so, but they'll make sure to look at the prospect's history at this point.
Still, I doubt this will scare off any company. One instance of talent didn't pan out, but still leaving on good terms. That's still pretty low and wasn't that huge a gamble.

>> No.28044873

>>28044383
>>28044823
only reason sana flunked out was because she didn't want to do art streams, ina put her in an impossible position.

>> No.28045154

>>28043996
You don't have to be a 2view fanboy to realize that hiring Sana just cost every single fan of HoloEN 1 potential oshi and years of entertainment. Any other qualified applicant would have been better because they would have atleast streamed and we would have had a full EN2 gen. Instead, all we got was a lazy fucking Australian bogan who barely streamed and gave up instantly. Atleast they will never listen to Ina again so thats good.

>> No.28045218

>>28044873
>ina put her in an impossible position.
????
What is this cope the dumb sanalites coming with

>> No.28045258

>>28045154
council is only okay i really don't think sana stole a spot from anyone crazy good if the other 4 got in the normal way.

>> No.28045385

>>28038024
Bae mumei and fauna are fine the rest can fuck off easily.

>> No.28045396

>>28045154
>Any other qualified applicant would have been better
You have a list of these qualified applicants? No? I didn't think so.

>> No.28045420

>>28045258
I agree with you in terms of council being mostly just okay but the thing is that pretty much anyone who would have just been a decent and consistent streamer would have made plenty of people happy. Thats what i'm trying to say. It could have been literally any of the 100s of applicants instead of Sana and atleast there would have been a streamer and probably some people's oshi. But this is what we got instead.

>> No.28045529

>>28045396
Better another applicant who would actually stream would be better than sana and probably would've been more successful than sana. I know you are going to miss those titties but that's no reason to act illogically.

>> No.28045589

>>28045396
Why would i need a list? There were many who had interviews for the spots or applied that had prior streaming/content making experience you fucking retard and any of them would have been better. Muh stramer who doesn't stream. Kys

>> No.28045592 [DELETED] 

>>28037904
Connor was right and will always be right.

>> No.28045671

>>28045529
Sana was literally nothing to me. But the should've/could've/would've handwringing of you and your kind is highly entertaining. Your crystal balls are so shiny.

>> No.28045684

>>28044229
>Either Cover really fucked up with the Council hires

But they did.
>bf
>depression clock who hates being an idol
>bf
>ina's friend who hates being an idol

Unironically only the rrat was ogey.

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>>28045589
>There were many who had interviews for the spots or applied that had prior streaming/content making experience
Proof in next thread?

>> No.28045788

>>28044255
Yes, Ina and Sana knew each other for a long time and hung out with each other as artists. Ina mentioned that when playing Pokémon Shining Pearl I don´t know if this meabs hat Ina has lived in Australia at some point, but that seems possible.

>> No.28045806 [DELETED] 

>>28038024
/thread

>> No.28045830

>>28039285
Bruh, you're making more enemies today than Germany during WW2.

>> No.28045852

>>28045766
If you need proof that there were more than 5 applicants to hololive en gen 2 you are so beyond retarded that there is no point in talking to you. Now neck yourself sanalite

>> No.28045860 [DELETED] 

>>28038117
Big reason why they seethe at Pippa and Kiki. They hate authenticity.

>> No.28045917

>>28045852
So no proof. Just "muh nepotism".

>> No.28045933

>>28045671
The lack of streams is what killed sana. I'm sorry this bothers you but that's the truth. Some body else who would stream would've been a better option than sana. Sana is remembered for nothing except that one bbc joke. That's it.

>> No.28045979

>>28045396
She's fucking leaving so they would have been better just by existing

>> No.28045980 [DELETED] 

>>28037904
desu, no one deserved a spot in Hololive, not even the nips. They're all untalented in their own rights which is why actual talented streamers like Kiki and Beatani are shunned for their authenticity elsewhere except for here.

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>>28037904
>takes the spot of girls who actually love vtubing
>does fucking nothing for months
>leaves without giving any further explanation
Sana is a bad person and she should feel bad about it.

>> No.28046076 [DELETED] 

>>28045980
This but unironically.

>> No.28046145

without sana there is no council

>> No.28046165

>>28045396
Pomu

>> No.28046168

Don't be like Sana:

>Stream twice a month.
>Always has an excuse to not stream.
>Almost forget to advertise her fake birthday.
>Invest in merch
>Wonders why she didn't made enough money in merch sales

>> No.28046466

If he hasn't been fired yet, Omega must be in shambles because one Council graduation really fucks over his entire chuuni lore. This is why you don't make a gen that relies on each other for their character backstories. If one of them graduates or dies the whole thing falls apart. Now we live in a universe with time but no space. Scientists are baffled.

>> No.28046619

>>28039285
Dumb numbernigger

>> No.28046659

>>28044341
>>28044255
They mean online friends on deviant art using online play in the original diamond pearl

>> No.28046687

>>28038024
fpbp

>> No.28046843

>>28046659
Sana talked about them having pajama parties.

>> No.28046884

I dont know but if you think nepotism is some kind of cardinal sin in the entertainment industry you must be really naive or literally 12

>> No.28046959

>>28046884
Its only a sin when they hire a talent who is shit which is the case here. No one is crying about gamers gen because they aren't shit.

>> No.28047013

the only person i'd rather have instead of sana is pippa.
I don't think it's right to imply she didn't contribute anything to the chemistry of council or that her streams no matter how few they were weren't interesting.
im sad to see her go but ultimately i think she was great while she was here i just wish she streamed her art more because that is probably something she really could have impressed many people with.

>> No.28047023

>>28046843
They travelled to visit one another later and went to Japan together, but they met on deviantart. Sana lived in Western Australia and ina in Canada. They did not live locally as children.

>> No.28047041

>>28046884
A shit hire getting a spot through nepotism is a sin because you've fucked the company out of potential earnings.

>> No.28047043

>>28038024
based

>> No.28047075

>>28047013
Pippa or pomu

>> No.28047124

>>28038024
fpbp

>> No.28047143

>>28046959
using gamers as an example couldn't we make a ratt to imply if sana had more support or a better start.
>Cover rebuilds her back
>Reincarnates her dog
Then she'd be the shining star of Council?
Korone and Okayu had bad starts in other places and did really well as livers so why not sana.

>> No.28047163

>>28047013
>>28047075
Why would you rather have Pippa or Pomu in Hololive when you can still watch them exactly as they are now

>> No.28047175

>>28044135
Irys should've had Kronni's model

>> No.28047203

>>28037904
yes
fuck off you'll never get in

>> No.28047263

>>28047175
What did I just say, retard?

>> No.28047316

>>28047163
I like them and I do watch them. My point was Sana was fine and unless she blocked either of them from entering hololive I don't think she stole a spot.
And being honest she probably didn't block them because there's no way Anyone on council is beating pippa or pomu in an interview if hololive recruiters have any sense.

>> No.28047326 [DELETED] 

>wah wah wah muh nepotism
>Sana bad, Niji good

>> No.28047368

>>28045684
>roberu rrat
>ogey
LMAO Baelz is the worst of them with her Holostar whore act

>> No.28047367

>>28039285
What? Mori is fucking boring as music talk is a snoozefest.

>> No.28047376

>>28047326
does niki have nepotism?

>> No.28047398

>>28039285
They hated him because he told the truth.

>> No.28047615

>>28045684
what's krooni's problem she's like the most popular member of council? her or mumei probably her and mumei people love that teetee.

>> No.28047643

>>28047163
Better than wasting a spot with sana

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>>28037904
>>28038024
Over the past year it seems like management shat the bed hard, pushing stupid shit like lore and harassing the girls into taking directions they didn't want while failing to get them to actually stream more than once a week when they were going through a fuckin slump. Just in general dropping the ball constantly and letting other companies muscle in with chinese women.

>> No.28047740

>>28038194
in a month not anymore

>> No.28047877

>>28037904
She was a great choice on paper
>cute voice and sweet personality
>highly talented artist with lots of fans
>already friends with one of the EN girls to help her fit in quickly
But none of that matters if she doesn't actually stream

>> No.28047996

>>28046843
Hot

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>>28047615
>what's krooni's problem
Can't deal with the dysphoria of having the most fuckable model.

>> No.28048054

>>28038437
God damn, teamates never fail to deliver. One of the only reasons I still come here, to see their mentally ill ramblings.

>> No.28048127

>>28046057
sounds like sigma activity to me.

>> No.28048228

>>28047615
She's canadian

>> No.28048234

>>28039285
Actually based take. Kronii and Fauna are the only holoEN members with any real talent when it comes to being an entertainer. The rest of the girls are just carried by "cute anime girl I want to seggggggs :DDDDD"

>> No.28048279

>>28039285
Worst taste in the thread by a mile

>> No.28048346

>>28043439
do not cry sanalite, everything will be ok, you still have 3 weeks, that should be like 1 entire hour of streams

>> No.28048532

>>28039285
I can live with this. Opinions that aren't just deepthroating /vt/ cock are worth reading.

>> No.28048539

>>28038024
I think everyone is fun to watch for me, I really like the trio of Mumei, Bae and Kronii
Fauna is a bit of a miss for me but her game streams are fun to watch

If we are talking about deserving though then probably Kronii doesn't deserve her spot? she just needs to stream a bit more frequently I THINK

>> No.28048643

>>28039285
It's funny how we have the complete opposite taste in council
I think Fauna and Kronii and super boring and bland but I really like Mumei and Bae
I like Ame the most too in myth

>> No.28048884

>>28037904
She certainly had potential, that's all I'll say

>> No.28048979

i feel so bad for ina
>finally get a sane coworker who isn't a phoney or a massive autist
>she leaves because she's tired of both

>> No.28049385

>>28048127
it's not something you should praise, we're the only ones losing here, that girl could've been your oshi but she was denied a position

>> No.28049443

>>28038940
>Literally any 0view retard would have been better than what we got.
But more than likely they'll be boring and you all will be shitting on them regardless.

>> No.28049716

>>28039909
I want a new space rep, I want a sixth ranger

>> No.28050405

>>28049443
Who knows but at least they wouldn't graduate after a year

>> No.28050453
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>>28048643
Fauna has the advantage of being the most educated/cultured in HoloEN in regards to traditional western literature.

Kronii is also well-read compared to the rest of HoloEN (hints of this in the Powerwash stream), but there's less to back up she's as much of a bookworm as Fauna.

Of course this doesn't make them entertaining vtubers by themselves, but it is a buff when others are just making funny noises while playing video games.

>> No.28050633

>>28038264
This. She's the only one that I can endure to watch.

>> No.28051654

>>28047023
and Ina talking about how, as kids, Sana destroyed her in pokemon battles?

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>>28038024

>> No.28056839

She was just starting to grow on me.

>> No.28057523

>>28044873
it's entirely on sana if she didn't want to use the one thing she's good at
>hire an artist
>never art streams
i don't know what she fucking expected, but then again my second point could just be shortened to
>never streams

>> No.28057849 [DELETED] 

I honestly don't think they could've gotten much worse girl than Sana

>> No.28057951

>>28051654
They played online motherfucker. She's talking about gen 4 -5 (when they were in middle school)

>> No.28058011 [DELETED] 

>>28047615
Her roomate is "non-binary" so she hates hating a sexy big titty model because it "clashes with her beliefs and identity" and people get horny for her and lewd her.
Imagine getting a design by fucking Wada Arc and then whine about it because big titties bad.
These fuckers are so ungrateful it's unreal.

>> No.28058194

>>28037904
Sure. It's just HoloEN.

>> No.28058904

>>28039285
How is it even possible that you only like the shittiest members? How did you achieve this level of retardation?

>> No.28058956

>>28037904
>jealous 2views
who?

>> No.28059241

>>28044400
>from 200-340 ccv to 1k-3k ccv
She is slowly but surely climbing that wall with no sign of stopping.

>> No.28059306

>>28045860
How the fuck is Pipa not corpo?

>> No.28060023

>>28037904
Quitted after a year. A very bad business result for Cover. Their scouting or management method has critical flaws. But also thanks to EN management.

>> No.28060194

>>28041515
She's just built different

>> No.28060659

>>28045684
mumei has a BF? Since when?

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>>28037904
>did way less than bare minimum
>never made jokes or was any kind of entertaining
>Did't show up for work
>Collabed with noone
>Took a month+ hiatus only 3 weeks after debut
>Only got into hololive because her irl friend Ina put her reputation on the line to get her in

>> No.28061197

>>28044873
I cant believe ina had the audacity to give sana a once in a lifetime opportunity. this terrible monster put our cute astro cinnamon roll into such a difficult position :(

>> No.28061399

>>28045766
rumao

>> No.28062266

>>28043105
Gura and mumei made it big once. “Making it” in Hololive doesn’t count. It’s guaranteed success.

>> No.28062436

>>28038134
Yea I don't understand that part at all.

>> No.28062636

absolute dumpster fire of a thread, spurious rrats with zero evidence
If Ina did anything to get Sana in, it was personally walk her through the audition and interview process. The rest was up to Sana
It didn't work out. She hurt her back and likely decided splitting time between Hololive and illustration wasn't going to be feasible with her issues. Way too uphill a battle to make up the lost time when she took a break for her dog.
But yeah
>conspiracy nonsense

>> No.28063649

>>28062266
Yet nobody in Hololive has even half of Gura's subs. Strange. It's almost like she has something that makes her a good streamer instead of it being pure RNG. Nah, couldn't be.

>> No.28063795

>>28062636
>She hurt her back and likely decided splitting time between Hololive and illustration wasn't going to be feasible with her issues. Way too uphill a battle to make up the lost time when she took a break for her dog.
Doesn't explain the lack of everything before the dog/back incidents anon.

>> No.28063930 [DELETED] 

>>28037904
She streamed like 3 times in a year

>> No.28064041

>>28063795
What? She streamed a fuckton the in the few months before before the dog/back stuff.

>> No.28066828

>>28037904
Someone had to join Niji because of her. No forgiveness.

>> No.28066975

>>28039285
Based actually watches streams anon

>> No.28068524

>>28062636
>If Ina did anything to get Sana in, it was personally walk her through the audition and interview process. The rest was up to Sana
proofs?

>> No.28070541

>>28068524
watch streams

>> No.28070621

>>28060659
Since before joining hololive.

>> No.28071015

>>28040136
>>28040323
I wouldn't read that as a performance based non renewal, they've never been into performance based cuts. If that where the case ID, holostars, and probably a solid sixth of jp would've been axed a long time ago.

It's more likely a non renewal is coming from sana having some complication. eg been hearing something about her having back problems, and that she also works as an artist.

>> No.28072638

>>28037904
>Did she deserve a spot in Hololive?
No and regardless of wether she is a nepotism hire or not, she failed as a streamer and that's that
>Were the jealous 2views right?
If i had to be honest, they are but at the same time who knows which indie would have gotten in instead of her. In one hand we could have gotten someone who was much better than the rest of council and would have been a potential oshi for many dudes but on the other hand we could've gotten a whore who could've dragged it down so i'm not going to scold Sana too much for taking their spot.

>> No.28072675

>>28063649
being big memes before and during hololive isn't exactly good, but it's big numbers. we've only forced two men into hiding over her so far though, so it's not a big deal

>> No.28073457

>>28040458
but entire council is a relative flop

>> No.28074286

>>28041515
Don't use Kaela. That girl is far more addicted to Minecraft compared to Kronii she collected over 20 elytras offstream and she still stream at midnight to morning Jakarta time.

If you want to compare her, maybe with more casual schedule like Fubuki or Subaru.

>> No.28074328

Cover told her she was graduating to put a fire under her ass and it's working, they're going to inform her a day before her graduation date that it was all a stunt. And then there will be a happy ending and dad will come home.

>> No.28074443

>>28071015
Art was always her main job, she was a bigger artist than Ina. She is also slow at drawing and needs more time. Having to choose between her art job and hololive she chose art.

>> No.28074446

>>28039353
Check again

>> No.28074481

>>28064041
Antis have no taste for the truth.

>>28063649
Yeah, cunny.

>> No.28074524

>>28070541
So nothing then. Concession accepted.

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>>28058956

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>>28074534
>reject

>> No.28074674

>>28074602
That tranny is also a nijisister. Go figure

>> No.28074711

>>28074674
color me shocked

>> No.28075615

>>28074524
Sorry dipshit, got better things to do than sort through Ina’s streams from the last 4-6 months. Do your fuckin reps threadreader

>> No.28075671

>>28074534
I legitimately don't understand why people do this. They have to realize that it doesn't simply prevent them from getting hired by Cover but by any Corporation. Nobody is going to want to touch that. Who she is and what she said WILL leak out eventually, maybe even before debut, and the reputation hit will be too much. I do find it hilariously ironic that angry woke twittards are getting themselves preemptively canceled in their career of choice for shit they say online though.

>> No.28075812

>>28048532
>Hates Kiara
>Opinions that aren't just deepthroating /vt/ cock are worth reading.
Oh but that anon is deepthroating /vt/ cock, in fact most anons also like Gura

>> No.28076079

Even if you don't like her you should ritualistically rub one out for her before she graduates.

>> No.28078022

>>28038024
Fpbp

>> No.28078337

>>28075671
Young women are not smart. Their souls craving for attention and that's it.

>> No.28078405

>>28038024
Fungus Covid was right.

>> No.28078473

>>28038501
The problem is that it's impossible to tell when you're taking a risk and choosing content creators like Sana and Kronii instead of actual streamers who can be judged on the hours they put in per week. They could have aced the interviews, given all the right answers and ended up being... what they are.

>> No.28078567

>>28040571
As a sapling I honestly think ASMR is one of faunas weakest content. She shines in free talks, and is fun with games and her Karaoke is bad but soulful

>> No.28078672

>>28039285
>Kronii and Fauna are super interesting
the fuck are you smoking?

>> No.28079452

>>28044400
right after she develops her breasts again

>> No.28080391

I honestly feel like she could've been really good if she'd just been able to stream more. I thought her debut stream was fun and she had a really fucking bizarre sense of humour that was appealing in it's own way. Plus she tended to play games I liked and was shockingly knowledgable about pokemon which I personally kind of appreciate.

>> No.28080546

luv guumba
simple as

>> No.28080696

>>28039285
Ame used to be good, I guess we just need to wait for her to do interesting stuff outside streaming/the occasional good joke now.

>> No.28080805

>>28074481
there aren't that many people into cunny.

>> No.28080870

>>28038089
Council literally the best that could happen to holoen.

Only the rat was questionable. Mori, Irys and that chicken were far worse.

>> No.28081224

>>28080805
All the young looking models that are child friendly get large audiences. Blue girls.

>> No.28081792

>>28045396
I applied to council during the 2nd open audition. Still have the copy of my application in my Gmail.

>> No.28082020

>>28075671
Twitter wokies were never the brightest bulbs out there

>> No.28082278

>>28049385
That's why you shouldn't follow corpo slaves, retardchama

>> No.28082353

only council member i watched so yeah.

>> No.28082554

>>28046466
Why do people even bring up Omega anymore? He's been gone since January.

>> No.28083078

>>28075671
>Implying anyone would want to hire that unstable troon

>> No.28085993

>People need it spelled out to them that an obvious nepotism hire is, in fact, a nepotism hire

>> No.28086752

>>28038437
Yes Ame calms my heart and is very entertaining, Ame will always have special time for me

>> No.28086849

>>28041515
AH SOMEONE WITH A NORMAL SCHEDULE PLEASE?

Like Fauna.....Fubuki??? KORONE?

>> No.28086897

>>28045154
YOU KNOW THATS ACTUALLY PRETTY TRUE, I MEAN AT LEAST AYAME DIDNT FUCKING LEAVE AND CREATE SAD DRAMA

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>>28038024
ESL but correct

>> No.28087159

>>28074534
This narrative that new talent having immediate popularity before even debuting is somewhat weird is so baffling to me, fucking cannur.
This shit happens in actual Idol companies too, new hires by an already established idol companies are hyped as shit. We just don't do it in the West but if the Backstreet Boys or the Spice Girls were generational, it would be huge news when new people are added.

>> No.28087572

>>28039285
>Mori is ok
Opinion discarded

>> No.28089327

>>28037904
Maybe not, but I'm glad she got it anyway since I wouldn't have found this sweetheart otherwise.

>> No.28090043

>>28074674
and a tranny no doubt.
i watched his stream and holy shit thats a mans voice:D

>> No.28092464

>>28078567
guess im salty that bethyva didnt get hired

>> No.28095982

>>28037904
Yes
No
It's pretty simple, she had more potential than other applicants. Her potential was enough to give her a chance, despite the risks. End of story.

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Reminder

>> No.28096310

>>28096045
rmao

>> No.28097879

>>28038024
This. If Council was the generation Cover used to debut in the west, they would be ID tier for sure. The only reason they are relevant at all is because Myth literally became the most important VTuber group in the world, shattering expectations and securing notoriety and success for any and all EN generations in the future, or maybe until Myth graduates.
The worst piece of shit streamer Council picked up is by far Mumei. Talentless, awkward, retarded, shits the mood when she's with the other girls. Literal garbage whore.
Fauna is the only decent one and the only one who could justify her spot in EN as a branch.
Council was, and will always be, a mistake, and they will all be gone before Myth.

>> No.28100108

>>28039285
Agree. The only one I watch on the reg is Fauna. I've seen Mumei be interesting in collabs, but I've also seen her be really not interesting
Agree that Gura is the only one worth watching in Myth, but I also agree with the other poster that interesting isn't the right word, because she never has new perspectives or interesting things to talk about, she's always just the same old Gura

>> No.28100150

>>28040571
Yeah but I don't listen to that cringe shit

>> No.28101232

>>28037904
no

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