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28627634 No.28627634 [Reply] [Original]

>Hololive reveals HolostarsEN
>’designs are bad’
>NijiEN capitalises on this and reveals their new gen which all look good
Hololive losing?
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_world/status/1549544615635628033

>> No.28627711

NijiEN designs are gay as fuck I'd much rather watch the Holostars guys.

>> No.28627729

>>28627634
cover getting spitroast by vshojo and niji

>> No.28627833

>males and females together
Glad to see they dropped the pretense that nijiEN is for anything but normalfags

>> No.28627846

>>28627634
Who gived a fuck about niji lmao

>> No.28627885

>>28627711
What a cope. Omega. Stop lurking here

>> No.28627952

>>28627634
for the shit sounding voices, should I blame the voice mixer or the VAs themselves?

>> No.28627966

>>28627833
>>28627711
is this cope?

>> No.28627985
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>> No.28628004

>>28627634
Good, as a holochad I hope homostars EN fails and they all get fired.
Cancerous fujo and normalfag audience should stay with NijiCN.

>> No.28628080

>>28627634
>those voices
JP keeps winning

>> No.28628102

>>28627885
>>28627966
What fucking cope? Did you watch the fucking trailer?
They all look and sound like they suck dick and the girls are mid as fuck.
This is the worst NijiEN gen design wise.

>> No.28628105

>>28627711
>>28627833
>>28627846
Embarrassing lmfao

>> No.28628260

>>28627634
Designs aren't that good but they're still leagues above homoEN.

>> No.28628362

>>28627985
Kek

>> No.28628414

>>28627634
I'm not going to root for males ever so you can do whatever you want with your all out war. Please make them graduate as soon as possible too.

>> No.28628563

This proves just how easy it is to get good designs and art styles.
Hololive just keeps shitting the bed and it's probably Omegatroons fault.

>> No.28628649

>>28628102
I would kill Omega for mid design for our stars though, that would be a huge improvement.

>> No.28628655

I mostly watch Holo but goddamn this is the mogging of the century. How did they screw up so badly?

>> No.28628757

>>28627985
Heh

>> No.28628791
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28628791

>Niji en is now more male than female

>> No.28628828

>>28628649
Just shows Cover never had any faith in EN Stars, they shouldn't have bothered.

>> No.28628901

>>28627952
obvious the VA

>> No.28628910

>>28628102
Hololive released the first vtuber with Downs and this is the only retort you can muster?

>> No.28628931

Does anyone besides NijiEN fans even care about the what 30th member of NijiEN? They're all so forgetable. Hands are iconic.

>> No.28628933

>>28627711
Finally.. someone say it

>> No.28629003

>>28627634
>NijiEN capitalises on this and reveals their new gen which all look good
Unless they somehow knew what the Stars looked like months ago, it's not possible. More likely because they copy pasted their previous male wave and people laughed at it.

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>>28628102
>holoturd saying something is bad, when he has this at home

>> No.28629100

>>28628931
Most people here will only care enough to use them to shipost on holostarsEN.

>> No.28629146

>>28628910
Yes because they look gay as fuck and clearly aimed at fujos.
Will you deny this or would you rather keel calling the holostars ugly?
Not even denying they're ugly but I'd much rather watch ugly than gay.

>> No.28629198

>>28628791
?
No they don't it's now 13 and 13

>> No.28629249

>>28629070
Tell me that again... when it is revealed how fake the nijisanji's voice denote to sound younger than they look, and the holoen's dont force it.... NO CAP

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>>28629146
>Aimed at fujos

>> No.28629333

You realize that whether an outfit is aesthetically pleasing is subjective, right? That just because you don't like them that they're bad, right?

While I don't like Magni's design, I really do like the other three. The same can't be said for Nijisanji EN Gen 6. Maria's is the only one I like out of them. The rest... look like they all go to the same school, wear the same uniform, and are part of the same club. Talk about boring.

>> No.28629394

>>28629323
I want her to peg me

>> No.28629427

>>28628791
Doc ock can't count kek

>> No.28629428

>>28629146
I mean if i'm going to be honest the new gen is a bit femme but they have previously released "cooler" designs in both Noctyx and Luxiem

>> No.28629440

>>28629333
Cope

>> No.28629519

>>28629333
cope lol

>> No.28629543

>>28629323
Wouldn't it be funny if she's a white girl meanwhile the colombian got the pale white ghost.

>> No.28629575

>>28629323
This is a brown model down right, I would fuck her

>> No.28629608

>>28629333
The HolostarsEN designs are objectively bad tho. None of my friends like any of the fuckers. NijiEN 6th may be boring (they aren’t), but the Holostars are just plain forgettable. Not that difficult to see imo

>> No.28629615

Women: the thread

>> No.28629631

>>28629333
The girls look generic and lame as hell, only the one with boobs stands out because she has boobs but there are tons of much more interesting girls with boobs.

>> No.28629703
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>>28627634
Tempus DOA, feels good to stay winning holochads

>> No.28629717

I was excited for Amare for a moment due to braid, but then I read her tweets
what a shame

>> No.28629755

>>28629631
Half of the entire hologirls roster look generic. Have you ever seen matsuri? Do you even watch hololive? Lmfao

>> No.28629798

Gay model again and again and again

>> No.28629890

>>28627985
get magged op

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>>28627711
You typed through tears.

>> No.28629922

>>28628931
You're not supposed to like everyone you dingus. I stopped watching NijiEN because I was away for a few days and felt like the entire branch became a reality TV where you had to watch every episode to understand all new interactions, new talents mean I can "start" again without losing any relevant context not to mention it brings more variety.
Design-wise they're decent, overdesigned but much more consistent than Mr. Hands and Alucard (the other two are ok).

>> No.28629937

>>28629323
SEEEEEEEEEEEX
I WANT TO BE DOMINATED BY HER

>> No.28629994

>going to be as shitty and boring as every other nijiEN

>> No.28630065

Niji making HomoEN irrelevant at the birth. Thank you Niji from this Holobrony.

>> No.28630151

>>28629755
Matsuri is a gen 1 Hololive member, she came out ages ago when there was only a fraction of the vtubers we have today.
She might very well be the most generic girl in her company and she still had a somewhat interesting outfit and stood out from the rest of her genmates in art style and fashion design.
Even a GEN 1 vtuber looks more unique than these brand new ILUNA girls who all look generic and like they came from the same artist and the same fashion store.

>> No.28630158

>>28629994
HoloEN always been more boring tho. Not that hard to see imo

>> No.28630316

>>28629917
I actually want Holostars to crash and burn so they never bother releasing more males into the west.
Just saying they look better than the homo pandering of Nijisanji.

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>>28627634
Art consistency does some great things for a full gen.

>> No.28630365

>>28629994
And HoloEN will turn into an even more boring NijiEN in a few days, cope.

>> No.28630379

>>28630151
>she still had a somewhat interesting outfit and stood out from the rest of her genmates in art style and fashion design
crying laughing emoji

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This is Holoturd right now

>> No.28630523

Nooo they're not gay , Luxiem don't have gay content

>> No.28630593

>>28630151
A lot of words to say you're gay. I'm getting some brown titty in my mouth.

>> No.28630605

>>28627634
EN3 and HomoEN are all Niji rejects. No one can refute this.

>> No.28630745

All magfags are ironic shitposters anyway, Tempus has no fans.

>> No.28630781

>>28630605
Or prove it.

>> No.28630803
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>> No.28630835

>mixed gen
More like mixed failure.

>> No.28630895

HoloEN > pewdiepie , XQC
NijiEN > series y , BL

>> No.28630930

>>28627711
We don't even know if any of the new chuubas are going to be entertaining in terms of conversations or have good game tastes. NijiEN is definitely leaning into twink designs for the dudes but I'm still not sure what the Holostars can bring yet either.

>> No.28631071

>>28627634
Diluting their 'livers' viewerbase?
Diluting their 'livers' viewerbase!

>> No.28631080

>>28627634
The Niji designs are shit. You can't be serious? It's the same low budget visual novel garbage we always get from Niji. Their rigging will also be cardboard tier awful while Holostars EN will have great rigging.

>> No.28631196

>>28630523

KEK

https://youtu.be/xOGQonRS2qE

>> No.28631215

>>28628563
>probably Omegatroons
It's 100% his fault. The artists they got aren't even bad but whoever was at charge at supervising their designs (which is highly likely to be Omega) was fine with the product they got.

>> No.28631257

>>28627952
Mixer. All the other trailers sounded weird as fuck too.

>> No.28631260

>>28630835
Does that even matter at this point?
Anyone that wanted a same sex experience already left the company anyway.

>> No.28631300

I'm a holobrony but the Niji character designs are obviously better. Voices are kind of shit though

>> No.28631360

>>28631080
>while Holostars EN will have great rigging
You ruined it, learn to falseflag then try again.

>> No.28631383

>>28631300
>obviously better

Yeah , They're so fucking gay

>> No.28631399

>>28631300
>I'm a holobrony
said no holofag ever

>> No.28631523

>>28629543
in my experience Colombians are pasty motherfuckers

>> No.28631532

>>28630781
EN3 will come out after Wave 6 (if they ever come out at all). Homo EN will debut after two male focused waves. I am willing to bet at lease one person from EN3 and HomoEN applied to Niji and was rejected. Ergo, EN3 and HomoEN are Niji rejects.

>> No.28631626

>>28630930
The people wanted shotas. They gave us shotas.

>> No.28631677

>>28631532
Why would EN3 be Niji rejects when HoloEN is still more popular than the Niji girls?

>> No.28631698

>>28627634
>Scarle
Imagine getting a typo for your name

>> No.28631812

>>28631698
Scarlet was too generic, they had to be original.

>> No.28631874

>>28629323
You know, I might finally watch a Niji.

>> No.28631901

>>28631532
Like I said. No proof.

>> No.28631961

>>28630835
This isn’t Holo.

>> No.28631972

Can't believe that Hololive EN is losing in all front against their rivals because the management is fucking incompetent. Let be honest here, Tempus is set to fucking fail.

>> No.28632026

>>28627634
>New NijiEN Wave was better Design
>Have "Terrible" Voice, especially Kyo

NOPE, NOPE, NOPE

>> No.28632034

>>28631677
Council barely does better than top Niji girls and HoloEN has horrible reputation among streamers.

>> No.28632063

>>28627985
based

>> No.28632131

JUST HAVE GURA SHILL THE NEW FUCKING HOMOFAGGOTS YOU STUPID YAGOO
JUST HAVE HER DO KARAOKE AND ATTHE END
"HEY YOU SHOULD WATCH THESE FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT"
HOW HARD IS THAT HOLY SHIT
YOU'RE MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES AS WITH THE JP SHARTS

>> No.28632163

>>28629070
I unironically want to play a JRPG with these characters

>> No.28632164

>>28632034
Ah, we have entered the fan fiction stage of this thread.

>> No.28632183

>>28631972
That's actually a power move.
Holostars EN has to fail so Hololive EN can succeed.
There shouldn't even be a male gen at all, it's just gonna hurt the girls in the long run.
At least by sabotaging it they ensure they get exiled and forgotten to protect the girls. Sasuga omega, you are saving HoloEN.

>> No.28632221

New Niji designs are better, but I find that it is hard to get invested in them with the rapidfire approach to debuts they do. I couldn’t name you a single one from Gens 3 or 5, and I was honestly surprised to remember that there are five members of Gen 4 rather than two.

>> No.28632232

>>28632131
80% of Gura’s fanbase are sexless diabetic incels, though. Have you considered how they’d react when their body pillow figure collabs with m-m-males?

>> No.28632234

>>28629323
would be very disapointed if isn't a sexy latina girl

>> No.28632261

>>28632131
SEETHE MORE
They should have joined the company that actually caters to women instead.
Holostars will ALWAYS be an afterthought. They cannot stand for themselves. They are a waste of everyone's time.

>> No.28632266

>>28629543
reimu is pale

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>>28631532
>Holostars EN are Niji Rejects.
That makes sense, everyone with a brain and a dick knows that covers awful at managing male talent.

>EN3 are Niji Rejects.

Literally the only reason any girl would try Niji first is if they were a Femcel who wanted to fuck one of the boys, Hololive still has a dominating lead with their female talents.

>> No.28632326

>>28632131
this is why we hate gura
4 million dead subs

>> No.28632337

>>28629323
>Collab with Males 24/7
DOA

>> No.28632361

>>28631300
Realtalk, bro. The Niji designs have always been generic in the sense that they're all good and all fujobait. There's no character, soul or archetype diversity. In other words, they're all interchangeable, and that makes them cheap. Likewise, the lack of barriers between genders makes it a cuckold simulator fit only for fujos and faggots. That's why Vox is the only nijiguy whose name I even remember, because he's just sort of symbolic of all male nijisanji vtubers the same way Kuzuha is in Japan. No, wait, I also remember Ex Albio and Touya, so from a male perspective Niji EN is even less memorable than a branch I never got into and can't understand, solely because they all seem to pander to the exact same segment of the market.

In contrast, you can at least tell the homostars apart from each other, and their hilarious designs are individually recognizable (for better or worse). So while Niji might have the fujo market locked down, all they've been doing is doubling down on what they've already succeeded at, and have only been accelerating straight into a wall.

>> No.28632379

>>28632221
Subjective. I barely know HoloEN Gen 2 besides Mumei and the brown bitch who’s about to graduate. None of them seem to be particularly memorable.

>> No.28632437

>Magni "shitty design" Dezmond
>35.5K subscribers already
are they losing?

>> No.28632447

>>28632131
You want them dead?

>> No.28632450

>>28629323
>Not screenshotting the whole tweet for the pegging/futa joke
Shameful

>> No.28632473

>>28632361
tldr

>> No.28632499

>>28632164
It's amazing how these people created this image of Council and never changed, even when their top 3 talents are only doing worse than Gura on average (and curiously they're all part of the same sub-unit).

>> No.28632526

>>28627634
Good. Hololive fucked up by trying to be Niji. NijiEN won, let HoloEN crash and burn. I kneel to Nijikings. I dumped my Holo oshi and membered Selen.

>> No.28632539

>>28632131
I don't care if I'm labeled a schizo but have you been following the scene since StarsEN was announced? It's clear EN management wasn't interested but was forced by someone higher up so now they're doing the bare minimum.
If it fails they'll say "I told you so" and in the remote chance it succeeds they will be happy for making bank without caring much in the first place.

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>>28632261
jp had an excuse, EN has no excuse at all, the only reason a male talent should sign up with holostars is if they're a 2 View who's already been rejected by niji.

>> No.28632553

>>28627634
>semen-colored cuck wave

>> No.28632630

>>28627729
kek

>> No.28632648

>>28632473
HomosJP>NijiEN, NijiJP males sort of ok too.

>> No.28632709

>>28632526
you are a worthless dog that hides between his tail between his legs at any sight of downfall. No niji wants you spineless fuck. Should've stuck with niji when you had the chance

>> No.28632778

>>28629323
yum

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>>28627634
this girl got into nijisanji. whats your excuse?

>> No.28632813

>>28627634
I like their funny faces. Got enough good looking vtuber models so this is great

>> No.28632816

>>28632648
YWNBJ

>> No.28632842

>>28627711
lol no holosharts are literal eyesores compared
>calling anything gay as fuck when literally defending homos
lmao homosexual

>> No.28632878

>>28632361
Nobody can tell the Homolive faggots from each other. Be realistic.

>> No.28632889

>>28632361
That's an interesting way of putting it.
I actually thought NijiEN had avoided the generic designs so far, at least with the girls.
They all had a clear fantasy theme and color palette But the JP girls all look the same, I can't tell any of them apart.

>> No.28632894

>>28632808
*breaks NDA*

>> No.28632988

>>28632709
ok teakek

>> No.28632996

>>28632526
>NijiEN won
Among women. But no matter how many gay pretty boys Niji shits out, straight men will never be interested in either gay pretty boys or seeing their oshi get metaphorically dicked down by them.

There's no greater shame or disrespect than having a female Niji as your oshi, and I say this as someone who likes a few of those characters.

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>>28632361
>>28632889
Take it easy.

>> No.28633107

>>28630158
Being better than holoEN is not a high bar to reach anon.
At this point if only one of them isn't going petra-like snorefest or VC collabspam i would consider iluna a good gen

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>>28627985

>> No.28633196

>>28632549
The thing is, I genuinely can't tell if the EN Stars made that much worse of a decision going to Hololive instead of NijiEN.
Yeah the Stars generally had it rough, but the flip side is that you'll probably have less competition internally. NijiEN already has 10 dudes, and now they're adding another 2 (3?) to the roster. They'll probably spread the Luxiem fans too thin in terms of money and attention.

>> No.28633202

>>28632996
cuck cope. I can now watch niji and Selen freely without worrying about males because they are not trying to be pretend idols that are actually whores. Shut your face and keep watching ame while she tells the lie that she hasnt talked to the guys while she gets accidnelty exposed by her friends.

>> No.28633240

>>28632549
To be fair with the EN homostars they had no way of knowing how Cover would handle their branch.
Hololive is the biggest vtuber agency in the market so maybe they expected that hype and audience to carry over to the male branch too.
Maybe it will. We really have no clue yet.
But if they debut to poor reception and NijiEN males keep making big numbers it would become clear to everybody that Niji should be the first choice for male vtubers and hololive is the second option.

>> No.28633384

>>28633240
The one guaranteed benefit to holostars is that they know there likely won't be much competition, and as mediocre as their numbers are the JP guys do get a fair amount of internal support. Things like outfits are practically guaranteed, for example

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28633409

>>28632549
meanwhile...

>> No.28633459

Holobronies just can't stop losing.
First it was vshojo and now even nijien is dabbing on them

>> No.28633547

>>28633240
>To be fair with the EN homostars they had no way of knowing how Cover would handle their branch.
Anyone with half a brain could see it if they knew at least a thing about StarsJP. The only difference is that their performance won't be accounted for things like >>28633384 described, but otherwise if any of them are numberfags and expect HoloEN numbers then they'll be sorely disappointed, and it's probably going to be even worse now that Niji will debut their new wave the day after their own.

>> No.28633565

>>28629323
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.28633593

>>28633196
These designs are not the same as previous ones, the guys in this wave are a shota and trap, and demon who looks pretty normal stylistically. So you're going to have a different audience than Luxiem. Also there's the diminishing returns problem. Since Noctyx was modeled after Luxiem, they were never going to be as successful, as Luxiem fans simply do not want to leave their oshi. In vtubing you want to be the first in whatever style of design you want to go for to avoid being thought of as a discount.

>> No.28633624

>>28633459
Daily reminder that for baits to work, they have to be based on reality at least a little.

>> No.28633641

>>28633107
Not being fond of “VC collabspams” is quite literally means you get to chill with friends a lot, if you even have any.

>> No.28633679

>6 designs
>only 2 are good
AIEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.28633682

>>28627634
I am not defending males but its never about the avatar. Your voice and personality are what matters the most. Lost of vtubers out there with shit avatars who still get a lot of views.

>> No.28633687

>>28633196
there's just no way yet to see how well StarEN will be received.. if StarsJP is any indication, they might be in an uphill battle right from the moment they signed their contract

and while I agree that within NijiEN there's more competition as a dude to stand out, the fact that they're able to collab with anyone within their branch can give them a fair boost

>> No.28633699

>>28633240
When Omega is the one handling it, it should be quite evident.

>> No.28633732

>>28627634
Op cursed them and they are all cringe

>> No.28633730

>>28633459
Sad! Now that they want to collab with dudes fine. But they are mostly boring as fuck, i can legit go watch Kson or Selen and actually be entertained. The hologirls have nothing of value anymore. They cant even sing and dance, except maybe gura and kiara its over they might as well go indie

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>>28629198
>>28629427
Wait
What if anon knows something we don't?

>> No.28633832

>>28633409
Roberu is only where he is because he's powerful enough to push through the Stars debuff, every scrap of success the Stars have they've payed for with blood and tears.

Its so much easier to get started in Nijisanji so long as you have actual talent and charisma, If roberu was a Niji streamer he'd have twice the subscribers at least.

Holo brand is a debuff on men and a buff on women.

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>>28633624
Holobrony…

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>>28632878
Axel is Bane, Noir is Alucard, Magni is Mr. Hands, while Altare is the token pretty boy. In contrast, I don't know who or what the nijis are supposed to be (aside from fujobait) or why I should care enough to remember their names.
>>28632894
Based. That one actually cares about her fans. I hope she does well.
>>28633202
You do make a good point, false flagger anon. The women at Niji and Holo aren't all that appealing right now. If they're all whores, then might as well go with even better whores.

>> No.28633900

>>28632808
One word, ACCELERATE! Nijibros don't care if there's a cliff on the horizon. We will go over the edge and either die in a fireball upon hitting the bottom or clear the abyss below. No fear, no hesitation.

>> No.28633929

>>28633687
Just look at Stars EN's sub numbers and views on their vids, that should give you a hint.

>> No.28633931

>>28627711
Fpbp

>> No.28633963

>>28627634
I said it once and i'll say it again, I love hololive but if you're a guy vtuber and want a future in a corp apply to nijisanji. clearly shows that they care about their talent and gives them the time of day for good models rather than covers hackjob

>> No.28634050

>>28633884
I know none of the cringe ass names you just mentioned.

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>>28633832
>Its so much easier to get started in Nijisanji so long as you have actual talent and charisma
I don't even know if that could be said with a straight face anymore, like maybe Shu could say something funny from time to time in a collab, but livers Uki is mostly fucking silent in them.

>> No.28634126

>>28633459
It is funny watching them lose a monopoly hold on the market and then continuously shoot themselves in the foot to try and fix it.

>> No.28634135
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I will now Stan.

>> No.28634228

>>28627711
This is kinda true and very smart of the homos, they know the Chinese fujo audience isn't going to watch them so it makes sense to go for SOUL and memes instead. I will enjoy Mr. Bionicle when he debuts.

>> No.28634321

>>28627985
>>28633114
Incredibly based Bionicle Man

>> No.28634484

>>28627985
ok fine I'll watch his debut

>> No.28634510

>>28634126
They had it all..... and they destroyed it....
Hopefully others will watch their fall and learn from it.

>> No.28634516

>>28633884
I think these are their themes:Scarle is a witch, Ren seems related to greek gods, Maria is a doll, Aster is connected to the stars.
This is based on their names, a few traits from their designs and their intro catphrases.
Overall the visual theme is very weak, barely noticeable in some cases.
If Maria was in Hololive she'd have doll joints and some doll props. Scarle would have a hat. Aster's cloth would have more stars than just his hair decoration.
Not idea what Kyo and Aia are supposed to be.

>> No.28634640

>>28634510
Phase Connect sister we're winning.

>> No.28634683

All of them have embarrassing voices.

>> No.28634684

>>28633196
Joining the Stars is better because even if you are a 3view you will get a 3D model, outfits and merch, original songs, etc. Anycolor is a numberfag company and unless you are Luxiem tier you are fucked. For all NijiEN males after the first five handful it's only downhill, you will be picking up the scraps.

>> No.28634795

>>28629249
>HoloEN don't force their voice
Bae...

>> No.28634801

>>28634516
>Ren seems related to greek gods
>This is based on their names, a few traits from their designs and their intro catchphrases.
>Not idea what Kyo and Aia are supposed to be.
The trailer says what they are...
Ren is an alien, Aia is an angel, Kyo is just "Cheerful guy"

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>>28632270
Hololive management is nightmare tier bullshit that makes people stop wanting to stream and vent on their RM accounts. Vast majority of good indies would rather go to Vshojo or Niji.

>> No.28634938

>>28627634
I have to admit, they have better models but i’m getting really tired of nijiEN coombait and resorting to sex jokes to be entertaining. I’ll stick with my wholesome HoloEN

>> No.28634971

>>28633832
It's a debuff for the men and that's actually a good thing, numbertrannies can go to hell. It produces a more serious fanbase and weeds out weak or lazy chuubas who want a free pass to instant success or aren't willing to stream regularly, be creative, or do their reps in some way. A little bit of challenge creates more interesting stakes.

>> No.28634985

>>28627634
oh no, they're hot

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>>28633196
Anon even weakest NijiEN males are making Council tier paychecks.

>> No.28635072

>>28634516
You don't get it. It's not about how good the designs are, or how elegant the kayfabe is. When it comes to shitposting on /vt/, it's all about the memes. These designs are serious and formidable, but they're not memetic. And because there are plenty of chubas with good models to choose from, the chubas that stand out are the ones who're memetic and unique.

The only chubas who benefit from having a good model are those not using them as a crutch, like Nazuna. A strong model utilized by a strong personality is always preferable, while the strongest model in the world still couldn't carry a subpar entertainer. That's the reality of vtubing. It's all about being iconic.

>> No.28635113

Anon that tried to find the voices of tempus here.
Does any of the nijis sound like Chimon or Sweeto? (And wolfy by extension)
I tried to pin Sweeto to Axel but the more time that passes the less it felt correct. Now that this niji wave was announced, it may make more sense for Sweeto (and wolfy) to join the mixed gender wave.
Chimon has Kanae as his oshi so it made sense for him to join Niji.

>> No.28635314

>>28634828
Then why didn't they all do a Sana and end their contracts at the same time?

>> No.28635356

>>28635059
Wasn't that yugo's birthday month? Which is why they jumped 67 spots over the previous? Not exactly council tier given it was just a normal month for kronii

>> No.28635551

>>28635314
Sana has a well paid job outside Hololive most of them don't.

>> No.28635713

>>28632270
>Literally the only reason any girl would try Niji first is if they were a Femcel who wanted to fuck one of the boys
This. Same reason applies to Holostars, no one would choose to join Holostars over Niji unless they want to fuck the Holomems so bad that they don't care about anything else

>> No.28635733

>>28634135
Stan iluna

>> No.28635905

>>28635551
Ina also has one. Mori has enough clout to get good musical contracts. Anyone knows who Gura is and would pay to work with her. I can find excuses for all other members and it still doesn't explain why they haven't all graduated yet when you claim things are that bad.

>> No.28636036

>>28635713
>unless they want to fuck the Holomems so bad
Didn't a literal female join Holostars just to fuck the stars? It seems the stars members are the most adverse to the hololive girls

>> No.28636208

>>28627711
SEETHING

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>>28635713

>> No.28636382

>>28632131
Gura's fanbase (the ojisans who put the actual money in, not the masses of deadsubs zoomers who don't matter) would rebel hard, that's basically the one way to just make the new HomoENs more hated (than they already are) when you'd need to do the opposite in fact.

Look how many chumbuds here are happy and pride themselves that Gura is one of the talents presumed to interact least with the males, and they want it to stay that way.
To then turn around and beg for Gura being the one that has to save and collab with the males to boost their attention, is quite ironic indeed

>> No.28636508

>>28632234
it's a black girl

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You could cut out the bottom line and the nijiEN logo and tell me that this is an ad for a gacha I've never heard of and will never hear of again and I'd believe you

>> No.28636715

>>28634938
This, I'm gonna give starsen a chance just because I know they will be more wholesome and less prone to drama or low brow shit. The designs aren't my concern here

>> No.28636718

>>28636208
My guy two of them have multi colored hair with hair decorations and earrings and they are manlets. You couldn't make a more femboy design even if you tried, it'd just end up being a trap.
The other dude just looks like generic yaoi man.
THEY
ARE
GAY
Stop coping, stop calling others "seething" and accept it.
If you are a woman or a homo just own it up and say YES like a giga chad and I will respect it but you mother fuckers keep trying to deny that they look gay as fuck.

>> No.28636773

>>28633240
>Hololive is the biggest vtuber agency in the market so maybe they expected that hype and audience to carry over to the male branch too.
If they didn't set their reasonable expectations at the lower bound that everybody CAN see (ie. how the HolostarsJP are doing - the popularity of the JP Hologirls didn't do shit for them) that's their own fault and they have no one to blame for themselves. Especially not the girls for not "boosting" them enough

>> No.28636861

>>28636382
The way to make me like a male is to have him publicly announce that he will NEVER collab with my oshi.
Then I will watch him and support him for being a gentleman that respects people's oshis.
No, I'm not telling you who my oshi is.

>> No.28637185

>>28636718
You're not wrong honestly, The three males have clearly been designed with the specific intention of appealing to a sliding scale of gays, women and bisexuals.

The traps softcore gay, Yaoi man is hardcore gay and the fuckboi is laboratory grown fujo bait.

Niji's really done well with these designs, they're all appealing to different niches so I doubt they'll be cannibalising each others viewers, Yaoi Aliens gonna get fucked by Vox though unless he's charismatic enough to distinguish himself.

>> No.28637284

>>28637185
>Yaoi Aliens gonna get fucked by Vox though unless he's charismatic enough to distinguish himself.
Based on his tweets he seems to be more of a himbo than anything. More competition for Luca than Vox.

>> No.28637356

>>28637185
Alien looks like budget Vox.
He's gonna need a real personality to stand out.

>> No.28637377

Unity bros i dont feel so good

>> No.28637470

>>28633114
Can't wait for their debut streams their tweets read like they will be very good bro vtubers

>> No.28637471

Horn nigger and blue nigger are literally chink fujos baiting material. There's no way they'd fail
>>28637356

>> No.28637491

>>28636036
From homostars no, kira roommate is a male. The closest thing to that minus the fucking males part is Yugo from noctyx but nobody knows what was in tazumi's mind hiring a girl with normal girl voice (not the deep feminine ones you see on shotas) for male branch and giving her that kind of model.

>> No.28637495

>>28636606
You could cut out the hololive logo from a picture of Tempus and tell me that the models were made by a genuine retard and I'd believe you.

>> No.28637580

6th wave. Too many fucking vtubers

>> No.28637759

>>28627985
Looks like Fauna.

>> No.28637794

>>28632234
Her last name aside from being a reference to a japanese island, is also a reference to a stupidly popular Bad Bunny song, dude is a massive weeb

there is a chance she is latina

puta madre la quiero embarazar

>> No.28637800

>>28636382
>Look how many chumbuds here are happy and pride themselves that Gura is one of the talents presumed to interact least with the males, and they want it to stay that way.
they're in denial honestly

>> No.28637977

>>28632234
>>28637794
https://twitter.com/ScarleYonaguni/status/1549573775674314752

>> No.28638034

>>28637491
I think he's talking about Rio

>> No.28638045

>>28627634
I legit hope Nijisanji wins. I want that company to keep being swarmed by trannies and fat SJWs continuously telling the streamers not to try so hard, and not to pander to their fans cause that's oppressive and they're just entitled incels if they want better content. I want holomales to fail and fade into obscurity and for the few SJW-ish holomems to shut the fuck up and get back in line. I'm rooting for you, nijinigs.

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>>28627711
>>28627833
>>28627846
>>28628931
>>28629249
>>28629333
>>28630835
>>28632361
>>28631383
>>28632996
>>28633624
HOLOCOPE FRAMED IN GOLD

>> No.28638203

>>28627634
hololive has been declining for over a year now, they need to stop the bleeding

>> No.28638409

>>28638045
Not gonna lie if Nijisanji taking the lead is what it takes for Hololive to get serious so be it.
These girls are are going off the reservation, talking shit to their fans, barely streaming and wanting to interact with men.
They need to be corrected.

>> No.28638620

>>28627634
I have no real interest in holostars or nijisanji and frankly there's not but a turd's difference in their designs. Anime-esque design mores are fucking weird anyway and bitching because this one is slightly weirder than the other is exactly the kind of navel gazing bullshit I'd expect from 4chins, reddit, twitter, and discord fags like yourselves.

>> No.28638986

>>28627634
Ngl, Magni's design have lots of personality on it, while Axel's probably best overall. Noir kinda got drowned out because he just do not speak much in general but low-key pretty good too. Regis is the generic MC

>> No.28639033

>>28638034
The "Rio is a woman" meme is just people who watched his debut and never touched him again. If you watch him for five minutes it's incredibly obvious he's a guy.

>> No.28639310

>>28627634
it's good that hololive gets beaten to the fucking ground like this, so they never make the mistake of giving a new gen 100$ budget

>> No.28639334

>>28638620
How did you end up here, in a board dedicated to pointlessly discussing people wearing avatars of anime character.

>> No.28639346

>>28639033
thank god i was worried i might be straight for a second

>> No.28639652

>>28627634
So basically, Niji is now Sony huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_egrJghyq_w&ab_channel=GameNews

>> No.28640293

>>28627952
When japs direct english VA's they for some reason direct them to be monotone as possible. They could be shit too I don't know.

>> No.28640481

>>28637185
seems like ren is going for a shu and luca combination

>> No.28640797

>>28627634
that's too fast!!
I feel sorry for the first generation

>> No.28641198

>>28640797
It's been like 5 months since their last wave

>> No.28641399

LMAO are there Holofags who really seethe at this situation?
I'm enjoying this shitshow
HolostarsEN SHOULD fail
Thank you AnyColor

>> No.28641521

>>28627634
stars EN was merely a feint to make niji shoot their shot.
watch how new gen hype dies out when holo debuts EN3 later this year

>> No.28646117

>>28641521
>Cover reveals EN3
>5 girls
>Anycolor reveals EN9 minutes later
>5 girls, 5 boys, all of them some variation of gay

>> No.28647145

>>28628414
Based

>> No.28647290

>>28629249
>literal case of holoJP having vocal cords problem for doing "voice"
>Finana being the only fake bitch we got
>HoloEN start with Kiara being a fake bitch, did so much she can't go back
>Bae also going the same path
meanwhile we only have Finana being a fake bitch but at least she gives her coomer fans the deep voice fanservice from time to time

>> No.28648355

>>28627634
>10 new EN chuubas in the next week
Nice, I just hope there's one or two that do more than just apex/block game 24/7.

>> No.28648425

>>28648355
Excuse me, at least Finan has variety.
She plays a different gacha every week.

>> No.28648456

>>28635356
the main thing is
>yugo is a woman
>yugo started lacking the basics of streaming
>yugo humor never clicked with his own wavemates
>yugo had breaks and dumb yabes early
this all combined made her presence minuscule in the "ecosystem" of the branch
Yet, yugo is above the average NijiEN girl because she is a MAN
So any decent actual male streamer joining will succeed by default

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>>28629703
Feels good to be above fags and niggers, fellow holojpchad

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>>28648425
I kinda enjoy watching her be a tard in car games, but as an /o/ fag I have to watch those streams about half an hour at a time, I can only take so much of it at once.

>> No.28648820

>>28637491
Yugo voice can pass as shota easily
the problem is not that, but the fact this mess of a girl, wants to be male irl but lacks ANY male characteristic in their personality
its just a girl that don't want to be a girl and think what she wants is to be a man
the classic type that will regret for the rest of her life is she makes the transition

>> No.28648919

>>28627634
Anon. The new Niji EN all look like generic gacha game characters with seasonal outfits

>> No.28649025

>>28627634
The nijimales also suck, nijien has loli and brown whore which make up for it. Holoen3 better not suck like holoen2.

>> No.28649487

>>28635905

my rrats is
>Ina is factually a speed-drawing monster, but still don't have the same artist clout/security Sana have
>Calli wanted to leave(even got a RM manager) but Cover secured her by getting the universal deal
>Gura can't be bothered to change, aside from some idol obligations she has no big plan or dream, just stream a game time to time, get the cash and enjoy her off-stream time
>Amelia & Kiara they have no actual presence outside holo, even Kiara RM don't have the power to keep her afloat

>> No.28650064

>>28649487
Yeah, yeah. I'm sure I'll hear the exact same shit a year from now. Do you people actually like NijiEN or you just hate HoloEN? Or you're just shitposting because they're looking "vulnerable" right now even when they're still doing better than 99.9% of vtuber out there?

>> No.28650787

>>28627634
>Niji
Don't care, not watching.

>> No.28651103

>>28627634
I'd rather have slightly "ugly" designs that have an identity than gacha characters for the billionth time
that includes the orange dog in homostars en btw

>> No.28651346

>>28627634
I don't get this meme, none of the Tempus guys looks as bad as Sana or IRyS live2d

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>>28627634
Didn't read it

>> No.28656703

the voices in this gen sound like shit

>> No.28656914

>>28656703
They've already been revealed?

>> No.28657067

>>28629198
>he doesn't know

>> No.28657440

>>28627634
I like Maria design. Sadly she's niji, so she will end up as another Luxiem cumdump

>> No.28657718

>>28629198
Given that females had a 10 - 0 head start, that's a pathetic cope

>> No.28657795

>>28634971
Virgin numberfags cannot compete with HUSTLECHADS, fuck your free subs and low effort success.

>> No.28658820

>>28629323
It's funny because a lot of fujos are dykes so this statement isn't even wrong

>> No.28659001

>>28630803
Underrated

>> No.28659181

>>28636718
>>28637185
This will surprise you (it surprised me too) but a good chunk of women don't actually like femboys and traps. Traps are usually made to appeal to men.

>> No.28659567

>>28636606
>the boys look like girls
>the girls look like trans

>> No.28660048

>>28632337
She's married to the other girl

>> No.28660117

>>28656914
Watch the trailer again.

>> No.28660232

>>28627634
>Another Highschool Girl #193,194,195
>Another Highschool Boy #72,73

SUPER CREATIVE!
>Is this where the Billion Market Cap goes to?

>> No.28660236

>>28634228
>you find out Mr. Bionicle is actually the 3rd Hanamori boy that /nijiEN/ has been wondering where he disappeared to after he failed the niji auditions
>magni proceeds to collab with indie shxto and shu of luxiem for valorant
>proceed to get called out for leeching on the more successful hanamori boys
kek

>> No.28660429

>>28635905
>>28649487
>>28650064
Why did you shift from Council to Myth? Sana is the only Council who isn't a literally who outside Hololive

>> No.28660607

>>28632361
I think the widehead from Tempura hit the wall first.

>> No.28660789

>>28633547
Besides arguably Astel even StarsJP had decent models at the start. ENStars is a huge debuff but then they get those shit models.

And even Astel 1.0 wasn't ugly.

>> No.28661053

>>28632996
>straight males
>gura's subhuman fanbase
Wow nijisanji really is missing out on a lot

>> No.28661189

>>28660429
Because the comment was about Hololive in general, not Council, and I pointed out how there are HoloEN members who would have no problems getting into decently paid gig if they left Hololive. And in the end they still haven't, even with this board acting like Holo management is worse than fucking upd8 and Unlimited combined.

>>28660789
Omega is retarded. News at 11.

>> No.28661294

>>28660236
We know who he is. Your retarded headcanon isn't happening.

>> No.28661373

>>28635059
>paycheck
>shows SC.
lol what a faggot.

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>>28627634
Cover has been fucking up for a while now
>fail to scout Selen for EN
>fail to scout desuwa for JP
>let Coco go
>let Rushia go
>their #1 and #2 earners
>over nothing
kson was right, their management is shit.

>> No.28662277

>>28661556
>management is shit.
I don't disagree, but it's still better management than every other vtuber corp based on the numbers and success

>> No.28662424

>>28627634
I can't guys. I tried to be nice about their designs but it's really super shitty. This is the first of me saying a design of hololive is shitty. I never hated any hologirls design and holostars design... BUT I JUST CAN'T! THE HOLOSTAREN IS SO FUCKING UGLY! WHY WHY WHYYYYYY

>> No.28662685

>>28627985
nijibros wished that had THE desmond among their ranks
its magging time faggots

>> No.28662824

>>28629070
do not insult my son the dezman ever again

>> No.28662861

>>28662277
Their initial success has very little to do with their management, all they had to do was not fuck up so bad that it kills the momentum and that is definitely not what has happened the EN branch.

>> No.28663002

it's funny how they waited for hololive to announce their stuff before shitting on it with their stuff

>> No.28663227

>>28635356
that's a lot of cope.

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