/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Vtubers switching companies is a shitty feel.
Suddenly they have a new set of best friends to hang out with and can't mention the old ones anymore... while it makes sense, it kinda sucks to be confronted with the fakeness of it all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940359
you should post an actual example and not a dumb fucking schizo narrative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940359
gay rat!
am i doing it right

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940380
She literally, right after her debut, premiered a video titled "secret" with a heart emoji where she sings a Haato song and sounds fucking identical with the exception of minor pitch shift.
At this point you're the schizo for denying it when she outright confirms it like that.

[Anonymous No.]

wait did haachama graduate

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940474
>"IT SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE HER"
>they have different voices
>"IT ONLY DOESN'T SOUND LIKE HER BECAUSE SHE'S CAUGHT ON TO US AND IS MESSING WITH US, SHE'S USING A VOICE CHANGER, AND DOING VOCAL EXCERCISES TO BECOME A DIFFERENT PERSON, AND DESPITE TRYING TO HIDE IT SHE'S ALSO TEASING US THAT IT'S HER BUT ALSO SHE'S TRYING TO HIDE THE FACT THAT IT'S HER AND ALSO SHE'S NOT"
you're going to keep doing this ad nauseum when the factor that should've proven this whole thing wrong was the fact that VTUBER COMPANIES HIRE PEOPLE 6 MONTHS BEFORE THEIR FUCKING DEBUTS AND HAATO WOULD'VE HAD TO HAVE QUIT WAY BACK WHEN THE ZHANG SHIT HAPPENED, MEANING YOUR DUMB NARRATIVES THAT "SHE QUIT TO AVOID COVER'S RESTRICTIONS" IS FUCKING WRONG

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940529
currently just a narative that a chuuba from a different company that debuted like a day ago is haachama that wanted to be free from cover.
and since it involves haatons it became a shizo narative since most of them are brain damaged

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940474
She sang the same song and a popular jpop song, no red heart or levvan polka or any other more known cover by haato/haachama. Still...
>the resemblance is very strong
>purple hearts everywhere
>eyepatch
>twin tails
>voice in promo video
>"strongest necromancer"

Miss something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940474
Kanata made a clip with haato fucking yesterday, what even makes you think she quit

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>>2940615
Might not even to be free from Cover, might just be a chance for her to restart as a more normal persona, considering the one she built up with Haato/Haachama has been off the rails for a while and is mostly known for eating disgusting cooking and other degenerate shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Sate my curiosity: those of who you subscribed to her expecting her to be Haachama, will you keep watching her if ends up not being her?

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>>2940653
You are missing the most blatant clue of all, today’s ASMR video that is currently her pinned tweet. She released it immediately after her Among Us stream this morning.
>Aria’s Debut
https://youtu.be/XwBwsYgxB1k [Open]
>Haa-Aria ASMR (released today)
https://youtu.be/lGqJNkbK6YU [Open]
>Aria/Haachama Duet
https://files.catbox.moe/57gy4g.mp4
She isn’t hiding it at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940708
no

[Anonymous No.]

Sate my curiosity: those of who you subscribed to her expecting her to be Haachama, will you keep watching her Aria ends up not being her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940653
literally all these things are just generic vtuber shit.
>My name is Japane Sename and I am a kawaii mage(in-training so go easy on me! >w<) my goals are to be the STRONGEST MAGE EVER!!!!! I love games, I want to do ASMR, and I want to make tons of friends!!!!
Even the design thing is jut reaching since even hololive fans were calling artists creatively bankrupt because we had a bunch of new costumes released at the exact same time that had the exact same theme(Chama being one of them)

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>>2940569
isle 4, faggot.

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>>2940731
Play the ASMR clip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940696
I mean, if that would be the case then she isn't doing very good job, calling her fanbase 'ojisans' and setting up her persona as some chuuni mesugaki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940529
Not yet officially but she's also already in another small company and pretty much stopped streaming on HL.
She's likely in some kind of agreement with Cover where they don't want her to leave yet, probably not until after the concert is my guess but who knows.

>>2940569
I implore you to take your meds, all of your points have already been addressed by others in previous threads so I'll be brief.
>they have different voices
No they don't, you're clearly an autist without any human interaction in your life, so you can't even recognize a voice through a minor pitch shift.
Not to mention that it's not just the voice, she also sounds identical otherwise, i.e. the same laugh, the way she raises the pitch at the end of some words etc.
This also disregards that she just so happens to have the same interests as Haachama, her character design is a borderline clone, she's the same editing style on things like the twitter video she uploaded and so on.
She isn't "trying to fool people", she's just playing a different character.
If she didn't want people to know who she is then she wouldn't have uploaded that video.
>VTUBER COMPANIES HIRE PEOPLE 6 MONTHS
No, Cover does.
We don't know this company's hiring practices and considering that they explicitly hired an already well established vtuber, she didn't require any training.
It also doesn't require 6 months to make a model, that could easily be done within a few weeks if you have the artists put in the hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940731

I checked her out because of the schizo narratives, I don't believe it's her at all but I like Aria's personality. She's another high energy crazy blonde which tend to be my favorites

[Anonymous No.]

The final solution to the haaton problem

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>>2940696
hmm could be, considering how young she was for most of that i can see her looking at it now and cringing at herself. eh lets wait and see what happens

[Anonymous No.]

Jesus fucking Christ, you fucks are still going with this narrative that literally no one else besides this board has even thought of. Not even the japanese see the similarities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940782
There's a difference between being a mesugaki character and being a mentally unstable character that eats spiders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940812
You will never be japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

You really believe Cover would just let one of their top talents to quietly leave?
Do you genuinely believe Chammers would just abandon 3 years of growth just to start over from scratch? Why even bother with vtubing then? She could have easily scored a job as a seiyuu instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940721
That Haa at the beginning...

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>>2940786
>take your meds
Jesus
>they have the same voice so it must be her!
Just like the time sio "graduated" and a new vtuber with her voice appeared and everyone thought it was sio, a while after sio came back for another stream. 2 people with the same voice isn't rare at all , you hear it all the time with vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940889
>disregards every other point
The meds were not taken it seems.

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>>2940786
>No, Cover does.
LITERALLY ALL OF THEM DO
>Hero graduates: December 2019
>Chigusa debuts in Nijisanji: August 2020
>Moruru graduates Nijisanji: June 2019
>Luna is announced to be a holo: December 2019
>Yogiri graduates hololive: Announced in November 2020
>Kuri debuts in some other vtuber company: March 2021
The reason it takes months isn't just to train them and give them a live2D, it's to draw up terms, prepare them for any plans the company has, as well as planning when they'll debut, organize a timeline of events so they can organize everything within the company, and a bunch of other shit. You people are just trying to find some other reason for Haato's absence and are latching onto some random member of Re:ACT because to YOU the timing is suspect, but if you actually knew what the fuck you were talking about, you wouldn't even believe this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940911
You think haachama is a rarity in japan or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940869
Whether this is her or not, Haachama has made it clear this is just a hobby for her and she doesn't treat it as a job. I don't know her financial situation, but if she's doing it just for fun then starting over is viable.

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>>2940814
Dunno, if you ask me eating spiders is more normal than pandering o middle aged man as JK character but okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940721
Doesn't sound like Haachama at all, you retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940928
Anon all of those things can be done in a much shorter timespan than 6 months, your examples are presuming that they immediately applied to another company.
>it's to draw up terms, prepare them for any plans the company has, as well as planning when they'll debut, organize a timeline of events so they can organize everything within the company
I know you've probably never had a job, but things like that don't take 6 months either.
The coexist shit happened quite a while at this point, more than enough time to sign up with another group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940805
Who doesn’t cringe at their behavior when they were in high school as soon they look back on it? Most people just move or reinvent themselves when they go to college. There was just too much baggage attached to Haachama she just didn’t want to be that anymore. It may have been the original intent of her Time Travel Arc. She created the Aria YouTube page the day (4/12) after her cosplay contest was abruptly cancelled (4/11), and her teaser trailer was released (4/16) 2 days before her Apology video was also abruptly cancelled (4/18). Clearly she was going to apologize for leaving, but Cover stopped her 30 minutes before she went live and tweeted “sayonara” from her Twitter account.
https://youtu.be/tbQLfCbrpjE (4/11 teaser)

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941068
>The coexist shit happened quite a while at this point

Two months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941082
>She created the Aria YouTube page the day (4/12) after her cosplay contest was abruptly cancelled (4/11)

Because it's that easy to jump ship. Vtubers can just do it on a whim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941082
Anon, you don't fucking create a VTuber in a day. Take your fucking meds.

[Anonymous No.]

I know a small group of Haachama fans. Very small, like 15 people.
About half of them were fans of her since her debut, or nearly so. The other half never cared about her at all before she went hard into the Haachama stuff, but then they loved her.
I asked the group what they thought about this situation. The Haato fans all think that they might sound a little similar at best, but that it's not her. The Haachama fans are all absolutely convinced that it's her and can't believe anyone would think otherwise.
I felt that that was a rather interesting split.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941082
She was also approaching her 3 year anniversary next month, so they may have already been negotiating her contract this whole time. If she didn’t re-sign there is nothing the can do to force her to.

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>>2941092
Yeah, 2 months is a lot of time.
Especially considering that this clearly is a low ambition company compared to Cover and she had a solo debut, if she was part of a whole new gen then I'd be more inclined to believe it's not her.
2 months is a lot of time when you don't spend it jerking off and playing video games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940854
No but both Haachama and Aria are and you fucks don't speak their language so take your meds and shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.]

Aria is Aria
Haachama is Haachama
now fuck off schizos

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941163
So only schizos believe it

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941171
two months is not enough time for the company to organize that shit, two months is rushing a vtuber out. especially since your assumption is that they literally hired her THE DAY THE COEXIST SHIT HAPPENED, which makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941171
Forgot to include the photo

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941176
>you don't speak a language so you can't assess how a voice sounds
I can tell you're actually an english-only-person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941171
>Yeah, 2 months is a lot of time.

Two months ago, we're still in February. So you're telling me that Haachama was already planning to jump ship before her coexist arc got cut short?

[Anonymous No.]

Its over stop coping

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941133
vtuber designs can be created a long time and not used
just see Cover's designs from Kakage
this design was probably done and they were waiting for a final confirmation before unveiling it
the dates line up too much along with how much Aria is making hints to chama

[Anonymous No.]

It's funny, once they try to put together a timeline, they instantly out themselves as retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941223
I don't know when they hired her, though even a single month would be enough.
If she's not retarded then she demanded terms that allow her great creative freedom this time, none of the examples of things that need to be done before debut take longer than like a day or two each besides the creation of a model.
There's nothing rushed about it considering that she doesn't require training and pretty much is just doing Haato again.

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>>2941250
When they cancelled her Horror Story Arc Conclusion on March 1st she had 3 month left of her contract. They can’t make her sign another contract for another year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941302
>the dates line up too much

Sure, if you ignore reality and how long it actually takes to do something like this. It lines up perfectly when you just handwave away reality.

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>>2941325
That has nothing to do with the point I was making.

My point was, you're trying to say that before her coexist arc was even cut short, she already had her foot out the door and was making plans to debut for another company. At that point, she doesn't even have motive yet. You huge fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941250
Yeah probably actually, i wouldn't be surprised if she was looking to jump ship since at least the Zhang situation.
We know she didn't like how Cover creatively stifled her, we've only seen that manifest in public a few times but who knows how much more BS she had to deal with behind the scenes.
Either way, kinda pointless to discuss the "how" and "why" when that's all internal stuff we just can't know.

[Anonymous No.]

>this thread
https://streamable.com/mxk7e5

[Anonymous No.]

People are this schizo because they havent gotten their Haachama fix in a while

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940359
Several people can sound the same anon like Banderas with Akio Ootsuka

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIcG42ZRCXc
>18 hours ago

Even if it was pre-recorded, there's exactly 0 chance that Cover doesn't know at this point because Haachama would have had to have ended her contract. Stop harassing some newbie with your conspiracy theories.

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>>2941449
>i wouldn't be surprised if she was looking to jump ship since at least the Zhang situation.

Then why would she do the coexist storyline in the first place and get so personally invested in it? If she's already disgruntled and planning to leave, why give Cover her best stuff when she can just coast through the rest of her contract and no one will even give her shit for it?

[Anonymous No.]

Here's some assumptions you'd have to make to assume this was true
>Haato immediately decided to leave when met with any kind of obstacle
>Haato immediately knew to go to Re:ACT of all fucking vtuber companies
>Re:ACT immediately said yes with no other questions or any second thought
>Re:ACT immediately found an artist and live2d modeler
>There was literally 0 resistance from anyone within Cover over the idea of Haato leaving hololive or nobody within hololive knew it was happening
>Re:ACT had a contract for her ready and she immediately agreed to their terms(no just because Haato WAS a big vtuber, doesn't mean they'll just let her do whatever she wants, they're still a business)
and there's probably other dumbass assumptions you'd have to make, either way, anyone who genuinely believes this is fucking retarded and should just stop watching vtubers all together since you can't even tell any of them apart anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

This wouldn't have happened if Haachama hadn't acted like a schizo.
Act like a retard and they'll feel that they are in good company and all that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941574
For all you know this could have been in the works awhile. And yes, snatching a big name from one of the biggest vtuber companies means she likely would get huge leeway in what she's allowed to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941544

Don't believe in this schizo rrat at all but if it were true, I imagine it's mostly because Haachama wanted to get more practice with video editing and work on a fun project instead of just sitting there and doing nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941678
except it wouldn't. Just because you WERE big doesn't mean you have power over the people who actually give you your paycheck. You idiots think Cover is the only company that stifles their talents despite their size, but that's just straight up delusional and proof you don't follow other vtubers.
>b-b-b-but Nijisanji let a loli get spanked!!!!

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>>2941678
Snatching a big name does nothing because she's not akai haato, she's a different person, and with this no one even thinks she's haato anywhere but here

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>>2941442
No I am saying that while she was suspended the publicity that Story Arc and abrupt suspension got her is why she was approached. She knew her contract was up on May 23rd and does not have to sign with Cover unless she wants to. They probably wanted her to stay quiet because of the Family Mart promotion so they came to an agreement. Why do you insist that she wanted to leave before that? She was suspended and found a better jobs during all of that free time.

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>>2941798
>No I am saying that while she was suspended the publicity that Story Arc and abrupt suspension got her is why she was approached.
>She was suspended

That's not what happened, you retarded schizo. You can't even remember past events properly at this point.

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>>2941574
>Haato immediately decided to leave when met with any kind of obstacle
You don't know what else is going on behind the scenes, all we know for sure is that she's extremely unhappy with Cover's restrictions and has been for a while.
>Haato immediately knew to go to Re:ACT of all fucking vtuber companies
You don't know when she learned about them, your post assumes that as long as she's with Cover she can't look around the rest of the industry at all.
>Re:ACT immediately said yes with no other questions or any second thought
>Re:ACT immediately found an artist and live2d modeler
Yes and yes, why not?
She'd be their most valuable asset by far and finding good artists in japan is not exactly a difficult task.
>There was literally 0 resistance from anyone within Cover over the idea of Haato leaving hololive or nobody within hololive knew it was happening
You don't know their internal politics and how long talks have been going on.
>>Re:ACT had a contract for her ready and she immediately agreed to their terms(no just because Haato WAS a big vtuber, doesn't mean they'll just let her do whatever she wants, they're still a business)
Confirmed neet. This shit doesn't take long and even if she wouldn't be given infinite freedom, she'd certainly have a lot of leverage over a small company like this.

Your post is what's littered in assumptions.
All i need to do is point out the obvious reality of Aria being Haachama, while you need to engage in schizoid mental gymnastics about their internal policies, that you don't actually know literally anything about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941648
They kicked her out of the EN Minecraft server and refused to let her collab with Gura way before the Schizo Arc started.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941833
>he actually thinks she took the break willingly

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941761

Yeah that's the thing about vtubers. All of their brand power is in the character rather than who they are in reality. Leaving behind that brand power, even with all of your same skill, is a massive gamble with no guarantee for success at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940359
I fucking hate you, Hololive Global.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941798
>better job
Better job than cover? You don't shit about vtuber companies if you think there's anything better

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941833
She was suspended on March 1st, her contract ends on May 23rd, what part don’t you understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940359
I fucking hate you, SEAniggers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940676
The people who think they're the same are retarded, but wasn't that basically just an outtake from recording for her concert?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941851
>This shit doesn't take long

Yeah, when companies audition new talent, they just draw out the hiring process for fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940359
Wouldn't Haato had to graduate from Hololive to switch companies? Sure we don't know their contracts but it's highly unlikely that they would allow "double citizenship" conflict of interest is pretty obvious... Still nice rrat

[Anonymous No.]

Her intro video and debut stream sound almost entirely like differently people. Haato probably voiced her intro to attract interest and speculation, but nothing else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941905
That's before the 1st gen concert.

[Anonymous No.]

It’s over, bros. Aloe all over again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941899
What good is a creative job when you aren’t allow to create anything? Would you want to watch someone play Apex bored as fuck every day against there will?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941905
>>2941872
>She was suspended

So you're starting your entire theory based on a lie, then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940676
To be fair, theres a possibility that the Kanata stuff was recorded weeks ago as a lot of the concert was prerecorded due to covid

[Anonymous No.]

When I see the WACTOR auditions, I notice that they can have the model and the live2D already done before they have the person who will use it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941955
>2 years vs 2 streams
Yeah, it's the same thing all over again

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941851
>She'd be their most valuable asset by far
except she wouldn't be, the character Akai Haato is what people know, not Pickle. No matter how big you once were, these companies are 100% aware of that, which is why they wouldn't just let her do whatever even if she WAS Haato at one point. The same is true for any vtuber, hell if Kizuna Ai decided one day to reincarnate into another vtuber company and everyone fucking knew it was her, she'd still be treated like the newbie that gets the same types of restrictions everyone else got.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940721
Wow...
That Haa...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942001

The thing is these schizos are basing a lot of this on Haato and Aria having design similarities, so the model already being there before the switch goes against their rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941944
>Wouldn't Haato had to graduate from Hololive to switch companies?
How do you know her contract hasn't expired / been terminated? It's customary to do the graduation dance, but they can retire her quietly if they want to.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIcG42ZRCXc

Cope, schizos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942049
They're still publishing content with the Haato character.

Even if it's old, unused footage and they're only just now publishging it, they wouldn't do that if she were retired/graduated.

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>>2941939
You're talking about recruiting whole gens of talents, most of them with no prior vtubing experience.
Haato already knows everything there is to know about vtubing and since her new character had a solo debut instead of being part of a generation, she was able to start as soon as possible.
The largest time investment here would have been the commission of the new model and her crafting the details of her new character's personality, which wouldn't take very long for someone experienced (especially since the character is literally just a vanilla Haato so far anyway).

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942049
if her contract was terminated they wouldn't be uploading videos that have her in it with her voice in it.

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>>2941989
Believe what you want I don’t care, she won’t be coming back. Those outtakes were from her recording for Kanata’s birthday, she is probably prerecorded for the upcoming concert too. There are Akai Haato acrylic stands available at Family Mart but Haachama does not stream anymore for Cover.. Haachama the strongest idol did not have a mental breakdown over nothing, and she did not break her silence just to tweet about Family Mart during her suspension either.

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>>2940696
>More normal
This new girl's whole shtick is that she's mesugaki middle schooler that calls her fans oji-sans

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941966
Cover is as free as it gets, you think she can get away with the shit she does in any company?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940696
She can just rebrand her Holo character... again

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942101
>Haato already knows everything there is to know about vtubing
So did Luna, so did Hero, so did Yogiri, so did Polka, so did Ollie, so did Reine, so did pretty much any holo since most of them were streamers already, yet in every case, they still had to wait months from when they got hired to when they debuted(you can tell how long it is because the ones that stop activity before joining all stop at the exact same time as others in their gen).

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940474
Are you willing to eat a bag of dicks if you're wrong? If not, then you aren't actually confident. If you are, then you are a schizo and should eat a bag of dicks after haachama streams this week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942122

What will you do if you're wrong and Haato is streaming a week from now

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942045
No the most convincing part is the song Duet, Haa-ASMR, and Debut Voice. The Chuuni design with eyepatch, twintails, calling her self the strongest while also using a Purple Heart is overkill.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow, this thread is ridiculous. Please take a break from the internet and go outside.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942026
>hell if Kizuna Ai decided one day to reincarnate into another vtuber company and everyone fucking knew it was her, she'd still be treated like the newbie that gets the same types of restrictions everyone else got.
Source: my ass.
Thanks for reaffirming my point about deniers basing their wrongness entirely on assumptions about internal company politics that they have no actual knowledge of.
You're also retarded in another way, she wouldn't just be valuable in terms of being recognizable, but also in terms of talent.
Re:ACT is a tiny company, to have someone who has proven that they can entertain hundreds of thousands of people would be very valuable on its own.
You know, like how you can negotiate a better wage or more favorable contract at any company when you demonstrably have valuable skills that are in high demand.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm already screenshotting all the posts believing it's haato, I will shit on haatons forever after she starts streaming again

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940934
Walking out of 1 million audience not so much though not to mention for all we know she doesn't have other friends in Japan other than holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942179
I don't think Haachama streaming would disprove this at all though, there's a reason she's not officially graduated yet.
If she's still with Cover by the end of the year then sure, I'll eat a bag of dicks.

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>>2941966
holy fuck you retards don't let this go

they couldn't let her do her whole suicide/schizo thing because it's LITERALLY against the YouTube terms. Nothing about 'hur dur cover wont let them be themselves'

Like, my man, do you not remember Haato literally looking at porn of herself not 3 months ago? Then suddenly those new YouTube rules came into effect, blaming cover is straight up retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942150
Not anymore, Cover is sterile and incredibly risk averse, ask Coco about Asacoco or collabs for even more proof. They literally just handed down new rules so what was true is not necessarily true anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

Taking bets on where Natori will reincarnate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942277
>I don't think Haachama streaming would disprove this at all though

Oh my god, you retarded schizo.

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>>2942230
>she wouldn't just be valuable in terms of being recognizable
except only this place believes it's her, so you're fucking wrong there, actual Japanese people moved on because they're not fucking retarded. So your whole "recognizable" argument falls apart. Before you try to argue against this, JOPs are the same autists that can tell you a vtuber's past life before they even fucking debut, and confirm it the second they hear their voice. If those people don't even think it's Haato, what makes you think she's "recognizable"

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, I tell you a secret.
If not expressly forbidden in the contract or an agreement between parts are made.
An artist can work for different companies at the same time...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942307
I'm right and you're seething, you better slurp on my nuts once the graduation happens.

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>>2942292
Coco collabs with people literally all the time, the fuck are you talking about?

If you're referring to EN, that's because the managers dont want the girls to get a bunch of negative publicity when being so new - Kiara even said like a week ago that the girls themselves have nothing against streaming with Coco

[Anonymous No.]

All these posts and no one mentioned that shes attending college?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942323
>If not expressly forbidden in the contract

Yeah, because Cover is too retarded to put that in any of their contracts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942321
Did you not read the rest of the post you actual retard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942323
This. We have no idea if her contract even includes a non-compete clause.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942277
>If she's still with Cover by the end of the year then sure, I'll eat a bag of dicks.

It wouldnt even take that to kill this dumb rrat where it stands, all it requires is Haato and Aria doing streams at the same time or freakishly close together

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942290
The rules were only regarding monetization and ads. The videos are even back, so they must not have been too offensive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942292
Do you watch meme review? Coco gets away with so much stupid shit in those streams that it's hilarious to think she's restricted, the only branch that's restricted is EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942338
>I'm right

You only think you're right because you will accept no proof that you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942290
Then the new rules came out, YouTube’s and Cover’s why can’t you comprehend that things change?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942323
no vtuber company would agree to that because why the fuck would they allow entertainment to earn money for their competition while limiting the amount of money they'd be making off of them. This isn't like working for different anime projects.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942414
You're forgetting that Haato was a Gen 1 solo debut. Her contract is likely much different than whatever they've standardized on now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942323
Ina has a day job. Cover isn’t her whole life, it’s not even her top priority. It goes Family, Job, then Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942448
They renew their contract every year you know.
Her contract from when she debut isn't the same contract she has now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942414
We're talking about Cover, a company that couldn't be bothered to get copyright clearance for the games the talents wanted to play

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942448
>Her contract is likely much different than whatever they've standardized on now.

The contracts are updated year to year. There's no way Cover is so retarded that they didn't put in a non-compete clause. If they didn't put that kind of clause in their contracts then all of their top talent would be getting poached all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942358
your entire fucking post is "she was famous as Haato, so Re:ACT would kneel to her because she's proven she can be successful!" because the same can literally be applied to literally any vtuber since, get this, THE CONDITIONS TO GET HIRED LITERALLY REQUIRED IT. There are vtubers currently who had previous accounts that got millions upon millions of views, but the companies that hired them still limit what they can do, and still control them under the same conditions that someone who wasn't as successful in the past was. Your whole argument hinges on the idea that Re:ACT would accept her terms because "she was Haato, she's too valuable to pass up!" when her case isn't even that special.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940359
>and can't mention the old ones anymore...
That’s not true, they just can’t connect them to their previous work

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942478
No, but there's no obligation to sign a restrictive new contract either, so often times companies don't make sweeping changes to them and just let the older talent be grandfathered in with different rules. That happens with lots of streamers, e.g. old Twitch streamers are handled much differently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942483
If Cover was too stupid to put non-compete clauses in their contracts, they would've lost all their talent by now.

This wouldn't be an issue we're only just now seeing in this unique situation with Haachama. It's been 2 years, someone else would've already double dipped by now if that were allowed by contract.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942372
I'd accept that too yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942478
Cover isn't really in a position to force the holos to accept new terms in their contract, if even just 1 of them decided to quit it would be bad optics for cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942253
We know she's irl friends with Hoshikawa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942573
Hard to say, we don't know much about that. The only exemples are Aloe, homos and the CN branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942610
And getting your talent stolen while looking like a gang of retards is good optics?

A non-compete clause is the very basics of what would be in these contracts. If Cover overlooked that then there's no way they would've been able to hold on to their talent long enough to grow the company to where it is now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942644
the only double dipping any of them did was producing content independently, none of them ever signed contracts with other companies. Even Doris the gold digging groomer had to quit her other vtuber job before joining HoloCN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940812
I saw someone link Aria on sukikira

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942644
>Hard to say, we don't know much about that.

Okay, let's take a look at what's going on with Cover. Are any of their talent confirmed or at least suspected of double dipping with another vtuber company? No? Maybe there's something in the contracts about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942536
You assume she wants to keep making “insane content” what if she doesn’t and that the problem? She can’t just turn back time to before she ate a spider, sniffed her feet, or vomited up noodles, she tried and it didn’t work. Maybe she just wants to have the same clean slate the Nene is enjoying currently, free from her past and able to write a new story with less Red Bull. Is it so hard to believe she doesn’t want to be known has gross kid that will eat anything on a dare? That kid never wanted to do that either, they only did it because you expected them to and they liked the attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942766
what does this have to do with anything the post was saying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941574
Yea this is some Zhang level narrative bullshit, might aswell start collecting money to buy Haachama out of evil Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

You want my rrat? haachama and aria and actual irl sisters and will collab soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942676
Better than having all your early talent fucking off because they're unwilling to sign a different contract.
Especially considering how reliant cover is on the holos' goodwill to excuse some of the bullshit caused by incompetent managment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942387
they were taken down initially because they were worried YouTube would demonetise them. And if you go back and watch those videos you'll find they're all ad-free now.

>>2942406
because Covers rules are directly linked to YouTubes, so constantly blaming Cover for that is braindead

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942292
>Asacoco
Coco dropped it herself because the morning news program schedule was fucking killing her, Cover had nothing to do with it, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942842
>Better than having all your early talent fucking off because they're unwilling to sign a different contract.

How? Either way, you've lost all your talent and have nothing to build with while making a fool of yourself. At least if you revise the contracts to have a non-compete clause, you'd know you've got future talent locked in.

Keep in mind that you have to assume Cover is so retarded that their original contracts didn't contain non-compete clauses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942866
Cover's rules are severely more restrictive than youtube's though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942811
They think Re:Act would have to kneel for a perfectly reasonable contract just because she is Haachama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942292
>ask Coco about Asacoco
yeah ask Coco why she'd rather spend an extra couple hours in her $9000 bed instead of waking up at 4 AM every day to make a joke news program, I'm sure she'll blame evil corporate overlords!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942836
>They collab
>It's just Haato with two iPhones

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942610
>Cover isn't really in a position to force the holos to accept new terms in their contract
Yeah they can, if the talent doesn't want to renew it then they don't and graduate, that's the point of the contract

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942836
Very cool but mine is It's another part of her schizo arc

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942909
Tell be rules bro, I want to hear them. Don't mention EN rules since they clearly are for EN only, just like ID and JP have their own rules

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942950
When the contract is up you can leave, it’s not like she is taking anything with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942955
DEEPEST LORE

[Anonymous No.]

>>2941989
They wouldnt have let her post anything related to Haato without a disclaimer if she was semi-officially retired and working for another company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943059
The contract isn't up though, you do know what happens if you breach contract before it's up right? You get shitcanned like kaoru

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943041
Obviously i don't know all of their exact rules, but the Coexist content would've been perfectly permissible by youtube standards while Cover got pissy over it.
They're also not allowed to reference anything politically charged. While i think that's a good rule for them to have, it's an example of one that youtube doesn't have.
Collab restrictions outside the company would be another example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942940
Not a single one of these people had ever heard of Re:Act until a couple of days ago so it's no surprise they think they're literally nobody

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943137
What if they changed the VA?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942049
lol no they would had to retire the character either way or face Game-bu levels of backlash both from JP and overseas audience not to mention their own talent/staff no matter how the contract is constructed it would be a suicide and everybody knows that other than some newfags and schizos take your meds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943174
>Collab restrictions outside the company would be another example.
the only case of that is VShojo and it's literally only because Melody is in it and she's a literal camwhore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943137
Cover could easily recast her, and there is nothing she could do to stop them. They own the name and model, but I doubt she would care. Coincidentally they don’t even need to because they already have a spare that just had her 3D debut right before Haachama’s Apology video was set to go live. They are postitioning Nenechi to be the new Haato, now with even less yab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943174
>but the Coexist content would've been perfectly permissible by youtube standards while Cover got pissy over it.
I didn't know youtube was ok with decapitation
Collab restrictions outside the company would be another example
This is just EN you know, JPs collab with other companies all the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942907
Cover was a shitty little startup, if you can't offer a decent wage and job security it's pretty hard to make people accept contract that fuck them over more than anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943240
>Cover could easily recast her
thanks for confirming you literally know nothing about vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943240
>Cover could easily recast her
OK newfag, this worked really well for the other companies that tried this shit before

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943232
You're just thinking about vtubers, can Korone collab with with Vaush if she wants to?
Again, not saying it's bad, but certainly an example of Cover restricting them in ways beyond youtube's rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942950
I meant more that it's bad publicity and might conhince other holos to not renew their contracts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943270
>it's pretty hard to make people accept contract that fuck them over more than anything else.

Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943169
They could have come to mutually amicable arrangement, and that is why she prerecording the dance videos for the birthday and upcoming concert because she is part of the 1st Gen. Plus any other promotions she is still attached to, like Family Mart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943249
There's plenty of creepypasta content on youtube and much of it is even monetized, at the absolute worst a few of the coexist videos might not have full monetization but they wouldn't be deleted by youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943179
They apparently use Vive for their motion tracking which is probably a nice upgrade from an iPhone X.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943240
recasting any holo would be madness her fans would skin yagoo alive

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943283
I said they could, but don’t even need to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943335
that's literally the point I made. These videos aren't monetised. But for the most part these aren't streams, so she's not getting super chat revenue either. Why would cover want her uploading non-monetised videos a few times a week instead of streaming, probably making a fucking loss all the while?

I make videos, and trust me when I say these new youtube rules have bombed my ad revenue by a lot just because of all of the new boxes you have to tick

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943314
>they could
Nice assumption, here's mine, you never worked for a company

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943419
Ib

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943387
>they could
No they can't, saying that they can is like saying they can demolish their offices and abolish the brand if they wanted to

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942580
But what if one of those streams was pre-recorded or done by her sister? Don't give up so easily schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943283
>>2943286
>>2943371
The last time a company did that it was a tremendous success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943398
>probably making a fucking loss all the while?
How would she make a loss?
They don't pay her a wage, she has basically zero operating costs and still streamed more than often enough to make good money for them anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943465
Kizuna AI still exists, but I didn’t say they would or even need to. I said the have Nene which is basically Haato with a blank character sheet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942349
>managers

More like P-san

[Anonymous No.]

I feel so bad for this new vtuber. She's trying to debut and schizo /vt/ fans are harassing her because they think she's their resurrected schizo waifu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943188
>>2943240
Hololive has had 11 graduations so far and they've never done this.
If they had the poor judgement and lack of empathy to recycle a model they would've done so for Aloe when she graduated, barely anyone wouldve noticed.
They have no need for recasting anyone, they're not a small indie company that sunk 30% of their initial investment into a high quality model, Cover has artists lined up to do any concept art or model. If Haato graduates because her family doesnt want her vtubing or because the japanese dont like her haachama arc or because cover or because antis then she graduates and thats that. It happened with Aloe, happened with Kaoru, its gonna happen to another JP eventually.

Besides almost every single time a company has done this it has been a colossal failure on every level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943486
>gamebu
Nigger that's the exact example everyone is thinking of, they're fucking dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943519
Yeah and the new VAs almost destroyed the brand completely and is the only reason kizuna AI is so small compared to back then, like most people still think that the original VA is gone

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943534
You skip over the part where I said they don’t even need to replace her, just because you can do something doesn't mean you will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943490
are... are you retarded?
Holos get a salary, my man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943519
Yeah, and she's also been irrelevant for years, funny how that happens

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943486
Correct me if I'm wrong but a quick google search shows that they do Anime/Concert content, which is a whole different bag of worms than the parasocial relationships viewers have with livestreamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943631
I didn’t say they should, would, or even want to. I specifically said they could but don’t need to, because they have Nene. Who coincidentally was having her 3d debut minutes before Haachama’s Apology video was scheduled for. I was watching her will 3D concert while I waited for Haachama’s stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943526
If she's not Haato then she's an extremely blatant rip-off and intentionally trying to bait Haato's audience, so you shouldn't feel bad either way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943618
No they do don't, they get a share of SC, membership and merch earnings and that's it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943757
>trying to bait Haato's audience
only people who don't watch vtubers actually think this. the connections the people who think it's her use to say "she's totally aware and teasing us!" are just standard vtuber shit, the people who think this just aren't familiar with vtubers to get that and think it must be Haato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943810
But that's not true at all, you're literally just saying that based on nothing to appear knowledgeable and "fit in".

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943805
How could you even be this new? A bunch of holos already said they get a salary, even if the salary is incredibly shitty

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943757
she just have a kind of similar voice, but you 3 schizos are those who think that

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943805
You have no idea what you're talking about so shut the fuck up already please

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943868
the connections people are using to say it's her aren't unique to Haato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943600
>you can drink lava but only once
50% of your post is pedantic at best and a failed attempted narrative at worst. Yes, they *can* recast Haato just like they can fire everyone that has played minecraft in the last year. But they cant because it would be the end of the company. This is the usual and proper use of the word "can", its not something you're physically or legally able to do. You cant fire people for eating a tuna sandwich.
>nene is haachama
nene is not haachama, they're completely different characters that have different fanbases. Cover knows not to do this, they're not the bumbling idiots the copypasta pretends they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943805
judging by the replies to this, I assume you'll shut your cunt mouth now, newfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943561
They recently had a concert!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943914
Like beginning to say haachamachama before cutting yourself off?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943188
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943805
They get salary, equipment, help with credit, access to Cover's massive rolodex and permanent access to basically any equipment in the holo office and any other space Cover has, by default, without streaming (as long as they follow their contract). When they stream, they also get 50-60% of all SC and memberships (Youtube takes 30%, Cover takes between 10-20%), and 100% of the merch.
There's conflicting reports on whether or not Cover pays for songs. If they pay for all of it, only a part, if they only pay for the studio time but not backing/mixing/whatever,... we just dont know. We do know the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943561
Gamebu was a bust but Cocoa's exceptional because she's the only vtuber where a recast ended up more popular than the original. I couldn't tell you why though.
I think they made it canon that the new one is a separate character that succeeded the original around her launch though so maybe that plays into it.

[Anonymous No.]

Here's the thing even if it is her aren't you guys being assholes for drawing attention to it. Like if your rrats are to be believed then it means that Cover is willing to essentially keep her on a dead contract and let her go to another Vtubing company.

Like this is on par with the people who unironically piss and moan about Aloe coming back when she is happy with what she is doing right now. Or even worse HERfags and all the trouble they caused for a person who was actively trying to escape them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942093
Cover owns the character, if they have pre-recorded footage they could easily make terms that allow them to use it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2944252
You know what, you're right anon. The rrats are fun but I didn't consider whether it was something she wanted attention drawn to. I'll avoid the subject in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2944255
Could, but wouldn’t. It’s not her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940760
Fuck off with your retarded forced meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940786
Bro it’s literally not her and no amount of schizo narratives will change that.

[Anonymous No.]

>it's HER
>it's not HER
deja vu

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943745
Then what even is your point then if you know damn well they're never going to do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2944252
>HERfags and all the trouble they caused for a person who was actively trying to escape them.
lol you retard, she's always making callbacks to her previous identity and yet you still run with this narrative. you're right about the schizo doxxfags causing her trouble but the HERfags with common sense are harmless and most support her just as much as gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2944700
It die down once Haachama starts streaming again [spoilre]or if they announce her graduation.[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.]

>>2944816
>once Haachama starts streaming again
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>2944816
>once Haachama starts streaming again
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>2944252
Why is it being an asshole? Haachama is a numberfag, which is great because it shows her genius. She should get her fans back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2944146
With Cocoa they had the decency to make the new one a different YT account and kept the old one around and weren't trying to hide the change.

I'm actually kinda curious where the replacement Kaede is now. She had her own personal twitter where she included voicing Kaede in the bio and a pinned tweet for an account where she just uploaded covers, but she hasn't used it since graduating as kaede and retired her side channel. She was too good to be stuck in the shadow of unlimited's bullshit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AWVB9pVlGI

[Anonymous No.]

>>2944756
Making a callback to your previous life and having people show up in your chat asking if she is HER and making videos on youtube about it are very different things.

>>2945133
If she was as big a numberfag as you claim she would have graduated so everyone would make a big ass deal about finding her again. She wouldn't go on a hiatus and join some no name company.

>>2944255
Cover could literally roll out the CN girls, Aloe and Hitomi Chris models and do whatever they wanted to with them if they felt like it. They don't because fans would get pissed.

[Anonymous No.]

I blame Jenma for kicking off en server

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940474
she sounds like every single japanese woman voicing a squeaky anime girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>2945378
Based, there was literally nothing gained by doing that.

[Anonymous No.]

If Aria isn’t actually her, then I wish Aria would just make a public statement so all the EOPs can shut up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2945345
>Nijisanji, the company backed by Sony is no name

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943757
Sounds like chinese mental loops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2945438
Anon... Aria is with Re:Act... unless there is another Chuuba that is with Nijisanji you are referring to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2945428
Why would she? /vt/ is literally the only place talking about this and that's an insignificant amount of people. Japanese clearly don't think they're the same because their autism puts 4chan to shame.

[Anonymous No.]

PANIK

[Anonymous No.]

>>2945428
EOPs like you? Because you say the same shit in every fucking thread in English. No one believes you can speak Japanese. You’re probably some fat ass white dude in a fedora, with a katana collection, and an Asian fetish. Go annoy the Japanese, we all hate you Ken-Sama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2945580
Oops. No, just dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

Read her twitter. It’s happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2945864
4/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>2945767
>/vt/ is literally the only place talking about this
Idk wtf komica is (chinese?), but they have a thread.
https://sora.komica.org/00/pixmicat.php?res=22340765

[Anonymous No.]

>>2946267
taiwan

[Anonymous No.]

>>2944700
/vt/ likes to time loop

[Anonymous No.]

>>2945767
I like how they are all positive there like talking about her past streams they find it fun and other stuff while the haatons here doomposting her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2946544
Are we the bugmen?

[Anonymous No.]

i knew you guys were redditors

https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/mxokd7/haachama_and_tsukushi_aria_duet_their_voices_go/

[Anonymous No.]

>>2946834
I don’t understand the point of this behavior
Is it like a “oh I get the reference!” thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>2946862
signaling

[Anonymous No.]

was this thread seriously created from a rrat?
does also mean OP is a haaton off his schizo meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>2946834
/vt/ breaks containment so often I don't even think we had it in the first place. It's just reddit without usernames and downvotes

[Anonymous No.]

>>2946862
They must be literal children.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2946834
>haachama antis are so deranged they're making reddit accounts to falseflag on a site where nobody will even know what they're talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>2946834
People keep blaming /pol/ for the influx of muh newfigs but they usually are contained with their own fucking board anyway. /vt/ is completely worse because of its otaku leanings, which in turn spreads on other boards like /a/ and /jp/. Hell, there's more /co/mblr and reddit tourists here than f/a/gs and that's not a good sign at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>2947779
it's hardly newfag behavior, it's just a group of butthurt /jp/fags that never got over hololive deciding to cater to EN. Nothing but falseflagging, samefagging and threadspamming

[Anonymous No.]

>>2947717
here it comes

[Anonymous No.]

Even though I'm certain it's her, and I think that the people claiming they sound totally different need to trade in their 3rd world Burger King speakers for a decent pair of headphones, all this schizo posting from others trying to convince others is sad, man.
Why are you trying so hard to prove it to people who don't give a shit?
Are you just trying to convince yourself at this point?

[Anonymous No.]

Se queda

[Anonymous No.]

>>2948269
Honestly, I was legit worried when she left because of that one tweet. I know that the people that don’t want believe it’s her are just like me when I didn’t want to believe she was gone. When I heard the “Haa” this morning after watching the collab I finally knew she happy. The people that still care about her are mad because they feel they are being manipulated and lied to, like I felt reading the “sayonara” tweet. I want to protect the Chama and bring her back to the people that never stopped caring about her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2948269
>Why are you trying so hard to prove it to people who don't give a shit?
Because you're affecting a real person, the moment haachama streams 90% of the viewership of that girl will be gone

[Anonymous No.]

>>2948616
meds. now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942077
That fucking hip sway

[Anonymous No.]

>>2948616
Nothing new for anons tho. Pump and dump.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942643
Probably getting dicked by the same guy who dicks Hoshikawa too

[Anonymous No.]

It isnt HER but its fine to see dumbfags actually falling for the bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943179
I listen to Ribon ASMR

[Anonymous No.]

>>2948826
isle 4 m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>2948616
Like 20 EoPs at most from /vt/ that only clicked on her content to hear if it sounded similar before deciding that it wasn't her are hardly 90% of the audience anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2948269
>>2948539
meds. it literally is a different person

[Anonymous No.]

>>2940731
After watching the ASMR clip, yea i think ill keep watching her. Shes a talented VA and she seems interesting so... i guess good job /vt/ for introducing her to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>2943534
I want to see Suisei replaced.

[Anonymous No.]

Kind of tired of these rrats being thrown around after lurking for so long, so I'm gonna say it.

I won't believe that Haachama and Aria are the same person UNTIL Aria speaks English with an accent similar to Haachama.

[Anonymous No.]

OHAYO

[Anonymous No.]

>https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1386502919013367808
ITS HER I FUCKING KNEW IT HOLY SHIT!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

Naked Dogeza from all of you who kept pushing this rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2949972
RRAT
AWAY

[Anonymous No.]

>>2949972
>she lurk /vt/ and read all this schizo shit

[Anonymous No.]

AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NICE RRAT FAGGOTS

[Anonymous No.]

DRAMAFAGS BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

Most of you fags weren't even here for the Early Watame and Ui-mama rrats and it shows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2950195
Those were never rrats though, the Watame and UI-mama stuff was a joke from the beginning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2949972
Huh, "ohayo." Remind anyone of a certain yandere imouto roleplay video uploaded recently?
This is almost too blatant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2949972
>giving one last hello before she says goodbye forever
IT'S FUCKING HER I KNEW IT I KNOW IT AAAAAAAAHHHH ARIA FUCKING LOVE, BABY

[Anonymous No.]

Formal graduation imminent.

Torii = transition from mundane to sacred
New Years Yukata = rebirth
Kitsune mask = trickster

[Anonymous No.]

>>2950533
I think I know why she isn’t a mod on Reddit, she walks with us.

[Anonymous No.]

HAACHAMA IS BACK. GET FUCKED DOOMFAGS THE NECROMANCER IS NOT HAACHAMA
GET FUCKED IN THE ANUS

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>>2950659
Haa-ohayo!

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>>2950533
Schizochama... it's time to take your meds. It wasn't her.

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>>2950659
You are going to be so sad that you said that.

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>>2951250
It's time to stop, bro. The rrat is dead.

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>>2951299
So you will believe one tweet with no context? ogey let see how that works out for you.

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>>2951382
More than some fucking schizo posts with no support? Yes.

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>>2951382
You niggers are so desperate for drama it's funny

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>>2951693
You believe a one word tweet instead of your own ears.
>Aria’s Debut
https://youtu.be/XwBwsYgxB1k
>Haa-Aria ASMR (released today)
https://youtu.be/lGqJNkbK6YU
>Aria/Haachama Duet
https://files.catbox.moe/57gy4g.mp4

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>>2951732
You do realize we see you making the exact same posts in multiple threads right? This amount of desperation is just sad.

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vtuber switching is drama worthy and antis would be brigading cover by now. You could also see drama videos up and shit like this https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm36182822.. The fact that theres no rrat in the JOP community means this shit is just eop schizo rrat.

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>>2951732
Yes. It doesn't sound like her

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>>2951803
This. The Nips would have figured this out way before anyone here did.

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>>2951803
Someone posted that link the day it was released in a graduation thread, how did they even know it existed?

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>>2951847
We didn’t figure it out, it was just dropped here by seemingly no one.

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>>2951873
It's probably some faggots coordinating on a discord like most forced narratives.

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>nips bully the shit out of someone that sounds a bit like sio
>literally no fuss about this new girl
Nips are infinitely more autistic about this than you schizos, it's not her

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>>2951889
Let’s assume you are right, why would Aria releases a video that starts with Haa-ohayo and then why would Haachama tweet ohayo 12 hours later? The first and only thing she was tweeted this month.

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Good bye Haachama. It’s been a good run.

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>>2951944
>why would Aria releases a video that starts with Haa-ohayo and then why would Haachama tweet ohayo 12 hours later?

TWO(2) people said ohayo?!

It can only be a conspiracy!

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>>2951944
its literally the first tweet of every vtuber everyday

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>>2951944
Not the first tweet just the only tweet since she said sayonara.

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>>2951960
Haachama only saying Ohayo after saying Sayonara is the bigger question.

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>>2951981
Do you follow her on Twitter? I do and she doesn’t say that every day.

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>>2952001
Haachama saying ohayo might be related to some lore she's setting up or something.

Using it to connect her to any other vtuber who also said ohayo is where the conspiracy theory falls apart.

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>>2951944
>why would Haachama tweet ohayo
Because it's morning? Jesas take your fucking meds.

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>>2951944
>person says good morning in the morning
Sugeeeee

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Here do your Sayonara reps
https://cotoacademy.com/japanese-goodbye-sayonara/

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>>2951732
Alright, cool. Where's the part where she speaks English?

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>>2952034
Your stupid meds comment is making antiChama’s hatred for the EOPs limited understanding of words seem justified.

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>>2952083
Wish I knew, I loved EN Chuunichama. But she never got to be OGen of Hololive English and the world wept.

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>>2952090
Your insistence that two people saying good morning is proof that they're the same person is making your sound like you actually need to be medicated.

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>>2952115
Spoodfeed since you won’t read:
>Reading this article, you might wonder why is “sayonara” not used so much to say “goodbye” in Japanese for daily life. The reason has a lot to do with the nuances of Japanese culture as “sayonara” has a strong connotation of finality and implies that you will not see the person again.

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>>2952137
Oops: “Spoon feed” not spoodfeed, lol

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>>2952137
Imagine being such a EOP that you actually believe this is true.

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>>2952137
You're losing track of the conversation, schizo.

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>>2952167
>EOP
He doesn't even speak English correctly.

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>>2952115
It’s not that she said Ohayo and nothing more it’s that she said Sayonara. This was her last message on the 18th.

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>>2952206
Re-read through the comment chain, you fucking retarded subhuman.

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>>2952182
A typo really that what you care about? That’s disappointing, since I am apparently wasting my time talking to a child.

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>>2952238
And I'm taking to a monkey who needs to be on antipsychotics to suppress his delusions.

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>>2952033
whatever she is doing, its 100% lore

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>>2952238
Says the schizo ESL who don't even understand basic Japanese..

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>>2952257
So you can’t explain yourself and that’s my fault? Use your fucking words retard. What the fuck are you trying to say?

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>>2952273
>ESL who don't even
You are in no position to judge English.

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>>2952291
This new vtuber isn't Haachama and no amount of insane narrative posting will make it otherwise.

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why even argue its clear that haachama hates cover and was looking for the perfect out so now that we can hear no difference in voice it is her why argue?

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>>2952315
its 100% some SEAnigs or zhangs pushing this stupid narrative

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>>2952257
You still haven’t actually said anything, do you realize that? Nothing but regurgitated catchphrases you picked up like a parrot, and have been waiting to use since someone hurled them at you.

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lol sayonara does not have a "strong" implication you'll never see each other again
you can say "sayonara" to a friend you hang out with 3 times a week and it won't be weird

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>>2940676
She didn't make it yesterday she posted it yesterday. The rrat is retarded but so is your point.

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>>2952344
That makes more sense than everything they have said so far, so I am done with that conversation. Thanks.

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>>2952365
Should I believe you or...?
https://cotoacademy.com/japanese-goodbye-sayonara/

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>>2952394
Japanese is full of words with hidden implications, however those implications will not come to play 90% of the time in a casual enviroment, most people won't think you'll die the next day because you said sayonara.
In the context of haachama's tweet, she is being dramatic, but that's her character for the past 2 months, I don't see it as anything else but another part of her schizo arc

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>>2952365
The fact that you interpret it that way proves you are using it the EOPleb way. She isn’t EOPleb like you so it would hit differently.

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>>2952394
>>2952056
Yeah, keep posting that link. That is why you will never speak Japanese, let alone comprehensible English.

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>>2952394
lmao kids and teachers tell each other "sayonara" after class dude.

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>>2952465
There is the problem, dramatic about what? Nothing happened leading up to that tweet and she was calm as fuck during her Member’s chat. She scheduled that stream 12 hours ahead of time and cancelled it exactly 30 mins before it started. Then said Sayonara due to her unstable mental state, which is also something not typical done in Japanese culture.

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>>2952533
Did you learn Japanese in Japan? Because that is how they would be able to tell. The point is a native speaker would know that even if you don’t.

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>>2952578
>dramatic about what?
She has been acting like an actual schizo for the past 2 months, even more if we take her weird ass streams in australia, this isn't any more dramatic than her silly storyline

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>>2952562
And you probably sound like rubes would when using broken English.

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>>2952668
When she came back after her hiatus she broke the fourth wall and spoke outside of the characters during her members chats. She spoke about them in the third person and discussed the voices she’s used for each them, basically she spoke as the Voice Actor. So you cannot just dismiss her behavior as crazy or whatever, because that is just an act. It was a little disappointing at first, but nice to see her be genuine for the first time ever.

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>>2952780
>but nice to see her be genuine for the first time ever.
Lmao are nu-haatons really like this

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>>2952780
In hindsight I probably wasn’t even supposed to say that.

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>>2952780
Except since the schizo arc started, everything she does on Twitter is in-character, whether it is Haachama or Haato. There's a reason why she only talks as the VA in membership streams anon.

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>>2952807
Have you even seen Luna or Pekora break character? That’s what I am talking about.

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>>2952901
>Pekora
Yes, quite often.
>Luna
Very rare.

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>>2952901
>Pekora
All the time
>Luna
>he thinks she's acting

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>>2940359
I’m not a schizo, but wouldn’t it be possible for Haato to work for both vtuber companies and this channel will be her other vtuber channel?

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>>2953924
No because contracts are a thing and they specifically are made to prevent stuff like that from happening, she can have another vtuber persona if she wants, but she can't work with another company

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In 60 mins
https://youtu.be/62-pWOU-OXY

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>>2953963
What if she negotiated an agreement with cover? Maybe she renegotiated her contract with cover? It’s possible you know.

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>>2953994
Second translation

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>>2940721
>Aria/Haachama Duet
Wtf? They sound exactly the same..

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>>2953996
It more seem like they are using her twitter account to draw attention away from her, so she can’t be found by her audience. It’s not like she can do a face reveal, it’s just avatars and reputation.

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>>2953996
>What if she negotiated an agreement with cover?
Cover can easily deny her because she agreed to the contract and it's still up, if she doesn't want to then she gets fucked by cover and gets blacklisted by other companies because who wants someone that will break a contract if she feels like it. Look at monoe, VOMS isn't even a real company and monoe still got canned for breaking an agreement, you most likely won't see her working for a company with that rep

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>>2954011
>that translation from the second paragraph
What the fuck are you using

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>>2954018
There are a ton of people flooding this site to gaslight you about that. Trust your own instincts. Check out the Haa-ASMR too

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>>2954063
Just deepl for comparison with google sometimes together they actually make sense.

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>>2954018
>Whoa this new vtuber sounds EXACTLY Sio, could it be her?
This is how you sound

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>>2954063
I also try going line by line to get a more clear translation

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>>2954071
What I want to know is can voices really be that similar?

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>>2954116
Nah it's not like this has happened dozens of times with other vtubers already and it's not like most of those cases were wrong too. Never happened before

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>>2954116
I have never heard anyone that sounded like Haachama in my life, so in this situation no.

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>>2954071
You are actually mentally ill though

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>"NOT HER" schizo spammers still going despite mountains of evidence
>their only cope is still talking about company politics that they know nothing about

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>>2954270
>mountains of evidence
meds

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is this nigger really serious?

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>>2954049
Yeah but what if cover accepted and agreed to let Haato have a second vtuber channel? You act like there is a 0% chance of that happening when it’s actually possible if cover agrees.

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>>2954304
>n-no ur the schizo
This is sad.

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>>2954317
He's trying to force this rrat in 3 separate threads. He's losing his grip on reality.

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>>2954337
Anon you've had your fun, it's time to stop. You're starting to believe your own bullshit.

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>>2954323
Let's put the ridiculous scenario that cover would agree to that, why would the other company agree? Having haato still work under cover would only bring bad attention towards both companies, and having haato still work under cover means that she won't work full time as her new persona. And no, haato being a big name doesn't do shit, she won't get any benefits and she won't get her previous fans back, as you can see she has gotten zero attention aside from this place

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>>2940721
I listened to both of them singing that song separately and they don’t sound the same at all.

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>>2940721
it's over, don't believe the revival lies

[Anonymous No.]

i have bad news for you schizos