Why have they failed so spectacularly in capturing the Indonesian market?

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Anonymous Mon Apr 26 09:47:14 2021 No.2961870 [Reply] [Original]

Why have they failed so spectacularly in capturing the Indonesian market?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 09:48:07 2021 No.2961909 It's not just them, it's NijiID as well. The Indonesian market just isn't that big compared to the English one. Plus they're poorfags.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 09:49:02 2021 No.2961955 maybe they should have made a hololive middle east. and north africa branch instead

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 09:50:09 2021 No.2962002 >>2961870 ID JP is generally smaller. The big one is Bangkok, Thailand. The AKB sub branch there has pretty good numbers during sousenkyo. Also they need Connor Milk

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 09:53:25 2021 No.2962116 >>2961870 >the indonesian market that’s the problem. an indonesian market doesn’t exist, they’re just bargain bin holoEN

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 09:56:46 2021 No.2962230
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>>2962116
>>2961909
Pic related speaks only Indonesian and managed to mog Hololive's idols in terms of numbers while winning national sponsorships and regularly being featured on TV. Hololive's ID branch is mostly foreigners and they've failed to penetrate into the market at all. It's why Risu has now committed to doing exlusively ID streams, because Hololive are panicking at how behind they are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 09:57:16 2021 No.2962249 >>2961870 They will never be Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 09:57:34 2021 No.2962262 >>2962230 who

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 09:57:52 2021 No.2962271 >>2962262 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9QnAjC7mT4ggHuedr1_kqQ

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 09:58:03 2021 No.2962278 >>2961870 >muslims listening to women for entire hours

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 09:58:22 2021 No.2962289 >>2962230 But was he always a vtuber? This is important.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 09:59:36 2021 No.2962321 >>2961870 Because there is no Indonesian market. When will you fucks understand, anything outside of Japan and the US is an uninhabited wasteland. The US is an -inhabited- wasteland, either way, Japan is the only place that was worth preserving.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:01:38 2021 No.2962366 It's the same mistake with China. Just because a country has a billion people doesn't translate into a billion viewers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:01:51 2021 No.2962373 >>2962289 Looking through his channel, it definitely seems like he was always a vtuber. His earliest videos are vtuber ones

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:02:07 2021 No.2962379 >>2962271 No wonder he's famous. He's pandering hard to normie ID people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:02:32 2021 No.2962385 >>2962321 See >>2962230

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:03:19 2021 No.2962402 File: 880 KB, 1535x738, old.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2962289 yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:03:23 2021 No.2962403 File: 19 KB, 459x190, 163098349_10220324155042119_8602853283565909230_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2962321 weabo debuff, they need to penetrate normiefags market basically creating controversial shit to get their attention

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:03:55 2021 No.2962420 >>2962321 Japan isn't worth preserving either, have you seen the suicide and overwork rates there? Everywhere sucks, no exceptions.

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:05:37 2021 No.2962464

>>2961870
if we talk about vtuber then we talk about livestreamer as well...indo plebs only watch livestreamer that play popular trash game like Mobile legend , Pubg M , Free fire etc

till now only 1 youtuber considered as successful live streamer at Indo that play various game with various genre

yep only 1 the rest r just your everyday content creator

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:07:36 2021 No.2962523 Does the OP have any market share data to back up the claim?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:09:40 2021 No.2962587 >>2961870 Wait, they failed?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:10:24 2021 No.2962607 >>2962403 pekora don't look

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:14:37 2021 No.2962713 >>2962403 The owner of that channel is also well above 10 million subs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:19:22 2021 No.2962845 >>2962321 But the spice market!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:21:59 2021 No.2962906 >>2962321 There is reason why nijicuk and holobrap salivating on indonesian, but sadly both of them failed

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:22:31 2021 No.2962920 >>2962845 The spice must flow...

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:26:19 2021 No.2963021

There is just too much risk being indonesian vtuber, you are always in constant alert from being doxxed. Those discord shit filled with roommate wastage are mostly from indogs. If you think japs anti are worst then let me introduce you indogs anti.

https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/id/wiki/Ika_Gayou
This innocent girl is the perfect example.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:29:57 2021 No.2963096 Turns out speaking English isn't a good idea if you want to capture your national audience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:30:22 2021 No.2963109 >>2963021 >doxed by her own friend. Jesus.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:32:36 2021 No.2963163 >>2963096 There is just too much languages in indonesia and even lot of them doesnt speak indonesian moreover english

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:33:07 2021 No.2963171 >>2963021 >In the comments on her birthday video, her friend gave Ika's complete personal identity from her real name to her home address But why

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:35:29 2021 No.2963222 >>2961870 I unironically think its because IDs are mostly hardcore muslims and consider vtuber simping as haram

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:35:55 2021 No.2963229 >>2963171 The worst thing about betrayal is that it never comes from an enemy

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:39:34 2021 No.2963299 >>2961870 Turns out there is no Indonesian market.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:43:23 2021 No.2963357 >>2963171 >But why Women

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:56:46 2021 No.2963646

>>2961870
>shit education
>shit social standards
>muslims
combine the above with Internet anonymity for an absolute ape-tier online presence
>poor
>doxx obsession
>"STOP SPEAK ENGLISH"
The indonesian audience is 95% NPC and are a net-negative to have around. Meanwhile the EN audience adore them. Hololive management being as retarded as they are when it comes to affairs that aren't scouting however, may end up just shooting themselves in the foot regardless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 11:01:14 2021 No.2963740 >>2963222 Zoomers there watch anime and become degenerates, just like everywhere else. Being Muslims does not stop that

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 11:03:44 2021 No.2963803 File: 21 KB, 593x517, images (19).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2963222 >zoomer muslims

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 11:29:53 2021 No.2964418

>>2962230
> speaks only Indonesian and managed to mog Hololive's idols in terms of numbers
his last month average stream view are barely around holoid member, and most of his 100k+ are from short less than 10 min video
>regularly being featured on TV
citation needed especially at "regularly" part

if this vtuber that you're referring to is an equivalent to kuzuha or at least kanae in JP, i doubt ID market even viable

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 11:39:29 2021 No.2964672 File: 406 KB, 700x350, Nijisanji_ID_Lineup_August_2020.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WE ARE FORGOTTEN

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 11:45:07 2021 No.2964820 >>2961870 Class divide between id weebs who can speak english (schizos) and non english speaking id weebs (those ultra religious guys who's into anime for whatever reason).

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 12:03:01 2021 No.2965268 >>2963222 A lot of hardcore Muslims in Indonesia are unironic weebs

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 12:32:50 2021 No.2965964 >>2964820 >non english speaking id weebs (those ultra religious guys who's into anime for whatever reason) Like the one DWU interviewed?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 12:40:02 2021 No.2966112 >>2964672 The only successful one is a Burgerclap. The irony!

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 12:45:43 2021 No.2966227
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>>2961909
>The Indonesian market just isn't that big
Dude, Indonesia has one of the biggest youtube market in Asia if not the world, and it's certainly bigger than Japan, for example Deddy's chess match attracted more than 1.5 million concurrent viewers last month, and popular streamers who speak in bahasa can average 90-100k viewers

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 12:52:55 2021 No.2966388

>>2962366
Even besides /ogg/ there are Chinese V-tubers who are doing all right for themselves and making a living off streaming on bilibili. Korea is the only anomaly in the sense that they absolutely have a large enough middle-class demographic to support V-tubers but nobody cares. I'm guessing because Plastic surgery is so common that it's not difficult to find attractive girls IRL so you have less lonely guys turning to V-tubers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 12:54:14 2021 No.2966424 >>2961870 They didn't fail, indonesia just doesn't have as much a market as jp or us

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 12:54:38 2021 No.2966436 >>2966227 So why don't the managers get them permissions to play games that the ID audience wants? Rather than playing the same shit as EN and JP girls, why not hire a girl who's good at mobile games and get her to play Mobile Legends?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 12:55:45 2021 No.2966459 >>2966227 we are talking about people who would want to see vtubers not normal streamers

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 12:56:23 2021 No.2966478 >>2961870 They haven't. The problem is that the Indonesian market for this sort of thing isn't that big in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 12:56:49 2021 No.2966489 Aren't they the top indo vtubers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 12:59:58 2021 No.2966561 >>2966436 These girls can't sing and dance. Also they're ugly, not a good idol prospect.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 13:02:38 2021 No.2966623 >>2966489 yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 13:06:50 2021 No.2966732 >>2962002 Ok neighbor, I know you're trying to be relevant, but Thailand's time in SEA is over. This decade and beyond will be the decades of Indonesia dominating SEA, whether you like it or not.

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 13:12:33 2021 No.2966869

>>2966436
That's one of the most bizarre thing about all of these, in Indo games like PUBG and Mobile Legends are popular as fuck, I guess it's kinda similar to LoL popularity in US or Europe, or Apex in japan
Basically even if you're only half interesting, as long as you're tiny bit well known, people will flock to watch your streams. Being funny or having a kawai anime avatar can only boost that further. On paper ID vtuber is guaranteed success... as long as they pander to the right crowds... and play the right games...

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 13:18:34 2021 No.2967001 >>2961870 Basically, the answer is Indonesian market is still very new in this livestreaming business. But the potential is there, look at >>2962230 >>2962403 and >>2966227

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 13:25:04 2021 No.2967145

Indogs hate themselves. Also they're technically protoEN but the world is just naturally racist to SEAniggers and didn't even give them a chance. With ID1 it's understandable because the ESLness is just so damn grating to the ears. With ID2, you have 2 native-level english speakers yet both of them didn't take off as hard as EN. From there we can conclude that branding is everything to a chuuba's success and ID is eternally cucked because of it.

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 13:25:58 2021 No.2967171

>>2966436
Shitty management. Not the ID one, but the management in Japan. They called themselves startups but they're inflexible and still using old Japanese business model.

I don't watch Maha5 much, but I'm rooting for them and the other local agencies to have more explosive success to show the Japanese agencies that they need to adapt and to put more effort and investment in this particular branch.

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 13:26:49 2021 No.2967199

The girls have permission for pubg, they just probably aren't interested in games like that. No offence the crowd that play pubg and mobile legends aren't really rich and won't likely donate. I have plenty of indo friends that are fluent in english and have higher income than average indos, they all play 3a games or just whale in games like fgo, gbf etc. They all hate zoomer games like pubg and mobile legends.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 13:30:56 2021 No.2967296 File: 112 KB, 259x259, 1609622647126.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >playing either PUBG or Mobile Legends I'd rather Anya stick to her kusoges, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 13:32:18 2021 No.2967333 >>2966388 East Asians hated each other so much they want to kill each other. Korean sees this vtubing thing as a part of Japanese culture so they didn't want to touch it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 13:35:38 2021 No.2967407 >>2966227 So do India or Brazil have huge youtube viewers numbers, but that means little for how many of them actually want to watch vtubers

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 13:40:24 2021 No.2967501

>>2967199
Donations isn't the only source of incomes for vtubers. They have adsense, and the best source of income is sponsorships.

How many local sponsorships did the HoloID get as the biggest vtuber agency in Indo? Zero.
Maha5? Not much, but they got some already.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 13:42:43 2021 No.2967564 >>2967407 kek, do you have any idea why Ichikara and Cover opened their branch in Indo but not in Brazil and India(RIP NijiIN)?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 13:45:56 2021 No.2967642 >>2967564 Not him, but aren't most of those viewers poor anyway?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 13:47:04 2021 No.2967672 File: 41 KB, 468x468, EyTN3l7U4AU0IW2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't give a fuck about the Indog market, but Reine did manage to capture my heart, so theres that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 13:51:56 2021 No.2967813 >>2967642 sponsors want to see big number

>>	Superchat Re(:AcT) Mon Apr 26 15:04:36 2021 No.2969331 >>2967145 >With ID1 it's understandable because the ESLness is just so damn grating to the ears. Is it? I'm ESL myself but I can understand Risu just fine. Is it truly that bad for native english-speaking ears?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 15:15:13 2021 No.2969497 >>2969331 No, he is just being an idiot. The only one I have trouble understanding is Moona but that is because it sounds like she mumbles.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 15:26:04 2021 No.2969671 >>2964672 How many JKs with basic bitch uniform nijisanji have?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 15:33:04 2021 No.2969777 >>2969331 Absolutely not, their pronunciation on a few words is really off but it's cute and you can still understand them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 15:34:59 2021 No.2969822 >>2961870 because there isn't one. If the girls persevere tho, they will get dividends in 2-3 years

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 15:37:40 2021 No.2969877 >>2969331 It's an exaggeration. Risu's voice is a bit off though. Not sure how much of that is her accent vs. her squirrel voice though.

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 16:06:14 2021 No.2970550

>>2969671
I mean looking at the designs, they kinda eased up on that over time. I think there's only 6 JKs during the 2020 wave, and 5 of them are designed that they're part of the same academy.
That said people probably just love JKs, its what the people want

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 17:23:10 2021 No.2972382 >>2962403 this looks like chess wasn't there a recent yab with chess over there? that would explain the viewership

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 17:33:07 2021 No.2972580 >>2962321 nice bait, here's your (You)

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 17:34:35 2021 No.2972601 >>2966227 interesting, this makes me just think even more highly of yagoo being a visionary and we're just so early

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 17:45:18 2021 No.2972769

>>2961870
They are by far the most popular Indonesian vtubers, it's just that the actual Indonesian market is kind of modest overall. Also a lot of Indonesians in the vtuber-watching demographic can speak English so they have to compete against EN, which by default is gonna have higher spec talents.

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 18:04:58 2021 No.2973083

Nice bait anon-kun

Look at Moona she got 620k subs
Ollie around 560k Subs

both of them might be reach 1M subs in this years

moona viewers around
52% foreign
47% Indon

every vtuber in idon want to be like her
and no want to leach her.

did other Idon vtuber can do it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 18:05:42 2021 No.2973101 >>2969331 its their accents and their mannerisms that are grating

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 18:06:25 2021 No.2973113 >>2973083 ahhh i fuckin hate small box reply on thread 4chan

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 18:20:12 2021 No.2973356 >>2973083 Ollie is getting fired though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 18:27:30 2021 No.2973515 >>2962230 >Hololive's ID branch is mostly foreigners Is this a rrat? Moona might be a mutt but otherwise I'm a bit confused what you mean by this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 18:59:35 2021 No.2973515,1 >>2973515 idonesia market bigger than enlglish market

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 19:06:14 2021 No.2974323 >>2962230 >Risu has now committed to doing exlusively ID streams Just checked her last stream (7hs ago), and she speak in perfect english. What the fuck are you talking about?

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 19:10:26 2021 No.2974403

>>2961870
>in capturing the Indonesian market?
All of them are LITERALLY the top subbed ID VTubers what the actual fuck are you on?

They have long surpassed and dominated previous ID pack leader Hana Macchia EVEN ANYA !

This is just another JP wank thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 20:06:46 2021 No.2975865 File: 46 KB, 650x365, images (4).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2961870 https://youtu.be/WKV2lLuWzwM anonchama....indogs normies hates what they can't understand and lazy to learn about that. t.indogs

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 20:12:56 2021 No.2976101 >>2975865 pissed because holo ID stop read their chat. JESAS

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 20:15:12 2021 No.2976175 >>2961870 anon how much nijisanji paying you for this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 20:18:37 2021 No.2976328 >>2975865 So nigger who send M-chan rrant are nijinigger all along, i tought it was just some poor kids.

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 20:20:13 2021 No.2976401

>>2961870
Indonesia is a poor country. Indos don't have money but they have a fuck ton of weebs. To be honest I have no idea how Indonesian vTubers even became a thing.

Second reason is that they don't speak Indonesian. Imagine if Japanese vTubers spoke in a language other than Japanese most of the time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 20:24:21 2021 No.2976551 >>2976328 > "i tought it was just some poor kids" they are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 20:25:41 2021 No.2976610 >>2974403 Hana never has been leader of anything retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 20:28:59 2021 No.2976743 >>2975865 Based indogs nijinigger, jp and en nijifags got no balls to do this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 20:38:43 2021 No.2977155 >>2973083 yo malay nigger, Idk why but it hurt me more to be called indon than indogs. lol.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 20:42:05 2021 No.2977295 >>2963646 Wow almost exactly like the Chinese audience!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 20:45:39 2021 No.2977416 >>2969877 >>2973356 Please do not use "though" at the end of your sentence.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 20:57:34 2021 No.2977975 >>2963646 It just kids. >muslims Astagfirullah brada, there is Based mudslime bros spamming fasting prayer at hlgg before making kiara and ollie bait thread. fckn KEK

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 20:59:21 2021 No.2978040 >>2973515 >>Hololive's ID branch is mostly foreigners He means the fans

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 21:05:44 2021 No.2978257 >>2961870 there's no market to begin with

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 21:08:56 2021 No.2978383 >>2966227 >popular channels just show rich people doing rich things this is sad

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 21:43:02 2021 No.2979635 >>2966561 >can't sing >Fucking Risu >Iofi retardchama...

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 21:44:16 2021 No.2979675 >>2977416 Why though?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 22:13:46 2021 No.2980555 >>2977155 you're welcome we're good buddys

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 00:29:41 2021 No.2985202 File: 64 KB, 256x256, 1611442996554.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2961870 Nice thread nijibros. >>2953623 >>2955129 >>2957618

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 01:27:24 2021 No.2987163 >>2966561 >they're ugly Are you fucking blind? Majority of Holo and Niji ID avatars looks good, especially Reine. If you're talking about roommate then you can gtfo faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 01:39:29 2021 No.2987518 Funny how 90% of this thread operates under the assumption that the ID branch is a failure. I don't really see anything to indicate that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 01:47:36 2021 No.2987723 >>2987518 b-b-bbut their fans are not indonesian, so they must have fail as a local branch t.nijinigger

Anonymous Tue Apr 27 01:49:20 2021 No.2987774

>>2961870
As someone who was around a while, Gen 1 decided to aim for the english market because Holo EN didn't exist (Easy ass numbers for them). Then Holo EN existed making them have difficulty growing since they ignored the ID market.
Thusly, they are where they are now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 01:54:55 2021 No.2987924 >>2987774 ID1 had their live numbers damn near double after Holo EN debuted

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 01:54:58 2021 No.2987926 >>2987774 En boosted ID1 numbers retard. Besides they already have the indog weebs community who mostly can speak english. Holoid not popular with ID audience is a rrats nijinigger used to cope.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 02:19:11 2021 No.2988474 >>2966732 Indonesia can't even find a submarine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 02:21:01 2021 No.2988524 >>2987926 Nobody mention Nijisanji here other than Niji also suffered the same problem. They both get mogged by Maha5 and normie streamer. Seriously, take your med.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 02:21:28 2021 No.2988532 >>2962230 Even clipfags get more views than this vroid indog.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 02:23:46 2021 No.2988602 >>2988474 It has been found yesterday anon, and it's a submarine. It's designed to be undetected.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 02:26:13 2021 No.2988668 >>2988602 At least you manage to find it. We cannot even find that damn commercial plane even now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 02:26:40 2021 No.2988676 holo MY and SG when

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 02:26:44 2021 No.2988677 >>2988524 Explain this video then nigger >>2975865 What is this if not nijinigger doing their usual sabotage

Anonymous Tue Apr 27 02:54:18 2021 No.2989307
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>>2988677
>one guy posted about a video about some opinion of a guy who think Nijisanji is better than Hololive in calm, reasonable manner because he doesn't like idol culture of Hololives and prefer Nijisanji who is more human. He also claim that they both never compete with each other and both cater to completely different fanbase.
Yup. Time for your med.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 03:00:37 2021 No.2989453 >>2977975 >Astagfirullah brada, there is Based mudslime bros spamming fasting prayer at hlgg before making kiara and ollie bait thread. Sounds comfy af

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 06:11:50 2021 No.2992459 >>2964672 Hana still exists even if the (true but retarded to say) "we're just like all the e-thots" statement and Holo ID's growth killed her momentum.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 06:44:57 2021 No.2993031 >>2985202 >>2975865 >>2988677 SEAnijiniggers are the worst, elitist little monkeys think they're so much better for watching Nijisanji and go out of their way to shit on HoloID and the rest of Hololive.

Anonymous Tue Apr 27 06:47:04 2021 No.2993075

>>2966388
>because Plastic surgery is so common that it's not difficult to find attractive girls IRL so you have less lonely guys turning to V-tubers.
That doesn't make sense. The thing with lonely guys is that they can't get those girls, how attractive they are is irrelevant.

The only way I can see plastic surgery being relevant that Korean e-girls may be able to compete with anime girls in terms of attractiveness/cuteness.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 06:49:25 2021 No.2993113 >>2966227 The total market? Sure. But how big is the vtuber market? If their market is big but few indos want to see vtubers, then ID vtubers aren't going to be that successful.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 06:50:22 2021 No.2993135 >>2961870 MAHA5!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 06:51:08 2021 No.2993151 >>2978383 Chess isn't a "rich thing"

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 06:53:40 2021 No.2993191 >>2992459 I'd say it was less HoloID's growth and more the debut of HoloEN that killed Hana's momentum.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 06:59:51 2021 No.2993295 >>2966227 >Deddy's chess match The guy's an irl celebrity, it's as disingenuous to compare Vtubers to him as it is to compare them to the ratings of some soap opera on national tv or something.

Anonymous Tue Apr 27 07:14:16 2021 No.2993557

>>2993031
Their way of coping is always hilarious, first its always Niji ID is more popular with locals and Holo ID is full of foreigners. When that is proven false they shift toward smaller audience is more comfier anyway!!. God just nuke this region already, im willing to be part of the sacrifice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 07:34:00 2021 No.2993876 >>2989307 the comment section is hilariously coped, I also read some holo id bros trowing fact that nijingger got no balls to argue with them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 07:42:05 2021 No.2994063 File: 170 KB, 1039x918, based.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2977975 Based Muslim bros

Anonymous Tue Apr 27 07:44:56 2021 No.2994120

>>2966388
Korea is an anomaly because the streaming market was already completely saturated prior to the rise of Vtubers. There isn't really any particular novelty or upside to being a Vtuber when Korean streamers had been using 2D avatars for a long time. Additionally, most Korean streamers are on Twitch, AfreecaTV or KakaoTV, not Youtube.

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Anonymous Tue Apr 27 07:47:15 2021 No.2994161
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>Their way of coping is always hilarious, first its always Niji ID is more popular with locals and Holo ID is full of foreigners. When that is proven false they shift toward smaller audience is more comfier anyway!!. God just nuke this region already, im willing to be part of the sacrifice.

Anonymous Tue Apr 27 07:48:51 2021 No.2994194
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>>2993876
Are you talking about this long ass comment that we should not hate the streamers but the company that restrict them? While I agree with him, his comments reek insecurity and defensive. Ironically, he basically agreed that Cover is shit without realizing it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 07:49:19 2021 No.2994202 File: 33 KB, 794x482, moonaqs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2962230 >Hololive's ID branch is mostly foreigners Then explain this

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 07:51:36 2021 No.2994236 >>2994202 Are you serious anon? Nobody outside of /vt/ would say EN only thats awkward as fuck like colonizing the indo branch or some shit. Everyone saying mix is an EOP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 07:53:15 2021 No.2994271 >>2994236 Why wouldn't you respond with the content you actually want? That's the point of the poll.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 07:56:05 2021 No.2994336 >>2994236 This is why we have this split language flu on holoID. Retard like you who cant understand he is in the thread full of indog speaking english and definitely choosing the mix option.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 07:56:40 2021 No.2994348 >>2966227 are you not aware there was a drama behind that match? Deddy wont even care about chess if the drama never happen

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 07:58:14 2021 No.2994380 >>2994336 Yeah EOP kids definitely only make ~10% of their audience. It’s definitely not that burgers have an aversion to telling people to speak english and not their native language.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 07:59:02 2021 No.2994392 >>2993151 it's as much a chess as magnus' I need to go to the loo game

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 07:59:33 2021 No.2994407 >>2994236 what's wrong with colonizing Indonesia?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:01:36 2021 No.2994453 File: 112 KB, 777x437, fpi-12.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2994063 >>2994142 GARDA ISLVM

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:02:05 2021 No.2994462 File: 82 KB, 300x400, unnamed (5).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2994407

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:04:17 2021 No.2994494 >>2994194 Cover is unironically shit anon, but only those who care can shit on them. Not those insecure nigger trying to justify their failure of a branch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:04:18 2021 No.2994495 File: 167 KB, 1024x680, 1594192683_rizieq-shihab-antara-wahyu-putro-ajpg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2994063 how can nijifags even compete?

Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:18:21 2021 No.2994774

>>2994494
The difference between shittyness of Cover with their sexual harassment, nearly canceling Towa for talking with a man in discord, massive panic video take down, and ending Haachama's /x/ arc are completely different beast compared to Nijisanji toilet paper problem (which happen back when Nijis was a small company ran by bunch of college students), that fastest graduation where retard trying to get in Nijisanji to fuck female livers, and 2 Menheras arguing with each other over fucking accent. Because former were from company itself and still a problem even now, and latter were nothing burger that had been swiftly dealt. Also Nijisanji Id is perfectly fine. Maybe they don't have bloated numbers like Holo but they wouldn't be closed down like Nijisanji In. The fact that Ichikara still manages to run Nijisanji In for a year proof that Nijisanji Id will run forever with no problem.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:21:10 2021 No.2994854 >>2994407 Everyone's done it, it's like sticking your dick in the village bike at this point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:23:10 2021 No.2994880 >>2994774 Your average nijicope lol.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:25:34 2021 No.2994928 >>2994774 >retard trying to get in Nijisanji to fuck female livers Was his name Shindo Raito?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:29:05 2021 No.2994998 File: 190 KB, 1440x1702, USER_SCOPED_TEMP_DATA_orca-image-693451858.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2961870 Because Indonesian Jannie Niggers You can keep trying jannie indog niggers, but we won't forget

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:31:52 2021 No.2995050 File: 22 KB, 505x607, images (2).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Because Indonesian Jannie Niggers >You can keep trying jannie indog niggers, but we won't forget

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:36:51 2021 No.2995155 >>2995050 Go back to /int/, indog-kun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:45:02 2021 No.2995348 File: 646 KB, 865x819, 1619285732489.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Go back to /int/, indog-kun.

Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:46:05 2021 No.2995378

>>2994774
The difference between shittyness of Ichikara with their shitty scouting rapist inside the agency, poor mismanagement of oversea branch which lead to shutting down chinese and india branch, massive collab restriction on early days, and taking the more popular menhera side when 2 bitches have a cat fight which end with one menhera BTFO'd and another missing for 6 month are completely different beast compared to Hololive termination one menhera: which happen back when Holos was a small company run by a mint with simple dream, that issue with a towa who was a newbie taking hiatus which turned out to be voluntary, and 2 talents getting 3 hiatus because they are being attacked by bugmen over fucking word. Because the company still have branch in bugman world and thus they need to calm everyone down. Also Nijisanji id is perfectly in danger. Maybe they will get graduation stream soon if they dont have enough number.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:46:24 2021 No.2995386 >>2964672 >12 (twelve) fucking chuubas What the fuck were they thinking

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:50:54 2021 No.2995481 >>2995386 Nothing. Niji is all about quantity.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:54:00 2021 No.2995552 >>2995386 >at least one will work out And they were sort of right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 08:55:58 2021 No.2995578 >>2995378 Who is this rapist you keep talking?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 09:01:39 2021 No.2995706 >>2995386 Niji doesn't understand that to get people to care about their talents they'd need to actually promote their existing ones and build up a brand. Instead, they just push out chuuba after chuuba and see what sticks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 09:03:58 2021 No.2995766 >>2962321 >Japan is the only place that was worth preserving. was it perserved in WW2?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 09:08:38 2021 No.2995876 File: 225 KB, 1024x616, Ez5EG72VEAQeudq_eh2lyf8zjt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2995706 But they did? The whole years where they promote JK Gumi as their magnum opus? Kuzuha and Kanae? Yashiro? Sanbaka?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 09:21:03 2021 No.2996146 File: 69 KB, 600x600, 36589982680868099338.large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2962845

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 09:28:42 2021 No.2996348 >>2996146 Remember when you swapped New York for Run?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 09:29:30 2021 No.2996366 >>2962845 My 25% Dutch ancestry calls my amerimutt self to conquer the seas of Asia

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 09:33:05 2021 No.2996464 >>2995578 Probably refers to the male niji who hit on female niji streamers immediately after joining and consequentely getting suspended after not even a week.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 09:35:57 2021 No.2996550 why don't they just rename it to Holo global

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 09:41:07 2021 No.2996691 >>2966227 ha so that's why people keep making an ID branch. idk why but i always though Indonesia was this small island, didn't think they even had a population in the millions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 09:41:10 2021 No.2996692 >>2996464 >trying to hit on female vtuber is considered a rapist now. >that guy even got fired immediately. Yup. That schizo definitely a tranny overdose with hormones.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 09:41:46 2021 No.2996711 >>2996550 Because they're all Indogs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 10:17:40 2021 No.2997687 I feel like HoloES would be successful

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 11:02:42 2021 No.2998804 >>2994202 >ID only beats EN only by a wide margin English bros we lost...........

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 11:08:15 2021 No.2998934 >>2995876 I didn't give a shit about vtubers until a year ago but kept up with other weeb hobbies, and apart from Mito I had no idea who any of those were. Not that it was any better on the Holo side, where I only knew about Fubuki and Aqua.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 11:10:20 2021 No.2998999 >>2998804 >a whole 3%

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 11:29:08 2021 No.2999468 >>2998999 7% to 4% it's almost double the difference

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 11:32:26 2021 No.2999572 >NijiID has captured the Indonesian market better than HoloID. Nope >Oh well NijiID doesn't need HoloID anyway and is better than them https://twitter.com/Hana_Macchia/status/1387061156292927488

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 11:36:11 2021 No.2999694 >>2999572 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvgZkm1xWPE

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 12:18:57 2021 No.3000939 >>2996692 Yup. A new method of nijicope. Blame it on Tranny

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