/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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Gay shark!

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>>29701111
Does she still stream? She hasn't acked yet?

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>>29701235
Lol when has h...s....it ever streamed?

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>>29701235
>She

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I entertain the idea that Shartemis may be biologically female with bad voice genetics after hearing how masculine Leaflit's voice sounds.

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>>29701111
Has there ever been an Artemis thread that wasn't full of "she's played by a dude" theories? Even Zentreya doesn't have this many people complaining about trannies, and it's basically confirmed for her.

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>>29701453
Oops

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>>29701710
no. i think there used to occasionally be a general for her but it was when she streamed more frequently but i remember that being a thing there too. it's just an npc response to certain stimuli, you kind of learn to ignore it at a certain point.

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>>29701710
It's not a theory. She has the most obvious trans inflection imaginable, she's a transwoman

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>>29702580
proof?

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>>29702903
it came to me in a dream

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>>29702903
Just meet and talk to any transwoman, 90% of them sound like Artemis

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>>29701111
Can I fuck the gay out of him?

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>>29702975
they typically sound a lot worse

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>>29701111
when will he neck himself?

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>>29702975
not a proof

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>>29701111
>Artemis of the Dude

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>>29702975
There was a girl in my school in 9th grade. She had a deep voice and got bullied and ostracized.
Unfortunately she didn't have a strong mental to own up to it, so she felt ashamed.
Fuck them kids. She could've become a voice actress later, such a shame

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I sometimes see threads if her pop up, why should I care if she’s trans or not? I’ve seen no other complaints on her.

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>>29701235
>she
That's a man, baby!

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>>29703636
>she
>her

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>>29703636
Because trannies are a disease in the West that need to be the opposite of normalised.

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>>29703800
i think a fair few trannies are probably at least somewhat less mentally ill than your average /vt/ poster, (You) included

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>>29703800
You’re the last person to talk about mental illness when you browse this board full of autistic people, schizophrenics & pedophiles. I want a real reason on why she’s bad not some bullshit based on how a person decided to make their outie an innie and that’s now running the already shit state of civilization.

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>>29703800
t. childless single man

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Artemis doesn't have a deep voice. He has a male voice. Kronii has a deeper voice than Artemis, but her voice is distinctly feminine. Artemis sounds like a man raising the pitch of his voice.

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>>29701111
So what is this shark up to, been a long ass time, don't even see them chat it up to the vtubers they used to interact with

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>>29701111
Its a guy.
Hes straight.

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>>29701710
Nobody cares about vwhorejo.
They are all nasty thots or trannies its a given.

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>>29703891
>>29704097
>>29704118
Go tie a noose and stretch out your neck a bit, troon. One thing I have going for me is that I'm not an uncanny man pretending to be a woman because my brain has been rotted inside out by a social contagion that's popped up in the last 10 years. That's a level of madness that even I haven't achieved.

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>>29704097
>not some bullshit based on how a person decided to make their outie an innie and that’s now running the already shit state of civilization.
'Despotism may govern without faith, but liberty cannot. How is it possible that society should escape destruction if the moral tie is not strengthened in proportion as the political tie is relaxed? And what can be done with a people who are their own masters if they are not submissive to the Deity?'
- Alexis de Tocqueville, 'De La Démocratie en Amérique'

Post scriptum:
I will never believe you over Tocqueville so I wouldn't bother in the attempt to convince me to do so.

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I require her feet

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>>29702903
Nigger aint no one taking a vacation for you.
>>29701710
Because people accepted Zen since at this point it's pointless to even comment on.

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>>29704873
Go back to your own country instead of trying to make the US another crime-ridden papist shithole.

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>>29704990
>US
>not already crime-ridden
lol.

'The main business of religions is to purify, control, and restrain that excessive and exclusive taste for well-being which men acquire in times of equality'.
- Alexis de Tocqueville, 'De La Démocratie en Amérique'

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>>29705145
nta, but can you speak your own mind or just in quotes from the 19th century?

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>>29705570
>speak your own mind
Name one thing you thought of yourself, that hasn't already been thought.

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>>29704870
Why should I care about another person’s life if it doesn’t directly affect me in anyway? It’s not like their choices affect my quality of life in anyway.

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>>29706774
That's very selfish of you.

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But is Artemis entertaining at all? Good at games at all? Funny? Anything noteworthy, at all? I'm asking honestly, I know nothing about this particular shark.

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>>29704870
i will never be a woman because i don't want to be but it's a bit telling that everyone who disagrees with you has to be a specific kind of person in order to fit your addled worldview

>>29707053
not really any more or less than any other vtuber is. since when has being actually good at video games correlated to the popularity or likedness of a vtuber?

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>>29706774
>just use the pronouns bigot
>just fundamentally change the way you treat this person based on a lie bigot
>just call up down and left right bigot it's a post-truth world now and you have to validate their insanity
>if you don't well then we'll try as hard as we can to make you persona non grata.
>How does it affect you at all?

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>>29708675
victim complex much

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>>29707565
>because i don't want to be
No, that'd be because you weren't born one. You can't frankenstein your way into being a woman.
>addled worldview
The addled worldview is the one that's telling men that they can be women and vice versa.

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>>29708675
This desu.
We need to bring back: 'don't ask; don't tell'.

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>>29708790
Yeah, trannies who kill themselves, or worse cry to some authority for change, if they don't receive 100% validation do seem to have a bit of a victim complex.

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>>29708790
Am I permitted to say that to a tranny?

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>>29708995
yeah of course. it doesn't change that when i read that message i see someone with insane hangups if all they think about is being called a bigot

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>>29708675
I've never been forced to do any of that though? Sounds like a made up slippery slope.

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>>29701111
The right gay shark.

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>>29709611
>gay
you might want to sit down for this, anon...

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>>29709611
>dubs
>op got quads
It's over. Gura has lost...

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>>29709059
If all you got from that post was being called a bigot, then you need to practice your reading comprehension. You're making the same dumb claim everyone makes that gender ideology doesn't affect people.
The reality is that it fundamentally divorces people from reality by grooming them (by changing what they say and do) into rejecting a basic truth about the nature of it. And any contradiction to this idea that gender is changeable and on a spectrum is met with conditioned bleeting condemation and cancellation.
That's a bad thing. If you can't see that then you're lost.

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>>29709059
Imagine being hung up on what words people use to refer to you.

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>>29701710
That's because there's nothing else to talk about, she's boring and uninteresting, people hyped her debut when she was a vtweeter because of the high quality model and dropped immediately on debut

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>>29709567
Try treating a transgender as the gender they were born as, and not the one they've convinced themselves they are. See what happens.

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>>29710052
>she
>her

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I'm going to be honest, if I could change these people into *biological* and uncanny males/females, I would.
Unfortunately reality and the universe do not bow to man, and thus you will have to undergo years of therapy and get a gym membership instead.

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>>29709932
imagine being hung up on what words people use to refer to themselves

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>>29710233
When they put pressure on me to use those same words that indicate them as something that they're not then of course I'm not going to like it. Especially if they ugly and uncanny.

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>>29710190
Man this is going to turn into a blogpost.
To add to that you can't really genetically modify yourself to become a man or woman.
I mean the dangers of genetic modification to yourself are pretty hefty ranging from cancer to death.
I mean, it's like wanting to look like a Korean even thought you're black.
Surgery/HRT isn't really a good idea either since you're basically removing your body parts and pumping hormones that your body never really produced usually.
Again that's a sort mixture of my own subjective thoughts/opinions and objective facts.
Anyways sorry for that, I'm out.

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>>29709925
Pro-tip: leftists make a deliberate disctinction between 'sex' and 'gender'.
'Sex' is biological, physical apparition; 'gender' is how 'society defines the sex' or some such bullshit.

Basically, they've been playing with semantics this whole time and never told anybody so they could 'own the bigots' whenever somebody 'confuses' sex and gender.

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>>29710602
i understand your position, speaking from experience, but it's not really that different from refusing to call someone by their name. there's nothing wrong with like, assuming someone's gender if they don't pass and/or you don't know. but if they say they'd prefer to be referred to one way and you at least make some effort, not even a lot, to respect how they want to be referred to, 99% of trannies are going to be understanding. it makes sense, because until someone really convincingly looks mostly one or the other it isn't intuitive to refer to them as such purely on instinct.

i used to work retail and "man / ma'am" was a good way to ambiguously refer to someone you weren't completely sure about because if asked you could just say you said the other

>>29710799
hrt is generally a better and safer route than surgery and the hope is that hrt will be enough to get people to a place where they're comfortable with themselves

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>>29711164
>comfortable with themselves
Is a Nazi allowed to be comfortable with himself?

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why are rightoid zoomers obsessed with trannies? is it fear? envy? desire even...?

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>>29710602
I mean it's not people go around calling you a virgin incel loser to your face even though you are one. Basically the same idea.

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>>29711158
i am pretty sure the gender/sex distinction has existed for like 40+ years, it's just that kids probably spent a lot of time growing up in education where "gender" was used instead of "sex" because teachers didn't want to say the sex word in front of kids. there really isn't an interest in "owning" anyone with this among anyone who doesn't live on twitter, when people point it out it's more to inform people typically than to dunk on them.

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>>29711270
in what sense? they should be allowed to do whatever they want to their body, if that's what you're asking.

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>>29711274
'The main business of religions is to purify, control, and restrain that excessive and exclusive taste for well-being which men acquire in times of equality'.
- Alexis de Tocqueville, 'De La Démocratie en Amérique'

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>>29710117
have you tried not? It really isn't that hard. You'll live one day without /pol/tardation.

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>>29711403
That people should be forced to accept them.
Or can I attack trannies on the street as well? because that's what happens to Nazis.

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>>29711158
I know that. I just don't buy it at all. Gender is just the expression of the two biological sexes. Any room these loons think there is for new genders, or in betweens, or changing has already been better described in the past by just saying "That's a feminine male", or "That's a tomboy". They've added a layer of identity obsessed mental illness on top of that that's only function is tricking people into wasting time and distracting themselves consumed with thought about stupid, inconsequential shit.

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>>29711332
The point is nobody fucking cares about the disction, only leftist scum.

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>>29711584
do you think that there's maybe a difference with associating with an explicitly genocidal ideology from world war ii and men and women dressing as women and men, respectively? nazis want to kill other people, trannies want to kill themselves.

in spite of this, their bodily autonomy is something i value as a principle as much as anyone else's.

>>29711700
the distinction is useful occasionally, that's why it exists.

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>>29711164
>but it's not really that different from refusing to call someone by their name
Heard this one before too. It is different from that. You can get a boy called Brent, or a girl called Brent without it saying anything about their gender. implicit in calling someone by the opposite gender, or new pronouns is an acknowledgement that that shit is valid.
>you at least make some effort
I don't respect the idea behind transgenderism, so why would I lie and pretend that I respect the weird way they want me to use language? Fuck that insanity.

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>>29711616
>I just don't buy it at all
Neither do I. People use words interchangably all the time but leftists can't accept this.
In any case: it's easier to just shoot leftists dead than argue with them.

'you ought never to suffer your designs to be crossed in order to avoid war, since war is not so to be avoided, but is only deferred to your disadvantage'.
- 'De Principatibus'

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>>29711318
Dilate your faggot fanny a little harder, freak. Gotta get that ax wound to stay open.

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>>29711920
But you want to kill Nazis, you hypocrite.

Or should be ban America as well? because America was genocidal AND racist during 1940.

'There are no innocent civilians. It is their government and you are fighting a people, you are not trying to fight an armed force anymore. So it doesn't bother me so much to be killing the so-called innocent bystanders'.
- Curtis LeMay, General of the US Air Force

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo

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>>29711274
Disgust primarily. Like any normal person. It's also you zoomies who tend to love your gender wankery more than us.

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>>29711920
>genocide is bad
>I wish all Nazis, Fascists, bigots et cetera were wiped off the face of the Earth

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>>29711947
i'm more referring to a case where someone tells you what their name is and you call them something else for no reason other than not respecting a person. i don't think it's unreasonable to refer to someone by he or she if asked, even if it doesn't match their physical or biological makeup. where we may find some common ground is when new words are pointlessly made up to snowflakeify someone's transness, however.

>>29712146
>but you want this thing you never said
the only hypocrisy you see is that which you apparently want to see.

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>>29711531
>have you tried not?
Why would i treat someone as a gender they're not. Dude, I'm already schizo enough without inviting that sort of reality-bending shit into my life.

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>>29712292
So your all inclusive society will allow Nazis?
Cool.
So I can safely walk the streets, without being attacked, in your perfect society? That's really considerate of you. I love dressing as a Nazi desu, I'm so glad you're so inclusive.

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>>29712277
no freedom for the enemies of freedom.

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>>29712428
as long as you aren't interested in acting out any of the ideology associated that infringes upon the freedoms of another person, yes. you should have the freedom to dress how you'd like and think how you'd like. i understand peoples' uneasiness with the idea, but you should still have that right.

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>>29712292
>and you call them something else for no reason other than not respecting a person
A man can have the name Alice. It might be faggoty, but it's not the same thing as referring to someone using pronouns that don't describe their actual gender, and instead describe someone fanciful ideal gender that they want, or in most cases demand, that I refer to them as, but that is wrong. Of course I hate these people.Why would anyone not have disdain for these fucking aliens?

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>>29712562
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy
>Hypocrisy is the practice of engaging in the same behavior or activity for which one criticizes another

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>see 87 posts
>enter thread
>only see 13 posts
Guess my filters are working well
haha...

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>>29712583
>as long as you aren't interested in acting out any of the ideology associated that infringes upon the freedoms of another person
Ohh suuure, of course not.
Me and the boys just love cosplay. The firearms, artiller, tanks, planes, bombs et cetera are just part of it! Owning them isn't, per se, infringing on anybody's rights!

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>>29703891
Aw yes, im more ill than a retard having his dick and balls removed, and changed into a chinese bootleg Vagina.

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>>29712593
i had a harder time unlearning my friend of many years' name than unlearning referring to that person using he / him / his

>>29712771
arty thread becoming trans discourse thread. just another day.

>>29712832
do you think it's a little weird that this gotcha was supposed to illustrate mine or others' unwillingness to extend the same acceptance of a different ideology but you have constantly at every turn tried to insinuate that you have violent intent should you be given even an inch of lenience? just asking questions, of course.

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>>29712969
Retards feeding delusions of basket cases with no remorse.

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>>29712969
The 'gotcha' was supposed to illustrate that I can own a nuclear fucking bomb and that 'doesn't personally effect anybody's life'...until I fucking detonate it.

>Why should I care about another person’s life if it doesn’t directly affect me in anyway? It’s not like their choices affect my quality of life in anyway.
You see? I can OWN a nuclear bomb and still respect this person's 'personal life'.

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>>29712969
>unlearning
How about not doing anything as sinister as unlearning in the first place? You've done your friend a great disservice if you just went along with and enabled that shit by the way. He could've used someone to talk some sense into him and convinced him into not falling for the transgender meme.

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DEATH TO LEFISTS.
CIVIL WAR NOW.

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>>29713293
I'll warm up the camps.

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>>29713187
oh that quoted line wasn't my post, i just felt like replying to you at some point. is your point that people with ideology different than yours should be snuffed out pre-emptively for wrongthink before they've actually done anything? because i can't really follow what you're trying to say now.

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>>29713293
I fucking wish mate

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>>29713366
Retard cant think :(

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>>29713366
Eating shit doesnt affect anybody.
It still is disgusting and proof of mental illness. You dont feed the delusion of the mentally ill, how hard is that.

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>>29713366
>people with ideology different than yours should be snuffed out pre-emptively for wrongthink
Short of actually killing, trannies will go to lengths to deplatform and unperson those who speak basic wrongthink truths like that there are only two genders. if they could get away with killing you, they probably would.

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>>29713366
>is your point that people with ideology different than yours should be snuffed out pre-emptively for wrongthink before they've actually done anything?
Yes.
All societies do this; there has not existed, in the history of mankind, one that doesn't do this.

>modern America does it
lol.


'Anyone who clings to the historically untrue and thoroughly immoral doctrine that violence never settles anything I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and their freedoms'.

'Man is what he is, a wild animal with the will to survive, and (so far) the ability, against all competition. Unless one accepts that, anything one says about morals, war, politics—you name it—is nonsense. Correct morals arise from knowing what man is—not what do-gooders and well-meaning old Aunt Nellies would like him to be'.

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>>29713612
yeah i think that's bad too

>>29713641
why do you keep quoting things nobody in the thread said and go off about it

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>>29713366
'Upon this, one has to remark that men ought either to be well treated or crushed, because they can avenge themselves of lighter injuries, of more serious ones they cannot; therefore the injury that is to be done to a man ought to be of such a kind that one does not stand in fear of revenge'.

'Hence it comes that all armed prophets have been victorious, and all unarmed prophets have been destroyed'.

'The chief foundations of all states, new as well as old or composite, are good laws and good arms; and as there cannot be good laws where the state is not well armed, it follows that where they are well armed they have good laws'.

'Many have imagined republics and principalities which have never been seen or known to exist in reality; for how we live is so far removed from how we ought to live, that he who abandons what is done for what ought to be done, will rather bring about his own ruin than his preservation'.
- 'De Principatibus'

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>>29713896
>nobody in the thread said
Oh dear, you're dumber than I thought. Well, it explains a lot.

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I don't care what Artemis is behimd the character. The important part is that they're boring as fuck. Aside from a model that was impressive for its time, Artemis never had a real hook or interesting quality and leans too hard into the "I'm gay" aspect. They have always been mediocre at best at games and struggle to keep an engaging conversation going with others. Since their model and rigging quality has been surpassed byultiple others in the past year, they really have nothing else noteworthy to them other than the "are they trans?" speculation. It's telling that it's all people seem to know and talk about.

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>>29714474
>They
Dude, just call him he instead of playing their games.

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>>29711274
Uncanny valley effect. Same as being disturbed by almost-but-not-quite-real humanoid robots.

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>>29714596

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That means he likes dudes right.

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>>29711332
>>29711920
The word "racism" used to mean discrimination and prejudice against a person based on their racial appearance or lineage. Today leftists are trying to foist a new definition of "prejudice plus power" on the public discourse and looking down on everyone who doesn't play along.

These are the same people actively muddying the water around the words gender and sex, where they could use something like "gender roles", or gender attributes or gender stereotypes to be honest and specific about what they mean. Instead they end up reciting quasi-religious mantras like "a trans woman is a woman and a trans man is a man" over and over in online and offline discourse. An honest way to say it would be "a trans woman deserves to be treated with the same rights and privileges as a biological woman". It's a manipulation of language with the intent to make any opposing or mildly alternative view appear immediately immoral and hateful.

In the same breath they'll tell you someone being trans in public has no effect on you, and then call you a bigot if you say you wouldn't want to date a hypothetical woman with a dick. It's almost becoming a "religious church without a god".

I'm all for live and let live for however people want to express themselves and I abhor the physical and verbal assaults that mouth breather rightists and chauvinists make on trans people but I don't have to find them attractive or celebrate them.

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Wtf is this thread, go back to /pol/ faggots.

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>>29712687
>libtards OWNED with facts and logic
No, anon, if someone openly wants to kill a certain group then he's an actual threat to the society and it's better off to actually kill him. It's merely defense.