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29830760 No.29830760 [Reply] [Original]

No matter how you dice it, there's been a straight decline in Myth's stream hours since January 2022.
What is going on?

>> No.29830903
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Here's another graph that shows each member's individual streams.
If the post-2022 trend continues, we can expect HoloEN to last roughly another year.

>> No.29830993

>>29830760
more projects
people will call them lazy though

>> No.29833144

>>29830760
They’re burned out.

>> No.29833302

I stopped watching them shortly before holofes3. Only holoEN girl I watch now is Fauna, and the Tempus guys has been great so far.

>> No.29833319
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I have no idea OP, but I still like them

>> No.29833352

>>29830760
Gura stopped streaming, the rest are pretty much the same bar the off collab arc

>> No.29833389

>>29830760
Mass graduation

>> No.29833465

Council debuted to pick up the slack so Myth doesn't need to carry EN on their backs alone. They should have debuted Council sooner.

>> No.29833486

The jp holos use the invincible seiso to lewd bounce formula but the en holos expect their personalities alone (although some of them used to be more creative) to carry their channels. Problem is, this never lasts in the entertainment industry. You really have to innovate and give the audience something new at least somewhat frequently. Doesn't help that they seem burned out.

>> No.29833556

>>29830760
does anyone see the bars in the chart expanding and contracting up and down?
weird optical illusion

>> No.29833669

>>29830993
What projects? Where are they? The JPs actually consistently put out projects that show they're busy outside of streaming yet still have people that stream hours comparable to a full time job. What are people like Kronii doing when they're not streaming?

>> No.29833726

Kiara seems to still be going strong. She'll be the last one left, huh?

>> No.29833956

>>29833352
Everyone has declined, some more than others(Ame and Gura)

>> No.29834259

Would love to see this for council.

Thank fuck for the boys. I actually have something to watch every night now. Hopefully Gen 3 drops this month

>> No.29834262

>>29830760
what's good gay boy

>> No.29834718

>>29833669
Anonchama.

>> No.29834833

>>29834259
Gen three is the boys though

>> No.29835044

>>29834833
Your plan failed, Omegay.

>> No.29835063

>>29833302
Did you come out to your parents yet?

>> No.29835132

>>29835063
Yes, I told them that I’m going to marry you anon.

>> No.29835265

>>29830760
They're too fat, full of simp money. Once they go broke, expect them to grind for more money.

>> No.29835338

>>29833669
EN3 really needs at least two actual dedicated streamers to carry the whole branch, and ideally someone like Miko, Mio, Towa or FBK who is actually able to take initiative and organize shit. Mori kinda covered that role in the past but I feel like her music career is too much of a time and energy sink to let her carry that responsibility too. There's Kiara I guess, but she could definitely use a hand.

>> No.29835642

>>29830760
Dead hours are killing EN

>> No.29835882

>>29835642
I have a crippling methamphetamine addiction

>> No.29835949

>>29830760
Some one please post HoloJP gen2 stream hours!
I bet they're deader than Myth!

>> No.29836870

>>29830760
They're all taking summer vacations since covid restrictions relaxed.

>> No.29839001

>>29835338
>Mori kinda covered that role
lol wat
Almost every big EN event was organized by Kiara

>> No.29839324

>>29833669
Yes and EN doesn't have members hurting vocal cord seriously due to that
>inb4 Irys
She is Japanese

>> No.29839468

>>29839001

You mean by Ame. They all go out of their way to constantly talk about how much Ame does for them behind the scenes.

That aside, it is kind of pathetic how little they do considering how much their getting paid. The average person works 160 hours a month; the only one that barely passes half of that is Kiara, but that's because she's the worst of the group and has to put in some effort to keep a fan base.

Gura, Ina, and iRys aren't even working 12 hours a week. Ame and Mori are barely working that and Kiara is working roughly 24 hours a week.

>>29830993

What projects? We're seeing absolutely nothing that would back up that BS claim you're spouting. All we're seeing is a massive decline in hours and nothing else.

I hope with EN Gen 3 they focus on people who are actually streamers and not other stuff. We don't need singers or artists who aren't cranking out at least a video / song a month to show they're actually working and creating content with our money and we sure as shit don't need any actual idol wannabes like Kiara. We need streamer content creators.

>> No.29840235

>>29830760
Damn, they really went into full-on coast mode

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>>29835642
Before our lord and savior Vestman gave us an evening zatsu, we were relying solely on the chicken and odd wigger streams to fill the entire afternoon and early evening. Imagine having EU chubas, right?

>> No.29841030

>>29839001
Mostly stuff like the TTRPG, the podcast and the english lessons with JP is what I had in mind. Yeah, Kiara probably organized more stuff overall but not by a landslide.

>>29839468
From what I understand Ame is more of a tech consultant than an organizer. Might be wrong but I don't have any recollection of any significant collab organized by Ame.

>> No.29841303

>>29841030
Those are all smaller things
Kiara organized AmongUs, MarioKart, NY Karaoke relay etc multiple times
When was the last time we had something like that?

>> No.29841539

>>29841303
Wouldn't call the TTRPG small, it's quite time consuming behind the scenes. Other stuff is smaller but recurring.
But yeah I already agreed that Kiara was responsible for more stuff, the fuck do you want from me? I ain't even a Deadcuck.

>> No.29841814

>>29830760
Gura will stop streaming at this pace

>> No.29842286

During the last members stream Gura explicitly said that she's doing lots of Hololive stuff and that she's aware that because of that her streams have become, I quote, "Spotty at best." She also can't talk about it. But the problem is still here. This whole last year has largely been a bag of nothingness with no streams and no content that would justify it. Sure we got a few covers out of it, but most of that was shilling.

Kiara is an acquired taste but at least she tries, no complaints there. Mori and Ame are traitors and anti-idol, so I despise and don't watch them, and Ina is just there. And even she despises her audience. Myth is fading from view and it's due to bullshit from the talents (Mori, Ame), pure disinterest (Ina) and simple absence (Gura). Cover shit the bed with Gura in particular because they're just banking on her as a shill, Con attendee and merch instead of just letting her stream. Absence doesn't make the heart go fonder, it just makes you forget. I switched entirely to a small corpo because neither Hololive nor Nijisanji have anything going for them anymore. Males legitimately ruined everything just as I predicted, and Cover's idiocy as a company just gave it all the killing blow.

>> No.29842408

>>29833465
Just sad that Council id filled with VTubers that do not stream

>> No.29842427

>>29830993
Where are these projects? We see the fruits of JP's labors in shit like Marine's PV's / concerts, but where the fuck is ANY of EN's projects. There has been no word, glimpse, preview or mention of them.

>> No.29842502

>>29833486
You say that when Twitch streamers do reacting to YouTube videos no. 36446577545 stream on Twitch and still get high views

>> No.29842548

>>29833486
I think they are in a state akin to 2020 pre-en Holo where a bunch of JP members seems be burnt out. Some jp members recovered once EN debuted, others like Ayame and Aqua never recovered though.
Nothing lasts forever I guess.

>> No.29842745

>>29835338
>Dedicated streamers in EN
>When EN members will look at Gura and try to copy her, when it comes to streaming
Yes it is what the EN viewers chose by making Gura the most popular, and now you want to cry about them not strwaming much? RUMAO the absolute state of ENfags

>> No.29842845

>>29833669
>What are people like Kronii doing when they're not streaming?
You don't want the answer to that

>> No.29842894

>>29839468
>Complains about Kiara, even though she is the one that streams the most out of the EN girls
RUMAO

>> No.29842903

>>29842427
They aren't working on any projects. They're just lazy. I don't even know why they still have fans. They're concerned with their IRL stuff and think the vtubing is just a free money machine for them.

>> No.29842919

>>29842427
Kronii supposes to have covers come out, but she didn't like the mixing, so she volunteered to mix it herself.

>> No.29842987

>>29842894
If Kiara joined NijiEN, she would be one of the lowest-streaming vtubers there.

>> No.29843102

>>29830760
Kiara's been traveling, Mori's been busy with work and moving back to America, Ame's been struggling with her usual issues, Ina had to go on a break because she was dying but she just came back, and Gura keeps fucking off for no apparent reason. She the only one without an explanation for streaming less.

>> No.29843127

>>29842987
Yeah but we are talking about HoloEN, so please do not drag in your Twitch-lite shit into the discussion

>> No.29843180

>>29843127
Kiara is not a particularly hard-working person or a particularly hard-working vtuber. In fact by the standard of NijiEN she is extremely lazy. She streams half as much as Selen. Oh and Selen also works on tons of fan projects and stuff, so that's not an excuse.

>> No.29843251

They're streaming less, but more people are watching them than at any point in the last year, so clearly whatever they're doing is working

>> No.29843284

>>29843180
>Compares Kiara to the rest of the HoloEN member
>But muh NijiEN
STFU retard

>> No.29843419

>>29843284
Kiara "works hard" according to the insanely low standard of HoloEN. But that's only because HoloEN is outrageously lazy.

>> No.29843634

>>29842903
They're not wrong. ENfags will happily slurp up any slop they dish out.

>> No.29843677

>>29842745
>the absolute state of ENfags
You're talking to a nousagi. Was just commenting on what EN3 would need to not see a repeat of what is happening with Myth and Council.
EN viewers will start watching whoever is streaming. If they're good, they'll keep watching. If not, they'll watch something else. Doesn't matter what Gura does. What matters is that they fucking stream.

>> No.29843684

>>29843180
>Kiara is not a particularly hard-working person or a particularly hard-working vtuber
>streams 6 days a week on average
>average stream length is 4 to 5 hours
>did dance choreography drills while sick with coof to the point she was throwing up
>flew from Austria to LA just to record her birthday concert
>spent 3 days attempting to record it
>the work she did on the first 2 days ended up being unusable
>had to crunch like a motherfucker and record the entire concert on the 3rd day
>had to dance for about 11 hours
>not a hard working person
kek

>> No.29843706

>>29830760
Gura pls stream More i miss you

>> No.29843886

>>29843684
But she did not put on a game and streamed it for 12 hours straight, so that makes her lazy apparently

>> No.29844088

>>29843102
>Gura keeps fucking
Maybe she cant sit down for long times and stream because her butt is sore Hahaha genki loli desu

>> No.29844131

>>29842286
Please just kys.

>> No.29844992

>>29843102
>Ame's been struggling with her usual issues
Let's see, what "usual issues" exactly? improving herself?

>> No.29846190

>>29842845
Injecting heroine and slutting it up yeehaw

>> No.29846653

>>29844131
I'm not going to pretend maletubers haven't completely destroyed vtubing. Sure they were the final nail in the coffin but they're a pretty big nail. I knew vtubing had lost its soul, purpose and appeal the moment these worthless faggots appeared. It was a sign they're going for the lowest common denominator audience and so vtubing became just another generic bullshit thing in a sea of generic bullshit things.

>> No.29847464

>>29830760
>hours streamed

>> No.29848057

>>29830993
>more projects
The only ones who have "muh projects" excuse are:

Mori, because she continues to shit out her recycled cringe wigger rap songs by the dozen (plus her roommate career, but kayfabe-wise you're not supposed to acknowledge that). I don't care for it because it's >Mori, and cringe wigger rap, but even I can admit that she has a reasonable claim on being "busy" (and still her stream times are not even the worst of the bunch)

Kiara, whose recent stream times were impacted by the prep for her birthday event (dance practice, going to Ame for 3D, etc.), and even with that (and the various mini-vacations she takes to destress) she still tops in stream time output. Sure, like with Mori above, I don't really care because it's just >Kiara and I'm not too interested in her idolshit, but even I can admit her workrate.

Ame, who has done a lot to set up 3D and the VRchat behind the scenes for everyone to play around with. Ideally, that's something that should've been done by Cover staff, if they can't even get them "real" 3D in Japan at least help facilitate the alternatives (but then again, thingscovershoulddo.txt...), so Ame doesn't have to be on background standby and sacrifice her own time everytime someone else wants to do something in 3D and she has to manage/direct, which cuts into her own personal streaming time.

...

Ina has less excuses. Sure, currently it's "muh move", but what's mostly keeping her "busy" and preventing a higher stream output is that she still puts some priority and focus on her roommate's illustrator work. Which, again like with Mori's roommate career, is not really acknowledgeable kayfabe-wise as to why her Hololive-character streams so little. It would be another thing if the illustrating that's keeping her busy was for official Hololive artwork, so it could be acknowledged, but it's not even that (her Hololive-related art output has also rather dried up recently, anyway).

And last is of course le lazy shork. There isn't even really a "muh projects" excuse to explain these pathetic stream times. If she were "sooo busy recording", there better be a full 12+ track album dropping really soon, that justifies this absence, or else it'd expose that cope as empty bullshit.

>> No.29848367

>>29848057
>There isn't even really a "muh projects" excuse
Wasn't she buying a house and moving? I'd assume that also includes building a studio inside said new house.

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