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29852543 No.29852543 [Reply] [Original]

Sorry, Axel

>> No.29852704

>>29852543
He's gonna graduate before the 1st anniversary at this point it seems.

>> No.29852703
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No games permissions?
No competent management?

>> No.29852779

>>29852543
Axel should use his Japanese skill to ask for help from Shinove-sama.

Omega Hate, Shinove Love

>> No.29852791

>>29852543
What the fuck is SRW?

>> No.29852795

>All the games are Japanese
I know the old farts in boardrooms over there hate any sort of exposure, but don't they have enough proof of big corpo vtubers giving said games more sales already?

>> No.29852797

he cant catch a break

>> No.29852816

It's like dez said: if it's fun, the answer is probably No

>> No.29852833

>>29852791
Super Robot Wars

>> No.29852840

>>29852791
Super Robot Wars you absolute daft cunt

>> No.29852845

>>29852791
super robot wars

>> No.29852874

>>29852543
Well to be fair, SRW is like dozens of different IP at once, there's no way you can get permissions easily for that one. DQ is weird though that one should be easy

>> No.29852905

>>29852791
Social Robot Warriors

>> No.29852920

>>29852543
Wait don't the girls already play Mario Party all the time?

>> No.29852982

but let's make another thread shitting on talent freedom, amirite holobros

>> No.29852984

>>29852543
haha it's such a shame you can't play any fun games axel
maybe you could play final fantasy 14 with your pal omega
just kidding
...unless?

>> No.29853011

>>29852982
And the typical tribal faggot appears

>> No.29853023

>>29852920
He broke his internet because he's a daft cunt. Then Magni's audio was fucked.

>> No.29853049

>>29852543
YOU WILL PLAY THE MINECRAFT!
YOU WILL EAT ZE BUGS!

>> No.29853178

>>29852920
IDK about the other two games, but that one wasn't an issue with permission

>> No.29853270

Can anyone list all games that Cover have permissions from? I'm kinda curious right now

>> No.29853296

>>29852703
No outfit?

>> No.29853376
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>L4D2 instead of Mario party
>no DQ3 or JRPG in general
Idk anon, corpo life sounds based

>> No.29853389

>>29852874
They could've at least let him play the OG games

>> No.29853453

>>29852543
Now this is talent freedom.

>> No.29853497
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>>29853049
Minecraft is the ideal game for streamer, it can be made into anything, it's barely a game, more like a background you can keep as Zatsudan material or evolve into literally anything creative or explorating or PVP or PVE or autistic redstone or even music. It's limitless, is the ideal game for collab too, it's just perfect.
Vtubers could honestly strictly play Minecraft ever and nothing else and it wouldn't be an issue at all.

>> No.29853514

The smaller corporations that aren't based in japan have no problem with permissions and play all sorts of games. They have an incredible advantage over the japanese companies

>> No.29853550

>>29852791
Something that would have never gotten permissions if you're in a Jap corpo.

>> No.29853558

>>29853497
minecraft is what vtubers play when they have no permissions

>> No.29853580

>>29853376
this kek

>> No.29853582

>>29853558
And they don't need anything else.

>> No.29853611

>>29853582
cope

>> No.29853615

>>29852543
Get fucked, you should have joined a western corpo

>> No.29853653

>>29853270
Minecraft
Apex/Valorant/overwatch/LoL
L4D2
Nintendo games
Zomboid
Rance series
Persona series (except fifth)
RE games
Utawarerumono
Doom
Elden Ring
Bamco games
Sims
Danganronpa (first chapters only)
Etc

>> No.29853657

>>29852543
he can't play Mario Party because his internet is shit though.

>> No.29853748

>>29852791
super Robot Wars where not even JP corpo can get a permission to stream it

>> No.29853794

>>29852543
A shame he doesn't have any of that good ol' talent freedom and has to rely on the list of daddy manager approved games. Hopes he enjoys the minecraft/apex/valorant only life

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>> No.29853800

>>29852982
Cry about it nigger. Your whores can repent and wears hijab for all I care but they will still be whores

>> No.29853808

>>29853653
>Danganronpa (first chapters only)
thats dumb as shit.

>> No.29853834

>>29853796
fucking rent free

>> No.29853838

>>29852840
be nice

>> No.29853858

>>29853834
literally arguing for minecraft spam: >>29853497

>> No.29853869

>>29852795
They don't want money from dirty gaijins.

>> No.29853915

>>29853497
Are you a zoomer?

>> No.29853934

>>29853796
honestly a good post and im a sapling

>> No.29853943
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>>29853653
>Persona series (except fifth)
>Danganronpa (first chapters only)

>> No.29853974

>>29853653
>Rance series
I'm listening

>> No.29853977

>>29853270
I think they can play Sonic? Sonic the hedgehog? You know? Sonic

>> No.29854008

>>29853808
>>29853943
Rance series should be an instant giveaway anonchama.....

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>> No.29854074

>>29853550
>>29853748
The fact that an SRW game got a localization at all is a miracle in it of itself. I can't imagine what kind of hell it is to try and get permissions for it

>> No.29854091

>>29853653
>Rance series
I'm listening.

>> No.29854136

>>29853653
>Rance
Wait a fucking minute

>> No.29854173

>>29853497
>Zoomer posting

>> No.29854229

>>29853514
>>29853453
They are permitted to stream anything they want as long as they get written permission from the publishers. Some publishers don't reply to these requests since they allow anyone to make content on their games without asking. This is the case for Axel, Mori, and all other Holos. Since they still require written permission that is specifically for their channel, they cannot stream it. It makes sense, when the company doesn't have licenses, there's always the possibility to get sued if a streamer fucks something up in the stream while playing the game. This is legal protection even if it seems too extreme. Smaller corpos don't have this problem because they rely on universal permissions and more often than not, don't have the resources to work with publishers and developers.

>> No.29854234

>>29853974
>>29854091
>>29854136
https://youtu.be/ATNsVcYToWo
There's a streamer version

>> No.29854249

>>29852543
>No JRPG
>No Japanese games
This is why I'll never make it as a holostar. I fucking hate w*stern games, FOTM games, w*stern indies, and i especially hate fucking minecraft.

>> No.29854269

This whole permissions thing sucks the fun out completely. You can tell Axel had no idea how bad it would be.

>> No.29854317

>>29853653
>Rance
Ayo wtf?

>> No.29854325

>>29852543
stop being a disingenuous faggot. He can't play Mario Party because he had problems.

>> No.29854357

>>29854234
>Rance
>no H content
That's like Jesus without the miracles.

>> No.29854382

Axel is on the verge of tears rn he needs a nursing handjob who's gonna volunteer

>> No.29854443

>>29854249
If you're good at variety content or literally anything else you wouldn't have to touch a single game at all.

>> No.29854495

>>29852543
OH BOY I SURE DO LOVE SEEING THE SAME 100 GAMES ALL DAY EVERYDAY IN EVERY HOLOPRO STREAM

>> No.29854506
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>>29854234
Show me ONE Hololive chuuba actually streaming Rance and I will oshi them so hard Orca will seem sane in comparison. Literally the only vtuber I've seen stream Rance was Melody and she was complete ass at it

>> No.29854605

>>29854249
This. So many shitty western games with their ugly designs.

>> No.29854745

>>29853550
wouldnt it be easier to play the OG ones?
at least they are not copyright hell

>> No.29854758

Woah, was he really going to play some SRW? that is really based, as a mechafag it made me happy, but yeah SRW has a shit ton of licenses, no wonder no one can play it

>> No.29854775

>>29852779
This. Omega is a lazy faggots. Shinove would have naked dogeza to game dev if it meant his boys could play the game they want

>> No.29854809

>>29852703
Omega is mostly about the debuts and graduations, the permissions he leaves up to the talents.

>> No.29854980

>>29853796
This whole list is EN garbage but then lists JP members as proof of hypocrisy. Are you actually retarded? Of course you are, you only watch EN.

>> No.29855064

>>29852543
blame the nigger Omegatranny. In Holo JP everybody can play DQ games without having any issues.

>> No.29855316

>>29852982
Not like he didn't know how things were before joining. You retards really need to stop pretending that the talents are kidnapped off of the street and forced to work as vtubers. This is a job and they'll do what their employer tells them to. Like any other fucking job. Grow up, you fucking manlets.

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>>29852543
Regarding this subject: Is it really the corpo's fault when modern game companies are sassy little bitches that demands you to follow their own rules and they dictate what vidya permissions they'll hand over to your talents?

>>29852982
rent free

>> No.29855469

>>29855064
Translated games are a different beast of permissions anon. You also need explicit permission from the distributors and the localizers. Not to mention if it has a dubbed voice, then you have to get permission from the appropriate right holders. If any one of these had cease to function or are just dead, then the whole thing fall through

>> No.29855500

>>29855442
Yes it's the corpos fault for not saying FUCK THE RULES and letting their talents stream whatever they want.

>> No.29855537

>>29854506
I know a Japanese streamers who streamed DohnaDohna while skipping the H.
So if someone really wanted and they got permission, maybe Alicesoft games can be streamed.

>> No.29855596

>>29854074
>>29854229
>According to Yagoo and Harada, the current state of Permissions is that the publisher has to ask the IP creator for their permission if the publishing contract doesn't delegate streaming rights distributions to the publisher. So basically anything older than 2018, and more realistically anything older than 2021
>Because of this, Yagoo has to personally negotiate permissions for some games.
It would not surprise me if Cover were outright denying SRW permissions because of how much bullshit would be involved in getting it. Having to negotiate with 3 separate publishers is bad enough. Now throw in having to contact EVERY MECHA IP HOLDER IN THE PAST 30 YEARS.
Absolutely no fucking way.

>> No.29856145

Holy shit he was gonna play DQ3? I need tto finally try these tempus boys, that's like my fave RPG

>> No.29856144

>>29852543
Wait Axel was going to stream SRW?

>> No.29856200

Only HoloJP has blanket Square Enix permissions so HoloEN has to ask for individual Square Enix games a bit beforehand to get permissions like Mori asking for Live a Live.

>> No.29856211

>>29856144
He mentioned that he would like to stream in the the future in one of his streams

>> No.29856352

>>29855596
Wait I thought with going with Bamco/Banpresto would have theme also get the permissions since they had all the phone numbers and shit.

>> No.29856483

>>29852703
>No competent management?
Come on selen shitter "your" management even worse, because they never give a fuck about talents.

>> No.29856617

>>29852795
Nip businessmen hate money

>> No.29856661

>>29852791
Social Rustice Warrior

>> No.29856721

>>29853796
Kek, it's unironically true. I hate my fellow holobros sometimes.

>> No.29856772

>>29853796
collab beggars should collab with a noose and stream it.

>> No.29856800

>>29856352
Bamco would probably have most of the contact information, but it might be out of date, or people may just not respond, or Bamco might just say "this isn't really our problem; ask them yourself". They also may not be in a position to share that contact info with Cover so that Cover can go personally ask for permissions, so then you have a scenario where Cover can't even find the people they need to ask.
It's a really fucking retarded system.

>> No.29856841

>>29852791
Scarlet Rhapsody Weather

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>>29853796
so true!

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>>29852874
I thought permissions were company wide, they aren't? They're streamer specific? Truthfully I don't know the process and who is affected by permissions.

>> No.29857116

>>29854249
He just played Xenoblade 3 retard. You have several other holos playing JRPGs and japanese games. Watame and Subaru were playing FFs, Suisei and Kiara with Tales of, and a billion Monster Hunter streams.

>> No.29857201

>>29857116
>FOTM game

>> No.29857273

>>29857201
the other games mentioned aren't new

>> No.29857317

>Dragon Quest 3
Do you really need permissions even for old games and other retro jank? How come doog streams them all the time? I thought it was something for new releases only.

>> No.29857393

>>29857317
Prease undestando, only JP can get permissions. ENfilth must fend for themselves.

>> No.29857575

Sorry Axel please understand I need to write fan fiction lore for the next EN wave I dont have time to sit on the phone and try to get permissions for games.

>> No.29857616

>>29855500
Are you retarded or just pretending right now?

>> No.29857639

>>29857317
DQ3 has an hd-2d remaster in the works.

>> No.29857977

>>29852982
both suck, but I find whore freedom worse

>> No.29858264

>>29852543
SRW was a pipe dream, but there is no reason any of the ENs should be denied Squeenix perms.

>> No.29858354

>>29857116
True. Luna's MonHun autism is as famous as Moona's MC autism

>> No.29858432

>>29853657
They shouldve asked about his internet on the holo interviews... of course his internet sucks, he is in fucknothing Australia

>> No.29858519

>>29854745
Pretty much. You still get to have Sanger zonvolt the sword that cleaves evil, but it’s not really the same.
I wanna hear guy scream out goldion crusher and hikari ni nare.

>> No.29858586

>>29852840
I love the series but it is a niche one.

>> No.29858873

Why don't Cover just register a seperate overseas company solely to avoid the ridiculous JOP permissions autism?

>> No.29858990

>>29852791
Shishiro Raped Watame

>> No.29858991

>>29858873
Japanese love their nation. Not as much as the brainwash autism from Bugland but still.

>> No.29859051

>>29852543
join vshojo if you wanna play games

>> No.29859188

>>29857104
The short answer is kinda depends on what phase the moon is, Jupiter aligns with Mars, and I’d it’s the dawning of the age of Aquarius.
The long answer it fucking depends on a lot of things. Cover merged all of its talent stuff under one label (Hololive Productions) for this reason. So when they go out initially seeking permissions it’s for everyone even if it’s the en branch doing it. The problem is that the company that hold the rights don’t have to play ball. They can specify that only one branch can get, one streamer can get, how long and how far they can play.
A few examples, the Pokemon company is notorious for having a timer on when the permissions expires. It’s why no one is playing arcesus or sinnoh anymore and why they were all playing at once and slightly rushing.
Anyone can play the MM/X/Z/ZX games but they can’t show the ending cutscenes or credits (at least originally I know Oga said that when he played MMX)
Ubisoft only let Korone play Valhalla and under conditions she couldn’t point out bugs and had to talk good about the game, yes it’s sponsored but still it was part of the perms.
Spikechunsoft will only let chapter 1 of its games be streamed.

>> No.29859451

The fact that SRW happens is already a miracle in itself.

It will need some divine intervention for any company to get the perm for it.

>> No.29859509

>>29856352
Anon you need to look into what Nintendo And Bandai Nampo had to do just to get Project X-zone translated. They did it which was amazing but they lost Jam Projects ROCKS and a song that was created for the game itself.
Hell Sakurai talks about how much a pain Ultimate was to get for character stuff

>> No.29859609

>>29852779
Reminder EN management failed to get Mori Persona permissions, but Shinove got them for Holostars.

>> No.29859725

>>29859188
Not all of them. Just Danganronpa. 999 series is okay and same for Ai the Sominum Files. They also have Ace Attorney permissions but they can't show animated cutscenes or the final scene of the case.

>> No.29860278

>>29852543
>DQ which JP girls have played in the past
>Mario Party which practically everybody have played at least once
Those two surprise me. Getting streaming permission for SRW takes more luck than winning the lottery.

>> No.29860468

>>29859609
more like more made an ass of herself and shinove had to save the day

>> No.29860570

>>29860278
Cover is probably stupid and doesn't get blanket permissions for all their talents.

>> No.29860632

>>29860278
Mario Party didn't work out because of australian net + ingame audio problems, not because of permission

>> No.29860786

>>29859609
japanese permissions are different to english permissions, it's retarded how even if the developer says it's okay to play their game the guys that did the translation can cockblock you

>> No.29860892

i don't really pay attention to cover much but is this process even such a big deal for other corpos? it's so bizarre to me to think they could get sued or something for playing a fucking video game with an audience

>> No.29861008

>>29859725
Ah near! I honestly forgot the first two where chunsoft games! Also that actually worse then what they did with mm. I can get it if it was a new game but…

>> No.29861124

>>29852543
>no SRW
No shit, there's a reason the only way we get it in English is from the SEA release.

>> No.29861133

>>29860892
Its about making money off it. Even if mems, ads, or super chats are turned off you can still get new viewers which will make you future money

>> No.29861269

>>29860570
No their modus operandai is always go for blanket when they can. Ffxiv is blanket and most of EN at the time they got it last year didn’t really play JRPGs except ina

>> No.29861348

>>29860278
Mario Party have nothing to do with permissions, it was the aussie's internet.

>> No.29861367

>>29860892
Realistically any company could sue another for playing their games without permission. It's just that no one does. Cover is overly paranoid because of stuff that has happened in the past.

>> No.29861401

>>29860892
Other Japanese corpos can be treated in the exact same way as Cover. The difference is Cover shit themselves at the thought of being bonked again. Especially after what happened before. So much so that they now fax indie devs for permission to play the most obscure games (even though they obviously won't give a shit and will welcome it).

>> No.29861500

>>29852703
Yeah I remember when nijistaff was so shit Selen had to get permissions for Payday 2 herself

>> No.29861509

>>29861401
>fax indie devs for permission
Seriously? I frequently see these devs on Kaela's stream and they even make fanarts for her

>> No.29861539

>>29856841
This would be sick

>> No.29861605

>>29859188
i didn't watch krony play rockman x, did she really fucking skip the ending and credits??

>> No.29861889

>>29861605
I can’t remember. I believe she did. I know for a fact Oga did and talked about how it was prt of the permissions.

>> No.29862027

>>29861509
They went to Kan to see if Holocure was fine when it turned out it wasn’t a pure clone of Vampire Survivor

>> No.29862162

>>29861889
i firebomb capcom hq for being scumfuck retards all of their new rockman collections the last few years are shit too

>> No.29862469

>>29852543
How are the Stars so stupid? Or is he pity-baiting?

>> No.29862716

>>29862469
honestly if a dumbass publisher stopped me from playing their 20 year old games on live stream i would make sure everyone knew when it happened too. a company blocking streaming perms is basically a red flag to remember for later when you have to decide whether or not to buy a game or pirate it instead

>> No.29862743

>>29852543
Does this also apply to Niji?
Or is it only Holo having licensing issues?

>> No.29862909

>>29859188
I dont think its the publisher. Nijisanji can play any pokemon game it wants, even the gba or DS ones.
I think its probably a fee to have them for a certain amount of time or for good and Holo just payed for a month or two.

>> No.29863177

>>29862743
Not as much as holo apparently but yeah, it also applies to them. It a problem for all japanese vtuber companies.

>> No.29863255

>>29862743
Niji seems to get global perms, either that or they negotiate differently.

>> No.29863329

>>29852543
he will need to learn not to hype up games until permissions are confirmed

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>>29859188
almost all corpos can technically play Pokemon anytime they want if they like (this is why some ranculous girls still play Arceus sometimes, and Leos also played Emerald once). the limited time autism is actually limited to Hololive only because they get their permission through Niconico as a part of some special campaign to shill pokemon on that site (this is why Hololive does Pokemon tourneys at Niconico which usually happens at the end of their permission duration), while every other corpo get theirs directly from Nintendo.

>> No.29863423

>>29862743
only holo has issues because companies genuinely don't want to work with them
they're that fucking bad

>> No.29863474

>>29863177
>>29863255
If they are both Japanese, how does one get more leeway? How does that work?

>> No.29863514

>>29852703
>165 KB JPGNo games permissions?
NijiEN literally doesn't have Elden Ring bamco permissions lmao

>> No.29863532

>>29863423
But why? What did Holo do?
If they are succesful with views, it benefits the gaming company.

>> No.29863540

>>29863474
Hololive's reputation is trash in Japan because they have too many yabs.

>> No.29863603

>>29863514
Luca and Vox have played ER...

>> No.29863619

>>29862716
Maybe they just don't want their games associated with fags

>> No.29863656

>>29863619
i mean they let you buy them so that can't be it

>> No.29863657

>>29863474
My theory is money.
Like I said in my previous post, Nijisanji can play pokemon whenever they want, Holo has a time limit. So I assume Nijisanji just pays way more money for perms.

>> No.29863668

>>29863540
Besides the Taiwan incident, and maybe even the Rushia one, is there anything else?

>> No.29863673

>>29863532
They're unprofessional

>> No.29863713

>>29863514
https://youtu.be/1EJZva4rU-Y
Retard.

>> No.29863714

>>29863532
Anon...

>> No.29863730

>>29863474
case in point: Konami
some companies also doesn't like working with Hololive because of that chink stigma they carry. on Konami's case, one rrat i usually hear about them is that they're not giving Hololive perms as a grudge for that one MGS stream by Pekora which was the most superchatted stream of its time. sometimes Cover themselves block their talents from playing games, like that dirty word dice game

>> No.29863827

>>29863714
Im new to vtubing :( im sowwy

>> No.29863848

>>29857104
The game's dev basically can give out permissions on whatever terms they want. Streamer specific, branch specific, or sometimes they can even be timed. Its really fucking dumb.

>> No.29863860

>>29863668
Tons. If we ignore the long list of copyright infringement before Mio got almost fired for being caught, after that we've had holos insulting low wage workers (Lamy), insulting doujin culture (Marine and Miko)

>> No.29863924

>>29863848
HoloEN and ID can't play Idolmaster games because they were never localized for the foreign audience, for example.

>> No.29863932

>>29863730
>holding a grudge for that one MGS stream
huh, what? why would they be mad that one of their games was being streamed and it happened to be the most superchatted stream?? Isnt that like a good thing?

>> No.29863942

>>29863860
fumino tamaki ring any bells, anon?

>> No.29863946

>>29863860
>insulting fujo (Marine and Miko)
Fixed

>> No.29863977

>>29863860
>insulting doujin culture (Marine and Miko)
Was that when they put a yaoi doujin in the fridge? I know they did but don't know the context.

>> No.29863984

I fucking hate perms but its possible Cover has limited perms on stuff due to the holocaust in the past, Cover knew they needed perms but they tried to fly under the radar till they got fucked.

>> No.29863998

>>29863860
>If we ignore the long list of copyright infringement before Mio got almost fired for being caught
exblain pls

>> No.29864086

>>29863932
because konami thinks they're being robbed of revenue when those superchat money could had been given to them instead. you won't believe how jap companies tend to hold grudges against someone else, even for the pettiest of things.

>> No.29864120

>>29863998
Mio had like, half the VoDs in her channel abruptly taken down due to copyright strikes. This was before permission autism really settled in and was probably the main reason for it.

>> No.29864138

>>29863998
Holo girls used to stream all kinds of shit because they never got permissions for any of it

>> No.29864149

Remember when Haachama played Yandere Simulator and Yanderedev showed up?

>> No.29864156

>>29863942
She hasn't done anything wrong.

>>29863946
>>insulting fujo
Marine is fujo

>>29863977
Yeah

>> No.29864205

>>29863395
Ooooh that makes more sense. Thanks kind misty anon.

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>>29852982
I mean....vshitshow is bad.

Hololive management is also bad.

You want good streams with talent not getting managed heavy handed but still get tard wrangled when needed? Go watch fishman's sad girls.

>> No.29864262

>>29864120
Well that was cause Mio was the canary in the coal mine, she got completely fucked due to her playing ghost trick on a modded DS.

>> No.29864269

>>29864086
You need only look into how Nintendo was losing its shit at rental companies and how sega japan/usa basically worked to sabotage the other.
Konami also would rather have pachinko money than develop new games.
Capcom is too afraid to number monster hunter games because they dont want people to find out they're milking the series.
Then you have gamefreak being outed for intentially keeping pokemon out of games because they want people to buy the newer games and they want to hold pokemon hostage.

>> No.29864308

>>29864086
>those superchats could have been given to them
this is literally retarded, do they even know how superchats work?

>> No.29864412

>>29864120
>>29864138
kek thats pretty funny

>> No.29864452

>>29863984
They're newfags, they don't remember anything that happened before this year, they're not gonna remember something from a few years ago

>> No.29864499

>>29864254
Outside Lumi and Tenma the PC girls really don't use the fact that they could stream virtually any game. They mostly stream the same tired streamer bait games that everyone else is doing.

>> No.29864729

>>29864254
But then you would be watching actual garbage.

>> No.29864758

>>29853653
>Rance series
No Holos would play it....
The only Holo that ever play eroge on stream was Miko and that was a long time ago

>> No.29864759

>>29863998
Basically before they started exploding in popularity, they were streaming whatever the fuck they wanted without asking for any permission.
Then Capcom sent a double Cease and Desist order to Mio's in the form of a double Copyright Strike on her youtube channel. For reference Three strikes in a row means your account get permanently deleted by Youtube. She got a 2 month suspension and they basically privated all archives of all talents in a hurry to sort the situation. Since then they started asking for permission for everything, and they unprivated archives when they got permission for older stuff too. Some old cover were unprivated a few month ago for example.

Also the other yabs would have been nothinburger if some idiots didn't raise a fuss like fucking always. (for the doujin one, it was the author's doujin)

>> No.29864855

>>29864269
There was some fucking stupid shit about decision to start making DMC4(?). Numerfaggotry that would put # to shame.

>> No.29864885

>>29864759
It was so much worse than that for some Holo's, Subaru's manager deleted EVERYTHING.

>> No.29864913

>>29852779
>>29859609
>>29854775
Shinove has tried for Oga before but couldn't get it

>> No.29865010

>>29864759
Nijis also didn't ask for permission before the Holocaust. Just happened that Mio was first and after that all JP companies went into permission frenzy

>> No.29865081

>>29864885
I think Miko was the one who took the worst hit. She lost like 90% of her content.

>> No.29865088

>>29865010
False, niji had terrible perms which led a talent graduating, then coming back when they fixed their shit.

>> No.29865127

>>29852543
Why the fuck are these companies so limited with what they’re allowed to play

>> No.29865245

>>29865127
It's a Japanese thing.

>> No.29865246

>>29864855
Found it
>>/vt/thread/S11029370#p11030833

>> No.29865257

>>29864913
It is literally the impossible series to get

>> No.29865338

>>29865088
That was Nintendo.
Even Holos before 2020 wouldn't touch games from that company without permissions

>> No.29865409

>>29864759
>the doujin one
exblain pls

>> No.29865442

>>29865127
Basically they're trying to avoid lawsuits and copyright strikes.

>> No.29865551

>>29865338
No Nijisanji had and needed perms from the start, Anycolor is part of sony music, they're not gonna fuck with that.

>> No.29865662

>>29865551
Sasaki Saku left (for a moment) specifically because she couldn't play Nintendo games

>> No.29865722

>>29865662
I know that, I'm just saying that claiming that Niji livers didn't get permissions is categorically false.

>> No.29865724

>>29852703
watch streams retard

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>>29853915
>>29854173
Not zoomer far from it, but I've played the game since the classic version on browser 13 years ago, then bought the alpha and set up a multi-player server with a few friends (when it was completely broken and dropping your tools would repair them and there were no mobs) and I've played ever since without stopping and made a few mods for myself.

Recently I built a giant polka circus with a redstone system underneath to make light shows and play her superchat song in rhythm with it https://files.catbox.moe/ibacms.mp4
Circus pic rel with a medieval village I made before and a tree from the old /hlgg/ server

The game has just so many aspects to it I don't think I will ever get bored of playing or watching it.

>> No.29865934

>>29865827
What type of autism is this

>> No.29865936

>>29865409
I don't remember that one that well. Miko (I think ?) and Marine were in an off collab and as a prank, one hid a doujin in the fridge for the other to find. They talked about it and kinda made fun of it ? It got identified from the content by viewers and then doujin author went into a frenzy about his "work" (a fucking trashy porn doujin for fujo ffs) was disrespected and the like.
Instead, of, you know, acting like a normal person.

While I'm at it, there was a whole thing about Mizuryu Kei too. Dude (a prominent porn author btw) was supposed to make an official manga about Marine. Then he slammed the door screaming on twitter that Cover was bad. The hilarious part is that the JP community just asked what he fucked up this time, and his Chink community first tried to defend him before they found out he was racist toward China too KEK.

>> No.29865938

>>29865827
>https://files.catbox.moe/ibacms.mp4
Alright that's pretty cool

>> No.29865974

>>29865827
your autistic

>> No.29866056

>>29852543
And that's how Vshonen starts.

>> No.29866266

>>29864254
The market for an anime girl playing Kingdom Hearts, one of the biggest weeb bait games of all time, is sky high, but only 10ma has done it, and she only played KH1. I'm not even sure she finished it.

>> No.29866461

>>29852543
How the fuck does a single independant poor person have MORE right than a multimillion dollar company??

>> No.29866499

>>29865827
Where's the fkn song

>> No.29866526

>>29865338
>Even Holos before 2020 wouldn't touch games from that company without permissions
that's wrong, you can see Sora playing Nintendo games going all the way back to 2018. no one questioned it until Nintendo published the list of companies with streaming permissions and people noticed Cover wasn't there

>> No.29866878

>>29865936
just to add on jap creators being menhera, the dev of the dirty word game Nkodice (basically a yahtzee, except the dice spell Japanese dirty words like "manko") had an autistic fit when Oga wrote a fighting game based on it because Cover doesn't want them playing that game due to its vulgarity. Oga was suspended for a week for that and it effectively killed the game's popularity overnight.

>> No.29866892

>>29864254
Being a Canadian-based agency, they should use that to their advantage (as far as game perms are concerned)

The only concern would be the English dub......since I think the voice actors are part of a union or something (so I guess you would have to coordinate with them as well???)

>> No.29866897

Question, are talents from corpos allowed to stream using emulators?

>> No.29866919

>>29852543
so this is what it looks like when someone who actually likes video games joins hololive English... guess he'll have to be like korone and beg

>> No.29867026

>>29866892
The west has fair use laws so there is no permission autism or at least its severely diminished.

>> No.29867040

>>29864254
which corpo is that?

>> No.29867080

>>29866897
Only if they're official emulators, like the switch snes service.

>> No.29867088

>>29865936
he wasn't just racist he was a rape of naking denier lmao.

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>>29867040
PhaseConnect

>> No.29867374

>>29866266
I really don't understand it. It feels like the majority of girls hired by these companies don't really like video games which is weird since most of their content is playing video games.

>> No.29867429

>>29867374
If you mean Hololive specifically, a big chunk of their early content was just general zatsudans.

>> No.29867494

>>29867429
I mean all vtuber companies.

>> No.29867717

>>29867175
Are their stocks going up?

>> No.29867727

>>29867494
Oh well in that cause, its just gender norms man. Girls don't really play games and women are the overwhelming amount of vtubers, its why they're so terrible at everything, for many of them this is the first time ever touching a controller.
Its also why games like Minecraft are so strong, they have non particular skill ceiling and gathering and building shit can be done by anyone.

>> No.29867752

Watching vtubers has made me hate japan's super autism, over stuff like this.

>> No.29867856

>>29867752
it has made me hate the East's obsession with idols being virginal, pure, never talk to males, etc, and made me hate China in general

>> No.29867944

>>29867374
Tenma actually loves KH, KH1 in particular is her favorite PS2 game, so if she didn't finish the game then the Mouse likely told her to stop.

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>>29867717
Yes, their Gen2 went down very well.

>> No.29868390

>>29867727
But the thing is, in the indie sphere there are plenty of girls that have interesting game choices.

>> No.29868963

>>29868390
>plenty of girls
>interesting game choices
Pick one

>> No.29868984

>>29867955
My boyfriend, oh shit...

>> No.29869205

>>29852543
Poor guy, every interesting idea he has come with, gets blocked or something happens that makes him unable to.

>> No.29869216

>>29868963
I mean, just look at the /vrt/ thread

>> No.29869464

>>29853653
Not only doom, all of Bethesda's game and published games but that one is case-by-case, they have to ask permissions everytime they want to play a Bathesda game.

Add Valve to that list, it's the only consistent developer who granted un-ending permissions for their games. (I don't think HL Alyx is in that list, or they just don't want to play it).

>> No.29870117

>>29852543
>That's the corpo life
Reminder it also comes with like 200.000 subs free of charge and effort because of the brand

>> No.29870239

>>29855469
then it has to applied to western games Holo JP members play. they play a bunch of the latest western indie games too. ofc without having any issues with them. its all about Omegatranny.

>> No.29870293

>>29869216
Sure but that's a microscopic fraction of the whole indie sphere. Clearly not enough to call it "plenty"

>> No.29870354

>>29855596
so they're q bunch of lazy cunts not willing to do the work?
why do streamers give 50% cut to those cunts again?

>> No.29871568

>>29866056
>Not Dshonen

>> No.29871918

>>29853796
>Akirose
>Sex
am I missing out on something or...

>> No.29872341

and then you are surprised everyone ends up just playing Apex all day everyday

>> No.29872391

Game permissions aren't even the worst part, it's karaoke permissions.

>> No.29872446

>>29870354
They don’t. No one knows the actual cut. Also you have no idea what business negotiations are like

>> No.29872549

>>29852543
This is pathetic

>> No.29872630

>>29870354
I don't think you know how many different IP creators/holders are involved in SRW.

>> No.29872654

>>29867955
She still end up being entertaining so far despite her PL's yab.

>> No.29872866

>>29872446
>>29872630
>contact IP holder reps
>introduce yourself
>hey we wanna play your game onscreen. Ever heard of "stramers"? We manage a bunch of them. We believe it's beneficial for your brand for these and those reasons"
WOW SUPER HARD GUYS I NEEDED A HARVARD PHD BUSINESS DEGREE TO SOLVE THIS

>> No.29872901

>>29862743
It does happen to Niji, though they have a wider variety of game perms there's cases where the EN branch is unable to play games JP branch can play, just like Hololive. Beyond just game perms their music perms are pretty fickle too. For example Pomu recently said she can't sing Macross songs anymore because their permissions changed, which really sucks since Ikenai Borderline is her favorite song.

What often seems to happen is game publishers only give streaming permission on a temporary basis, their perms can sometimes expire or be outdated. Probably also why so many vtubers all stream flavor of the month games and then all collectively drop the game after a few weeks.

>> No.29872976

>>29872866
>I don't think so
Now what, fishbrain

>> No.29873025

>>29872866
>I want a cut of your revenue
Now what, Mr. Businessman

>> No.29873055

>>29852703
omega is genuinely one of the worst managers ive seen. he has to be yagoo's retarded son or some sort of key investor, it makes no sense otherwise.

>> No.29873179

>>29853796
>majority of Holofans are EOPs so some will agree with this
USA and SEA were a mistake

>> No.29873261

Intellectual property laws are evil and should be abolished.

>> No.29873360

>>29873261
>I should be able to profit off of somebody else's work without offering any compensation to them.
How about you eat shit and die, scum?

>> No.29873422

>>29856617
It's more that most Japanese businesses don't consider foreign sales to be important. Unless they are explicitly an exporter.
They're a bonus but not something to focus on.

So game devs, producers, food producers and a bunch of cultural companies are just completely uninterested in foreigners in any capacity.

>> No.29873427

>>29853653
IRyS mentioned they don't have permissions for Rsident Evil 4, wonder what's up with that

>> No.29873453

>>29873427
Didn't Korone play it?

>> No.29873644

>>29852543
I don't know how anyone in their right mind would have believed it was possible to get SRW perms. It's a licensing lovecraftian horror that really only owes its continued existence to advertise and sell kits since the whole mecha genre thrives on kit sales. No way is any company going to get proper streaming perms for it

>> No.29873712

>>29873427
>>29873453
When Selen played Resident Evil 4 she said they don't have permissions for English voice acting because of the voice actors union not giving licensing for their work. She had to private her first stream of it and then play it again in Japanese iirc.
Holos may have been told something slightly different but it's probably the same reason since JP's can play it but EN's cannot.

>> No.29873726

>>29873453
you're right. but she did say she wasn't sure if she was allowed to play it, idk how permissions work, do they expire?

>> No.29873801

>>29873726
They can.
It depends on what terms the company sets out

>> No.29874040

Wonder if the RE4 Remake will be a JP voices only game like Village or English-okay like RE2 Remake

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>>29866499

https://litter.catbox.moe/4qyzbm.mp4 during preparations
couldn't find recording of it built under so bonus noteblocks I built of marine's Ahoy https://litter.catbox.moe/q7ecce.mp4 and ina's bgm https://litter.catbox.moe/jqv42n.mp4

>> No.29874241

>>29874091
I miss hearing Polka superchat song...

>> No.29874254

>>29852543
>Not allowed to play DQ and Mario party
Dude, that shouldn't be a problem, JP girls played a lot these games.

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>>29874091

>> No.29874509

>>29874254
Its half a bait image. I know JPs can play most DQs I think... might be some EN perms thing. Axel internet shat the bed so no MP lol.

>> No.29874541

>>29874254
Mario Party was fucked because Axel's shit Aussie connection and Magni's audio was fucked up for some reason (he was the pov). As far as DQ, the JP mems seem to have carte blanche for Square Enix games while the EN members get to kick rocks.

>> No.29874576

>>29852543
Hololive plays Dragon Quest all the time though. Why the fuck can't he play it?

>> No.29874808

>>29874254
Mario Party was technical issues and DQ is apparently one of those games you need to ask permissions for for each individual stream. So it was probably not feasible to get it in time.

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29875194

>>29853934
>honestly a good post and im a fatling.
Ready-made joke

>> No.29875321

>>29852543
He's gonna get really bored and demotivated when he realizes he needs to get into minecraft meta to be relevant.

>> No.29875381

>>29853796
To be fair, this is a holoEN exclusive problem. Fuck EN.

>> No.29875475

>>29852543
>SRW
Did he actually fucking try for SRW 30? That's pretty based even if it was never going to happen.

>> No.29875959

>>29859188
>A few examples, the Pokemon company is notorious for having a timer on when the permissions expires. It’s why no one is playing arcesus or sinnoh anymore and why they were all playing at once and slightly rushing.
That's literally just Hololive, and nobody else. Nijisanji had one of their debuts playing Pokemon X on a modded 3DS with no issues. Meanwhile, Regis and Magni had to reschedule a stream, because apparently Hololive is so fucking assbackwards that they don't have "opening Pokemon Cards" permissions.

>> No.29876019

>>29874576
Omegatranny

>> No.29876066

This is part of the reason I just don't watch them now. I don't want to see the light in their eyes slowly fade as they realise they're now bound to autistic permission constraints, as they slowly get whittled down into walking on eggshells and sounding like they're being held hostage like the girls do. It's really sad. Pre April 2020 Hololive was the best

>> No.29876081

>>29872866
and then they say "no fuck off that's our copyright" or give you retarded conditions / force you to only play new product for sale and only as a brief advertising demonstration and not actually playing or enjoying a game to its end and you're SOL

>> No.29876116

>>29857116
>Watame and Subaru were playing FFs
Only JP is allowed to play those. EN can't play any FF game except 14.

>> No.29876197

>>29873360
i'm surprised you could still type out that post while gargling this much corpo cock.

>> No.29876383

>>29875475
Yeah, I do commend the effort, but he probably shouldn't have said anything or had any sort of expectation that he'd get those perms. The OG series might be somewhat feasible, but I think those are on portables, and it's more difficult to stream legitimately from a portable console

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29876390

>>29857317
Doog streams them all the time because she threatens to do the torture stream if her manager doesn't get the permissions for retro shit.

>> No.29876431

>ask permission to shill a game
After peewiediepie shilled minecraft into worldwide popularity companies should be sucking off tubers to play their shit. Fuck, the relatively small youtuber Sseth got Starsector devs to SELL OUT of keys for their game the day he posted his review.

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>>29867175
Is that Burrito?

>> No.29876693

>>29876390
I think Korone also has something of a name presence among the nip game devs.
Remember she just got her official SEGA costume?
They know about her and when Cover goes "hey Korone wants to play this" they go "Ahhh yes yubi yubi doggo. You have permission"

>> No.29876733

>>29876431
Please understand, Japanese Copyright Law is REALLY fucked sideways and entangled in a lot of archaic song and dance, and it's basically been left up to the corporations themselves to shape the procedures on a case-by-case basis. This is not likely to change in the forseeable future.

>> No.29876742

>>29853653
>Utawarerumono
Kek, you're trolling

>> No.29877324

>>29876431
Minecraft it's a sleeper agent game, you spent YEARS off the minegrind but then someone says "hey, let's play a bit" then you end up sinking months non-stop in the block game until you get back to your senses and uninstall it, then the cycle repeats.

>> No.29877769

I think the real kicker is that management has to give the okay for schedules. Somebody in management looked over his schedule, didn't see any issues with it, gave him the okay, let him share that schedule with the public and THEN told him "oh wait, you're not JP, only JP is allowed to play that game".

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>>29853653
>rance series

>> No.29878620

>>29852543
Mario Party got shelved because of shitty internet, the other 2 are valid points

>> No.29878808

>>29872976
>>29873025
>>29876081
You talk it out, mr lazy ass
put in the hours
Do the work
No excuses, you fags called me out for not knowing "business" but your simplistic autistic defeatist argumentation exposes you lot as basement dwellers with zero office or life experience

>> No.29878858

>>29877769
holy shit that kind of crap is so easy to solve with software
come on japan

>> No.29879060

>>29878468
You didn't see Miko's 12 hour Ranceathon? She's probably the most likely holo to play it other than Marine

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29879088

>It's more complicated than just asking
>JUST WALK UP TO THEM, LOOK THEM IN THE EYE, AND GIVE THEM A FIRM HANDSHAKE
>THEN THEY'LL GIVE YOU PERMISSIONS
>Okay, what if one of these simple things happens that complicates your given scenario
>NO EXCUSES YOU AUTISTIC DEFEATISTS
/vt/ really needs to step up its troll game tbdesu.

>> No.29879346

>>29852982
Go suck on some fat cock, Tatsunocuck.

>> No.29879569

>>29866526
>Buy a game
>You don't own it btw but somehow nintendo does own it
>Use your gear, your tv, your channel, your internet to stream in in your stream
>Nintendo:UMM UMM you don't own it, we decide what you do with it
Squinckie eyes people trying to instigate a hierarchy

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>>29852543
>SRW completely shut down
>again
Nothing ever changes. Same thing happened with various OG games not being translated, leaving a quasi inaccessible lore gap in the series until they started including English as a language option. Some got fan translations, but OGs took 13 years and Gaiden still only has a Chinese translation. Thinking back, I should've used that disappointment to fuel my reps.

Anyway, at least the bandaids got ripped off early. This is why chubas have personal accounts, to sidestep permissions autism. Maybe Axel will wind up joining Vshounen somewhere down the line.

>> No.29879891

>>29879712
Doesn't SRW include multiple IPs?
Thats a lot of companies you gotta get permission from

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>>29859188
>>29863848
why game dev are retarded? they dont want free promotion? their game being played by these cute girls are already a huge favor, what else could they ask for

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>>29878808

>> No.29880944

>>29878808
no amount of putting in the hours beats "no" retard. it isn't a fucking quest in a video game where you can fill a little progress bar by continuing to try until it's full and you get what you want no matter what.

>> No.29881139

>>29852543
The only benefit of corpo seems to be the income. Indies do literally whatever they want and it's pretty cool.

>> No.29881245

>>29879891
Traditionally. But they also include OCs in most games, all of which are glorified crossover fics. In the 2000s, they actually created an IP friendly spinoff franchise using just their own donut steels, and the first two games in that series got western localizations.

Apparently there was some issue when the PS2 remake came out, possibly due to it having voice acting and JAM Project music, and eventually they just started adding English translations to non-western releases within the past few years (supposedly) to sidestep english localization/licensing issues.

tldr SRW went from no localization because multiple franchises to no localization (presumably) because audio licensing issues, and it's probably the same reason games like Mischief Makers, MS Saga and even the Mega Man Zero/ZX series didn't have their Japanese songs in the western release either.

The only saving grace is that he could maybe play OG1, OG2 and Endless Frontier. Just not EXCEED, because that has a Nana Mizuki song in it. Music autism, please understand.

>> No.29881298

>>29876390
So it's ENmanager's fault?

>> No.29881586

>>29881245
some instances of removing japanese songs / audio probably also had some to do with autism about not allowing untranslated things to be left as-is in a localization

>> No.29882267

>>29881586
It makes sense from a conservative standpoint if your target is the mass market. Problem is, it also betrays not having a finger on the gaming market's pulse or understanding the finer nuances of the target demographic. A game with untranslated audio is still a gateway to people buying into that franchise and continuing to consoom future games. In contrast, by not releasing certain games or cutting out content...in an age where the internet allows people to know what you did...all it does is foment potential backlash among those who feel they were shortchanged by having to pay full price for an inferior, butchered product.

Meanwhile, normalfags probably don't have strong feelings or care either way about the finer details (ie Hololive and Apple's brand loyalty buff), which is why the "hide your moon runes" strat was only ever seen in a negative light both at the time and especially now that eastern culture is far more normalized than before.

At least McDonald's BTS sweet chili sauce and subbed anime movies playing in theaters finally offered us the pyrrhic victory of being able to gloat that autistic weebs poopsocking it in their mothers' basements really did know better than corporations this whole time.

>> No.29882301

>>29874254
DQ games are individual because square has special internal rules for it. Ie the hero of each game can only appear in that game, which is why smash getting them was amazing. This is also why they don’t appear in the warrior or monster spin-offs.
DQ3 also has the 2DHD pixel remake comi by our so they might want to hold off for that

>> No.29882408

>>29882267
oh trust me i am aligned with your position here, but i do get a lot of heat in some communities sometimes for pointing out that these localizing philosophies existed and probably existed for a reason at the time. i definitely don't think this is something that could have been done cold turkey before anime and whatnot really had its foot firmly in the door internationally

>> No.29882613
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29882613

why do corpos need permissions? is this a Japan thing?

>> No.29882823

>>29881298
More like it's the talents' fault for not having the balls to blackmail their managers into working harder if they don't want the talent to yab all over stream.
Only Kiara is that strong, and even she doesn't have the brass ones to say "get me a Pomu collab or I'll start leaking discord logs on stream".

>>29882613
Short answer: Yes.

>> No.29882836

>>29882613
>why do corpos need permissions?
Because the devs/publishers say so.
>is this a Japan thing?
No.
Why are you using spoilers?

>> No.29882880

>>29882836
>Why are you using spoilers?
Don't tell that anon how to live his life.

>> No.29883094

>>29882836
>why are you using spoilers?
because your mother will die in her sleep if you don't reply to this post

>> No.29883279

>>29882880
He's living his life incorrectly.

>> No.29883342

>>29853653
I'll watch a Holostar if they stream Utawarerumono (though not ZAN)

>> No.29883346

>>29855596
>>EVERY MECHA IP HOLDER IN THE PAST 30 YEARS
>chuuba wants to play Robotech Battlecry
>has to go through Harmony Gold of all things for permission
Yeah, I can see why Cover won't go through hassle of negotiating with western developers, they're the worst.

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>>29882408
The heat probably comes from a frustration with the reason, which is that it's ultimately just a carryover from those who'd been comfy in their positions too long and had lost touch with changing entertainment trends. A fancy piece of paper doesn't mean shit if you can't actually read the market worth a damn.

Otherwise, it really could've been done cold turkey. The market was so there that fans even came together and threw copyright law out the window to create a semi-communistic black market of freely distributed works/translations both fan and pirated. That's how weebshit grew in the first place, due to demand driven community efforts to import, adapt and build culture around eastern entertainment even in the absence of institutional support.

IIRC it's also the way VRchat became popularized, with a bottom up, demand driven "build the infrastructure and let the chips fall where they may" approach. Demand ultimately drives the market, which is why reasonable consumer entitlement is completely justified. After all, you can try to sell a horse water, but he still can't buy it because he's a horse. Gotta go where the customers are and give 'em what they want, which is why chubas still stream on YouTube despite its quasi-draconian content standards.

tldr People are always pissed when they were right, explained in detail exactly why they were right, and still nobody listened...only for them to be proven right anyway.

>> No.29883683

>>29855596
If Axel hits 1M and asks for SRW permissions, would Yagoo run the gauntlet for him?

>> No.29884277

>>29883683
Anon, don't have false hope. I've been to that rodeo before, and fan support usually doesn't matter when it comes to western licensing issues. In the English speaking sphere, the only thing that moves the hearts and minds of corporations is money and politically motivated terrorism.

>> No.29884336

>>29883683
No. Gura hit 4M sub and they still can’t get her the barbie horse adventure permission.
SRW permission will take a much higher miracle work than that game.

>> No.29884394

>>29883683
If it was possible to complete that gauntlet? I have no doubt that Yagoo would try. But as another anon pointed out, there's a few choice faggots among those IP holders that would at the very least attach ridiculous stipulations to permissions, if not outright say "no way fag". Some conditions are worse than just not streaming the game in the first place.

>> No.29887002

>>29881139
Income, connections, prestige, fan base, fan art, actual creativity

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