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/nasfaqg/ - NASFAQ General

Thread for the discussion of NASFAQ, a financial market simulator based on trading of coins that represent the members of hololive.

This is a fake stock market game meant for fun, not a real crypto.

Research 1: https://schedule.hololive.tv
Research 2: https://holo.poi.cat

>> No.3002822

Why did no one make a thread? Is the game dead forever?

>> No.3002865
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previous thread(s)

I was editing a funny image that will be used for next thread

>> No.3002920

It bloody should be if it has miners.

>> No.3002921

Proof-of-Work or Proof-of-Stake, anons?

>> No.3003102

What do you prefer I mean.

>> No.3003132

I've only messed with small shitcoins so Proof of Stake

>> No.3003605

>account was deleted

>> No.3003637

what are you talking about?

>> No.3003773

oh nevermind the login is just asking for email now instead of username

>> No.3003878
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buy civia.

>> No.3003944

Wake up to towa scrims cancelled, time to dump

>> No.3004120
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I'm laughing at all you faggots doing fundamental analysis based on the schedules and stats.

I only do technical analysis. I only look at a select few stonks. Pekora's great. Fuck you fundamentaliers.

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your /biz/ betting experience won't help you here
I wish more anons that play on nasfaq spent a week on /biz/ to learn basic patterns and cry less

>> No.3004311

Fuck, I thought today was Wednesday. No wonder these numbers don't make sense.

>> No.3004543

somebody make a nasfaq spreadshit pls

>> No.3004797

there's no miners you schizo, don't slander the website

>> No.3004878

I tried to buy a coin and my gpu fans spun up FUCK YOU HONK STOP STEALING MY DOGE

>> No.3004900

No ads? just for some computer power? fuck it, it's fun. I don't mind.

>> No.3004920

I like this new rrat

>> No.3005144
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what about the new system is causing networths to be so "spikey"? I can't figure out why it will spontaneously jump down for a single cycle. I'm not seeing any coins do this.

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wtf, mine doesn't show mid-day changes at all, it's just a straight line from one day to the next

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That's not on the site anon, though I'm glad I did a good job matching the style.

>> No.3005323

That 30k dip and rebound earlier is pretty funny. Maybe when you have a lot of buys/sells queued it thinks you lost that money for a cycle?

>> No.3005334

Its when you buy/sell money gets taken/added from your balance but the coin stays in your inventory until the broken processes it so its double counting. You'll notice if you buy a bunch of coins your networth will go down by a lot on your profile but it'll go back to normal once you get your coins

>> No.3005379

ah that was my theory but I could have sworn data from the leaderboard wasn't susceptible to that.

>> No.3005842
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- Pekora just anounced a 24 HOUR LIVESTREAM (pic related), BUY BUY BUY BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE
- Due to Coco's bodily condition (as studied in >>2772926) our beloved Doggo has started a gitgud smell campaign https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxS6BF_a2Rk we love it, you love it, and the market loves it.
- Ollie's still a slut, we still love it, the market likes it, buy now before her contract runs out!

>> No.3006064

when will we get an Annoying Orange stock?

>> No.3006268
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Doing gods work Anon

>> No.3006303

now this is pod racing

>> No.3006659

>24 HOUR
will it count for today's adjustment?

>> No.3007239

I'm not going on /biz/ but I learned a few things about the market and ML.
The website seems to download the entire history and stats files every 15 cycles. These are around 20mb combined. I'm not sure about the socket implementation but from what I understand, it could as well be downloading the entire queue on every single transaction. Not sure about that one.

>> No.3008155

Youtube only allows for 11 hrs 59 min streams.

>> No.3008270

She's having small breaks when the cap time comes, you retard. Can't you read the text? >>3005842

>> No.3008312

too late I sold

>> No.3008343
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I speed read and have 0 interest in buying $PEKO.

>> No.3010385

24 hour livestream eh? Will this be the new mars landing after nene?

>> No.3011178
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What the FUCK

>> No.3011322
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I told you not to sell, we're skipping the moon and going straight to Acheron.

>> No.3011462

Price $1400 was at start and ended up at $2000. After adjustment it went sideways. Now that the views have increased 6 times, I expect 6k minimum.

>> No.3011508

>Rushia 734k views

>> No.3011542

She is actually 372914 views

>> No.3011622

This man is attempting to scam you, buy Rushia NOW.

>> No.3011722

>Miko isn't doing a 1 million celebration stream
I got scammed so fucking hard on this shitcoin

>> No.3011890

Haachama's gay schizo video has double the views of her kino karaoke, I fucking hate redditors.

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Peko stock can only go to the moon from now on

>> No.3012111

The inhability to pump und dump is just an injustice. I artificialy raise the prices in a masterful way and gain nothing from my brave efforts. I'll go back to the actual stock market and /biz/ where my efforts are applauded.

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Get bogged

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my only regret is not buying all the risu.

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NENE 2.0 Incoming bros

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liquidating everything that isn't my oshi, I'm all in on Risu

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This thread is making me want to invest it all on Risu

>> No.3013843
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you don't want to invest in this delicious squirrel anon? dissapointing

>> No.3014046
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$RISU insider here, just go the latest projections on her performance for this evening

>> No.3014185
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$RISU insider here, prepare to be bogged

>> No.3014233

pretty accurate

>> No.3014257

>1 share

>> No.3014302

Risu herself here. I'm going down HARD tonight. Do NOT buy me. SELL SELL SELL. Everyone should sell it now and definitely not increase the price any more.

>> No.3014362

post feet for proof treerrat

>> No.3014381
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post wallet

>> No.3014458
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I think you can find it easily enough.

>> No.3014542

i-is it too late to climb the tree? asking for a friend

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buy civia... please....

>> No.3014668

I actually sold all my Civia at a loss today, the dream is dead.

>> No.3014719

CIVIA is the worst casualty of this update. she had a future of unlimited gains, now she's just the most solid bank possible

>> No.3014946

I warned you and the miko avatarfag called me an anti for saying they don't usually do big celebrations for 1m streams.

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1 guy ngmi

>> No.3015242

Can't wait for Risu to move $0 again and everyone to abandon the game for the 4th time in the last 4 days.

>> No.3015404

Remember to sell your treerat before adjustment to ensure you don't get bogged by adjustment

>> No.3015534

372 is still more than yesterday.

>> No.3015616

I genuinely fucking hate Mikosharts so fucking much it's unreal. Hololive discussion on 4chan was infinitely better before this parasite came back from what should have been a permanent break.

>> No.3015641

Calm down anon Miko is cool, it's just her fans that are shit.
Not like that whore Pekora....

>> No.3015684

I don' know friends. 125k to 800k, if risu didn't penetrate mars due to gains then there is something wrong with the system

>> No.3015795

yes my lord

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>> No.3016149

Yes, please do this.

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explain the adjustment to me please i don't want to wake up poor

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why do you hate me? you faggot

>> No.3016440
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$RISU is way over valued, you should definitely sell it off as soon as possible to avoid the sideways adjustment. I mean 800k views? That's barely above average for Risu.

>> No.3016547

>stocks that should be going up are going down
I'm sure I'll come out on top after adjustments but I swear some people are fucking retarded.

>> No.3016573

Don't forget to buy Pekora, the 24hr stream will be legendary!

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This guy knows what's up! Everyone, remember the news bulletin! >>3005842

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that is fud so he can fill his bags and you don't dump on him after adjustment.
but if you aren't staying up for them you should probably take profit from the pump.

>> No.3016879

I don't have nearly enough Risu but I'll take my small profit and live with it.

>> No.3016917

Can you stop buying Risu now, I've lost 9% market share today.

>> No.3016935

>price is listed as 2411
>buy before anyone else buys
I really do not like this new system.

>> No.3016970

We need more of these threads. We can artificialy manipulate the prices of a stock and dump it before the adjustment, like what just occured with Risu in a big way and in a smaller way with Pekora

>> No.3017057

we need Redchannit bag holders

>> No.3017068
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green goes up
red goes down
green is good
red is bad

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yes, *please* dump it. it's definitely going down.

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>> No.3017473

just spent all my money on buying oshicoin
life feels good

>> No.3017524

>tfw oshicoin fails a cost/benefit analysis

>> No.3017771
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I've made so much with Pekora today. You don't fucking know how much I want to fuck that bunny. 4k here we fucking go

>> No.3018096

Just realized how heavily I've been sleeping on Botan.

>> No.3018357

I was wondering if I was missing something, weirdly quiet coin for her numbers todays.

>> No.3018519

I don't think she'll go up much from here, so a bit of a waste to buy in now, but definitely a good buy at the 1700-1750 it was earlier today.

>> No.3018593

For some reason Botan's coin never moves or only moves down even on her good days.

>> No.3018729

Devs have innate bias, some coins only ever get fucked and some only ever go up even when they shouldn't. It's clear it isn't a single formula for every coin, some Holos get preferential treatment.

>> No.3018825

As it should be.

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it appears my superiority has led to some controversy

>> No.3019448
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Hi everyone, this is just an announcement that we have some updates ready to roll out this coming Saturday (exact time TBA). We've been reading everyone's feedback and are working on a new economy system that we hope will be much more enjoyable. We've learned the importance of being transparent with our players and not springing completely new mechanics on them without any prior information on how the game will work. We want to make the game fun, intuitive, and fair. Currently, this new system includes real time price updates and transactions (no more broker queue, you pay/ get what you see), shorter cooldown, an improved data scraper for statistics, and a new daily adjustment system. Until we're ready to release that, please enjoy the new features coming this weekend:
1. Oshiboard - an addition to the leaderboard showing the "Board of Directors" for each holo, the top 5 users who hold the most of that holo's coins
2. IPO of Pochimaru and Ayamy coins

>> No.3019452

Nigger, Peko never twitted that shit. It also roughly translates to "24 hour stream. I piss on your graves and coins. I will get those stocks."

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Thank you devchama

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I like the oshiboard idea. Thanks for the hard work devs. Sounds like I'll have to double down on my oshi. Looking forward to future posts on the updates.

>> No.3019585

thanks honk and frens, liking what i see but can the site really support real time price updates?

>> No.3019633

How about a price graph you can interact with? (making lines, arrows and such to develop a deep technical analysis)

>> No.3019637

That really lit a fire up your ass huh? Nice

>> No.3019674

I know it will eat up my pc but could you make graphs that zoom out?

>> No.3019782

eh its always cool to have a dev that actually listen

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Going to ask again but are you able to add some sort of means of specifying boundaries so we don't have this sort of shit making graphs hard to read?

>> No.3019911

Add Nene's mama too https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpXYzk_uutXwHCpr2lcRN3w

She isn't a full-time vtuber but she pumps out content once or twice a week and has done collabs I believe.

>> No.3020406

Homolive update when?

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>> No.3020627

These updates look good, also I'm investing in Pochicoin.

>> No.3020630

oh fuck who's realizing civia's undervalued

>> No.3020670

lmao bro her dividend was $15, she's literally the most overvalued coin on the market by such a hilarious margin it's not even funny and she's been dropping $100-200 every day, if you buy Civia you are literally self-scamming.

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still trying to trick people into buying civia so you can offload your bags anon? kek

>> No.3020720

don't you realize >>3020630 is trying to get people to buy so he can undo his shit investment?

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she WILL adjust up tonight. not by a lot, but she will. quote me on this

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it's not to late to join the wave

>> No.3021238

Based devs. After so long being able to only draw her fetiches it’s finally time Pochi gets pumped like there’s no tomorrow.

>> No.3021279

anon this is kinda sad...
I can see you're trying to buy on the queue every time you post these to try to bait others into buying too

>> No.3021337

if you aren't shilling your oshi are you even trying?

>> No.3021372

You're not trying if you're doing it like >>3021155
A good example of shilling is >>3005842

>> No.3021449

Here's an idea: What if the daily adjustment was done progressively over the entire day instead of entirely at once? That would eliminate the need to buy/sell right at the adjustment to profit

>> No.3021451

She's not his oshi he's just trying to pump her coin so he can offload the bags he's holding since she dropped a couple days ago.

>> No.3021459

>she'll adjust up from 0 views
She's going all the way back to fucking $60, where she belongs.

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what's your movement been like leading up to tonight's adjustment anons?

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Just hold your bags like a man anon, it's not so bad.

Also does anyone know how IPO's work in this game? What price will Pochi and Ayamy launch at?

>> No.3021572

She will stay overvalued forever unless FinanCivial somehow comes back and deletes his account and his 200 civiacoins with it. T-that will never happen... right?

>> No.3021592

>hold your bags
but I'm not just holding, I'm stacking up more bags.

>> No.3021601

Fucking great idea, a reason to hoard oshi regardless of net worth

>> No.3021616

That's an interesting concept. What exactly happens if someone holding a large quantity of coins just deletes their account? Does the market stay the same or does it consider it and just tank it from the massive decrease in coin supply.

>> No.3021690

>she'll stay overvalued
I don't think so, unless she suddenly stops trending downwards. She's been consistently losing value every day and the only reason she hasn't fallen even lower is because for some reason retards are buying and pumping her value. They will eventually run out of money though and then the coin will really enter freefall. I expect it to be under $1000 by Saturday. Again though I wouldn't personally buy it for more than $100.

>> No.3021825

Will I got adjustment price if I sold my coin around first cycle at 1:05 EST before scheduled adjustment?

>> No.3021855

I don't think so, adjustment price kicks in immediately after that cycle ends. you'll be selling for the price at the time you hit sell, even if it doesn't go through till the queue empties.

>> No.3021935

But anon, I consider anything above $500 as being overvalued for Civia coin. I think that was her normal value before FinanCivial happened. She will probably constantly drop to somewhere close to that.
I'm really curious about that, too.

>> No.3021991

Sold half of my RISU to guarantee my 2x

>> No.3022002

her real value is $17.52 LOL

>> No.3022036

Please stop talking about Civia you're gonna scare people into mass selling her and then I'll lose half my net worth.

>> No.3022082

If I owned Civia I would sell her right fucking now and get out before I lose everything I have.

>> No.3022100

Civia will never be a stable coin, she will only ever be pumped and dumped

>> No.3022106

sorry anon, I just want to buy more for myself. going to be sad if I dedicated myself to her just to not even make the oshiboard

>> No.3022132

Can't even pump and dump her anymore, it worked under the old system because nobody lost (everyone paid $100, then sold for $150)
Now if you try to pump Civia some people win and some people lose. Not exactly an appealing transaction.

>> No.3022183

those were the good days, everyone could gain from the pumping. now everyone's out to ruin each other's dumps.

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>Good days

>> No.3022279

there are certain points in time where you're gonna have to realize that you have to cut your losses. now is one of them.

>> No.3022286

You also lose some money from 'tax' since the coin prices increase before you buy and decrease before you sell.

>> No.3022344

Dont sugarcoat things too much, we should have some red days

>> No.3022363

Fucking capital gains taxes.

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>> No.3022398

All these people selling Risu are in for a bad day.

>> No.3022420

risu... I'm ready

>> No.3022425
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this is FUD btw.

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>> No.3022534
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I've been able to get the best sell/buy price by queuing my transactions right on the hour for the past few days.
>Buying risu at this time
Someone is in for a bad time

>> No.3022544

Where is the adjustment?

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Oh, look who went UP.

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Cya later nerds.

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>> No.3022581

I expected Botan to hit 2500, she hit 2600. Pretty decent prediction there. A lot of my investments did really solid, feeling good. Should have bought WAY more fucking Risu though, even if it meant selling stuff for no gain.

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>> No.3022592

Ah fuck, i'm out from top 15

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cya right back where you were in 5 cycles

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>> No.3022629

>that Coco spike
>that Watame crash
lmao I told you fucking nerds

>> No.3022634

Noel went up 25% just from a sub tick, she had awful views, didn't even stream. That's weird.

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Dump eet

>> No.3022649

So I made money from Risu and that's great but I really don't get the game anymore. Wasn't the new "bubble popping" thing exactly to stop this kind of thing where everyone piles on for easy money?

>> No.3022658

What are the odds Risu knows about NASFAQ and made those videos specifically to inflate her value

>> No.3022659

Yo what do I answer in Towa... to register? I've seen so many variations of that I don't know what to put in it

>> No.3022661

$29, but that does expose the system is literally fucking broken considering Civia got 0 (zero) views today. Coin value is literally half RNG.
Value is RNG, it's only partially tied to stats.

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> not believing


>> No.3022670

she was severely undervalued. like, to an absurd degree. apparently people actually believe my FUD about it adjusting to 0%. not complaining.

>> No.3022671
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I never doubted you my knight

>> No.3022672

Watame's gonna be so cheap for tomorrow's adjustments holy

>> No.3022676

I put in "baby" and it worked for me

>> No.3022677

Calliope had less viewers than she had yesterday, still went up. Gura had moderate rise in viewers, still went up 1k. Really doesnt make sense

>> No.3022680

I have ethics and don't buy indo stocks.

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yes, they even doubled down to laugh in our faces that "everything is working as expected" when now it's basically exactly what it was before until they prove that it isn't. Only now you get randomly fucked every cycle if you come in late.

>> No.3022688

>it's real
what is with translations and their overuse of あなた

>> No.3022691

in the old economy, I'm pretty sure you can sell every risu coin in almost no loss in value, in this economy, we go back to the previous value in like 7 cycles

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>tfw gonna make a 10k profit off an fubuki adjustment nobody else knew
Heh, see ya idiots

>> No.3022699

Noel going up was expected. Learn how it works

>> No.3022701

anon I didn't say it'd adjust up arbitrarily. she has an "inherent value" that all holos adjust too based on volume and subs. not rng, but definitely can be broken

>> No.3022710

>trying to buy a dip
>everyone elses market adjusted before mine, extremely late in the queue despite it only being one minute after adjustments were "supposed" to happen, don't get to buy any dips
good system lol

>> No.3022711

She was at $2600 anon how is that undervalued? She gets like 1k average views per stream. Even before her video dump she was worth like $1.2-1.3k which is about the same as Iofi and Anya.

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I have a feeling Risu actually one of the Dev

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Only about 150 Risu went into circulation today because so many doubters sold, you cannot crash her hard enough, you don't have the volume. I AM THE NUT KING.

>> No.3022720

I went from my least diversified portfolio to my most diversified

>> No.3022727

I guess, but the reason she was so high today is because retards pumped her all day for some unknown reason, they lost a ton of money on her.

>> No.3022729

risu is Weyland-Ayunda Corp

>> No.3022740

even pekora getting 800k views in a day will adjust her up, you're explaining exactly why she was undervalued. she made absurdly higher view counts than ever before and people only bought enough to bring her to $2600

>> No.3022745

Put the three dots in your answer, I had problems with that too

>> No.3022755

She has zero inherent value, her dividends are literally $15.03
Do I have to say this until I'm blue in the fucking face? CIvia has ZERO value. She has no views, no subs, she LOSES subs weekly, she is literally the most worthless fucking asset imaginable. There is NO inherent value to her at all.
Also inherent value being an adjustment factor is laughable. Shit like Nene/Kanata/Suisei already prove that there is no inherent value factor at play.

>> No.3022771

A great, now that I dumped all flarecoins she decides to take a trip to the moon the next day

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>> No.3022797

She only moved by like 300 anon...

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Less circulation, high adjustment. Now this will be a long time before she got back to her previous value

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>adjusted up around 400

25 coins?

>> No.3022856

My average purchase price for her coin was $1666, that's around $500 in profit lost

>> No.3022857

i thought everyone knew

>> No.3022865

I'm amazed how many /nasfaq/ posters still don't understand this system. not complaining of course, their loss is my gain

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I knew it was her when she asked me to shop this holy shit.

>> No.3022885

i mean, people are spoonfeeding the moons yet eh

>> No.3022896

it's only a couple days old

>> No.3022898

People knew, that's why it was climbing up. In fact I might have overbought with 4 coins. That guy isn't going to make 10k from her.

>> No.3022939

Predicting ups and downs is not especially hard, but the actual system itself is a bunch of absolute nonsensical RNG shit tacked on to view/subs.
If you're so fucking confident you "understand" it then go ahead and post the actual calculations. You can't.

>> No.3022945

This is basically just another coco day two adjustment, I'm surprised there are some anon who didn't buy her after that event.

>> No.3022952

I hoped the new economy would favor guys like that who goes on lesser know coins, and punish people pilling on the obvious big one for easy money. But I guess not

>> No.3022982

You can't base yourself off coco, her stock was manually changed by the admins and wasn't being traded normally at all. Even day two was probably because of the massive artificial sell off

>> No.3023005

Mogu 1 million soon

>> No.3023022

>massive artificial sell-off
Sorta but not really, Coco had Meme Review and I think Minecraft that day, she had huge views that people seemingly ignored. I bought back in a ton at 2200 and couldn't comprehend why others weren't buying back in.

>> No.3023031

Everything rebounds too fast jeez

>> No.3023038

Coco did double what she did yesterday, anyone saying this bump was unexpected is retarded.

>> No.3023040

Why is Noel going up in the adjustment??

>> No.3023042

shuba playing granblue tomorrow?
i forgot about that game desu

>> No.3023089

She gained 10k subs since youtube's system only logs subs in 10k increments past 1 million. So it's like her entire week's worth of subs were all counted today.

>> No.3023102

The only thing that wasn't 10%+ for me was Ollie, which doesn't make a lot of sense when you look at her views but whatever.

>> No.3023103

try not being too hard on them, if 70% of posters weren't retarded there wouldn't be gains to be had

>> No.3023131

I will never watch another Miko stream again after getting bogged on this shitcoin.

>> No.3023135

People are talking about coco from new economy night anons, not tonight

>> No.3023140

Ah, right. I forgot about that.

>> No.3023204

Devs need to do something to make it easier to offload large amounts of a single coin at once.
Especially with the oshi leaderboard coming, holding more than 5 of a coin will never be profitable unless it's a Risu/Coco situation where it moons so high that it takes hours to cycle back down.

>> No.3023214

well fuck me i'm down 13k

>> No.3023219

wish more holos went down tonight, I have no one to buy

>> No.3023222

I think what I hate most about this new economy is that buying the dips is no longer a thing. Coin value drops slowly, so selling peaks is still possible, but value goes up insanely fast.
If Coin A goes up $500 and Coin B goes down $500, Coin A will drop maybe $150 in one cycle but Coin B will go up $500 in a single cycle so you can only ever get maybe 1 coin out of a dip.

>> No.3023264

Yeah I've noticed this as well, I've just started buying Gura with my excess money after every adjustment since buying dips is too hard.
Managed to pick up one of Watame and Polka before they cycled back up to their pre-adjustment numbers.

>> No.3023278

Holding Oshi is literally only viable as a dividend play, if you have an Oshi with a high dividend ratio (i.e., Gura) then you're golden. If your Oshi is a shitcoin like Towa though, wew.

>> No.3023282

There's no point in Oshi coin then. The risk is what make it worth.

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it's been a good night. thanks risu

>> No.3023316

>Weyland-Ayunda unloads 100 treerrat coin instantly
>Everyone left holding squirrel droppings

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If this isn't dev bias I don't know what else to call it.

>> No.3023346

Everyone pretending to hold gura as their "oshicoin" is a goddamn liar

>> No.3023374

they might be UOOOOOOOOH connoisseurs

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>he dumped Risu yesterday
Tell us, how are you feeling now anonchama?

>> No.3023408

pump it

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I want to strangle every single watame poster

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>> No.3023427

if people are screeching with the queue system, then the meltdown that will occur in this thread when someone drops 50 coins cratering the value will be very memorable

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>> No.3023441

I dumped risu before the adjustment

>> No.3023444
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Who else here didn't learn anything from the fat cat fiasco and Coco disaster?

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Not them because I bought a couple and had a massive gains. My only regret is not buying 10

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Did only investing in my oshi finally pay off bros....?

>> No.3023491

She had an English stream today with "hi honey" in the title

>> No.3023494

Eh, could make bulk sales something that has to be done with like a 1 hour notice that gets announced in the queue.
So everyone would see Ayunda is about to dump 100 Risu stocks an hour after adjustment and rushes to sell their Risus before his sale executes, crashing the price.

>> No.3023503

>coin goes up $500
>click sell
>barely get any money
>check my history
>coin sold for $200 less than I paid for it
>mere seconds before I clicked sell, a whale dumped his entire stack and tanked the value so far down it's lower than what I bought it at
It simply will not work with the new system, people will get bogged so insanely fucking hard on sheer timing that it'll be insane. It's already pretty bad with how fast the price tanks in general from like 30 people selling, imagine 30 people selling but it's like 100 coins and your profit evaporates before you can even click sell.

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>daily views
>the hope of hololive


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Ina's already back up to 3000 because people keep buying her, she's never going down...
I understand you now nenepro

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I would never, I'm keeping 100.

>> No.3023528

Oshicoin is always best coin

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I love her

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the hard part is selling some of it or sinking right back where you came from

>> No.3023556

We've seen Nene, Civia, Matsuri, and now Risu. Investing in oshicoin is the way.

>> No.3023560

You fucks are selling Watame way too early

>> No.3023566

>coin hits adjustment levels
>everyone INSTANTLY buys it again, pumps it, sells it back down to adjustment levels and then it stabilizes
This market is honestly so stupid.

>> No.3023567

this is gonna pay off so much when board of directors update gets released
imagine the bragging rights

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>a whale dumped his entire stack

that's not how that works.

>> No.3023583

But you could crash it and buy it all back when people are panic selling.

>> No.3023593

I assume smoothbrains just bought the dip, means cheap sheep for us.

>> No.3023599

so the oishi holders will screech now, screaming death to the devs cuz its unfair and shit and unplayable

>> No.3023633

How am I meant to gain money when you fucks have such big fucking mouths

>> No.3023648

vodstonks on sheepcoin

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Why screech? I can just buy more oshi. Less for them, more for me.

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>> No.3023665

Shut the fuck up you braindead 35piss, your entire existence is trying to fuck people over.

>> No.3023672

Learn to FUD

>> No.3023691

oshi value crashing is actually good for oshiholders, it's terrible when it's high because you can't buy

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I bought 17 risu coins under 2k. Yeah I'm gain quite a lot.

>> No.3023698

business, baby

>> No.3023710

Welcome to the 1AM market, where all the literal retards are on making fucking inane rat race numbers decisions where tiny profits are all they care about.

>> No.3023717

oshiholders would see no real change since they can always sell one at a time if they want to avoid the crash. it just adds more strategy if anything.

>> No.3023738

Good night anons, today was another great day

>> No.3023741

just buy the dip
you get more coin for less money

>> No.3023745

This, people understand what Fubuki is worth now and I hate it.

>> No.3023750

if true then go for it, as a soulless leech trying to climb the leaderboard, multi-coin buy and sell will be very welcome

>> No.3023785

Ayunda I see you offloading those acorns you have you cheeky nutsack

>> No.3023786

Just wondering, does anyone hold over 45 ENEN?

>> No.3023810

only nenechad i guess
i only have 10 rn

>> No.3023811

*46, not 45
my bad

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did you seriously buy in when all I did was make my portfolio pretty? I didn't even shill the last two days and before that all she did was go UP UP UP and guess what todays adjustment brought you absolute simpleton

>> No.3023814

I'm torn between mass buying Nene or Haato.
Probably gonna pick Haato since nobody in the top 10 seems to care about her stock and won't try to beat me to it.

>> No.3023837

Trying to have patience in this market is the worst, especially now that buying dips is basically non-existent. I keeping banking on the idea that I can just buy adjustment dips but that's not actually feasible because adjustment dips are only good for one coin.

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Girl's gotta eat.

>> No.3023876

todays adjustment brought almost nothing, Miko is an ugly bulldyke shitcoin propped up by FUD. What a complete waste of money.

>> No.3023885

The best time to buy is the hour or so before adjustment actually. Everyone will be so focused on that day's top performers they'll liquidate their other stocks to buy more Risu or whatever and you can get them at somewhat of a discount sometimes.

>> No.3023903

What username? Let's see how faithful you are to your oshi.

>> No.3023919

Nobody else has been propping her up except the one Miko avatarfag, why would you possibly fall for his shit?
It'd be more believable maybe if he wasn't so obvious about it, you have no one else to blame but yourself for believing him. That's almost as bad as listening to watame posters.

>> No.3023920

NenePro Ltd.
You're not the same guy who asked me the last few times are you?

>> No.3023931

The problem is that I don't want to buy more coins. People selling makes me go down on leaderboard, which absolutely pisses me off.

>> No.3023941

I don't watch Miko so I vastly underestimated how literally garbage she is, I figured she was at least half decent but no she's literally dead weight and probably one of the least talented Hololive streamers in general.

>> No.3023943

just earn more money :^)

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>> No.3023958

You're probably the most recognizable poster here because you're the only one posting nene and yet people constantly ask who you are

>> No.3023961

ah I know that feeling

>> No.3023976

What do you mean, I don't see anyone asking your username

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>> No.3024027

The Tony Hawk of Nasfaq

>> No.3024039

At least 2 other people post Nene, but yeah I know. Weird.
Maybe not in this thread, but I've been asked a few times by the same one guy. He even called it out. See >>2966706

>> No.3024040

Can we please get the two treerrat holders off the top 10? This is a reputable institution you are smearing right now

>> No.3024066

I'll probably drop to 6th. God knows what adjustment tomorrow will do to me though.

>> No.3024067

Why is Towa more valuable than Lamy?

>> No.3024068

Her Priestess' Treasury PLEASE stop buying Inanis coin

>> No.3024085

People are retarded, anyways stop mentioning it.

>> No.3024096

bug off rrat

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>> No.3024106

Why are both yfp and mogu holding so much Marine? Isn't she a shitcoin? She barely ever moves and her dividend is mediocre for her price.

>> No.3024116

They keep shilling marine coin for the past two weeks, there is no way they will sell it

>> No.3024132

Honestly oshicoin only works if your oshi is a shit coin that get moon'd by a meme or unpredicted circumstance

>> No.3024140

My theory is they bought a ton of Marine coin in anticipation of her announcement she planned for the 26th that never happened and they're too ashamed to eat the loss.

>> No.3024152

Cus there are no Lamey cucks in the top 100

>> No.3024160

What loss? Marine is only going down by any appreciable amount if she takes time off, like Gura, and 25% dividends isn't bad.

>> No.3024174

No, it's not me.

>> No.3024182

That's why it's called oshicoin. You put your faith in the coin, believing that one day she will take you to the moon or you'll be the one who keeps pumping her and carry it to the moon yourself.

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very nice

do your reps and don't buy uninformed, filtered EOP-kun. Please seethe and FUD her daily so I can buy her cheap. Or increase her price and my networth by making posts so abhorrent people buy her out of spite.
In any which way, I win. This is the power of oshicoins. As long as Miko lives rent-free in (you)r head, we win.

>> No.3024251

How's your crypto doing?

>> No.3024267

Adjustments will put her back in the dumpster where she belongs. Hopefully her "condition" puts her back in the hospital for a few months soon.

>> No.3024275

>he thinks miko isn't going up again today

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hi, it's me, I shilled Marine for a good two weeks now. Every single one of those posts was me. She's up from ~1700 to 3300 stable now. It works.

every coin gains value in inflation but I still want to sell this as my personal win. Also she streams a lot which makes this super easy to sell.

>> No.3024281

It's doing well thanks, I lost money at the start but I've made it all back, and now I'm on a warpath with ANKR. The pirate larp pays off. I would highly suggest buying either the current or next dip.

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you know who's buying. now that we get oshicoin enshrinements I have to buy more than 35.

>> No.3024307

What's your opinion on Proof of Stake crypto?

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actually, under 3k is a fucking steal for me.

>> No.3024352

Stop buying my oshi if you are a non-believer.

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Down 130k in an hour. Risu giveth, Risu taketh away.
I'd like to do more crypto but it's such a minefield and trying to do DD on things that seem promising bores me to tears.

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at least you made history like NenePro, FatCatter and PurchasePowerTenshi for believing in your oshi

>> No.3024401

The only problem with Crypto is it's not nearly as easy to predict what it'll do, there's real potential for loss, and it's real money. If I lost my entire NASFAQ net worth tomorrow I would be seething beyond fucking words, but at least I'd recover from that. If I lost my entire net worth in the Crypto market I would never recover.

>> No.3024414

Not him but I'm reading the chia paper, it's PoSpace instead of PoW and looks promising. What are the most popular PoS coins out there?

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Devchama here, anon, I'm going to need your username, insulting my oshi is a capital offense. Just because you hate some avatarfag doesn't mean you get to talk shit about her.
On a more serious note, multicoin is probably not going to be a thing once we set up the real time economy. We'll be turning down the timeouts for coins by a decent chunk which should enable people to buy/sell much faster than before. They'll still be in place though so we don't get autists with bots doing HF trading, at least to that level.
Regarding the real time economy, we think might be technically feasible now that we've taken a more serious look at it, but at the same time it might get fucked. Primary issue is reliable price numbers when there's extremely high volumes of transactions. Regardless of if our server can handle it, which isn't certain, people with slower connections to the servers will likely see slower updates to the prices and when they click, just the lag from their connection might bog them. While this is real market behavior, we do want to also make sure people can have fun, no matter where they live.
Regarding buying the adjustment dips, the issue there is probably people selling off during the day and reducing their volumes, which means more aggressive price changes. The top coins for a day going down slowly is also due to that, partially at least, since they usually have a ton of volume behind them. Honestly, apart from unplugging coin behavior from volume entirely, I can't say I know a fix. We could try turning down volatility even further. Also, I assure you guys the adjustment system is not based on RNG. Again, I can't tell you the exact equation but it is actually based on an equation.

>> No.3024421

There's no DD involved in crypto it's all just hype honestly. The "legitimate" cryptos that use interesting technology or focus on security/anonymity/etc never moon. It's always shitcoins and memecoins that get promoted on reddit.

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that's why first you decide a budget that doesn't hurt and only ever increase that budget with gains. Sell 50% off at every spike, adjust your budget, re-invest. You can NOT lose money you actually need if you prevent yourself from being greedy and free yourself from looking at perceived "losses" when you missed a chance. You miss chances every day, it's just not worth it.

>> No.3024434

I don't think oshicoining is supposed to be profitable at all. I think it's gatekeeping other people from easily buying the coin and keeping your coin overvalued as hell. Look at Ina'nis. Do you think Ina deserves to constantly float at 2500-3000? especially when she streams infrequently and just relatively underperforms other 2500-3000 coins? It's her loyal takodachis holding the value up and making buy ins difficult. It will be clearer once the oshi board gets set up.

>> No.3024440

You ever heard of only invest what you are willing to lose? I started playing with dogecoin a bit before its original pump this year and did 15$ and have turned it into about 400$ by reinvesting those gains into other things.

>> No.3024445

I really hope Chia doesn't take off, the last thing we need is unaffordable HDD/SSDs.

>> No.3024446

Ethereum 2.0 will be PoS, they already launched the Beacon Chain and they will dock it into the mainnet by 2022 probably.

>> No.3024452

PoS is promising, I might buy some coins that use the system. I don't know the intricacies of it, but I would imagine that many coins are going to adopt it within the current year, or maybe some new PoS coins will go big.

>> No.3024466

Regarding performances, do you send the whole queue each update on the ws or just concatenate the last transactions? The history is fuckhuge and could use some triming, all time graphs are useless anyway.

>> No.3024473

Spread the adjustments smoothly through the day and you won't be getting extremely high volumes of transactions

>> No.3024491

in hindsight, I didn't read the context. sorry

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As I said in a previous post, it's not so much about making things profitable but making for a more fun experience. Being able to mass dump coins adds an element of control that players have over their oshi's value which could be interesting.
Imagine the FUD of Priestess joking about selling off his Ina coins and triggering everyone to start selling her early and then he just buys up more at a discounted price instead.
It could be balanced around having all the big trades execute at the same time of day during slow time between JP primetime and EN stream times.

I don't think the volatility is that bad right now, but that's predicated on how scalable it is. If another 500 users started playing would the volatility adjust itself to be lower per transaction or would we see the same price dumps that we saw during the Coco crash?

>> No.3024526

>I'm going to need your username

>> No.3024532

Spreading adjustments out through the day would require either a better scraping method since Youtube only updates a few times a day or making it artificially spread them out which would just make the price stable the entire day in exchange for no one ever mooning.

>> No.3024567
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Finally manage to make an excess of unused 50k budgets. Any suggestion for stable coins to hold?

>> No.3024568

My username? Yes, it's [name of my mortal enemy] and I think Gura fucking sucks.

>> No.3024590

Can I interest you in some Risu?

>> No.3024594

I'm not sure it's viable to implement, but I'd like slightly lower volatility on buying coins in the first two or three cycles after an adjustment with it returning to normal afterwards.
So coins can be pumped throughout the course of the day, but people can't pump them after an adjustment and dips can be bought (for little to no immediate profit)

>> No.3024595

The way we're scraping now it's once a day in order to get an accurate reading. Even then YT API misses shit. We are writing an improved scraper but whether it will allow us to do hourly updates is still in question.
Since our data will not be updated throughout the day, adjustments will become fairly predictable and autists will still concentrate at every single small adjustment, you'd still get the same thing, plus panic sells might be worse due to an adjust down. I don't see it as that helpful but we can consider trying it one day.
I'm 90% certain that we do some concat fuckery and saving to your disk, I'm not sure though, I work mostly on backend. If you mean for the backend, of course we're concatenating there.
Volatility scales based off of volume, so the bigger the playerbase, the larger the volume, the lower the volatility per transaction. Obviously if a coin that only has 200 coins in circulation gets bought like mad, it'll rise meteorically and if you sell like a madman it'll drop like a brick.

>> No.3024604

I pulled out everything and now I'm waiting for friday morning to choose divies.
tl;dr buy Miko

>> No.3024611

Don't buy Inanis coin

>> No.3024613

Buy Civia she's the most stable coin of them all.

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or in other words, the first adjustment of the day would dictate the others if all you have to work off of are daily numbers, so people would expect what would come over the day and profit even more.
It's a delicate problem to solve.

Unironically Marine, you want a high value coin for fewer clicks, no?
Otherwise on the other side of the Spectrum we have Ui and Nana seeing little trade volume, and the always stable Miocoin is also worth a mention. Pick your poison.

>> No.3024632

If you add hourly adjustments I am quitting this game.

>> No.3024637

Yeah tell me I guess?
I'm still on process of selling her tho.

>> No.3024640

How about inactive players? Do you plan to do anything to reuse their coins or something?

>> No.3024656

What if they come back?

>> No.3024685

Is there a chance for me to be on Oshi leaderboard? Marine, Miko, and Flare seems have a big Oshi holder.

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>> No.3024722

It's kind of possible? I mean it'd involve changing constants for the equations for a few cycles and frankly writing that system when we're also trying to swap everything over to real time is just not worth it at the moment, sorry.
Not considering that, like I said there's issues with that and we don't want people to have to relog every hour to catch the most out of adjustments. If someone can come up with a viable system that makes it work and pleases everyone, then yes, but I don't see that as a distinct possibility.
Like anon above said, what if they come back? It's hard to think of a plan that makes sense there.
Also, regarding oshii-holding, I personally do want that to be an equally viable strategy, aside from just dividends. Any suggestions as to systems that would allow that? We've bounced around the idea of rewarding oshii-holders but the question becomes, what do we reward them with?
がんばって anon. I'm sure you can make it.

>> No.3024735

Don't worry I won't.
Her channel is dead, I want an active Hololive.

>> No.3024742

I'll spoonfeed you one, Noel is incredibly good value. She's not exactly stable, but she's an incredible investment overall.
Someone else recommended Marine, and she's an okay investment right now.

>> No.3024767

>is just not worth it at the moment
Makes sense, but something along the lines would be nice to stop the current "Buy dip, it moons to stupidly high values, sell for big cash (tanking the stock back to where it was) then buy the second dip until people get tired and hold at a stable price"

>> No.3024778

Sorry I was thinking of those hundreds of player that are around 5k. It would be retarded to start again from there.

>> No.3024796

Yeah, I'm keeping it in mind, I'll throw the idea at the other devs regarding the real-time market, perhaps making the 30-45 minutes afterwards less volatile.

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Marine seems to be what yfp invests in so even her oshiholder with the avatar has less than those 34

Mikochi? I'll be your enemy together with Elite Sakura Investments so you'd need 140k+ networth (current value)

Flare I've seen 70+ of

You'll need some luck in trading, you might have to buy a ton of non-oshicoin at some point. Do your best.

>> No.3024835

>what do we reward them with?
There was discussion about HQ ownership titles and things like that. It could freeze a part of your asserts for a period of time (whether it's going up or down). Or daily 0.5 ~ 3% gains based on how many coins you hold?

>> No.3024851

>We've bounced around the idea of rewarding oshii-holders but the question becomes, what do we reward them with?
You should probably just give them some kinda compounding dividend each week they hold x amount of a coin. Like holding idk 200 of a coin for 1 week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks, etc gives more than holding 50 of a coin, that way Gura oshifags don't just blow everyone else out of the water since her coin is more expensive to collect a lot of. It'd make cheap coins more competitive.

>> No.3024854

I think Homura is on Flare yes.

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he's the only one showing his Wallet, there's two others with the Icon, who knows what they hold.

>> No.3024884

>check the top 100
>nobody holds my Oshi in significant numbers
Okay, let's fucking go.

>> No.3024888

Having a volatility cap of $100 up/down for the first 30 minutes after adjustment could be good. They shouldn't be dropping $500 per cycle, that's just frustrating.

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I've yet to see someone with a cyrillic username go all in on Botan too, if anyone still needs Ideas.
Lion Leasing does her dirty by having a laughable 5 coins.

>> No.3024904

On top of tangible benefits, perhaps a different colored border around their Oshi's icon so you can see it on the leaderboard, and ideally for vanity a PNG of their oshi either in their profile screen or replacing the computer tako on the market screen.

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Stay the fuck away from Shion yo I'm calling dibs right now.

>> No.3024931

Something easy to do would be replacing the avatar picture with the oshi's twitter icon

>> No.3024948

>Dev asks for advice on how to make oshicoins viable as a method to make money
>Everyone suggests cosmetic ideas
learn to read you monkeys.

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>> No.3024974

Botan keeps going up and down too much, I always invest in Botan and always end up selling. Like today, I made nearly $1000 profit per coin on Botan. And I'll buy back in eventually.

>> No.3024990

Stacking coins for vanity purposes shouldn't give you a competitive advantage that pushes you to the top of the leaderboard. The most I'd do is adjust dividends of super uncompetitive choices like Towa or Flare to make up for the lost ground, so Towatards aren't making a pathetic 15-18% return but instead the 25% silver standard for returns.

>> No.3025013

>Stacking coins for vanity purposes shouldn't give you a competitive advantage that pushes you to the top of the leaderboard
It shouldn't make a massive difference, but it should reward you. This isn't a real market, its a game about things people like. People should be rewarded for being dedicated

>> No.3025024

I want to hold Flare for the loss of potential revenue! That is true love unlike Gura holders...

>> No.3025043

They should just add her current channel since she did a public stream just a couple days ago.
I don't think it should be the meta way to play but I think there should be some strategy where stacking coins is beneficial, and it shouldn't lose you money the way holding Civia currently does.

>> No.3025055

I am still all in with my idea of one of a kind "collectibles" being auction off by the devs that can be displayed in your profile display case or something. End game content i guess

>will give bragging rights, don't even need to have any buffs or anything
>will take money off the economy by millions if done right

>> No.3025061

Devchama, add Aria please.

>> No.3025069

Devchama add nabi mama please

>> No.3025073

Civia is a special case though, her channel is dead so why reward that? Stack other holos and moon

>> No.3025074

Devchama freeze selling on Risu please.

>> No.3025080

Civia has reincarnated too but her old channel is in this game, and I want to buy Aloecoin, not green triangle coin since she isn't hololive.

>> No.3025089

Oshicoining is about autistically buying your oshi despite it basically hindering your potential revenue inflow because your oshi gives dogshit dividend and, you know, opportunity cost. Adding incentives to oshicoin removes the glory of having to make extremely aggressive trades just to keep up or beat non-oshi devoted traders.

>> No.3025092

If that's the case then they should remove her coin. Either a coin should be viable or it shouldn't exist.
Technically they could probably find a way to scrape bilibili and tie it to her current channel but it probably isn't worth the effort.

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Not quite sure about the HQ ownership tiles, you mean like fixed priced assets you could purchase of your oshii? Essentially like cash, but oshi themed? Also, daily gains would be nice but I'd have to question if it'd work considering people would likely just buy the most expensive coins and hold those. Maybe just have a flat rate based on the mean coin price that everybody gets, regardless of oshi.
Compounding interest would be nice but the question is how to determine how long the person has held for. If it's just by how old the oldest coin is, then people would just never sell their last coin of each kind. If it's by average there'd be something there to work with I think, though it means if you buy a crapton of your oshi in a short period of time, how would we adjust the interest rate then?
Yeah, we've been talking about implementing a volatility cap. It'd probably be good especially since during that period it doesn't usually reward the people who considered all the factors about the Holo behind the coin, but those who see the price and have a good internet connection. I don't know about a strict absolute limit though, may do it based on a percentage.
Yeah, we're in the planning stages of cosmetic benefits you could purchase. I'll write these down.
Anon, if they want to spend money on cosmetics, they're free to do so. Calm down, I'm sure if they have ideas about how to ensure the viability of oshicoins they'll say them.
Anon, it's time to let go... I'll bring it up to the other devs though.
But the market is about Holos and I do want to make sure anons loyal to their oshi are rewarded somehow. Honestly, it's hard to balance the decisions around the game between acting like a market but also making it about Hololive.
In due time, IPOs are being phased in slowly, we don't want to run out of them.

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>> No.3025113

What happens if I'm the majority holder of two coins?
Let's say, hypothetically, I have 50 Azki and 50 Mel. Do I get both of them as my "oshi"?

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>holo nfts
Good one anon

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>> No.3025135

Imagine being the top holder in all leaderboards

>> No.3025155

>Compounding interest would be nice but the question is how to determine how long the person has held for. If it's just by how old the oldest coin is, then people would just never sell their last coin of each kind. If it's by average there'd be something there to work with I think, though it means if you buy a crapton of your oshi in a short period of time, how would we adjust the interest rate then?
Just have it keep track of how many of a coin they held during their last dividend payment. If they ever go below that number during the week than it resets the interest immediately. New coins' interest isn't calculated until the next week's dividend so it only has to update once a week.
This is imperfect and would heavily discourage selling oshicoins at all, but it's probably the least resource intensive way to do it?

>> No.3025173

How exactly are IPO's implemented? Is there a default starting price or do you have an algorithm that determines it based on channel size?

>> No.3025186

>fixed priced assets you could purchase of your oshii?
Bonds when? They'd give something like a 5-10% higher return than a Dividend, but they have to be purchased Saturday (before Sunday's daily adjustment) and cannot be sold the entire week, being automatically paid out the next Saturday at/around Dividend time at which time you can either sell them (and free up the capital) or hold them for next week.
Essentially super dividends, but your money is locked into them whereas with a regular stock you can sell it to free up money for a play like Risu.
I'm not sure how I'd determine Bond value though, I feel like I'd sell them at a fixed price independent of how many people buy/sell them based off dividend performance. If dividends are high, bonds are high. If dividends are low, bonds are low. And maybe have bonds mature, so they start out at 5% more than weekly dividends but each week you hold them they pay out more and more until they cap out.

>> No.3025199

My only concern with collectibles is that money compounds, so if you buy a collectible you could easily permanently gimp yourself and never end up anywhere decent on the leaderboard. Meanwhile eventually the top 10 will have so much money they can easily outbid you without hurting themselves too much.
I feel like we place too much importance on the leaderboard honestly.

>> No.3025238

We have an algo that determines things based on channel performance and we'll start the market off there. Then it's final price is up to anons, we are considering to put into place a system that caps that for x-amount of coins, but the issue is we're running close to the deadline and we don't want to implement a system so close to the deadline and figure out how to get it all working right.
I'll write that down, as the game matures we'll start adding in more financial instruments but right now we do want to make sure our basic stock economy works in a way that people understand intuitively and like.
Leaderboard is there if you want it, but as we bring in the new update with oshiboards we want to bring it back and be more about the Holos. Obviously leaderboard autism is there if you want it, but we want people to have alternate metrics to base their success off of as well.

>> No.3025283

I don't know if this will sound stupid, but I'd like at least some collectibles to be based off net worth milestones without subtracting any money from your account. i.e. you hit 100k for the first time and you get to choose a cosmetic as a reward for reaching the big boy's club without immediately dumpstering yourself back into 5 digits.
Once per account, so when you hit 100k you get said cosmetic and that's it, you can't unlock it again by cheating the system. Maybe the other choices you didn't pick would be available in the store for actual monetary purchase and you'd have to shill out your cold hard net worth to get them, but it should be possible to deck yourself out without tanking your life savings.

>> No.3025311

Impossible business idea: some sort of reward for being a long-term member of the actual Youtube channels (i.e. 1 year member of Mio, 6 month member of Botan)

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Dev-chamas, I am going into ML, and I need only your strongest API.
SEC report here: https://files.catbox.moe/5zndi7.pdf

>> No.3025334

I'm sure it's possible directly with the API but that would mean tying a botnet account to the 4channel hacker.

>> No.3025354

I'd almost rather have it be "take a picture of all of your member badges, compile it and send it in for verification" but unless it can be done by a smart automated system I imagine it'd be a real hassle for the devs to have to deal with a constant influx of "heres my 2 month membership to Gura lol"

>> No.3025366

>Mogu 1m celebration stream

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>> No.3025437

Time to buy ayame?

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If this was a week ago Risu would still be 4k.

>> No.3025466

>I'm off again today, but I'll be back tomorrow with more!
Do not buy today, but definitely buy the dip.

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>> No.3025468

>New costume for a girl that streams Apex once a week using a static image and then fucks off to shit her diapers.

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>> No.3025508

>May 2nd
You have time, don't buy Ayame too heavily. Let adjustments take her down and accumulate 2-3 every day.

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Imagine how much SC and view she will get

>> No.3025558

She's absolutely worth accumulating, but she adjusted by $0 today which means she's overvalued and should ideally adjust downwards tomorrow. Her dividends aren't very good so if she reaches too high a price you'll have to hold and get shit dividends, but it is worth buying a few per day to avoid the bloodbath that is people trying to buy on Saturday after divivies pay out.

>> No.3025623

CEO OF SEX will make it

>> No.3025630

Actually disregard that Ayame might be a good buy today, she made some posts earlier about singing so she could very well adjust slightly upwards or stay at a fixed price for the 29th. Hopefully she'll then tank on the 30th.

>> No.3025636

Kanata WILL hit 5k today

>> No.3025657

Buying Kanata pisses me off, this shit is so fucking overpriced but I know it's going to go up again.

>> No.3025676

>Kanata will go up
What are we basing this on?

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>> No.3025701

Wild how everyone has their day. First it was Risu holders, now it's CEO of Sex with his like 110 Ayame shares.

>> No.3025736

What makes Weyland merge with Ayunda Financial? What sort of technology do they possess that makes Sir Peter Weyland be interested in the treerat?

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unironically she'll only be going up in stability since as a musician channel all the autogenerated song links from Youtube Music feed directly into her channel viewership, so you get good adjustment and divs even when she takes days off, but you can grab her more cheaply than Marine/Gura on the usual

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Weyland must be NUTS, it's only down from here.

>> No.3025821

My boy also makes my dick big ups, wish she'd put her 5 foot scythe in me GUH

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She cute. Although after todays devastating post-earnings losses I suspect Ayunda Financial is getting mothballed.

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Risu still around 2.9k, should have bought more.

>> No.3026116

Unfortunately I'm not into Mori. She is definitely great person but her character and music is the exact opposite of what I like.

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>> No.3026231

Two cute Matsuri blessings the moment she started streaming, BUY BUY BUY

>> No.3026245

Matsuri? Sorry, I don't buy desperate degenerate whores

>> No.3026307

She's sneezing and sniffling you are absolutely missing out, this is peak Matsuri appeal.

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Are you ready for the ultra-fast trading economy?

>> No.3026402

>oshi goes up
>can't afford as many

>> No.3026898

When is it going to get merged?

>> No.3026910

The announcement says this weekend.

>> No.3026918

It also says:
>Until we're ready to release that, please enjoy the new features coming this weekend
Which makes me think that it's not actually going to arrive this weekend.

>> No.3026926

Oh yeah I can't read. Thanks for pointing it out.

>> No.3027349

Kanata to 5k before adjustment!

>> No.3027389

I hate literally everyone who buys Kanata
Also what the fuck did she even announce

>> No.3027602

>Miko ragequit her stream

>> No.3027796

Alright Soratomo chads, it's finally our time.

>> No.3027913

> he doesn't know

>> No.3027928

Kek is actually falling down

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t. Guy who bought too much Towa, too much Okayu and too much Coco

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>New Ayame costume
>Board of Directors update soon

>> No.3028315

finally sold all my risu. thank you treerrat for the profit. who next to pump frens?

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>> No.3028343

the raw gigachad energy one exudes from doing so

>> No.3028378

Risu, unironically

>> No.3028419

are you planning something again risu?

>> No.3028461

Just think about it for a while anonchama

>> No.3028719

Nah I already sold all of Risu when she's around 2.8k and also sold half of my coco when she got adjusted second time which help me immensely.

>> No.3028789

What's the endgame, you think her meme shorts will be a steady stream and that adjustments are average and not compared to previous day?

>> No.3028981

Aqua just confirmed a stream expect a massive spike, probably going to 3200~

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be warned. risu will drop 100 meme vids for nasfaq superiority.

>> No.3029118

well yeah her ip is somewhere in this thread

>> No.3029127

There is no way risu is gonna pull a Coco and adjust up after being dumped.

>> No.3029156

anon you're supposed to accumulate and let others who do their twitter reps accumulate before letting the rest of the thread pump your bags, she literally tweeted this out less than 10 minutes ago

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>official shitcoin rigging

>> No.3029188

I'm not buying a single Aqua so I'd rather post it and laugh at the mad rat race.

>> No.3029242

>laughing while missing out on profits
you're a bizarre person anon

>> No.3029421

I just want to watch the stock market burn.

>> No.3029639

I think I've got the overall weighting of adjustments down. The only weighting I need to figure out is shares but that probably won't be too hard and can be done on a little instinct.

>> No.3029723

Anon, your efforts may be going to waste... the devs announced there's going to be another new adjustment system sometime soon. Perhaps you'll be able to use what you figured out for a week?

>> No.3029900

It said a new daily adjustment system, that doesn't exactly imply a new algo. It could be anything to the system really. Even if they do modify the algo, I don't think the general weightings will change too much. Any minor changes I can reweigh in my head and keep going.

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And now we are going down

>> No.3030406

Probably a smart decision to sell now, if she gets less views than yesterday, I find it likely that a coco can happen and instead of covering ground back up, she'll go all the way back down $500 dollars and then some. She's currently definitely not worth 2100. It might be fine to keep a couple though, just buy her when she dips.

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Load the dip.

>> No.3030637

It should go down a bunch over the next few days hopefully. We have TIME to accumulate and there's no need to fuck others over when we have adjustments to drop the price for us.

>> No.3030663

If you want cold hard worth, Ayame is worth about 1500.
She's overinflated right now but it's not TOO bad especially if you bought on the way up and not at the top.

>> No.3030770

Just thought about it a little more, and actually for those who have the time, there appears to be 2 people who are desperate for ayame to go up. Wait until they bring her price all the way up then you can dump it on them. In the end it's whoever's buying her right now who loses, not you.
Pretty much, if you got in early, there's no need to worry too much

>> No.3030790

clinically retarded onion spoils video, removes it after everyone finds out

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Almost everything is over-inflated. But don't worry, I'm slowly inflating the price of things that aren't yet.

>> No.3030930

>buying Aqua

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Hopefully Onion scheduled a Monhun after this karaoke.

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Towa isn't streaming today. Sell.

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Never bought her in the first place.
Why should I bought a

>> No.3031697

NASFAQ is slowly turning me into a Soratomo.

>> No.3031943

anything still in the 1000s is ripe to go up over 2k. Morning adjustments show most anons buy right back to the point pre-adjustment anyways, sometimes before an event overbuying happens right after.

There is rarely over-selling. Because it would be dumb to sell at a loss in this game, just hold until some adjustment raises the bag for you. Sure your muh numbers will look bad for 2-3 days but selling at a loss is the ONLY way to lose money in this game.

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