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A thread for 潤羽るしあ, みけねこ and 飴宮なずな

Previous Thread: >>30133493

>> No.30184262
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>Mikeneko
Twitter: https://twitter.com/95rn16
Fanbox: https://mikenekoko.fanbox.cc/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC54JqsuIbMw_d1Ieb4hjKoQ
Twitcasting: https://twitcasting.tv/95rn16
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikeneko.x/
Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@minyan84

>Nazuna Amemiya
Profile: https://www.vshojo.com/talent/nazuna
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5gs8EbpwbfQvrhizJx60TA
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna

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Remember, love your wife, don't bite bait. And yes, giving a snarky comment without (You)ing is still biting.

>> No.30184288
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Vshojo hate, Twitch hate
Rushia love, Mikeneko love

>> No.30184321
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>>30183869
I see. Is she even a twitch partner yet? Maybe vshojo staff haven't triggered it on for her or something?

Man, this is gonna bug the hell out of me till I know what is concerning her. Maybe I shouldn't of listened to the twitcraft but you guys are saying it's more than enough.

Maybe she's living above her means? Add in her being irritable because of her running nose and stuff.

>> No.30184377

>>30184321
her twitcast had nothing to do with Nazuna, just some idiot bothering her again

>> No.30184388

>>30184225
thank you, I actually had to click the vshojo thread and nearly posted in it earlier

>> No.30184473

>>30184377
Oh. The 50 something year old man again?

>> No.30184489

>>30184321
we've been over this anon: https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/achievements?language=en_US#Partner

she can't be a partner until she finishes all that crap

>> No.30184523

>>30184266
This is baiyxjt

>> No.30184540

Being partnered would seal her fate on twitchcancer so let's hope not

>> No.30184542

>>30184473
nah, some YT channel is talking shit about her and VTubing in general

>> No.30184607

>>30184489 (me)
so judging by the reqs, she needs at least 1 more day of streaming to qualify. the actual application and contract then needs to be negotiated with twitch

>>30184540
depends on the contract negotiation, and from past discussions it seems like it usually just prevents SIMULCAST on twitch and yt at the same time, not no casting at all on yt

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>>30184016
That's what I thought too. She's got all that. If she's unhappy all she gotta d is climb on MIkeneko with YouTube.

Maybe that's it. The lawyer.

>>30184489
You got the wrong anon man. First time I am seeing this. And seeing light mode in awhile. omg my fuckin eyes.

>> No.30184733

Discount kanata

>> No.30184787

>>30184542
Ah forgot about that. Think somebody in the cast comments posted it.

>> No.30184897

>>30184644
lol, sorry about the light mode, it also hurts me as a programmer that lives in the dark

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8 twitch streams so far out of 12. So 4 to go. Everything else has been easily completed. It also says it must be done within 30 days. It's close to an entire month since her "debut." Hope Vshojo has let her know about this.

>> No.30185273

Does anyone have any info on what she’s saying on her twitcast?

>> No.30185375

How was the sumabura stream?

>> No.30185395 [DELETED] 

>自分の所&他所のリスナーさんの支援スパチャネタにするのは普通に引く生涯関わりたくないし関わって欲しくないレベルですな。。

>スパチャしてる人の気持ちを考えて欲しい、、純粋に誰かを応援してるって素敵なこと。何も気にしないで欲しい所存ですす
>ねこち


>あの追記うるさくてごめんよ
>スパチャ系コメはとても目立つし、その言葉で支えられたり、たまに笑わせに来るコメとかで笑顔になったり、ちょっとプロレスしたり配信者目線からするとそんなやり取りが幸せなんよな

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>>30185375
very fun, she got 4 wins

>> No.30185418

>>30185375
wife was smashed a lot, but she did manage to win a few games. she also constantly tried to hit on all the female characters

>> No.30185568

>>30185395
Very nice activities "fan"
I bet you consider yourself better than her antis

>> No.30185599

>>30185273
Mostly complained about the group of bitches who keep harassing her and holo fans.

>> No.30185621

>>30185568
What are you talking about?

>> No.30185637

>>30185599
>bitches currently streaming to shit on Superchats that Holo girls get
>with Superchats enabled
You love to see it

>> No.30185640

>>30185395
>sharing her sab tweets
Fuck you

>> No.30185645

>>30184288
Twitch is based. Seethe all you want.
The sole problem are gold diggers, bikini sluts, chat spammers, cringe sound alerts, youtube-leeching meta, oppressive mods, faggots-friendly emotes, amazon, and the deer-girl "safety council" freak.

Ok twitch isn't based.

>> No.30185773

>>30185182
She is 11 for 12, Twitch has deleted the first vods.
Debut, 2 apex, 1 fall guys, stray, toreba, 2 minecraft, whatchparty, Tsugunohi, Smash

>> No.30185811

>>30185640
No fuck you you piece of shit retarded dumb fuck. You're obviously too fucking stupid to get why I posted it. Take your gatekeeping mf ass elsewhere mf fake ass fan.

This is for genuine people (unlike you) who support her and want to know what she's saying in which this is being posted publicly.

>> No.30185867

>>30185811
If they care, they'd already be following the sub. She clearly doesn't want every random to see what's on there right now because it's locked, so respect that.

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第三世代は最強!!!

>> No.30185934

>>30184733
Kanata : pretends to have the jewflue for 40 days because she doesn't dare asking for a break.

Nazuna : streams in spite of her allergies and runny nose like a chad.

>> No.30185949

>>30185599
>>30185637
Are you mad with jealousy and envious about it? Maybe they're fembots with a masculine spirit who want women to stand up for themselves like they do here in the west?

>> No.30186093

>>30185811
You're not only sharing it between fans anon, your sharing it on 4chan where everyone can get and translate it retard.

>> No.30186105

Why are you fandeads so easy to bait like your oshi
Ffs stop biting

>> No.30186110

https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1555899790340534273
◥̆̈◤࿉∥<ウドーン

>> No.30186117

>>30185811
anon, at least pastebin it with a password obvious to fans then. otherwise you're causing trouble for her

>> No.30186139

If you're not following her sub you're not her fan

>> No.30186338

>>30185811
Gonna send a balan balan to watch you sleep you dumb fuck, keep your curtains open.

>> No.30186462

>>30186338
May you and your entire family be wiped off the Earth piece of shit.

>> No.30186472

>>30186139
>following

But anon, I've been banned twice from twatter for calling out the jews and can't follow anyone no more.

>> No.30186562

>>30185867
>>30186093
The fucking OP has her cast address linked. These discussions are had there. You're talkin about fuckin anti's who are willing to pay real money for their actions.

Furthermore, do you wanna know how I found that? Through Mikeneko.

>> No.30186676

>>30186462
May you live a long life but with an uncureable itch right at the spot where you can't reach it paddy feeder.

>> No.30186834

>>30186562
If you can't understand something as simple as "Don't share stuff which is locked behind something", I can't help you.

>> No.30186888

>>30185811
Gatekeeping is necessary. The only people not following the sab when this is the third time she's locked it in less than 4 months are tourists and antis

>> No.30186927

>>30186676
You have no fucking clue who you're talking to in trying to curse me you fucking demon worshipping witch or sorcerer low life pile of dog shit. You also have no control over anybody's life span you dumb fuck. All you've done is that curse will be a blessing to me. Heathens are fucking dumb.

>> No.30187014

>>30186562
Anon, there is very much a difference between a Twitcast where you'd have to pay money to get into and a locked sub. You have a chance to get into the Twitcast once you pay, you have no chance of getting into the sab since it's locked and even then we barely talk about the members stuff out of respect for her.

>> No.30187116

https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1555904630483484673

>> No.30187173

>>30186834
I specifically just told you dumb ass. The OP has her cast address. They can literally pay to listen to lthe VOD's. Do you get it yet? They more than ikely already have the information if somebody like me who barely just opened a fucking twitter account last week and still doesn't know the ins and outs found the sab without even looking for it.

>>30186888
Grab a vocal audio from the cast where she said what you're saying, thank you.

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>>30187116
cute!

>> No.30187313

>>30187173
You're not a fan
Just leave already
She's thrown sad fits multiple times over things being shared or discussed in public

>> No.30187362

>>30187173
That's not a reason to start leaking whatever the hell you like. Why make things easier for them? And I turn your own scenario back on you, if even someone like you can find and follow her sub, why the hell should people who are her "fans" but so lazy that they can't do something that simple be spoonfed locked tweets, which also then has the side effect of antis not even needing to bother paying for anything to get access to information?

>> No.30187513

I overslept completely... What happened at the start of the stream? She accidentally started a fucking twitcast with nazuna on her "roommate" account? That's actually hilarious
I love my retarded wife

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>>30187513
pretty much
cute pon wife

>> No.30187731

>>30187513
She's not retarded. She's a genius with high IQ

>> No.30187746

>>30187513
I thought she'd decided to cancel smashing her

>> No.30187751

>>30187014
Way to go on not reading exactly what I wrote concerning the cast. These anti's are sick pieces of garbage. If they were willing to pay money to spam her with SC to talk shit they'll do it to her as well on the JP side. Particularly if you or any of you retards read the fucking anti's on her Mikeneko youtube page and her chat and during her streams the extent they will go to.

You guys are weak ass white knight's talking this shit on 4chan of all places as if you're protecting a fragile little girl when she is a strong woman. I am also not the only one that has provided comments from her on here nor will I be the last one.

You also want to deprive people who don't know and may wanna know and read or try to read her words to those who support her and I say fuck you you selfish having mf.

>> No.30187781

>>30187731
She's a cunning manipulator who bewitches the hearts of men

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>> No.30187829

>>30187751
ok anti-kun

>> No.30187888

>>30187751(You)
When Vshojo sends their posters, they're not bringing their best

>> No.30187983

>>30187751
>he thinks he's doing people a favor
>when she has already sent us to mass report screenshotters
You'll never amount to anything while at 14000 rupees to a US dollar other than by working on that palm oil, so chop chop and fuck off so you can tap tap earlier in the morning you wannabe e-celeb.

>> No.30188034

Ksonfag tourist here id like to apologize in advance but my oshi has been sending nazuna alot of bad kusoge to play

>> No.30188065

>>30187829
Do you even know what an anti is? btw, I'm a fandead of over 2 years. Just provide me with her voice saying what you've claimed her to say. Otherwise stfu.

>>30187888
Too bad for you I don't watch any of them besides Nazuna.

>> No.30188140

>>30188065
All I'm saying is there's a reason why the sub twitter is locked right now. You're being particularly selfish yourself by placing complete newfags above her own feelings on the matter which you should be more than aware of by now if you really are a fandead of over 2 years, which makes you no better than an anti leaking it because they know she doesn't want it to be leaked, so don't be surprised when people treat you like an anti. End of conversation.

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>>30188034
can't wait
surely they can't be worse than tsugunohi

>> No.30188214

>>30188034
That's fine, though I don't know if she can bother learning multiple games to play through them that quickly.

>> No.30188269

>>30187983
>You'll never amount to anything while at 14000 rupees to a US dollar other than by working on that palm oil, so chop chop and fuck off so you can tap tap earlier in the morning you wannabe e-celeb.

Can you make coherent sense out of the lack of what is your comment? If I am to understand a little of it I live in the USA and I am not white. I'm indigenous.

>> No.30188397

>>30188034
>>30188189
After she played that game she played apex if that means anything. I'd like her to play Resident Evil and Silent Hill since she's into horror.

>> No.30188574

>>30188397
I wonder how she'd fair playing Alien Isolation.

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so have we apologized yet? where are we standing on that issue?

>> No.30189007

>>30188140
That's not what some anon's have theorized on here. They've said the lock might be an indication about her DM's. Whether that is true or not I don't know. Don't create a fucking straw man for you to beat on where no where in my post did I indicate strictly for new folks. I specifically wrote exactly as I laid it out.

As for your dumb ass to question me about being a fandead of over 2 years and quick to call me a fuckin anti because you didn't want anybody to read her comments above which was sweet and kind to her supporters.

Further, your conjecture means nothing to me. Your weak ass argument is getting thinner and thinner since you were not able to provide me with clear and concise evidence of her speaking on the matter you and other idiot anons are spewing. Take your head out of your ass wanna be white knight. Stop treating her as if she's a weak fragile woman with the exception of her physical body.

>> No.30189037

>>30188916
I'm glad she's happy, but part of me will always wish I could live in the timeline where the yab never happened

>> No.30189130

>>30188916
Let's wait and see what happens after she has twitch partner. She is real close to getting it.

>> No.30189142

>>30189007
>fandead of over 2 years
>didn't have twitter til a week ago
???

>> No.30189201

>>30188574
I'd think she'd be up for it. Anything with horror she's into.

>> No.30189262

>>30189142
What's your issue now?

>> No.30189346

Wake up fandeads, nekofamis, lolipops. Take my hand. I will save you

>> No.30189529

>>30189037
I think she wants to live in that timeline too…

>> No.30189622

By Allah I curse this thread! Begone witches!

>> No.30189698

>>30189201
There's a bunch that I'd recommend to her but most involve space and I don't want to give her astrophobia.

>> No.30189718 [DELETED] 

>>30189529
Yeah lives in a timeline when she can date mafumafu and pretend to be a girlfriend to her fans

>> No.30189747

>>30187751
Not a single soul has ever thanked you for your "service" and multiple have called you out for being a retard. You're just too far up your ass to realize you're unnecessary.

>> No.30189913

>>30189747
He probably also creates bait threads to spread the word

>> No.30190157

Can we all agree that Mike is damage controlling by tweeting that because she made a yab and is scared management will take action (which i don’t blame her for after all that suffering). I just don’t see her being that grateful to vshojo yet because she she doesn’t really interact with her senpai. Of course no offense toward vshojo.

>> No.30190173

>>30189718
Fuck off anti

>> No.30190274

>>30190157
>I just don’t see her being that grateful to vshojo yet because she she doesn’t really interact with her senpai. Of course no offense toward vshojo.
https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1555904630483484673
Ogey

>> No.30190291

what an awful thread
you guys really need to learn how to not respond to bait

>> No.30190370

>>30190291
No! We shall be like sharks! Because sharks eat everything! Gawwrrrr!

>> No.30190393

>>30190157
Well she could be thankful they have her some resemblance of her old life back.

>> No.30190419

>>30190274
Yeah, that’s ”the tweet” i’m talking about. It’s damage control because of her yab today when she accidentally went live on twitcast as nazuna

>> No.30190418

>>30190291
We knew and then forgot
The thread grew progressively and progressively more retarded over time

>> No.30190529

>>30190419
Almost 100% guarantee VShojo doesn't give a shit about that. She could have just joined VShojo as Mikeneko if she really wanted to.
Guarantee you could poke around their general to confirm with regulars, but management won't give two shits about this. If anything, it's free advertisement for Nazuna

>> No.30190539

>>30189747
Hey mental retard. No where in any of my posts was my reasoning to post her comments to receive something of an ego boost such as a thank you. I am not you a worthless wretched dog. Don't mistake me for you. Fuckin pathetic with your cheap ass projection you sick deluded bitch.

You can jump on previous threads with other anon's having done the same thing as I have. I fucking hate white knights. You freaks are so fuckin fake.

>> No.30190573

I'd guess that it's more likely to be the opposite.
She just appreciates a management that tells her not to worry about stuff like that.

>> No.30190597

>>30190157
Give her time shes just suffering ptsd understadably
None of vshojo is forcing her lncluding mouse who is a unityfag pushy extrovert collab monster and kson who she has known for ages are patiently waiting for her to step out of her shell

>> No.30190625

>>30189913
You sound as if you have experience in that. Unlike you I don't waste my time on petty shit like that.

>> No.30190632

>>30190539
>reeeeeee i'm retarded pay attention to me moar

>> No.30190637

Honestly it seems a bit cruel a sankisei anniversary where Rushia is forced to be excluded from. I hope she’s not watching it.

>> No.30190643

>>30190157
>she doesn’t really interact with her senpai
Not on stream, but that's just the usual don't collab yet thing. She definitely friendly with mouse and nyanners atleast.

>> No.30190691

>>30190539
Hey 2-year fandead, mind telling me what tweet this post was referring to?
>>>/jp/40348743

>> No.30190839

>>30190573
I think at this point whoever they have looking after her knows exactly how bad she is with tech stuff

>> No.30190874

>>30190157
She just needs sometime to get more comfortable with her fanbase again since some are new mixed in with the old. Also, she's done the yab twice.

>> No.30191092

>>30190691
Hey I have a better idea. Why don't you explain it yourself? Since you're the one whose bringing it up and sourcing whatever it is from another website. I'm not your fucking pet, bitch.

>> No.30191156

>>30190632
Is that your way of getting my attention? If you're a female that's fine but if you're a male I despise faggots.

>> No.30191158

>>30191092
Nah, cause then I'd be leaking posts like you. All I'll say is this; 鍵アカ公開はプライバシー侵害に. You should know what that means.

>> No.30191186

>>30191092
If you're a fandead for 2 years post your username and twitter

>> No.30191320

>>30191186
>Dox yourself.
Low intelligence.

>> No.30191370

>>30191320
It's thread tradition but you're a newfag so you wouldn't know

>> No.30191393

I don't even feel anger when retards bite bait anymore, just disappointment

>> No.30191440

>>30190157
vshojo has a member who is infamous for her terrible opsec that resulted in her self doxxing repeatedly and it just became a funny meme / unofficial part of her lore, the management couldn't care less

>> No.30191486

>>30191158
You're one stupid mf. If I was able to find it without looking for it anybody can find it. It out in the public you dumb fuckin retard.

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I really wish I didn’t have to do this every thread

>> No.30191561

>>30191370
>It's thread tradition but you're a newfag so you wouldn't know
Even lower in intelligence than I first thought.

>> No.30191713

>>30191486
You can just admit you weren't here on the 29th of June 2022 to understand the context, it's okay Mr. "2 year fandead". If you weren't deliberately being obtuse about it, surely you'd be able to remember something that happened barely a month ago, right?

>> No.30191761

Can you two be mentally ill in some other thread?

>> No.30191782

Hey guys, It’s a little embarrassing but I am currently touching myself to you guys arguing here. I am from /vsj+/ and our schizos are so lame when insulting eachother, oh but you guys on the otherhand. You have such aggressive and striking wordplay, you don’t autistically fit as many insults in your posts as possible. God you’re such manly and well-spoken men I want you to eifel tower me as you’re fighting. It’s so attractive i can’t stop stroking my dick to it. Your posts they are so precious. You guys are the fine wine of posters. I will always worship you over anyone in my own thread

>> No.30191783

>>30191761
It's alright, I've proved my point.

>> No.30191785

>>30191487
AAAAAAAA NOT THE WATERRRRR

>> No.30191971

>>30191782
.....Frootposter? Are you here to ravage my right bussy? The one I'm reserving for Nazuna's dragon cock strap-on?

>> No.30191976

>>30191782
Stop going to 4ch nyanners

>> No.30192016

>>30191713
I don't give a fuck what you believe nor prove anything to spit.

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I LOVE MY WIFE I LOVE MY WIFE I LOVE MY WIFE I LOVE MY WIFE I LOVE MY WIFE I LOVE MY WIFE I LOVE MY WIFE I LOVE MY WIFE

>> No.30192176

>>30191783
>It's alright, I've proved my point.
Prove what exactly? Take your fucking opium drugs and kill yourself with it.

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I LOVE HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.30192311

>>30190157
They don't care, she's not in trouble.

>> No.30192358

>>30191971
Hehe no i’ll never meet the standards of frootposter-senpai’s eroticism but it’s a nice compliment

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POV : Cover management responsible for firing Rushi over investissors endangerment watching sankisei anniversary.

>> No.30192794

>>30188916
It's too early to judge. No collabs and barely any interaction. No one else speaks Japanese except Kson and there is a cultural barrier. Nazuna still treats Vshojo as Hololive and twitch as YouTube.
I really, really want NazunaMiko to find her place and be happy in Vshojo. This whole situation is making me anxious. Maybe they would hire more JP members, 2 is way too lonely.

>> No.30192878

>>30192794
At least like 4 or 5 JP members would be nice I think

>> No.30192926

>>30190419
Is it really a yab if Nazuna is her own IP... VS isnt gonna do anything about it. Well given past issues i can see how she could think its a yab when it isnt...

>> No.30193054

>>30190419
Alright, I checked with their general. They have one member who yabs so often on the wrong account that it's become a recurring joke among the VShojo girls. There's a less than zero chance that staff gives a shit about Mike's pon

>> No.30193107

>>30192794
Mouse understands and speaks a bit of JP, Nyan can understand JP but cant really speak any...tho she has her bf cheat who can teach her, the rest dont know any at all. As far as collabs correct me if wrong but hasnt she basically applied the old corpo 30 day collab ban on her own volition.

>> No.30193137

>>30193054
I don't think this concept of needing to keep up the kayfabe is even a Vshojo thing, it's just something she specifically wants to do, I can't imagine VSJ staff ever giving a rat's ass about that.

>> No.30193141

i fell asleep during smash stream. catching up on the last thread and the baitfags (here).
is there a reason people started sperging out over Zen in the last thread? did that person show up on stream or something?

>> No.30193206

>>30193141
She just mentioned during the Smash stream that she occassionally watches Zen.
>thought the TTS was just Zen's cool voice with a good mic
Precious dumb wife

>> No.30193267

>>30193137
>t. have not watched anyones lore videos or anyone else outside of nazuna

>> No.30193350

>>30192926
I think it's the principle of keeping them separate from one another. She certainly thinks it's a yab because her Mario Kart stream with us was taken down and privated when she leaked Nazuna's background and music for 2-3 seconds. That video is still down on Mikeneko. Still shows her last stream was 3 months ago when it was actually 1-2 weeks ago.

>> No.30193368

>>30192878
They'll add more in time, of course. Obvious candidate are Delta and Uto, who else might want in?

>> No.30193401

>>30193206
ah, thanks for the quick and simpel response. Also not sure what people are arguing about atm. she seems in an alright mood and a little annoyed from her twitcast but that doesn't seem to be the center of the discussion atm. just gonna slide back into bed

>> No.30193473

>>30193267
I mean, yeah. What, do they try and hide who they are on their subs or something?

>> No.30193489

>>30193054
>their general
>their
it is your general now too, anon-chan

>> No.30193511

>>30193350
that didn't happen on the mario kart stream retard

>> No.30193553

>>30192358
Don't let it go to your head, I'm just not as familiar with how your thread regulars post yet.

>> No.30193597

>>30193350
Yeah this is what i’m concerned about. Her being really stressed anxious not knowing what to do after what she thinks is a yab. I bet she feels extra baka because it happened two times

>> No.30193617

>>30193511
Oh my bad dumb fuck. That was a different stream. I meant the guerilla karaoke stream.

>> No.30193644

>>30193350
>That video is still down on Mikeneko
Hahaha. Fuck off 邪推fag

>> No.30193705

>>30193350
she said the stream was gonna be privated before she showed the nazuna background

>> No.30193766

>>30193644
Do you even know what you're talking about?

>> No.30193806

I love her

>> No.30193844

>>30193705
Thanks for the correction. I forgot what went on with the Mario Kart stream.

>> No.30193850

>>30193473
Not hiding anything but sounded like you dismissed their characters

>> No.30193932

>>30193850
Oh no, I'm not saying they don't have characters or lore, I'm just saying that my impression was there's no pressure to keep it up, at least not in the way Nazuna goes about it.

>> No.30193946

>>30193766
Yup. Though looks like you didn't. >>30193617

>> No.30194032

>>30193806
I love you too Mafu

>> No.30194126

>fell asleep to my wifes voice
>wake up feeling good but a little sad because I couldn't reply immediately to the tweets
>open thread
>no longer sad
wow

>> No.30194128

>>30193932
Oh ok. Gomene, lack of sleep + autism

>> No.30194208

>>30193206
the tts making it easier for her to understand makes sense to me
>>30193932
she seems to have fun with the kayfabe

>> No.30194442

>>30193597
Shes so scared about things that nobody in vshojo would care about. Iirc she also scared of offending the others because her english is bad. She really needs to calm down and relax and realize shes safe now

>> No.30194455

>>30194208
Yeah, she has her own reasons for keeping up the kayfabe like she does, the main point I meant was that I don't feel like there would be any pressure from VSJ staff about it so I could never imagine them seeing what happened as anything more than just a funny little accident.

>> No.30194679

>>30193401
The argument was between fake wanna be white knights against me who're mad at failing to gatekeep comments she made to her fans that was suppose to be found on her super duper secret hard to find sub. Failing in every way to guilt trip while never producing any single evidence to what they were claiming proving only they were lying about everything while also claiming a fandead was an anti somehow for sharing her comments.

>> No.30194776

>>30194442
kson may of told her those things but her ptsd gets the better of her. She just needs time and hope that vshojo don't betray her like that black company did.

>> No.30194808

>>30194442
concept of audience reflects the streamer is golden here, her anxious paranoia probably ends up resembling this thread when it gets paranoid. Likewise, the only thing to do is wait and pray it gets over it before somebody does something retarded

>> No.30194893

>>30194679
literally everyone has been sharing stuff from the sab at times in previous threads so I don't see the issue. it's not like she says the word nigger on her sab or anything

>> No.30194949

>>30194776
Let’s not go that far. Cover is still a way better company than VShojo.

>> No.30195016

>>30194949
VShojo is kinda incompetent, but they wouldn't betray nazuna.

>> No.30195059

>>30194893
Apparently it was an issue when I did it on this thread. These retards are so fucking dumb didn't notice I never shared her actual sub as I figured out there was a reason why the other anon's were only quoting it and not providing the actual link to it as we do with Nazuna.

>> No.30195086

>>30195016
That is true

>> No.30195121

>>30194679
If you're sharing her sub tweets, you do remember when, after the second time she locked it(before disabling it, again for the second time), she literally posted an old screencap of hers describing why reposting content from locked accounts is against the rules, right? That was why she locked it back then too. She even started telling us to report people reposting it.

>> No.30195147

>still attention whoring
Shut the fuck up and step away from your computer already

>> No.30195248

>>30195086
Also they were a lot newer, a lot poorer and a lot smaller back then. Hopefully they've learnt from their fuck ups and become better.

>> No.30195287

>>30194949
That maybe the case but I will continue to call them that for firing her. They could of overlooked that shit and done something about the person or persons that was stressing her out.

Makes no sense why Ayame still got a job when her job is to stream but she hasn't been fired yet. So to me correct me if my thinking is off but if they're overlooking whatever is going on with Ayame they could of done the same with Rushia. She wouldn't of had to go through all that bs that is still on her right now.

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>> No.30195529

>cuts off her twitcast short saying she'll go to sleep
>instead is talking to males

>> No.30195597

Respond to the bait above and I will actually kill you.

>> No.30195633

I like Mike

>> No.30195641

Who is attentionwhoring?
>>30195415
BASED

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>>30195597
don't threaten me with a good time

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*responds to the bait above*
Your move

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>>30195736

>> No.30195783

>>30194949
VShojo never executed one of their talents

>> No.30195811

>>30195529
Yes she's talking to me. My wife is very cute

>> No.30195812

>>30195529
and just how do you know that

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>>30195811
>>30195812

>> No.30195877

>>30195812
>>30191487

>> No.30195894

>>30195812
he was peeping her window and saw her talking to me. I'll remember to close the blinds next time

>> No.30195936

>>30195783
They should though. Especially after veibae said that she ”doesn’t have patience for black people”

>> No.30195937

>>30195812
Because I know my cheating wife and what she does better than you do
>>30195811
Don't post on 4chan while you're streaming Apex

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30196037

So she ACTUALLY has white fever and puts us above japs
I wonder how her loyal JP fandeads are feeling about this

>> No.30196125

>>30195415
sauce?

>> No.30196131

>>30195287
The holomem who leaked Aloe’s identity wasn’t suspended for a single day for NDA breach. Neither was the one who ran to drama tuber Narukami and leaked that Mel was being harassed by a manager. Both cases used private company info to cause more harm to the company that Ru’s leak could ever dream of.

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>>30196037
No no no. You have it backwards

>> No.30196149

love wife

>> No.30196175

mutts law

>> No.30196178

>antichama trying to larp as a husband is the equivalent of orangutans bathing themselves with burger juices or sauerkraut hide heir true identities.

>> No.30196193 [DELETED] 

>>30196135
Or shall i say, blackwards

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30196198

Could one say that responding to bait is another form of bait in that it baits people to talk about people responding to bait? Am I responding to bait right now? Am I bait? Hmm.

>> No.30196226

>>30196178
it's all they have in life anon

>> No.30196228

>>30196178
You don't even know where your wife is
Seems like you don't love her enough

>> No.30196247

>>30196037
Probably because she was harassed by JP antis more than anyone else.
Of course she would prefer overseas fans over those insane schizos.

>> No.30196260

>>30196198
post moar wife fagit

>> No.30196307
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what drives a man to spend his saturday morning shitposting on 4chan?

>> No.30196330

>>30196037
They're going to be pissed when only the whites get invited to Hokkaido. I'm not in favor of racial discrimination, but it's just how it goes sometimes.

>> No.30196346

>>30195936
It's good to know Nazuna is free to be as racist as she wants in Vshojo.

>> No.30196381 [DELETED] 

>>30196307
If my wife cared more about streaming for me instead of talking to men behind my back I'd spend my life doing something better

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>>30196260

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>>30196228
I do, that's why I know you're lying

>> No.30196481

>>30196307
It's 10:30 pm in Jakarata so I wouldn't necessarily say the shitposters are posting in the morning.
>30196381
Mfw she literally just streamed for us earlier.

>> No.30196483 [DELETED] 

>>30196386
>lying
She's talking to a Japanese male and not you. Not sleeping like she said. Who's the liar here.

>> No.30196602

>>30196481
spending his saturday night antiposting isn't much better...
what a sad existence

>> No.30196622

>>30196483
she literally made a reply on nazuna before turning this on, try harder

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30196733

>shitposting with ksnk again
The idea of some subhuman SEAfriend watching some random faggot from Hokkaido's 2view stream hoping to see Mike post a few "good luck, do your best" before fucking off and rubbing his unwashed hands with glee about attempting to bait the thread on /vt/ about it is kind of funny but extremely sad.

>> No.30196767

>>30196733
I want to suck those fingers

>> No.30196790

>>30196733
My wife's cute feet...

>> No.30196812

>>30196037
https://youtu.be/qX04TTFblxA

>> No.30196879

Do you guys think that Mike would pledge her loyalty and go all on being in a relationship with her fans if she didn’t get fired from hololive. I can’t technically say that mafumafu was wrong. In the same way that ethan Klein said that he can’t say that hitler was wrong because he met his wife at a holocaust museum. This destiny. All pain and suffering was worth for it in the end. I wouldn’t go back if it meant that i lost what i have right now. I love her more now than ever.

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I miss my necromancer.

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>>30196812
Hello

>> No.30196923

>>30196733
soon she will be married in hokkaido too
to me

>> No.30196963

>>30196923
She's already married to me Anon, we'll just be moving to Hokkaido soon.

>> No.30196988

>>30196879
She loved us back then too anon
I don't want her to be in pain like this

>> No.30197054

Anyone have "don't leave me" Nazuna pic?

>> No.30197079

>>30196733
First you say it's just a do your best what's the worst it can be. Then with this stream it's just he's complimenting her excessively as a friend. Then it's just them playing Apex behind the scenes. Then it's he's a nice guy, I support their relationship.

>> No.30197081

the funny part about this ksnk shit is that it literally proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that shitposterkun never watched mikenekos casts prior to the yab

>> No.30197115

>>30196879
Actually Cover would be hitler in this analogy. But, regardless….

>> No.30197117

>>30196963
Polygamy exists, fellow husband. She is 'our' wife now.

>> No.30197152

>>30197079
>headcanon
learn japanese

>> No.30197193

>>30197152
褒めすぎちゃった
him about 10 minutes ago

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>>30197054
this one?

>> No.30197362

Am I the only one who's been thinking about how many of us are going to actually get to go to Hokkaido? I mean, we have the death tournament meme, but she'd never actually approve of that. But she just has too many fans for even her absolute most dedicated husbands to have equal and fair access. We're not all going to make it, bros.

>> No.30197367

>>30196988
That’s true, but now that i am seeing a bright future for her, I can’t help but feel this way about her. It feels like it was meant to be this way. Like she wouldn’t be the person she is today if that one Discord message didn’t show up on the screen.

>> No.30197414

>>30197367
She was going to get fired anyway from talking to Narukami you retard. It was inevitable

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>>30197362
many of you will meet unfortunate "accidents", don't worry

>> No.30197465

>>30197414
No she wouldn’t. She talked to him because of the shit the DM stirred

>> No.30197544

>>30197362
It's gonna be like the Shaman Fight from Shaman King. If you can't make it to the tournament place then it's your own problem.

>> No.30197567

>>30197465
Go back to February if you don't even know the basic timeline

>> No.30197803

>>30197193
Oh no, it's fucking nothing and not even out of the ordinary from his usual shit
I'm done with you antikun, get a hobby, and once again learn japanese 暇すぎ持て余すガイジ

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>>30197567
Am i missing something?

>> No.30197911

anons are extra retarded today

>> No.30198070

That bait thread saying Nazuna is falling off has me a little bit worried. That’s not true is it?

>> No.30198147

>>30198070
No

>> No.30198183

>>30198070
She was the most watched Japanese vtuber on Twitch during that stream, second most watched vtuber in the world on Twitch since some Korean girl was at 11k viewers
/#/rot is leaking and distorting people's perceptions on what numbers should look like.
Logically speaking, if Twitch continues to grow in popularity in Jaapn, I can see her slowly inclining. I've said this before, but it would be nice to have a /#/thread exclusively for Twitch analysis, but /#/ attracts the absolute scum of the website, so

>> No.30198229

>>30198070
it is more important that vshojo help her since they are her support network for twitch and marketing. Mike herself can just keep doing what she's doing (and do self improvements as well)

>> No.30198288

>>30197803
For a girl who'd say just meeting eyes is cheating and chided her viewers for watching other girls, you're awfully soft on her watching a male talking of how kind and good looking she is

>> No.30198398

>>30198288
>kind
She says everybody is kind, she even called korekore kind, try harder
>good-looking
learn japanese

>> No.30198450

>>30198398
Not the Anon you are responding to but you have to read that again anon. He was talking about him saying those things about her and her listening.

>> No.30198476

>>30198398
>learn japanese
まずお前英語の勉強ちゃんとしろ。Read what I wrote again

>> No.30198551

>>30198183
>it would be nice to have a /#/thread exclusively for Twitch analysis
Yeah. Twitch is smaller than youtube, globally speaking.
But the biggest vtuber company on twitch is Vshojo. Whenever any holo or niji does a twitch stream, they pull in far fewer numbers than vshojo girls do.

>> No.30198646

I had to crop rushia out of the triptych impregnation sex animation, it's a shame because rushia is the greatest anime girl ever designed but I just can't bring myself to masturbate to her anymore, it feels like I'm disrespecting her memory in a way.

>> No.30198692

>>30198476
Oh my apologies, then my point is again to tell you to learn japanese if you think what he said isn't standard nip complimentary language if you think that sounds like a come-on

>> No.30198699

>>30198646
Please continue to nut
Don't forget あの子

>> No.30198730

Didn't she say something about her old friends from a decade ago a few twitcasts back? I think it was even written down by summaryanon in his pastebin

>> No.30198736

>>30198183
>/#/rot is leaking and distorting people's perceptions on what numbers should look like.
that's funny and ironic since they claim Twitch and Youtube should be treated separately, yet they compare Nazuna's numbers to her numbers when she was still Rushia. they pull out various copes when you point out that it's actually very high for a vtuber twitch stream.

>> No.30198749

>>30198692
Going on dinner dates is also standard complimentary nip language in your world

>> No.30198806

I saw a bunch of people saying she was close to partner on twitch, if she's not partner is because she either doesn't want or hasnt decided yet
Gunrun is atill influential in twitch, hajime had partner the day she debuted iirc, you are underestimating his twitch founder status

>> No.30198841

>doesn't want to concede the point
>immediately tries to bring up the Mafu2 rrat
As an outsider looking into this conversation im honestly not surprised this conversation went in this direction.

>> No.30198950

>>30198730
Yes. Furthermore, she knows that we stalk her enough to know about this. That's why it's a nothingburger
The fact that anti-kun didn't even want to admit which chat she was in this time (hint: it's always the same fucking chat) shows that even he realises that he can't bait with that fag anymore.

>> No.30198963

>>30198841
>rrat
She still hasn't denied it. In any twitcast.

>> No.30198970

Imagine how much more proficient you could be in japanese if u just watched kson instead

>> No.30199099

>>30197220
Yeah, thank you. I feel better every time I see it and I forgot to save it.

>> No.30199178

>>30198963
>ただただみんな好き

>> No.30199185

>>30198970
Nice try antikun but that was your weakest bait so far

>> No.30199205

>>30198699
I will never forget but I spent a better part of the months since February being too depressed to masturbate and only being able to cry when looking at rushia art. In every sense, in my chuuni world I am a widow since February, and I refuse to disrespect my beloved's memory by looking at her in such a way again.

>> No.30199251

>>30199185
Bait? I’m serious

>> No.30199253

Someone link this guy she is watching. He must be a good streamer if she is watching. I am bored.

>> No.30199347

>>30199253
stop being fucking vague and post

>> No.30199349

>>30199253
He's honestly boring and he uses it as a place to chat with his friends more than anything. Half the few times she comments its to something some viewer said instead of him

>> No.30199387

>>30199205
Based

>> No.30199471

>>30199349
who though?

>> No.30199489

>open 5ch thread
>ctrl f
>ゆっち
>21 results
>ゆち
>15 results
なるほどね

>> No.30199534

>>30196125
Here's the sauce: >>30199459

I posted it in /vt/'s designated nsfw thread

>> No.30199657

>>30199489
What does 2ch say? I know 5ch is mentally ill but 2ch are supportive…. Right??

>> No.30199697

>>30199657
Retard
Please don't post ever again

>> No.30199700

>>30198950
>Furthermore, she knows that we stalk her enough to know about this
I even told her as much months ago. To me the fact that she's talking to him publicly only means that she's not talking to him privately.

>> No.30199754

>>30199697
?????? What the fuck is your problem, faggot?

>> No.30199759

>>30196812
>she'd have nothing against ryona it that'd be from kaigainikki gentlemen angels
Nazu-tan, stop. I can't love you more than now

>> No.30199846

god I hate the anti anon that dedicates his entire day to just tracking whatever interactions she has just to post here. What's sad is I feel like he used to be one of us since he's so dedicated

>> No.30199863

>>30199205
Anon people jack off to their dead wives all the time

>> No.30199876

>>30199754
2channel is 5channel retard-kun
Futaba doesn't have threads about her

>> No.30199889

>>30199700
You can tell by what she says in chat that she doesn't talk to him privately

>> No.30199917

>>30199657
>imagine knowing japanese and not going in their thread and flaming the shit out of them

>> No.30199968

>>30199876
Futaba = 2chan retard

>> No.30200023

>>30199968
"2ch" stands for 2channel retard

>> No.30200041

>>30199846
I just think it's funny
Imagine spending all your free time trying to find out evidence of her cheating just to find nothing and having to resort to the same dude
He even tried to use Kirche or whatever his name was

>> No.30200091

>>30200023
>2chan.net
>THATS NOT 2CH!!!!!!!
Just drop it retard

>> No.30200149

>>30199846
>god I hate the anti anon that dedicates his entire day to just tracking whatever interactions she has just to post here.
Sometimes I wonder where does a person find this much free time to be this petty and pathetic.

>> No.30200154

>>30200041
My guy I just ignore him now, for the simple fact that yesterday he tried to prove that her and the host from the tournament where playing Apex together using the veeeeery convincing evidence that both of them play Apex, you know one of the most played games in Japan, and the even more convincing evidence of both of them being Japanese.

>> No.30200207

>>30200154
That anon was not me

>> No.30200272

>>30200041
best part about him is that she DIRECTLY addressed our concerns about him, being weirded out at the idea of her having any romantic interest and thinking that him being married would be reassuring to us
All that for literally nothing more than a few stream comments every once in a blue moon

>> No.30200293

Since IronMouse and Nyanners got nendroids, do you think Nazuna will get one one day too? Or do you think GoodSmile black listed her because they’re afraid of Cover.

>> No.30200433

>>30200293
Maybe once she establishes herself more. Her model is still relatively new.
Until then, I think Kson will get her nendo before Nazuna does. Mostly because she's been using her current persona for years now.

>> No.30200475

>>30200293
Trust me, they don’t wanna find out why they call him the gunrun.

>> No.30200501

>>30200293
I don't think Cover has enough pull to intimidate a company with as many contracts with as many insanely high profile clients as Goodsmile. Could see it happening for Kson first but if the Mouse + Nyan nendos + the Nyan + Vei popup figures do well I don't see why it wouldn't happen eventually.

>> No.30200509

>>30200293
If Cover put pressure on them to do so that'd be literally 営業妨害, so I doubt it

>> No.30200526 [DELETED] 

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%E3%81%A1%E3%82%83%E3%82%93%E3%81%AD%E3%82%8B

>> No.30200577

>Emojis are allowed on 5ch
There is something really funny about seeing a bunch of seething moon runes with 2 emojis

>> No.30200605

>>30200091
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%E3%81%A1%E3%82%83%E3%82%93%E3%81%AD%E3%82%8B

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It would be fun to have both a Rushia and Nazuna nendos

>> No.30200909

>>30200272
honestly I have no idea who this ksnk guy even is. but everytime that antikun mentions him here I almost bite the bait every single time. is he someone to worry about?

>> No.30201093

>>30199863
Not me, will never be me

>> No.30201162

>>30200909
My nigga that man is already a married man whose committed to his wife, furthermore she comments once in a bluemoon while he's streaming and it's basic shit like good luck or do well. She even clarified to us when we had brung it up and was confused and weirded out as to why we though she had any romantic feelings for him. A literal nothing of a situation considering everything, though of course antikun would try to spin it into the worst possible situation ever.

>> No.30201193

>>30200798
Figma Nazuna's bare tummy...

>> No.30201289

Why did you make me visit 5ch. Those faggot japs are tallking about mousey’s ”limited time”. I’m gonna shinzo abe every single one of them

>> No.30201319

>>30201162
kinda figured as much, thought i'd ask anyways just to be sure.
Regardless I do wonder if antikun was a genuine fan at one point or he simply just gets off on trying to bring up this topic every single time. Probably the same fuck that sperged out about that kirtoscheersehosf or whatever the fuck is his name yesterday

>> No.30201350

>>30201289
>I’m gonna shinzo abe every single one of them
Fuck and impregnate them?

>> No.30201391

How the fuck does this woman deal with us? Does she even bother to deal with me?

>> No.30201522

>>30201391
She's always kind and sweet when dealing with my bullshit so I'd say yes. Just don't be too unreasonable

>> No.30201562

>>30200501
Kemurikusa's (anime by fired Kemono Friends's director) Rin got a nendo, despite Kadokawa having a strong hold within the company. it took them long enough to release Azur Lane nendos though.

>> No.30201732

>>30201319
>Regardless I do wonder if antikun was a genuine fan at one point
Heavily doubt he listened to her before feb, because if he did he wouldn't be surprised by the fact that she occasionally watches twitcasts.

>> No.30201852

>>30201732
She sleeps to the breath of other men's sleeping together twitcast but she didn't have them flirting directly with her personally

>> No.30201901

>>30201289
They're worse than gutter trash. If you're neither sane enough nor insane enough to be able to stay stable while reading the most despicable kind of schizo vomit its best to stay out

>> No.30201951

>>30201852
>flirting
all the meds

>> No.30202122

>>30201901
I thought the japanese were nice

>> No.30202276

>>30202122
Only Mike

>> No.30202364

>>30201852
>flirting
My retard your the type of person to think that a girl is flirting with you when she calls you a nice guy, that's not flirting that's being polite and the very fact that you can't recognize that different cultures and language have different policies relative to the west tells me you are retarded. Furthermore that man is literally married anon.
>inb4 the Japanese have high cheating rates.

>> No.30202430

>>30202122
They are polite to you in your face but once masks are off they pull no punches.

>> No.30202447

>>30202122
lol
even the worst schizos from this place can't hold a candle to that place

>> No.30202488

>>30202122
They'll be perfectly courteous to your face for sure
What happens when they feel they're protected from social consequences, however, is a different story altogether

>> No.30202758

Nuke 5chan from orbit
Protect key
Love key forever

>> No.30202801

>>30202122
A lot of Cover employees use 5ch iirc

>> No.30202830

>>30202122
Tell that to the ""nice"" japanese man who burned down the KyoAni animation studio.
Some otakus over there on that isolated island are frankly the most mentally unstable people on the entire planet.

>> No.30203244

love wife

>> No.30203328

new thread soon

>> No.30203394

>>30203328
>this thread only lasted around 6 hours
sugoi

>> No.30203639

>>30203394
>BUT THE THREAD IS DEAD!
Maybe onlookers can now understand why we just prefer to stay quiet, fast thread means garbage thread 9 times out of 10

>> No.30203662

What the fuck even happened here

>> No.30203740

>>30203662
Mikeneko sent a grand total of around 10 messages in ksnks twitcast chat an hour ago

>> No.30203776

>>30203662
The oldfags and JSLfags who knew of the ksnk situation where asleep so the bait was bit and lasted longer than usual, until we woke up and clarified it. Also Menhera thread pls andastand.

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30203789

>>30203639
yeah, slow comfy threads are the best, not every thread needs to be constantly active

>> No.30204616

new thread soon

>> No.30205530

What do the JP audience think of Nazu going reverse weeb last stream?

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