What went wrong?

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>>30753714
Too much freedom

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No one to tardwrangle her.

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>>30753714
She doesn't use chibison often enough

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hubris

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>>30753714
Aquachink deflection thread

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She allows faggots like you to live rent free inside of her head. That's what really went wrong. She can't help herself but to pay mind to all the vitriolic bullshit because she's mentally frail as fuck.

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this is your brain on talent freedom

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>>30753714
China

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>>30753714
reddit

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>>30753714
Unironically, her ego. She let everyone's praise of her get to her head too much and thought she was the queen of vtubing, an untouchable legend, and thought she would be just as successful as an indie. Turns out brand really does matter. Now she has to resort to trash taste collabs, streaming with a bikini model, and join vshojo to keep her views up. Never has there been a harder fall from grace in vtubing.

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Leaving hololive

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>>30754110
>Never has there been a harder fall from grace in vtubing.
lol
you can't be serious

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>>30753714
Nothing went wrong, she made a decision she thought was the best course of action and random people who probably didn't even like her to begin with freaked out to create a storm.

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>>30753943
>oh nyoo look at Aqua she only got 91k viewers after ghosting her fans for a year.
Cope Vshojokek. Vshojos box is 35k viewers max, that’s less than half.

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>>30754213
I am serious

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>>30754002
Vwhorejo was the problem
>but she did the same things in Hololive
Yes but she got tardwrangled while there

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nothing and everything. She got what she wanted(freedom and a fresh start) but like most people her ego couldn't admit what she really wanted(numbers and validation ). I think she will end up happy though.

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>>30754443
She wanted money, which she got when she joined vshojo. Unfortunately for her it lost her some of her fanbase who still had hope and Kanata

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>>30753714
Appealing to westeners

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I like how mad numberschizos are at the 3D Kumichou model. I look forward to the next time she uses it.

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vtards will literally pretend to like anything if someone else says it's bad. even when it's complete dogshit

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>>30755100
this is advanced level cope

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>>30754585
https://files.catbox.moe/e4ekzi.webm

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>>30755100
Inhaling too much copium can be lethal, be careful anon!

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>>30753714
why are chinks so invasive? why can't you just watch your own chinese vtubers and shut up?

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>>30755100
anon it looks like shit

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>>30755540
the chinese were right, fucking kneel

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>>30754110
>trash taste collabs, streaming with a bikini model
Hololive does the same

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>>30754213
I kind of agree with you, but I also can't think of an alternative.

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Honest to god she should have never came back to vtubing and just went on with her IRL self.

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I'll be honest I never really liked her content from the start. Her meme reviews were cringe and she severely underutilised her bilingualism. I just enjoyed her fat fucking tits.

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>>30755841
Same bro. I think the only stuff I enjoyed from her was that english telephone collab.

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>>30755683
>tt collabs
nobody cares because it was Mori
>bikini model
where, don't say holosummer
special events vs every day game bikini streams
i hate kson apologists

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>>30753714
her being hired at hololive
that's where everything went wrong

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>>30753714
She's too much of a freedom loving American.

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>>30755909
It even seemed like she became such a massive unironic weeb that she deadass suffered from language attrition. Her English was pretty awkward during the EN Mario Party collab.

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>>30753749
Women weren’t meant to have freedom. Sad days ahead.

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>>30754601
She is literally an American. A Southerner (the based part of US) for that matter. If that was your gripe she was dead on arrival.

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>>30755927
>where, don't say holosummer
>special events vs every day game bikini streams
lol

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>>30755683
>Hololive
Mori is honorary Vwhorejo. She doesn't like hololive and her friends are at Vshojo. No hololive fan will care if she graduates.

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>>30753714
She's literally saving the industry.

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>>30756601
Vtubing needs saving?

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>i-it doesn't count, reeeee!!!

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>>30753714
Joined vshojo.

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>>30753714
>What went wrong?
High expectations. People thought she'd do great things and push boundaries harder than ever before thanks to MUH CREATIVE FREEDOM but instead she just plays typical vtuber games, grills meat, and builds model kits. Which is perfectly fine but it's not the kind of people were anticipating. It's like watching a wild woman settle down into being a gentle grandma.

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>>30755716
Sio.

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>>30756247
Yet her western viewers are a tiny sliver of her overwhelmingly Japanese fanbase. Appealing to western viewers is exactly why she's declining.

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>>30755927
>nobody cares because it was Mori
Nobody cares? Nobody wxcept for the entire thread (on /jp/) and the entire board (here) freaking out every time she does something like this.
Mori might literally be the only person who lives rent free in /vt/sisters' heads more than Kson. People care WAY too much about her.

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>>30756683
People actually fell for "le creative freedom" reason for leaving hololive?

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>>30756683
My gripe is that people say she left Hololive because management was giving her the squeeze on certain project she wanted to do. But like, she graduated and became an indie with complete and utter freedom to do whatever... and she does the same things she could do in Hololive minus face cams. And then she went and joined vwhorejo and... is doing the same thing she did as an idea and idol.

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>>30756756
So what will be the explanation for when she stabilizes?

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>>30756842
She realized she couldn’t do shit without a company providing shit for her, hence why she joined vshojo for connections and tech.

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>>30753714
Westerners making a shitty knockoff of a Japanese idea. That's the source of literally all problems around vtubing.
It should have remained an East Asian only thing.

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>>30753955
>Put up happily with seething bugmen for most of her life as a holo
>mentally frail
Pick one.

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>>30756943
Her numbers will stabilize, but it'll be at a number much lower than when she was Coco or a pre-Vshojo indie.

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>>30757046
Until she gains more numbers.

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>>30757034
>east asian only
way to out yourself bugboy

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>>30753714
She was never talented to begin with her only real ploy was to bring bad Western memes to the JP chuubas and help narrow a language barrier that was it.
Now that she literally has no one to do this for shes lost all value

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>>30753714
who?

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you can't stop making Kson threads

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>>30753714
she didnt have to save haachama thats the truth

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>>30756782
Yes. Her content is completely different.

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So why is Kanata the one who has to leave their shared apartment when it's Kson who joined vwhorejo? Friend or not it's a bit of a scummy move to have your roommate move out when it's your fault you can't live together anymore.

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>>30757044
Nta, but she only acts tough, she is quite frail and she is ego searching too much.

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>>30757233
Build Gundams and playing with Legos really pissed cover off for some reason idk why

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>>30757242
Because Kson is the one who owns/rents the apartment. It has nothing to do with Cover.

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>>30753714
she got too greedy

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>>30757233
Is it though?

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>>30757116
Not even close.
I just like Korean and Indog chuubas. Even if they are not Japanese they are at least humble enough to mimic what the Japs do as best as they can. Totally different from Western roasties thinking they are above Japanese style streaming, and instead opting for being twitch thots with an anime avatar.

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>>30757242
Maybe Kanata just got tired of being the last link to a friend that became a disappointment and left on her own

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Zhang seething because Hololive will not comeback to open market in China again.
Yagoo is a smart guy and he know about bugmen occasionally attacking other member even before Kekson Taiwan incident. (Remember about choco Tibet incident and Pekora clipper incident).

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>>30757435
>Ollie told her ID fanbase to learn fucking English instead of crying over her not speaking in Jaba the Hut
Yes really Japanese style

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>>30757442
I'd be pretty disappointed too if my friend was one of the biggest names in all of vtubing and dropped it all for vshojo and brought along the menhera with her.

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>>30757242
>So why is Kanata
Kanata just follows, it was always Coco making decisions

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She was born with a mickey mouse voice, I don’t know how people can listen to her talk for more than five minutes.

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>>30757570
Yes, shitting on indog "culture" is an important part of acting Japanese.

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>>30757707
It's quite endearing, if you get used to it

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>>30757752
And Western too by the way

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just gonna post this again because its all my thoughts on it
I'm someone who got into vtubers just about a year before Coco left. I actually felt pretty sad about it. Definitely a lot sadder than I felt about subsequent Holomem graduations. For one thing, even though the other anon is doing a really bad job of defending his point, Kson's crusade for vtubers keeping their models is not only completely impracticeable from a business standpoint, I have to agree it's an incredibly unreasonable expectation for a vtuber to have. And she completely misrepresents the situation, saying vtubers "lose all their hard work" as if she wasn't a complete literal who before Hololive who now has over a million subs. The way she presents the situation so one sidedly and has the gall to act like she's "just giving her point of view" reminds me a lot of that image of Hitler going "hey that's just my opinion man."
It'd be like Flo from Progressive finishing her stint there and suddenly being allowed to carry her character around. It's really fucking stupid, and honestly I really don't have any respect for people who don't remember where they came from. Kson's holier-than-thou attitude, almost acting like Nazuna didn't deserve what she got, like she isn't actively provoking Cover herself, like they did her dirty... all of it really pisses me off. It makes it really obvious that she isn't a kind soul looking to help vtubers so much as she is an extreme opportunist masquerading as a savior. It leaves an extremely bad taste in the mouth, and the words that come to mind are "selfish," "westoid," and "fake." Kson is fake as fuck. Faker than Rushia. Faker than vtubers with boyfriends. Faker than pretty much any kayfabe, because her entire kayfabe is that she's standing up for the little guy. She's not. She's sucker punching the nice guy at the gym who spots your bench press and living off the high fives she gets from everyone for showing up a bully. She's eating a free meal from someone rich and then immediately spitting on their hand when they offer a handshake. People don't like Kson because she's a clout chaser in a space that they love because it used to be free from that kind of race-to-the-bottom behavior. That's why people don't fucking like Vshojo, despite Ironmouse herself being a great success story and an overall really likeable person. The company itself chases the lowest common denominator of vtubing under the pretense of "talent freedom" and has the gall to act like it's about worker rights instead of simple branding. It makes the entire space worse.
Anyway, that's my two cents. In short, fuck Kson.

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>>30757794
I'm happy for you, or sad that it happened to

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>>30757854
Yes reading is hard we get it Tyrone

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>>30757794
>Reminds me a lot of that image of Hitler
Whoa, based Kson, hail victory!

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>>30757794
Writing general is two blocks down

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>>30757794
Cover did do her dirty though. They half assed her defense and she was kept isolated like some leper for months before she threw in the towel. Don't try to rewrite history. Cover dropped the ball, and she suffered for it.

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>>30757794
>completely impracticeable from a business standpoint
I've heard of businesses actually using this model succesfully. One of them is called VShojo. You might have heard about them.
>And she completely misrepresents the situation, saying vtubers "lose all their hard work" as if she wasn't a complete literal who before Hololive who now has over a million subs.
Kson actually constantly talks about how thankful she is to "certain places and people" for helping her achieve her success. I guess you haven't seen a clip about that.

The rest of your post is basically a defensive schizo rant because you don't understand Japanese. I don't really blame you that much because she doesn't explain this stuff in English but you should really calm down and not make so many assumptions, because you're dead wrong about pretty much everything about her.

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>>30758510
Rude, voices in my head are pretty reliable source

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>>30753714
Go to bed Pippa

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>>30754397
>tardwrangled
giving mod to chinese that hate her is correct her?
Why do like to suck the dick of tanigo so much?

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>>30753714
She grew up close enough to Atlanta for too long. You pick up all sorts of bad shit around here. She's a dork but has that obvious repressed desire to be slutty(if she wasn't one on the past)

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When you're a woman you need 1 of 3 things to succeed in life

> skills
> looks
> ability to give good head

Kson has neither as a raging western lesbian that is becoming ESL so she hit a wall. She'll slowly bleed viewers and die off as a miserable hag rationing her million dollars.

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>>30759242
>(if she wasn't one on the past)
Anon.... she literally worked as a stripper before moving to Nippon

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>>30759317
I don't care enough to actually confirm this so I'll just take your word for it

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>>30753714
She was a shitty western bitch in a Japanese company

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>>30757794

Are you still using this copy paste even though no one reads it?
I guess you went to a lot of effort transcribing the voices in your head and want some recognition.
Here you go brown boy you earned it.
(You)

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>>30759395
Anon confused her with Marine, actually.

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SHE REFUSES TO PAY RENT AND HAS BEEN SQUATTING IN /vt/'s HEAD FOR MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>30759830
I don't think marine has it in her to be an actual stripper. Artsy types like her are more likely to draw the horny, probably gigabytes of smut that we may never actually see but they're hardly sluts in real life. She clearly does want a good partner though

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>>30756732
You know even Kusonaki "King of the Indies" Sio only had about 150k subs at her peak.
So it depends on if you want to count from the top or the bottom so to speak.

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>>30759984
>months
Coco was a legend and has an eternal rent in the minds of everyone.
Not that people scrutinize that legend and her poor choices Ksharts get upset. Can't have your cake and eat it too. She will always be talked about, and it's probably the best for you and me that griping stay away from the general.

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>>30760540
It actually depends on if you are a retard or not, because Sio has been fucking dead for 2 years and Kson is extremely successful.

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>>30760789
What did she actually do that could be called a poor choice?

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>>30761122
She has the pink V logo now! That's bad. I only like the blue triangle one.

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>>30761122
Jeopardize her best friend's career, push out shitty models that she ends up crying over, joining a psycho western clique, endless cope messages over twitter and memberships.
>>30761175
Disingenuous shill.

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>>30761175
I'm glad we agree on something.

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>>30761422
This is all subjective. Most of the time I see others crying over her every move, not her.

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>>30754110
Basically this her actual quality was "is a funny foil for HoloJPs" because they generally are naive about Westerner habits and Coco was still controlled there from going too edgy/whoreish in that environment.

Outside it however, and going to twitch etc, she's not actually that special or interesting by herself nor amongst other Western girls. She was interesting and exotic BECAUSE she was rude and Western in attitude in Hololive. Not really so much outside it.

Also, reddit's nonstop faggoty praise got to her head and she got into a repetitive loop of "which rando holoJP is she gonna invite next to read a lame-ass tier chart to for 20 mins for a polite laugh and then get to say "FUCK!", oh noes she's breaking the seiso JP idoldom, ohnono yagoo's dream in tears."

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>>30753714
la creativedud

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>>30753714
I give props to you Holofags for not getting tired of making the same fucking bait posts everyday for the past month or so

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>>30761422
>Jeopardize her best friend's career
lol. Polka lives with other vtubers and there is no issue. Kanata is just a schizo who gets sad over 5ch narratives so she fucked over her best friend to avoid reading any roommate schizo shit.
>push out shitty models that she ends up crying over
Oh, you are a clipwatcher.

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>>30761700
claiming it's all Kanata's fault, impressive, this is a new low for vwhorejo fags

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>>30757242
I thought it was because of the risk of a previous employer going to work in a rather potential rival company spilling out confidential info about her and shit. On top of a certain NDA breaker coming along.

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>>30753714
Talent freedom

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>>30761859
She's a bitch. There's a reason why nobody calls into Kanata's totsus. Nobody likes her.
>>30761871
No, Cover doesn't care about that shit. She just read a schizo post on 5ch and decided to up and leave.

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>>30753714
? Nothing.

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>>30761700
>Kanata fucked her over by being the one to move out
The kshart cries out as it strikes you
>clipwatcher
AHEM
>>29602429

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>>30753714
Women

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>>30762012
>Nobody likes her.
meds
>She's a bitch.
If she was, she'd have joined vshojo.

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Nothing. She makes /vt/ seethe because she joined vshojo but everyone else still likes and respects her. She personally bounced back from a pretty debilitating brigading from Zhangs and even got her friend a job at a new company when she needed help. The only thing she’s lost is her ability to work in Hololive’s ecosystem. She more or less makes the same content and acts the same.

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>>30761585
Finally someone who actually watches streams. This is genuinely all true. Coco was never anything special. I'm glad Reddit dragon is out of hololive but disappointed I cried at her graduation.

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>>30762317
There's that word again.
That word that signals like a giant signpost that you're a redditor.

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>>30762029
The thing she was sad about is that she had to rush her 3D debut due to a certain event that would take place in July, but said event ended up being postponed, so it was rushed for nothing. She was disappointed in how it turned out because there were a lot of technical problems that she couldn't solve in time since it was thrown together over a couple of weeks. The clip you saw left that part out so I understand why you are confused.

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>>30762430
You're just coping and moving goalposts, the question was what mistakes she made and that was indeed one of her cascading mistakes destroying her legendary image.

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>>30762317
>everyone else still likes and respects her
Perhaps, but it appears that liking and respecting doesn't translate into watching.

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>>30762491
>push out shitty models that she ends up crying over
This is what you said. It was incorrect.

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Literally nothing. People on this board are just upset that she no longer has a blue dorito next to her name. People outside this board either don't care or still love her all the same.

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>>30762666
You literally agreed with me and tried to add cope context.

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>>30762667
Yes yes reddit still loves her that's great.

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dark hair is so ugly

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>>30757794
mucho texto, tldr faggot?

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>>30754370
Based Nyanners collab.

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>>30757794

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>>30762835
She didn't cry over her models though, she actually likes them a lot. She just sold some merch featuring one of them. The thing she was actually sad over was issues with using Unity and not having time to commission more assets.

You are the one who moved the goalposts, from "she was sad about her models" to "she was sad". You're coping over being misled by a clip that left out a lot of context.

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>>30753812
The only correct answer in this thread.

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>>30753714
Literally too much saviorfagging. Also, obviously, the ccp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30763488
> went wrong
> too much savourfagging

You need some hug anon

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>>30762996
>tldr
NTA, but:
>Kson is not the messiah, she's a very duplicitous bitch
>Vshoujo is a blight on vtubing disingenuously masquerading as paragons of talent freedom and worker's rights.

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>>30763630
I do. Literal merch-having tatsunoko here.
Haachama saviorfagging (not really, but a nice legend) was noble and far-reaching. Michael saviorfagging? When she tried to sink the company Kson's, at the time, covid-ridden roommate worked for? With all her unicorns as sacrifice? A bit, way, way too much or a messiah complex.
Haachama was like giving your son's life for the sins of hundreds of thousands (and an important political stance and the CCP). Michael was like giving hundreds of thousands lives for your son (and pro-promiscuity feminism).

We'll always have Coco for all she was worth though.

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>>30763630
>>30764043
Fucking christ I'm drunk and my grammar is fucked up. But you get what I mean.

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>>30764043
Fact

You can't stop saviourfag to save someone especially ....
> her old friend who need help most

/hug