/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

there's twitter and reddit normies raiding the board. we need to gate keep harder or male collabs will become the norm and soon after that shared servers. let your voice be heard and vote with your wallet.

even if you don't mind male collabs, don't let holo EN become niji EN. don't allow an environment to form that's welcoming of these twitter and reddit normies

[Anonymous No.]

It's over and you're delusional if you think you can change it.

[Anonymous No.]

You're giving them too much credit. They are so retarded and don't blend in at all.

[Anonymous No.]

shut up unicorns

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>>32731747
Unicorns were the original invaders you stupid cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>trannies and beta males seething already at this post

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>>32731747
Another hobby ruined

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>>32731747
You already lost by watching EN, newfag.

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>>32731747
>>32727807

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>>32731747

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>>32732027
>2018
Rumao get new material, this shit is before any of them showed up on a stage

[Anonymous No.]

>>32732160
>Clap clap
Next meme!

[Anonymous No.]

>>32732199
>I-It doesn't count It's too old!!
>t-they weren't idols back then!!

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>>32732198
Exactly, you mouth-breathing retard, male collabs haven't been taboo before you parasocial fucks made it about yourselves, and done it in such a way that the ENs were barely allowed to collab from the outside for nearly 2 years, not even counting males.

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>>32732450
Meant for >>32732198
Also being an idol has nothing to do with not Interacting with males

[Anonymous No.]

>>32732450
JP got much better and EN is getting much, much worse.

Would you rather a stock that starts at $100 and doubles in value every week or one that starts at $1,000,000 and halves in value every week?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32731747
You have no power vt, never was, never will.

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>>32732485
The difference for EN is that accepting male collabs and making them the norm is accepting the Twitter and Reddit audience.

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>>32732485
>it in such a way that the ENs were barely allowed to collab from the outside
This is a good thing unless you're a seething Nijicuck angrythat Luxiems cocksleeves couldn't leech off them. Hololive is so much better than any outside vtuber groups that there is nothing to gain by interacting with them

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>>32731747
Male collabs are the future, you have lost.

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>>32731747
You won't do shit and you suck at gatekeeping. I will genderbend all your waifu and turn them into dick-sucking males and spam the art tag with yaoi the way you faggots keep spamming all the male vtubers' tags with disgusting genderbent yurishit and there will be nothing you can do to stop me.

[Anonymous No.]

The audacity of ENsharts to think they're not the green guy, the brown guy, the guy in the hat and the girl.

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>>32732027
>the streams hosted by holos are gone
that is pretty funny
looks like she fubuki forgot to delete the tweet
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1025214811120984066

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>>32732485
>male collabs haven't been taboo before you parasocial fucks made it about yourselves
holy retardation way to out yourself newfag

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>>32732679
They're the green guy. Not inherently evil.

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>>32731747
based, push the greynigger troons out

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>>32732596
My point is that unicorns act like they're the old guards here as depicted in the OP pic, when it's clearly not the case here.
I hate Luxiem for bringing in a fanbase that does not value vtubing culture - they're more closer to Dream stans than being vtuber fans, but from what I've seen with Tempus and the rest of Holostars, they make it so that their fans would still respect Hololive, and I appreciate it a lot.
The key is to not gatekeep groups, as it creates tribalfaggotry, but to gatekeep individuals. Ironmouse, for example, should be completely fine despite being from Vshojo.

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>>32731963
Hilarious. Unicorns are basically an offshoot of idolfags, just more extreme in their beliefs.
You normalfags are the invaders.

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>>32733058
>Ironmouse, for example, should be completely fine despite being from Vshojo.
Hahaha absolutely not. Do your reps

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>>32733058
>ironmouse, the lying whore, should be trusted
ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

unicornfags invading vtubing and turning it into some personal animegirl tinder then crying how it's healing is the funniest shit ever

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>>32732027
Post it again next thread my Indonesian friend. Bet you came when Myth debuted.

[Anonymous No.]

Most of you guys already ruined everything back in 2019, what's wrong with dumping more shit to play with?

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>>32733137
>a-are you not mentally ill like me?? y-you must be a normalfag!!

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>>32733058
Keep outing yourself, larper.

[Anonymous No.]

The original fans of vtubing is zhang, everyone should learn from them

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>>32733310
unironically this

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>>32733272
I thought Myth was disappointing, if anything. I wasn't really excited during an EN debut until Lazulight and Obsydia. Then luxiem came and fucked up all the momentum they had.

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>>32733310
>hates the mentally ill
get off here, faggot

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>>32733310
Yes.

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>>32733310
Yes, why the fuck are you here? Go to reddit.

[Anonymous No.]

>reddit normies raiding the board
nigger this board is literally and unironically just /r/hololive
WE ARE ALREADY REDDIT

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive didn't invent vtubers, why should I care?

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>>32733310
The unicorns last bastion protecting vtubing from turning into a twitch-tier ewhore/ethot shithole. The unicorns are extremists, yes, but they are the check and balance against these women and whore loving cucks that want vtubing to be perfectly okay with women openly being whores while they collect condom money from a demoralized cuckbase of men who would give thousands.

YOU NEED UNICORNS, admit it or not. And I welcome them with open arms as the sane voice of one wing.
God, just imagining a vtuber world without unicorns scares me!

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>>32731747
Jokes on them, I already was disenfranchised by having my go-to thread banned by the trash jannies! Fuckers can't even destroy a community before it destroys itself kek

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>>32732917
look at hololive streams in 2019 you filthy baboon

[Anonymous No.]

The last step already happened when this board was created

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>>32731747
It's time to give up and enjoy the decline

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>>32734060
And most of them never do it now.

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>>32734216
>>32733768
Holo EN is still LEAGUES better than NijiEN. It can still be saved.

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>>32731747
You faggots where the invasive fandom that ended up killing the /jp/ threads and forcing a split and eventually needing an entire containment board. Being indifferent or wanting males isn't some woke thing and I honestly hope you fags get driven out of the fanbase after hijacking it in 2019.

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>>32731747
it was you
you're the one who ruined it

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>>32731747
It's been over for a while now.

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>>32731747
I think we are getting raided

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>>32735257
Luxiem is when I noticed the true decline happening actually. That's when Twitter screenshots being shared here and of this place really took off.

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>>32733310
yes

[Anonymous No.]

Rise up

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>>32734632
That's not the point. The point is unicornfags were never the first audience. OP make it seem as if unicorns were the original fans

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>>32735969
OP here. The only point I want to get across is that we need to constantly push back against male collabs before we become NijiEN which is a fanbase full of Twitter and RedditTards that celebrate the fact they have males and females in the same Discord and game servers.
Personally I can tolerate male collabs, but we need people who push back to keep it them as something that's not the norm.

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>>32735257
need more circles. can't understand shit

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck off you unicorn fuck.
You're the ones that are the invaders.
Fuck right off back to /r9k/ where you belong with the rest of the societal rejects.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32735753
kek

[Anonymous No.]

it's not even twitter reddit normies. it's twitch 3dpd watcher normies

[Anonymous No.]

>>32732661
Nice larp, i need medication, can I have some of yours?

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>>32731747
Man do you know how many reddit filenames I've seen on this board? It's at least in the triple digits, possibly 4 digits.

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>>32731747
Go on then, do it. Throw as big of a shitfit as you possibly can, go nuclear on your membered account and get banned

You'll only achieve the opposite of what you want, the pushback against your pushback will come and you will have already blown your load and have no energy left to sperg out

If the male collabs had just happened, been ignored and gotten shitty numbers, they never would have happened again. You've basically guaranteed that they will become the norm by galvanizing normies to stand against your position.

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>>32731747
>implying this board has not been just a refugee center for redditors from the get-go

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>>32731747
I don't understand why everyone hates normies coming in. From what I've seen the original fanbase sits and waits for drama and gets mad at every slight thing. What's wrong with normalfags having fun with a hobby when the original people never enjoyed it in the first place?

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>>32733310
What the fuck do you think normalfag means retard?

Verification not required.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32731747
Homobeggars should be tortured, flogged, and flayed.

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>>32740109
/vt/ is the same 3 SEAniggers spamming bait threads

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>>32731747
/vt/ has always been a containment board for tourists. why do you think we are the laughing stock of every other board except /pol/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32735753
you have to learn to be inclusive and tolerant
the nazis were the bad guys, everyone knows this
oh and please wear your pronoun badge when you post on this board

[Anonymous No.]

You're not the black guy.
You're also not the green guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32741103
I'm not that dark, also I not orc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32731981
If it was THIS easy to ruin, not only was it never yours to begin with, it deserves to die. Thankfully not every chuuba enjoyer is a fucking schizo and the hobby will go on without (You)

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>>32731747

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>>32731747
This has been a reddit board for months. You're delusional thinking you can start gatekeeping now.

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>>32731747
>ignore all the raiders
>they get less attention and give up on raiding
>ignore all the male collabs
>they get less views and stop doing collabs
I'm going to fix everything by not doing shit

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>>32736211
the only thing im pushing back is your moms guts fag

[Anonymous No.]

OH NO "MUH HOBBY.JPG"
Dude go play W40k or battletech, watching stream is not really a "hobby".

[Anonymous No.]

>>32731747
Well then, harass the girls into oblivion like the chinks did

[Anonymous No.]

>>32733310
yes

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>>32736211
>a fanbase full of Twitter and RedditTards that celebrate the fact they have males and females in the same Discord and game servers.
Literally the only thing different about that and how it used to be in the Before Times is that people hadn't heard of Discord yet.

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>>32731747
Next stage of the plan there will be creating /reddit/ and /discord/ board

[Anonymous No.]

/b/omu boobpuff

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>>32733547
GSH

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>>32732527
>have a stock at 1m
You are fucking stupid, make a better analogy. It’s insulting that I share the same air as you. You fucking triggered my inner /biz/ holy fucking shit go fucking die.

[Anonymous No.]

>reee i cant be a cringe ass pedophile anymore
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

People need to anti harder than the Zhangs did and force Cover to snip off the tumor that is EN just like they did HoloCN

[Anonymous No.]

>>32747647
https://youtu.be/mKue4WuagL8

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>>32733137
If you're more extreme than an idolfag you should just be committed to a hospital. Stop using your non-understanding of idol culture to justify your faggotry.

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>>32731747
reddit kiddies, who's your oshi? mine is korone

[Anonymous No.]

The reason NijiEN sucks is because the fanbase of straight men fucked off and left around a month into Noctyx and was replaced by straight women
None of you are being replaced, the same people who like Hololive are the ones watching Holostars and it shows in their sub growth

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>>32731747
OK but answer this question
Why do (you) and this goes ever everyone who reads this think you deserve to be catered to that you wants and tastes matter. I'm not saying this to accuse but to understand why you all think your wants and superior to the normalfags.

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>>32731747
anyone not agreeing with this is a tourist

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>>32747901
I don't know what you mean, the thing black dude made sounded pretty cool.

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>>32748911
Yeah but why do you believe that you deserve to experience that. Why is having your tastes catered to better than having someone else tastes as dominant.
Or in other words why do you deserve to feel happiness this way compared to a normalfag.

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>>32731747
Reminder that this image was created in response to Magic: The Gathering having an advertising campaign featuring women and dudebros playing the game and not a single pasty fat player. This coincided with changing a lot of fundamental rules to simplify the game.

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>>32731747
Even if male collabs become the norm who cares? If you don't like them don't watch them, it's not like every stream they do will be a male collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>32749077
>why do you believe that you deserve to experience that
I don't even deserve to breathe

[Anonymous No.]

Who cares? I keep donating to my oshi and fucking my gf while shitposting about whatever the fuck i want.

Seriously, what is the obssesion of being a cuck? Just talk to real people, and if you can't because you're retarded, do a favor to the world and stop breathing, like, who is gonna miss you? Your oshi? top kek

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>>32735257
Unicorns will never admit that they weren't the original target audience. They're an invasive species trying to subvert a community that never should've been theirs

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>>32731747
> let your voice be heard and vote with your wallet
This IS the Reddit/twitter line, faggot. There are straight males there too. The line has always been “If you don’t like it, vote with your wallet and your views.” The contempt for unicorns has always been how they treat it like it’s a moral thing, as if collabing with males and ditching your old audience is wrong, rather than a business decision that may or may not pan out.
I also hope Holo and Niji recline so we can arrive at an equilibrium where EN is split between chuubas who collab with males and chuubas who don’t/rarely collab. The difference is just that I don’t feel the need to personally get mad at Ame or Mori or Kronii.

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>>32732450
Yeah that was the state of affairs back in 2018.
You're outing yourself to be a total newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive is a cancer on this medium. We need to return to Kizuna Ai-like full-body motion capture with 100% commitment to their character. Get rid of the vapid, videogame-playing whores (all of Hololive) and return to quality content.

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>>32733453
>Then ethyria came and fucked up all the momentum they had.
Fixed that for you

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>>32735753
The one joy of this board is having so many who staunchly defend the rules against the green menace. There may be hope yet, but it remains to be seen

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>>32740109
>original people never enjoyed it in the first place?
>t. green

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>>32749211
And look at magic now. Pic rel

[Anonymous No.]

>>32734078
Virtual Youtubing should have been left as a site-wide topic (like anime) that can be posted on any board.

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>>32750143
These people unironically act like me when I was in middle school. I thought everyone was out to get me because I was autistic when no, I was just an unlikeable asshole. I became much less of an asshole and just an ordinary autist who occasionally says awkward shit, and things got much better for me immediately.
We hate unicorns because they’re assholes. We don’t hate you for what you believe, we hate you because you’re annoying, and there’s a 70% chance more people would be relieved than sad if you necked yourself

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>>32731747
no one here is the black GUY
neck yourselves

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>>32750935
the irony

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>>32747901
It’s worse than that. There are enough non-unicorns who just prefer watching girls that plenty of vtubers exist who don’t collab with males. They’re mad that the vtuber *they* watch collabs with males. I don’t want all vtubers to collab with males all the time, but if Kronii and Ame like collabing with Tempus, then I’d rather ditch them and let them be happy than be mad at them for doing something they like.

[Anonymous No.]

The unicorn menace will ve vanquished soon inshallah.

https://youtu.be/VlhQZFTvAn4

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>>32735257
Drawing 3 circles is not an argument lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>32751083
Being self-aware of it and trying to improve it is FAR better than excusing it with "muh autism", you don't have autism, you're just a fucking douchbag.

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>>32751347
>douchbag
I don't think I've ever seen this word used here in 12 years I browse this site. Genuinely only Twittercucks use it.
I wish you die of brain cancer you tourist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32751484
>12 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>32731747
Just take your meds, simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>32731747
>let your voice be heard and vote with your wallet
>he actually believes in this
you have to be an adult to post here

[Anonymous No.]

>>32736630
This entire site is a conglomerate of social rejects, I've been here for 16 years now and that has always been the case. In all my time I just wanted to be autistic in peace with other like minded people, but I'm not allowed to any more because you people keep coming here telling me that because I'm autistic I have less value than you. I will continue to hold my beliefs instead of bending the knee to an authoritarian group until I die.

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>>32749843
It's like if a radio station that used to play only jazz started including death metal songs. You could turn off the radio during these songs, but perhaps the whole point of listening to the station was to hear only the jazz music.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32751876
based

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>>32751876
>This entire site is a conglomerate of social rejects
No, you just wasted your 20's like a retard
>I just wanted to be an annoying fag in peace with other like mentally ill people
fixed
>but I'm not allowed to any more because you people keep coming here telling me that because I'm autistic I have less value than you
Yes, you're correct, you have less value because you never improved your ways like, i don't know, everyone else? I'm still here because i enjoy the site, not because i'm autistic or anything, for those "16 years" you misguide yourself for believing this site is full of people like you, and now you're realizing isn't the case. The fact you're watching a media where people can and will donate money to anime LARPers mean you need to work and reach some degree of self-awareness to keep your hobbies. Meaning, you either are just LARPing as a oldfag, or you're a waste of air who keeps living in your mom house, which is worse than death, you're over.
>I will continue to hold my beliefs instead of bending the knee to an authoritarian group until I die.
Watch NHK ni Youkoso, you have a time limit, tic toc nigger.

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>>32751106
This is an extremely disingenuous take. No other group has the same feel and dynamics that Hololive does.
Regardless of whether you think they're true idols or not, they feel like and have the dynamics of an all female group because they actually were with the vast majority of their content being just girls.
There wouldn't be an issue if people actually believed that these collabs are just one off things and there would be significant periods of time between them. We've been having them at least once a week.
The EN Stars are being integrated into Hololive, they aren't Stars in anything but name. This is like if an actual Idol group brought guys in to be a part of the whole group.
People like you keep saying that you can just ignore the collabs but that isn't true when they happen too often that they start to change the dynamics and feel of the whole branch.
If you don't like the culture and atmosphere that Holo had built up and had nurtured for years now, maybe you're the one that should go somewhere else, there are plenty of other options. Stop trying to invade and push Holo to change.

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>>32751876
Back then we were telling you to an hero as well.
Fuck off already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32751974
Or you could be using Spotify and create a playlist of jazz songs, use your fucking brain

[Anonymous No.]

>>32752359
What would the vtuber equivalent be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32752256
>I'm still here because i enjoy the site
草

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>>32752256
You're not wrong, but at the same time you're not really arguing against his stance, either. Gura is arguably a "social reject" yet is very successful, and there are plenty of others like that in society who are successful without being normalfags. Nonetheless, at some point they do need to learn how to deal with people if they want to get married etc., and yes, there is a "time limit" for that. It's just that some people don't naturally prioritize that (at least at first), whereas others do.
You can't really invalidate what others seek, just like you can't really make them realize what they're devaluing. People come here as a form of entertainment and distraction because it's what's interesting to them, just like how normalfags go out and socialize and party as their form of entertainment and distraction. But at their core they doing otherwise as a form of compromise, you're not going to be able to change what they fundamentally value.
Anyway, trying to change something that has value to a group of people is wrong, whether they use it for growth or stagnation.

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>>32733547
the unicorns' methods and beliefs are often extreme, inflammatory and contributes negatively to the good cause, but at least they're on the good side

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>>32731747
>there's twitter and reddit normies raiding the board
Yeah, me

[Anonymous No.]

>>32740800
One of them is Mexican, the other one is a woman, the last one I agree is a SEAnigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>32731747
>130 replies
twitterfags and redditards are seething hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>32731747
I love the fact that people constantly assume we're being raided.
I'm a shitposter, and unicorns are easy as fuck to mess with. why wouldn't I go against them.

[Anonymous No.]

Absolutely right OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>NOOOOOOOOO NOT THE IDOLERINO CULTURE, NOT THE HECKING IDOLERINO CULTURE
Grow up

[Anonymous No.]

>>32739132
This really is the funniest part of all this. If they just kept their fucking mouths shut, then the collabs would just come and go, but NOOOO, the schizos simply HAVE to let the world know how fucked in the head they are, so now the girls have an actual INCENTIVE to keep collabing with the guys, because doing so will filter out all these retards.

[Anonymous No.]

BEHAVE LIKE AN IDOL
GET TREATED LIKE AN IDOL
BEHAVE LIKE A WHORE
BE TREATED LIKE A WHORE

[Anonymous No.]

>>32764354
There is a reason you will die single.

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>>32731747
Have you ever given it a thought that you are the Reddit normies (but from r/OKBuddyHololive instead of the other hugbox) you are complaining about? We tried to warn you faggots 2 years ago that male collabs were part and parcel of all of VTubing, and Hololive is not immune to it. By your ridiculous logic, wouldn't all of Hololive Gens 0-2 + Gamers be unsubbable because they collabed with a male years and years ago? And why pit those newer against those older if yes? You're not the target audience if your intention is to be a culture warrior. Many of us just want to watch our oshis in PEACE. But no, you have to ruin another hobby I PERSONALLY ENJOYED away from you unbearable faggots.

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>>32764354
So collabs that happened years and years ago warrant uncalled for abuse? Gotcha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32732485
I may have to thank you if it means weeding out the most extreme of unicorns away from my oshi. But if your intention is to give them more antis then fuck you faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32765678
>We
Ok Redditor

[Anonymous No.]

If you really want to piss the unicorns off just have them scroll through Kenmochi's followers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32765571
Who cares. At least I didn't support whores.

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>>32766200
Yes, we, Mythkiddie. Hololive and Nijisanji, female and male, they are not enemies. Stop fighting your cringe battle everywhere. They are all friends behind the scenes, they can all collab with whoever they want, and you are a tourist from /v/ who would hate VTubers if you were exposed to the 2018-19 scene.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32766235
Yeah you do. You just don't know it.
You will never fuck your oshi.
You are paying for her to fuck someone else down the line, however, if not already fucking.
Good job, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32766235
I'm sure whatever Taliban VTuber agency comes in the future they'll be just right for you, faggot. Kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>32731747
you're assuming that this "hobby" started /here/ which is a lie and you're assuming that /vt/ has any power which is an even bigger lie

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>>32752258
> No other group has the same feel and dynamics that Hololive does.
Sure, but if I had a group of friends and we all became famous, and a bunch of my fans got mad because I made a new friend they didn’t like, I wouldn’t give a fuck. I wouldn’t care if the friend group’s dynamic changed because of that, as long as it was in a way that we, the actual members of the fan group, liked.
They’re not *your* friends, you’re just watching. Instead of getting mad someone you don’t know is making friends you don’t like, maybe think about how lucky you were to even get to watch the year or two of material you did get to watch.
Besides, let’s just say you’re still into vtubers five or ten years from now. Did you really think you would be watching the same chuubas in five years, even before Tempus debuted? Be honest.

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>>32766639
ffs dude, Hololive has had made collabs since their very beginnings. Why are you acting so surprised? You were warned of this in advance.

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>>32766639 (me)
*friend group, not fan group

Point is, friendships and friend groups change. The only thing that determines how and when and why is what the people in the group think. Everyone else who’s watching is just the audience—if you make your voices too loud, of course the people in the fan group are going to try to get rid of you before they get rid of one of their actual friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32766688
I’m arguing that people who don’t like male collabs (including me) should just watch less and start switching corpos instead of bitching about it. I’m pretty sure we’re on the same side here

[Anonymous No.]

>>32766725
Are you aware that group has had some people that you may not have been aware of when you walked into it? The irony is completely lost on you if you chose not to acknowledge their existence when it was right there. Lest if you were uninformed, I feel even sorrier for you.

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>>32766785
Yeah I don't want unicorns near Hololive at all. They've ruined the experience for me, and I don't even like male VTubers or Nijisanji for the most part. I still don't pretend that their collabs never happened even though they did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32766420
>Taliban VTuber agency
I wish that were real, islam is right about women.

[Anonymous No.]

remember to fight against the browns (unicorns and schizos) to keep our hobby safe!

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>>32766467
>gUISS DiD you kNOW Nobody caReESSs
Why are you here then you braindead faggot??
Himalayan bee keeper channel is no more or less worthless than reddit or any other social media.
People only care if somebody screams loud enough for some journos to turn it into a political issue.
Chubas dont even see the shit posted here cause threads are messy and get deleted.

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>>32766820
I think you’re misunderstanding my point. I was aware that there were male collabs in the past, and I didn’t care. I didn’t care when Tempus debuted. I don’t mind a few male collabs, and if it gets to be too much, there are other alternatives to HoloEN.
What I’m saying is that the male collabs aren’t being done under “homobeggar” pressure, they’re being done because the girls like hanging out with Tempus. Therefore, I don’t mind that they do the collabs, even though I personally don’t like watching them. Because it’s none of my business.

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>>32766899
What about Cleveland Brown?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32766862
>ruined the experience for me
>>32766785
>start switching corpos instead of bitching about it
You people are not even on the same side

[Anonymous No.]

Just stop watching and donating. Do it silently, they will get the message. Very few people can endure huge drops on the levels of money and affection they get

[Anonymous No.]

>>32766980
Then we're on the same page. The problem is many people don't seem to get the nuance of that. Which troubles me because I just want to simply enjoy Hololive, something integral to my life since the 2nd half of 2019, in peace. And just so you know, I hate the people that want to change the culture even more than those who want to preserve it, but for the wrong reasons.

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>>32767069
I don't think EOPs drifting away from some of the more popular members like Miko or Subaru because of a few collabs many years ago really matters dude.

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>>32767069
Stop thinking this shithole matters son. This shithole is a minority of a minority in the fanbase of any of them. Literally any of them.
The only people that have fanbases almost if not entirely from here are indies, particularly ones that pander directly to here.

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>>32767069
Boycotting streamers doesnt work.
Theres too many robots mindlessly shoveling money at their face for them to ever even give a thought to the lower 90%.
It doesnt matter if your concerns are right or wrong if whatever the streamer does makes them tons of money they must be doing everything right in their eyes.

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>>32767256
Yeah it baffles me that people think Hololive's target audience is 4chan or anywhere else on the Internet for all that matter. Hololive was for Japanese fans initially, having overseas support is just a bonus IMO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32766235
Yeah your mother would know

[Anonymous No.]

95% of EOP holofags are tourists to the hobby. You were never part of the fanbase or hobby until now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32767256
>>32767316
The 4chan equivalent of ironic weeaboos

[Anonymous No.]

I've come to hate certain groups of you people so much i'm content to sit back and watch it go in flames just to drink some tears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32771189
Facts hurt, don't they?
You are not important to them. Never have been. None of us are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32771729
That's funny because the most important vtuber caters to us

[Anonymous No.]

>>32767493
I was concived by artificial insemination. Your mother might be a whore, mine is not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32771189
Were the 13 viewers who watched Sora from 4chan? I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32771881
Marine doesn't know what 4chan is, loser.

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>>32771881
And this is where you are either going to say something stupid, or even dumber, mention a smaller indie / corpo, proving the point more.
So what one is it? Are you going to mention how someone mentions a few generic EPIC MAYMAYS and that means she wants to sleep with you? Ame isn't it? Or is it Risu? Or dumber yet, are you seriously going to say Pippa or Bea?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32771979
>>32772062
>>32772110
How about you explain what catering to 4chan would mean and then we'll talk because I think you forgot what thread you're in :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>32772239
Nigger did you unironically think that YAGOO and Sora thought of 4chan first when they created Hololive? Christ almighty you can't be this retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32772329
I'll keep waiting

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>>32772357
Waiting for what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32772239
>>32772357
How about you fuck off instead, unless you post the vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

Just DMCA them any time they try and stream with males

[Anonymous No.]

>>32733310
You’re such a retard it’s funny lol

[Anonymous No.]

>posts pic
>types holoseethe
>leaves

what did I mean by this

[Anonymous No.]

I'm more weary of dramafags trying to stir shit up around here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32772495
Sounds like you're afraid

[Anonymous No.]

>>32772599
>>>/b/

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>>32731747
mucho texto

[Anonymous No.]

When I first came to this board I appreciated you guys didnt shriek about women and minorities and trannies 24/7 but this place has become newfaggy enough where its almost impossible to tell when someone is baiting or just THAT retarded.

It's especially funny when they talk about this place as if it's the most bigoted shithole in the world, making it obvious this board is their first unless they came from /lgbt/ or something

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>>32731963
I remember when /vt/ started and times were more peaceful. "Look at my wife" or general appreciation posts were more common and memes like suipiss or /become/ were the most mentally ill things on here.
The last few months here haven't been as fun anymore since the shizos have taken over. Nothing good lasts.

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>>32731747
>>32735257
>>32735753
>>32764354
First, check this and look at the date it was streamed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Tnv-sXqy4

I find it extremely funny all this faggots larping as unicorns or oldfags are post 2020 and most on the west side only appeared after /vt/ creation and have no idea that early holos survived on the back of male collabs.
After holos achieved viral success was when all these undesirables came into the picture and started lashing out, before then pic rel was a common occurrence and no one batted an eye
IIRC correctly the first instance of unicorns sperging out was the aqua super smash bros collab that led to her first meltdown and it's now private, so as you can unicorns were always a negative that exist only to cause grief to the holos they allegedly love.

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>>32782127
You're just going to cause an exodus, but I'll thank you for it later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32733310
Why the fuck are you even here you disgusting twitterfag, go back and complain about us to your normalfag friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>32736630
Yeah no, how about you go back to your discord and fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>32740109
The normalfags don't actually support any of the girls financially in any significant number, and all they do is open them up to global twittertard scrutiny with constant cancellations
Recently there was a gurame artist who was cancelling gura for being a lolicon
How the fuck they just now found out about it is very telling, these normalfags don't actually watch these girls and just watch random, socially acceptable clips

[Anonymous No.]

>Kiara literally exposing every beggar and making them cry nonstop
There's never a boring day in this board holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32782127
>undesirables came into the picture
>same time as popularity explosion
>Somehow unicorns are the minority
You're a joke who deserved to be aborted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32767256
Anon, we literally caused kronii to go on break after having a meltdown about whether shipping with coworkers is gross or not

[Anonymous No.]

>>32782993
Kronii went on break because she's a dumb bitch who reads clip comments. If anything, clipwatchers on Youtube caused her to go on break.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32782127
Kiara literally mindbroke you, hololive is an idol company, homobeggars have no place here

[Anonymous No.]

>>32782945
When did the argument turn into the number of audience? Looking at the image, (You) guys are the green and brown guys just in bigger numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>32783092
That was us, everywhere besides here is a hugbox, so when the girls see one of our comments out in a youtube comments section, they aren't used to actually getting realistic criticism for their actions and it causes yabs to happen.
Condom money for connor, for example, was a deadbeat from here who just wanted to make a joke

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>>32782737
>unicorns trying to cancel holos for interacting with males just because the secondary community memed them as pure idols
sounds about right

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>>32783107
Kiara will have no place in holopro and will keep falling to obscurity with her 2k live views, literally nijisanji tier, at this rate chicken woman will have Scarle level views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32731747
That image isn't even remotely accurate since this hobby wasn't started by you retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32783375
Delusional, Kiara has had better stream numbers this entire month compared to mori
How much cope are you on anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32783219
Idolfags -> Unicornfags -> Normalfags -> You guys who want to force male collabs instead of respecting choices

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>>32783279
No, it wasn't a unicorn, it was a artfag leech that just makes art of whatever is trending to drive engagment to their twitter
They didn't actually know anything about hololive and started denouncing gura and apologized for their own work

These are the people that draw connor x ironmouse art, shipfaggotry is cancellation central

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>>32783546
I'm not a homobeggar. Actually, I see now what you mean with the one who sent Kiara a superchat

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>>32782945
>first holos achieve viral popularity
>clip industry explodes
>some time later the undesirables start lashing out at holos
You were never the reason of their popularity nigger you came along when they were already propped and comfortable to shit on their plates.
>>32783107
Kiara is cool I respect her position. I think if an holo doesn't want to participate in a male collab it's all her right to refuse, I am not a beggar, but i also think that any nigger bashing the girls for deciding to participate should kill themselves as the genetic dead ends they are.
Both ends of the spectrum are retarded and irrational, just respect people decision and act like a civilized human being
>>32783375
Kill yourself I am not an anti so don't even try to hijack my post for your retarded campaign Any holo including is and will always be a thousand times more successful than you will ever be. So save yourself the pain and end it now.

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>>32782127
>3 years ago
again why people always bring up Miko males collabs? how is this gonna help you in argument when as soon as she went to the idol route she stopped collabing with males

[Anonymous No.]

>>32783877
>start shit
>get clapped back with facts
>n-no YOU CANT DO THAT
KFP truly is weak.

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>>32783877
>I am not a beggar
You're not fooling anyone nigger.
>Both ends of the spectrum are retarded and irrational, just respect people decision and act like a civilized human being
Yet you're bashing only one side of the spectrum, kill yourself

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>>32782127
>early holos survived on the back of male collabs
>posts a single male collab
Surely you have many more examples to back that statement up, right?

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>>32783877
Also fucking faggot you outed yourself as a same fag.

you made this post
>>32782127

then this post which I replied too
>>32783107
you then reply to yourself and say you respect Kiara and then get mad at me for ''hijacking your post'' even though I replied to the second post, can't make this shit up.

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>>32782127
stop larping as an oldfag discord tranny
> early holos survived on the back of male collabs.
they didn't survive shit they were literally 2 views failures they only got popular after they went into idols

[Anonymous No.]

>>32782737
>gurame artist who was cancelling gura for being a lolicon
name?

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>>32783877
I have zero respect for anyone who applied for an idol company, profitted from it, and now wants to turn it into shipfaggotry central instead of just graduating and joining their real life friends in vshojo

Mori can go collab with men all she wants with ironmouse, hime and akidearest

[Anonymous No.]

>>32783890
Because "muh degradation of the hobby" retards keep larping as if the build hololive from the ground up when that wasn't the case, they are are as much of a foreign agent as homobeggars are,

[Anonymous No.]

>>32784461
https://twitter.com/Jjay_Kkay/with_replies
The definition of a normalfag, found out gura was problematic from tiktok, these people are predictable bots

[Anonymous No.]

>>32784710
idolsfags made hololive popular so basically they built the hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>32784137
Certainly brother https://youtu.be/NVecdAS-eI4?t=703
Sadly one has to search pretty hard since most holo content going that far back is private, but there's some evidence sprinkled of some of the external channels that participated on those collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32785210
so were there views skyrocket after males collabs? I keep seeing nijifags saying hololive leech off nijisanji early days

[Anonymous No.]

>>32783877
>clip industry explodes
I wonder why it happened after the male collabs stopped coming. Ah yes, it's because you're full of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32785210
>Sadly one has to search pretty hard since most holo content going that far back is private
What a fucking disingenuous gaslighting faggot you are, aren't you.
The reason why you can't find most of the pre-idol hololive vids is because of the fucking holocaust purging all the old stream videos

Embarrassing, L after L after L

[Anonymous No.]

>>32785210
Anon, you posted a single collab, again. There's not even Miko in this one...

[Anonymous No.]

>>32785456
They did not, hololive transitioned into a idol group because their collabs with the male talent in nijisanji wasn't warranting them any of the female audience that was watching the men.
So they transitioned the holo's into idols, content for male viewers and thats when hololive skyrocketed and left nijisanji in the dust.

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>>32785644
There were a bunch of collabs, but this was when covercorp was a vr tech company and the girls were just mascotrs to advertise the tech.
They transitioned to idols because the girls weren't getting any fucking numbers compared to nijisanji, because the nijisanji men they were collabing with were actually making content to appeal to fujo's and yumejoshi

[Anonymous No.]

keep defending these en faggotries you will regret it

[Anonymous No.]

>>32785049
Negative, fortuitous events and good providence made hololive popular, yagoo stumbled ass first into success and the girls were pretty good entertainers so the ball kept rolling.
>Christmas miracle had nothing to do with idolfags
>clip virality had nothing to do with idolfags
>covid had nothing to do with idolfags
It was never idolfags, if anything it was hololive that turned its already existing audience into something akin to an idolfag then extremists came along wich led to current year situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32785565
The fuck, he did not say why those videos are hard if not impossible to find, why are you correcting him as if he said something false? You'd have a point if he went "oh they're privated because they're male collabs" but he didn't. Unless you're referring to the fact that he called those videos "private" which they fucking are because not every video was purged.

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>>32785910
MOSTost of those videos aren't private you faggot, they were purged, youtube was still developing their stream vod system during this time and it's why they were clapped

Don't fucking talk to me you tourist, go shill your homo's somewhere else like the cuck you are, maybe try /gif/

[Anonymous No.]

>>32782127
So what they only inclined when all Holos going for idol route, idolfags and gachikois literally saved Hololive. 3 years ago Holos did everything to survive by doing collab with ton of indie and Niji but they couldn't make it until all members started doing concerts like Azki/Sora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32739132
I can sympathize with them a bit because at this rate the male collabs would be a norm rather than a once in a while thing like JP
But holy fuck a lot of them are retards and don't know how to go against the male collabs in a subtle way
They would even use SC to show they are schizos roru
Just drop the chuubas and let the chuubas decide whether male collabs are good for business or not

[Anonymous No.]

>>32785887
lol people only watched hololive because muh idols breaking their characters
Do you really think hololive would popular without the idol standard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32731965
Where are they,i don't see any.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32785887
Why is there a youtube url in that graph instead of a description of what it is? It's not even available anymore so it's useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32740109
>Throwing SC
>Watch streams
>Buy merchs
>Willing to dedicate their time
Do normies do that? Some of them even got adblock for their YT, so what is their contribution?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32786151
>Most
You just proved my point, that not all VODs were purged. Didn't say most either, just "not all of them".
>Don't fucking talk to me you tourist, go shill your homo's somewhere else like the cuck you are, maybe try /gif/
Nice assumption bro, and nice to see that you can only hurl insults and accusations like a child throwing a tantrum. Because everyone who disagrees with you or simply tries to correct you, like you yourself do by the way, is a homo loving cuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32740109
>I don't understand why everyone hates normies coming in
It's a simple comprehension issue, don't worry about it, even if we explain to you how unprofitable it is to go after the widest audience possible when it comes to niche otaku hobbies, you wouldn't understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>32767002
he's cool I liked his verse in Sicko Mode

[Anonymous No.]

>>32733533
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>32786527
You sound like a faggot and you will be treated like one, never respond to another anon using bad faith arguments like,"well MOST DOESNT MEAN AALLLLLL"

Kill yourself, you are a midwit faggot who's opinion is not cared for, warranted, nor listened to, because you exist inside a vacuum of being a normalfag in an otaku hobby

[Anonymous No.]

>>32733533
hololive made vtubers popular nobody even knew kizuna ai was a vtuber until hololive came

[Anonymous No.]

>>32785887
That's very disingenuous. There were plenty of Nijisanji clips too circulating during the boom of clips in early 2020, yet people got captivated mostly by the Hololive shit which was already completely devoted to CGDCT content. Males have NEVER been part of the equation in Hololive's success. Stop fucking larping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32785644
The post i quoted asking for more examples had a shion pic so it was apt to post one with shion in it.
>>32786294
ah yeah the yagoo dream meme, goes to show what popularized holo in the west.
>>32786466
din din din

[Anonymous No.]

>>32786739
You like assuming a lot don't you? Again, everyone who disagrees with you is a normalfag homo loving cuck. Keep raging on and telling anonymous people on forums to kill themselves for having a different opinion than you.
Also, yeah, most doesn't mean all. It's not a bad faith argument, it's the definition of the word. Not my problem if you didn't know that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32742333
But I thought you hated the chinks way of doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32750565
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>32787346
Nice one, tourist

[Anonymous No.]

>>32731747
Not reading the meme but
>don't let holo EN become niji EN. don't allow an environment to form that's welcoming of these twitter and reddit normies
HoloEN is about a thousand times more popular on reddit than NijiEN. Your understanding of who the normies are here is completely backwards