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Mother's day edition

Previous thread: >>3449910

>> No.3489925

Does anyone know how long Aqua's 3D live will be?
It starts one hour before Kiara planned her karaoke re-broadcast and I can see her delaying it to not overlap with Aqua.

>> No.3489938
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Blessed

>> No.3489940
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NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA
IM 100% NIGGA

>> No.3489951
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Kiara is smart and pure

>> No.3489998

did Mori give Kiara the n-word pass?

>> No.3490025

>>3489998
She did "am frog" to show support for her.

>> No.3490134
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I'm getting withdrawals again. I need to see her

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>>3490134
Damn nigga!

>> No.3490205
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Just when as a new timeloop was starting, she throws us a curveball and becomes the official HoloEN niggertuber... How does she do it? She's so based, I love her so much...

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>>3490205
The first ever HoloEN member to say the n-word on stream. Truly a pioneer..

>> No.3490318
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I've got three new edits for my fellow headband-only chads.
Original: https://twitter.com/ouncemilia/status/1391120799839531009

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Original: https://twitter.com/SandFish7777/status/1391101876439973890

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Original: https://twitter.com/KeroKairu/status/1391107708103761920/

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>>3490308
>Not the wigger rapper
>Not the seething gamer
>Not the dank memer
>Not the obviously racist korean
It was the bubbly happy j-pop idol. What a world.

>> No.3490362

Why did the least popular EN girl get the best new outfit with the most accessories, while the most popular EN girl gets the worst with no accessories?

Is Covers reasoning that the smaller talents need to be pushed more while the bigger talents do not need support? If so, should they not invest most into Holostars?

>> No.3490392

>>3490318
>>3490328
>>3490343
based headband bro

>> No.3490429

>>3490318
>>3490328
>>3490343
Based

>> No.3490510
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>>3490362
>Gura
>gets debuffed by shit rigging
>highest viewcount despite this
>helps hype genmates in collabs
>Kiara
>single best artist and rigging
>debuffs her genmates in collabs

>> No.3490532

>>3490362
From what I've seen, in Hololive the squeaky wheel gets the oil. I think the other girls probably asked for accessories and were clearer with their requirements for the model, while Gura was offerred this rigger's work to start with and was always too cute to ask for more. Same reason the other girls have gotten more singles and collabs with HoloJPs. I wish her genmates would help Gura try to ask for more stuff.

>> No.3490645

>>3490532
Gura is an adult. She can make these decisions herself and she definitely doesn't need someone else tell her how to live her life.
Maybe she didn't want any accessories/high-quality rigging because they aren't important to her and she'd rather focus her energy on making betrer content for her streams. Fuck off with this concernfagging and thinking you know what's best for her.

>> No.3490648

>>3490362
Because japs love to work with Kiara.
Meanwhile they can't even remember Same-chan's name.

>> No.3490723

>>3490648
>Because japs love to work with Kiara.
Are you sure? It always feels so awkward when I see Kiara interact with a jap girl. Pekora was the worst one.

>> No.3490837

>>3490362
Kiara already explained how the costume process works on her stream.
Either you leave it up to the artist or you provide guidelines and requests.
My bet is Gura only asked for cat ears so that's all she got.
In Hololive almost nothing is just handed out to you (Kiara also explained this), you have to put in the effort to get what you want and organize projects yourself.

>> No.3490862

>>3490723
Kiara was too star-struck during their actual collab and Pekora too nervous about messing up.
Kiara is a nousagi and Pekora wants to treat nousagis well.

After their short interaction when Kiara build the KFP in Pekoland Pekora praised her unpromted on her own stream.

Watame liked their scuffed Phogs collab so much she now organises a collab with Kiara, Mori and Iofi which is rare for her to shoulder something so big.

Kiara plays a rude foreigner but they seem to enjoy that.

>> No.3490881

>>3490645
This ain't concernfagging anon, no one's asking for high-quality rigging, just the bare minimum for the literal biggest vtuber on the planet.

>> No.3490885

>>3490837
In Kiara's case Huke was particularly enthusiastic about proposing additional accessories, notably the cat ears/tail and pacifcier. Perhaps he wanted to spice up a notably simple outfit, but what is clear is that he knew Kiara well enough to make these suggestions.

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>>3490723
Japanese people being uncomfortable around a white person who was trying to make it in their country? Truly unheard of.
I'm so glad Kiara's back home, hope she never goes to live there again.

>> No.3490916

>>3490837
>you have to put in the effort to get what you want and organize projects yourself
For an alleged "idol company", they sure act nothing like one.

>> No.3490925

>>3490837
If Gura only asked for cat ears, then she should have the best fucking cat ears there are. Instead she got ears that are inferior to Kiaras although Kiaras ears arent even part of her main outfit, but just an accessory.

>> No.3490958

>>3490837
anons going >cover isnt just a meme
the company does almost nothing for the individual holo, on the other hand you get the reach for bigger stuff like sponsors and concerts.
must be hell as an indie to arrange licensing for a cover

>> No.3491016

Also we're at 994k, stream Heart Challenger to get it to a million.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpSLiHAYe7k

>> No.3491062

>>3490881
>no one's asking for high-quality rigging
Then, fuck off? Unless you are literally Gura, you shouldn't speak for her. If she's happy with her rig, I'm happy with her rig.

>> No.3491075

>>3490723
The JP girls won't talk or collab with you if they don't want to. The fact they still talk to Kiara means they like her to some extent.
>>3490916
At heart they're still a tech company. A shitty tech company but still one regardless.
>>3490958
Being part of the brand is a big platform to try to accomplish your dreams. Also being part of the Hololive branch pretty much guarantees a lot of money.
Indies don't have to deal with cover permissions most of the time, the moment you become part of a company though they (artist/publishers) want their money.

>> No.3491127

>>3491062
Shit anon, if someone pays 10000 bucks to get something and it's clearly a piece crap worth a hundredth the price, are you not allowed to think they got scammed?

>> No.3491138

>>3491075
>The JP girls won't talk or collab with you if they don't want to. The fact they still talk to Kiara means they like her to some extent.
I am pretty sure they still collab with you if they think they can get more views that way. Kiara is probably just more comfortable to work with because they can actually have conversations with her and that is why they more often collab with her than with the other EN girls, regardless of what they think of her privately.
Just look at how many collabs Ollie is getting despite everybody hating her.

>> No.3491209

>>3491127
Who's to say they didn't just spend 10 bucks?
It's not our money, not our problem.

>> No.3491228

>>3489998
Some black anon on /vt/ gave the pass to her.

>> No.3491279

At least she didn't said it with the hard R, otherwise it could be really bad.

>> No.3491383

>>3491279
The nene's nigger was worse and for this one she immediately apologized for it afterwards and said she'll remove it. Nobody got upset since it was clearly an accident so she'll be fine

>> No.3491470

>>3491383
Yeah, its a nothingburger but nene is a jp girl so most people just ignore it, but Kiara on the other hand is a milk white european who understand the word, people get cancelled for way less nowadays.

>> No.3491503

>>3491470
Eh, people are way less buttblasted about this kind of stuff outside of the US.

>> No.3491505

>>3491470
have you watched the clip? i don't see how anyone could construct anything harmful out of it. it is literally nothing. stop concernfagging you little bitches.

>> No.3491516

>>3490890
Thankfully it sounds like she doesn't plan on actually living there anymore.
She will still visit but that should be fine - a fluent weeb who thinks Japan is the bestest thing in the world tickles the japs the right way. As long as she stays a foreigner and doesn't try to settle down.

>> No.3491558

So why did Kiara's latest Minecraft stream get trimmed? I still don't see the chat replay, so I assume it was edited.

>> No.3491579 [DELETED] 

>>3490890
The only reason Kiara was depressed in Japan was because of her cats missing and the fact that for some reason the lived in a rat-infested run-down shit tier apartment despite earning a quadrillion $ each month

Both issues are fixable desu

>> No.3491626

>>3491558
The last time one of her streams had to be trimmed it disappeared for 24 hours. The Minecraft stream was there the entire time.
Timestamps of people also seem still correct, even those late in the video.

Doesn't look like it got trimmed, YT is just terrible at everything it does.

>> No.3491787

https://files.catbox.moe/1u74va.mp4

>> No.3491803

>>3490362
This is most probably bait, but let's just clear this up anyway in case tourist newfags are watching and take away the wrong impression for future timeloops around this topic.

The idea that Cover goes around thinking "ah yes, we're purposefully making our bigger talents look worse (like wth, do you think Yagoo personally told the rigger to fuck up Gura's ear?) for ~reasons~" is so asinine, it doesn't even deserve a second of consideration. First of all, it would rely on >Cover doing anything, and we know how that goes.
Instead, what you're seeing is not a difference of preferential treatment by Cover, but simply a difference of attitude/personality by the talents themselves. Namely, pro-active versus passive.
So when you ask:
>Why did the least popular EN girl get the best new outfit with the most accessories
The answer is simply "because she asked for it". (oh and mind you, that means asking directly the modeler&rigger for it, not Cover the agency who you falsely think "gives out" or denies accessories to talents based on popularity or whatever).
>while the most popular EN girl gets the worst with no accessories?
same answer, because she didn't ask for more?

Like, I can understand how chumbabs feel they got shafted, but you don't have to cope by making up a conspiracy about how it was big bad Cover that purposefully sabotaged your oshi (or worse, try to drag others down by demanding they should also have a worse outfit and don't "deserve" it), just because you can't accept the most probable explanation: That Gura herself was just too passive to demand better.

It's the same fucking timeloop that comes up every time some genius asks why "Hurr durr why doesn't ~Cover GIVE~ Gura, the best singer, her own original song finally, meanwhile ~Cover GIVES~ that stupid Kiara half a dozen songs already?!?!". Newsflash you idiot, Cover doesn't give shit to anyone. Kiara has songs because she organized and paid for them herself, and Gura has none (so far) because she simply didn't. If Gura cared as much as Kiara, she could have initialized the same number of songs herself. So again, what you're seeing is not the result of a difference in preferential treatment by the agency, but the difference between proactive and passive talents themselves. I know that's harder to accept, because it would be admitting that the fault lies within your oshi herself and you can't just blame a convenient external scapegoat who's responsible for everything bad that happens anymore, but it's the truth and the sooner you learn it, the less surprised you will be when this keeps happening in the future again.

>> No.3491857
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>>3490723
Pekora was an exception, not the rule. Kiara is a massive pekora fangirl, and pekora was scared of letting her down the entire time, which is only compounded by the fact that Pekoras really socially reclusive around any one who isn't Marine or Miko.

If you want a better example of how she interacts with the JP's, her collabs with Subaru and Nene would be a better representation.

>> No.3491950

>>3491803
>Like, I can understand how chumbabs feel they got shafted, but you don't have to cope by making up a conspiracy about how it was big bad Cover that purposefully sabotaged your oshi (or worse, try to drag others down by demanding they should also have a worse outfit and don't "deserve" it), just because you can't accept the most probable explanation: That Gura herself was just too passive to demand better.

Just look at all the people on this board that genuinely believe enma/jenma is holding Gura back from collabing with JP talents. It's such a huge cope but is spread around as fact now.

>> No.3491985

>>3491803
no meds required and sanity pilled.

>> No.3492000

>>3490723
https://streamable.com/10ug9g
So awkward right

>> No.3492053

>>3491857
Pekora also obviously had no problems with the collab afterwards despite Kiara's explosion at the end.
Soon after the collab was the PekoMama stream and the two holos Pekora mentioned to her mother were Noel - her genmate and someone her mother had seen before - and Kiara.
And a bit later was the 2nd FES and Pekora watched Kiara's reaction to her live on stream.

They lost touch afterwards with Pekora being super busy and Kiara constantly moving but Pekora obviously enjoyed her interaction with Kiara otherwise she could have easily ignored her both times.

>> No.3492054

>>3491803
Based.
Anger at Kiara from people who don't like her is without question exacerbated by her proactive personality and being a go-getter, especially when compared to some of the other talents.

>> No.3492063

>>3491857
>pekora was scared of letting her down the entire time
king rrat

>> No.3492074

>>3492000
I remember the couple days before the collab was a constant timeloop of how it was going to be a disaster. Then it happened and everyone had a good time, including /jp/. And then two hours later it was back to timeloops over how awkward it was.
It's all timeloops man, all timeloops...

>> No.3492173

>>3490318
Nice. We need more headband only fanart.

>> No.3492193

>>3492074
The problem is that most people only remember how a stream ends. So when they look back on the Pekokia collab, all they can think of is Kiara crying at the end. By contrast, if an otherwise subpar stream ends on a high note, then it's remembered fondly.

>> No.3492235

>>3492193
Even that I don't get. It was happy crying, heartwarming if anything. Miko crying when she sung with Sora vibes.

>> No.3492250

>>3491803
>Kiara has songs because she organized and paid for them herself, and Gura has none (so far) because she simply didn't.

Yeah, Matsuri and Kiara almost had to drag Gura to get those two covers out of her and Gura barely advertises them.
Meanwhile Kiara turned Heart Challenger into a meme to counteract the damage of the shadowban even just a little bit.

It's obvious Kiara wants music to be part of her character while Gura doesn't really care about that. Both are fine but the chumbuds fuming about something that is clearly Gura's decision is pretty pathetic.

>> No.3492304

>>3492173
Yeah, it's a real shame we get so few of those. I'll continue making edits when possible and post them here.

>> No.3492333

>>3491803
Based post

>> No.3492367

>>3492250
Makes me wonder how huge Gura would be if she made an effort.
She had the huge momentum and has a huge fanbase and does nothing with it (yet). I think she really had the possibility of being the face of Hololive but it doesn't sound like something she wants at all.

>> No.3492376

>>3490958
Maybe it helps if people started looking at Cover more as a franchise instead of a talent agency.
Just like most fast food chains etc, you get to use the name and reputation. Have easy acces to recources otherwise too expensive or difficult. But if shit needs to get done, you need to do it yourself.

>> No.3492405

>>3492367
She either has imposter syndrome because everything she touches just turns to gold anyway regardless of whether she "tries hard" or not. Or it simply made her lazy and she doesn't really care about being an idol.

>> No.3492462

>>3492367
That's one of the more interesting things about the variety of holos we got in HoloEN. Despite her singing voice, it's clear that Gura joined Hololive to just stream games and chit-chat, same with Ame.
By contrast, Mori and Kiara see it as an opportunity for their respective careers. For them, the actual streaming complements their projects and it's not the main attraction.

>> No.3492510

>>3492367
She probabaly feels a ton of pressure. She adored Aqua and looked up to Fubuki.
Then she said "a" and passed both of them in subscribers without any effort.
Her fanbase being so rabid probably also doesn't help, she might be scared to grow even bigger.

>> No.3492544

>>3491950
>>3491985
>>3492054
Thanks, I just needed to get that off my chest, because this wasn't the first time we've seen this kind of thinking, and will not be the last. Probably should be better posted in /global/ because that's where it occurs most often, but you know it'd be like screaming into a void.

Also, just as a clarifying disclaimer, I don't want to come off too harsh on Gura herself. Having a "passive" personality is not meant to be an insult or a bad thing. In fact it can be a rather good thing, especially in other aspects, like interpersonal relationships, because it makes you easy to get along with, and everybody likes Gura. It's just that in this particular case (demanding a better rigging for yourself) it's a hindrance to improvement. So I'm not "blaming" her specifically, rather if anyone is to blame for all the negativity that followed, this is more directed at that certain type of "fan" who complains about everything else but doesn't see the forest for the trees.

>> No.3492622

>>3492053
Kiara said Pekora invited her to the Pekoland opening too. It's a shame she couldn't be there because of the move; I hope one day they can collab again. Hell, a PekoKiaMoona collab would be kino since they all seem to get along.

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>Wake up
>Apparently I slept through Kiara Takanashi of HololiveEN saying the gamer word
>All the catbox's have expired at this point
G-Guys please tell me its real I need to hear it for myself

>> No.3492683

>>3492624
https://files.catbox.moe/x7nz68.mp4

>> No.3492696

>>3492405
For lack of better examples I'll project myself for a bit here.
The 'lazy' part might be 'first step' syndrome. People used to blame for being lazy, but it was more an irrational fear of fucking things up and not taking any initiative as a result. I guess it comes with the shy/introvert territory. Life has smacked my in the face really hard a few times before I was able to change my ways (only a bit). I think Gura character might overlap a bit with this. So sometimes you need a screeching extrovert like Kiara to pull you along.

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>>3492544
cant wait for gen2 to have a struggling EU holo and Kiara going full mother hen

>>3492624
it's on the cat or wait till the rebroadcast

>> No.3492750

>>3492683
Fuck the way she just "emnemnmehmnem" through all the lyrics until she gets to a loud and crystal clear "My niggas" just kills me every time.

>> No.3492759

>>3492696
Damn, the esl is showing hard. I can't type for shit today.

>> No.3492785

>>3492709
She's cutting it for the rebroadcast so it'll only exist on catbox links. This shits only gonna get circulated here for a few days before people start timelooping again

>> No.3492830

>>3492622
Pekora either forgot about Kiara a bit or was wondering whether Kiara still liked her after her collab so chat had to remind her that Kiara still technically works for UsadaKen before the Pekoland KFP stream.


But since their short interaction during that stream Kiara is on her mind again and she makes sure to include her in all that stuff to the best of her ability.
Pekora also praised Kiara for going along with her trap and trying to lure Moona into it.

>> No.3492854

>delayed by 30 minutes
happening rather often

>> No.3492876

>>3492544
>>3492696
Imagine how powerful a hypothetical hybrid holo would be if we could combine all the strengths of each HoloEN girl.
Though I wouldn't change all that much about Kiara, if she can fix some of her awkwardness in collabs (whether it comes from her being an ESL or otherwise) and be a bit more easy-going like Gura and the rest, it'd be fantastic.

>> No.3492915

>>3492854
Probably locked herself outside again

>> No.3492919

>>3492785
I will never stop posting kiara saying nigga

>> No.3492946

>>3492854
She just woke up and wants pancakes.

>> No.3492954

>>3492854
The delay was up a few hours ago, it was probably because of the Aqua concert.
Be it numberfagging or being considerate it's nice to have an oshi who doesn't want to overlap with bigger events.

>> No.3493306

>>3492622
I would like that, but I would also prefer if Kiara had a solo collab with Moona first. Just so that they can establish some personal rapport first and have their interaction roles be defined by more than just only "oh you like Pekora? Well I like Pekora more, let's fight!" like it would certainly go if they jumped right into a full PekoMoonaKiara collab with limited time (so they have no preparation and would certainly default into these preset cliche roles).
Mostly I'm just worried about the idiot parts of the fanbases who are too stupid to distinguish kayfabe banter and take it too far into actual flamewars. Which could be avoided if you show if you show that for example Kiara and Moona can have friendly interactions before (and ones that don't just revolve around Pekora especially... it's the same kinda shit that irks me about "Takamori" done wrong, it can be a nice bit done in moderation, but some idiots take it too far, bring it into solo streams and want it to define every aspect of their character. Thankfully Kiara herself has gotten better at easing up on it lately, but it's probably too late for shipperschizos who'll never see her as anything more than just "Calli's wife").
This is also my suspicion why a large part of the Kiara hate seems to come from SEAnigs specifically. PekoMoona was the thing that lifted the ID branch out of irrelevancy and gave them more recognition globally. So they're protective of it, like any third worlder that got it's first taste of breadcrumbs. They thought Kiara would "take that away" from them (e.g. Pekora from Moona) and the ID's would be left alone to become irrelevant again. So she became public enemy target number one. The fact that none of this happened (Kiara, or any EN for that matter, never became a regular on the JP(+ID) Minecraft server, didn't take any attention away, and ID is even more tightly integrated there with Gen2) hasn't deterred them because that whole thing has developed its own automomentum by now (i.e. they probably don't even know WHY they are angry at her in the first place, just that they're angry), and here we are....

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>>3493306
The Bechdel-Peko Test: Are there at least two members of Usada Kensen feature discussing something other than Pekora?

>> No.3493398

>>3493306
Yeah, you're right, having a KiaMoona collab first would be a good idea. The pseudo-collab they had building KFP went great so a full collab should be fine. Maybe they can do it when the portal gets established between the EN and JP servers.

>> No.3493468

>>3493306
>Mostly I'm just worried about the idiot parts of the fanbases who are too stupid to distinguish kayfabe banter and take it too far into actual flamewars

Kiara builds the KFP in Pekoland without a plan or advertising it much compared to her Subaru collab just before that.
She makes sure to tell everyone that she won't interact much with Moona and both make sure to tell their fanbases there is no bad blood between them.

30k viewers, all lusting for some drama shit to happen.

Your concern is sadly very valid.
Thankfully Kiara is not quite as much of a numberfag as /vt/ loves to pretend she is and harmony is more important to her so she didn't lean into that shit.

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>>3492946
Kiara just woke up and wanted pancakes.

>> No.3493567

>>3493502
Understandable. Who can say no to pancakes?

>> No.3493599

I use to hate kiara but I saw she said the n word on stream, guess I’m a fan now. Very based.

>> No.3493630

>>3490362
Ame isn’t he least popular?

>> No.3493673

>>3493630
By subcount, I think Kiara and Ina are close pretty far below the other three.

>> No.3493694

>>3493502
high maintenance GFE

>> No.3493742

>
>
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for fucks sake

>> No.3493777

>first thing she does is link her song in chat and ask everyone to stream it
Fucking chicken

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3493782

Kiara is doing her heart challenger reps, are you doing yours?

>> No.3493816

Chicken pronounces it jif

>> No.3493817

>Heart Challenger!
>Where is my gun?
Ok ok, calm down. I'll stream it....

>> No.3493829

SHE'S GOT A GUN

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I can't believe KFP is funded by the NRA

>> No.3493936

>>3493742
Just embrace it anon. She knows it's a meme by this point, like saying "bless you" after a sneeze.

And if you're serious about it, well then just SHC anyway, because the sooner it reaches 1 million (seems to be her goal for the promotion of personal songs), the sooner she gets over it and drops it.

>> No.3493941

>>3493816
No she's speaking of jfif.

>> No.3493968
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>>3493923
Ah, beat me to it. Maybe someone can cut out the background?

>> No.3493995

>>3493923
>>3493968
Does this mean I can post Kiara on >>>/k/

>> No.3494168

>>3493936
SHC must stay and evolve. next stage 2M. Membership stamps. Merch. SHC badge for people who streamed 100/500/1000 times.

>> No.3494188

>Fuck those people with money
Based communist wife

>> No.3494233

>>3494188
When will she redistribute her wealth to her employees?

>> No.3494254

>bleach japan
Don't mind if I do

>> No.3494276

>>3494233
When you stream Heart Challenger

>> No.3494343
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>>3493968

>> No.3494353

>>3494343
bottom right, anonchama

>> No.3494368

Reminder that the best EN collab was the one where the dumb bitch was the quietest.

>> No.3494369

>>3494353
kotori overlaps her sleeve so it's weird either way!

>> No.3494410

>She doesn't understands what makes tissues with cum gross
Either too innocent or a gigantic whore

>> No.3494444

>>3494410
She has a similar bin in her room

>> No.3494574

>>3494410
She understand she just doesn't think getting cum on you is gross imagine the implications

>> No.3494743

>>3494574
how else could she get through the 5k line?

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>> No.3494838

>>3494796
Just needs blood splatter on the face

>> No.3494858
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>>3494369
cleaned it up a bit

>> No.3494958

>>3494858
Awesome! Let's put this to good use.

>> No.3495010

>>3494574
Actually explains a lot

>> No.3495060

Haha Kiara, that was a funny tracking story. Now, if you would kindly take this Cover-issued company phone with you...

>> No.3495125

>>3495060
kek

>> No.3495289 [DELETED] 

>>3489825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZWkx2FmMms

>> No.3495962

cash me outside

>> No.3496077

Kiara, don't dox your previous job...

>> No.3496153
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good taste kiara

>> No.3496173

>>3496153
why'd you have to post the one picture with her feet in it

>> No.3496191

>>3496153
sooo is she actually employed at a soapland or?

>> No.3496205

>>3496153
Why you gotta dox kiara like that

>> No.3496209

such a great stream
tissues, schizo vision, emotional Kiara, phone tracking, JAV knowledge

>> No.3496227
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>>3496173
The question is: why wouldn't he?

>> No.3496248

>Kiara knows JAV actresses
What did she mean by this?

>> No.3496306

>>3496248
and follows them on twitter

>> No.3496347

>>3496248
Gravure idols, but same difference. Also, considering her past, how can you expect her to not know these people?

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rate her

>> No.3496447

>>3496390
Kiara has good taste.

>> No.3496479

This JAV and gravure talk pretty much explains simping for vtubers as well
Antis were right after all.

>> No.3496480

>>3496390
You think kiara ever...

>> No.3496498

>>3496479
Bleach Japan = antis

>> No.3496527

>>3496480
masturbated to her? very possible

>> No.3496530

>>3496479
Entertainment-service industry works like another entertainment-service industry. Wow, what a surprise.

>> No.3496655

She meet and took friendly photos with models before if you all are wondering
Not lewd photos, people can be friends you know

>> No.3496765

>>3496655
well she did take lewd photos

>> No.3496994

solo

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>> No.3497433

>>3492405
Its neither. Gura games the algorithm hard and knows exactly bow to do it. She simply has spend a lot of time with it and knows how memetic spread works, thats her effort.
I guarantee you, and you can believe that or not as you will, she was fine with the scuffed rigging because it generated more buzz than any cute outfit could have.
She just does things differently from other Holos, and it works great for her. The chumbuds mad about lack of songs etc. just project on Gura.

>> No.3497479

>>3491016
Ok boss

>> No.3497627

Kiara...?

>> No.3497631
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>> No.3497771

Man, Kiara really does live rent free in schizos head. I falsefag for fun every now and then to make fun of KFPs but to see people actually be this fucked in the head about a single person, is both amazing and sad. I often wonder what Kiara even did to make so much of these retards seethe this hard. But in a way, I’m glad she does. I like her as is and seeing people lose their minds over her is just hilarious.

>> No.3497812

>>3497771
eh it's nothing new

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>> No.3497877

I'm glad she's having fun with Yakuza 7.

>> No.3497895
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KFPbros how do we compete

>> No.3497975

>>3497812
True. I’ll like Kiara no matter what. She’s not my oshi but I only have nothing but respect for her cause she’s one of the few people who made me smile and gave me happiness when I’m feeling down. True I shitpost and make fun of her fans, but I try to hold back as much as possible when it comes to her. I want her to succeed and watch her achieve her dream of being on stage as she promised before. It would be very nice.

>> No.3497985

>>3491383
when did Nene say nigger?

>> No.3498060

>>3497985
Kiara was talking about Nene's rigger but accidentally said "Nene's nigger". Classic mistake but nobody cared then

>> No.3498125

>>3498060
>ywn be nene's nigger
God damn it

>> No.3498221

>>3497771
It's mainly because meido let a kiara hate circlejerk thread ferment on /jp/ for months.

>> No.3498229

>>3498125
the cutest form of slavery

>> No.3498265

>>3490345
The bubbly happy jpop idol lesbian that supports BLM is the first one to pull a pewdiepie. Amazing

>> No.3498308

>>3498221
Also because it became normal to shitpost against Kiara, even if it was Ironic. The bad thing about that though was that it attracted genuine schizos, and its gotten to a point where Kiara is practically mentioned in every hololive thread on the board, even some non holo related threads.

>> No.3498403
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I like Kiara

>> No.3498439

>>3498403
Me too

>> No.3498865

>>3498403
What do you think her hair smells like

>> No.3499072

>>3498865
cheap chinese knockoff shampoo

>> No.3499098

>>3499072
Damn, that's pretty hot

>> No.3499123

>>3498865
Kiara is a girly girl so I bet she uses some scented shampoo
I would guess a coconut

>> No.3499375

>>3499123
probably something supposedly healthy and exotic like green tea and yuzu

>> No.3499463

>>3492405
I mean she has also mentioned having depression, which definitely doesn't help, either. You're not going to ask for nice things when you feel like you don't deserve them.

>> No.3500148

There was a rabbit but Kiara did not mention Pekora. She has mentioned every EN member for one reason or another during this stream I think.
Japan is leaving Kiara.

>> No.3500243

This degree of numberfagging..

>> No.3500352

>>3500243
The last hurrah of SHC before it hopefully retires forever.

>> No.3500385

>>3500352
It'll only get replaced by something else though.

>> No.3500466

>>3500385
I hope she doesn't.
SHC can be slightly excused because of the shadow ban.
Her Gura collab song is doing fine so it won't be until her next song that a "push" is necessary.

It might be foolish but I hope the KFP won't go full retard "Stream New Song" when that song releases.
Kiara was willing to give up on HC but the KFP kept the SHC meme alive...

>> No.3500652

>>3500466
We'll probably never truly be free because "Anyways stream [thing]" is a meme that is pre-existing on twitter because of rabid kpop fans saying it unironically, and it very much fits with the kind of "people" you see frequent chat

>> No.3500691

>>3497433
Just look at Gura's title and thumbnail quality. Compare side by side with anyone from EN. She's designed her video presentation so people who know nothing about her will click. Big gura face + one content element + title that doesn't overrun. No complicated backgrounds, simplifies the TN even more when she's using fanart since it's less clear than her face, small words only... it's no accident that she draws in millions of new viewers, and likewise a consequence is her stream views don't reflect her video success, but that's due to her success not in spite of it.

Other HoloEN have elements of this style too, but aren't nearly as good at it. Mori and Kiara probably could improve the most.

>> No.3500740

>>3500691
absolutely begging kiara to change the superchat reading thumbnail

>> No.3500793 [DELETED] 

For those of you with a Twitter account, I hope you are reporting that chink who fills the art tag with doxx. It's been 5 days already.

>> No.3500866

>>3500691
Wtf are you talking about, Kiara has exactly the same style of thumbnails as Gura. Big vtuber head+ title of game nothing else.

>> No.3500927

>This much love towards her baby
Somebody make this woman a mother please

>> No.3500953
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Kiara has a really strong motherly impulse
She should have an actual child to use it on instead of a cat

>> No.3501029 [DELETED] 

>>3500793
Is he using the english or jap tag?

>> No.3501062

>>3500466
I wonder, why doesn't Kiara do it like Mori and generate more hype BEFORE a new single drops and not in retrospect?
That would be helpful for the algorithm and look less sad

>> No.3501094 [DELETED] 

>>3500793
Just checked.. So it's that /qa guy...
Reports sent in.
Thank for the reminder

>> No.3501191

>>3501062
She did that for Hinotori, Wah Wah World and Heart Challenger. Hinotori even had a whole announcement stream.

She didn't do it for Huke's birthday song to make it a surprise for him - and she is also not numberfagging about that song. Often at least. She mentioned it once or twice, then dropped it.
And for the Gura song she wanted to keep it a secret for some reason. Maybe she was scared of chumbuds fighting the KFP over precieved leeching or something.

I hope with her next song she will promote is properly again.

>> No.3501195

>>3501062
She did that once with Hinotori and unsurprisingly it got 1 million pretty fast. Heart Challenger had a little bit of hype going into it but the shadowban and video deletion arc tanked its momentum. Her new cover with Gura is doing really well and the main reason the Huke cover isn't so high is because it had a shitty release slot and due to the nature of being "secret" she didn't hype it up.

>> No.3501402

>>3501195
oh shit I forgot about that, I actually subscribed after she released Hinotori.
But the Shadowban affecting Heart Challenger is just such fucking bullshit
SUSAN HATE
actually, what was the actual reason for the shadowban?
Sabotaging her efforts, not HIM from bakinsaday right?

>> No.3501472

>>3501402
Honestly it probably was a combination of the Nene incident and her moving back home. What's bullshit is that there wasn't any quick way to resolve it. Usually if you get an email about suspicious activity there's a thing you can click to confirm if it was you or not. At least that's been my experience with other services.

>> No.3501484

I love Like a Dragon, but this ear rape dubstep is really getting old

>> No.3501506

>>3501402
I don't think we still know for sure. It was Nene loggin in Kiara's account, or Kiara loggin in from an unknown PC or something like that.
Bots saw some suspicious activity and instead of sending a confirmation email, like any normal company would, just shut down everything.

>> No.3501531

>>3501402
Nobody knows. It was also a rather strange shadowban as it only affected the stuff she made the previous two months before it happened.
Heart Challenger was hidden but Hinotori and I think even Wah Wah World were fine and got recommended like always.
But even when you searched for "Heart Challenger" on Youtube you wouldn't find it, you had to go directly to her channel to click it...

>> No.3501706

>>3501531
> you had to go directly to her channel
Wasn't there a time when her channel didn't show up even if you searched for it?

>> No.3501708

Is she losing stamina? she's getting tired at the 5 hours mark, had headaches last week etc.
I don't mind her streams getting shorter though, sometimes it's a pain when they are super long

>> No.3501752

>massaged with a machine that I have
she really doesn't think before she speaks does she

>> No.3501845

>>3501706
Not sure if that was during the shadow ban.

Her channel was completely deleted once but that only lasted for 6 hours and actually helped her because it lead to her first redebut.

>> No.3501967

>>3501062
Her songs are always massively hyped before they drop you fucking retard
People just don't want to watch her that much

>> No.3502278

>>3501752
She knows exactly what she's doing

>> No.3502357
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The meme is done...

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So what's the point of the same group of 4K autist streaming the same song over and over again?
I thought the point was that other people streamed and liked the song

>> No.3502391

>>3501706
yep, her channel didn't show up in search

>> No.3502393

Finally. Now let SHC die.

>> No.3502397

>>3502357
fucking finally...
now do the huke Bday reps to 1 million

>> No.3502451

>>3502357
Finally we can stop streaming that terrible song... Right KFP bros? Please tell me I can stop now.

>> No.3502471

>>3502373
She tried to get it back into recommendation boxes by having the KFP push it.
Didn't work and she was ready to give up but the KFP kept memeing SHC.

It's still not getting recommended as much as Hinotori or Wah Wah World so it will now stay at 1M flat.

>> No.3502483

>>3502373
She's a numberfag

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>>3502451
What part of "never-ending shift" don't you understand?

>> No.3503371

So sensitive to mild criticism

>> No.3503719

>>3502357
STREAM HEART CHALLENGER

>> No.3504647

Chances Kiara actually sounds better than in her usual mixing?

>> No.3504824

>>3504647
Hard to say, I've heard a lot of really shit mixing from Japanese producers so just because it's not the usual guy doesn't guarantee it'll be good. Still, I'm hoping for an improvement.

>> No.3505015

>>3489998
No one needs a pass to say a fucking word, imbecile.

>> No.3505147

>>3494343
>Kiara has a gun narrative was true

>> No.3505474

Cute new outro

>> No.3505519

7 hours. Does anyone else in EN ever do 7 hours? Jesus christ Kiara, you fucking champ.

>> No.3505566

>>3505519
She's got the longest stream hours in all of EN for a reason. Chicken is a stream machine

>> No.3505605

>>3505519
Pretty sure Azki holds the record globally and Kiara holds the EN record.

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>>3505519

>> No.3505825

>>3505757
Should be "Getting lost until I find my way back" desu

>> No.3505883

I hope she plays more rhythm games in the future because it seems like she has a knack for it, if she could play Project Diva or somehow play Rhythm Heaven I think she would be good at it because of things.

>> No.3505923

>>3505519
I think she and Ame are the one I feel put the kost effort into their streams, especially in the case of Superchats. Kiara seems much more difficult since she tries to keep a much more happy tone throughout and it must be exhausting after a while. I’d never be able to do any of that, easing and thanking your paypigs for hours in end. I understand why KFPs are so loyal to her. I would too if she was my oshi.

>> No.3505948

Did more edits during the stream.
Original: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/89660866

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>>3505948
Oops, forgot to link the image.

>> No.3506002

>>3505519
Mori has the EN record with her 1M marathon with 10 hours and 30 minutes or something.
But when it comes to regular streams Kiara is the highest - the final Ryza 1 stream and one of her Minecraft streams are over 9 hours and 30 minutes each.

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Original: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/89654199

>> No.3506044

>>3505948
You're way better at this than I could ever do. If you want a critique, the left ass shadow seems off to me.

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Original: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/89638703

>> No.3506064

She stopped "Stream Aikotoba III" from happening, thank god...

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Original: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/89642029

>> No.3506195

>>3506044
Unfortunately I don't know enough about the tools yet to make it look more natural, fiddling with it makes it look worse. If anyone is autistic enough like myself to care about these variations, I'd welcome improvements.

>> No.3506202

>>3505519
I think it goes Kiara > Ame > Mori > Ina > Gura
Mori holds the record though with her 1m marathon.
An Ina endurance stream is like 4 hours iirc.

>> No.3506264

>>3506202
I think the longest Ina stream was a nier stream recently, which was nearly 9 hours.

>> No.3506382

>>3506195
You definitely got over the hurdles that made me quit.

>> No.3506532

>>3505923
Smells like based in here

>> No.3506607

>>3505999
Nice work!
The upper fabric stretch on her butt could be more natural like the lower one but it looks nice nonetheless

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One of her most entertaining streams yet!

also timestamps
phone tracking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1jqkodKflA&t=3151s

JAV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1jqkodKflA&t=6163s
until 6298s
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1jqkodKflA&t=11342s

>> No.3507468

>>3506831
>Those second two.
>All the knowledge.
As much as I love her over-divulging, this is the one case where I want to tell her to please stop feeding the rrats.

>> No.3507743

>>3507468
Its not a rrat though.
You may not like it but that doesnt make it false

>> No.3507981

>>3507468
She had to do it because her antis have uploading the clip out of context on youtube and twitter.

>> No.3508222

>>3505605
> EN record.
Mori beat her record and then chikin beat that record because the title must be hers.

>> No.3508387

>>3507468
Just ignore the doxfags and the stuff they try to peddle.
As the horny Phoenix-vtuber living in japan, this stuff fits her perfectly and it's great fun for her to lust over prominent girls.
The normies all know one or two 3Dpg pornstars by name, like if western devs put in a playboy and the cover has someone famous.
So anything real or not just gets buried in phoenix lore regardless what happend before or is simply a rrat.

>> No.3508649

>>3508222
Mori still has the record for longest individual EN stream. But for most hours streamed, the "competition" was only ever between Kiara and Ame with Kiara now well in the lead.

>> No.3508879

>>3508649
Really? I think I remember her streaming and asking "how long calli streamed? 9.5? We'll go longer"

>> No.3509063

>>3508222
Kiara had the record, then Ame beat her, then Kiara got it back on accident (chat told her the game is only two more hours but it was like five more hours, Jenma had to bring her food because chat kept her playing forever) and then Mori got the record with her 1M stream.
Mori is still holding the record.

Please get your hatred right, anon. Kiara wants to dominate Ame, Ina and Gura but be dominated by Mori.

>> No.3509140

>>3508879
She got the record back from Ame without actually trying for it.
Then when Mori beat her she joked about doing the same thing for her but didn't actually intend to do it.

Mori's record is at 10.5 hours. 9.5 was the Ame/Kiara "battle".

>> No.3509440

>>3509140
I see.
>>3509063
>get your hatred right
What?

>> No.3509661

>>3489998
I struggle to see how this will turn out to have major consequences for her

>> No.3511137

>>3509661
Kiara has expressed concern over getting cancelled before.
Nothing will come out of this but I don't think her fear over getting cancelled will disappear just like that.

>> No.3512358

>>3511137
Ironically people trying to cancel Gura is what helped her numbers in the beginning. Let's hope that Kiara is not dumb enough to intentionally cause drama for that purpose.

>> No.3512965

>>3506831
This happened over half a day ago and there's still no art of Kiara on That Pool. For shame.

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Yay Gura found Kiara's gift in Minecraft!

>> No.3519856

So what are some regrets you have about KFP?
I remember clearly that Kiara had doubts about her chicken voice a few times months ago. I think KFP could've pressed her at that time into using a more normal voice but nothing came out of it.
The reason why she used the chicken voice in the first place is because she wanted to be a cute character and thought that includes a "cute" (AKA chicken) voice, but that failed misserably and ended up filtering people.
Now that she has dropped the seiso and acts like a degenerate there's no reason to keep up the "cute" voice, but it has become a part of her character for soon to be a year by now. A shame.
Sauce: https://youtu.be/q7WWwEnMHFs?t=8412
She also talked about this in other stream, but I think this is the only time she talked about her voice.

>> No.3519933

>>3519856
The doubts she had about her voice were in some Fire emblem and/or Sakuna streams from way before that Q&A btw.

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>> No.3520337

>>3519950
wait did she actually get the bonk?

>> No.3520481

So glad to see Gura enjoy the progress Kiara made, because she gave those presents out of love.

>> No.3520537

>>3519856
I have no regrets, Kiara is lovely and learns from her mistakes.

>> No.3520776

>>3519856
I like it her voice as it is. Same thing with Towa. People always complain about them not using their real voices but to me it keeps the illusion of the character. People can keep getting filtered by it for all I care.

>> No.3520804

>>3519856
The sad part is you can be cute and hot at the same time. There's a difference between Gura little sister-esque cute and GFE cute.

>> No.3521319

>>3520776
Is there any illusion of character from Kiara at all? she's an oversharer and over time she has pretty much revealed the contents of her old blogs and tweets just from talking to KFP
She tried to keep an illussion of character at the beginning, for example trying to keep her native country a secret, but she even revealed in what town she used to live in a members streams.

>> No.3521621

>>3521319
Weird as it sounds, in a way there still is one to me. But what I mean by that isn't that she's playing a character. It's like, if she spoke with her normal voice, it'd be like if she was naked to me. Whether someone's body is ugly or beautiful it's still to see them naked in some contexts.

>> No.3521806

>>3521621
That 's such a random thing to nitpick I wonder how many people share it with you

>>3520804
She cathegorizes both cute lolis and lewd things as "cute" so her sense of whats cute is all over the place.

>> No.3521831

>>3521319
Won't lie, her candidness is kinda what makes me want to watch her. It makes her 'realer' than any of the other EN girls and because she can be genuine consistently, her streams tend to be the most entertaining, because the thing most of us come to streamers for is the streamer themselves, not the games.

>> No.3522080

>>3490308
Well only if you count hololive streams. Watson being the most gamer, of course, already said it on stream 4 years ago.

>> No.3522110

>>3521806
You think so? Most people would feel weird if she just dropped the voice now though, wouldn't they?

>> No.3522415

>>3522110
That's why I said it's a shame because she had doubts about her voice earlier on but now even if she wanted to change it, I'm sure "it's too late now" will pop in her mind.
Same thing happened with her shitty streaming schedules that she thinks she would get better views if she stick to a more consistent streaming schedule but now thinks "it's too late to change it" and rationalizes it by saying she wanted people from other timezones to be able to watch her live at least once.

>> No.3523237

>>3522415
If she genuinely didn't want to do it anymore, I would be 100% with her. Same thing if she wanted to play both sides by making it into a gig sorta like Luna's Anemori.

In the meantime, it doesn't really bother me, and the comments about her using her real voice feel to me more like unsolicited advice that got to her, like so many other things get to her all the time. There's a bunch of other holos that put on voices to varying degrees, so I don't feel it's that big a deal. I mean, just look at Subaru. It hasn't ended anybody's career.

>> No.3523372

>>3496205
read file name

>> No.3523480

>>3496205
That worthless bitch wishes she was Japanese, not just an ugly weeb with a grandma face hiding behind bangs.

>> No.3523586

>>3500953
I want to believe but I think it's an act

>> No.3524310

>>3523480
Holy fucking seethe...
You ok there Anon?

>> No.3524426

>>3523586
It's not, anon.
>>3523237
The thing about her chicken voice is that is brought up as one of the things that limited or that is limiting her growth here and in youtube. It isn't even about haters, just random people saying the cicken voice is annoying to hear.
And I understand where they are coming from because there are times I can't stand her voice either. It feels like an assault on my ears and it's the most noticeable character voice out of her group (Gura plays the loli character so it fits)

>> No.3524538

>>3524310
looks like a mad roastie

>> No.3524605

>>3524538
There's part of me that wants to believe that it's someone fucking around and that there isn't anyone who would be that angry and jealous of someone else.

>> No.3525064

>>3524605
some people are just fucking around, but there are some posts with genuine hate and jealousy, if you pay attention to the insults used and writing style. that post is one of the more obvious ones, I think

>> No.3525742

>>3524426
>brought up as one of the things that limited or that is limiting her growth here and in youtube
That view is skewed like everything related to Kiara here, by comparing her to holoEN and nothing else. That's precisely the kind of uninformed thinking that hurt Kiara so much initially. Changing her voice won't get her a million more subscribers overnight, and even if it did, it would be no measure of personal fulfillment.

I really can't take anything /hlgg/ says in regards to Kiara in earnest because I feel the vast majority watches only EN, and only a minority of those watch Kiara or even Mori. I don't feel that kind of people have really branched out to make that type of judgement something I want to take into account.

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>>3525742
>comparing her to holoEN and nothing else.
She compares herself to her peers a lot as well. It's inevitable because they debuted together and appeal to a different audience than the JPs do.
>Changing her voice won't get her a million more subscribers overnight,
Now you are blowing this out of proportion for no reason. She still has issues like a shitty stream schedule or debuff games. The point is that it's a shame this wasn't addressed earlier.

>it would be no measure of personal fulfillment.
Personal fulfillment is some really random thing to bring, but if you want to bring it up I'm sure she'd love if people subbed to her because of her voice, like how she feels grateful KFP accepts her personality despite all her flaws.

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I love this chickm!

>> No.3527559

>>3526699
>She compares herself to her peers a lot as well.
Yes, but it's been half a year already. At this point, she should be capable of knowing what each of them is like. Another problem is that her (and others) tend to only see the positive in people who are more successful than her rather than everything.

>It's inevitable because they debuted together and appeal to a different audience than the JPs do.
Yes and no. There's no monolithic audience EN is tapping into. If simply speaking English made you successful, ID would have blown up a long time ago, instead of staying in the mid to low range in general. The truth is that holoEN developed its own audience. The even more complex fact is that the audience of every holoEN member is different. But that's precisely what I meant when I say I can't take the feedback in earnest. Because the views on what Kiara or anyone else should be doing was created from that point onward.

To give you an anecdotal example, I can't stand Miko's voice, it drives me irrationally mad. I had that instinctual reaction to it the first time I saw mikoboat. Am I objectively correct in feeling that way? I know Miko was even bullied for her voice as a teen. Yet I also know if I made bad comments about it, I would have people jump on my throat for it, and there's thousands of people who like Miko that way. On the other hand, criticizing Kiara's voice is accepted, if not expected. I'm not there's some unfair double standard here, what I'm saying is that these expectation change the way people take these things.

>> No.3528492

That one n-word video on youtube got age-restricted

>> No.3529630

>>3505519
Ina did like two 7 hour streams and one 8 and a half hour stream last week, but overall Kiara streams a lot more. Ina streams for 1-3 hours and Kiara like 2-5 or 6 on average

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>no stream today
i'm ngmi, guys

>> No.3530130

>>3491803
To add to this, very early on, like a month in, Kiara requested some very minor changes to her model and got them.
So yea, Kiara is just more assertive in how she manages herself essentially, Jenma also said she's a joy to work with so she's probably fairly professional.

>> No.3530146

>>3530034
didnt she plan the rebroadcast for today?

>> No.3530168

>>3530146
She wanted to go shopping for stuff for her new place with a friend today, I think she said something about delaying it by a few hours?

>> No.3530193

>>3530146
why would I watch the same stream again

>> No.3530202

>>3530146
she thought about delaying it or moving it to the weekend and tweet about it as soon as she decided what to do.

>> No.3530213

>>3530130
She knows that she has to put her foot down if she wants to get stuff done.
Her ability to speak Japanese and experience in idol business allow her to stay professional and polite doing so.
I love my chicken

>> No.3530405

>>3519856
I want her to stop using the chicken voice because it seems like its hurting her.

>> No.3531215

>>3493995
yes. Kiara and Aruran are official >>>/k/-tubers

>> No.3531621

>>3530130
Kiara probably responds instantly to messages. Also she mentioned it before that behind the scenes she acts a lot more formal/professional. This came up when she was prepping for Miko Holotalk and people were saying she was rude to her collab partners because of how she talked to them.
Not sure about Ame but Gura is known to not reply to messages for days.

>> No.3531680

>>3531621
Source or it's a rrat?

>> No.3533643

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1391717663316000774
Goodbye SHC

>> No.3534701

>>3520337
Nah, nothing came of it, nothing will come of it.
Clips keep popping up on Youtube but they get taken down in a few hours.
Jenma is in fucking overdrive and you can be sure the KFP is reporting everything they come across since they are that dedicated.

It won't spread for fake drama and no one cares enought to make it real drama.

>> No.3534759

>>3521319
Honestly, yeah there is.
She overshares but weaves it into her character. Her cats now have new names and are green and orange and her ex-roommate (as in the actual person she used to live with) is an angel playing the guitar.

>> No.3534843

>>3530034
There might be a SC reading later-on if she feels like it.
She only made it past the Outfit ones, there are still plenty to go.

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>> No.3534978

>>3534899
>furniture
I hope she organised some people to carry things for her or else she will get headaches from overworking her noodle arms again.
Sorry, I'm worried for the chicken.

>> No.3534987

>>3534899
Thank fuck

>> No.3535129

>>3534899
>>3534987
Really glad Kiara could take a day off this week. She shouldn't worry about taking breaks considering she puts in the most effort out of her colleagues for us.

>> No.3535390

>>3535129
"Most effort" might be a bit contentious to say.
She puts in the most streaming hours but Mori works super hard off-screen to keep on pumping out music while Ame constantly comes up with new gimmicks to make her Supa Sundays enjoyable.

Kiara puts in a ton of work and deserves some rest (even if she isn't actually resting today) but the others work hard as well in their own way.

>> No.3535451

>>3527559
>There's no monolithic audience EN is tapping into.
EN definitely was for sure not made to appeal to Japanese people.
Just that fact alone means that if she had to compare herself to anyone, it makes sense its her EN peers. They all debuted around the
same time, had the same pool of people available to watch them during debut and in Kiara's case she had plenty of exposure with her songs, collabs, and viral material (trending when her channel was deleted for example) yet she's still trailing behind her friends not just on subs but also on views in her music videos, karaoke clips. Even in trivial things such as youtube and twitter pools she nearly always ends up last.
Even if each girl has a different fanbase that still doesn't answers why and what can she do to appeal to more people.
In my case I think the answer to that why is her voice + the other stuff I mentioned before.

>> No.3535530

>>3535451
Gura...
Ina Ina Ina...
And Kiara is works off screen in her holotalk and other gimmicks, and also in her music as well. Coordinating collabs also gives her extra hardworking points.
I'm not that anon but I agree that she's the one who puts more effort than the rest as well.

>> No.3535638

>>3535530
Meant to reply to >>3535390

>> No.3536451

>>3535451
Kiara's biggest problem is that she doesn't have an appeal that can easily be spoonfed to someone.

Mori: massive gap with her autistic personality and her raps
Ina: godlike art skills
Gura: memelord both obviously and subtle
Ame: gremlin voice and gimmicks

What makes Kiara special is how comfortable she can make people feel - despite her chicken voice.
The KFP fucking loves every time she goes on a tangent because it's so enjoyable to listen to her just talk about shit.
And all her collab partners keep praising her after a stream. Pekora even bragged to her fucking real mother about knowing Kiara, in front of 100k viewers.
Meanwhile Aki just couldn't stop talking about Kiara after HoloTalk - she trippled her usual SC reading time just to go on and on how amazing it was.

And in full HoloEN collabs Kiara is always willing to make herself the butt of a joke like with that key story in the latest one.
Everyone made a funny comment about it or at least laughed wholeheartedly and then they were all a lot more relaxed.

Despite of how over-the-top and forthcoming her character is Kiara's strenghts are actually not that easy to see.
Which is why she is seen as the "bottom left chicken" for people who don't watch her. And why the people that do watch her are so insanely loyal.

>> No.3536772

>>3535530
It's pretty obvious that being a vTuber is mostly a cute little hobby for Ina. She has her art gig and that will always be her main focus and main source of income.
Which isn't bad, it gives her a really different feel from the many people who do it as a career. This uniqueness is why the Takodachis are the second most loyal fans after the KFP.
But it explains why she doesn't put in a ton of work, just doing whatever she feels like. And that's alright.

Gura got where she is without putting in all that much work (as Gura at least).
She already has the most rabid following and is unable to control her fans - I can see her being afraid of putting in too much work and making things even worse.
She doesn't even want to release a song despite everyone begging her to do it and how much she enjoys singing. You gotta pity her for being burdened with the chumbubs...

So yeah, these two have reasons for not being up there with the other three in terms of effort they put into their vTuber careers.

>> No.3537165

>>3536772
Everything you described about Ina is what Kiara wanted to be initially interestingly enough.
She had another job that was going to be her main thing while vtubing was just a side job and just wanted to meet cover's minimum requirements to be in the company.
Since she always wanted to be seen as an artist, maybe she would've focused more on her songs since she had some unfinished projects hanging around at the time too, who knows. I just thought that's interesting and how much it would've changed KFP

>> No.3537268

>>3534978
>noodle arms
Kiara lifts...

>> No.3537307

>>3534899
>no Gura
>no Kiara
I am free from hologirls today. I don't know if I like it.

>> No.3537424

>>3537268
Could have fooled me the way she talks about being unable to carry her own groceries.

She said that she used to be fit but being a shut-in for the last year has robbed her of all stamina and strength.
You sure she still lifts?

>> No.3537534

>>3535451
I think the answer is much simpler than that:
Normalfags mainly decide on who to watch based on clips. Because Kiara doesn't produce the contents clipniggers want (unpopular games, her funny moments are more than just the current popular meme, long VoDs mean it's a hassle to go thorugh each of them to hunt for clips), they don't bother with clipping her.
The answer is either selling out and forcing flavor of the month content like the others, or keeping up what she's doing and hoping she can make a clip that can go viral. Remember, Pekora was the runt of her gen for a long while.

>> No.3537696

>>3537268
she lifts nutella pancakes for breakfast, lunch and dinner

>> No.3537835

>>3537268
Just because she's hot doesn't mean she's fit.

>> No.3538016

>>3537534
No wonder she looks up to Pekora so much.
They really are very similar, playing the games they enjoy the most and getting a really loyal fanbase for it.

But was Pekora really the runt of her gen? I thought that was always Flare.

>> No.3538157

>>3537268
She had to get an uber from the shops as she couldn't carry the bags home
Unless she was bulk buying bags of concrete she has noodle arms

>> No.3538459

>>3537268
...Chonkers when it comes over.
How heavy can an average cat get?

>> No.3538493

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HevGWPhJiic
Stream reservation for ITT on Mori's channel

>> No.3538515

>>3538459
fat cats are around 5kg. her's are more fur than fat tho

>> No.3538602

>>3538016
IIRC NoeFure was helping her in the beginning, while Pekora struggled tor each 1k. Granted, this was before the western boom in 2019.

>> No.3538686

>>3538602
Oh ok.
I only know of Flare crying when Korone gave her a wallet for reaching 50k so it seemed to me like she was always trailing behind.

>> No.3538810

Did she say she's moving the members rebroadcast to the weekend?

>> No.3538891

>>3538810
She was throwing out some ideas like pushing it back and hour (which we are already past) and moving it to the weekend.
Seems she has decided to do the latter.

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>>3539081

>> No.3539448

>>3538602
Kinda like Pekora was the Korone of her gen where her start was abysmal and clawed their way to the top.
Kiara always seemed to me to be more important on the behind the scenes kind of thing honestly.
Watame seems to really like Kiara even though we only know their on-screen interactions.

>> No.3539600

>>3539448
>Kiara always seemed to me to be more important on the behind the scenes kind of thing honestly.

Mori is the best at holding her character but one time she was so sad on stream it got through her character and the Deadbeats noticed how upset she was.
Kiara called her and made things better.

Recently Kiara is talking about Gura in very vague terms while the Chumbuds are having one episode after another.
Seems like she is consoling her at least a bit (although Ame probably helps as well with how happy Gura is about their upcoming collab).

She also threw out the idea of having regular call-ins with all the girls and they just had one after the last collab.

She is definitely insanely important behind the scenes.

>> No.3540133

>>3538493
wasn't that part supposed to be also on Kiaras channel because of the extra clubhouse collab?
which only exists because mori is to "busy" to check if a game runs well beforehand

>> No.3540216

>>3540133
Seems someone did some work checking out a game for once - and they noticed that they are at about 50% of the game instead of at 66% like chat claimed.
There will most likely be two more streams instead of just one so each channel gets one.

>> No.3540293

>>3539600
Yeah I noticed her speaking vaguely about Gura which made me think something was up. Also she said she was looking at chat during the collab so she has to have seen the rigger hate comments.
Kiara has said before that she always checks up on the girls so something must’ve happened.

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>>3539108
I like flat loly, but Kiara makes my dick diamonds for some reason.

>> No.3540416

>>3540216
I see, looks like I judged too harshly

>> No.3540835

>>3539448
>Watame seems to really like Kiara
What makes you say that?
Not saying you are talking shit, I just don´t know.

>> No.3541019

>>3540835
She talked about her a lot on the stream after the phlogs collab iirc.
Also she’s organizing a collab with Iofi/Kiara/Mori
And unfortunately she got into the pacifier thing recently because of Kiaras new costume.

>> No.3541445

New thread in a few minutes

>> No.3541568

>>3506831
Gravure isnt JAV

>> No.3541787

New thread up:
>>3541776
>>3541776
>>3541776

>> No.3544857

>>3531621
Yea I imagine that's, she's used to a professional setting.

>> No.3544871

How tf is this thread not dead yet. Is the board that slow today?

>> No.3544902

>>3536451
Kiara also has incredible comic timing to have the absolute dumbest possible shit to happen to her thats memed on or a good laugh.

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