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I thought vtubers were about to die in China after the new Bilibili rules. What happened, holofriends?

>> No.3618674

Hololive is already HoloEN was failed project nijisanji en is the new vtuber

>> No.3619166

Laws arent applied in China

>> No.3619630

>>3618674
Ching Chong get off now

>> No.3619657

>>3619166
Such scary dictatorship

>> No.3619728

>>3619657
It's the worst of both worlds. There's nothing protecting people's rights, there's corruption galore and therefore if you do something the government doesn't want you to do and you don't have enough money, you are royally screwed. To the point that you may end up disappearing.

>> No.3620117

They already had no privacy in China so nothing changed with the new rules.

>> No.3620159

>>3618674
holy shit an actual chink posting

>> No.3620285

>>3618674
>HoloEN was failed project
Says the retard who was cheering for Gura's karaoke moments before she dropped the C-word.

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>Hololive is already HoloEN was failed project nijisanji en is the new vtuber

>> No.3621075

>>3619728
America isn't that bad anon you're surely exaggerating.

>> No.3621624

>>3620923
Your fired

>> No.3621808

I know this is just bait, but whatever happened to Kagura Mea anyways? Last I heard she was under fire for some shit with regards to her concert last year and did a functional naked dogeza for bili mistakes.

>> No.3622199

>>3618674
Get out of here, Zhang.

>> No.3622380

>>3619657
That's how laws work in China dumbass. By making it so that everyone violates the laws a little, nobody is ever "innocent". It's a sword of damocles that hangs over everything you do and the government does not need anything more to arrest you and deprive you of your rights anytime.

>> No.3622467

Why would anyone ever willingly live in China?

>> No.3622630

>>3621808
She streams

>> No.3622649

>>3618674
>cingcongbingbong
k

>> No.3622875

>>3622467
Only idiots that don't understand what there getting into, like that russian guy who's being held against his will on a game show that can only leave once he's voted off, but because is suffering is so relatable to the average chunk they refuse to do so cause they want to watch him.
Every one else is born there and doesn't have a choice, especially the rich since you can only have a certain amount of personal access to your money to keep you from taking everything and leaving.

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>>3618674

>> No.3631289

>>3618036
>What happened, holofriends?
Mea needs money

>> No.3631421

>>3618036
Only vtubers China doesn't like, that's always the case with them
Have vague and arbitrary policies so you have the justification to remove anyone you don't like if you interpret the rules to suit your agenda

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>>3618674

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>>3618674

>> No.3638587

>>3618674
zhang can't you at least transcend insect status first before speaking?

>> No.3638589

>>3618674
Deng, don't you have some diseased bats to sell?

>> No.3638668

>>3618674
Holy fuck I thought Zhangposting was just a meme

>> No.3638704

>>3618674
Zhangchama... Your english reps...

>> No.3638730

>>3638668
Then you’re pretty new. They used to come in all the time during and in the wake of the Great Pinkout.

>> No.3638745

>>3619657
That's why they need absurd amounts of surveillance equipment and logistics of control, otherwise the country will break like a fucking egg, they are more scared of their average chink village which does not comply than they are scared of americans with actual guns.

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>>3621624
>Your

>> No.3638788

>>3621075
Another 50 cent fucker... Can't you people be even subtle like what the actual fuck???

>> No.3638813

>>3618674
holy shit
a real zhang

>> No.3638876

>>3618674
En stand for English, you do know that right? Chink, you ok with sucking English dick? I thought you hate the West?

>> No.3639506

>>3638788
You shouldn't make vague, generalized statements if you don't want them to turn back on you instead then.

>> No.3639744

i like how the chinks constantly extending the chink arc is slowly pushing everyone towards accepting /pol/ discourse as long as it's chink related

>> No.3639760

>>3618674
Can you just mass produce clip of Nijisanji just like you did with Hololive instead of shitposting in this site like a retard?

>> No.3639842
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3639842

No we won't close our re-education camps.
No we won't care about "human rights".
No we won't stop arresting dissidents and journalists aka foreign agitators and western agents.
No we won't renounce our claims in the South China sea.
No we won't "open" our economy for pillaging by bloodthirsty venture capitalists.
No we won't stop with industrial "espionage" and clandestine cyber operations.
No we won't bow down to Western threats and political intimidation.

Yes we will completely incorporate Hong Kong into our political system.
Yes we will take over Taiwan.
Yes we will push out European colonialists from Africa.
Yes we will become the largest economy despite all trade wars and sabotage against us.
Yes we will reject Western degenerate "values".
Yes we will become the dominant superpower

>> No.3639890

>>3639842
>we
>we
>we
How old are you Winnie the Pooh
China will collapse after you die, you have made sure of it by not naming a successor

>> No.3640162

>>3622467
>Why would anyone ever willingly live in China?
Because it's not actually as bad as foreigners make it out to be. There is a lot of antichina propaganda out there that is spread around promoting misinformation to make China look bad.

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like the retard faggot losers here could ever be right about china or bilibili. just take whatever the haters say and then picture the opposite cause that's reality. every couple months schizo say chinese vtubers are finished and it just keeps growing.

you get banned for "trolling" when you tell the schizo retards the truth too cause the faggot moderation is butthurt about always being wrong. they're like qtards always believing in waiting just two weeks.

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>>3640162
sounds like what a chink with proper english would say.
unless....anon, you're falling for their lies?

>> No.3640591

>>3640511
>>3640162
Spoke to a Chinese girl on a Japanese learning discord once. Everything was fine until I asked about her major, it was journalism, I said that it sounds scary to be a journalist in china as the government might fuck you up if you say the wrong opinion. She just fucking bugged out and starting yelling at me, telling me that I'm brainwashed by the American propaganda and that the Chinese government is good and fair. Mainland Chinese are fucking mental.

>> No.3640657

>>3640591
you have perfected the "i learned about the world from reading the front of reddit" to to a t. have an upvote from me, sir. it's a shame about your low iq though. learning japanese is impossible for low intelligence like you

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>>3618036
painfully obvious

>> No.3640700

>>3640591
lol wtf does that have to do with propaganda? I can't even name a country that won't hurt a journalist in any way possible. what, she thinks she's in Eden or something?
Guess I'm naïve to think people will learn form experience and not be dumb, huh?

>> No.3640750

>>3638788
Not my fault when anglo culture is about hypocrisy and projection so everything you say about others can be turned back on you

>> No.3641218

>>3618674
Changchama...

>> No.3641251

>>3618674
are people actually taking this bait seriously

>> No.3641296

Who's the best bilibili vtuber anyway? English only btw.

>> No.3641536
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>>3641296
https://live.bilibili.com/21919321
she's the most popular. she speaks japanese and to a small degree chinese too. she speaks all three languages in the same sentence sometimes. she also says stuff like "gomensorry" style stuff it's pretty cute.

https://live.bilibili.com/54897
she's honorary english cause all her music is english, she twerks, and says stuff she heard from english speakers erp sessions in vrchat game

>> No.3641584

>>3641536
>she's honorary english cause all her music is english
cringe
>she twerks
double cringe
>says stuff she heard from english speakers erp sessions in vrchat game
based

>> No.3641829

>>3641536
jp vtuber pandering to chinks?
>>3641584
anon you seem to be giving mixed signals of judgement. what's the real verdict?

>> No.3641900

NUMBERS

https://vup.darkflame.ga/ranking/month/2021/4?groupby=individual&sortby=income

元 is donations in yuan, 1 yuan is about 17 yen

>> No.3641919

>>3639890
reddit moment

>> No.3641952

>>3641536
Bruh that's nyanners. Chink nyanners.

>> No.3641960

>>3641829
she's an english vtuber who knows japanese and is now learning chinese. i mean actual learning too not the duolingo stream kind shit. she's been progressing fast too.

>> No.3642058 [DELETED] 

Why are Chinese people so filled with rage? It’s understandable that they don’t like Japan, but the west? If anything, they should be grateful to us.

>> No.3642098

>>3642058
the national sovereignty equivalent of manlet overcompensation

>> No.3642631

>>3619728
>and you don't have enough money, you are royally screwed.
Being rich doesn't stop the super rich "disappearing" for a few weeks from the government abducting them to correct them.

>> No.3642713 [DELETED] 

Why is it that chinks always deflect extremely hard and are insanely obsessed with reddit even more so than a regular 4chins user?

>> No.3642894

>>3618036
What even are you trying to say here?
If you mean by JP Vtubers already giving up in Chinese market, then yeah. They already are.
The Chinese only giving their RMB money to another Chinese Vtuber nowadays. Unless you are already big before the shitstorm happened.

>> No.3643055

>>3642631
That's true. It's so bad, not even money can save you if you dare to step too far from the party.

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>>3618036
Every time I go on Bilibili, there seems to be a shit ton of drama brewing in the Chinese vtuber community.

Just recently, Hanser seems to have gotten cancelled, and Nijisanji's Chinese shark ran into some sort of controversy.

>> No.3643312

Why did Artia do a ugly as fuck face reveal?

>> No.3643374

>>3640162
It's funny because I had a Chinese student at my university who broke down in tears at the prospect of not finding a job having to return

>> No.3643770

>>3642713
because they got btfo by reddit when they tried to raid it, and their attempt to make their own subreddit to try and fool fans also failed and got taken over by TW fans

>> No.3643944

>>3618036
Your parents also thought you're gonna leave the basement soon
but here we are

>> No.3643954

>>3643770
yeah, reddit totally btfo china. they freed hong kong and defeated xi. reddit4ever bro. can't beat karma and upvotes, amirite?

>> No.3644017

>>3643954
No, they got btfo by reddit, reddit didn't btfo them

>> No.3644166

>>3643104
Why? What happened to them?

>> No.3644211

>>3643104
everytime someone talks about the chinese community i become more sure cutting them off was the smartest thing cover ever did.

>> No.3644264

>>3639760
you know, some of them said that, and actually tried, like a form of revenge, but you can't grow love from nothingness

>> No.3644361

>>3622467
even in my country every year there are more chinese immigrants... and i'm from third world country

>> No.3644397

>>3644166
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbd6QS-UCYw
this song hanser sung got pulled off bilibili. it makes fun of fans i guess and they disliked it so they left a bunch of negative comments. there's some other drama involving some backstabbing and throwing under the bus but i don't really get it my chinese isn't good enough.

>>3644211
every time you retards cope saying and nobody gives a fuck retard. you wouldn't know a good decision if it slapped your dumbass. also cover didn't cut anything they got ejected by bilibili moron.

>> No.3644406

>>3643770
Redditors may be whiteknight but not fool

We knew your chink Artia discord reddit 's raid plan and " Actor among us" plan.

We are not stranger to wars. BTFO chink
Reddit not welcome you.

T. White knight Redditor who lurked in NGA

>> No.3644490

>>3644211
Chinese and global community cannot coexist period.
2019 = The high point where Dota global community find out how shit chinese community is
2020 = Large part of global Vtuber community find out how shit chinese community is
2021 = Mihoyo (one of the most successful mobile game dev from chinkland) prove how shit chinese community is when they throw tantrum and start stabbing people when global server get its own event

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>>3644397
>slapped your dumbass

>> No.3644566

>>3644406
>>3644490
>t. schizo who has been saying chinese vtubing is finished since last year
keep failing loser. your seething and reddit upvotes can't do anything to china or chinese vtubers.

i bet you shit your diaper seething when ig beat eg at the major.

>> No.3644664

>>3644566
Who fucking care Chinese Vtuber ?

I talked about Artia Chink raided Reddit a long time ago but end in failure.

Do not worry SEAnigger and EN hate Bilibili from Coco incident.

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>>3644566
>can't do anything to china or chinese vtubers
bugs, that only exist in your bubble platform, it has nothing to do with the world, you and them will remain small, contained and ignored

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>>3644664
>>3644702
>go into thread about chinese vtuber
>seethe and let them live rent free in your head
>"NOBODY CARES!! WHO CARES?!?! NOT ME!!!"
chinese vtubers are gonna explode in popularity in the future. you bitches can't do anything to stop it either.

>> No.3644827

>>3644796
bait
not when they're on a platform worse than youtube which is bad enough already

>> No.3644831

https://pastebin.com/i6Q868R6
A pastebin because this shitty fucking website wasn't letting me post the evidence.
Here a document on hololiveCNs harassment,
and an Archived video on Artia's thoughts on extreme chinese nationalism.
Everything I said up until now are not rrats. They are the undeniable truth. CN and Chinese antis were there own downfall.

>> No.3644838

>>3644664
Imagine not hating chinks by default

>> No.3644860

>>3644397
ogey zhang.

>> No.3644888

>>3644490
>2020 = Large part of global Vtuber community find out how shit chinese community is
2020 = Large part of the global community find out how shit chinese community is
Lots of people got coronapilled

>> No.3644945

>>3618036
Glad to hear that vtubers in China are doing well, but what does that have to do with vtubers outside of China? The two are completely unrelated markets, it would only make sense to compare if one day the Chinese decided to use YouTube as their streaming platform.

>> No.3644946

>>3644838
I like Chinese pussy. Unironically the best in the world.

>> No.3644959

>>3618674
>Hololive is already HoloEN was failed project nijisanji en is the new vtuber
We need a new Hitler to attack the Zhangs

>> No.3644968

Chink genocide when?

>> No.3645003

>>3644664
Majority of SEAniggers already hate the Zhangs way before the Coco incidents.

>> No.3645005

>>3618674
Ha ha NijiEN will be lucky to hit 100k subs and 3k average views.

>> No.3645009

>3644796
your bait is so lazy, you don't deserve a (You)

>> No.3645011

I'm not surprised if this thread is unironically "chink raids, the thread"

>> No.3645051

>>3645011
It's Holohaters thread and 90% of them are Zhangs.

>> No.3645054

>>3645011
I cannot wait for the day when the Chinese government completely disconnects their intranet from the internet

>> No.3645071

>>3644827
>did you disagree with my basic bitch reddit idea that's been proven wrong for years straight now? TROLLLTROLL
i guess you guys are just born retarded.

chinese vtuber growth has only been upward while you schizo have been seething and shitting yourself predicting its collapse for over a year now.

it's been like 15-18 months now you schizo have been coping about how chinese vtubers are finished.

>> No.3645075

>>3645054
I doubt that's going to happen.

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3645084

>>3618674
山東大學三陪一

>> No.3645111

>>3645075
It will have to happen. Their reality is becoming more and more disconnected from the actual world. So instead of selectively censoring shit like they're doing right now, I can see them pulling the plug instead

>> No.3645113

>>3645071
Okay, show numbers

>> No.3645161

>>3645111
Eh, it's not like western media are doing much better. Everyone is retarded these days.

>> No.3645172

>>3645011
kids gotta have something to occupy their time with now that Youtube implemented their security measures

>> No.3645238

>>3645172
It's like two retards. Just ignore them.

>> No.3645323

>>3645113
chinks are always gonna win numbers, they have a billion monkeys

>> No.3645412

>>3645071
seethe more, bug
your entire country is one giant reddit hugbox

>> No.3645445

>>3645323
Does nuking the chinks even going to put a dent in their population?

>> No.3645448

>>3644838
they're fine if they're good at drawing

>> No.3645488

>>3644946
chinese man wouldn't know, their girls fuck foreigners exclusively.

>> No.3645570

>>3645111
it doesn't matter.
when reality contradicts party politics they ignore reality and dive harder into the propaganda.
a lot of Chinese students do that when they go to foreign countries, they use state sponsored media even more because their brains can't handle the dissonance when the propaganda conflicts with reality.

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>>3645113
here's march numbers from superchats alone. they got additional money from memberships which was like 30-80k usd in value for that month.

enjoy coping about how it's fake money. i'm bored talking with you subhumans.

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I love bella!

>> No.3645740

>>3618674
ching chong small dong

>> No.3645772

>>3618674
your dick small so ching chong small ding

>> No.3645831

>>3645611
You can't call someone "subhuman" when you like chinks
Your human reps

>> No.3645933

smells like malaysian chinks are on this thread

>> No.3646028

>>3645933
>artiacords
>malaysian
Y-You are delusional, t-there is no SEAslug here

>> No.3646035

>>3645933
What do they post?

>> No.3646063 [DELETED] 

>>3618036
I don't know. What happened? I don't visit Zhang sites.

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>3644796

meds

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3DeE5wSHpc

Since this is the designated China thread, anybody know what's going on with Koinoya Mai? Seems like she's going to start streaming on bilibili now, and that's causing a bit of a stir. What I can gather being an EOP is that it was a company decision and not something she chose to do and now she's getting hate for it. Apparently she's still going to stream on youtube though, at least for now.

Looks like a really stupid move on the company's part making the talent announce something like this and them getting caught in the ever going shitslinging fest.

>> No.3648434

>>3631421
so, exactly like twitch?

>> No.3648531

>>3648251
Not uncommon to split streams between YouTube and Bilibili. I would understand if she can't stream on YouTube at all anymore

>> No.3648549

I can smell filthy Cina Anjings shitposting from their little houses in Ipoh here

>> No.3648605

>>3640591
i would imagine being told that your country sucks would case somebody to be bad but jesus

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Lol, Zhangs unironically just threw a shitfit cause a vtuber posted that they ate something that came from Taiwan.

>> No.3649186

>>3649144
no offense but you reap what you sow tia
Shouldve just kept your moth shut and your head low..

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>>3618036
https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1392713757139210243
英語のレッスン頑張ってきた〜!今日は朝から夜まで打ち合わせとレッスン漬け
みんなの応援ほしいな〜〜?

[EN]
I have been working hard on my ENGLISH lessons!
Today is packed with meetings and lessons from morning until night
I want everyone's support〜〜?
>English, not chinese
>how that makes you feel zhang?

>> No.3649409

>>3649364
why doesnt she just ask coco for english collab streams??????

>> No.3649558

>>3649409
she will, she is expectorating her stinky mud trap zhang fanbase

>> No.3650328

>>3644796
>>3645071
>>3645611
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All of your """"""""""""technology""""""""""""" are stolen. All of your achievement are based on thievery. You've brought plague to this world and 2 nukes are unironically not enough to wipe you out from this earth. Chinks and rest of the humans in this planet earth can not coexist with each other.

>> No.3653500

>>3648251
She unfollowed Coco on twitter right after bilibili announcement top kek. I guess if you pander to chinks you have to behave like chink

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>>3653500
Correction: she unfollowed all hololive girls she was following except Korone beacuse she was lower on her following list so she missed her. Lets see if she do something about this now that people are pointing this out in the comments.

>> No.3654031

>>3644946
>the ccp is slowly trying to convert him by sending only it’s top quality shit anon’s way

>> No.3654106

NOW IM NOT SAYING I ADVOCATE GENOCIDE... BUT

>> No.3654125

>>3618674
Fuck off namefag

>> No.3654175 [DELETED] 

>>3618036
How is this probable patient 0 for the corona-virus doing these days anyway?

>> No.3654551

>>3648251
that dislike ratio kek

>> No.3654616

>>3648251
Some history of her company for context:
About half a year ago when ProPro was much smaller, another member Yumesaki Mia started getting clipped by a Taiwanese subber. She thanked the subber and said "I love Taiwan" on stream, which then got posted on some zhang forum, and she ended up suffering some minor chinkspam on like one stream. Taiwanese fans ramped up support in response to this, and she went from about 3K subs to over 30K within a couple weeks. Fast forward a few months and ProPro is debuting their second generation starting with Koinoya Mai. The existing fanbase plus being pretty cute and having an amazing live2D model made her debut successful beyond expectation, reaching 100K subs in about a month. Chinese subbed clips from the Taiwanese subbers got posted on bilibili without permission where some of them racked up I think over a million views. This is probably what caused the company to decide she might be popular and open up a presence there, but it seems incredibly retarded considering that perhaps the majority of the support for the entire company's talents (at least in terms of superchats) comes from Taiwan. Honestly ProPro is the last company I'd expect to attempt streaming on bilibili given everything that's happened, but vtuber companies are notorious for terrible decisions. Pretty unfortunate if this kills all their momentum and especially bad timing since a new member is set to debut tomorrow.

>> No.3654668 [DELETED] 

>>3650328
War on Terror 9/11 Larry Silverstein Mikhail Gorbachev The Westington House Scandal Latin American Puppet Dictators Operation Condor Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein CIA Agents The Clinton Chronicles Waco Siege Kinder Egg Surprise The Clinton Blowjob Scandal Nixon Watergate Scandal The Fake Tibetan Protest of 2008 Staged Coup of Colombia Kandahar massacre War on Terror Patriot Act PRISM Edward Snowden The Guantanamo Bay Illegal Occupation CIA black sites Human Rights NSA mass surveillance Warrantless Wiretapping 4th Amendment violations Julian Assange whistle-blower manhunt Ecuadorian embassy refuge Corporate interests worker's rights healthcare rights free education Police militarization incarceration rate fake weapons of mass destruction Petrodollar warfare Israel "special" relationship ban on boycott Free Palestine USS Liberty attack by IDF Mossad cover up false anti-semitism accusations depleted uranium mutinions war crime ignoring the Geneva Convention Agent Orange My Lai Massacre Contras 1973 Chile coup CIA backing puppet dictators Illegal Occupation 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état United Fruit Company Cuban Missile Crisis and the Turkish Missile Crisis Bay of Pigs Iran Contra Operation Northwoods Area51 Saudi lobby American Cover-Up of Trials of Unit 731 Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse MKUltra Tuskegee syphilis experiment Suspension of Habeas Corpus Sedition Acts civil rights Martin Luther King murder Cointelpro Bombing of Libya Bombing of Yemen Bombing of Syria Intervention in Yugoslavia Philippine Genocide of 1900 Choctaw Trail of Tears Andrew Jackson illegal Overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii the Illegal Colonialism of American Samoa Guam and other Pacific Islands the Economic Embargo on Mexico haole invasion the rape of Okinawa Jarhead rapists migrant caravan ICE children in cages Russian puppet president Kinder surprise

>> No.3654814

>>3644959
No need to do that, Xi will flex his country's "Supremacy" against some close neighboor and then have an "austrian mustache man" moment, one so bad and undeniably true due to mass media exposure of modern times that the muscle memory of all the anglos, some spics, the Japanese, Pajeets and even the NEINS themselves and the rest of the free-world will inmediately go "NOPE!!!, not again" and inmediately go full retard against him, heck, even the RusBros might cut ties just for survivability of their nation and remain neutral, after all, if China breaks, that's free territory for them to take.

>> No.3655062

>>3621624
Orphan

>> No.3655147

>>3618674
What?

>> No.3655817

>>3618674
Go back to your firewall.

>> No.3656179

>>3618674
What ?

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>>3654668
Oh fuck oh no, now the NSA is going to shut off my internet again. That's the third time this month, fucking Zhangs!

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>>3654668
That doesn't work over here zhang. I can scream this shit in the streets without anyone batting an eye.

>> No.3656924

>>3654668
Everything.... Everything but Kinder surprise.....

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>>3654616
So basically a company just sacrificed their most popular talent to the outrage mob all because they wanted to see that sweet RMB. And I guess the decision to unfollow all holos was from management, not Mai's own choice too. Fucking hell man, that's some serious sleaze.

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>>3650328
seethe reddit

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>>3656913
are there still soldiers and fences around your capital?

>> No.3657367

>>3643104
Not sure why you're saying random bullshit
Hanser's channel is still there
https://space.bilibili.com/11073?from=search&seid=16421606490945475921
And Nanami is streaming
https://live.bilibili.com/21452505

>> No.3657413

>>3654814
and then the dam will break! any day now

>> No.3658619

https://vup.darkflame.ga/ranking/month/2021/4?sortby=income
Bilibros...

>> No.3659339

>>3657237
>Zhang can't tell the difference between a bike cop and a guardsman

Do chinks really?

>> No.3659424 [DELETED] 

>>3654668
Why must Zhangs be like this?

>> No.3659650

>>3639890
Sometimes I have a fantasy of being the leader of a small island nation and putting every cent the country has in its reserves to put a bounty on Xiping’s head. The bounty would be announced at a world wide press conference of course with my announcement being front and center. In this ideal fantasy the reward cannot be claimed by a country so that way a group cannot lay claim to the bounty and cause a war to break out. They must bring me his disembodied head on a pike to show the world. I would sacrifice my own perfect hypothetical nation with possible millions of people living in it to protect the world from taking any more casualties from those cruel soulless Chinese devils.

>> No.3659815

>>3654814
GOD I WISH THEY WOULD SLIP UP ALREADY SO I CAN JOIN THE MILITARY TO EXCLUSIVELY COMMIT WAR CRIMES SLAUGHTERING VILLAGES IN CHINA

>> No.3659959

>>3654814
What was it that Wallace Shawn's character said? "Never fight a land war in Asia" Either its Nukes or nothing.

>> No.3661633

>>3657413
it's going to be funny when the dam actually fails with all these posts
kind of like the "just two more weeks" posting conspirtards did about covid 2 years ago

>> No.3661760

>>3618674
ching chong xiao dong

>> No.3661802

>>3648251
I understand jp, chinese and english and watch mai. Going to bilibili was entirely her own decision and management gave her the ok. Other members don't seem to want to go to bilibili yet. Honestly, she is pretty retarded and i am not sure what management is thinking either, their whole company depends on taiwanese. Some japanese and a lot of taiwanese felt betrayed by her now.

>> No.3661812

>>3618036
You don't get it, the new rules in Bilibili is to gain control over any vtuber that doesn't pay them enough or get problematic, bilibili is really scummy when its come to business, they can arbitrary take your channel, block your access to it and still profit from it, and you couldn't do shit, because they have connection in the chinese government.

>> No.3661871

>>3661802
Does she think that China and Taiwan are on good terms and her Taiwan fans would be happy about her streaming there? Or does she not know that she had more Taiwan fans than Chinese?

>> No.3661903

>>3659959
this doesn't apply to china, it's a saying about russia because every idiot that tried to invade russia got defeated by their climate.
china is fairly easy to invade, it's mostly empty and easy to maneuver, it also has a lot of rivers you can sail in.
that's how the british did it, they just sailed up the river and crushed any chinese ship that tried to stop them.
that's part of why china is such a big country, once you start taking land there isn't any real geography there to stop you, so you can just keep going.

>> No.3661957

>>3661871
She doesn't need to think. The company management, on the other hand, is retarded as been proved over and over.
In the end, Chinese are even more xenophobic and nationalistic than Japanese, and they won't accept foreigners to mess with their entertainment industry.

>> No.3661961

>>3640162
China is 100 times worse than foreigners make it out to be, half the time foreigners just unknowingly share Chinese propaganda with an undertone of "china bad", but in reality China is a fundamentally broken nation that relies heavily on isolationism and indoctrination to function at all. What's so broken about China is that nobody in China can admit wrongdoing, from the smallest little cog in the machine all the way up to Xi and his inner circle, because if any of them did, it'd be off with their heads.
China is a nation that has put itself into a situation where no matter how dire the circumstances, the government succeeds. This is poison to a nation and you will witness China crumbling within the next 20 years.

>>3648605
The natural reaction to "your government sucks" is usually "yeah, they sure do haha", because they all, always do.

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>>3661957
Now I feel conflicted over this if this was her idea. I want to give her the benefit of the doubt and say that she was she thought it was a way to branch out more to an audience she thought liked her and didn't really know about the Cover China arc, though I ultimately want to lay the blame on ProPro agreeing to this and not doing their reps on the matter. I'm sure this is just pure cope on my end since I really like her.

>> No.3663798

>>3663131
Sometimes people are just dumb, anon. It sounds like either she/management thought the taiwanese don't have anything against streaming in bilibili or the idea of getting even a fraction of all those viewer's money was too tempting. They brought it to themselves regardess.

>> No.3663944

>>3657189
You know where you are right?

>> No.3663997

>>3663131
She'll be the Zhangs bitch say goodbye to her vtubing career.

>> No.3664491

>>3663131
You know what's more funny? Even the bilibili chinese think she is greedy playing two sides (they want genuine girls) and she won't be successful on bilibili. Her specialty is asmr and asmr is banned on bilibili. Her sc 70% is from taiwanese, why risk it?

>> No.3664993

>>3664491
>asmr is banned on bilibili
You can't make like fake sex noises but otherwise ASMR is fine. Like half of the streams on there at any time are asmr sluts.

>> No.3665132

>>3664993
...there is more to ASMR than lewd shit?

>> No.3665154

can't say I really know what goes on in china besides the genocide and slave labor and what not

>> No.3665184

this place is an unreliable source of information and just full of horseshit memes

>> No.3665199

>>3665154
so just what america propaganda tell you

>> No.3665212

>>3665132
I personally don't understand why anyone would listen to ASMR other than to jerk off but apparently there is non-sexual ASMR.

>> No.3665332

>>3665212
Its mostly sexual for people in Hololive. If they wanted to listen to it for its 'calming effect' then they'd listen to the ones made by professionals with massive yt channels

>> No.3665358

>>3664993
Correction: Other anon is sorta right, the phrase "ASMR" is literally banned. They still do ASMR anyway but call it 3D audio or something like that.

>> No.3665637

The new rules by the ccp doesn't allow lewd things on stream anymore but whether it would be actually regulated is unknown. My personal hunch is you can get banned if multiple people report you and get manually reviewed.

>> No.3665695 [DELETED] 

>>3638668
They've been here for a long time, and they really stood out during Pekora, Haato and Cocos's incidents.

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>>3665637
That's definitely going to happen. Zhangs don't hesitate to trample on others over the most minuscule thing in order to be better off in some way

>> No.3666089

>>3665943
Dat social credit doe

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>>3665943
>>3665637
you really enjoy being losers really inventing your own fantasies like qtards huh?

one of the most popular vtuber streamers uses vrchat to do strip dances, twerk, and say english sentences from erp her heard in vrchat. "ohh i want your dick in my baby so hard" "i'll put my finger into your ass" and this kinda stuff.

what happens is she's in a bimbo outfit hotshorts tits hanging out with fishnet stocking basically like a street walker listening to that song WAP twerking like she's on a dildo (probably is) and then a moderator cuts the stream or messages her to stop. then she just switches to like an alien or gundam avatar in the vrchat and keeps doing the same dance.


all the stuff about bilibili cracking down was just island chinks from the province of taipei spreading schizo narrative like seanigger do. vtubers on youtube can't do half the shit they can on bilibili. you can't even say asmr because they ban asmr on youtube just the same.

>> No.3666530

>>3666223
What's her account? I can report her so those immoral acts are put to a stop.

>> No.3666603

>>3666223
man it's crazy seeing real life mainlanders spout their disinformation fed to them by the party online

>> No.3666714

>>3665943
My family had the same business experiences with them, at least we learned pretty quickly to avoid all dealings with them. They really will try to cheat you at any point.

>> No.3666754

>>3666223
>rules don't matter, they're only there so the party can stop people they don't want to stream
why did you think this would appeal to westerners?

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>>3666754
what rules you dumbass? the ones that got google translated or lied about from island chinks here to cope cause they're cuckolds?

it's been 15+ months since the island chinks first spammed about how vtubing is finished cause "ccp" rules. just last month island chinks once again talked about how vtubing is finished cause bilibili outlined the rules that were pretty much already in place.

being a schizo and inventing "rules" in your own imagination while not knowing what the culture on bilibili is only proves you're mentally retarded and mentally ill.

>>3666530
if you're so stupid you need to ask then you're incapable of reporting her anyway.

>> No.3666913

>>3666881
You are chinese, you are 100% dumber than me, please stay in your lane chung.

>> No.3666952

>>3666881
any law in china is only applicable if you aren't rich enough or you don't bow hard enough to party officials

>> No.3666955

>>3666881
>if you're so stupid you need to ask then you're incapable of reporting her anyway.
Post the link if you're so sure

>> No.3666962

>>3666913
i'm not chinese though you dumb subhuman. i've been learning chinese after i learned japanese so you can already understand your iq is about 40-50 points lower than mine.

>> No.3666987

>>3666962
learning languages doesn't make you smarter
and you are still chinese even if you're a muslim
enjoy the water wars

>> No.3667099

>>3666962
> your iq is about 40-50 points lower than mine.
I’ve long thought that the boards IQ is 0 but thats impossible. Yours is totally possible though

>> No.3667123

>>3666952
cause rich people play by the rules everywhere, right? ease up on trying to rule your mental retardation.

she's not rich and her popularity is recent. she's just a vrchat coomerhead who has been doing vtubing for years now but got popular recently.

>>3666987
>>3667099
keep seething. go grind some reddit karma faggot. you're never learning japanese.

>> No.3667141

>>3667123
The rule of law exists in western countries, yes.
You should work a lot harder one your English reps because you aren't very good with it. Stop trying to make it seem like China is normal and like everywhere else, it's not. You'll regret it soon enough if you are a seanig.

>> No.3667183

>>3640162
shh don't tell people the secret

>> No.3667185

>>3666881
You really think taiwanese are doing all this? Who is the real schizo now

>> No.3667220

>>3667123
Hey anon you keep forgetting to include that link in your posts. I'm still waiting for it.

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>>3650328

>> No.3667251

>>3667220
please understand, he's using deepl to the best of his ability

>> No.3667281

>>3667247
Is this the CPC's attempt at subversion?

>> No.3667306

>>3666223
>seeing the disinformation fed to zhangs

Its so eye opening.

>> No.3667310

>>3667123
i still don't see a link anonchama

>> No.3667339

>>3667306
>billibilli vtuber (term created because of youtube) can do more than youtubers
>despite this, we will use VPNs en masse to watch youtube streams
it's pretty crazy, huh?

>> No.3667361

>>3667306
It often surprises me how many of the things we take for granted seems so foreign to them

>> No.3667371

>>3667247
putting clothes on that is the complete opposite of gigachad. You can't even meme properly.

>> No.3667558

>>3618674
Why are the Zhangs still so obsessed with this?

>> No.3667621

>>3667339
>despite this, we will use VPNs en masse to watch youtube streams
who is we? your imagination? i use a chinese vpn to watch stuff that's region locked to china cause i'm in the us. by your brilliant 14 year old redditor logic westerners are desperate for chinese content

>billibilli vtuber (term created because of youtube) can do more than youtubers
they're called 虚拟主播 in chinese, retard. it's the equivalent of virtual broadcaster or streamer. was i suppose to use the chinese word while writing english? you've got a big brain LOL

>> No.3667669

>>3667621
China sucks dude

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>>3618674
God I hate zhangs

>> No.3667718

>>3667693
is that fucking modi? Indians have some wild TV

>> No.3667757

>>3667693
based

>> No.3667848

>>3664491
Hasn't there been instances of VTubers being harassed over trying to balance both bilibili and Youtube? I can't really see this ending well in the long run if the backlash Mai's gotten is any indication, from trying to appease the audience on bilibili and having to deal with the people pissed at the decision.

>> No.3667875

>>3666223
ZHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG

>> No.3667877

>>3667848
no, no one is harassed in China, that's western propaganda from reddit

>> No.3667881

>>3667247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COmZSxnZfiA

>> No.3667906

>>3667881
the most based man in the entirety of mainland china
him and that one MMA guy who beats up "tai chi" masters

>> No.3667919

>>3666223
>>3666881
First thing i am not saying vtubers on bili are dead but just going to be censored.

I can understand chinese and i have actual friends in china too.I am familiar with bilibili and chinese net culture. I have been using bili for 6 years and involved myself in chinese music cd ripping and distribution scene for 10 years before too.

The government is definitely cracking down on lewd stuff. Here's a few incidents lately involving the weeb scene like the azur lane and arknights game removing their lewd outfits and going for review, bilibili licensed anime series mushoku got taken down because lots of people got mad at the mc being a lolicon (the real trigger for this incident is for another reason). One of the largest chinese tl group for doujins got arrested for distributing and tling lewds last month and i actually know a guy inside, other major tl groups are scared shitless and went into hiding.

All these incidents happened due to various reasons but there is one similarity, they all got mass reported for lewd reasons by malicious people and ccp cracked down on them.

The new ccp rules on bilibili give malicious people justification to report chuubas easily. May be you should actually stop blindly defending the ccp.

Actually why are you even here in 4chan? It is probably easier to hang around the chuuba community in bili or tieba etc.

>> No.3667964

>>3667693
kek

>> No.3668036

>>3667919
Is there any point in talking sense to a brainwashed Zhangs since birth?

>> No.3668047

>>3668036
it's almost impossible to change someone who is that sure in their ways opinion about anything online

>> No.3668150

>>3667558
The same reason holo fans are still obsessed with the chinese

>> No.3668221

>>3618036
Daily reminder
>Be Artia
>Promote yourself in /jp/
>Noone gives a shit about you
>Become a holo
>Your gay discord starts raiding threads to promote your shit streams
>Anons eventually find about your past life
>Private everything
>Say that twitch is a secret thing and the manager doesn't know
>Manager eventually knows and butt slaps you
>You manage to stream on twitch again
>Changs use VPNs to watch you
>Get shadowbanned
>Start having a meltdown on twitter
>Make a stream where you send a petition to twitch
>You are so retarded you show your IP
>Make another stream having another meltdown
>THIS IS NOT A JOKE THIS IS NOT A JOKE THIS IS NOT A JOKE
>You declare that you are going to get your genmates on twitch
>They go to youtube instead
>Get cucked and ridiculed by the unicorn
>Try really hard to pander to /jp/ culture
>They still don't give a shit about you
>Try really hard to pander to twitch culture becoming a subhuman goblin
>Noone gives a shit about you
>Manage to win a League tournamente against nijis, giving you some new outfits
>Orange woman says bad word
>Get mad
>Start referring to the situation in the most passive agressive way possible
>Watch the wolf warrior alongside the Siren
>In all of this, another company approaches you so you can keep your models going """indie"""
>You accept, going on a stream telling that
>You comment about an Aqua song that got leaked
>You ended up breaking some rules with that
>You can't keep your avatar neither your genmates
>All of you are getting canned
>More leaks about how you are a piece of trash appears
>Do a terrorist attack on a poor Taiwanese girl while doing a poor attempt at being funny
>Have a meltdown on stream, considering the chance to put a bullet on your head
>Cry about not wanting to be an ambassador despite being something you chose in the firace place
>Meanwhile, hololive members see your house in ARK and start laughing at you
>Get graduated
>You make a face reveal stream
>You are ugly as shit
>Your faggots try to get into /wvt/ but just like in /jp/ they get bullied nonstop
>/vt/ is created
>your discord finally has a containment thread where they can delude themselves how nothing of the above happened
>Despite all the shilling they do, you can't get better numbers than a swedish menhera
>You are so jealous of the success of other chuubas you decide to nuke every talk related to them

>> No.3668275

>>3668221
>cucked and ridiculed by the unicorn
based

>> No.3668280

>>3667919
Ebic, they'll presumably pirate it from somewhere else.

>> No.3668433

>>3668036
I am just curious since this guy is in 4chan of all places. I have interacted first hand with schizos and nationalist on their own forums and seen how aggressive and toxic they can get. He is still pretty mild and i have seen worse. The older generation of chinese netizens i hang out with before are all much more knowledgeable, logical and neutral. The newer generations of chinese net users are definitely more susceptible to nationalism and easily baited with narratives.

>> No.3668452

>>3668433
can you explain why this is? I've noticed this too. Chinese used to be everywhere online in the past but only recently have they gotten this retarded

>> No.3668469

>>3667558
The Chinese government puts out a lot of propaganda about how awesome China is, the economy is booming, all these foreigners (even wealthy Americans) want to sell their products there, and so on. Then Yagoo retired the CN branch and said it wasn't making money, which, due to the propaganda, is like a personal attack to the glorious nation of China. And to make matters worse, it was very shortly after he opened up Hololive English, and in China, English = America = capitalism, and they hate that stuff. So to all the schizophrenic nationalists in China, of which there are many, these anime girls who stream video games have unironically become an issue of communism vs. capitalism. They basically need Hololive to fail in order to protect their identities as proud chinese communists.
The secondary issue is that Hololive is way more interesting than anything else on Bilibili. CN vtuber fans have nothing to do now that they left. You expect them to watch ASoul or something? ha

>> No.3668528

>>3668452
>>3668433
I'm still here, we don't need to proclaim our nationality and rub it in everyone's faces. It still makes me sad that people in the west will look down on me because of the actions of a few people.

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This Thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHsGO8a8WOE

>> No.3668894

>>3668433
>>3668469

Thanks anons.

>> No.3668962

>>3668280
Isn't that exactly what happened with the Mulan movie they hyped as nationalistic, it later bombed over there, but all of the reviews where from pirated copies so it made absolutely fuck all?

>> No.3668975

>>3663131
realistically if it was her idea you'd think she would bring it up with her audience first, perhaps in a member stream to gauge interest if she has something like that. Also the whole unfollowing hololive members makes it obvious that she or propro at least have some idea of the cover china arc. I think its a management decision, a poorly thought out one. Perhaps she agreed to it without much thought, that wouldn't be surprising.

>> No.3669023

>>3665332
not really, I like Okayu's ASMR and it s by no means in a sexual way. Often fall asleep to it.

>> No.3669067

>>3668962
Nah, I think it was actually in the theatres in China. Some people probably got early access. The movie was a fucking shitshow,ngl. Can't really blame them.

>> No.3669110

>>3668452
Too many factors including economy, education, government propaganda but the main contribution probably is the china firewall. They can only interact among each other and form a big personal hugbox. My own government is pretty bad and racist towards us and the uneducated is pretty retarded and schizo. Generally there are more retards nowadays online even for westerners due to social media influence and internet being easily accessible.

>>3668528
I apologize for generalizing and offending you anon. There are genuine chuuba fans in china and i know they are extremely passionate. We probably won't agree on issues like this. May be you are here to interact with westerners about chuubas (this thread isn't really the thread for you). Have a good day china anon.

>> No.3669248

>>3667881
Truly based.

>> No.3669253

>>3668433
Nationalism is not inherently wrong. It's when you are ignorant to your own nation's history and others is when you go wrong. Chinese are basically indoctrinated to be supremacist, and not just nationalistic. The middle kingdom sees itself as the center of the universe and everyone outside of it is an inferior. That goes well beyond mere nationalism. Mexicans, French, Americans, and Filipinos are generally nationalistic peoples but Chinese are taught that the Chinese race is superior.

>> No.3669342

>>3669253
>>3669253
>Chinese are taught that the Chinese race is superior.
KEK, last time this shit happened, Europe burned to the fucking ground, and as expected, like before, no one's will be giving a fuck until it's too late.
I will see you there anons.

>> No.3669450

>>3669253
nationalism is literally supremacy, X country is the best at everything
patriotism isn't nationalism

>> No.3669459

>>3669342
>Europeans become nationalists
>Europe burns to the ground
>Chinese become nationalists
>Europe burns to the ground
What are we going to do, anons?

>> No.3669491

>>3669459
Europe has always been a part of China

>> No.3669492

>>3669459
Just enjoy ur time with ur oshi until ur death.

>> No.3669530

>>3669450
Nationalism is supremacy anon, just without the race card there, but in the case of China, it is 100% race related, which makes them "Han Chinese Supremacists", but the world is not ready for that take yet, let them keep doing BS until the collective says "The fuck?" and everyone jumps the gun on a world-wide escale.

>> No.3669639

>>3668452
In addition to what that other anon said, like a decade ago less than a quarter of the Chinese population had internet. So the Chinese folks you encountered were more likely to be upper class, educated people who aren't insane. Now it's the majority who have it. But yea it's mostly due to Xi who took power fairly recently. He's a schizo and he managed to schizo-fy the entire country's culture.

>> No.3674818

>>3619657
But imagine we might get government sponsored Vtuber in the future.

My little communist cannot be this cute.

A everyday streaming there be patriotic song with following statement who gets a bullet in the head.

>> No.3674830

>>3668469
>Hololive
>interesting
choose one

>> No.3676004 [DELETED] 

>>3668221
That's just sad

>> No.3676306 [DELETED] 

>>3669530
I think it’s too late at this point. We probably won’t face full-on WW3 (hopefully), but as law-abiding citizens we’ll suffer from trade wars, hefty taxes on desirable products and a vexatious feeling of torpor towards this whole China vs west deal, knowing there isn’t much we can do about it though we should.

>> No.3679156

>>3669342
>Europe burned to the fucking ground
Yes and it led to the longest lasting period of peace within Europe, because Europe is not a homogenous entity, but many different groups that absolutely despise each other.

>> No.3679196

>>3667881
>drives korean car
holy based

>> No.3679238

>>3669253
>Nationalism is not inherently wrong
Nationalism is inherently wrong, because it inevitably will cloud your judgment and lead you down the road China is going down right now. A nation where the people running it can do no wrong, while they are obviously making severe mistakes constantly.

>> No.3679272

>>3676306
Nothing is going to happen, China will just fade away while being forced to confront it's brittle interior.

>> No.3679478

>>3679238
>Nationalism:identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.
I see no problem with this. Looking out for your nation's interests is right and there's nothing racist or xenophobic about it. Emotions can cloud people's judgment. People in American genuinely want all the illegal aliens to stay and more to keep coming because they FEEL bad for them. That's not a feasible idea.

>> No.3679513

>>3679478
No, the unfeasible idea is to not let them come in, because someone needs to do the slave labor. You are letting your emotions cloud your own judgment all the same.

>> No.3679714

Always funny how the Zhang bug is basicaly programed to seethe at you by calling you a redditor.

>> No.3679770

>>3679714
zhang learned that this is what you say to people who say bad things on this website, so now it's all he knows.

>> No.3679826

>>3679714
Zhangs still pissed they got kicked out of reddit

>> No.3679847

They still censor the word chink.

>> No.3680064

>>3679513
The reason Ameican wages are so low is because we've let millions of low wage workers in from the southern border for the past 30 years. You know nothing other than what your leftist cuck professions have indoctrinated you with. When a squatamalan will work in orange fields for $12/hr why would an American citizen do it if a convenience store pays the same? Excessive immigration depresses wages no matter the field as tech workers have seen with all the chinese and indian programmers that keep coming to the US.

>> No.3680389

>>3680064
>Imagine spending a quarter of your life getting and ejamacation only to end up doing shit job on a farm
Even nignogs aren't that stupid. Why would anyone want to spend all day on their kneels doing literal slave labor in the blazing sun for shit pay when they can do minimum work for same pay in an air condition low risk, low effort convenience store.

>> No.3680556

>>3680389
That's not my point. Most Americans don't have a degree and many that do don't have a job in their desired field. If there were less supply of cheap labor, then employers would be forced to raise wages in those sectors. This happened in Chicago a couple years ago when a ton of illegals were deported and almost all of them worked at McDonald's bun factory. The company was forced to hire citizens at much higher wages because their precious scab workers were gone.

>> No.3680571

>>3659815
just join up now anon. then you can fight for glorious israel against those dastardly palestinians and iranians in a few weeks

>> No.3680574

>>3680064
The reason American wages are so low is that there is 0 government interferrence with the market and the people who offer jobs can force wages down. Because unless the government supports people, people need work to survive. This means there is a massive power imbalance between the employers and the workers. The employer has no incentive to pay more for low-skilled labor and the employee has no option to lobby for higher wages, because if they do, they will simply get replaced.

This is why your wages are so low, because people have no choice but to sell their work for pennies on the dollar. Market forces are at play here that go beyond simplistic "supply and demand".

>> No.3680645

>>3680556
for anyone wondering this happens because supply and demand is universal and applies to labor.
so by deporting illegals you're lowering the supply of menial labor while the demand remains the same, increasing the value of menial labor.
the same thing happened after the black plague and ww2, where a lot of man died, so the value of labor shot up.

>> No.3680723

>>3680645
Supply and demand is a simplistic model that only has limited application in the real world, especially more complex markets like the labor market or the housing market.

>> No.3681017

>>3680723
yes it's very simplistic but it still function to some degree in almost every situation.
including the housing and labor markets.
if two employees exists and they each need 50 workers to run their plants, while only 80 workers exist they will compete with each other to give better salaries and benefits to attract workers to their company.
on the higher end if you have specialized rare skills which make you valuable as a worker many different employers that want these skills will fight over you.
the way for employers try to avoid paying people more, or giving them extra benefits, is importing workers from other countries and flooding the jobs market.
yes this is a simplistic view but it's good enough for 4chan and it accurately describes the situation in america.

>> No.3681111

>>3680574
You think government makes everything better, don't you? Government is best when it's local and not the heavy hand of the state demanding what business must do. You are a dyed in the wool statist that can't understand individual liberty. Why should the state coerce an employer to pay anyone anything? All the govt needs to do is enforce proper health and safety standards in workplaces and prevent certain kinds of discrimination. That's it.
>>3681017
Exactly. In America, we're paying people to not work and as a result, employers are hiring at considerably higher wages to offset the loss of labor created by, guess who, the state.

>> No.3681283

>>3681017
>if two employees exists and they each need 50 workers to run their plants, while only 80 workers exist they will compete with each other to give better salaries and benefits to attract workers to their company.
The issue however is that you never have a situation where there's less people than unskilled jobs, where the employers need to compete, they can just run the labor prices into the ground and if they can't, they can just pick up their things and leave.

>>3681111
>You think government makes everything better, don't you?
No, I am saying that the free market is not efficient at creating the maximum value for everyone involved and only by forcing the hand the of the market a sustainable and stable society can be created. Why is America a crime ridden shithole, while nations with functioning welfare programs designed to incentivize people to get work are not? It's almost like the model of not having a livable minimum wage and not giving people the "luxury" to properly look for work without losing their livelihood.

Supply and demand does not apply to the labor market.

>> No.3681375

>>3618674
Taiwan.

>> No.3681650

>>3641952
lmao. i choose nyanner over whatever this is.

>> No.3682459

>>3681283
>The issue however is that you never have a situation where there's less people than unskilled jobs, where the employers need to compete, they can just run the labor prices into the ground and if they can't, they can just pick up their things and leave.
>never
it literally happened during ww2, it literally happened post the black plauge the only reason it's not happening now is because of immigration.
as nations get wealthier the population stabilizes, meaning most families will have 2 or less children.
if you take into acount many of these children will have skilled work, the amount of people in the market for unskilled work naturally decreases, while the amount of jobs increases or stagnates depending on automation.
we'd literally have that situation going right now in most western nations if it wasn't for mass migration.
it's not never, it has happened, it will happen, and it'd have been now if it wasn't for government interference (the democrats in America and the Germans in Europe)

>> No.3682489

>>3682459
A nations wealth is tied to the number of people in it, it's why a complete shithole like china can levarage their billion people into something, until those people all die out.
If you want to see why reducing the number of available unskilled workers is a bad thing, just keep an eye on China.
Or perhaps learn from Japan.

>> No.3682609

>>3666223
Based post

>> No.3682679
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>>3669639
>due to Xi who took power fairly recently. He's a schizo and he managed to schizo-fy the entire country's culture.
Xi has literally been doing the same thing his predecessors have been doing
Pic related is this entire thread

>> No.3682700

>>3682489
japan is doing and will do better then america, automation can and will replace most low skilled workers, reducing or maintaining the population is a net good. (though i do think the Japanese should honestly fuck more)
it is much better then importing new people from 3rd and 2nd world countries and the horrible effect they have on a country.
you can't import a people without importing their culture, and their culture is why their country is a shithole.
also saying a nation's wealth is tied to its population is retarded, most african countries are dirt poor and have large populations, same with russia, same with all of rural china.
at the other side of the spectrum tiny countries like hong kong, taiwan and israel have fairly high levels of wealth.
but honestly fuck overall wealth and gdp, the important thing is how good of a place a country is to live in.

>> No.3682725

>>3682700
>the important thing is how good of a place a country is to live in
which is why effective welfare programs are essentially to the success of a nation

>> No.3682748

>>3682700
>tiny countries like hong kong, taiwan
These two aren't countries tho
It's like saying Guangdong is a rich country

>> No.3682763

>>3682679
Xi has not acted at all like his predecessors.

>> No.3682765

>>3682679
Ah yes, everyone who doesn't like Chinkland is American.

>> No.3682773

>>3682725
Wish I was living in Finland or the countries around it

>> No.3682790

>>3682725
key word being effective.
welfare programs are super dangerous and have a tendency to create a moocher class (inner city blacks in America, chavs in England and so on) so if you're gonna have them, you need to make sure you don't create dependency.

>>3682748
ogey zhang

>> No.3682802

>>3682763
He acts like his predecessor Mao though

>> No.3682809

>>3682748
>These two aren't countries tho
i hear enough

>> No.3682820

>>3682763
How?
What has Xi done that the leaders before him didn't?
>>3682765
You don't have to be American to be like that picture
I just don't have any other verison that doesn't say USA #1
You can also be a retarded Euro.
>>3682790
>ogey zhang
They literally aren't though
They're Special Administration Regions, they literally have no history of ever being a country

>> No.3682826

>>3682790
The issue is that nothing in American and England works, because it turns out those nations were fundamentally broken with Reagan's and Thatcher's respective neoliberal austerity politics.

>> No.3682850

>>3682820
get lost zhang
go get your bear in charge some honey maybe he'll mellow out then

>> No.3682862

>>3682850
I'll get lost once you take your meds

>> No.3682881

>>3682820
Taiwan is a country.

>> No.3682880

>>3682862
Coming from a nation of schizos, that's an odd thing to say.

>> No.3682915

>>3682881
How? Even according to the ROC constitution Taiwan is just a province...
>>3682880
>Coming from a nation of schizos
I don't come from America

>> No.3682977

>>3682915
Zhang, Weibo might be more to your liking than here

>> No.3683017

>>3682977
You can't just respond with every post calling you're schizophrenic theories out zhang
It just makes you look more like schizoid

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>>3618674
>the webm got deleted
Gotchu senpai

>> No.3683758

>>3683630
Why do Indians do this

>> No.3683782

>>3683758
they're Based

>> No.3683841

>>3682915
>I don't come from America
Zhangchama... Your faking reps...

>> No.3683976

>>3683758
What's China gonna do? Invade their country?

>> No.3684081

>>3681283
>Why is America a crime ridden shithole, while nations with functioning welfare programs designed to incentivize people to get work are not?
It's simple. Demographics. Stop comparing America to EU nations and East Asia and start comparing it to nations like Brazil and India. America has close to 400 million people here if you include illegal aliens and we have a bunch of people taking from the welfare pool and not contributing. The high crime is from young black and latino males primarily fueled by drug gangs that are supplied by, once again, a wide open border and politicians that corruptly benefit from it in multiple ways.
Close the border, halt immigration entirely for a time as we did post WWII and watch wages across the board increase.

>> No.3684158

>>3682489
>A nations wealth is tied to the number of people in it
There are literally hundreds of millions of Chinese and Indians living in abject poverty right now. The nation is wealthy but many of its people are poor. America, by comparison, has and average citizen who's much wealthier than the average Chinese or Indian.

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3684326

>>3684158
Yes but average city chink is rich enough to push them to #1 market already. In 10 years it will be even worse.

Seriously people love to shitpost about china falling apart etc. but the truth is they are only getting stronger and it's not going to change anytime soon. And big companies will only pander to them more and more.

No matter how much people seethe about it bilibili vtubers will be successful and make a lot of money. Not like this matters much for JP and EN vtubers. Hololive wasn't making that much $$$ in china anyways. Niji apparently isn't making that much either.

>> No.3684407

>>3684326
>Seriously people love to shitpost about china falling apart
People like you are either chingchongs yourself or you don't understand how bad things really are in China.

>> No.3684462

>>3684407
>you don't understand how bad things really are in China
elaborate

>> No.3684511

>>3684326
>Completely ignores the demographic collapse coming to them.
Zhagnon...
>>3684158
This is true, for example, while several nations of spic land have a considerable economic growth, their economic development is toast, China is no different with their economic push over their big cities but little to no way of actually developing their small business which hold up their entire industries.

>> No.3684517

>>3684407
I'm not chinese you retard. And people are saying this for decades now. Same way they say it about EU. Chinks have it better then rest of the world now.

https://tradingeconomics.com/

>> No.3684593

>>3684517
>Chinks have it better then rest of the world now.
Have you ever been to China?

>> No.3684595

>>3684407
If you listened to the internet China/India/Brazil/SA/USA/EU are falling apart tomorrow.

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3684628

I HATE chinks
That is all

>> No.3684634

>>3684517
>Chinks have it better then rest of the world now.
>Chinks have it better then rest of the world now.
>CHINKS HAVE IT BETTER THEN REST OF THE WORLD NOW
How fucking delusional are you Zhangnon?, you on opium or something???

>> No.3684703

>>3684593
Can you read? +18% when most of the planet is in negative. I don't care if 500 million chinese are living in slums another 800 million aren't and they are pushing chink economy. They will soon be the first economy and by far the largest market on Earth.

Their government may be trash but I'm not even sure if I hate them or burger government more. They both fucking suck.

>> No.3684713

>>3684703
Isn't all this data self-reported?
Just something for you to consider.

>> No.3684745

>>3684713
No it's not they are monitored by countless organizations from all over the globe.

>> No.3684799

>>3684511
>demographic collapse coming to them.
Name one country where this actually caused problems or a damn near collapse

>> No.3684838

>>3684799
It's shitposting just like Japan collapsing. Demographics matter less than ever and with AI and robots getting better and more common every year in 20 years most countries will wish they have less people.

>> No.3684848

>>3684703
>Their government may be trash but I'm not even sure if I hate
The Chinese government is unironically the best government for the Chinese people in ages
Also don't forget those 500 millions in the slums are quickly getting out of the slums

>> No.3684855

>>3684799
China... and China
And in a few years... China... Again...

>> No.3684930

>>3684511
If China can pull off a 1 child policy, then they can probably pull off a 3 child policy.

>> No.3684973

>>3684745
how do those organizations get their data. I want you to seriously consider this.

>> No.3684991

>>3684838
Japan didn't collapse, it just faded away.

>> No.3685003

>>3684973
How about you learn the basics of economics first? Holy shit do you really think all those billion $ companies making business in China are fucking idiots?

>> No.3685019

>>3685003
the basics of economics are just that, the basics.
They hardly cover everything.

>> No.3685035

>>3684991
From #2 economy on Earth to #3 economy on Earth. Holy shit they are finished!

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3685044

Talking about China is pointless on here. Like 90% of it is just shit people make up because they somehow think they're knowledgeable on the culture based on the same 5 memes about China that gets spammed on 4chan.

>> No.3685103

>>3685044
No shit. This applies to almost every country 4chan is talking about. Most americans don't understand anything happening outside their state.

>> No.3685166

>>3685044
why is prison pekora so hot

>> No.3685182

>>3685166
Because you can imagine being a prison guard and raping her every day.

>> No.3685249

>>3684848
They are bastards but they are efficient bastards. 30 years ago average chink had living standards comparable to central Africa. Average income of average chinese family grew x5 in last 15 years. 20 years ago China was 3% of world GDP today they are 23%.

>> No.3685285

>>3685103
Sometimes they don't even know what's going on in their own state

>> No.3685316

>>3649186
Go back over the firewall please.

>> No.3685344

>>3684326
pretty sure China's being set up to be the new Nazi Germany, torn to shreds and occupied for years, if the world gradually uniting behind accusations of genocide are anything to go by.

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3685358

>>3684326
Oh there is a pandemic year data out. This insane growth in USA/EU also explains why EN vtubers are suddenly doing so much better. I only hope it won't drop down now that it's ending.

>> No.3685390

>>3685344
Nuclear weapons guarantee no world wars ever again. Nobody will risk a large war.

>> No.3685506

Why are we talking about demographics and economics in the vtuber board...

>> No.3685529

>>3685344
>if the world g
It's like 10 countries, actual Islamic countries don't believe US's bullshit

>> No.3685533

>>3685506
To shut up few angry trolls. It worked apparently.

>> No.3685652

>>3685344
Meh, not openly declaring war on the country means you give them time to solidify their own power bloc, like the U.S.S.R.This time, it'll be in the seas surrounding the mainland.

>> No.3686765

>>3684326
Pretty obvious you are ignoring the billion poor Chinese for 100 million wealthy ones.
>>3685103
Okay, Chink.

>> No.3686985

>>3686765
>you are ignoring the billion poor Chinese for 100 million wealthy ones
What's it like being this retarded

>> No.3687522

>>3686985
Presumably pretty limited. It might be like living in a fog, vaguely aware of things but never grasping them for what they are. You two must both have great experience with this lifestyle, after all. Acting like rabid dogs over something that couldn't concern your short life.

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