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3690029 No.3690029 [Reply] [Original]

I conjecture that any vtuber that meets these criteria is destined to dominate the vtuber world

>> No.3690066

Pikamee if you exchange talented for funny

>> No.3690072

>>3690029
Pikamee

>> No.3690089
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3690089

>Is cute and talented: X

>> No.3690093

>>3690066
Isn't being funny some type of talent?

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>>3690029
If set for bare minimums, I cannot disagree

>> No.3690126

>>3690066
cunny

>> No.3690133
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3690133

>pikamee
>fluent english

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>>3690029
Cover doesn't give her a channel due to the sheer amount of mogging she will cause.

>> No.3690200

>>3690133
More fluent than Coco

>> No.3690235

>>3690200
Not even close. Pikamee's English is pretty good and she's at the level where she is easy to understand and can usually express herself without issue but Coco is an actual English speaker. When she joined Hololive she knew more English than Japanese.

>> No.3690256

>>3690200
are you high anon? coco's english is better than her japanese

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3690355

>>3690029
I would like to submit my application

>> No.3690403
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3690403

Perfectly described Haachama

>> No.3690430

>>3690256
Have you watched her recently? Her english is getting fucked up, either that or she streams drunk every time

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>>3690430
>she streams drunk every time

>> No.3690522

>>3690029
Why aren't "cute" and "talented" separate criteria? It's not like there's any relation between the two.

>> No.3690540

>>3690235
I like how fast Pikamee can go from japanese to english and throw shit like
>this is kinda yabai ja nai?
like it's nothing

>> No.3690548

>>3690403
strongest idol for a reason

>> No.3690743

>>3690029
>Kiara
>Speaks fluent English
Kek

>> No.3690795

>>3690403
She's too powerful so god nerfed her by making her retarded. Truly a shame

>> No.3690902

>>3690029
>Is cute and talented
That criteria doesn't work because it's really subjective, anon. Not an awful shitpost for discussion, though.

>> No.3690909

>>3690743
Fluent just means being able to string together multiple sentences without stumbling.

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>>3690522
It's not that they're equal, just that they're both necessary.

>>3690029
Her time has come.

>> No.3690948

>>3690029
Alternating streams in Japanese and English without alienating your fans on either side is challenging and maybe even impossible. Coco doesn't even try it and Haachama's attempts have been very erratic. Loafy knows both and...still streams in Indonesian. Anya did a lot more JP when she started but has moved to mostly streaming in English now. Kiara has mostly given up on purposefully cultivating any Japanes fanbase beyond the ones willing to watch her stream in English.

>> No.3690978

>>3690403
The only three green on this chart

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>>3690403
How can other chuubas even compete?

>> No.3691026

>>3690795
kek

>> No.3691038

>>3690916
Her Studey English streams are hilarious

>> No.3691073

>>3690916
If only they didn't give her and Pikamee those godawful new models.

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>>3691005
Most are less insane. That's literally the answer.

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>> No.3691138

>>3690948
Pikamee has succeeded in this task, but only because she uses both EN+JP simultaneously. Even then, her EN fanbase is the larger of the two.

>> No.3691142

>>3691092
One day she will rule the world

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>>3691038
Not just those, her Space Yabai Radio streams are gold, too.

>>3691073
If you can't appreciate menhera spider and gorilloli, we can't be friends.

>> No.3691241

>>3691138
Pikamee does ok for a pseudo-indie but obviously she's not taking over the vtubing world anytime soon. Every time I've tried to watch her she's speaking Japanese with an occasional English sentence thrown in. She's really not much better than Coco in that regard.

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>>3691148
I just wish they didn't give tomoshika double skinfangs.

>> No.3691358

>>3691293
I'm used to that sort of thing because I've been watching anime for most of my forsaken life, but yeah, doesn't look good on her. GYARI has a style that he probably should have stuck to for now.

>> No.3691452

>>3690029

Prism Project has a few of these

>> No.3691493

>>3690029
it's like this was made just so kiara could be on it.
have you no shame kfp. pathetic.

>> No.3691523

>>3690403
haachama and suzy do meet all the criteria but they hide their english power level for some reason.

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>>3690403
As much as I love the chaos entity known as chammers, her english is terrible and I'm not even talking about the pronunciation which is bad but cute what I mean is she can not carry on a conversation beyond a basic level which leaves you feeling like you're talking to a 5 year old.

Pikamee is probably the closest to meeting OPs criteria her english is good but shes missing a vast amount of cultural context. Coco by contrast does have much of this context but I find her lisp and general thotery to be huge debuffs.

>> No.3691574

>>3690066
Picunny

>> No.3691629

>>3691544
Haachama is acting, she's a fully-fledged Aussie slag. Which makes it clear why she's hiding her English powerlevel.

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>>3690029

>> No.3691638

>>3690029
Add a "not menhera" column, separate funny from talented and you've got a point

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>>3690157
>fluent English
>Smily

>> No.3691701

>>3690157
How do I an A-chan gf?

>> No.3691906

>>3691638
If that were true, none of HoloEN would meet the criteria.

>> No.3691915

>>3691701
>find depressed OL gf in Japan
>take her out to karaoke until she gets good at singing
>enjoy a-chan gf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5anaYyVYAnc

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>>3691629
I hope she's saving it for an Australian shitposter alter ego

>> No.3691931

>>3691544
>her english is terrible and I'm not even talking about the pronunciation
>he doesn't know
>he lacks critical information
>he does not possess the knowledge
>he is unaware

>> No.3691988

>>3691241
Pikamees English is obviously ESL, but her accent being nearly at 0 makes her the cutest ESL chuuba I've ever listened to, that and she'll sometimes speak English for minutes at a time before switching back to Japanese. I don't think I've never heard Coco speak English for more than 30 seconds at a time, and what little I've heard its kind of on Pikamees level. I thought she was also ESL at first but maybe its true, you can regress in your native language. She can still pick up on the cultural nuances of English like sarcasm though so I guess you can regress in speaking it but still understand it like a native, which pikamee trips up on often.

>> No.3692145

>>3691629
I love when the aussie accent slips through for a few words. Especially when it's only the swears in a sentence.

>> No.3692147

>>3691906
Yes.

>> No.3692426

>>3690235
Pikamee slips into an Aussie accent when she swears in English, suggesting she lived there for a time - better than Boganchamma anyway

>> No.3692504

>>3691988
Pika's special brand of ESL is so endearing. Nee.

>> No.3692507

>>3692426
Pikamee lived in Texas as a young child, then Japan, then Texas again during her time at Uni, I don't think she's ever mentioned living in Aus or having Aus family and the rrat is that her dad was in the military.

>> No.3692537

>>3692507
Not much of a rrat if that's the most common way to get hafus.

>> No.3692544

>>3691988
It's very easy to lose words when you don't use your first language for a while. Grammar sticks better than words, but sometimes even that can suffer

>> No.3692563

>>3692507
I'm an Australian so perhaps I'm predisposed to hearing the twang when it might not be there, just the was she said fuck during the jump king stream was very familiar

>> No.3692573

>>3692426
Pretty sure haachamma can speak quite fluent english, but speaking like this pulls in more viewers.
Some anon posted a clip of her speaking aussie english a long time ago, and it was massive different to how shes speaking now

>> No.3692617

>>3690029
Marine will be this once her english improves.

>> No.3692645

>>3692617
you can't have all green.

>> No.3692741

>>3690029
is this why coco has the highest amount of donations?

>> No.3692815
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3692815

>Is cute and talented
>Speaks fluent japanese
>Speaks fluent english

>> No.3692878

>>3690235
Coco has forgotten a lot of her mother tongue. Pikamee is honestly a better speaker than her nowadays.

>> No.3692911

Suisei speaks fluent English, she just pretends not to.
She also speaks fluent Russian.

>> No.3692918

>>3691988
>but maybe its true, you can regress in your native language
I've been living in America for 10 years and I can barely write anything in my mother tongue without looking shit up. It's real.

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>>3690403
/thread

>> No.3693084

>>3692815
Chisato does not speak fluent English, it is broken and at time heavily accented

>> No.3693173

>>3690948
Today I will remind them:
>grin-der
>medi-cyan

That said, Lofi is miles better than Chammers.

>> No.3695204

>>3690795
hahaha

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>>3690029
The one and only.

>> No.3696971

>>3692911
>This one ate the pasta

>> No.3697041

>>3696824
shes not talented at anything tho, just cute

>> No.3697467

>>3692563
Texas and Australian accents aren't too far off. It's the specific regional lingo that really sets them apart.

>> No.3698897

>>3697041
IMO she is pretty talented slut.

>> No.3699828

>>3690029
I guess that means pikamee (v1) would have hit the top

>> No.3702434

>>3690029
I don't understand how did I thought Suisei was Pekora from the thumbnail.

>> No.3703455

>>3690157
holy shit cover please give a-chan her own channel I dont care if she streams once every 3 months please

>> No.3708408

>>3692507
>the rrat is that her dad was in the military.
There's no way he wasn't. Probably Air Force, since I think everywhere she's mentioned living (including fucking Guam, which is the real smoking gun. Moving between the US and Japan sure, but GUAM!?) has had a base. Well, that and her membership being "Pikairforce", so she's not even hiding it

>> No.3709059

>>3690157
She sounds like a hag

>> No.3709342

>>3697041
She is fluent in both languages, though!

>>3708408
"Pikairforce" was actually a suggestion by some fans and she rolled with it.

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>>3690403
the strongest

>> No.3709668

>>3698897
This, Hoshikawa will do well with the Coomer audience and the prostitute connoisseurs. But that is about it.

>> No.3709700

>>3691544
She acts that way on purpose. She's also not as dumb as she acts. That helps her "cute but quirky" persona. A lot of girls do this both virtual and even real girls.

>> No.3709761

>>3692573
She's also mentioned talking to the en girls off line all the time. There's no way she could carry on a conversation if what she's shown on stream was all she could do.

>> No.3709806

>>3708408
As an Air Force dude who's lived in Yakota, Guam and San Antonio, this is absolutely the only option. It's really, really really common for dudes to go out to Japan and find a wife in no time.

>> No.3709811

>>3691452
This. Luto, Iku and Aoi check all 3 of those boxes. Prism is the real underdog

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>>3690066

>> No.3709948

>>3709806
>big
>fit
>not totally autistic
>aimless
>can't join the military and go be a nuisance in a US military base on glorious Nippon
the one time I've wished to be a burger

>> No.3709951

>>3709811
I like them but are they really talented...?
If they were they'd be more popular.

Why hasn't anyone mentioned Mori yet? Her Japanese is conversational level and she's undoubtedly talented.

>> No.3710002

>>3691092
too soon dad,
the world isn't ready for her yet

>> No.3710361

>>3709948
Japan as an American is a nice time as long as you don't end up at Okinawa and have to deal with the curfew because the marines raped a native/some navy puke killed a family while drunk driving again. Sorry your country doesn't dable in modern-day imperialism anon :c

>> No.3710367

>>3709059
So?

>> No.3710567

>>3691988
>but maybe its true, you can regress in your native language
you can, i lived in england for 6 years speaking german maybe once a week with family on the phone. When i came back home i was still fluent but my vocabulary regressed to that of a 15 year old, only being able to express myself with basic words.

>> No.3710569

>>3691915
>depressed when shes top 3 most attractive holo roommates

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>>3709059
Even better

>> No.3714486

>>3709948
Anon, you can stay in Japan for up to 90 days, plus another 90 if you apply for an extension. If you can't find a cute japanese wife in half a year, are you really not autistic?

>> No.3714764

>>3714486
But anon, I live with my parents, which isn't such a big deal to japs, but I also only work part-time and am unqualified for any real career.
The military gig itself is a necessary element.

>> No.3714959

>>3710569
She's a japanese OL, of course she's gonna be depressed to some extent.

>> No.3715119

>>3691358
Here's my 2 rrats on this matter
the radical change was on purpose so both the girls and the viewers can let Monoe go

>> No.3715150

>>3709951
Yeah, a lot of people trash Mori's Japanese but her Japanese is better than Haachama's English.

>> No.3715506

>>3714764
Time for you to go gay for pay, for a shot at happiness in Japan, anon

>> No.3715743

>>3696824
The only things she's dominating are ojii-sans and NIJISANJI English Official Ch.

>> No.3716667

>>3715150
But people trash that too I don't see your point

>> No.3719823

>>3690029
chimkin is cute and talented and in no way capable of dominating the vtuber world. your conjecture holds no merit.

>> No.3720517

>>3693084
fluent by american standards*

>> No.3720777

>>3690235
You say that, but she also fails pretty simple english tests and has an obvious accent.

>> No.3721344

>>3709059
Another reason she would be massively successful

>> No.3721583

>>3709700
Nobody's good enough at pretending to be dumb to come up with and execute the Pepeloni monologue.

>> No.3723122

>>3715506
Become the modern Aniki.

>> No.3723164

>>3709059
Didn't she start working for cover in high school, same as Sora?

>> No.3723190

>>3690235
Recently Coco's english skills have gotten pretty shitty, a consequence of never really using them outside of short bursts on stream. She and Pikamee are pretty even at this point

>> No.3723457

>>3723164
she had her first (legal) beer on stream not long ago, and the drinking age in Japan is 20

>> No.3723836

>>3723457
>Getting worked by a manager of all people
ngmi

>> No.3724066

>>3723457
Yeah, I thought I remembered her getting wine for some celebration and then tweeting "Can't wait to drink this in a few months". (I assume she drank it before then but you know, gotta at least pretend to adhere to drinking laws publicly). That and, you know, her being Sora's friend back when Sora was 17. Would be weird if she was much older.
>>3723836
Not a manager. Said it herself during her outfit reveal IIRC.

>> No.3724197

>>3690403
the only japanese-english idol vtuber that could manage to get three Xs on this graph.
An achievement on its own.

>> No.3724217

>>3690029
I would add being able to collab with Japan and EN chuubas

>> No.3725393

>>3690029
>Ina
>Cute

lmao

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>>3725393

>> No.3725813

>>3690029
You're missing "loli design with fitting voice" and "great singer".

Gura is the only one with 4/5 and thats why she's dominating.

>> No.3733648

>>3691241
Anon what streams have you been watching? I'm pretty sure she translates like 80% of her speech on a normal day.
The only time she doesn't do this is on collabs.

>> No.3733798

>>3710569
God i need to see this

>> No.3734781

>>3719823
I understand that you like Kiara. Please understand that your opinion is in the heavy minority.

>> No.3736138

>>3692573
Haachama cannot speak fluent English. She is barely as conventional level and even then she has trouble understanding simple things sometimes. How fucking retarded are you?

>> No.3738318

>>3690089
who the fuck

>> No.3741849

>>3690029
Pikamee?

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>>3691629
>>3692145
vid related
https://youtu.be/vbTizG5bFmA

>> No.3760288

>>3690093
With entertainment, it's a mix of talent and skill.

>> No.3762094

>>3719823
I think this as well

>> No.3764141

>>3690355
How is it possible that this idiot can make laugh so fucking hard

>> No.3764164

>>3690795
Isnt that the source of her power?

>> No.3764223

>>3690403
retard can't even speak proper English

>> No.3764225

>>3691544
Oh she absolutely knows how to speak fluently
She just doesnt
I dont know why and im afraid to speculate but she just doesnt

>> No.3764276

>>3690066
>pikamee
Holy shit this anon thinks this retarded female persona resembles anything even comedically close to laughable, now thats hilarious

>> No.3764302

>>3690403
Cute and funny Godchama

>> No.3765475

>>3690256
Her speech is so slurred it makes you wonder if she's drunk or something. I don't even understand why she sounds like that, I don't think I have ever heard someone sound like that.

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