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This is a thread for the discussion of Nijisanji's English branch and their upcoming vtuber unit, LazuLight!

Teaser trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkZPFOI7OkU

Niji EN
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-JSeFfovhNsEhftt1WHMvg
Twitter: https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World

Elira Pendora
Debut stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQb5s3QXFGA
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeSUTOTkF9Hs7q3SGcO-Ow
Twitter: https://twitter.com/EliraPendora

Pomu Rainpuff
Debut stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Z1IQj3BIc
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP4nMSTdwU1KqYWu3UH5DHQ
Twitter: https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff

Finana Ryugu
Debut stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV1WFsRXksM
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu-J8uIXuLZh16gG-cT1naw
Twitter: https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu

Debut program ft. Hana Macchia & Bonnivier Pranaja from Niji ID: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC6yl3CyePA
Debut song "Diamond City Lights": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnP0cKNPE04

Previous thread: >>3691657

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>> No.3712698

Hololive reject? Hololive reject.

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Dragon a best. A BEST.

>> No.3712739

Does NijiEN has permission hell like holoEN does?
I mean they aren't j*panese, why should those idiotic copyright laws apply to them?

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>> No.3712838

Overalls are peak cuteness

>> No.3712842

It's basically the same for every Nijisanji branch, they just chose not to allow monetization on games they have not the rights on, so just no superchat allowed and they can stream it

>> No.3712867

Noor (IN) and Hana (ID) could stream Atlus games, albeit without monetization, so there's no reason to think EN wont be allowed.

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i'm smelling nigger

>> No.3712894

So no permission hell?
You are joking, right? Da fuck? Why doesn't Hololive do the same???

>> No.3712928

>Atlus games
I mean could they stream whatever they want?

>> No.3712943

Well Holo choose the path of "muh superchat" versus Niji choosing the path of "muh merch"

>> No.3712951

>Idol group
I hate Japan.

>> No.3713028

I can't wait for a couple of days after their debut only so that they can start streaming and there can actually be on-topic discussion here

>> No.3713061

>debut time: we hate the european audience
Dropped, doxxed, submitted fraudulent reports to Youtube, and will spread rrats against.

>> No.3713097

Stop crying faggot, I already set my alarm up.

>> No.3713123

Predictions on what the official yuri ship of this group is going to be?
I'm thinking the fish and the fairy

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>> No.3713136

Don't think so. It's all really dependent on a lot of factors. Some companies will say in their rules it's fine to play for people attached to companies as long as they don't monetize it. In that case if you want superchat you're going to need to get a special agreement or you can just play it with it turned off without one. Some other game companies have their rules so that anyone attached to a company can't play their games even with monetization off. In those cases you'll always need "permissions" even to play without superchat.

>> No.3713138

Don't think there would be any. They don't have to make it inside their batch if at all.

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>> No.3713148

It's not THAT terrible of a time, especially considering that debutes will be on sunday.
I hope that at least one of them will focus on EU timezone.

>> No.3713182

It's 4-5am for EU, how is that not an absolute retarded time for them?

>> No.3713188

Just wake up early bro

>> No.3713212

>English speaking Nijis
>Supposed to attract the Eigo audience
>Instead, have them in a group that largely caters to Nip autism
I don't mind idorus, but when you try to apply that Nip-centric subculture to a group that's supposed to attract a demographic that barely relates to said subculture, then I don't see how that's gonna go well.

>> No.3713264

that's what you get for being a wagecuck.

>> No.3713266

But it works. HoloEN's audience is full of western idolfags.

>> No.3713279

most people don't work at 4am, you can wake up early and watch it live. 10am-noon would be the shittiest time for most people I know

>> No.3713280

3-baka is not an idol unit

>> No.3713286

If it's within their wave then it's definitely between dragon and fairy as they were close beforehand.

>> No.3713298

>HoloEN's audience is full of western idolfags.
Unless you're referring to this place, then I doubt HoloEN's fanbase can be considered strictly "idolfags".

>> No.3713313

They will stream non stop after the debut to ride on the hype train

>> No.3713332

If making music together and being a group of girls is enough to be considered idols then they fit the bill. Which is obviously retarded.

>> No.3713346

>western idolfags.
It is basically twitch simps

>> No.3713349

I'm not smart enough to make bots,but i do have plenty of device lying around to spam the stream with hololive reject,wish me luck guys

>> No.3713376

I'm not gonna wake up in the middle of the night to watch short debuts for girls I might not even like and are not going to be indicative of their actual personalities

>> No.3713395

EOPs very much like anime girls playing videogames, making silly cute sounds, singing songs, doing zatsudan and collabing within tight-knit groups. You could argue that Hololive already took over the niche but saying that it's not pandering to Westerners is weird. That's the one vtuber formula that got popular overseas so far. They can always diversify the roster later.

Neither is LazuLight if you want to be autistic about definitions.

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>debut at 5am

>> No.3713458

Just move out of your dystopian shithole to the glorious AMERICA kek

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I am.

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>I'm not smart enough to make bots,but i do have plenty of device lying around to spam the stream with hololive reject,wish me luck guys

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>Debuts at 10:00 - 11:00 am

>> No.3713537

kek, wojakfag runs a bot or something

>> No.3713615


>> No.3713682

I honestly don't get the appeal of idols.
Why can't they just stream as they wish without pretending to be a beacon of the purest purity?

>> No.3713716

Europoor here. I will watch it if a randomly wake up in the middle of the night since i have erratic sleep patterns. And honestly I'm more interested in reading this board funposting live than anything else. I'll just watch the vod later in the morning at worst.

>> No.3713717

Did he post pizza here too?

>> No.3713723

Why are people assuming them to be idols?
I'll just wait and see.

>> No.3713754

Because then they would not be idols, anyways, they know what they signed for

>> No.3713787

>Idol-ish group name
>Official group MV right off the bat
I'm not surprised why people see them as such.

>> No.3713852

But Kiara's an idol...

>> No.3713871

Only 25 minutes for each debut huh.

>> No.3713879

Sounds more like something from a fantasy anime or jrpg to me than any idol group name I've heard.

>> No.3713935

We literally had an idol anime with almost the same name as their group name that aired almost a year ago.

>> No.3714006

Understandable. It's morning to noon for SEAfags and night but not too late for Amerifats so that seems to be the best timeslot for most people.

>> No.3714010

Could you be more specific?

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>> No.3714058

You have to be trolling.

>> No.3714112

Because you can find that sloppy shit pasted all over twitch. What makes companies like Nijisanji and Hololive unique is that their talents are encouraged to at least maintain a pretense of a professional and sanitary brand. It doesn't limit them from being vulgar (Coco's pube shaving streams), lewd (the multitude of ASMR or bath twitcasting) or outright shitposty (Tsukino Mito's kigu stuff) so it's not limiting in any way that should trigger your weird little autism. It just helps provide structure and standards that help talents rise above the trash you can find on twitch or chaturbate, which especially helps when your talents are irony-poisoned 20-something doomers that would otherwise build their entire public image around spongebob memes and body humour because they have no social skills.

>> No.3714149

But you can do all of that WITHOUT selling yourself as an idol.

>> No.3714158

It does have a fantasy setting doesn't it? That's exactly what I mean when I said it sounds like something from a jrpg or fantasy anime. As opposed to the kinds of names actual idol groups have.

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I want to rape that mermaid dragon and if nijiniggers come around lurking I hope she or her mates reads/sees this. You here me ryugu? I want to rape you. I want to kidnap her and rape her for several weeks on end, force feeding her the eggs she lays so it's barely enough for her to live on. I will allow some eggs to pass and grow, become merdegenerates while I continue raping her. When a year, 4 months, 2 weeks, 5 hours, and 15 minutes pass from continuous rape and force feeding her eggs, I will drag her will broken body to the desert somewhere in the middle of fucking nowhere USA to dry out into a raisin. Then I will buy a boat and tie her sun dried corpse to the front for all to gaze at her face that's been frozen in mix of pleasure, pain, and hopelessness.

>> No.3714225

Hope she'll lowkey reference Monmusu and be the resident cuckquean.

>> No.3714264

The fish is at 20k.

>> No.3714268

nijisanji have way more connections than hololive & they havent pissed off cn (yet). so they can still play games like genshin impact. also, theyre not restricted by idol stuffs

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Well at least it's somewhat better than what holoEN has...

I am so fucking tired of Cover's bullshit. For me Gura's butchered new model was the last straw. Those faggots need to have some proper competition.
Hell, HoloMyth has Kiara and Ina in EU timeslot, which is literally worse than nothing, it's like an elaborate insult. If at least one of NijiEN girls will stream at good EU time, I will be all over her.

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Pomu is cuter than usual today!

>> No.3714323

Dragon is in EDT timezone apparently

>> No.3714333

Nijis will never piss off CN since they let their branch (Virtuareal) do their own thing at Bilibili

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>> No.3714347

>so they can still play games like genshin impact
Not just play but also get paid promotions from its devs

>> No.3714362

She doesn't look very smart

>> No.3714369

They make more money by acting like 'idol' though. And by idol I mean pandering to lonely men, keep the interaction with male as professional as possible or none at all, etc. You can pretend to be above that stuffs and don't even have membership like some Nijis but those people don't make that much money despite having high viewership.

>> No.3714397

That's why you don't belong here

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That's the best part.

>> No.3714465

>And by idol I mean pandering to lonely men,
Anon... That's not an idol, that's an opportunist...

>> No.3714481

Nobody does it on purpose, anon. It's just not easy keeping China happy when they have a tendency to invent things to be upset about. Coco's grand slight was showing a youtube viewer metrics page that happened to list Taiwan as one of the places her viewers stream from. It's only a matter of time until Nijisanji does something even less offensive that somehow offends them even more, and with recent CCP laws against vtubing the smart thing is to just prepare for the worst and not put too many eggs in the chinese basket until the current political climate changes.

>> No.3714504

You could also do this by not joining an angency that doesn't impose idol or idol-like standards on its talent. But what the heel do I know about common sense?

>> No.3714578

Seething seanigger pretending to be euro.

>> No.3714584

Anon, a couple of Nijis already showed Taiwan.
Nothing happened.
I think it's more of a problem with the fanbase than simply from where you come from. From what I heard, CN is Hololive>Nijisanji when it comes to fanbases.

>> No.3714587

Those are the kinds of names idol groups have. It's part of the flare and theme. There's a large variety of them.

>> No.3714594

Anon, "idol" doesn't mean "no men allowed"
If you want succubi exploiting lonely men, you'll find that all over twitch. It's like 70% of their revenue at this point and there's nothing 'idol-like' about most of those women. Many of them even have public relationships they reference on stream. Their simps don't care. Clearly chasing the unicorns that have a fucking conniption fit if their oshi talks to a male isn't the optimal way to make money, and it's definitely not what companies like Hololive or Nijisanji are pandering to when they model their talents as idols.

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>Seething seanigger pretending to be euro.

>> No.3714622

CN schizos had vendetta against Coco for a while, you have no idea what you're talking about

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>still no Finana marshmallow
I swear I won't ask about your fetishes...

>> No.3714636

What do you guys think the debuts are gonna be at viewer wise? I'm thinking that between 5k and 10k, obviously numberfags are gonna laugh at those numbers but they would be a lot better than every other niji international debut

>> No.3714641

>Anon, a couple of Nijis already showed Taiwan.
>Nothing happened.
Yes, ESLbro, that was the point. The chinese are fickle and mentally unwell. Their ire is utterly arbitrary. When they decide to blow up, it'll come out of nowhere and be caused by something utterly asinine, but they'll be completely inconsolable.

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>> No.3714683

So these threads are going to be infested with ESLs for a while, aren't they?

>> No.3714686

I will

>> No.3714690

>they'll be completely inconsolable.
But Coco's chink raiders already calmed down though.

>> No.3714695

So can we agree that maid mint deserves hell for backstabbing her indie career saying it was due to health and then joining a company?

>> No.3714699

To this day I still can't find this dounjin

>> No.3714707

Uh oh stinky!

>> No.3714709

I'm actually quite hopeful that JP viewers might push it up to ~30k. They'd probably just be there for the hype and not for the talent though.

>> No.3714719

I don’t know much about Hololive, but did they enable superchats when they didn’t have permissions at all? I guess that spooked them so hard that they don’t want to do it.
Maybe it’s up to the talent, I remember Fubuki playing Clock Tower 2 - Struggle Within, and Human Entertainment has long been defunct with the IP being in limbo.

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>So can we agree that maid mint deserves hell for backstabbing her indie career saying it was due to health and then joining a company?

>> No.3714726

She announced graduation before she had her health test, do your reps

>> No.3714749

ESL here, by the kind of people I'm seeing here it must be the fabled ETL SEAtards

>> No.3714757

It's more like they were mad about Cover pandering to EN market more than them, the Taiwan shit is just an excuse

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>Hololive doesn't have a Fish
>Hololive doesn't have a Fairy
But Hololive has a Dragon...
Character overlap gonna be a big problem to NijiDragon

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>ESL here, by the kind of people I'm seeing here it must be the fabled ETL SEAtards

>> No.3714822

The Coco thing was an attempt at showing power, Hololive was always big into the Chinese market, they did exclusive bilibili streams and all the big clippers were zhangs, and then Coco debuted and they started getting more and more popular in the west and eventually EN debuted, and the chinks lost their status as the most important foreigners for Hololive. The Taiwan thing was just an excuse for them to get back at the vulgar American who caused that change, not because it actually offended them. Nijisanji doesn't have the status in China for anything like that to happen to them

>> No.3714836

>Hololive doesn't have a fish.
Gal Goomba...

>> No.3714847

One is a sun dragon and the other is a reddit dragon. I don't see the issue.

>> No.3714849

Yeah, I hope JPbros can help to trigger youtube algorithm into their favorite and make some noise here and there

>> No.3714850

dragon is old and rotten, sellout to r*ddit upboats and cringe memes, the chinese may have done a lot of damage on her but it was the company that neutered her

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>overalls into shorts
>obviously nonfunctional "wings" protruding downward from ass
>accessories include Power Glove, Dokuro-chan's bat, and dollar store keychain
>another fucking "oversized coat that's falling off to reveal shoulders" episode
one of the worst designs I've seen not gonna lie

>> No.3714862

The CN scene is VR >> any other v agency btw

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>So these threads are going to be infested with ESLs for a while, aren't they?
>When a couple of Europoor wojak posters were throwing a tantrum earlier

>> No.3714880

China has been trying to take over japan for years now so it isn't surprising they tried their hardest to weave into cover like every other company. Really wild when you see even artists sneak in ccp shit into pieces for the holos.

>> No.3714899

Sharks are not normal Fish

>> No.3714909

I really can't think of any relevant real idol groups with names like that.

>> No.3714910

Clock Tower is owned by Sunsoft

>> No.3714911

HoloEN had around 90k subs before debut and they had around 70k viewers on their debuts, so if anything, if they all are around 20k subs (SUSAN HATE) it would be around 15k (maybe less considering the competition).

>> No.3714912

oh, and I almost forgot
>having a cute animal sidekick instead of being the cute animal

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>>So these threads are going to be infested with ESLs for a while, aren't they?
>>When a couple of Europoor wojak posters were throwing a tantrum earlier

>> No.3714989

>Britain = Europe
Burger education at its finest

>> No.3715054

>Many of them even have public relationships they reference on stream.
That's not true at all, vast majority of them avoid mentioning their relationships on stream. If you think that Holos would get the same amount of SC if the first thing they did after debut was publicly announce they had a bf you're delusional.

>> No.3715069

Oh right. I forgot that Britain is also technically a US protectorate. My bad.

>> No.3715100


Knock yourself out, faggot.

>> No.3715188

I can imagine the reasoning over at Ichikara HQ went like this
>Hololive is super popular in the west
>Nijisanji is not as popular in the west
>Hololive is an idol company
>Nijisanji is not an idol company
>Let's make the EN branch an idol group then!

>> No.3715204

For reference, the lastest nijiJP girls have 20-30k subs before debut and 15-25k views in debut stream

>> No.3715213

Really have no idea what you're trying to show with this. Which are the relevant ones that sound like they belong in a fantasy anime setting?


>> No.3715254

knock my self out.

>> No.3715259

>3 girls
>not a single guy
Fuck this gay Earth.
I want my EN Yashiro...

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ETL is a retarded thing to call someone. "second language" is a term used to denote the way language was obtained, and differentiate from "first language" - the one you absorbed as a kid, something you can't do after a certain age. If you absorbed 2 languages this way you'd be native in both and they both would be your first languages.
ESL only has negative connotations because of ESL teaching programs in english speaking countries, "popular" mostly among poor imigrants from what I understand.
"EOP" is just a holdover from /jp/, where english and nip are the only languages that matter. If you want something to call retards I'd say use this.

>> No.3715279

You should have prayed to someone about that like the lulufag did about no males.

>> No.3715352

That's not about just showing Taiwan, it's about referencing to it as a separate country.

>> No.3715371

They will get 50k live views avg, screencap this

>> No.3715416

It's kind of hilarious given the conversations about purity and all of that around idols to see TWICE so high on a japanese ranking of popular idols given the way they dance.

>> No.3715436

I hope he's touching himself in glee, cause it's really a damn shame.
Here I thought Nijisanji would pull off the usual formula they do, but nah, they gave us an "EN idol fantasy-themed" group instead!
Like, where have I heard of that before...? Sounds really... familiar...

>> No.3715437

They would have been around that number if it weren't for youtube.

>> No.3715449

I don't see how it's relevant. JP had JP branch viewers. Someone who usually watches Lize didn't need to subscribe to Hisui to check out her debut. NijiEN doesn't have that supply of people who are interested in corporate event but not necesserily care about LazuLight.

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Does it?

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>> No.3715720

I can envision the chatroom being filled with Niji purists and warring the "CAME FROM ADS OF HOLO STREAMS LOLOLOL" crowd. It'll be glorious.

>> No.3715825

They're already teasing the next batch, so I think we'll have a decent amount of members by the end of the year, and unless Tazumi completely lost his mind, there's bound to be a couple guys in there somewhere.
>I hope he's touching himself in glee

>> No.3715931

It seems to me kind of like idol as a term has become kind of like anime, where the japanese themselves will use the term anime for almost anything animated but foreigners have a special definition for it that they will argue over.

>> No.3715932

Nah, just to use it as a benmark of how it works out for them, of course the non-idol fans in Japanese have a different mindset compares to box-pushing mindset of idol fan

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>> No.3716142

Yeah, fuck him.

>> No.3716154

What the tease?

>> No.3716162

The negative connotation for ESL mostly comes from interactions here on 4chan, where people that often learned english from osmosis on the internet shit up conversations with their atrocious english reading comprehension. "ESL" isn't an insult anywhere on the internet outside of 4chan, but here for whatever reason people with obviously poor english skills are also always unreasonably arrogant and stubborn, convinced their english skills are much better than they actually are, and usually harbouring some backwards 3rd world cultural conventions that are utterly alien to people with clean drinking water. They wouldn't be such a problem if it was just poor english skills, but those poor english skills become a calling card for their unique brand of idiocy.

The entire conversation about 'idols' running through this thread is purely some weird 3rd worlders that don't particularly understand the concept but think they've figured it out from context and are trying to argue about what they think it means.

>> No.3716169

I don't imagine the chatrooms ever not being typical EN spam, especially if they continue to only lean to the same few jokes

>> No.3716208

They were all supposed to be at around that if youtube didn't remove 10k+ subs of the other two.

>> No.3716292

Looking at who is replying to their tweets I'd guess there's going to be a large amount of hololive fans. I've seen a number of comments from people saying they were curious about Nijisanji before so it's great they've got an English group now too and stuff like that.

>> No.3716309

Don't worry, it'll only be the usual "Can you say "ara ara"?" "Do you support trans rights?", "*insert name here*, my dog died LET'S G-", "POG" type of comments anyway.

>> No.3716318

>The entire conversation about 'idols' running through this thread is purely some weird 3rd worlders that don't particularly understand the concept but think they've figured it out from context and are trying to argue about what they think it means.
That just describes holofags in general. They think they know everything about vtubers just from watching holos and a tiny selection of "honorary" holos outside the company like Uto, Lulu, etc.

>> No.3716366
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Look at the purplish blots on the buildings. There's three sprites which can't reasonably be anything but the next ENs.

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No, anon.

>> No.3716388

Nah, there will be group of schizos on here who hate niji and they will try to falseflagging hard , maybe they will try to spam shitty meme and then pretend as niji toxic fans then police the chat and overrun it with argument to turn off potential fan

>> No.3716394

I... think you're thinking too hard on this...

>> No.3716405

I concur, use ESL at your own discretion. Just don't call them ETL or I'll go insane.

>> No.3716514

It's an edit of this:

>> No.3716516

I sent Pomu a feed and seed marshmallow, don't say I didn't warn everyone.

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>> No.3716572

Anon i don't see shits,maybe I'm too blind idk

>> No.3716584

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined, thank you faggots

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Can I get a big sneed?

>> No.3716617

May be it's just their alt outfits in the MV

>> No.3716666

I mean, that's just the evolution of words and language

Take comics for example - printed pictures that tell a story: We use comics as a catch all, but to differentiate Japanese comics from Korean Comics, we use Manga and Manwha instead in the west, when Manga and Manwha just translate to Comics in Japan and Korean

We just call "Japanese Cartoons" Anime because it's easier and it naming as such makes sense in the Western World to differentiate it from American Cartoons

>> No.3716672

>Last chapter is 2014.
I want continuations but apparently Cis stop doing Touhou after being canceled for switching to Kancolle.

>> No.3716683

draw her having abortion

>> No.3716690

It's actually isekai and those are their real selves in the background.

>> No.3716745

>he doesn't like non-h.
Non-H 2hu is kino as fuck.

>> No.3716802
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can't wait for the lohengramm debut

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I didn't notice them at first either. Some other anons pointed them out and now I can't unsee them.
They're not full sprites. They're mostly just the torsos.
Here, for example, I see a Shiina-like schoolgirl in a cardigan. There's a ribbon on her neck and a bit off thigh sticking out from under her skirt in the bottom.

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What the fuck are you talking about you stupid niggers?

Let's talk about something that is ACTUALLY important.
Will Finana have webbed toes like pic related?

>> No.3716898

>Very long sleeves that go beyond the hands

>> No.3716928

Some say they're possibly sneak previews of the next Gen of EN assuming this Gen is a success

My rrat senses tells me these are the girl's managers and Nijisanji is trying to cash into the "managers as characters" dynamic

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>> No.3716971

Nah, somebody will post it outside of this shithole and I don't want normal people looking at abortion smut

>> No.3717018

Having the debut start on the main channel is still weird. Have they done something like that before?

>> No.3717026

>more managers than talents

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>> No.3717104


>> No.3717132

The collab after their debuts is on the main channel. It's all in the OP.

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your rrat is shit, it's probably their alt outfits
that jersey looks like something dragon would wear

>> No.3717162

How do things work at Nijisanji? Is there also a one month collab ban?

>> No.3717225

There is a ban on singing VtL for newbies though :^)

>> No.3717240

We're probably going to see more hints of those silhouettes in the debut MV, seeing how it's called "Diamond City Lights"

>> No.3717255

I recall something happening like that. Weren't some nijifans pissed because a newbie sang that song?

>> No.3717259

Not really, not for KR or ID for sure. The latest JPs didn't collab with others for quite a while but it wasn't a full month. I really remember any restrictions other than legal ones like copyrights and such.

>> No.3717292

Wait that long sleeve. Could it be Min-I mean Pomu's outfit?

>> No.3717294

From what I've seen from Niji livers
>female that got shipped with male
Get a burst of popularity when the ship is still fresh and popular. Lose it all when the locusts 'fans' get bored and leave. They also lose some original fans that don't like the ship. Male usually don't lose as much.
>female that keep it professional or not interacting with male at all
Have stable viewership, usually get more superchat.
Imo, having male is fine but they should be treated like Holostars so people can support their oshis with no worries.

>> No.3717339

debutmate collab wasn't banned but they will probadly encorage them to build up their fanbase first

>> No.3717371

Nijisanji's condition for getting the first alt outfit is to break 50K subs. Even if they're getting special treatment in that regard, alt outfits seem like a weird thing to tease in the key visual meant to present the first members of NijiEN.
I still believe it's the next batch. Nijisanji likes quantity, so I really don't think we'll have just LazuLight for long.

>> No.3717394

You should also consider that they're EN, anon.
Doubt they'll attract the JP audience in any way.

>> No.3717419

Yeah 3 seems like a weirdly small number after all the fanfare for their new EN department. I'd believe they had 6 lined up for 2 back-to-back rollouts. Probably this one will be more idol-focused and the following group will have a different focus.

>> No.3717459

>Doubt they'll attract the JP audience in any way.
Then you haven't been paying attention to twitter.

>> No.3717506

>the following group will have a different focus.
NijiEN Gamers

>> No.3717559

I meant in the long run. Chuubas always get attention when nearing/during debut.

>> No.3717568

After Gibara stalker incident the company as a whole doesn't want such things anymore and so they keep mixing genders right at debut and force mixed collabs in big events. Even Lulu got to collab with males

>> No.3717570

Yep. Basically, shortly after debuting, Chigusa was stoked to sing it with others, and decided to solo cover it. Some hardcore fans got pissed because VtL is sacred to them, like a national anthem.
It was much smaller of a yab than it was made out to be, though. The outcry was from a tiny subset of brand fans, and the other Niji livers got together to make fun of them in support of Chigusa, record their own joke versions etc. The whole thing fizzled out fast.

>> No.3717647

Reminds me when marine fans were upset that Kiara started singing Ahoy so early

>> No.3717653

Sorry I'm retarded, VtL?

>> No.3717658

my bad that you brain couldn't process it so I'll explain for you
the english THIRD language was just to say that even a retard spic with shit ass self taught english is still better than the one you are insulting

>> No.3717680


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I can't imagine being Pomu or Elira
>Spend years building your skills as a streamer
>Get through auditions competing against hundreds of other talented streamers
>Finally get your acceptance email
>Look forward to meeting your other genmates
>Find out you're now inexorably linked with Finana
>You have to pretend like you're best friends with her in all of your streams
This is going to go so well, I can feel it.

>> No.3717692

Honestly I've always thought a large part of it was probably just antis and falseflaggers looking for something to get upset over. Nobody watching the stream gave a fuck, everybody was spamming rainbows, and the dislikes only started rolling in after.

>> No.3717693

They say in this tweet the debut starts on the main channel.

>> No.3717735

It's Nijisanji they don't necessarily have to pretend to like each other all the time. If they don't like her in a few months when the new batches arrive you won't ever see them interacting. It has happened countless times.

>> No.3717738

I'm beginning to believe there's a group of people who are just want to start shit on both sides to watch the world burn

>> No.3717740

>the other Niji livers got together to make fun of them in support of Chigusa, record their own joke versions
holy based

>> No.3717757

Almost any time a yab happens, it starts off tiny but is amplified by a dedicated group of general vtuber antis. They're attracted to rrats and drama like flies to shit. The best thing anyone can do in such cases is to ignore the shitshow and continue to enjoy the content. The vtubers themselves know full well that life goes on and the anti campaigns will ultimately die down.

>> No.3717761

Why do so few people give a damn? Not even 1k likes...

>> No.3717763

Are you new to 炎上?

>> No.3717809

Guess I'm in the wrong. Would be interesting how it will go then.

>> No.3717819


>> No.3717838

There's this American vtuber group, Vshojo. That might be more your speed, I think.

>> No.3717857

It's barely noticeable. I only saw it because I was lurking the hashtag. Could probably go up to 2k+ if Elira retweeted it.

>> No.3718189

I'm still a little bummed they didn't go for the 1-2 male-female config. Those are some of the best units they've debuted. t, bluesfag


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>> No.3718228

I fucking hope so, these three apparently aren't too big on games from what anons have been saying

>> No.3718278
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For me, it's Meifu.

>> No.3718317
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SMC for me

>> No.3718334

Oof numbers, i'm not even gonna watch the streams,too embarrassing,still gonna shitposting here tho

>> No.3718335

Somehow it's always the males who are the cutest in these groups, while also being the group's tard wrangler.

>> No.3718407

just listened to the full debut song it was pretty decent if some amateur bits, but that's pretty normal

>> No.3718415

boy makes best girl

>> No.3718417

I'll just wait for suggestions from people here about which ones are the best.

>> No.3718450

Melissa has such a good singing voice it's unbelievable.

>> No.3718453

SMC is the group made me cameback to Vtuber

>> No.3718459

Kek the holo audience that got curious from the other days already forgot about them

>> No.3718516
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long bois

>> No.3718569

I'd watch out of morbid curiosity but those stream times are way too late so they can go fuck themselves

>> No.3718579

Only if the male is a shota.

>> No.3718699

Apparently the full song isn't out yet though, just a preview on JP spotify.

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>> No.3718864

What a succubus

>> No.3718909

>That's not an idol, that's an opportunist..
Pretty much summed up Rushia

>> No.3718941


>> No.3718970

Those hips don't lie.

>> No.3719065


>> No.3719088


>> No.3719128
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Sound nice

>> No.3719202

>not idols

>> No.3719227

>bad back
>good hips
How does he do it?

>> No.3719258

full on youtube music. the play button's invisible though. sounds much better than any over processed holoshit

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Go bait in the anti thread schizo

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Doesn't work for me.
I like it but the best part is probably after the fadeout.

>> No.3719343

>full on youtube music
>not available in your area
what did they mean by this?

>> No.3719365

i'm in aus so it's probaby released on 16th

>> No.3719396

Nervermind, it works on linemusic

>> No.3719492

The site under amazon has the longest preview I think, you can kinda hear the last third vocal.

This sounds way better than I expected from just the preview alone though.

>> No.3719494

So after their debut and the hype settles, are we going to keep having a separate thread for EN branch?

>> No.3719514

Not bad.

>> No.3719533


>> No.3719548

JP onlys and EN mix like oil and water

>> No.3719605

Fish voice is the weakest of three, if she can sing better then it would be 8/10 anisong

>> No.3719610


>> No.3719626

Not a bad song, but listening to JP-inspired idol music in English is giving me whiplash

>> No.3719725

I really don't like the beginning but the refrain is pretty good.

>> No.3719740
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Damn, this is nice.

>> No.3719777

melody is nice
the lyrics though are discordant and janky

>> No.3719807

yeah it would probably sound much better in japanese

>> No.3719841

farming all day kills your back

>> No.3719846

Might as well keep it separate but allow discussion about streams from the other branches during dead hours.

>> No.3719862

There will be japanese version, mark my words

>> No.3719916

The one in the iTunes preview before the chorus at the end is Elira right? Holy fuck, that is a nice voice.

>> No.3719942

Niji ID has a thread, so I don't see why EN shouldn't. It should be active enough even if there's only 3 of them.
But -because- there's only 3 of them, there'll be lots of dead hours, during which the thread will be either slow or dominated by shitposters and schizos. Hopefully the former.

>> No.3719999

I kind of thought she photoshopped herself into the cockpit of a gundam at first

>> No.3720016
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Her voice is pure SEX. My greatest investment yet.

>> No.3720041

That was actually great, the hell? I mean I guess I should have expected that from mafu, but the singers were good too. I find it being in English actually kinda charming. It threw me off at first but I got use to it.

Welp, people are definitely not gonna stop calling them idols after this.

>> No.3720042

Maybe there should be an EN + ID thread, IDs speak English most of the time anyway

>> No.3720076

>IDs speak English most of the time
They don't.

>> No.3720085

Why did they give the lyrics to Hoshikawa... This is like letting Haato do the lyrics for an English song

>> No.3720110

they do, watch the streams

>> No.3720112

All me.

>> No.3720117

It's either cause she's a known name or cause she just asked for it.

>> No.3720155

Yeah, the first two solo parts were dragon and elf, they know fish can't sing so she doesn't have a solo part

>> No.3720156

She didn't do the lyrics.

>> No.3720166

I thought only Hana and Radjiman spoke english

>> No.3720207

I like it

>> No.3720220

NijiEN managers are shit at picking out good designs

>> No.3720225

I'm not optmistic but I'm curious.
Just please don't be VShoujo-lite.

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Took me a couple of repeats to get used to an anison being sung in EN but it's good. Chorus is really nice.

>> No.3720242

More like she did the theme and setting of the song

>> No.3720247

The lyrics were some guy called Nelson Babin-Coy an American who works as a japanese singer songwriter.

>> No.3720299

The chorus part is actually good. The first pre-chorus seems sort of off though. Not gonna lie, on one hand some of the lyrics seem off probably because Hoshikawa wrote them, but I assume the song was written in English and it's refreshing to somehow hear a jpop song with full English lyrics and not with completely stilted lyrics. Hearing EN covers of JP songs are always weird because they try to hard to keep accurate translations vs making the lyrics sound good, and even the best translations still don't compare to composing the lyrics+song together.

>> No.3720313

I don't see the 2 more experienced streamers going in as hard on the sex jokes as Vshojo. Can't promise anything about innuendo and cursing, though.

>> No.3720327

atleast two girls are GFE type from what i have seen from their previous life, the other girl is a gamble

>> No.3720376

Pretty good for a debut song, also thank god there's lyrics in the bridge. The purpose of anisong style music is to showcase the voices, nobody gives a shit about generic j-pop bridge no. 7258169.

>> No.3720412

Like the melody, but I can't get what the fuck they are saying and the voices sound too low energy for the song.

>> No.3720426

because it's in enlish so there isn't any engrish rap in it lol

>> No.3720465


It was supposed to be bad!!!

What do we do now holobros?

>> No.3720483

How would this fucking debut gonna work, intervals is in 20 mins, what the fuck?

>> No.3720484

Any way that NijiEN won't seem like Dr Thunder compared to HoloEN's Dr Pepper?

>> No.3720493


>> No.3720500

ty anon, I enjoyed it. I'm sure it'll sound even better with the official release.

>> No.3720512

stop turning them into robots in songs.

>> No.3720546


>> No.3720558

steal mafumafu

>> No.3720569

20 minutes is fine. HoloEN really should have gone with shorter, more condensed debut streams, would have made them felt much less awkward and scuffed.

>> No.3720585

huh who leaked this?

>> No.3720602

It's already available in some countries on spotify

>> No.3720607

literally on youtube

>> No.3720631

They're here :)

>> No.3720635

I might've had an answer before I knew that it was gonna be just 3 idol-like girls.
Now I don't.

>> No.3720670

If you are interested in details they will have mellow reading streams later. There is literally no reason to have a debut be an hour long unless there is a karaoke section and their debut song release is a separate stream.

>> No.3720675

Are you listening to it in 720p? I can hear them pretty clearly.

Also yea some guy named nelson wrote the lyrics, you can actually find him on youtube. Also the lyrics are under the official music video. It's easy to see what the song is about, but I wonder if it'll relate to their lore considering hoshikawa came up with a story for it.

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What the fuck they're better than holoEN

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holy fuck this actually shits on holoen, top kek

>> No.3720711

>They're here :)
Fairy and green fish most likely are. Dunno about the dragon.

>> No.3720741

doomposters absolutely BTFO

>> No.3720751

I love HoloEN but man their first group song was mediocre.

>> No.3720752


>> No.3720767

Shut up! Hololive good! Nijisanji bad!

>> No.3720770

this doesn't sound like Mint

>> No.3720780

What did you fucking expect from cover?

>> No.3720782

>Holo EN are called talents by the management and doesn't want people to call Holomyth Gen 1
>Niji EN are idols

Bravo Japan

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>hoshikawa came up with the lore
crazy coincidence how these blondes are literally Gen 0 of their respective EN branches

>> No.3720791

>gura actually good at singing
>kiara passable at singing
>calli a rapper
>ina kind bad at singing
how could this be?

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>that voice
You are still holding Dragoncoin right bros?

>> No.3720829

Niji literally dabbing on Cover. They have better idols than the idol company lol.

>> No.3720837

How do you tell who's who?

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The thought of selling never even crossed my mind.

>> No.3720865

stop it with the tribalism niggers

>> No.3720866

Holding Diamonds (City Lights) to the moon (where they do their debut tonight in the mini-program before the individual debuts)

>> No.3720869

I'm retarded, which voice is who? Timestamps?

>> No.3720873

It's funny how the shitposters got BTFO once they showed off their stuff, feels good bros

>> No.3720877

NijiJP also has better singer than HoloJP despite they aren't idol company lol. ultimate owned

>> No.3720878

need drussy

>> No.3720882

Longer just runs the risk of getting crushed by the pressure. People forget how rough the HoloEN debuts were because of how successful they were afterwards. It hit Amelia the worst, and she took quite a while to recover, while not doing her justice at all.

>> No.3720901

The irony is that Niji probably tried the idol approach thinking that's what worked for Cover.

>> No.3720905

>i just hope both teams are having fun

>> No.3720908

I feel like nijisanji could actually pull it off better than cover if we have the english song to go by

>> No.3720915

you roomate rep anon

>> No.3720921

My hopes for the dragon have just gone even higher, please please I beg that she streams in EU friendly times

>> No.3720929

Kind of annoying and I don't even watch hololive. Can't people just praise nice things without having to out something else down at the same time.

>> No.3720932


>> No.3720975

They have a competent mixer so that's already a huge headstart.

>> No.3720978

If Ichikara were smart they'd make the song into an ad. Please Ichikara, please be smart enough to do this...

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Edit with NijiEN instead of AO when?

>> No.3720994

It's kind of a shame that people seem to have trashed the ones that obviously don't have singing experience so much that they get afraid to sing in public. Even Gura stumbles a bit even though her voice is great. Kind of defeats the purpose of karaoke when people are expecting a concert rather than someone just enjoying singing.

>> No.3720996

The first solo voice is dragon, second solo voice is fairy I think, fish is terrible at singing, she suck
t. voice fetish autismo

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The cathrisis factor of seeing most of the shitposters get BTFO is a sight to see. holding on to my NIJISANJIEN coins baby

>> No.3721061

you can sing like azki but if you behave like a zentreya you are not my oshi

>> No.3721078

too late, mafumafu is best buds with fuwa

>> No.3721094

watson knows she is bad at singing but does her best to improve and actually starts to have more fun with it and be less nervous

>> No.3721106

They used to stream whatever they want. And You know how that ended? Mio's channel suspended and like 80% of Hololive's streams privated.
Nijisanji also has to ask for perms since it's a company. They are just risking it with those streams without permissions or superchat.

>> No.3721110

>innuendo and cursing
I can't imagine why you would have a problem with cursing unless you are 12 years old. One of the dumbest things about HoloEN is the managers trying to stop them from saying "shit"

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>NijiEN released their original song
>release the Vsinger and her original song composed by DAOKO and lyrics by Kenshi Yonezu then pomp it
>get GEN 2 on the line

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>> No.3721278

Yeah, I just feel like she shouldn't feel bad about not being the best singer in the first place. Not that she shouldn't try to improve, it's great that she wants to.

>> No.3721281

wtf why do all of the good singers go to niji

>> No.3721306

didn't ask, still holding nijiencoin

>> No.3721314

I don't mind a bit of it, but to me too much makes someone seem kind of uneducated or dumb, lacking in class. In moderation and at appropriate times is fine though and sometimes even hilarious.

>> No.3721317

It depends. If it flows naturally I don't care but some chuubas try way too hard because they think it's funny. Trying way too hard is cringe regardless of purity or whatever.

>> No.3721346

cause cover ruin their talents' songs

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>call the usual guys

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Needs to be Pomu

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>the song is good?
>get our shitty mixer to fuck it up

>> No.3721396

Don't get too cocky now, they'll still make fun of your numbers

>> No.3721418
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NijiEN continuing the tradition of mogging Hololive in singing, nothing new: https://files.catbox.moe/62c4ww.webm

>> No.3721423

They're letting off steam after the endless shitposting that's been happening 24/7 since the debut announcement. Let us have this moment before it goes back to that after the debuts.

>> No.3721426

>wait he is still busy rigging gura´s model?
>does not matter he is good enough to do both over the weekend

>> No.3721427

You can have all the numbers in the world but if your staff can't mix for shit then you got something wrong going on there.

also decent riggers for fucks sake.

>> No.3721442

Why a predebut vtuber though? Surely there were better candidates that had experience right? Do they see something we don't?

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>> No.3721459

I remember seeing this shit live, hypest moment was rikiichis long note hold

>> No.3721466
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From the weakness of EN
Lulu save
from the lies of the antis
Lulu preserve us
from the rage of the lawyers
Lulu protect us
from the temptation of the other chubas
Lulu cleanse us
from the ravages of the rrats
Lulu shield us
from this rotting cage of loneliness
Lulu set us free

Luv me Lulu

>> No.3721475

No one in their right mind would think that NijiEN is going to match HoloEN in numbers for the next 6 months at least. It's not beyond reason, but Hololive has such a solid foothold that it's hard to imagine them slipping soon.

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always kino

>> No.3721483

better than expected desu desu

>> No.3721509

I mean they will never let men near there girls which is sad. Joe is amazing.

>> No.3721551

I wanna like these girls but can you fags stop being tribalist over which company your oshi works for? It literally does not matter.

>> No.3721564

Holoen's maneger is dumbshit, what else is new, they're still stuck in their own bubble

>> No.3721580

But its okay when holofags do it right?

>> No.3721593

No, retard.

>> No.3721616

When you have holofag shitposters trying to derail threads, they deserve to get shat on.

also cover can't get decent mixers and riggers to save their life

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>nijiniggers suddenly acting smug
Okay you win this time but this will be the last time.

>> No.3721646

You need to learn how to ignore bait and shitpost on 4chan to be honest

>> No.3721647

We can only imagine they were impressed by the audition. Some other vtubers have retired too, so maybe they wanted to pair one with less experience with the 2 more experienced ones to give her some cover, then have others debut later.

>> No.3721696

I would have said that holofags got double BTFO today between this and Kiara collabing with VShojo but it's very likely nijis will collab with VShojo too so...

>> No.3721700
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Holofags thrive in shitflinging. Why would you invite them? We are in a hostile territory as is.

>> No.3721706

You'll have you last laugh when you see the numbers that are about to come

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>cover is now copying nijisanjis gameshow
>got mogged by nijiEN's good english song compared to their meme country roads song
>guras live2D rigger was garbage
>covers music mixers are trash

and holofaggots still eat shit up because of numbers

>> No.3721721

I'm only familiar with one of them, can you elaborate?

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At least pick a better chuuba to tribalpost

>> No.3721793

Numbers are gonna be bad compared to holoEN, but that makes total sense since nijisanji is not as known in the west

>> No.3721798

You must be only watching Hana, Bon or Reza then. The rest it's indonesian>>>>>>>>>>>english>japanese

>> No.3721851

No one is trashing the actual talent, and insults towards Hololive about how they treat some of their talent are the same things that the fans of the vtubers are worried about. As far as stuff like protecting the talent too much goes, if Niji ends up giving the new girls too much freedom and they end up doing something that gets a lot of negative attention, the narrative surrounding that could change in a hurry.

>> No.3721889

Fish was still predebut. She had been in collabs but I don't think she even had her model/rigging done. The others had at least been vtubers for a little bit.

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it's all because of plebbit. those faggots are the biggest yes men on the planet they can't force a change. whatever shitflinging we do here is futile. the retarded rigger and shit audio mixers will stay as long as criticism is seen as "asssaulting people involved" by normalfags.

>> No.3722006

it's the reason why I only follow cali since she does all the mixing and stuff on her own, so shes better than whatever the fuck cover has atm

>> No.3722048

haha look it's a rhombus!

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It's okay fellow Holobros, we still have NEXT COLOR PLANET and RED HEART..

>> No.3722093

What the fuck, the song is good

>> No.3722096

the post that destroyed /hlg/

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>> No.3722142

It feels like a really good dubbed anime OP, which is to say pretty fucking good as far as Japanese-composed songs with English lyrics.

>> No.3722292

I saw this posted so many times I recognize it by the URL, but still click and listen. God-tier concert and song.

>> No.3722296

Man, they should have released Diamond City Lights before the debuts. The full song convinced me there's a lot of talent and production value behind NijiEN.

>> No.3722300

NCP is pretty good too, no need to start a competition.

>> No.3722319

Jesus this is making me cackle.

>> No.3722336

who cares

>> No.3722425

Fuck me, the song would've made a much better ad than the announcement trailer with the shitty one-liners...

>> No.3722447

>how they treat some of their talent
You mean disbanded the whole IN gen?

>> No.3722460

Red heart is fucking great it is actually one of my most listened to songs
>does it have meaningful lyrics
>is chammers a great singer
not really
>do i get pumped and have a great fucking time listening to this cute retard sing in a broken accent
you bet your fucking ass i do

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>> No.3722469

what the hell, it's better than the song mafu made for fuwa.

>> No.3722493

Maybe they'll make it one after the debut and premiere.

>> No.3722506

At least shill a chorus preview on twitter. I'm assuming they want to premiere the song at the debut show but a snippet would do them some good before the debuts.

>> No.3722527

Yeah, I feel like they should release the song first to raise the hype train more to gain more eyes in the debut stream

>> No.3722637

The difference is that HoloEN is wildly successful, probably beyond what anyone at Cover would have expected. And yet they still treat them like was discussed above. With NijiIN and HoloCN, you can at least make the argument that those were business decisions, even if it really sucks for the streamers.

>> No.3722648

>Ame: They got better mixers it's not FAAAIIIIIR
>Gura: (in the mocking chat voice) "ueghhh it's so gewd"
>Ina: *silently mad*
>Kiara: Heart Challenger will still get more views so I dont care
>Mori: Yeah, like whatever dude...

>> No.3722667

Ichikara, if you're reading this, please shill and advertise the song as much as you can.

>> No.3722706

Joe is so based, holy shit.

>> No.3722780

Yeah, the song got "leaked."

>> No.3722788

>no EN sanbaka
Well, fuck. Guess I'll wait for the next batch.

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I could already tell the smug dragon had a great voice for singing

>> No.3723004

Oh nononono holobros, we got too cocky...

>> No.3723015

Why would you a zhang wannabe, a tranny that will die soon and a vtuber equivalent of Aya Hirano?

>> No.3723019

She's overdesigned to all hell but I absolutely love it.

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>> No.3723189

It's retarded in a cute way.

>> No.3723201

I got my life savings riding on her at this point. Great design, great rigging, great voice, coherent twitter output. Usually I end up rooting for the inevitable underdog, but I hope she'll make it big.

>> No.3723208

i can vouch for fish, she's really high quality. i can bet she'll be the ollie of this branch, hated by everybody on /vt/ but still very successful

>> No.3723291

who's Joe?

>> No.3723328

The clown who is main singer of this

>> No.3723353

Joe Kaa

>> No.3723358

Sometimes I wonder why nijisanji didn't open an English branch before hololive despite the latter having more EOP fans. You'd think that ichikara definitely had more than enough resources to do so instead of opening a branch at unexpected places

>> No.3723409

Steven Paul Jobs was an American business magnate, industrial designer, investor, and media proprietor. He was the chairman, chief executive officer (CEO), and co-founder of Apple Inc.

>> No.3723439

After they hired an actual menhera, they went into better safe than sorry mode, so new vtubers now take ages. It's been 9 months since the last time new JP nijis debuted and 6 months for ID.

>> No.3723478

Niji & Holo are opposites. Nijisanji has the resources and capability but they have no idea how to use them so they fall on their faces. Hololive knows how to pull ahead (bless you Yagoo you retard) but don't have the technology or money to do that so they also fall on their faces. If the two companies merged together, all would be kino.

>> No.3723506

so every vtuber or do you have anyone specific in mind?

>> No.3723546

Can they speak japanese?

>> No.3723604

Starts of ehhh but gets pretty good

>> No.3723610

Yeah, all three of them.

>> No.3723627

>NijiEN debuts with an honest to god idol song at the same time as HoloEN teases potential collabs with VShoujo.
i don't know what i expected, but it wasn't this

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>Dragon is best singer of 3
>Dragoncoin to the moon

Oh crap, is Mercoin screwed?

>> No.3723752

Ichikara is generally capable as far as vtuber companies go, but they become stunningly stupid when it comes to overseas expansion.
How the fuck they thought that KR, ID, and fucking IN branches are better investments than an EN branch is just beyond me.
They should've STARTED with EN, then went on to ES, and then MAYBE considered the ones they actually did.

>> No.3723802

I think it has a lot to do that Japanese companies feel more comfortable expanding to nearby overseas countries like ID, CN, IN, etc.

>> No.3723990

I unironically think it's good. It's clear though that Elira is the best of the three. I don't know anything about her, so I'm pretty surprised at her singing.

>> No.3724113

Dragon is the best singer of the 3 based on their past lives, dragoncoin keeps going up.

>> No.3724115

>Japan is in about the same time zone as Australia
That's close enough, right? Where's NijiAUS? I want vtubers I can call "cunts" and get nothing but a positive reaction.

>> No.3724158

help I can't stop looping it, this is the type of song that sounds better the more you listen to it.

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>> No.3724195

dragon/fairy have satisfying vocals and the melody is decent for the most part, but I can't see myself replaying this more than once. It's good for a first song though imo

>> No.3724203

Cover is backed by large advertising corp in Asia early in its life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GREE,_Inc.

>> No.3724275

Earworms are actually really good sub magnets, so it's pretty smart of them to create one for the debut.

>> No.3724318

I was wondering why this thread was so peaceful then I took a look at the catalog. Seems like keeping a main thread and a containment one will be a must.

>> No.3724342

this sound like shit to me and i thought they were singing in japanese half of the time because i couldnt understand what they were saying, but looking at these replies i guess is good in comparison with other vtubers? either way this sounds like an OP song for a generic low budget anime.

>> No.3724477

ok holofag, continue listening to country road to satisify your hate boner

>> No.3724508

dude, I gave legitimate criticism

>> No.3724524

Gonna go with a bit of a lengthy take here. The japanese entertainment industry is highly saturated and self-serving, they value domestic success above everything else. If you got wealthy and famous in the US (as a US citizen) but remained obscure in Brazil or India, you probably wouldn't lose much sleep over it. The japanese, especially in the entertainment sector, prioritize overseas markets in a similar fashion.

Ichikara was (is) laser-focused on domestic affairs, and probably didn't take HoloEN's success as an indicator of the west's viability as a market (or they just plain didn't even care). Now that they're finally trying, it seems like they're putting a lot of money behind NijiEN, but they're still probably going to run it the way they run things back at Japan. I think there's bound to be some weird future hijinks in terms of incompatibility between the japanese corporate culture and the western vtuber scene. Either way, Ichikara's focus on developing 3D content, especially once AR matures and becomes mainstream, could be the way forward for the entire vtuber industry.

Hololive got lucky numerous times in a row, generating heavy-hitting memes and hiring talent that really wanted to push western outreach in spite of the management's disinterest and hesitation. I don't think Cover themselves truly believed in HoloEN even at the eve of their debut, and the branch is pretty much all Coco's blood and sweat. Hololive has managed to commandeer Youtube's algorithm almost entirely to themselves, which has kept them relevant and dominant ever since, but they're a little too invested in the "livestreams with L2D characters" scheme, which really isn't much of a money generator, even with the Holos' wild success. They need to upgrade and expand their operations going forward.

>> No.3724531

People are happy with it since it shows they have a couple of great singers in the bunch. The song itself is kind of just whatever.

>> No.3724547

I just don't know if this is the kind of music the EN fans would enjoy. I see it as a song that might do well overseas but I don't think that is the target audience. At the very least it demonstrates their vocal talent a bit

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I really like Pomu's energetic cute singing.

>> No.3724554

Go back to English class, SEAnigger

>> No.3724594

it is a typical idol song, but their voices mostly sound nice, so it counts as a win.

>> No.3724600

Makes me wonder how well HoloEN would have done without YT algorithm, and likewise, whether or not NijiEN will get picked up by the algorithm in a same way (not necessarily to the same extent)

>> No.3724606

You can buy the song here, DRM free and lossless, from here:

>> No.3724626

fucking elf rp'ing as a fairy
if she isn't half the size of a thumb i ain't biting

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>> No.3724652

do nijinigs really?

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>> No.3724694

ITT: poorfags

>> No.3724818

nice try Tazumi

>> No.3725007

she can change her size according to her lore

>> No.3725047


As a buyfag, I'll actually buy this since I like the song. Fuck compressed audio and DRM. Just gotta make sure the store is legit.

>> No.3725124

Streamers themselves aren't really advertised by algorithm unless YT already knows your acccount watches vtubers. YT doesn't like addvertising streams in general. Clips are what's pushed to outsiders, and I'm sure you know how Niji clippers and clips do compared to their Holo counterparts. The song might do well and introduce at least some people.

>> No.3725202

The reason I posted it in the first place is because I've bought Moon! and some other self-published niji singles there.

You can see ototoy listed as one of the storefronts in the page linked when Moon! released

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>> No.3725396

Why do they only get 25 minutes each for their debut streams? The Sereine girls got 40 minutes.

>> No.3725432

who knows, maybe they want to keep it short and concise too avoid awkwardness

>> No.3725779

>too avoid awkwardness
Pre-recorded videos would do a better job at that

>> No.3725856

Huh, The song actually surprassed my expectations. It's actually pretty good after replayed it for a few times...

>> No.3725938

It's a real good repeat song. Also they're actually really good at harmonizing together. That's kinda what I worried the most about.

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