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37497823 No.37497823 [Reply] [Original]

what went wrong

>> No.37497859

>>37497823
Tempus and getting too comfortable

>> No.37497925

I hate to sound like a broken record and repeat what's been said a million times, but they did start to act differently around each other after the off-collab.

>> No.37497949

>>37497859
How the fuck does Tempus have to do with Myth's Unity? It been broken way before Council debut.

>> No.37497974

>>37497823
>Gura went from the dog of the group doing everything to keep Mana happy to putting her nuts on the table over 1 a week streams to dare mana to punish her
>Ame's 3D world never got comped by Cover
>Mori got more contracts from music scene
>Kiara got dumped by Reine
>Ina realized her fanbase will never allow her to collab with the boys so she opted to dodge everything alltogether

>> No.37498038

>>37497949
You don't pay much attention then if you think Tempus has nothing to do with ruining the unity. It's been clear for some time now that there's shit going on behind the scenes

>> No.37498080

>>37497949
More like it got ruined when Council debuted. Since Gura found actual friends

>> No.37498083

>>37497823
Mori's mask fell off.

>> No.37498114
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37498114

>>37497925
what the fuck happened on the off-collab?

>> No.37498184

The grind. They got tired of pretending.

>> No.37498231

>>37498114
Gura locked herself in her room for three days without food because mori's friends were over

>> No.37498304
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37498304

>>37498231
lol lmao even, afraid shed get doxxed to hell and back?

>> No.37498335

>>37498231
While Amelia and Kiara were busy sleeping together.

>> No.37498348

What was the last time they mention each other on stream especially Gura?

>> No.37498374

>>37497823
Gura is a stuck up bitch

>> No.37498397
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37498397

>>37498231

>> No.37498408

>>37497823
Unicorns ruined the friendship

>> No.37498474

>>37498304
He's lying, you dumb fuck.

>> No.37498503
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37498503

>>37498474

>> No.37498508

>>37497823
pink hair was a terrible human,
aka the party trash white bitch, who forces u to go along with her trashy views.
u know shit people like that. u don't stay friends with shit people like that.

>> No.37498606

>>37498508
Then why does everyone except Gura still talk to her?

>> No.37498638

>>37498474
Nope, it actually happened. Do your reps.

>> No.37498922

>>37498038
>You don't pay much attention then if you think Tempus has nothing to do with ruining the unity
You in a coma or something? Myth ain't the same after that off Collab.

>> No.37498938

>>37498038
proof next thread?

>> No.37499148

>>37498038
Whether it is disagreements with management, the sudden graduation of Sana, or the budget cuts with the EN branch there is something going on behind the scenes. I just don't think it has anything to do with Tempus.

>> No.37499255

>>37497823
so imagine plucking 5 random people together, all with different personalities, views, likes and dislikes and being told to act like a family. It works for streams for maybe the first year?
Then they meet, they think if you force them together they’ll be family but no it doesn’t work, and if you’re stuck in person with people it’s easier to see the parts you can’t bear with.

Management sees this and figures ok we know what we did wrong let’s find people who can actually get along with each other, and to make sure this happens we’ll hold them back awhile and then debut. Boom holostars en

TLDR: 5 randos can’t be good friends even when forced

>> No.37499384

>>37498638
>>37498503
No it didn't she slept for some hours, half a day at most, in a room while the party was going on, she didn't "locked herself in for 3 days". Are you jerking my chain or do you actually believe whatever bullshit you read here?

>> No.37499616

>>37499384
>Are you jerking my chain
that should be pretty obvious no?

>> No.37499740

>>37497823
Ame was the first to become lazy and everything went to hell after that.

>> No.37499776

>>37498114
Mori was tasked for renting an Airbnb for the whole crew, but that stupid bitch gave the keys to her no-good junkie sister who ruined the mood for everyone.

>> No.37500055

op mom didnt swallow

>> No.37500089

>>37500055

/thread

>> No.37500135

>>37497823
Ina, Ame, Gura, and Mori didn't really recognize the value of unity and let Myth fall apart instead of working to keep it together. Kiara recognized its value but she got burned out on organizing group collabs between a bunch of unreliable introverts across multiple timezones and murdering her sleep schedule in the process.

>> No.37500230

>>37498231
Gura needs to loosen up and hit the lean

>> No.37500375

>>37500230
This, but uniroincally. I think they would all benefit from it.

>> No.37500506

>>37499776
>that stupid bitch gave the keys to her no-good junkie sister
And when Mori saw her sister threw a degenerate party she dragged Gura to it instead of getting her a hotel room or another airbnb. I don't even like Gura but that's so stupid it's appalling.

>> No.37500562

>>37497823
>picks up 5 hobos who have nothing to do with each other from the streets
>"From now on, you all are best friends whether you like it or not."
Any retard with half a brain cell will know synthetic relationships will remain synthetic. The only ones who genuinely tried were Kiara and Mori.

>> No.37500577

>>37500506
I believe Mori had good intentions and was trying to get Gura to come out of her shell more, but yeah, she's a total retard who doesn't understand introverts at all.

>> No.37500598

>>37497925
I think it was more like they confirmed what they'd already thought of each other, with Kiara being way more than Ame and the girls could handle + the Mori Gura yab just soured everything further. SNOT is the only convincing EN clique where they actually like each other

>> No.37500647

>>37499255
more or less. theres just no chemistry. they had it much easier with holostars en, guys tend to get along better than women to begin with. you could randomly pick 4 dudes, throw them together and they would have a good chance of becoming thick as thieves within a month. thats rare with women.
a side note, i think part of the reason m/f collabs got spammed at the beginning of the temp debut was because the girls literally just wanted to hang out with someone new that they might actually get along with

>> No.37500723

>>37500506
>>37500577
Did you retards even watch the vod?
It's still up there on her channel. Even Mori was hiding from it and Gura wasn't forced to anything.

>> No.37500828

They’re just too different. Honestly both Mori and Gura seem to be unbearable to be around for very different reasons

>> No.37500868

>>37497823
Western women

>> No.37500973

>>37498231
>>37498374
>>37498606
>>37499776
>>37500230
Gee, I wonder why the most introverted, autistic, and biggest name in vtubing feels alienated from her genmates. It's a real brain-buster.

>> No.37500992

>>37500723
>Even Mori was hiding from it
Holy kek you're acting like the party was some kind of inescapable entity. Mori could have taken Gura and left at any time but instead she chose to stay, thought it was a good idea to fucking stream in that situation, and Gura had to lock herself in a room.

>> No.37501192

>>37500992
this. imo it was probably not an actual party and just some randos sitting on their phones but the fact alone there was a doxx risk at all is fucking inexcusable and mori's whore sister can pound sand

>> No.37501307

>>37497823

They were the first gen of the EN branch, so the people that applied were ones who didn't care and had the mentality that if they had to toss it away at a moments notice or if it wasn't successful they could.

- Mori was a nobody musician
- Kiara was a nobody idol
- Ina was an artist with maybe 2 notable drawings to her name
- Ame was a ~200CCV streamer
- Gura was the biggest of the group but has said she wanted the structure she knew the company would bring.

Lots of them have used their names here to boost roommate accounts, so they're still harboring those mentalities, ready to leave if they ever feel too inconvenienced.

They also hit a massive boost at a weird time for the world and see that boost as THEIR successes, not just happenstance.

I guarantee if they were Gen 2 instead of 1 or debuted around when Gen 2 did, they'd be on par with where Gen 2 currently is; none of them would be close to 1M, let alone where they all are now.

>> No.37501436

>>37500723
>mori hiding from a party in her own airbnb

>> No.37501506

>>37501307
>they'd be on par with where Gen 2 currently is
damn if only, we coulda had mori or kiara gone like sana LMAO

>> No.37501509

>>37501307
I think their relative stats would remain the same but not as insane. Like Gura would've plateaued to 2M instead of 4M for example. You can reframe it all you want but I have never seen a single human like Gura and she certainly carried the rest of them to a degree

>> No.37501573
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37501573

Me, the main protagonist of hololive

>> No.37501625

>>37497823
>Lean
>heart attack
>chicken voice
>lazy
>tommy hort

>> No.37501649

>>37501573
Funny anon, I require more comedy

>> No.37501753

>>37501625
4 of those are fine but don't joke about Inner, if she actually had something serious happen I would cry

>> No.37501811

>>37501753
It's divine punishment for how you takos shit up /vt/ for months

>> No.37501820
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>> No.37501926

>>37501753
Deserved for takis being redditfags

>> No.37501940
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37501940

>If only you knew how bad things really are.

>> No.37501951

>>37501811
give one example of takos shitting up even a fraction of the other fanbases

>> No.37501965

>>37501753
Don't worry she's fine

>> No.37501992

>>37500055
Bullshit. OP's mom sucks in semen like a bellmouth intake at a hydro dam.
Go peddle your lies elsewhere.

>> No.37502006

>>37497974
>>Kiara got dumped by Reine
lol
>Ina realized her fanbase will never allow her to collab with the boys so she opted to dodge everything alltogether
Literally did a project with StarsJP and Tempus before fucking off. Only spergout came from thread readers like you.

>> No.37502025

>>37501951
Go dig up old /hlgg/ threads more than enough proof of you fucks being uppity when Ina was streaming a lot but now that she's dying you play victim.

>> No.37502030

>>37497823
Me.
I was the guy at the party that tried to hit up Gura.
Had no idea it was her. She seemed really uncomfortable lol.

>> No.37502045

>>37497823
The T-posing isn't intentional, they fucked up the motion tracking. That's what went wrong.

>> No.37502121

Ina is dead but before leaving she was just as usual
Ame/Mori/Kiara are litteraly having a collab together this week and Kiara and Mori have been in each other chat for the last 2 weeks and Mori talked at length about how she talked with Kiara and Kiara motivated her. Ame and Kiara are buisness as usual, same as Mori and Ame. The only isolated one is Gura, the rest are closer than ever.

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37502260

>>37497974
>Ina realized her fanbase will never allow her to collab with the boys so she opted to dodge everything alltogether
Retard

>> No.37502353

>>37497925
Why do people say this shit, EN unity was a joke before the first EN offcollab

>> No.37502427

>Mori
Work addict, travelling a lot, cannot calm down.
>Ame
Slowly moving into management role.
>Gura
Angry with management, considering graduation.
>Kiara
Still going strong as the only idol of EN.
>Ina
Very pregnant.

>> No.37502481

>>37499255
The thing is that they don't even need to be more than coworkers, their job is to be entertaining while giving image of good atmosphere and avoiding drama, you can do this shit with people you barely know and don't personally care about

>> No.37502534

>>37499255
Oh my God.
It's reality TV.
I am a brainlet for not realizing this sooner.

>> No.37502553

>>37500506
Gee you know, Gura is an adult and could have asked Mori if they could go somewhere else, heck she could use the tons of cash that she gets on a monthly basis from her memberships to check-in at a hotel, if she does not want to argue with Mori

>> No.37502620

>>37501192
But Mori called it a rager...

>> No.37502643

>>37502553
She didn't want to risk Mori dwarf tossing her out of the window.

>> No.37502689

>>37502534
Once you realize that chuubas are realityTV, you will also quickly realize what /vt/ actually is.

>> No.37502708

>>37502553
What people don't consider is that Gura was probably traveling with her boyfriend and the whole party thing was probably just a minor annoyance.

>> No.37502710

>>37502260
>>37497974
plus she was the star of Bad End Night

>> No.37502723

>>37498397
>Last update over a year ago
WHAT HAPPENED TO RONNIE!?

>> No.37502732

>>37497823
management

>> No.37502744

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak3yWexAiCI

Literally just Sana's exit strategy Season 2

>> No.37502916

>>37502723
He started dating a girl for a while and then they broke up and he fell into a depression and just stopped updating all together.

>> No.37502939

>>37502025
>implying /hlgg/ means fuckall

>> No.37503449

>>37502744
>Sana exited her job like this
>Ina will exit her job like this
>I exited her job like this
WE ARE

>> No.37503735

>>37501192
>>37500992
>>37500973
>>37502553
I don't understand what's the big deal. It was just a party, with college kids.

Also, Gura has already been doxxed, long before this. if you didn't know.

>> No.37503743

>>37501307
>I guarantee if they were Gen 2 instead of 1 or debuted around when Gen 2 did, they'd be on par with where Gen 2 currently is; none of them would be close to 1M, let alone where they all are now.
Gura 100% still ends up where she is. She did it before Hololive and she'll do it again after.

>> No.37503783

>>37503735
Most vtubers are shut-ins who have trouble interacting with people in the real world.

>> No.37503790

>>37502916
Lmao, serves him right.

>> No.37503834

>>37503783
And? She wasn't forced to interact with anyone. She just slept on her room.

>> No.37504306

>>37503834
And what? I was just answering that anon's question.

>> No.37504490

>>37497823
Management

>> No.37504636

>>37498038
Myth was slowing down even before council debuted and their chemistry issues were starting to get apparent by then. Council then debuted which made myth not even care about maintaining optics for gen unity anymore.
Kiara mentioned before how she just got annoyed having to organize most collabs and always adjusting for the other girls that she just stopped, Mori would rather play with her eceleb friends, Gura preferred the council girls, Ina and Ame were just autists and drifted away from everyone else.

>> No.37504718

Ina's leaving mid next year. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. The fact that Kiara blabbed that something bad was happening but she would not be able to talk about it until next year is a giveaway.

>> No.37504762

>>37497823
Success breeds complacency

>> No.37504861

>>37502723
>>37502916
>>37503790

He got into a relationship, stopped updating Whomp and has been updating his Space Comic he actually makes money off of for sometime now.

>> No.37504896

>>37497974
>Mori got more contracts in the music scene

Under Calliope. Holo is the only reason that talentless brony-tier rapper has any relevance outside of a cringe compilation.

>> No.37504935

>>37502708
Yeah, we were gonna try for a baby that trip too. Mori really fucked things up for us.

>> No.37505090

>>37497823
Kiara is too much for the average person.
Mori is autistic/has no empathy.
The same with Ame, but she at least tries.

The only one that can tie them all together is Gura (thanks to her supreme social skills), but she is rather with the 2nd gen/japan.

>> No.37506008

I've been thinking, how can Mori not get upset about her sister bringing all those strangers to show Gura off? How can the risks of doxxing not come to her mind? Because it has to have been Mori's plan all along, setting up her sister as the excuse. So after Mori snaps at her that she should get over it because she is an adult, Gura didn't go along with it and stayed alone in her room. As irresponsible people do, Mori convinces herself that she must be fine with it, and continues the party without her. Even making it extremely loud to spite her, causing them to get a complaint from the Airbnb, banning any further parties.

And that's how Mori hosts the end of the Journey of a Thousand Years. While there are a cumulative of reasons for their separation. It's at that point that Gura learns that Mori is selfish, apathetic, and just plain stupid. Knowing she will not last and to avoid her or be dragged down with her. The recent months are proving her right.

>> No.37507424

>>37506008
No she is just stupid.

>> No.37507995

>>37506008
You guys know more about their lifes than they do themselves

>> No.37508189

>>37506008
What is this incident you guys are talking about?

>> No.37508645

>>37497823
Mori never cared.
Ina doesn't care anymore.
Gura is afraid that the chumbuds will converge on her location for the biggest gangrape since Nanjing as soon as her address gets leaked.
Kiara is seething because Idol Corp is jewing her beloved Idol culture.
Amelia is pregnant with a black child.

>> No.37509587

>>37506008
>Mori is selfish, apathetic, and just plain stupid
Kiara learned this lesson and now Gura. I want to say Ame and Ina would learn it but honestly I don't think they care about her in the first place. Council probably aren't fully aware of Mori's problems except Fauna.

>> No.37509769

>>37508189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQF46f6e9NY

>> No.37509866

>>37497823
Gura, the rest still talk to each other

>> No.37509980

>>37497859
FPRFP
EVERY FUCKING TIME

>> No.37510440

>>37497823
One is dying because she overworks herself too much.
Two were taken away by Tempus penises
One is obnoxiously annoying to listen to
And the last one is a cunt with the worse fanbase of a vtubbing existence.

>> No.37510926

>>37497823
Nothing, it just turned out they were just co-workers bound together by being trailblazers in a new thing, rather than true friends. When Council dropped with new people cliques instantly started forming for this reason.

>> No.37510937

>>37501509
>I have never seen a single human like Gura and she certainly carried the rest of them to a degree
What's fucking wrong with chumbuds

>> No.37512114

>>37506008
>how can Mori not get upset about her sister bringing all those strangers to show Gura off?
Because she is a pushover and on top of Italian American and with those people family comes first.

>> No.37512668

>>37497823
no EN3

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