Fauna won

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Hi numberfag

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>>37946205
Zooweemama!

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>>37946205
Oh nonono

kronikek sisters are you ok????

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Why was Mumei's CCV so shit, even with tons of imposter buffs? I don't remember her dropping off in popularity.

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>>37946205
Unicorns win again

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>>37946331
Ever since she's collabed with Homostar JP

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>>37946245
>numberfag

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but at what cost...

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>>37946487
Yes. The day meidos make making ostentatious shitty numberfag threads outside of your containment thread bannable will infinitely improve this board.

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>>37946331
Apparently Selen's a debuff. Pomu also did Kiara's numbers no favors either. I don't mind niji/holo collabs but possibly the tribal schism is a real thing.

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>>37946205
>Kiara not being the lowest in EN
Today is a sad day

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>>37948675
You know she isn't the lowest for quite some time. Compared to holoEN in general she is one of those who had the less decline, almost stable.

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>>37946205
Mommy knows best.

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>>37946331
She pinned a note saying she had the sniffles, so I switched over to Fauna.

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>>37946331

Mumei doesn't really feel like she enjoys playing games. I think when you overlap fans, they are going to choose someone else. Also, people have bad taste--look at Kronii's numbers.

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>>37946331
Mumei normally gets screwed over by split POV collabs. Just look at SNOT Outlast and Phasmophobia, or Council Minecraft collabs.

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>>37949588
>Mumei doesn't really feel like she enjoys playing games
This. Mumei's stagnating because her content itself is stagnating. All she ever feels like doing are zatsus (which are her mumbling the same topics every time), doing her scribble drawings streams and karaoke.

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Saplings are quickly becoming the most obnoxious fanbase If they aren't already.

>>37949963
She doesn't have time to play or learn more games. That's why holocure and Rust were such a big buff for her.

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Guess people finally noticed she's the best EN

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>>37946205
this is unsurprising because my mommy is the best

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>>37950365

She gets paid a lot of money. An hour or two before streaming a new game is not a big ask.

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>>37946331
She legit got her normal numbers that she always get for the most part.

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>>37946331
Mumei had overlap, and they leaned toward other tubes

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>>37946205
the power of no males

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>>37946205
What's going on at the ID side of things though? Since when is Ollie Anya-tier and Zeta more popular than Moona?

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>>37946205
conveniently left out the juggernaut out that is MIO MAMA

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>>37948675
She was the lowest of Myth but never the lowest of EN.
Sana, Bae, IRyS are lower and even Mori nowadays.
The common point with all of them? They stream outside of NA primetime, in the case of Mori she streams at random time and no one can tell if she’s in JP or in the US and what her week will look like.

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>>37949588
>Also, people have bad taste--look at Kronii's numbers

You seem more upset that Kronii is still popular

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How did she get so popular? I thought after her debut yab she was finished

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>>37950929
Youtube put her stream upfront, at least for me it did. I had to look for the other streams to view them. Gut feeling that this might have something to do with it.

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>>37950847
You mean her minimum numbers, which is normal for when she streams earlier than usual. Even now she can get at least 2k more at her usual time.

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>>37946331
no matter how much owlkeks will try to deny it mumei is NOT unicorn-friendly and she's collabed with homos

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>saplings bragging about Fauna getting “high” numbers on her timeslot
embarrassing

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>>37950881
>Since when is Ollie Anya-tier
A long fucking time, possibly a whole year.
>and Zeta more popular than Moona
Beats me. Apparently Moon had a minor or not-so-minor yab semi-recently.

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>>37950908
Gura, Fauna & IRyS are the top three now. Ina was fourth before the tragedy, same goes for Kronii. Ame and Mori have be sub 5k for a while. Mumei was middle but now she is on par with Bae. Kiara has remained consistent, especially considering her time zone debuff. Kiara used to lead nicely in to Ina, followed by Fauna, Gura, and then IRyS. That was solid schedule, now it’s all fucked up. We don’t talk about Sana, I have no idea when she used to stream since I never watched her.

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>>37951038
No matter how much you try to force it, that was several months ago. Why wouldn’t it have affected her earlier?

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>>37950908
>even Mori nowadays
Not really, Mori's numbers are normally much higher than Kiara. The only time Mori really hit lower than her was when she played Live A Life which is a massive debuff game.

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>>37951090
Ame's was also a few months ago so why does it matter for her or Kronii?

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>>37951099
Excluding her recent collab with Kiara her views are shit. Her solo views have always been garbage.

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>>37951038
group collabed exactly once with holostarJP for Gartic Phone, and said nothing to them the entire time, just drawing gore instead

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>>37946205
>>37950929
Rather than her getting popular it’s more like the rest of EN has massively declined
Fauna still suffers from the same issues that make her a mediocre streamer, those being garbage ceiling and low subs gain

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>>37951065
Cope cuckbeat

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>>37950365
>Saplings are quickly becoming the most obnoxious fanbase If they aren't already.
It's been that way for a few months now. I imagine a lot of it is /#/ fags. But either way saplings are certainly not the same chill posters they were at the start of the year.

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>>37951090
>that was several months ago
Exactly! So either they're all whores because it happened or none of them are because it's an old thing.
Maybe one day you'll finally understand.

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>>37951185
Anon, Gartic Phone was in January, and she hasn’t indicated that she’s even interested in doing it again. Mumei’s had enough big streams in the meantime that it’s safe to assume that her current slump has nothing to do with male collabs.

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>>37951206
she was here, she agreed, she wasn't forced.
she wished to interact with males.
and you know the deal with her roommate.
cope harder.

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>>37951252
yeah after her debut "issues" almost nobody subscribed to her

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>>37951090
>that was several months ago
I didn't know there was a time limit on such things. Fascinating. And all this time I thought it was just something you made up to suit your narrative.

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>>37951291
I’m putting it in the same category as Miko and Subaru. Have Kronii or the others done anything indicating they won’t do male collabs again? If they go long enough, they can bounce back.

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>>37951328
>she was here, she agreed, she wasn't forced.
we don't really know the details, bae may have pushed her. she didn't seem comfortable there.

>she wished to interact with males.
funny because she apparently didn't show it, she avoided talking to them and just made incoherent noises the whole stream

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>>37951406
There’s a reason why no one calls Miko a whore for having done male collabs in the past, or how only homobeggars try to seriously bring up Subaru and Maimoto. Put enough distance, and it becomes irrelevant.

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>>37951283
If this is supposed to be Fauna’s “golden age” then those are just pathetic numbers
It’s sad that her ceiling is so bad, and I don’t even understand why

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>>37951328
If you kill your momentum it’s almost impossible to regain it. She did that at the worst possible time. Hololive got spooked because NijiFags were getting Council views so the rushed Tempiss collabs. They would be even higher since they didn’t have a Mori dragging them until recently, now Myth has 2, Mori and Ame, and Council only has a Kronii problem. Bae and Kiara never changed. Gura and Fauna are the top talent in their respective branches. Mumei had a chance but got pressured to go the Mori route while she was just getting started. With Ina gone both branches have Tempiss stains. Bae was always about Homostars so her fans don’t care, Mumei had a chance but got baited by crabs in a bucket operating out of spite. All they had to do was ride the hype from HoloFes, but they listened to Omegatroon because he wanted to be in Hololive so badly as evidenced by Council’s debut where he inserted himself for no reason.

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>>37951649
the golden age of quarantine is over

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>>37951649
To be completely fair, that Minecraft one was split POV, so you could potentially add about 7k from Mumei and Moona.

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>>37951649
That’s her most recent streams, that’s all. She has less subs that Mori, Ame, Kronii, and Mumei and mogs them consistently.

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>>37949588
You misspelled Fauna

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>>37951708
> With Ina gone both branches have 50% Tempiss stains

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>>37951708
>making shit up
Mumei didn’t “go the Mori route.” She did a collab, decided against doing it again, quietly memoryholed it, and had some of her best months afterwards.

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>>37951708
>Mumei had a chance
Mumei's doing fine. She took damage from that one Stars collab but it was long ago and she visibly wasn't into it. She hasn't touched Tempus at all. I consider her redeemed.

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>>37951754
>>37951785
And yet, when you compare Fauna’s numbers to Kronii and Mumei’s during their peaks it’s just sad
I’ll ask again, are these mediocre numbers the highest Fauna can go at her best?

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>>37946205
What did she win

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>>37951873
She went that route, once. It’s not incorrect it was just a bad decision. I don’t dislike her, I find it hilarious to hear she was standoffish, but I wouldn’t know because I don’t watch faggots play chuuni make believe, or any collab with the fat drunk wigger in it.

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>>37951902
Look for yourself, I don’t care enough to keep taking screenshots to spoonfeed you.
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/ceres

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>>37951902
says more about mumei and kronii than fauna

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>>37951916
More money and views than everybody else.
And we win another victory for the unicorns

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>>37950907
hag pussy is just a cheat code

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>>37952072
>views

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>>37952154
Funny thing, the same happened with Fauna and Mumei’s minecraft collab
Mumei ended up having more views than Fauna

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>>37952154
CCV views vs VOD views

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>>37951902
Anon, I’m not arguing against Fauna there, I’m pointing out that the sub-10k Minecraft is misleading.

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>>37952358
CCV views aren't accurate anyway

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>>37952573
if you view a video for 30 seconds it counts as a VOD view

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>>37946573
Generals are shit.

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>>37951931
Anon, “the Mori route” isn’t just one isolated stream, it’s something that happens over time. Don’t refer to things you know nothing about. Other than that, we seem to be on the same page.

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>>37952573
>>37952154
Tourists going in and out of Kronii's channel because she got Imposter vs Fauna only getting it during hide and seek while her views were largely consistent otherwise.

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>>37950929
Debut yab?

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>>37952595
That goes for all of them

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>>37952820
Same for CCV inaccuracies

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>>37952865
Not necessarily, some channels can be culled more than others

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>>37952992
explain how

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>>37953056
Not that anon, but one actually knows how it works. Some theories are that it’s viewers getting excluded from the count after being flagged for certain behaviors. If more of one girl’s audience is getting flagged, then she has more viewers that don’t show up in the live CCV count.

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>>37953405
I could also say if one girl's audience watches for a few minutes while another watches for hours, it shows up as the same VOD view.

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>>37953405
>one actually knows how it works
I know how it works. Whenever some jewtube employee gets butthurt at a content creator they apply a nerf to their viewcount. Vtubers are particularly hated by jewtube trannies so they get nerfed often.

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>>37953405(me)
Meant to say no one knows how it works.
>>37953481
Honestly, comparing the two is a bit pointless. Generally there’s more evidence of Susan fucking with the live CCV, but there’s no public method of seeing how long people are actually watching after the stream ends.

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>>37953669
That’s for the industry as a whole, I’m not sure how well it applies to the individual chuubas.

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>>37952649
Then let me rephrase it “she listened to Mori once, at a critical time and hindered her growth”. It’s the same result.

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>>37954171
Wasn't it Bae that roped her into it?

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>>37954575
That is literally fanfic and there is zero proof of it
It's more likely that they were both casually invited by ID and Mumei didn't like the experience so she never did it again

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>>37946205
>fauna red
>bae green
>numberfagging outside of /#/
shitty thread, delete and hang yourself

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>>37949963
Mumei's last karaoke stream wasn't bad desu.
She was roughly around 4k for this amogus stream, but consistently over 10k for the majority of her karaoke stream a few days ago.
People aren't flocking away from Mumei. Its just that the people who follow her aren't into games like amogus.

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>>37951090
I don't think people would bring it up as much if you didn't have Owls shittalking chum buds and takodachi constantly.
Glass houses and whatnot.

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>>37954171
Anon, Mori wasn’t involved at all, and Mumei had some of her best months afterwards. It did nothing to help or hinder her.
>>37954923
Mumei talked a lot about Bae helping her reach out to girls from other branches, so it’s easy to interpret that as a quid pro quo.
>>37955713
Some of the less schizo people in /#/ think she might be getting screwed over by the algorithm, so she’s getting fewer casuals and tourists than she used to. It’s similar to what >>37951021 said, but in reverse.

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>>37956280
Anon, just because you fantasize about fanbase wars doesn’t mean they actually exist.

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>council actually won
wtf

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Holoen in shambles jesus christ

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>>37946205
.

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>>37946331
>why is male Collab woman the least popular?
Go back?

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>>37958402
Anon, Kronii is second on that lineup.

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I love Fauna but CCVfags are the worst thing about this board. Baby Shark has the most views ever so I guess it's the best song to ever exist.

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>>37950907
Imagine giving a shit about the JPs

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>>37950922
Honestly, it's impressive with how popular Kronii still is even after everything she's done to sabotage herself.

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>gura stops streaming
>holoen cant break 10k
yikes

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>>37951487
I mean she went over to Astel's karaokes and interacted with him there. Isn't that a sign that she wanted to interact with them?

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>>37946205
Naturally

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>>37946331
>Fauna
no debuff
>Kronii
male debuff
>Mumei
male + niji debuffs
>kiara
niji + kiara debuffs
>bae
5000 male collabs giga debuff

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>>37961216
>kiara debuffs
Heh

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>>37961216
Mumei should stick with Fauna, she seems like a middle child that flourishes around certain people but shuts down around others. She is polite to a fault at times, so much so that people can’t even tell when she is being sarcastic. Then she is too embarrassed to explain, so they take it seriously. She avoids conflict so if asked to do something she won’t say no, hence that unfortunate collab.
Come home Mumei.

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>>37946331
She collabed with a male, I will never watch her. She's tainted.

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>>37951388
That's not even true, she has the best sub gain in HoloEN these days since sub growth across the vtubing scene fell off in general

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>>37963084
Basically anyone that’s asks her to do something is taking advantage of her. She is pacifistically disabled. I have a younger brother that is like this, he would get mad afterwords, yet still oblige because he thinks he has too. My sister would exploit this kindness, yet would have no problem saying no to him if he asked her for something. Now he has dumpy girlfriend exploiting him, it never ends. I used to fight his battles and handle confrontation because he couldn’t, otherwise he would just fold because it easier. He is also a pothead, which is probably related.

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>>37963614
>Inigger hasn't streamed in 50 days
>still gaining 10k subs a week
Takosharts deserve an actual holocaust.

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>>37946205
>all under 7k views
EN bros.. it's fucking over..

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>>37946205
As expected

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>>37963614
>11000
lmao that’s awful

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>>37946205
Best EN

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>>37946205
>Deserved
As a chumbud I always give priority to cumbud prime if possible.

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>>37946205
chumbuds and takos watching Fauna

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>>37951528
time is not the reason here anon

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>>37946331
She’s collabed with a faggot, she’s collabed with an Indog Zombiewhore. It’s over. Dropped. Easily.

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>>37950881
Moona almost said boyfriend on stream instead of “brother” and people noticed. Now of course that shouldn’t matter because Indogs don’t care about relationships or Male Collabs or whatever right? Lmao. Also she collabed with Tempiss and I myself will drop any whore who does any collab with Tempiss, moona incouded.

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>>37946205
>ollie
>783
Remember when she went super viral in the EN community? Funny how being a whore makes people leave

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>>37951708
Obsydia and Lazulight literally the only ones experiencing growth.

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>>37975693
She fell harder than any whore has so far. Probably on account of her being so fat.

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>>37977143
Doubt she weighs more than the braphog. Probably looks fatter being shorter, but the wigger is massive. Have you seen those tree trunks she calls shins? She looks like a brontosaurus in FUBU.

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More people watched Kronii's stream though. Also I guess this is definitive proof that any fanbase will start bragging and numberfagging when their oshi comes out on top. It's funny how similar you guys all are. It's very apparent when you go into generals and see how everybody speaks of their oshi the exact same way.

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>>37977382
The fatter she gets the bigger they get, just from having to support her mammoth frame. Remember when her leg broke under her weight from farting abruptly? Her shin split in half and the paramedics actually had to restrain her to prevent her from eating the marrow.

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>>37961216
Anon, if Mumei had a male collab debuff, it would have been shown by March or April at latest, and those were some of her best performing months. The Niji collab also hasn’t shown any effect on her compared to the weeks before. This is just what normally happens to her in split POV collabs and early streams.

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>>37974700
That Moona line is on the same level as Zeta saying romantic stuff reminded her of her family, so I don’t see how that would affect things between the two of them.

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>>37968609
this. Fauna is just their rebound

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>>37977465
Sick cope you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>37977790
Kronii has over 10k views on Fauna, more people watched Kronii.

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>>37946205
I knew mommy is the strongest

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I watched Faufau until I tapped out like 10m in. Not even she could save it

[Anonymous No.]

>>37978012
clocktard huffing on something else here

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>>37946205
>anya is about to overtake ollie in overall CCV
Lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>37952738
fallenshadow stuff

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>>37950929
She has been slowly inclining for a long time now, which was compounded by the fact that the rest of EN massively fell off by being lazy whores. I'd guess she also farmed a bunch of cumsharts due to Gura's ghosting arc #28271

>>37979932
fallenschizo was literally a sour grapes bitch who slandered her for absolutely no reason beyond perceived personal slights (while disingenuously pretending like she was keeping it private just because she didn't say her name outright), nobody took that shit seriously. If anything I'm surprised that jealous, psychotic bitch wasn't canceled.

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>>37978551
I don't watch holoEN. Sorry you don't comprehend numbers.

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>>37946205
Cucks won. Congratulations, theres more of you than there are men with big dicks.

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>>37978012
Cope faggot, no one gives a fuck about the Tempiss stained whores.

[Anonymous No.]

FEELS GOOD TO BE AN IDOLCHAD
CGDCT = JUSTICE
FUCK HOMOS, FUCK NIJIS, FUCK JEWS

[Anonymous No.]

>>37982947
Based

[Anonymous No.]

This has never happened before for HoloEN. The order of popularity was set in stone for a long time.
Gura > Mori > Ame > Ina > Kiara
Kronii > Mumei > Fauna > Baelz > Sana
But now Fauna has jumped to 1st in Council and Kiara is 2nd/3rd in Myth depending on if you still count Ina.

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>>37982789
Kronii got more views. I don't watch any holoEN members. Keep coping.

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>>37982947
Incredibly based. Keep fighting the good fight.

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>>37982789
>average ccv
>5k
It's fucking amazing how hard Tempus crashed Kronii's viewership. I used to see her with 8k to 10k ccv all the time before she fucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37982789
This one includes Gura and Mumei

[Anonymous No.]

600k sub runt now a 10ker

what went right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37983817
Tried to line it up a little better, in case that one was hard to read.

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>>37983078

>Gura>Ina>Ame=Mori>Kiara

Ina was getting 7-8k in 2022
Ame & Mori averaged 5-7k in 2022
Kiara has been getting 4-5k since debut
Mori hasn’t gotten more views than Ina since “Season 2 Mori” crashed and burned during the Lean incident.
That was only because of the Bone Bros buff, which was originally the AmeSame buff

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>>37984373
>Unicorn friends in the top 3
>Tempiss cocksleeves as the bottom 3
>fence-sitting Mumei in the middle
Actual poetry

[Anonymous No.]

>>37985107
Ina is the new #2 depending on if you still count her, and Kiara passed Mori/Ame simply by not declining.

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>>37983078
only people that have been watching EN since day 1 and paid attention would know just how popular Ina was in the beginning and how she could've been huge if she streamed more and did more interesting content. At one point, she was only 1k Twitter followers behind Gura, but she got overtaken by streaming the least and using Twitter less. Her and Watson were both averaging 30k viewers in their first few streams but Ame streamed at a better time, more frequently, and played better stream games. She had the 2nd highest subs too but Mori's music spam and Watson streaming way more during the height of their popularity put them past her.

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>>37982947

[Anonymous No.]

>4 hours before Mumei's usual streaming time
>uh why her number lower? must be because she was in a collab with stars JP a year ago
Ban all "numberfags"

[Anonymous No.]

>>37986112
I watched since day 1 and I know Ina had potential because she was actually decent at a lot of video games and therefore not frustrating to watch, along with having a chill voice good to put on in the background.
But potential doesn't do much, she wasn't the most clippable, she didn't do music or gfe or stream a lot, and now she unfortunately died.

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>>37946205
Does this really count as winning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37946205
Its going to take a lot more than that to say she is a winner

[Anonymous No.]

>>37986514
And you know that they’ll just tell you to cope when you point out the obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

so can this be /#/ when the old thread gets bumped off?