Popularity by region

[Anonymous No.]

>Vshojo
NA specifically US
>Nijisanji
East Asia with exception of Korea, mostly Japan and to some extent China
>Hololive
SEA and South America. Perhaps Korea as well

I dunno which one is more popular in Africa, EU, Middle East, and South Asia so I cannot comment on that.
So is my understanding correct?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
EU: hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
>>39703348
>EU
Only Phase Connect streams for them

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
>Nijisanji
>East Asia
>Japan
You wot mate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
No. You're a SEAfaggot that never read Hololive's leaked investor brochure.
North America accounts for at least a third of Hololive's audience and is the more popular in the US than in SEA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703418
…Anon, Idol Corp does too. As far as I know, IdolEN is the only vtuber gen other than Luxiem (*bleeuurrgh*) that has more than one European in the gen.
Also, I’m pretty sure Idol is actually trying to focus a lot more on Europe because after ditching streaming in Hebrew, the first gen girls’ main advantage is in being only one hour ahead of most of the EU.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
>nijisanji
>to some extent China
its their main audience you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703944
I only assume Vshojo is more popular in NA since that is where most Twitch audience is. And Vshojo is basically the most popular vtuber on Twitch. And I am talking most popular in each region, not which region has the most audience in each company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39704272
>I only assume
Yeah we figured when you put vshojo as more popular than hololive in NA

[Anonymous No.]

>>39704016
Kawaii has a brit and a dutch girl in their latest gen

[Anonymous No.]

>>39704272
>assume

[Anonymous No.]

>>39704750
Is it really false though? Most of the popular streamer and Youtuber that I know that has primarily NA audience seems to know a lot more about Vshojo than Hololive by virtue of industry connection. And since those streamer has a lot of audience, wouldn't it be correct to assume that more people in their audience knows more about Vshojo than Hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
Niji JP - More popular in JP than holo but not known outside JP even CN
Holo JP - #2 in JP but very popular around the world even in China
Niji EN - Popular in China and some Asia but less popularity than Holos and Vshojo in other part
Holo EN - Popular around the world but lacking in China
Holo ID - Popular in Indonesia. To some extend has brand recognition in JP and EN
Vshojo - Popular in US, KR and SEA because of twitch demographic

[Anonymous No.]

>>39704094
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>39705110
Wait twitch is popular in SEA? Why haven't I heard of it then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39704272
Hololive is more popular than vshojo in NA. Don't forget that Gura's first outfit reveal garnered 194k CCV alone back when vtubers were at the height of popularity. Vshojo's numbers aren't even bigger than the male NijiEN's. And while you probably think that most of those numbers come from SEA for some strange reason, they don't.
The majority of HololiveEN and NijiEN streams are at times that are incredibly inconvenient for SEA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39705223
Founder is from SEA

[Anonymous No.]

>>39705279
Ah you are talking about EN. My mind was geared towards JP side of things. If you are strictly talking about EN then I guess US has more audience than SEA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39705325
I didn't know that, I really need to do my Internet reps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39705040
Yes, pretty much everyone who knows of vshojo also knows of hololive, and you can literally go onto any western vtuber discussion platform and see the conversation dominated by hololive unless whoever is in charge takes specific steps to exclude them. It's really not rocket science

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
but the popularity of Nijisanji is in SEA and China

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
>and to some extent China
retard alert

[Anonymous No.]

>>39706022
oh look, the eop nigger who thinks nijisanji is only nijien

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703418
Panko my beloved, I wish she was in HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>39705279
>from SEA for some strange reason, they don't.
He said, posting at SEA hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
retard post, retard OP, kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
>vshojo
>more popular than hololive in any region

[Anonymous No.]

>>39708695
Why is there a blank square in the middle of the US? What does that mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39708695
Why does Wyoming hate Hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39708769
it's the least populated US state, so it's the most prone to google not having enough data to show results for the region.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39709024
No vtubers there, only cattle.

[Anonymous No.]

ironically, vshojo is more popular in japan than america, briefly overshadowing hololive when it was announced rushia and coco were joining them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39708695
>B-but (insert Vshojo member here) is the queen of vtubing in the west!
Alright, so should I not trust /vt/ anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39708695
people from Alaska don't have anything to do except watch vtubers kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>39709686

[Anonymous No.]

>>39708255
It's 11:00 PM on the East coast of the US right now, retard. These aren't SEA hours, and even if they were, how would that change what I said?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39709927
>1am in the west coast, 90% of all americans are asleep
>5am in europe
>noon in SEA
This is peak SEAposter hours, stop pretending to be american N'Guyen

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
twitch-kun doesn't seem to realize how small a world he lives in.
It's not 2021 anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39709919
and now lets throw nijisanji into the mix

[Anonymous No.]

>>39710460

[Anonymous No.]

>>39710051
>outs himself as a know-nothing ignorant fuck.
Literally 80% of all Americans live east of the Mississippi, you subhuman foreigner retard.
Besides, noon isn't peak hours for anyone, you smooth-brained newfaggot. Kill yourself before you post here again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39710460
>>39710518
Repeat this but use "Hololive" instead. No one searches for "Hololive Production", lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
NijiEN is popular in Korea though

[Anonymous No.]

>>39710051
It's 3 hours earlier on the West coast of America. And it's only approaching midnight on our east coast. In the contiguous 48 states anyway. Not exactly late.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39711185
umm nijibros?? your response??

[Anonymous No.]

>>39710460
Does this change if you use "ホロライブ” and "にじさんじ"?
They don't usually write in English, you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39704272
>Vshojo is basically the most popular vtuber on Twitch
In terms of numbers, no they are not. Vtubers from Isegye Idol perform better than them overall

[Anonymous No.]

>>39705729
Niji JP is legitimately big in Japan.

Niji's good streamers are there, so it makes sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39711444

[Anonymous No.]

>>39711697 (me)

I tried 5 years as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39711185
got everything aggregated

[Anonymous No.]

>>39711444
>>39711185

NTA but the selection made for Hololive Production and Nijisanji has additional meta data attached. Search term versus entertainment company.

Should be fair to use either, as seen in >>39711796

[Anonymous No.]

>>39711935
Topic and terms are measured differently

[Anonymous No.]

>>39711796
Interesting. Hololive Production vanishes in Japan but ホロライブ is still normally 60-70% of either Nijisanji or にじさんじ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39712212
hololive production and nijisanji are topics, so it doesn't matter what language you type it in, it's an aggregation of related searches in any language rather than just a single search term.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39711935
When using Nijisanji vs Hololive production then Niji looks like it's double that of hololive when if you use "ホロライブ” and "にじさんじ, they're much closer. This is extremely evident in >>39711796 and while comparing the results of >>39710460 and >>39711697

[Anonymous No.]

>>39712212
My bad. I should have said it would be fair to use either against the other, topic vs topic or search term vs search term.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39712240
Then why are the results different?
>>39712280

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
I wish South America liked nijisanji more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39712240
not really, when I join hololive+ホロライブ you get far better results.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39711793
What happened in December of 2021 for Holo to spike and massively overtake Niji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39712381
pic related

[Anonymous No.]

>>39712327
that's why it gives the warning about comparing topics and search terms, they get measured differently so making comparisons makes less sense. topics are generally better for tracking how popular something is in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39712449
Wow. Nijisanji having higher results recently versus a combined hololive & ホロライブ is very unexpected.

Holo EN needs to start streaming again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39712449
further experiment
Nijisanji+にじさんじ search term
vs
Nijisanji topic
Almost the same curve.
So if you want to compare hololive to Nijisanji topic, maybe you have to combine hololive search term from every language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39712642
forgot pic again

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
holobrowns...

[Anonymous No.]

>>39712605
Yeah it's almost like a wave was released at that time...

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
nijichinks

[Anonymous No.]

>>39712449

[Anonymous No.]

>>39713476
The 5 year chart indicates Nijisanji has been more searched for most of the last 7-9 months. That includes the post-debut-honeymoon reclines and at worst Niji stayed competitive..

That's crazy to me. I thought Holo was still dominating.

[Anonymous No.]

OP here
From the information discussed in this thread:
>Nijisanji
Japan and China
>Hololive
Rest of the world
>Vshojo
Not the most popular anywhere. Only seem the most popular because of aggressive shilling.

Is this the correct state of things?
My first assumption was made from the info I gleaned from /here/ and the stuff I heard from internet. But each camp seems to be very disingenuous about their popularity, which is why I made the thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39713721
those graphs are botted by chinks
80% of vtubers fans know hololive more than nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>39713721
niji japan vs holo whole world trend

[Anonymous No.]

>>39713959
are these bots hiding in your pantry right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>39713959
Based on this thread, you're right geographically except Niji wins out in Japan and China. Those two places contribute a huge % of the vtuber fanbase so it makes sense that it's comparable even if 90% of the global fanbase knows Hololive more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39714178
deflecting won't work nijichink
it's well known that nijisanji use bots all the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>39713887
It's debatable who wins Japan now between Niji and Holo.
China has it's own vtubers in bilibili who are now regularly beating Luxiem
Korea seems to have Isegye Idol who regularly beat vshojo on twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>39714772
so which countries vshojo dominate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39713887
>>Nijisanji
>Japan and China
Nijisanji doesn't really dominate China, China has their own vtubers on bilibili that mostly dominates the local scene, namely stuff like A-soul and Lex. Nijisanji has a presence there with luxiem but that's about it
Also
>>Nijisanji
>Japan
Is extremely debatable and most likely hasn't been true since 2020

[Anonymous No.]

>>39714772
I just think it's funny how 100% of the time anyone brings up Isegye at all it's to try and use it as bait to shit on VShojo not having the highest vtuber numbers on all of Twitch. Nevermind that Korean vtubers outside of Isegye are basically nonexistent. The market may as well not even exist outside of that small group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39715916
Yeah no shit do we even have any Koreans here?

[Anonymous No.]

a majority of vshojo are doing pretty good though
even the lowest vshojo does better then matsuri, roboco, sora, id, mori,whoever else is a low tier holo, the last two nijisanji branches and nijisanji id

[Anonymous No.]

>>39715798
>Nijisanji has a presence there with luxiem
>Not knowing about Virtuareal
Also
>most likely hasn't been true since 2020
Can you provide any evidence other than comicket?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39711264
If they are nijiKR wouldn't have had to shut down

[Anonymous No.]

>>39715916
They were asking who's popular in a certain region. Are you saying that Vshojo is more popular than Isegye in Korea? Do you have proof for that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
>nijisanji
>More popular in japan than holo
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHHHAHAAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>39704272
>>39703247
>no data to work with
>randomly start a numbers thread but without the numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>39708695
>>39709686
>>39709919
>>39710460
>>39710518
>>39711697
>>39711793
>>39711796
>>39712449
>>39712731
>>39713608
>>39714029
>Google Trends cope
I can't believe we have newfags that unironically use this metric

[Anonymous No.]

>>39716487
just look at the amount of sponsorships, collabs and merch holos are getting in Japan compared to nijis

[Anonymous No.]

>>39719404
I'm curious, but not autistic enough to do the numbers. I'll just let the others to correct me in the thread so I can get spoonfed.
I say it worked so far, but now I am getting mixed messages on which one is correct.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
>NA
Hololive
>Japan
Hololive
>China
Nijisanji
>SEA
Hololive
>Europe
Hololive

A couple of years ago Nijisanji would have taken Japan, but holoJP is currently more dominant than ever. I imagine Korea goes to that twitch group they have, but I don't really know anything about it so I didn't list it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703422
Seems accurate to me. Do a little more research before commenting from your bubble next time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39719848
>Seems accurate to me.
>commenting from your bubble
The irony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39719873
Hololive has a few very high number chuubas anon but it pales in comparison to the viewers from the sheer amount of Chuubas in Nijisanji. And yeah I watch both corpos, you should try it as well.

[Anonymous No.]

People saying that Niji is more popular than Holo in Japan still are in 2020

[Anonymous No.]

>>39705279
>Vshojo's numbers aren't even bigger than the male NijiEN's
god damn, there's not watching and then there's actually being a fucking out of touch fucking idiot lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>39719485
Funny you said that when Niji is now collabing with one of the biggest theme parks in Japan and one of japan's major transportation company
https://twitter.com/SSV__official/status/1607542998761627649
Also, at least get some solid number if you want to talk about "amount"

[Anonymous No.]

>>39716130
Yes this is correct. If your average is anywhere from 2 to 6k, then most of Vshojo is beating you. You're only beating Silvervale at that point who gets like 3k max.
Mouse, Nyanners, and Vei get 10k average. Well Vei gets more really but I hate to give her any credit. Mouse actually tends to get more as well depending on what she streams. But her lower number is closer to 10k while her really high stuff is 20k. Debuts I'm not counting because while those are obscenely high they're also not a normal stream.
We also have these metrics from earlier this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39720413
You do know that theme park almost went out of business?
And here is holo having multiple collabs with Fuji-Q
https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e6918.html
https://www.fujiq.jp/en/special/2022_hololive/index.html
https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/news/20210906-20210906-2/

[Anonymous No.]

>>39719848
>THIS IS WHAT NIJIFAGS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

[Anonymous No.]

>>39716130
you must be the same anon keep parroting this shit implying that Vshojo is at the same level as Holo and Niji, no they are not, Vshojo brand is niche pretty much twitch exclusive while real big company like Holo and Niji have wider reach, at most Vshojo only appear on otaku/weebs related events while Holo and Niji are everywhere with their collab and sponsor, doing better in "views" against some member doesn't mean shit, also some of the name you listed are regularly got collab sponsor and such, for sure they are doing way better than any Vshojo member unironically

[Anonymous No.]

>>39720413
Would be a shame if someone were to have a nipple catastrophe again costing them the sponsorship

[Anonymous No.]

>>39720829
>went out of business
And you do know Nngo literally saved the park from covid effect and even got mainstream media to cover that, right? The news about the collab is still trending on Twitter right now
Also, if you want to debate that, at least get some solid numbers. I can still name lots of collab and tie-up with big name this year like a collab with JILLSTUART
https://www.jillstuart-beauty.com/ja-jp/collaboration/0819_nijisanji/
or collab with J1 LEAGUE and get to be Abema's official supporter for the world cup
https://www.nijisanji.jp/news/sd7izms1aasd
https://twitter.com/fifawc_guide/status/1583018202036330497
Not to mention the numerous sponsors for big events like KZHCUP or Koshien.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39721793
As a "company" they're not. And that makes sense, it's why they rarely refer to themselves traditionally as a company or a corporation. They're a company in the most lose legal sense. However if you want to look at the individuals under the banner of the Vshojo name, a number of them are very popular and have very high viewcounts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
Nijisanji- China
Isegye- Korea
Hololive- Everywhere else

[Anonymous No.]

>>39720573
silvervale regularly gets around 5k viewers
nyanners on the other hand has reclined since the boyfriend mega-yab and only gets 5 - 7k viewers on an average stream
mouse tends to sit around 8 - 9k unless something special is happening (which to be fair happens often between the events, the big collabs, the singing, the IRL streams with connor etc)
melody (on twitch) and froot tend to get the lowest numbers around 2 - 3k, especially when the latter is just grinding apex, she can get to silvervale numbers when she does variety but most of her streams are grinding apex with some male pro players on discord

that's all for my autistic report

[Anonymous No.]

>>39722090
if it doesn't translate to the company then why bother to post it since it doesn't change the fact that Vshojo isn't anywhere on the same level as Holo and Niji because that's what this thread is about
also i wouldn't call having 1-3 member on par with mid tier holo in view anything "very popular" etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>39722707
>nyanners on the other hand has reclined since the boyfriend mega-yab and only gets 5 - 7k viewers on an average stream
Not sure if silverfan or just nyanhater, but this is hilarious. Nyanners is routinely the top 3 with mouse and vei. Please do your reps. Her lowest is 9k minimum.
Silver has not got "regularly" 5k viewers almost ever. She's lucky to get 5k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39722707
>>39723808

Nyanners had 11k just playing SSX tricky earlier this month bro.

>>39723169
Because Vshojo only has like 9 members. and half of them do numbers on par or better than the majority of Niji and Hololive. I do not mean Hololives top percent like Gura or Pekora, but the other 2 companies have a fatass roster who barely get 5k. Not that 3k isn't great as a streamer and easy to live off of, but if we're comparing numbers, you can still say one is better than the other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39712412
HoloEN heyday, most of nijiJP's big hits stopped stream for months

[Anonymous No.]

>>39719415
holoseethe, i still remember SC ranking was relevant until nijimales dominating the chart and you holobronies stopped talking about it kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>39705279
>>Vshojo's numbers aren't even bigger than the male NijiEN's
I want you to rethink that statement

[Anonymous No.]

>>39713887
Correct, Niji is more popular than holo in Japan, just look at how shitpost Kenmochi's stream beat the entire holo's song relay while there're still other niji's big stream still going on at that time

[Anonymous No.]

>>39724181
>Nyanners had 11k just playing SSX tricky earlier this month bro.
https://twitchtracker.com/nyanners/streams/41580336587

lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
>Vshojo
>popular

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>39725497
thank you for proving my point

[Anonymous No.]

>>39724181
what the fuck are you saying ? are you unironically retarded ? we are comparing companies popularity and some on par or better in views means jackshit as explained before, so no they are not doing better or at the same level as Holo and Niji, and what about they only have 9 member ? you're implying they would do better if they have more member ? lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>39720573
Obviously if you stream for weeks without end you'll be the most watched

[Anonymous No.]

>>39725573
Yes, /vt/ is like the only place that dislike them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39729943

[Anonymous No.]

>>39715916
Well, as a Korean, there are some indies outside of Isegye, and it's getting bigger and bigger slowly. And remember-before Isegye there were korean vtubers and viewers fod vtubers already-and Isegye has quite different fan range with other vtubers because half of their fandom is based on their boss's fandom:Woowakgood.
Famous ones outside the fandom there are Revolution heart(male vtuber group), Choki and Piyo from Vrecord(and Choki is one of the biggest female vtuber except Isegye in Korea), Fria(recently debuted female vtuber group), Greatmoonaroma(if you can consider him as vtuber; and also he's related to Isegye:he was one of the judge panels of Isegye idol audition, also old fan of Woowakgood). Not too many, but I don't think there are only Isegye who are actively streaming. I'll exclude V&U cuz they are not that famous in Korea-much famous outside of Korea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
accurate

[Anonymous No.]

>>39731157
I guess all the other places you go really max out the 12-15 year old coomer demographic, because that’s pretty much their whole fan base.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39733940
Interesting theory
Unrelated but lets take a look in the gura general

[Anonymous No.]

>>39703247
what about tempiss? do they share fanbase with luxiem?