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A thread for 潤羽るしあ, みけねこ and 飴宮なずな

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>> No.40995145
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>Mikeneko
Twitter: https://twitter.com/95rn16
Fanbox: https://mikenekoko.fanbox.cc/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC54JqsuIbMw_d1Ieb4hjKoQ
Twitcasting: https://twitcasting.tv/95rn16
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikeneko.x/
Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@minyan84
Nekoko Store: https://nekoko.shop/

>Nazuna Amemiya
Profile: https://www.vshojo.com/talent/nazuna
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5gs8EbpwbfQvrhizJx60TA
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna

>> No.40995169

>>40995123
Homobeggars won. We lost. The West ruins everything it touches.

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[Breaking News] Mikeneko showed her pussy on stream!

>> No.40995187

Traitor. Liar.

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Try not to entertain anti's, unmedicated and medicated schizo's. Thank you.

Much love to Mike-chan!

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The Rushibutt repeals thy schizophrenia.
Retardation not welcome in this thread.
Remember to ignore and report all falseflaggers.
>verification not fucking required

>> No.40995660

The truth is that she lied to the people she claims to love.

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>> No.40995717

What happened? I've heard kson ruined her reputation again.

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>> No.40996028

Has the queen of unicorns truly fallen?

>> No.40996091

All that crying about losing viewers.
All of that was a lie.

>> No.40996095

Despite everything, even after the totsu, I decided to believe on her. But this? I suppose I was the fool for believing her lies about loving us. No more. Traitorous cunt.

>> No.40996211

I want to be the next vtuber who save unicorn but I have a dick

I can't save you anon ...

>> No.40996340

I made a promise to die and it's better to keep it.
I just hope she knows how many people she's caused the death of. People who loved her and supported her for years.

>> No.40996402

>>40996340
do a flip

>> No.40996426

2 threads at the same time? Get your shit together, guys.

>> No.40996511

>sticking with her after she joined vshojo
You only have yourselves to blame.

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SEAnigs should go back to their Discord ratholes.

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Her elden ring VOD was so much fun

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>> No.40997155

>>40996889
This is true, and judging by the thumbnail, she wants to continue it.

>> No.40997184

>>40996866
Based, fuck bronies.

>> No.40997209

>knowingly and willingly collabs with males in you are path

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>>40996889
Agreed anon

>> No.40997268

>>40997155
She'll continue hurting her fans, too

>> No.40997360

>>40997268
It’s not “her fans”. It’s you. You are not special.

>> No.40997403

>>40996402
I will. I just think it was funny when she said that she didn't want her fans to leave her and then literally pushed them into suicide.
I'm sure at some point in the future, she'll beg her viewers to "believe her" again. And everybody will say they do. But there'll be nobody left who actually means it. Because there'll be nobody left who cares.

>> No.40997448

>>40997360
>"You"
I'm nowhere near the only one and if you paid attention you would know that.

>> No.40997486

Wow. Anti-kun is desperate for attention today. He is talking to himself

>> No.40997527

Antis shut the fuck up and leave no one is gonna miss you

>> No.40997544

She was always a liar. You just all ignored it and called it rrats and 信じている because you were in love.

>> No.40997576

>>40997448
(You) are a significant minority.

>> No.40997621

My wife loves me, and she never wants to hurt me even if she is dumb

>> No.40997646

>>40997486
>>40997527
自演乙
None of your garbage will change the fact that she hurt at least several of some of her oldest fans from her Fandead days.

>> No.40997682

>>40997360
He's one of few pre-Twitch fans left, so he's probably pretty special by now.
She managed to make her fan base a revolving door, 90% of the people watching her now are already newfags from vshojo/twitch as is

>> No.40997695

>>40997209
She was pressured into it you retard

>> No.40997727

>>40997695
Proof?

>> No.40997739

>>40997576
Oh, I apologize. I thought when she said she loved her fans, she meant she loved her fans, not the significant majority of her fans.
That makes everything alright, after all. Who cares if it's 50 fans as long as it's not 500, right?
What a cruel fucking joke.

>> No.40997743

>>40997682
You people really like talking about cope yet make a lot of it yourselves

>> No.40997755

>>40997695
She still did it. She'll do it again.

>> No.40997793

>>40997727
>>40997755
Fuck off already

>> No.40997814

>>40997727
>>40997755
Fuck off brony

>> No.40997815

>>40997682
You think those 7000 consistent viewers in her Mikeneko streams are vsj kiddies? Don't be dumb Anon. Her Twitch debut was a failure in comparison

>> No.40997827

>>40997739
She doesn’t love the people who add to her anxiety about losing fans over random shit. If even half the people here send to her what they say they send to her, I’d want them gone too. Her love has never been unconditional, your kind have just been trying really hard to find it’s limit.

>> No.40997842

>>40997793
>>40997814
no

>> No.40997846

>>40997793
>can't provide proof
>knows she'll do it again
>J-Just go away!

>> No.40997884

This is a time loop.
>I can't believe she'd hurt her fans
>MEN!!!
>I hate it
>Fuck off you tourist
>No
Top tier entertainment, though I feel sorry for you anons who genuinely try to treat this like the olden days.

>> No.40997912

>>40997827
Tell me who made her go out of her way to promise she would absolutely never ever, 0% chance, do a collab like this

>> No.40997924

>>40997842
>>40997846
You trolls don't matter outside of here

>> No.40997948

>>40997924
Then I'll just stay here

>> No.40997983

My condolences, lmao

>> No.40997991

>>40997924
And you don't matter to her. Otherwise she'd keep her promise, right?

>> No.40998001

test

>> No.40998027

>>40997924
>>40997948
>>40997991
I can't wait to see the next episode in this gripping saga. Will anon remind everyone about the promise? Will anon tell the other anon he doesn't matter? Will someone get called a tourist or a troll? Stay tuned.

>> No.40998029

I can't tell who's who in the thread anymore and I don't like the idea that being upset with her automatically makes people want to exhibit anti behavior...
even after everything I refuse to hurt her. I don't want to add more to her agony. I'm not in any bunkers and this is the only other place where I could interact with nekofami that loved her and I can't do that anymore and it just feels so lonely. I still love her and I'm still torn on the inside over the idea that she dumped us. I don't know what to do anymore

>> No.40998055

>>40997912
Maybe it’s the [members only twitcast content] from around new years where she said some things about these people, and then a little later when [sub account rant] happened? And then an unknowable number of people who continued to complain and complain and acted as though their opinion is the only one and threaten her? Maybe it’s those people who made her realize that they aren’t worth it and will never be happy?

>> No.40998082

>>40998029
Trying too hard

>> No.40998089

>>40998027
At this point, just assume that it's the same guy arguing with himself

>> No.40998131

I haven't been lied to once by a certain coyote that I picked up after Mike went to Twitch/vsj, which is the biggest mistake she's ever done. And now I feel like I did the right thing

>> No.40998395

Stop crying, you guys know nothing of real pain. You still have a long way to go before even thinking of kys
t. Kronie

>> No.40998398

>>40998131
Koyori really is everything Mikeneko should've been

>> No.40998443

She didn't even interact with them. What's the problem

>> No.40998469

>>40998443
She had multiple conversations with them

>> No.40998475

>>40997755
I mean kson got her into vshojo and it's the worst possible fit for a creator like her. Company that went from regular male collabs to actual dating and couples making fun of their unicorns on stream, only niji EN might be worse this days just by the sheer amount of shady dudes over there. It was a terrible idea from the start, bound to result in problems further down the line when so many vshitjo orbiters are male.

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Every thread

>> No.40998541

I love her, out relationship is something special, but you fucking autistic idiots should not attack her for every little thing she does.

>> No.40998566

>>40998475
It was just Kson's translator though, who also did work for Nazuna. It's literally staff

>> No.40998570

>>40998497
I’m just tubing out of here for the time being this is literally the most toxic place right now.

>> No.40998623

>>40998541
>attack her for every little thing she does
That's LITERALLY the entire purpose of this board aside from containment.

>> No.40998628

>>40998541
Lying is really special, all right...

>> No.40998655

She's never sending anyone the dinosaur

>> No.40998689

>>40996095
Lol what the fuck did she do this time?

>> No.40998709

>>40998655
She was never going to do it, that shit was ages ago and she never mentioned it again
same with the notes she was going to give her top 5 donators

>> No.40998765

>>40998541
>every little thing
It's the sole thing she promised and swore on

>> No.40998790

>>40998655
I will get the dinosaur and her hand in marriage.

>> No.40998805

>>40997646
Lol what the fuck did she do this time?

>> No.40998846

>>40998765
You fucking retards send her dm's to stop playing apex ffs

>> No.40998853

I'm still waiting for the August ASMR

>> No.40998889

>>40998846
Rightfully so. Apex streams are peak cringe

>> No.40998893

>>40998566
There were two males on the stream.

>> No.40998936

Not doing any ASMR where she hamuhamus your ears at all should've been the first warning sign

>> No.40998958

Mikeneko will never send her audience mizugi pics because she does not care about us like that

>> No.40998968

WHAT ARE YOU GUYS BITCHING ABOUT!!!!!

>> No.40998980

anyone in the bunker?

>> No.40999009

>>40998893
Yeah, the one that got ignored by her.

>> No.40999010

>>40998566
Taishi is not exactly stuff, he does regular vtubing stuff outside of translating afaik. Pretty sure the whole drama have more to do with that other dude and a slippery slope you know like what heppened with holo EN after homos were introduced.

>> No.40999039

what would the /るみな/ bunker look like?

>> No.40999122

how do I join

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>> No.40999124

This is the same girl that used to throw a tantrum when holostars were even remotely included in the same promo art as her for some event
And now we're here and she's even collabing with men

>> No.40999134

This is the result of 全肯定ing her the entire time. No-one is left except people who will blindly yes-man her.

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>> No.40999265

>>40999124
Vshojo is a demonic force that corrupts and warps every woman it comes into contact with. It the farthest and deepest layer of thottery in hell and no one should ever witness it with the naked eye. Light cannot escape it. The core members are women who if they were not in vtubing would be pornstars.

>> No.40999316

How about rather than timelooping again while we wait for her to actually say something, we post about our favorite moments from her?

>> No.40999362

>>40999316
>>40997072
sure, this was my favorite recent moment

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>> No.40999390

>>40999316
My favorite moment was when she lied and voluntarily decided to throw away a relationship of many years for reasons yet unknown

>> No.40999400

>>40999316
Are you guys mad because she collabed with a male? Is that what's wrong?

>> No.40999403

>>40999316
I liked when Mikeneko expressed 開放感 on her insta story

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SOON

>> No.40999428

The anti-unicorn taken to their logical conclusion justify 1 on 1 males collabs too. They just want to trap some folks along for the ride.

>> No.40999491

>>40999428
anti-unicorn arguments

>> No.40999501

Someone post the pic of mikeneko saying she made love to her bf for the first time, followed by Rushia saying she would never betray you

>> No.40999518

>>40999428
Of Mikeneko wants to get her tiny soft ankles pinned and have her guts busted out by her male partner after a stream with him then why shouldn't we support it? I would pay to hear that for sure. I bet we can make it happen.

>> No.40999535

Sorry Homobeggars, but no one cares that she interacted with a staff member

>> No.40999559

>>40999535
And the other guy?

>> No.40999580

>>40999501
The only vtubers who will never take a dick or swallow a cumshot are AI vtubers and even then it's only a matter of time before the technology advances where they can.

>> No.40999614

>>40999559
Literally me.

>> No.40999627

>>40999559
The gay dude?

>> No.40999632

Didn't she say she was bad and shy around men
it didn't look like that last collab

>> No.40999634

>>40999559
Believe it or not he got a slice of that angel Cunny.

>> No.40999645

>>40999559
Barely even interacted

>> No.40999667

>>40999535
terrible false flag. The irony is losing a ton of from fanbox and mikeneko is only thing that will possibly arrest this now. If it persists it is a lost cause.

>> No.40999688 [DELETED] 

>>40999645
He was clapping her cheeks wtf are you talking about?

>> No.40999703

>>40999580
We can bring Rushia back through the power of AI. In just a few years from now it'll be powerful and advanced enough to learn and take over her personality and entire demeanor so well based on learning all her past content that we'll have an eternal Rushia with us

>> No.40999748

Why do you have dicks rent free on your head?

>> No.40999749

can you sea zoomer discord fags fuck off now?

>> No.40999871

I demand ASMR as an apology

>> No.40999910

>>40999749
We all wish that, but bronies are too persistent. They'll fuck off eventually.

>> No.41000004

>>40999748
Is it really rent free when she's the one who forced it by putting herself in a male collab?

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>> No.41000345

>>40999749
First time in this general at these hours?
Pull a chair, order some food, it's like a back alley bar full of drunk beggars at this time of day. SEAnigger messages are no more noteworthy than a ditch beggar's vomit.

>> No.41000371

>>41000004
So assuming the worst case scenario where mikeneko actually got full on bred by the guy she collabed with and now she's pregnant, what's our next step?

>> No.41000402

Reminder
> 嘘をつく人間も約束も守れないひとは二、三度目くらいで関わらん方がええよ
What number time is this at this point

>> No.41000410

>>41000371
We keep supporting her, the only thing that matters is her happiness

>> No.41000434

>>41000410
kek

>> No.41000529

>>40999265
>vshojo
you do realise she's an adult woman that makes her own decisions, right?

>> No.41000562

>>41000529
is she an adult woman though? she definitely doesn't act like it

>> No.41000777

Does her Fanbox post make more sense if you consider it to be a reaction to a sudden drop in people subscribed to it after the male collab?

>> No.41000795

>>40999265
Talent freedom. No one forced her to become woke. She just found herself in this situation on her own will

>> No.41000889

>>40999645
He was still in the collab though, wasn't he. Collabing, as it were

>> No.41000937

>>40999009
still there.
And I don't tolerate Taishi being an active participant in her streams. That's still a male collab

>> No.41000977

>>40998846
You mean, APEX with men.

>> No.41001006

>>41000777
Did she got mad in the fanbox? I'm not subscribed.

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>> No.41001064

Also, just a reminder that the "Taishi is staff" argument (besides being retarded, might I add) can be used to justify her collabing with Nyanner's boyfriend who does a lot of work for VShojo
Nice argument, you fucking retards. Glad to see this is what her fanbase is made up of now, even here

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>> No.41001126

>>41000410
We should assist by slurping his cum out of her pussy, so she doesn't get pregnant unwillingly. Think she'll like us more if we cheer the guy on while he cums inside of her, too?

>> No.41001125

>>41001077
That's me

>> No.41001188

>>41000889
>>41000937
getting mad at her for being in a collab with a staff member and a who she didn't talk with because she wants to make more VTuber friends is unreasonable to me. I don't like it, but it will be impossible for her to connect with people. I don't want her to be lonely. I want her to have a friend group she can trust. She is alone because Vshitshow hasn't debuted any other JP members. What the fuck is she supposed to do? It's like taking your girlfriend to a houseparty and demanding that all men leave at once. She can't heal from her wounds if we don't give her space to reflect.

>> No.41001200

Will I finally stop seeing "look at my cute cat wife" in the catalog now?

>> No.41001237

>>41001188
She shouldn't connect to anyone involved with kson. She shouldn't even collab with kson or be in vshojo in the first place.

>> No.41001244

>>41001188
Could just join a collab with no men.
She's rejected collabs before, after all. And if Kson is refusing to not invite men, that's an issue they should sort out between themselves. That's not how a friend treats another friend's career

>> No.41001249

>>41001188
She talked with the who a lot

>> No.41001266

>>41000529
Company culture is a thing anon, Japanese people don't want to stick out. Nazuna might feel like male collabs are actually something okay, even expected from her now at least to some extent and if JP antis didn't jump on this drama they might actually see it in a similar way.

>> No.41001299

>>41001188
>a staff member
Taishi does a lot of other activities besides being staff, you fucking retard. He's only VShojo staff now because Kson joined
And by your logic, should we let her collab with Nyanner's boyfriend too? He does so much work for VShojo and he even knows JP to an N2 standard

>> No.41001338

I suggested we should be upset over her joining vshojo and all you fucks tried to spin it into a good thing back in July
If we DMed her to not join, like we did with the totsu, things would be better right now.

>> No.41001376

>>41001188
>I don't want her to be lonely.
The she should rely on us. We love her and she can be with only us forever and ever. No one else is needed. She can stream for us 16 hours a day and we'll support her financially so she never has to go outside. She can hire a female nurse (properly vetted by us of course) to check her vitals and pick up food so she doesn't need to leave the house. I love her and we can be there 24/7 all day. I'll quit my job and watch her streams all day if I have to. Thats what we need to do. She can be with us.

>> No.41001423

I legitimately hate everyone here actually justifying the collab
Keep up the good work and you might get more collabs like that very soon.

>> No.41001475

Also, just a reminder. I haven't seen a single Nekofami use the "he's staff" argument outside of this hellhole. They're just all now fine with male collabs of all kinds and will attack anyone opposing them

>> No.41001501

Her JP fans don't care anymore, most of her gachis left after she got terminated and the few that were left jumped ship after the totsu
Most of the fans here who swore up and down that they wouldn't accept a male collab are doing their best to cope into thinking it was ok and the fans asking her to not do it are treated as antis.

>> No.41001588

>>41001188
Why not just ask kson to introduce her to some of those smaller JP female vtubers she knows and mediate a girls collab, like people have suggested time and again? Why does some random guy NEED to be there? How is that unreasonable at all?

>> No.41001615

>>41001501
Is there any oshi in this world that loves her fans and is just as parasocial towards them as they are to her? Is that too much to ask? To have a vulnerable woman revolve her entire life and self esteem around us? Thats what we need.

>> No.41001622

She's GFE without the GF part of it. She's just an experience you've been dragged along into.

>> No.41001664

What is it with the hatred for the male sex that I'm seeing here. Rushia will collab with men because they make her more happy than you fags. That's just how it is.

>> No.41001669

>>41001588
because Kson is one of the biggest unityfags out there so the idea of excluding someone because of their gender probably doesn't even occur to her

>> No.41001670

You people disgust me.

You have never cared about Mike's thoughts, feelings and wishes. It's always about what YOU want. Your demands.

If you can't behave like a fan, disappear quietly. You're being a nuisance.

>> No.41001715

>>41001670
hard to care about someone who lied to me

>> No.41001716

I hope no one takes this shitty bait ^

>>41001244
It's unrealistic to expect everyone to bend over to her wishes when there is a large collab. It is what it is. She does her best to not talk to them. Taishi also took the hints and understood this. He kept it very surface-level
>>41001669
this. You should know leddit dragon by now

>> No.41001736

>>41001670
Fuck you. We're the real fans. We're the only men she needs in her life. All others can fuck off. Her mailman, her father, her brother, and any other male in her life. All she needs is us.

>> No.41001743

>>41001669
It's not even a matter of being exclusionary though. Mike asks her "Introduce me to some girls", Kson does that. Was she excluding someone based on their gender by not inviting any men to her new years party?

>> No.41001758

>>41001736
And who the fuck are you?

>> No.41001780

>>41001736
Could try to be less obvious with the bait, SEAnigger anti.

>> No.41001797

>>41001669
She worked in hololive i think she can grasp the concept.

>> No.41001808

>>41001758
I'm her husband she just doesn't know it yet.

>> No.41001827

>>41001743
that's just a problem with Mike, if she doesn't want to collab with males then I'm sure Kson can find some girls willing to try and become friends with her
She came from Hololive, she should know how some girls like to do things.

>> No.41001843

>>41001670
You first, nuisance

>> No.41001915

>people biting bait that barely reads in english
This is not るみな lol

>> No.41001953

>>41001843
Exactly. Fuck anyone that supports male collabs. Anyone who supports that should be forced to watch their girlfriend or wife be Penetrated and take an ejaculation. Then they should be forced to raise the child so they understand what it's like to see your oshi talk to a male on stream.

>> No.41002038

Why do we have /るみな/ anyway
Bring back the old thread for good times sake

>> No.41002048

>>41001827
When kson sets something up she's just going to set it up however she wants and isn't going veto people because they can't collab with mike on account of being male. Mike is the only person in kson's circle with that rule.

>> No.41002113

>>41001669
She wouldn't try shit like that while in hololive, not even before the yab when she had more leverage. Kson actually asked her audience for permission before doing some male collabs. It feels like she really changed after joining the V-bitches company and not for the better.

>> No.41002120

>>41002048
Doesn't that sound an awful lot like forcing one's own viewpoint on her? How do the JP nekofami feel about that??

>> No.41002153

>>41002048
I mean I don't really blame Kson for Nazuna joining the collab, she probably just sent her an invite just in case, hell she probably invites her all the time, it's on Nazuna for joining even though she knew males were also there.
I just think if Mike really wanted help with getting female friends then I don't think Kson would actually go out of her way to not help

>> No.41002181

>>41002120
JP is even more schizo and controlling than the western fans. Japan is the bona-fide land of incels and vtubers are literally the closet thing they'll ever get to a wife or girlfriend.

>> No.41002188

>>41002048
The "no men" rule is a thing that only exists in Hololive and even there they have plenty of people who have zero problems with men.

Mike is basically the only vtuber outside of Hololive who has ever even attempted to follow it.

It's obviously interfering with her collab chances.

>> No.41002224

mikeneko's probably laughing on a call with muramako about her buta fans getting upset

>> No.41002233

>>41002188
>It's obviously interfering with her collab chances.
Good. I don't want her collabing with men ever. Ever ever ever. Never at all. it's horrible. And she said she wouldn't. What the fuck is she thinking?

>> No.41002238

Why do you guys give a fuck if some woman who doesn't know you collabs with a male?

>> No.41002279

>>41002224
Get the status update, newfaggot
Muramako has called out her own shitty fans now for talking shit about Mike. She literally stopped talking on stream until her chat realised that shitting on Mike and her fans or making Rushia jokes wasn't ok

>> No.41002317

>>41002233
As always, it is all about what you want.

She was happy for a moment, making friends, cracking jokes with new people.

You just couldn't let her have that. You want her to be miserable like you forever.

>> No.41002329

>>41002279
sure she did

>> No.41002351

>>41002317
I don't want her to lie, is lying ok now?

>> No.41002352

>>41002317
She can be happy streaming with women.
Or do you hate women so much that you think it's impossible for all female collabs to be fun for her? Nice look

>> No.41002383

>>41002188
It's not hard to avoid male vtubers, especially in Japan when you have so many female chuubas to choose from anon I don't buy that, even some niji JP members don't really interact with dudes all that much.

>> No.41002393

>>41002329
Anon, people here stalk Muramako, you fucking gimp. Fucking retard. stupid fucking tard talking about things that you don't understand and pretending you do. Fuck you. Rrat spreading vermin. Single celled organism. The shit on the boot of society. Gouge out both of your eyes, pull out your tongue and drown yourself in acid

>> No.41002409

>>41002352
I want to watch Mike get her Cunny eaten out and cream filled by a male vtuber in an off collab. Is that too much to ask?

>> No.41002431

>>41002188
Even if that were true, which it isn't, there's 10x the female vtubers out there than male vtubers and plenty of vtubers who are fine with collabing with men still collab with woman way more often. And for crying out loud, kson is right goddamn there and she knows loads of female vtubers, it's really not hard at all to avoid male vtubers, you'd literally have to be trying to interact with them to run into them this often.

>> No.41002451

>>40995178
Cute pussy!

>> No.41002454

>>41002393
they would never fake a narrative to protect mike's poor decisions

>> No.41002473

I'm nearly more pissed off at you spineless fucking faggots than I am at her for collabing with men because you'll excuse fucking everything just to not be a "nuisance". You are actual scum. You'll never amount to anything in life because you have no fucking balls, no fucking will, no desires, no courage. Useless fucking twats. You are all so fucking terribly uselss.
If she starts collabing with men again, it'll all be your fucking fault and I hope you're proud of it.

>> No.41002515

>>41002431
>you'd literally have to be trying to interact with them to run into them this often.
Are you saying Mike is actively looking for men to collab with?

>> No.41002538

>>41002473
Lol go stop her from collabing with males then pussy. Or do you not have the willpower?

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>>41002409
>get her unny eaten out and cream filled by a male vtuber in an off collab. Is that too much to ask?
Yes. Instead, she will get eaten out by kson and filled with her cream.

>> No.41002549

>>41002515
Yes.

>> No.41002556

>>41002352
The problem isn't that she can't have female collabs but that there's no one to set it up for her. There's VShojo, and they have set some up, but the girls in VShojo don't speak Japanese. But beyond that there's kson, who doesn't give a fuck if males are included or not, and then there's herself, who doesn't really have the networking to set anything up. She doesn't even have a manager afaik.

>> No.41002557

>>41002515
I mean, she willingly went into a collab that she knew had men in it

>> No.41002568

>>40998029
At least keep posting here for a little while.
Usually a membership twitcast has something. I don't count on it, but...it may be at least worth waiting

>> No.41002569

>>41002549
Why?

>>41002557
That doesn't mean she joined it because of the men.

>> No.41002588

>>41002454
>https://twitter.com/muramako_2525/status/1604792166881980417
Here she is keeping her retarded fans in line.
You're stupid. Muramako's whole thing is being a "heel". It's a character. A role.
She's not a shitty person, she just plays it up for shits and giggles. That's why she moderates her behaviour when she steps over the line

>> No.41002598

>>41002569
Why don't you ask her?

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>> No.41002619

>>41002556
>Hey Kchan, do you know any girls that would like to play games with me?
>Oh sure! I know some girls.
wow so hard

>> No.41002635

>>41002598
I want to hear your thoughts. Go on, tell me why you think Mike is looking for men to collab with.

>> No.41002648

>>41002431
>>41002549
I couldn't begin to guess why, but you are coming up with worst-case scenarios on your own and choosing to believe them. Your anxiety is your own doing and you have no one to blame besides yourself.

>> No.41002646

>>40998055
You mean the rant that later went into a rant cast that turned into her apologizing at the end in her thanks message?

>> No.41002652

>>41002556
All she needs is a 10 minute conversation with Kson
I was told that Kson respects the content that her friends put out. Bringing men into a collab is a disrespect to her and us.

>> No.41002668

It doesn't matter what she says in a member twitcast. She'll just break her word the next month.

>> No.41002694

>>41002609
Taishi is super awkward but dog boy is kind of cute. I think he's taken though?

>> No.41002699

>>40998846
>Apex
Literally nobody here hates Apex
The problem was always kusoneko

>> No.41002701

>>40998055
You;ve been pushing this the entire time. I know you're wrong, you fucking scumbag.

>> No.41002734

>>41002619
Coordinating a bunch of people to all come online together and stream is actually tough.

>> No.41002751

>>41002699
I hate Apex. I have trauma

>> No.41002754

>>41002694
And he's a male so I dont want her to collab with Nazuna

>> No.41002758

>>41002734
Not so tough when there's a man involved in it though

>> No.41002785

>>40999535
>no one cares
lol

>> No.41002802

If I want to collab with Mike so what? I can collab with whoever I want even though I'm a male. Get over it.

>> No.41002800

You know, for once i wish she would come here and actually communicate with going through secrecy filters and being somewhat cryptic with what she means.
We don't deserve anything else at this point but i think we do deserve some clarity.
Come here, say clearly with no roundabouts what is your position (limit or not) on male collabs and for god's sake KEEP AT IT; or at the very least actually tell us in the future if you're changing it (again)
We won't get more hurt than now even if she's tell us she's doing male collabs every single day.
But promising firmly something and then change opinion on a random collab you joined spontaneously midway 3 weeks later and it's not even in your channel is kinda nuts.
But if she even address it it's going to be in a random-ass member twitcast at 2 am JST in the middle of 12 other chit-chat topics (that she deletes after and will admonish you for using later since it's member content)
and 4 cryptic tweets 3 days later on a twitter sub account while she's in a depressive phase and will delete 10 minutes later.

>> No.41002808

>>41002734
Doesn't have to be a big group.
Even a three or four person collab would work. And all girls.
Now youre just trying to figure out reasons why Kson has to invite men to collabs. Are you a nekofami or a fucking Ksongumi?

>> No.41002819

>>41002734
it doesn't have to be a massive collab, just ask Kson to introduce her to some girls and then they can arrange 1 on 1 collabs or group collabs later on
that's it

>> No.41002822

>>41002758
No. That does not logically follow the previous statement.

>> No.41002840

>>41000410
lmao.
the worst part is, tons of Japanese fans agree with this.

>> No.41002864

>>41002800
>come here
lol
lmao, even
how in the fuck do you think that would possibly go, other than terribly

>> No.41002865

>>41002840
Yeah, real fans know her happiness is secondary to ours.

>> No.41002878

Why am I expected to not cheat on her and keep loving her if she cheats on me and doesn't love me

>> No.41002885

>>41000410
is there anything wrong with that?

>> No.41002891

>>41000529
>she's an adult woman
She absolutely doesn't act like it
Also she even says she's easily manipulated

>> No.41002894

>>41002840
She already gets fucked off stream. Who cares if it's out in the open? The only difference is your illusions are shattered. If you think for 1 second she isn't taking dick off stream you're delusional and live in fantasy land.

>> No.41002895

>>41002840
yeah that's the point, JP fans are laughable
you can tell some of them are coping by how many mental gymnastics they're going through to make it not a big deal

>> No.41002935

>>41002878
The way you acting is very unlovable and expecting anyone to love you as you are currently is completely unreasonable

>> No.41002940

>>41001188
She didn't go to the all-girls house party Kson invited her to. Reconnect with old friends.
But she came right along here.

>> No.41002957

>>41002865
Is falseflagging so fun for you that you do it all thread, cretin?

>> No.41002959

>>41002822
Your statement was a pointless statement from the start. How is organizing a collab with only female vtubers involved "actually tough"? It happens all the time in every sphere of vtubing, even Vshojo itself has no issue doing that. What was the point of saying that other than to deflect?

>> No.41002977

Why do you act like you own her?

>> No.41002984

>>41002894
Yeah by my dick

>> No.41003001

>>41002959
Why do you think. He's in full COPE mode.
So many of the scumbags here are. I bet the faggot was too afraid to oppose the collab publicly

>> No.41003004

>>41002940
This is pretty disingenuous when she streamed for us both Christmas Eve and Christmas for us instead of attending.

>> No.41003005

>>41002957
You'd think that laughing at the very idea that Mike deserves happiness would be anti behavior or false flagging but apparently it's the opinion of her so called "real fans" here

>> No.41003040

>>41003005
The fact you think she can only be happy when collabing with men proves you're the only anti here. And a raging misogynist, too. Right?

>> No.41003043

>>41003005
Did you even read what that post was replying to? kek

>> No.41003054

>>41001670
You're the nuisance, 全肯定カス.
You're the one cheering her on as she slowly chokes away all of her conditional fans.
Most won't leave at first, but the mood changes. Old names are gone, noticeably.
If she really doesn't care about losing fans, then whatever. Guess that was yet another lie.

>> No.41003063

JUST LET THE THREAD DIE

>> No.41003075

Reminder the people telling her to collab with males and pretending they are morally superior also spread slander and rrats about her last february

>> No.41003082

>>41002977
We do own her. We're her fans. The people who financially support her and allow her to live her life the way she does instead of being a wage slave. We are owned the common fucking courtesy of at least looking out for us and taking what we want into consideration. We're the ones who if the entire fucking world went against her and disowned her We would still be loyal to her as long as she was loyal to us. Get that through your fucking head and stop acting like she can do whatever she wants.

>> No.41003090

>>41003063
I think she really needs to see this.
The only public place where people will actually talk about this

>> No.41003101

>>41003075
Not slander if it's true

>> No.41003215

>>41002181
Nah, most JP gachikoi left a long time ago. They're far less permissive than we are. Generally speaking, staying with her despite everything that happened was a major act of trust on our part.
She violates it over and over. She says she literally is depressed about losing fans and yet...
She herself is the one who is forcing them to leave.
I can't wait to see her hypocrisy later when she complains about all the fans she doesn't see anymore. As if she has that right now.

>> No.41003221

Fucking retards in this thread allowing male collabs is what got her banned in the first place from hololive. If she would've listened to us and never got involved with men she would still be in hololive. We know what's best for her. Fuck all you antis thinking it's ok.

>> No.41003246

>>41003090
You mean the only place that cares, she doesn't care about the 30 of you shitting your pants over this

>> No.41003256

>>41003221
It's a good thing that she got banned from hololive, brony. No true fan would want her to stay in that black company.

>> No.41003278

>>41002317
>it's okay for her to lie to us if it makes her happy
Fuck off. She said she hates liars. I'm merely acting on her own openly stated opinions.

>> No.41003285

>>41003082
so, you think you own her couse you are deluded into notion
>if I'm giving you money, you do what i say or I'll get angry
I also admit that you are quite loud for the minority you are.

>> No.41003357

>>40995123
>One day later, they are still debating who is to blame for the uproar.
>It still does not cross their minds that they are to blame.
Hmm

>> No.41003367

And if she ends up choosing this minority over you, are you faggots going to apologize?
No. You're going to sulk and then try to get rid of us again the next chance you have. And do you know what's worse: half of you no neck faggots arguing here actually hate male collabs too.

>> No.41003375

>>41002569
>That doesn't mean she joined it because of the men.
What the fuck does this even mean by this?
How is it relevant?

>> No.41003406

>>41003357
Yeah, we brainwashed her into joining that collab. How did you know?

>> No.41003451

>>41002668
May as well see what she has to say at the very least
It's the only real place to filter out angry mob noise
mostly
jp nekofami would still talk shit, but at least most gachikoi here are members while plenty of the 全肯定 are not.
May as well see for the sake of it

>> No.41003456

>>41003357
nekofami are not really known for their bright mind, when it comes to delusions, schizophrenia and parasocial relations to the max, yes, but intelligence, no.

>> No.41003473

>>41003285
Your boss gives you money and you follow their rules. If she wants us to be her devoted fans she needs to learn what the fuck is acceptable and tow the line. That's how she keeps fucking up over and over and over again. That's what drives her fans away. Do you see all the people here who are passed? They are the only ones who care enough to even speak about this because most just leave her. If she wants fans and money she needs to learn what we want and listen. No male collabs. Stay away from men because they always always get you into trouble but she keeps fucking up. It's going to be too late eventually and everyone will have left her.

>> No.41003495

>>41002840
I have the impression that it's not that most if not all the bigger jp gachikois changed their opinion on male collabs from night to day but more like they prioritize way more what they think is their happiness and supporting any decision she makes (no matter how stupid) after almost losing her a couple of times, over any kind of desire or opinion by them.

>> No.41003514

>>41002864
>he doesn't know

>> No.41003595

>>41003514
It's not about her reading the threads, imbecile, it's about the case of trying to communicate with this nest of madmen
Reading comprehension reps, now

>> No.41003605

>>41002977
>own her
I act like she loves us as a romantic partner.
Which is something she has said. Often.
You do not lie to the ones you love if you truly love them.

>> No.41003670

Ivory just leave the thread you fucking psychopath

>> No.41003696

>>41003256
Yeah, atleast she's in VShojo now, where she's free and not under pressure to do stuff she doesn't like, such as collabing with guys. Right?

>> No.41003749

We need to let her know this shit isn't going to fly and text her that we don't want male collabs. Fuck I'm pissed. She keeps ignoring what we want and it gets her into trouble. Then we're the ones that have to console her and pick up the fucking pieces every God damned time.

>> No.41003771

>>41003696
Hang yourself, coverschizo

>> No.41003776

I think she's finally asleep

>> No.41003786

>>41003670
How is he the psychopath??
Genuinely believing her and then genuinely feeling betrayed is what a naive person does. Not what a psychopath would do

>> No.41003807

>>41003285
Do employers own their employees? If an employee doesn’t do the job for which they were hired they stop paying them.

>> No.41003836

>>41003749
I'll text her, give me her number.

>> No.41003868

>>41003696
Hololive is where she was so happy and loved life. But she didn't fucking listen to a single thing any of her fans said and got involved with multiple douchelord men who fucked her life up exactly like we told her it would. Now she's doing the same fucking thing twice!!! Even after facing nuclear annihilation last time from being with men she still doesn't listen. Fuck man.

>> No.41003884

>>41003005
全肯定ゴミ don't care about her happiness, they care about their own obsession with "saving" her.
おまえ偉そうに説教してもなにも理解しなん

>> No.41003919

"We don't act like we own her, we just love her"
yet
"Bosses own their employers and we own her like we're her bosses and she's our employer"
like ancient mesopotamian pottery

>> No.41003942

>>41003884
Lol no shit she almost killed herself last time. People like you don't give a fuck. We're trying keep her safe.

>> No.41003947

>>41003473
>not only delusional but has superiority complex
door is that way, you can leave anytime,
also that analogy is quite shit, it doesn't make sense, you get paid for your skills, you just donate money to women on internet to have a illusion of relationship, also you are not her employee and you also don't make the rules.

>> No.41003949

>>41003256
>the male collab supporter is the holoschizo
Literal proof that antis are the ones supporting this lmao.

>> No.41003995

>>41003942
Keeping her safe by driving off as many fans as you can so that she'll have a breakdown Void Angel stream AGAIN about her declining numbers
Nice saviourfagging, anon.

>> No.41004029

>>41003947
We pay her salary dumbass. If she drives us away she has nothing. That means we get a say obviously. You're a dumbass who doesn't understand basic economics.

>> No.41004034

>>41003357
>implying we are to blame.
It's hilarious to me that you could even arrive at this conclusion, but it's so insane that I'm curious as to how you did.

>> No.41004054

In this thread, the only people justifying male collabs are antis.
don't believe their lies. They aren't fans. It should be obvious from their weak arguments and retarded logic

>> No.41004081

>>41003919
Bosses don’t own their employees when they caese paying them if they refuse to do their job that’s the point.

>> No.41004083

>>41003495
This is not true at all.
Pay attention.

>> No.41004086

i come back after a few hours and not a single fuck learned what taking bait means, there is no hope

>> No.41004099

>>41004034
He's a child who has no balls to complain to her about things he dislikes her doing, so he lashes out at the fans who actually do stand their ground

>> No.41004115

Feeling pretty fucking stupid right now for buying her ring

>> No.41004125

>>41003995
She had 5k last night for just a gaming stream

>> No.41004127

>>41003595
She's tried once.

>> No.41004134

>>41003771
Not yet, not until I see her flirt with men on stream. You know it's coming, and you can't do anything about it. You know her colleagues are encouraging her to play with men more. VShojo doesn't have a leash short enough to keep your whore's hormones in check.

>> No.41004149

>>41004086
Of course there's no hope everyone here is delusional and can't tell who is who and are just fighting each other and antis

>> No.41004160

>>41004125
>drama buff
>raid
You don't know how to numberfag

>> No.41004169

>>41004054
No shit but they keep trying to sound self righteous anyway. They want to see a repeat of her hololive explosion due to interacting with and trusting men who aren't her fans. They love it when she complains about her declining viewers after a male collab. They want her to fail. Fuck these faggots. If they want to see dick so much they should open a grindr account and leave this thread. Let the fans support her and keep her on the right path. No men. No male collabs.

>> No.41004179

>>41003670
?????
I have made like 3 posts, and none of them are all that schizo. You must be confusing me with somebody else.

>> No.41004197

>>41004125
will those people stick around for something that's not Elden Ring? are they going to donate to her? are they going to watch APEX or Pokemon?
are they going to join her funbox? or her twitcast?
many of those viewers were from raids too

>> No.41004265

>>41004160
She had iirc like 3.5-4k after the Delu drama which was a LOT bigger than this. And she might have even gotten raided in that too, iirc by Mouse. Those are some of the highest numbers lately for just gaming.

>> No.41004287

>>41003406
>>41004034
I talk about his behavior as his fans.
They are over acting the situation, she didn't even have direct contact with those two.
Plus one is her translator and the other is a V homo who has a ship with djm.
Seriously they made them so insecure that they had to hurt his wife ?(again).

>> No.41004304

Who's the anon that keeps calling us brony? Is he the yuruschizo?

>> No.41004310

You need to come to terms with the fact that she will continue to appear on streams with men regardless of whatever promises she makes.
You also need to realize that being on a stream of 10 people with 2 men she doesn't even talk to does not mean she's romantically interested in them/cheating on you.

>> No.41004334

>>41004125
She was at like 3.6k with ER until the raid
Drama, ER, people hoping she'll address it watched.
The difference she'll notice most is in her fanbox and twitcast, where her numbers are much smaller and she sees the names of entries every month.
Most gachi here have been in the fanbo for the entire time. Higher tier ones usually. Stuff like the 10000k yen one have, what, less than 200 people?

>> No.41004339

>>41004265
yes, anon. We don't count raids as actual natural channel growth because those aren't her fans.
How are you this retarded?

>> No.41004348

>>41004310
logic, we don't do that here

>> No.41004356

安心して, nekofami

I will take care of your oshi and make her happy. Leave it to me.

>> No.41004364

>>41004197
Well realistically most of her viewers are going to come from casual fans, most of whom didn't even hear about this controversy. She'll still get benefits from gachikoi no doubt but that's more in donations than CCV and from what I saw last night she seemed to be doing fine in that department as well.

>> No.41004382

>>41004197
Exactly. These homos can't understand that Mike is a very fragile and vulnerable person and she needs us to protect her. We tell her not to collab with men because it always brings destruction. These antis will stop at nothing to burn everything we love and she has worked so hard for to the fucking ground and piss on it.

>> No.41004403

>>41004310
No, what I need is for her to stop lying to us, and care about us.

>> No.41004411

>>41004287
>actually those two are okay because...

>> No.41004448

>>41004287
>men are fine because....
Nope. They aren't. Nice try, anti. ESL retard

>> No.41004481

>>41004339
Raids are a part of Twitch and "it was just a raid" is an excuse. But in any case all I am saying is she is clearly not hemorrhaging viewers as a result of this, it was normal levels even before the raid.

>> No.41004489

>>41004448
When will these bastards stop? We should take pitchforks and drive them out of the village. They can go follow Mori and see all the homo collabs they desire.

>> No.41004505

>>41004364
She told us in a Twitcast that she noticed a drop in Fanbox and Twitcast donations after the 凸 happened.
Obviously they won't all go at once.
But her death has been due to a thousand cuts over time. She is hurting people who love her, and hurting herself, according to her own words.

>> No.41004560

>>41004481
As >>41004334
said, youre missing the bigger picture.
I assume you're from /vsj/ so you probably don't know about this, but she talked about noticing a drop in Fanbox and YouTube/Twitcast memberships a month after the Totsu incident. That was on Mikeneko. Think about what that means
If she fucks up on Nazuna, Mikeneko's memberships decline. Hell, multiple anons here already cancellled their Fanbox

>> No.41004572

>>41004505
She won't listen to what we say. That's why. She can't help but listen to the wrong people who aren't her fans and it always destroys her.

>> No.41004618

>>41004560
cool, she should learn that being in abusive relationship is not the way forward

>> No.41004622

>>41004481
She didn't hemorrhage views at any point.
She still somehow went from 80k on her first live2d debut to...7k? on her new model.
Her public Twitcasts went from 4k to 1k over time.
Most people cling to hope, or stay and then just distance themselves over time.
And then they leave. Because they no longer care.

>> No.41004629

>>41004481
Also, what do you think is better for her income? EOPs (lets be real, Mouse fans don't speak Japanese) who won't donate, or actual gachikoi who will join a 10000 Yen per month Fanbox that she doesn't even post in/

>> No.41004644

>>41003749
Anon, as someone who is really against male collabs, i think it's time to admit our place.
We're a tiny minority as most other fans are either newbie Nazuna fans Vshojofags that genuinely, no exaggeration, would like her even having a boyfriend on stream and flirting with him (seriously, they get off from it) or her old biggest gachikois who reluctantly will let her do anything if that supposedly makes her happy even if it goes against what they were following her from before.
No matter how ethically right we are for expecting someone to not betray her principles against us, this is how things are and how things has been for months.
At any friction between us and the other groups it's going to be way easier to try to get rid of us no matter how much we whine about it.
And if you have been paying any attention at all for the past many months you already know that sending her DMs almost never solves the problem, in fact often makes it worse and could drive her bad.
As much i understand your feelings (and trust me, i've been deeply hurt too) i don't want nor think it
merits her to send her schizo shit again and then have to be severly worried when she goes no communication for the next couple of days.
Not to add that she absolutely knows about this topic and she has been reading opinions on it for a very long time, so a not single act she's making comes from a place of ignorance.
At this point on time as this kind of gachikoi i think we only have 2 options:
- Quietly leave and let her known by our abscence.
- Begrudgingly and painfully accept that random group male collabs are a thing that are going to be happening from time to time,
admit that she's now just a GFE streamer instead of a GF streamer and so you should treat her as another streamer and hope that through some time she changes her mind on it.

>> No.41004650

推しは自分がしたいことをしてくれるおもちゃじゃないぞ
好きになる、応援するのは自由だけどそれに対する見返りを求めるなよ?
見苦しいぞ

>> No.41004681

I don't want to see her collab with anyone because the only people she finds or is attracted to are the worst people in the world.

>> No.41004680

>>41004622
Hate to be "that guy", but her first live 2D was 60k
Her first stream back was the 87k one. Voice only

>> No.41004691

>>41004403
I know she lies and went back on her promises. She needs to stop making promises that are absurd like never interacting with a m*le on the internet, but you also need to stop threatening to kill yourself whenever she breathes in the general direction of a man.

>> No.41004699

Ivory-kun
Now would be a good time to an hero. Surely she'll notice you this time! Ne?
:)

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>>41004560
I am not from /vsj/. I am just simply pointing out that claiming she's going to hemorrhage viewers because of this when no one cares about it outside of 4chan is, well, cope.

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41004773

I like Mike

>> No.41004779

>>41004650
Another JP nekofami tweet, right?

>> No.41004807

>>41004125
It's good numbers, but as i mentioned earlier, it was the weekend, in her old good timeslot, playing a very often requested game that was a buff from her and she got a raid of which like 1.5k extra viewers stayed that let me tell you they don't stay for other streams.
In short, you're cherrypicking.

>> No.41004831

>>41004723
And why are you ignoring all of this then?>>41004505
>>41004560
>>41004622
Because you're pushing a narrative

>> No.41004889

>the moment you realized JP nekifami are sane and rational, but overseas ones are batshit insane
today is the opposite day?

>> No.41004905

>>41004691
>but you also need to stop threatening to kill yourself whenever she breathes in the general direction of a man
Whoa ! let's not be too hasty if they want to do that I think they should be allowed to it's much better for them

>> No.41004922

>>41004889
You haven't seen their circle tweets, kek

>> No.41004949

>>41004644
Jesus christ. You're really sinking far aren't you, Nekofam? Is this what you fucks truly think?

>> No.41004971

She has been losing viewers for a good while now, this entire thing won't be helping at all, unless you really think VShojofags are gonna jump in excitement when they see her collabing with males and they'll learn JP for her and join all her memberships

>> No.41004990

>>41004949
No, he's just a child molester

>> No.41005077

>>41004644
Grow some balls

>> No.41005087

>>41004971
She's been losing viewers because she keeps playing Apex every week.

>> No.41005100

I told you about VShojo
I warned you
The culture clash was never going to end well. Now they VShojo kiddies are here trying to "save" her from (You).

>> No.41005107

>>41004622
That's all true, and people have said it's exactly what was going to happen at the beginning. It's all very predictable given what the landscape is. And the fact that she can STILL pull 5k is honestly quite good, she landed on her feet and still has a career even if it doesn't match what she had in Hololive.
In any case, all of that happened before this collab so it is really besides the point.

>> No.41005124

>>41001338
Be realistic about it she loves her fans but when it comes to decisions kson have more sway than a bunch anonymous dudes.

>> No.41005145

>>41005077
Ditto bro.
>>41004644
Man the fuck up and tell her what you want. Don't be a cuck and let the antis destroy her again. If we don't save her who the fuck will??

>> No.41005157

>>41004411
>>41004448
>posing to me oshi about my schizophrenia makes me anti

>> No.41005190

>>41004029
I really hope this is just bait and not an actual "fan"

>> No.41005193

>>41005087
If there are millions of apex viewers, one of them is me.
If there is one apex viewer, it is me.
If there are no apex viewers, then I am gone from this earth.

>> No.41005219

>>41005087
Yeah, and this won't help at all.
Elden Ring buff will only last so long, and that's assuming she even finishes the game (the thought of her fighting Malenia is hilarious)

>> No.41005228

>>41005190
This entire thread is literally full of bait, what do you think?

>> No.41005248

>>41005107
Stop saying she's "pulling 5k" when that was a raid. You are a fucking git
Her average is 3.2kg. Getting a raid does not make you a 5k streamer.
Or are you talking about her YouTube, which she barely does public streams on? Getting 5k there doesn't matter much when she does a public stream once every month, max

>> No.41005269

>>41005124
That's not true. She is extremely devoted to her fans and one of the most loving streamers I've ever seen. She takes her fan input extremely seriously. She tells kson all the time she can't collab with men. She was probably forced or coerced into this one and she felt bad about it.

We need to be harder on her and put our foot down.

>> No.41005350

>>41004831
I don't have time to respond to all of you and the only narrative I had to push is that "people will abandon her over this" is cope. It's not true. It's a very small minority that's upset and it doesn't do anyone any good to deny that.

>> No.41005353

I think this viewers debate is moot.
This section of gachikois are just a tiny part of her fanbase and we already discussed a lot why she wasn't growing in number of live viewers a lot in the past.
It has to do many things like:
very little consistency in the number of streams, random guerilla hours, spending more time doing twitcasts than proper streams which filter a lot of people (also often members only), trying to attract an overseas audience as Nazuna but streaming at an hour that is shit in the morning for both the USA and the European audience, adding to that still not being able to communicate effectively with them, wasting the buff she gets for special streams by not doing anything the next 2-3 days, lack of any kind of box or collab partner from VshojoJP (kson streams way earlier) to share a bigger fanbase, not even knowing what are the actual popular streaming games and so on and so on...

In any case not of them has to do with this (since most viewers aren't gachis) and since she's starting to be more serious with streaming more and paying more attention to what she does i can predict she's going to grow her number of viewers over this year, likely.

>> No.41005403

>>41005228
True

>> No.41005410

>>41005190
That's the reality. If she loses her most devoted fans she has nothing. A streamer is only as good as the number of loyal fans they have. We are the most important people in her life because Kson sure as fuck isn't going to be the one watching her streams and paying the bills.

>> No.41005432

There's only one way to prevent her from collabing with males. The final solution.

>> No.41005435

So, are we convinced about not making another thread for a while yet?

>> No.41005460

>>41005350
Do you think she notices greynames or actual top 100 donator gachikoi more?
I guarantee she'll be far more hurt at seeing regulars leave rather than say, her aveage on Twitch going from 3.2k down to 3.1k

>> No.41005467

>>41004650
黙れカスゴミ

>> No.41005484

>>41005432
Kill all men

>> No.41005488

>>41005435
Holy fuck people are mad this time. This is insane. They are actually pissed dude.

>> No.41005504

>>41005410
(You)

>> No.41005512

She's throwing away some of he rmost loyal fans for casuals that probably don't even know Mikeneko exists

>> No.41005514

>>41005435
She's asleep so no point
>>41005488
Do you know why? Fans are justifying male collabs. T

>> No.41005522

>>41004680
She revealed her actual numbers on Twitter. Youtube cuts off a percentage portion of some amount from live views.

>> No.41005561

>>41005488
>>41005514
Sorry, I meant to say that fans are now justifying male collabs. Of cousre people are mad. That will piss eveyrone else off and the thread will devolve into this each time
If you love male collabs so much, why are you even here?

>> No.41005573

>>41004949
>>41005077
>>41005145
Anons, for god fucking's sake, can you tell me what the fuck happened the last 3 fucking times some of you went schizoing to "tell her what we think"?
Can you tell me how was this board after she widly overreacted and we were thinking in various occasions she could have done something really bad to herself?
Did she eventually change her opinion or did she end up telling us to fuck off and it led her to start doing this things more?
HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS UNTIL YOU REALIZE YOUR "MAN THE FUCK UP" SHIT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK AT ALL AND WE HAVE TOLD HER ABOUT THIS FOR MONTHS?

>> No.41005582

None of you have the balls to an hero. Shame. It would really get to her ;)

>> No.41005620

>>41005410
Sakana is a really devoted fan but isn't upset. Well he is upset, but he's upset at (You) not her. She has fans that are devoted in different ways than unicorns.

>> No.41005633

>>41005573
Sorry, have male collabs been an issue for months now. Faggot

>> No.41005643

>>41005620
isn't Sakana a girl?

>> No.41005646

>>41005582
With friends like this VShojo anon, who needs enemies

>> No.41005648

>>41005582
she wouldn't even notice...

>> No.41005681

>>41005620
Well Sakana might support his oshi and make cute fanart and be there for her but I post schizophrenic rambles about how I will hurt myself if I see her stream with a man one more time so who's the one really contributing to this community

>> No.41005699

>>41005353
>most viewers aren't gachi
While true, a solid maybe 20-30% of them show gachi adjacent traits to some extent
Based on various responses they've made, at least
Those people still have feelings that can cool. And if their feelings cool, the more chance there is of those people leaving eventually.

>> No.41005707

>>41005681
Definitely not the person falseflagging on 4chan.

>> No.41005737

>>41005648
She will if she relies on your SCs to buy designer makeup.

>> No.41005800

>>41004644
Fuck this shit you spineless retard.
Die fighting.

>> No.41005808

>>41005737
Maybe she should stop being a fucking idiot and listen when her fans send her DMs not to collab with men for the 1000th fucking time. She needs to be smarter than this.

>> No.41005845

>>41005808
The weight of your DM is equal to the amount of money you've sent her recently.

>> No.41005853

>>41004889
>sane
Considering the death threats I got in my DMs, they're just a different kind of crazy.

>> No.41005860

>>41005633
Actually yes, are you really fan or you have been under the rock over the last time?

>> No.41005866

>>41005808
One brain vein please understand

>> No.41005914

When JP Nekofami start replying to your Tweets iwth their retarded takes, is it better to just ignore them?
They're so fucking sanctimonious

>> No.41005922

Guys I think you need to calm down.

>> No.41005977

>>41005860
It being an issue back in August which was solved does not mean that "it has been an issue for months"
It was an issue months ago that should have been solved. this current time is a separate incident caused by her being a fucking retard again

>> No.41006007

>>41005845
I give her more than I should and If she keeps ignoring all of her fans I won't be here to help her pick up the fractured pieces for the 10th God damn time when we warn her over and over again what will happen. She is flying off the fucking rails again and she needs to chill and listen to the people who actually want what's best for her.

>> No.41006030

>>41005914
I just politely told them to fuck off then blocked them.
If you feel like you can convince them then go ahead and talk to them, but honestly they're beyond any help.

>> No.41006054

I blame Kson

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>>41005914
No way anon, it's a great idea to get in arguments with JP nekofami on Twitter about this.

>> No.41006069

>>41005800
Sure, but try to kill yourself "fighting" before you drive her insane AGAIN pushing her to do more of this while her jp fanbase encourages her to do it in retaliation.
The 5th time we do the exact same thing will work for sure.

>> No.41006122

>>41005582
Not yet. Give me a few days. I want to make it interesting.

>> No.41006141

>>41006069
sorry, did you forget which "side" "won" in the Totsu incident?

>> No.41006154

>>41006069
No she needs to understand that she has to listen to us and she needs to do what we want instead of listening to her whore coworkers leading her down a destructive path for the now actual fucking 100th time.

>> No.41006198

>>41005853
>JP nekofami go crazy in defending their oshi
>EN nekofami go crazy in attacking their oshi

>> No.41006232

>>41006141
She listened to us and is now freaking out listening to people who don't give a shit about her yet again . Now she will see the backlash and panic yet again when she could've just listened to us from the get go. It always happens because of her friends. They are a fucking horrible influence on her.

>> No.41006239

>>41005977
It was a problem in august that led to try to fix things over the next few months + all the times she couldn't give an straight answer over doing male collabs after that + the tourists and clippers trying to compel her to do it the christmas eve stream + now this.
This isn't an isolated incident.

>> No.41006271

>>41006030
I think I won't block them, but just ignore them
I did say to her in a circle Tweet that it's difficult to say anything publicly due to the fact that I'll be attacked. Might as well have evidence of it if she stalks my profile

>> No.41006298

>>41006141
Looking from now, apparently they won at the end.

>> No.41006314

>>41006298
This isn't the end.
Although feel free to off yourself now if you want

>> No.41006326

>>41006069
>5th
This is the second time.
And after the last time, she realized how badly she fucked up.
She's hurting her own fans when she told us she wants to pay us back for our support.
This is how she pays us back.
Lol.

>> No.41006381

What does she have to say to be forgiven? Do you think she will even acknowledge it?

>> No.41006438

>>41006198
I am defending my oshi, retard. I am defending the relationship that makes her happy. Why the fuck do you think she freaks out about seeing viewers watching other girls? How many non-gachikoi are going to dedicate themselves to one person?

>> No.41006488

>>41006438
She need to only rely on her fans and block everyone else. She could stream more and just stay with us and be happy. We can make her happy.

>> No.41006501

What are you retards seething about now?

>> No.41006527

>>41006381
Literally just apologize for lying and breaking her word and show she cares by re-affirming what she said and saying she won't do it again.

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41006551

I'm happy she had a nice week, met some indie girls and got some cute new emotes

>> No.41006574

>>41006501
Mikeneko joined a 10 person collab with 2 males in it and she spoke maybe 1 word to them over the course of the entire stream people are having a defcon 5 level nuclear meltdown over it.

>> No.41006612

>>41006326
She had more than 2 incidents that ended up in someone from here sending her an schizo DM and all the things i described happening.

>> No.41006630

>>41006574
If you really didn't think it was a big deal you wouldn't be lying and downplaying how much she actually interacted with them

>> No.41006641

>>41006574
kek

>> No.41006675

>>41006612
Yeah maybe she should fucking listen so she stays out of trouble?? We're the ones who actually love her more than anyone and she won't listen.

>> No.41006684

>>41006574
That's it? That's not even that bad, be glad this isn't an ame or a kronii situation.

>> No.41006705

It's because she's been consistently cold to her viewers, contradicting herself, not showing affection, and breaking promises over the past year that people are reacting the way they are now.
Death by a thousand cuts

>> No.41006711

The great replacement is proceeding apace.

>> No.41006720

>>41006574
Imagine lying so much about all of the details.

>> No.41006813

>>41006705
It's because everything anon said was going to happen happened.

>> No.41006831

>>41006630
alright then smartass enlighten us how very "much" they interacted besides a few questions and answers

>> No.41006869

>>41006831
Any interaction at all is already a betrayal.
Not to mention she's now following both men on Twitter

>> No.41006883

>>41006574
>lying this much

>> No.41007038

>>41006869
To be fair she followed in twitter some other men in the past too. She has over a hundred follows as Nazuna and over 2 hundred as Mike so it's not that weird.

>> No.41007044

>>41006720
>>41006883
True, it was a 12 person collab with 2 guys and 10 girls, not a 10 person collab.

>> No.41007048

>>41006574
Lmao fuck you. She shouldn't have been in that collab in the first place. You're omitting all the important things too because she definitely talked to them more than 1 fucking time. She follows them on social now. After we told her 100 times not to get involved with men again since they fucked her life up so bad in holo to the point she almost took her life. All we want is to love her and look out for her and she ignores us constantly. Fuck this and fuck you.

>> No.41007081

>>41007044
2 guys too many

>> No.41007164

Kannadzuki was smart to leave after she flirted with her hair stylist

>> No.41007180

>>41007081
We need to tell her again it's not ok. If we don't put out foot down hard this time she's going to fucj up again and spiral into a mega depression. If we don't look out for her not a single person will.

>> No.41007218

>>41007180
I've already made my tweets, anon.

>> No.41007222

>tells us that there's a 0 chance of her collabing with males
>says that outside of existing male friends, she doesn't involve herself with men, both on-stream and behind the scenes as Mikeneko
>tells us that viewers have the right to speak their minds
>tells us that she could never hurt or hate her viewers
>tells us that she understands why male interaction makes us uncomfortable
>tells us to not worry about male collabs because there's 0 chance right now
>tells us we can relax
And then does this.
The absolute least she could do is apologize for lying to the people who trust her.
You know, like she always asks us to.

>> No.41007299

>>41006684
she still hasn't even bothered addressing what this was
I think she genuinely tried to say that all of the participants were actually female, which is an utter lie.

>> No.41007319

>>41007222
She needs to cut all men out of her life ESPECIALLY the ones she knows in private not just because it hurts her fans but because those are the crazy snake bastards that fucked her whole life up the last time. We're here for her and she doesn't listen. We need to be louder.

>> No.41007335

>join company full of whores that collab with males
>she starts collabing with males
why the fuck are you surprised? I tried to warn people but they called me an anti, they called me a schizo, they banned me from the thread. my prophecies became true in the end

>> No.41007370

>>41007180
>If we don't put out foot down hard this time she's going to fucj up again and spiral into a mega depression.
I think she's going to spiral into depression whenever you "put out foot down hard" as she did the previous times. But no, continue ignoring me. This time will work for sure.

>> No.41007384

>>41007299
she condescendingly said they were all female and then justified herself by saying she didn't know there was males in the collab, which is a lie

>> No.41007386

>>41007335
We need to tell her to not do that shit. She thought since there were 12 people that it was no big deal and we need to let her know it is a VERY big deal.

>> No.41007441

>>41007386

she needs to leave vshojo and join varium

>> No.41007448

>>41007335
you are an anti and a schizo, just fuck off already

>> No.41007460

>>41007384
No shit. she could have just left if she felt it was an actual issue

>> No.41007508

>>41007448
NTA but so are you if you're okay with this.

>> No.41007538

>>41007370
She went into depression because the men in her life wrecked everything she had dumbass. Take your meds and think about it for 2 seconds. If she hadn't fucked around with the drama tuber faggot and that pretty boy she was trying to fuck she would still be in hololive with all her friends having the time of her life instead true fans have to keep defending her and trying to steer her clear of male collabs while also battling the antis who are trying to ruin her with homo collabs.

>> No.41007545

>>41007508
her being in VShojo isn't the issue. Her being retarded again is

>> No.41007589

If she just asked
>can I join big collab with man sometimes
Her broken fandead would quietly nod "yes honey"
But she does it weeks after saying it'll never happen
Where's that support vshojo?

>> No.41007595

>>41007538
>and that pretty boy she was trying to fuck
FUCK OFF GET OUT YOU FAGGOT SCUM SHIT HEAD

>> No.41007621

>>41007384
how are you all so sure that she did know about it if she herself is claiming she simply did not know. I keep hearing "she was watching the stream" but was she really? I was watching the stream before she participated and she was not in the userlist.

>> No.41007625

>>41007545
She's vulnerable and it's up to us to be men and protect her.

>> No.41007662

>>41007621
Trackers

>> No.41007670

>>41007460
I thought about this too but she probably didn't want to seem like a shitty friend to Kson for bailing out on her yet again.

>> No.41007710

>>41007595
People like you are why she almost killed herself last time. NO MALE COLLABS. NO HOMOS. NO DATING MEN.

>> No.41007718

>>41007670
I'd rather her be a shitty friend to Kson than a shitty oshi to us
And if Kson can't keep men out of Nazuna collabs, she's a shitty friend

>> No.41007721

>>41007662
she could have just had the stream on a tab somewhere and wasn't even watching. I had a tracker too anon and didn't see her watching it.

>> No.41007765

>>41007710
YOU ARE A KEK

>> No.41007773

>>41007710
You are a faggot. That's not what I'm getting mad about
The fact you're implying she was trying to cheat on us is what I' pissed out, you scumbag. You retard. Retard retard retard retard retards retard retard retard retard retard retard retard retard retard

>> No.41007784

This is all Kson's fault

>> No.41007833

>>41007710
C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK C.UCK FUCKING C.UCK
kill yourself

>> No.41007842

>>41007721
And she should have just left as soon as she heard a male voice.
Remember how she acted when the Holostars schedule showed up on her stream?

>> No.41007870

She said she'd kill herself if her kaigai fans came to hate her
obviously that was a lie as well

>> No.41007934

>>41007710
Fucking cuck. You don't even watch her.

>> No.41007935

>>41007870
The one lie im ok with

>> No.41007947

>>41007870
Obviously we're still here and we're fucking pissed off that she's being a retard again .

>> No.41008008

>>41007934
I support her way more than you dumbass. You're one of the people who push her to date and get with men. I'm trying to keep her with the fans. She needs to rely on us for everything and let us protect her instead of talking to other men.

>> No.41008044

Tourist here. What did you dumb motherfuckers think was going to happen when your oshi joined vshojo? It's like your wife getting a job at the brother but you insist she'll be doing nothing pornographic.

>> No.41008053

>>41007710
What a fucking moron you are

>> No.41008055

>>41008008
You also think she wanted to cheat on us with another man, so think twice about your words

>> No.41008132

I know for a fact there is one Nekofami left that she does trust and he is a gachikoi and not a spineless one. He didn't have a meltdown over this so if he still has faith in her then so do I.

>> No.41008166

>>41008044
She isn't supposed to be around men period. I don't give a fuck if she's in hololive, nijisanji, vshojo, or whatever the fuck. No men means no fucking swinging Dicks near her.

>> No.41008182

You think she fingerfucks herself to Aethel and Nyanners when she sees them flirt, hoping it could be her one day?

>> No.41008260

>>41008055
She was talking to that fucktard when she shouldn't have been. That's a 100% bona-fide fact. She should've listened to us and she wouldn't have gotten into trouble. Now she's falling again and we have to be hard as fuck on her about this. We can't let it slide just because we love her.

>> No.41008264

>>41008182
VShojos want us to believe "bronies" made this post

>> No.41008282

>>41008166
But that's simply not a real stance to have while in Vshojo. You can't be a unicorn panderer while next door they're making fun of unicorns and telling them to kill themselves.

>> No.41008323

>>41008260
I'm not saying she should have talked to him. But you said
>she was trying to fuck
Scumbag

>> No.41008351

>>41008282
She only needs us. She doesn't need to even talk to the vshojo whores. If she would just focus on us and forget about everything else life would be a perfect utopia but instead she keeps making decisions that make no fucking sense at all.

>> No.41008424

I'll do it. I'll become her vshojo streamer bf.

>> No.41008465

>>41008264
enough with the brony shit you fucking weirdo. Go back to complaining about how the meidos are out to get you

>> No.41008507

>>41008465
Oh now it's enough, when someone calls you out.

>> No.41008575

This thread was some of the most concentrated autism I've seen in many years. This one will be logged in the annals of time as being one of the weirdest things I've seen on the internet. Well done anons.

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41008580

>>41008264
Not even close. I'm just here to enjoy my popcorn.

>> No.41008616

I bet she won't address it today either

>> No.41008655

>>41008616
She already addressed it. She called people complaining urusai

>> No.41008687

>>41008616
She'll probably brush it off and be passive aggressive as fuck/dismissive about it again and make another blunder just like hololive. Then she goes into turbo depression and we have to pull her out of it. Rinse and repeat over and over.

>> No.41008745

So you guys think she's your wife?

>> No.41008883

>>41008745
Rushia was

>> No.41008950

Never make a thread like this again. Thank you.

>> No.41009112

>>41008580
Nice try

>> No.41009117

For the love of christ, give the thread a rest until she says something. This level of autism and anti shit is just sad.

>> No.41009575

I think you all know who's fault this really is and why you should all anti her to protect your wife ;)

>> No.41009666

>>41009575
I don't see how antiing Mike helps here

>> No.41010008

They're keeping this thread up just to laugh at you. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCKING FANKEKS GETTING WHAT THEY FUCKING DESERVE. I HOPE YOUR WHORE OSHI BITES IT

>> No.41010169

Mafumafu cum dumpster

>> No.41010238

>>41009117
go hide like the pussy you are and let the thread die then

>> No.41010569

:)

>> No.41010604

Please don't make another thread for your guys sake, give yourself some time to step away from this and breathe

>> No.41010638

>>41008132
Are you in the bunker?

>> No.41010876

Liar. I'll wait for you to talk because I always give you that second chance and more, but it's out of loyalty instead of hope.

>> No.41011048

I wonder if Mafu2 came inside her?

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