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Streaming is overrated. Nobody watches a vtuber (or streamer) because they are particularly entertaining. They just watch them because they saw them in a meme or fanart and want to feel like they are fans of the source material, just to "fit in." It's the same thing with gacha games. The constant hunt for "secondaries" and "fake fans" has lead to an epidemic of no standards because people always value the source material over any derivatives even if the source material is vastly inferior. And worst of all the source gets free advertisement off the backs of fans who honestly do the real work in increasing interest for vtubers (and streamers) without seeing so much as a dime from them. And those fans are probably doing it because one their favorite artists, animators, or other social media personalities made something relating to a vtuber and now they feel obligated to be fans of that vtuber as well. Nothing is honest anymore, and it's led to a watered down form of entertainment where everyone pretends they're enjoying it just so they don't feel like they're missing out on something. If people were more honest with themselves and others, then there wouldn't be a fear of missing out and streaming would have virtually no market value.

>> No.43039325

>>43039137
I watch because they're all my girlfriends.

>> No.43039397

>>43039325
fpbp

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>>43039137

>> No.43039501

>If people were more honest with themselves and others, then there wouldn't be a fear of missing
"societal problem wouldn't exist if all of society was different". great insight anonchama, highly productive.
how come we still haven't stopped war by just getting along better? that would objectively immediately end war

>> No.43039552

fippy bippy
I didn't watch streamers until Hololive happened because it was obviously for gay people and lobotomized normalfags(gay adjacent) and if I wasn't literally in love with them watching them at all would be cringe as fuck. No idea how people can lower themselves so much

>> No.43039555

I've been listening to japanese anime women stream for 5 years without understanding anything and I'm not about to stop now

>> No.43039590

>>43039137
I don't know man. Sounds like a Hololive problem and not a vtuber problem to me.

>> No.43039614

>>43039137
You have no soul.

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>>43039137
Watch better streamers kek. Holos can get away with putting out few, terrible, boring streams because the community that has formed around them carries them. People are in love with the community, not the vtuber: memes, art, animation, games. The vtuber is only there to be an icon, a mascot character to inspire fan content. In this aspect Hololive is pretty similar to Touhou, bullet hells are kinda niche but the creativity of its fandom brought a lot of people in.
Watch 2views that have only themselves to rely on to keep a stream entertaining.
This is also why Polka is my favorite Holo by the way. She focuses on livestreaming games a lot less than a regular holo, sings a lot more and even does a fair amount of actually good prerecorded content. I feel she is one of the few that isn't carried by her community.

>> No.43040640

In reality the only reason people watch vtubers is because they are made to cater to the most pathetic male demographic so well.
>a woman pretending being an anime character pretends liking you while playing video games

The only exception to this is the few gay men watching male vtubers.

>> No.43040696

I wouldn't have became an idolfag if it wasn't for the cute dog playing old games

>> No.43041301

>>43040640
>gay men are the exception
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
womenbrained homos got so cocky after only a few years of society not reminding them of how repulsive they are, holy shit
please let the sandniggers find a way

>> No.43041336

>>43039137
didn't read lol

>> No.43041469

>>43040640
Videogames aren't a core identity of vtubers wtf lmao

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>>43039137
No one can refute this because it's the truth.

>> No.43044122

>>43039137
>They just watch them because they saw them in a meme or fanart and want to feel like they are fans of the source material, just to "fit in."
Chumbuds

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>>43039137
Wrong. I will consume live streams
If I can't watch it live I will watch the VOD or wait until I have time to do so
If I can't find time then it's okay, I move on and look forward to the next stream. FOMO is for children
I ignore any and all clip channels which display clickbait themed behavior
If said clickbait channel exhibits titles with poor grammar/spelling mistakes I will hide & block them immediately
If a channel spams useless polls, posts screenshots of vtubers' tweets, or uploads lewd fanart on their page for the sole purpose of baiting traction and likes to their channel, then that is also an instant block

Watch streams. Get to know the vtuber properly. See them as they are meant to be viewed. You will find yourself having a far more enjoyable experience.

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>/vt/ has been successfully gaslit into believing that a streamer doing their job is bad

>> No.43044381

Sorry, but I legitimately enjoy Okayu's voice and streams and her songs are pretty much the only way to enjoy it. The model being pure sex is a bonus

>> No.43044766

>>43039137
Not for me, I watch some chuubas because I find them entertaining, reading this you are probably one of those normie who just got in vtubing because you saw a meme on facebook.
No offense tho.

>> No.43046107

>>43039137
Nobody? there's somebody, you retard

>> No.43047089

>>43039137
I don't know about the whole text but it is completely true that corpos vtubers are profiting from basically being hard carried by everybody else, including fans working for free.
Their models, their stream backgrounds and frames, the fuck ton of fan-art they get (some of them even used as high quality stream thumbnails),
the fan clip channels and all other free publicity, the company publicity for them, the sponsors they get from being in a big corpo (yes, they do something get sponsors as a pack, not because they were specifically required for it),
the games they play, the movies they do watchalongs for, the songs they cover, the original songs they get (done by composers and lyricists), the choreographies they do by imitating choreographers in a some sort of school.
All of them are done by others and often by free.
They basically just have to show up every now and then and have a good enough voice and personality (that they probably got trained in the months on between their hiring and their debuts) and even the most boring ones just get classified as "comfy".

>> No.43047395

>>43047089
HoloJP is God and you should learn to kneel

>> No.43047462

>>43044287
You've only thought up these reasons because you don't want to admit that you just want to be a part of something greater. These reasons are just excuses and afterthoughts slapped on to make it seem like you are a free thinker. In reality, you are lying to yourself when you say you enjoy watching streams where someone just plays video games for 10 hours straight. You are just going with what the crowd thinks and what anons on /vt/ want you to think.

>> No.43047601

>>43047395
Coping already this early? Your oshis are just mid-tier chuubas from NND hard-carried by their gachis.

>> No.43047764

>>43047601
I've watched 24 hours of Korone without sleeping 4 times in my life so far.
The amount of kino i've experienced in the last few years is bizarre and if im under some deluded spell, I'm glad to be.

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>>43047764
>I've watched 24 hours of Korone without sleeping 4 times in my life so far.
What the actual fuck is wrong with you?

>> No.43047886

>>43047830
Why did she do it if not for me to watch?

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>>43047886
>Hi, you are my oshi. I've watched you for days without sleeping.
>O-oh, okay (ew, creep)

>> No.43048165

>>43048090
They are unironically idols to me.
Fuck God. This is better.

>> No.43048416

>>43039137
>>43039137
You're right OP but sadly people will dismiss your correct analysis with "TLDR" and "go back" because they can't read anything besides a few sentences at a time in children's picture books found in their special ed classroom.

But you basically summarized the entire redditor mindset. Basically dipshits, kids, and anyone who is insecure feels a constant need to be part of the trend, the cool crowd, and get validation. So they pretend to like shit that sucks for validation from others.

And the theory in psychology is that if you pretend long enough then it eventually becomes real. So people end up actually liking the trash content.

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>>43048416
>part of the trend, the cool crowd

>> No.43048647

>>43048489
I think maybe anyone who is into vtubers but not hololive is the ones pretending

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>>43047462
If you say so, Anon.
I mean the following in as sincere way as possible: You seem to believe you've come across some grand epiphany and that you're speaking the truth nobody wants to hear. But I can assure you there are people that genuinely have fun watching vtubers. Even if you actually believe the things you're saying, that's far from the majority opinion. Just because you can't extract joy from them yourself doesn't mean you've cracked some kind of "code" that applies to everybody.

>> No.43049391

>>43048489
I forgot to put quotes around the word cool. But the fact remains that people who are desperate to be part of the trend do it because they think it's popular, and people tend to think being part of a popular thing makes them cool.

>> No.43049560

>>43049264
>I'm an NPC and proud!

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>>43039137
Absolutely based.
Absolutely correct.
Fuck this "hobby". Go outside, do something that matters. Take a step back and look at literally any other community or even other boards outside of /vt/. You people are living in a sewer and worshiping logs of shit while experiencing a shared schizophrenic delusion.
Reexamine your life choices.

>> No.43050018

>>43039137
You sound like you're depressed and are projecting that onto others. Please go talk to a doctor.

>> No.43050055

>>43049391
You sound underage

>> No.43050087

ITT: I don't like vtubers I just want to shitpost and project onto others
Nice opinions retards you should kys

>> No.43050296

Vtubers should have never been streamers first. They should be general purpose entertainers and only use streams to pad content when there's nothing more interesting (concert, album, big competition/event, unique collabs) going on. Nobody wants to watch some random ethot just suck at games forever. You could have just gone on Twitch for that.

>> No.43050601

>>43050296
/vt/ is just streamwatchers coping with their sunken cost fallacy, it's all going to deaf ears

>> No.43050723

>>43050601
Cope and seethe
https://files.catbox.moe/ujm5fb.mp4

>> No.43050790

>>43049560
>i don't know how to respond so I'll call you an NPC!
Argument lost.

>> No.43051172

>>43050790
The argument was already lost when you admitted to being a drone.

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>>43050296
>Nobody

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>>43051184
>All these lemmings following the crowd mean they are actually enjoying it!
The numbers have rotten your brain.

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>>43051320
you are very smart and your brain has fully developed

>> No.43051430

OP is a schizo but I do wish vtubing was more accepting of pre-recorded content and wasn't so focused on the live aspect

>> No.43051542

>>43051430
Pretty sure youtube throttles vtuber content any chance it gets, non-live is easier to target

>> No.43051676

>>43051172
Wrong. The argument was lost the moment you struggled to reply with anything substancial and backpedalled to that brainless copy and paste response.

>> No.43051899

>>43039137
OP is a retard

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>>43051676
You've already lost this fight.

>> No.43052024

>>43044371
i hate that bitch, though that image is very cute, nice

>> No.43052134

>>43051430
there are creators who happen to be vtubers, but that's a little different
https://youtu.be/Dk5aBSNu3No
https://youtu.be/NN5RjAW8TV0

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>>43051933
The fight was over when you conceded 2 posts ago.

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>>43039137
I didn't read a single sentence in your post, OP.

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>>43052134
nta but I love Mayuru's art tutorials, great taste

>> No.43053242

>>43050055
how's that

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I'm not a NEET. I don't have time to watch someone play a game for 2-3 hours. I only consume vtuber content in 1-5 minute highlight clips.

If you want me to watch something live it has to be extra special.

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>>43053242
it's literally a symptom of puberty, lampooned in the episode of South Park when Stan turns 10 years old and everything looks and sounds like shit

>> No.43055588

>>43040200
Well Polka is the only holo who cares enough to organize her own show

>> No.43055855

>>43041469
Yes they are. The biggest events in vtubing now are either lives or video games tournaments

>> No.43056864

Vtubers are indeed boring. Their fans are a hivemind who lower their IQ and throw away their braincells to watch their oshi.
As long as you have fun, it shouldn't matter. But do not let the community hold you back. Just quit and watch something actually entertaining if you feel shit

>> No.43057517

>>43039137
You made this thread already 14 hours ago. >>43012439
Quit spamming.

You were BTFO then, and your BTFO now. Stop pretending like you're special for shitting on (popular thing). It just makes you an attention whore and an edgelord.

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