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>> No.43242747

>>43242680
it's over...

>> No.43242768

>>43242680
We are so fucked

>> No.43242807

>>43242768
give specific reasons why cover is fucked other than your retarded /vt/ rratmancing.

>> No.43242808

>>43242680
fuck

>> No.43242828

This is unironically, non-satirically, absolutely sans jokingly the Final Yab.

>> No.43242838

>>43242680
This changes nothing

>> No.43242851

>>43242680
Sisters, say farewell to your Stars oshis now while you still can
(The same applies to those whose oshis bring low numbers)

>> No.43242852

I can't wait for the holo version of Salome that everyone will call legitimate and it will be a natural 100k+ viewer phenomenon even while she slowly decays into the 10ks then 4view.

>> No.43242867

oh no...

>> No.43242897

>>43242680
Holo NFTs incoming.

>> No.43242902

It's literally over. You all saw when WWE went PG

>> No.43242926

It’s fucking so over.

>> No.43242927

>>43242680
open to pozzing by blackrock or chinks

>> No.43242940

Not public IPO retards

>> No.43242963

Oh no... yagoo why...

>> No.43242982

>>43242807
low performing talent might not be supported equally anymore.
See niji

>> No.43242998

>>43242680
We can finally get a Saudi sponsored 3d concert in Riyadh.

>> No.43243027

>>43242807
Certain investors will mandate the company to change to push certain agendas. You know which investor.

>> No.43243032

>>43242940
>listing on the Tokyo Stock Exchange
>Not public
Are you fucking retarded?

>> No.43243056

>>43242851
tempiss will be around for a while unfortunately
starsjp is absolutely fucked though lmao

>> No.43243077

>>43242680
It was nice while it lasted. Pack it up boys, time to find a new hobby.

>> No.43243083
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43243083

>>43242680
Can't wait for the Tencent buyout just to dissolve Cover

>> No.43243088

It's overwari da...

>> No.43243113

>>43243056
If it get rid of Altare than good, I love cute girls, vesper and Axel are cool tho and can stay

>> No.43243180

>>43242927
don't give them any ideas.

>> No.43243191

>>43243083
Tencent is Chinese and this is on the Tokyo stock exchange tho?

>> No.43243195
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43243195

>COVID boom over
>COVER stock prices as high as they'll ever be
Pretty smart desu senpai. Time to cash out.

>> No.43243216

>>43242680
>The girls will be forced to stream and stop being lazy OR face consequences for once from investors
How is this bad again?

>> No.43243224

>>43242982
>All homo will get shit
UNICORNCHAD CANT STOP WINNING

>> No.43243239

Big investor holders will fuck your oshi. How do we feel about this?

>> No.43243241

>>43243032
It's Series B Funding rather than full IPO.

>> No.43243244

>>43242807
Shareholders having more controls over talents and more pressure on performance
>>43243056
Oga said in his stream that Stars management has been asking them to get more YT members, so it's possible that they are trying to prove that StarsJP are worth keeping.
(Which makes me wonder, is this why some HoloEN members started giving out more member-only contents recently, too? Or is it just a coincidence?)

>> No.43243256

>>43243224
not ID unicorns unfortunately

>> No.43243258

>>43243239
I’ll swim over and chaos dunk his ass if true.

>> No.43243262
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43243262

Wait If im reading this right it says its a series B funding and not an IPO
So are they planning to go IPO next year or do they have any major projects coming up?

>> No.43243289

>>43243191
>Thinking that they don't have their proxies in JP market in form of investment firms

>> No.43243292

>>43242680
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
(((THEY))) WERE EXPECTING THIS.
THIS COULD BE THE POZZING OF VTUBING.
JUST LIKE THEY POZZED JAP ADULT SITES THAT USE WESTERN PAYMENT PROCESSORS.

SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT

>> No.43243296

>>43242982
The end of HomoSTARS?!? Is this a dream come true

>> No.43243306

>>43243224
>>43243256 (me)
oh wait there's none

>> No.43243315

>>43242680
Cover gets controlled by:
- Chinese Investors
- Westoid Investors
- or both

Final Yab imminent

>> No.43243325

>inb4 pachinko

>> No.43243355

>>43243241
and anycolor was full IPO?

>> No.43243358

>>43242680
>JP comments mostly are "Congratulations!" "nice!"
>EN comments "Oh no" "it's over"

Are we missing something here?

>> No.43243359

>>43243315
Expect a mixed gen soon

>> No.43243361

>>43243262
It says in the article that they are building new studio and also need equipment. It's actually great news.

>> No.43243366

>>43243262
Holofes?
EN concert?

>> No.43243371

>>43242680
This means that their number one priority will no longer be their fans, but their stock investors. It's literally over.

>> No.43243374

They did this in 2020 it's more funding not IPO
They get to choose

>> No.43243377

>>43243292
JAV is deranged and controlled by Korea.

>> No.43243386

I seriously hope it's not public.

If China invests in Holo, does that mean they'll give up on Niji? or at least reduce EN?
So the rumors of B2 broadcasting HoloFes4 and Genshin perms becoming true?

It would also explain why NijiEN gave up on AR....knowing consolidation is to come. And some NijiEN members knowing and taking a break, not just due to 'covid'

>> No.43243389

False Alarm everyone it's not IPO its Series B Funding:
Series B funding is a type of investment that a startup company can receive in order to grow and expand its business. It typically occurs after the initial startup phase, once the company has achieved some level of success and demonstrated its potential for growth.

During a Series B funding round, the company will seek to raise additional capital from investors in exchange for equity or ownership in the company. The funds raised in a Series B round are typically used to further develop the product or service, expand the team, and scale the business.

In order to secure a Series B investment, a startup will need to have a solid track record of growth and a clear plan for future expansion. This may include having a successful product or service, a strong team with relevant experience, and a strategy for entering new markets or expanding the customer base.

Series B investments are typically larger than the earlier rounds of funding, such as seed and Series A rounds, and may involve a more extensive due diligence process by investors. The investors who participate in a Series B round are often venture capitalists, private equity firms, and institutional investors who are looking for promising startups with the potential for high growth and a significant return on their investment.

Overall, Series B funding is an important step for a startup that has achieved some level of success and is looking to take the next step towards growth and expansion. It can provide the capital needed to develop and scale the business, while also bringing in experienced investors who can offer guidance and support.

>> No.43243391

>>43243239
Finally it's time to spend my billion dollars. Later, faggots

>> No.43243412

They need more money for their shitty games

>> No.43243416

>>43243358
Because it's not going full IPO and EOPs can't read that they need money for new studio.

>> No.43243420

>>43243361
>>43243366
Ah that makes sense probably more funding for holoearth as well

>> No.43243422

>>43243083
HAACHAMA RUN
AQUA GEAR UP YOUR CHASTITY

>> No.43243426

>smartest Holo rallies the rest of the girls to pool their resources and buy half of the stocks

>> No.43243434

The final yab has come, i don't think they can sanitize hololive even further.

>> No.43243437

>>43243358
check 5ch for nips actual opinion

>> No.43243451

>>43242680
Kikes or chinks who is gonna be faster?

>> No.43243455
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43243455

>>43243262
I like how nobody actually read the fucking link and is talking about shit they don't understand. Classic /vt/.

>> No.43243459

>>43243389
https://www.jpx.co.jp/listing/stocks/new/index.html
dude, stop coping

>> No.43243470

>>43242807
Don't worry, this time I will demand only Hags to join hololive. No more zoomers and their short attention span.

>> No.43243480

>>43243358
>EN comments "Oh no" "it's over"
Because this is never a good sign in the west

>> No.43243477

>>43243389
>During a Series B funding round, the company will seek to raise additional capital from investors in exchange for equity or ownership in the company

theres a problem there

>> No.43243485

>>43243358
Different views of the market / public listing
Similar to why nips / Asian have little issue with being corpo slaves while average murrica hates big corpos

>> No.43243513

>>43243459
those are really low shares that they are selling for something that is supposedly going public
is this some kind of scam or something?

>> No.43243526

>>43243358
JP branch is Cover's golden goose JOPs have nothing to doompost about.

>> No.43243529

>>43243477
It's impossible to function without investor money for decently sized company that wants to grow.

>> No.43243535

>>43243416
>>43243361
Didn't Yagoo say that they had enough fundings for all of their planned projects for the next 10 years just last year? Why do they need more fundings now? Where did all those money go? To Stars and HoloEarth?

>> No.43243544

Does this mean that Cover will drop the no-politics rule and have talents openly support lgbt?

>> No.43243552

riku is going to buyout Cover and make it a Nijibranch

>> No.43243551

>>43243027
They will rot cover from within, making way for their own private corp

>> No.43243573

>>43243535
Expansion. COVER is a software developer, remember?

>> No.43243575

>>43243239
easy. i scrounge up all the money i can, become a major shareholder, and rape my oshi. then i lose all the money i just invested as pekora kills herself the next day from the trauma i've inflicted on her.

>> No.43243581

>>43243535
It's all going into buying condoms for Vesper. Dealing with Magni's and Kronii's pregnancies is enough trouble.

>> No.43243584

>>43243529
and its impossible to keep the everyone within the company when investors want infinite growth

>> No.43243583

>>43243544
You should kill yourself either way.

>> No.43243591

>>43243296
hey don't mistake me for a tempisister.
not all low performing talent is a stars, especially outside JP

>> No.43243595

Oh no no no holobros

>> No.43243600

>>43242982
They've been doing that way before IPO anon...

>> No.43243610

>>43243358
>Japs are submissive cowards towards any sort of authority/power
woah wtf it’s not as based as animeland told me?

>> No.43243619

>>43243477
Cover had private investors before hololive was a thing.
Yagoo had to take a pay cut because they weren't happy about how he handled the China situation.

>> No.43243625

>>43243513
Anycolor did the same.
They only sold about 3% or their total stock at frist.

>> No.43243627

>>43243535
The investment plans totals to around 2 billion yen, new studio, equipment, etc.

>> No.43243628

>>43243315
yay now we'll have a vtuber corpo owned by
blackrock or ccp or Mohammad Bin Salman peace be upon him

>> No.43243637

>>43243389
Forgive my ignorance, but that sounds like they are offering equity in exchange for money so functionally what is the difference?

>> No.43243692

>>43243600
Niji got it worse after IPO listing
>Merged branch
>Waves of graduations
>No more 100k=get 3D

>> No.43243696

>Deflection starting already
Sad. There really are paid shills here.

>> No.43243697

>>43243470
Holy based. Hololive is saved.

>> No.43243700

>>43242680


Not good news desu. Going 'public' means accepting the pozzed dick of bureaucracy in your business. The only halfway decent companies today are all privately traded ones.

>> No.43243706

GAME OVER MAN, GAME FUCKING OVER

>> No.43243711

>>43242680
Nah, they're listing themselves on the Growth Market. Cursory research indicates that the Growth Market isn't public, it's basically just them listing themselves on the market by saying "Hey, we have a lot of potential for growth, here's our plans, but we need money. Who wants in?"
Then a bunch of people throw their hats in and Cover gets to pick whose money to take.

>> No.43243716

>>43243625
its kinda low for a series b funding
i think anycolor sold a lot more when they did it

>> No.43243738

>>43243535
He said he has enough money to maintain operations for a decade if youtube were to go kaput, not that he has enough money to fund all projects

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43243757

>only selling 1,500 public shares.
oh nyo!

>> No.43243765

>>43243692
None of the things you said happened after the IPO.
>No more 100k=get 3D
Literally false
What are you smoking, anon?

>> No.43243770

>>43243358
JP twitter for suspensions and sickness and terminations and mistakes are all just bullshit like "It can't be helped".
They're a doormat race in public that turn into sociopaths when given anonymity.

>> No.43243775

>>43242680
ooo now private money going in,
they'll demand results.
irony.
Gura 100% will stay as face
the rest of EN, who knows
HAHHAHAHAHAA

>> No.43243778

Kek it's over

going public = catering to normie overton-approved interests. get ready for black and trans chuubas

>b-but muh based Japan

stop getting your news from 4chan. Japan is pushing LGBT shit hard

>> No.43243789

>>43243757
all me

>> No.43243798

>>43243355
yes

>> No.43243799

>>43243535
MORE HOMO 3,4,5,6,7 BABY
ACCERELATE!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.43243803

>>43243765
Explain Hana?

>> No.43243805

>>43242807
Cover is now beholden to stockholders, and stockholders don’t care about the quality of products, only that they keep making money with as little investment as possible.

>> No.43243828

>>43243535
>Where did all those money go? To Stars

The fact /vt/ unironically and genuinely believes the company pours all their money into Holostars is so fucking bizarre.

>> No.43243832

Can I now shill enough money to get a chance to have sex with Fubuki?

>> No.43243837

>>43243216
"investors" are the biggest leeches on the planet who go their whole lives without working a day, retard

>> No.43243849

>>43243775
They already had private investors since before Hololive even existed, retard.
Also, if your retarded doomposting would come true, the first ones on the chopping block would be stars.

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43243856

This must be at least some of the "sad news" several ENs had alluded to. People said that was just about her outfit but IIRC multiple people had talked about changes coming. Kiara had mentioned maybe people "won't notice it" but it's still a change and this sounds like pretty much exactly that - if they're tweaking things behind the scenes of what they go for and present and such it won't be outwardly visible on the surface, and after shit like 2 male EN gens in a row they already broke the mold for what we were expecting they'd do.

>> No.43243871

>>43243619
and its going to get worse, yagoo isn't going to have much of a say in the future

>> No.43243878

>>43243770
And how many suspensions have you overturned with your petulant whining, America Man?

>> No.43243877

>>43243828
Something is keeping the boys financially afloat and it sure as fuck isn't the boys.

>> No.43243898

>>43243637
Cover already got private investors

>> No.43243907

>>43243828
I was joking, though, and I'm under impression that most of the "Stars took all the money" posts were shitposts, too. The investment and upkeep cost for chuubas are minimal

>> No.43243909

I will get into cover's board of directors and demand pekomiko collabs

>> No.43243916

>>43243389
Okay, I'm probably behind my /biz/ reps but from what I remember, Series B means that it's not a free for all in terms of selling stocks and they can pick and choose who they sell to. This usually means that the company is either going full IPO like anykara or just using it for funding purposes which I guess makes sense since they supposedly just created another studio for 3d shit, and I guess HoloEarth is a thing. Can anybody correct me if I missed anything?

>> No.43243922

Well, now we can see actual numbers instead of made-up ones on here. I honestly expected them to do it later since Nijisanji is kinda collapsing at the moment.

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43243925

>>43243711
so basically shark tank but with way more sharks?

>> No.43243931

Potential fund partner
Especialy tech indutries
>Microsoft
>Sony
>Blackrock
>SquareEnix co ltd
>Bushiroad
>Kadokawa
>CIA

>> No.43243932

>>43243856
The sad news Kiara alluded to was that Huke wasn't making her new outfit. No other EN talked about sad news. Try another shitposting angle.

>> No.43243936

>>43243856
I'm glad I've left like a year ago

>> No.43243943

>>43243637
They can choose who gets to buy in, as opposed to anyone who wants to being able to. Just because they are given an offer for some funding doesn't mean they have to accept if they are weary of the source.

>> No.43243947

>>43242680
No more shota and loli crimes on oozora police. Everyone is going to be forced to behave.

>> No.43243950

>>43243871
At least for JP branch that could mean they cut the homos loose to focus on more girl's merch. The Dino Gura plushie was their best-ever selling item, right? So logically they'd want to try to arrange things to produce more stuff like that in the future.

>> No.43243966

>>43243877
They definitely earn enough from SC / members to keep themselves float, anon (not counting merch since we don't have any concrete merch number).

>> No.43243965

>>43243459
>>43243477
>>43243637
Series B Funding is where they can pick and choose an investor and will share only some of the programs and assets. They've done this before back in 2020 and it's essentially used for funding big projects.

To give an example Cover did this back in 2020.

>> No.43243978

>>43243856
Kiara calling it sad confuses me. On one end, this is very likely good for her, if you catch my drift; on the other, the damage it can do to Hololive as a whole would make sense for it be considered bad news.

>> No.43243992

>>43243765
So KR and ID isn't merged?
IN is not dissolved?

>> No.43243993

>>43242680
its over

>> No.43243995

>>43243778
Its literally not rumaoo cope harder retard

>> No.43244010

Gura will be forced to grow tits

>> No.43244021

>>43243965
Shit why did I repeat myself whoops

>> No.43244029

>>43243922
>Collapsing

This is your brain on /vt/.

>> No.43244035

>>43243925
Hi sharks, my name is Anonymous. I'm here today to seek $500,000 for a 10% equity stake inmy new vtuber agency called "HERE". The concept is simple, we take all the /here/chuubas under one umbrella so people all over the internet can find a chuuba that knows their preferences and speaks their language.

>> No.43244046

herro eberiwan
i have sell 30 paasento to burakkorokko and 30 paasento to tensento
purease enjoi genshin impakuto haishin onegaishimasu

>> No.43244048

>>43243965
Dude, read the fucking website I posted

>> No.43244063

>>43244010
This crime cannot go unchecked...

>> No.43244093
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43244093

>>43243241
and the biggest buyer ARE THESE GUYS

>> No.43244101

buy now or wait for the dip?

>> No.43244106

>>43243965
Wait, so they did this before? Got a sauce on that? If so then I guess this is normal? Also, would your average joe be able to get in on this or is this just for the big shot companies?

>> No.43244113

>>43243757
>公募 ・ 売出しの別
>公募 1,500,000 株
>売出し(引受人の買取引受による売出し)10,927,400 株
>売出し(オーバーアロットメントによる売出し) 1,864,100 株
Some of you are geniune retarded

>> No.43244114

>>43243856
>new studio
>bad news
I thought enfags were crying about lack of 3d support for en

>> No.43244122

>>43243925
Basically, yeah.

>> No.43244130

>>43242807
Cover is going to change into a Vietnamese sweatshop overnight, the EN girls are fucked.

>> No.43244152

>>43243027
>Certain investors will mandate the company to change
that's not how shareholders work

>> No.43244158

>>43244010
>Pedos will finally leave
I don't see the problem

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43244160

>>43244093
No, these guys

>> No.43244169

>>43243803
She fucking got her model on Nijifes, are you blind or something?

>> No.43244187

>>43242680
dying market, not worth investing

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43244206

>>43244160
>not

>> No.43244221

Holo is opening massive new studio in April and the size is apparently
>新スタジオの面積:4,914.20㎡

>> No.43244222

>>43243978
If you believe investors means caring about profits over all, then the EN branch would get closed and Kiara would be out of a job. So that wouldn't be good news for her, presumably.

>> No.43244241

>>43244222
Kiara makes the most superchat income out of the entire EN branch.

>> No.43244242

>>43243922
It series B, it not going to public.

>> No.43244244

>>43244106
No the average Joe wouldn't be able to get in on this. Instead of being bought by the highest bidder their picking and choosing themselves so unless your a billionaire than no.

>> No.43244248

Suddenly Gura buys all the stocks and runs cover oh nyo

>> No.43244274

>>43244222
depends on the investors types
woke investors are a thing

>> No.43244277

>>43242680
how does stock work? can I vote for a lewd stream of my oshi?

>> No.43244284

>>43243931
>Bushiroad
They been sponsoring cover for so long.

>> No.43244285

>>43243932
Wrong, Axel talked about it.

>> No.43244289

>>43244248
she'd just dissolve the company so no one has to stream ever again

>> No.43244291

>>43244222
>ESG

>> No.43244328

>>43244289
You mean dissolve stars to focus on girls

>> No.43244330

>>43244277
I would vote for more homocollab

>> No.43244336

>>43244242
where does this stupid narrative come from?
https://www.jpx.co.jp/listing/stocks/new/cg27su000000198z-att/03COVER-1s.pdf
It writes 申請のための有価証券報告書 on the literal first page.

>> No.43244338

>>43244291
>fauna become the face of the company
kek

>> No.43244340

>>43244221
Might be even as big as crazy augmented reality shenanigans like the OTK studio has.

>> No.43244355

>>43242680
I can't feel good about this. I have a bad hunch over any kind of stock market related news and the corpo shill part of COVER is my least liked aspect of holo chuubas.

>> No.43244358

>>43243803
she is mentally ill and cancelled her own 3D over "the thing"

>> No.43244390

>>43244336(me)
My fault, it should be 新規上場申請のための有価証券報告書

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43244391

>>43242680
I'm here to grudge post you lemao
>>43239501

>> No.43244429

>>43244274
America and Canada are excluded. The nips aren't complete retards, thankfully.

>> No.43244431

>>43244328
she doesn't give one shit about the girls now, why would that change

>> No.43244440

>>43244336
>>43244390
>initial listing
>series b
so its either going to be ipo by the end of the year or next year or them doing another big project?

>> No.43244454

>>43244274
They most likely pick long time sponsor

>> No.43244457

>>43244431
She likes women

>> No.43244497

>>43244429
chinks?

>> No.43244504

>>43244440
THERE IS NO SERIES B
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1626479300424921088
It's just straight-up IPO you moron

>> No.43244523

>>43244440
You have to put your shit on a list of things people can invest in for people to, you know, see that they can invest in the company.

>> No.43244533

>>43244391
They not going public anon, the did it even when hololive first create.

>> No.43244540

>>43244277
yes unironically, if you have enough shares. But it's not IPO yet.

>> No.43244543

for the people that apparently can't read
>>43243389

>> No.43244547

>>43244440
Expanding the existing two studios, building a third one for EN/ID, more funding for HoloEarth.

>> No.43244552

Current studio size: 824.80㎡
New studio size opening in April:4,914.20㎡

>> No.43244568

>>43244242
Technically it's worse than going public, as public shares work like trust found, As long as cover has the majority of shares, shareholders can't make decisions. And series b founding works as pick and choose investor, most of the time highest amount of money wins, and they have ability to dictate their terms, cause it's more like private investment

>> No.43244595

>>43244221
I see. So this is why they really need additional funding... GOOD

>> No.43244600

>>43244457
lol, you wish unikek

>> No.43244606

>>43244504
>IPO with that low shares
either thats a scam or a retarded ipo

>> No.43244608

>>43242680
Time to become a shareholder and request the access to the girls. Goods should be inspected after all, guhuhuhu.

>> No.43244626

>>43244285
Did he clarified the sad news? I remember a schizo poster saying to had insider info and someone was gonna graduate in the middle of march or something like that

>> No.43244633
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>>43244035
>/here/ chuubas
they look pretty menhera, anon. and my chuuba expert told me all the 'successful' /here/ chuubas have already flown the coop. I am taking a huge risk here; the best i can do is 50 bucks store credit.

>> No.43244657

So it sounds like this is unequivocally good news and just means more money for a studio.

>> No.43244661

>>43244606
But IT IS IPO
I don't even know where does this series B narrative come from, like in their own tweet they said 東京証券取引所グロース市場への新規上場

>> No.43244672

>>43242807
Doing an IPO or being bought by a publicly traded publisher consistently ruins video game studios, why would it be any different for a vtubing company?

>> No.43244682

>>43242838
You say that now.

>> No.43244684

>>43244504
https://cover-corp.com/news/detail/20230217_notice_a/
Its the same shit they pulled back in 2020

>> No.43244686

>>43244391
>Nijisanji and Vshojo crumbling down before our own eyes
>Hololive so stable and successful that it's going to receive large investments for a new studio and equipment
what a grudgepost

>> No.43244688

>>43244552
Do they really need a 5 times bigger extra studio? I can't imagine myself how could they use it considering how badly little of their current space they use.

>>43244543
>>43244504

>> No.43244692

>>43244657
If they fail to meet investor expectations then the REAL fun times begin.

>> No.43244706

>>43243877
Yes it is. They pay for their projects and lives just like everyone else. Aruran isn't even one of the big earners and he streams full time and can support himself doing so. Their merch sells out all the time. Not even the big concerts are funded by the girls, they're sponsored.

>> No.43244718

>>43244684
NO ITS NOT
read this
https://cover-corp.com/news/detail/20230217_notice_c

>> No.43244720

>>43244661
>>43244684

>> No.43244746

It's not full IPO you fucking neanderthals. Don't worry, no chinkbugs or SA murderer billionaires are going to dictate how Cover runs their business anytime soon.

>> No.43244751

>>43244688
They now can produce even better prerecorded lives on their own

>> No.43244765

>>43244718
biz reps
it literally is

>> No.43244766

>>43242680
Is this good or bad? I know nothing about company stocks.

>> No.43244789

>>43244688
Yes if they want to have multiple recording rooms.

>> No.43244796

>>43244504
Your fucking stupid anon the PDF is showing their only putting in a partial amount of their shares for offer.

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>>43244552
This is the size of a 4,914.20㎡ building.
Yeah no SHIT they're going to want money to fund this.

>> No.43244814

>>43244718
ITS LITERALLY THE SAME SHIT THEY PULLED IN 2020 YOU RETARD
by god you people are retarded

>> No.43244824

>>43244765
>>43244720
>>43244796
>>43244814
then tell me, how should you fucking translate 新規上場

>> No.43244823

>>43244789
Apparently the backlog is bad enough that kiara may not be able to get a hololive for her birthday.

>> No.43244829

>>43244796
Anon, the retard you're replying to can't read Japanese.

>> No.43244847

>>43244803
You’re a big guy

>> No.43244851

>>43244766
Knowing nothing about stocks in this day and age is like willingly debuffing yourself, learn anon.

>> No.43244854

>>43244824
Have the English version than retardo
https://www.jpx.co.jp/english/listing/stocks/new/dreu2500000015lg-att/03COVER-OutlineEN.pdf

>> No.43244864

>>43244823 (me)
*sololive

>> No.43244867

lame. IPO would have been the end of cover, but it turned out nothing more than a series b fund for (0.6%) of the stocks. What a nothingburger.

>> No.43244886

>>43244504
>straight up ipo
>only partial amount of shares
>>43244824
新規上場
means they are putting up new partial sales in order to gain more money
seriously biz reps

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I'm just gonna ignore this until you fuckers stop fighting over what kind of funding this is and give the rest of us a straight answer

>> No.43244961

>>43244886
>means they are putting up new partial sales in order to gain more money
Yeah, I shouldn't except much from EOP

>> No.43244967

>>43244921
I think the consensus is that it's a series b, and we just got one guy'd

>> No.43244974

>>43244921
cover basically wants more money to invest in new stuff and is willing to part a small amount of shares for it
might be a sign of them wanting to go full ipo sometime in the near future or them wanting to do something big

>> No.43244977

>>43244803
Phfff sony hollywood/game motion capture studio in california is bigger.

>> No.43244994

>>43242807
It's literally giving power to rich numberfags.

>> No.43245000

>>43244921
Straight answer things will get better then it will get worse and Cover will be bought out by the Chinese and western media owned by Koreans will make article citing Cover as one of the symptoms of the downfall of Japan.

>> No.43245007

>>43244977
Isn’t that the main one? Also, even if not, Snoy has way, way more money.

>> No.43245011

>>43244921
It's Series B Funding. The translated English doc says their only putting like 0.6% of their shares out to offer.

>> No.43245013

>>43244961
>says the eop that cant even understand jap and has to use deeptl

>> No.43245028

>>43244977
I mean its sony. That's a high bar to clear, is it not?

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im glad I wasn't the only retard who thought it was IPO.
I had to delete twitter comments kek

>> No.43245035

>>43244977
No shit sherlock.

>> No.43245049

>>43244854
https://www.jpx.co.jp/english/listing/stocks/new/index.html
READ THIS PAGE
It literally writes New listings on TOKYO PRO Market, and how the fuck can it be a series B?
What's wrong with you guys? The whole JP internet knows its fucking IPO, and some of you are just straight-up denying reality.

>> No.43245059

It's a nothingburger everyone
disperse
disperse

>> No.43245061

>>43244824
I dont get it? Of course they are gonna have a new listing for shares since they are selling a small portion of them. How is this not a series B? or are you one of the retards who think that selling shares=ipo?

>> No.43245081

>>43242807
oh shit... Aki..

>> No.43245086

>>43244766
Basically when a company goes "public" it means they sell the ownership of the company to investors for money. The percentage of ownership is broken down into "shares". The more shares you own, the more you get to dictate what the company does. In Cover's case, this can be bad if chinks (who hate hololive) own majority shares or just dumbfuck outta touch investors pushes for dumbfuck outta touch decisions like, idk, give all the pettans massive tits cuz everyone loves massive tits, right? Right now, the consensus should be wait and see who buys but you got your doomposters doomposting and your whitepillers popping pills

This isn't a 100% perfect explanation as there are many variations on this as you can tell by the confusion in this thread.

>> No.43245089

>>43244977
They need to film their multiple movie games somewhere.

>> No.43245090

>>43244974
>cover basically wants more money to invest in new stuff and is willing to part a SMALL (.6%) amount of shares for it
>wanting to go full ipo
these 2 statements contradict each other

>> No.43245093

>>43242982
I'm a Chumbud so I'm ok

>> No.43245094

>>43244977
You know cover a startup company 5 years ago right?

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43245103

I have no fucking idea what this means for cover and hololive. someone explain this shit to a retard like me.

>> No.43245104

>ホロは少なからず上場意図が資料に書かれてたよ
>今年4月オープンの今と比べて6倍の大型スタジオ開設資金になるらしい

>> No.43245138

>>43243931
>BlackRock Shooter
good, probably the best papa in hololive

>> No.43245144

>>43245090
I'm going to put my toe in the pool
I may jump in the pool later

Where's the contradiction?

>> No.43245146

>>43245103
More and better quality 3D

>> No.43245159

>>43242680
>IPO
retard

2023 February 17
To whom it may concern:

Announcement regarding approval for initial listing on the Tokyo Stock Exchange Growth Market by Cover Corporation

Cover Corporation (Headquarters: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo; Main Office: Minato-ku, Tokyo; President and CEO: Motoaki Tanigo, hereinafter referred to as "the Company") hereby announces that its shares have been approved for initial listing on the Tokyo Stock Exchange Growth Market by the Tokyo Stock Exchange on February 17, 2023 (Friday).

The listing date on the Tokyo Stock Exchange is scheduled for March 27, 2023 (Monday). We express our sincere gratitude to all stakeholders who have supported and favored us since our founding in 2016.

Under the mission of "Creating a Culture Loved by the World," the Company has been providing services centered on VTuber production, with the aim of increasing the opportunities for creators involved in Japanese culture such as anime and games, and spreading Japanese entertainment and culture worldwide.

In the future, we will continue to strive daily to expand our business in various areas of the IP business market, such as global expansion of commerce and development of metaverse services, in addition to operating VTuber production, which is our major content. We ask for your continued support so that we can meet your expectations.

For more detailed information on the approval for initial listing, please refer to the Japan Exchange Group's website "Newly Listed Company Information."

Japan Exchange Group "Newly Listed Company Information" website:
https://www.jpx.co.jp/listing/stocks/new/

Note:
This press release has been prepared solely for the purpose of announcing the approval for initial listing of the Company's shares on the Tokyo Stock Exchange, and is not intended to solicit investments or similar activities, both within and outside Japan. When investing, please be sure to refer to the "Prospectus for the Issuance of New Shares and Sale of Shares" (including amendments) that the Company will provide and make your own investment decision. The "Prospectus for the Issuance of New Shares and Sale of Shares" (including amendments) is available from the underwriting securities company. Furthermore, this press release is not intended to solicit the sale of securities in the United States. Securities may not be offered or sold in the United States absent registration under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended (the "Securities Act"), or an exemption from registration under the Securities Act.

>> No.43245157

>>43245090
basically it might be just them testing the waters

>> No.43245181

Just to let everyone know it's not Cover going public their doing a thing called Series B Funding where they can pick and choose an investor and will share only some of the programs and assets. They've done this before back in 2020 and it's essentially used for funding big projects.

>> No.43245183

>>43245103
Just scroll up and look at the series B explanation. The TLDR is cover need money to fund their new studio or something and is searching for more venture capitalists

>> No.43245189

>>43245090
if you don't know anything about stocks it's better to stfu than reveal that you're a dumbfuck.

>> No.43245205

>>43245189
You're still talking though

>> No.43245207
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43245207

Ok important question
How much shares do I need to buy in order for Cover to send me pics of Watames feet?

>> No.43245206

>>43242851
roberu and the rest of Tempus will remain and the rest will get FUCKED

>> No.43245212

They're selling a small amount of shares to raise funds for the biggest fucking VTuber studio in Japan.
It's perfectly normal, Otherwise they'd have to use other funds to do it.

>> No.43245213

>>43244391
ha ha not today nijinigs

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>>43243931
>CIA
You know too much

>> No.43245239

Maybe they can finally set up a studios for any 3D EN/ID stuff instead of having to fly them to Japan so much. I am personally curious as to what this would bring into the future for both talents and fans. What do you think will get funded Anons?

>> No.43245241

>>43245221
OH SH—

>> No.43245257

Well if only 0.6% of their shares, I'm relieved.

A great time to go for it, with the competition collapsing, another "Hololive was just lucky with timing."

>> No.43245266

>>43245207
You have better chance asking vtai for that watamate

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>>43245207
dont worry your time has come

>> No.43245308

>>43245257
vshojos going to make just as much money tomorrow as it did yesterday bud

>> No.43245317

>>43242927
Blackcock lost 1.5 TRILLION this year and is laying off 500 employees. Hopefully that'll keep them distracted enough such that this small nip company slips through the cracks. Hopefully.

>> No.43245320

The opposite problem occurs whenever something happens to Anycolor's stock price. You have people acting like a dip means less money for projects.

>> No.43245332

>>43245270
This is going to be like the r/hololive subreddit. A corpo moderated hugbox that no one needed in the first place

>> No.43245336

>>43245308
cope

>> No.43245355

People are saying Stars are gonna get shitcanned like Niji, but in reality NijiID and KR didn't actually get shitcanned, the brands did, and the members got merged into NijiJP to masked their low performance. Cover is gonna do the same thing, no more Holostars brand, but the boys aren't gonna go anywhere, they'll stay under Holopro brand, shit, they might even get rebranded as Hololive.

>> No.43245403
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Expect more Gura projects

>> No.43245414

>>43245239
They’ll commission a real Miko car and hire a pro to drive it around for a promotion.

>> No.43245426

>>43245332
At the moment they rely way too much on twitter, it would pretty bad for them if twitter went down.

>> No.43245427

>>43245355
yes yes we're over this
go read the thread

>> No.43245435

>>43244391
lol, lmao even

>> No.43245440

>>43245355
>NijiID and KR didn't actually get shitcanned,
They did you are just confusing the shitcanning process of japs and the west
in the west shitcanned means fired while in japs it means you go to the broom closet
so stars getting shitcanned means theres gonna be less promotion and projects for them

>> No.43245446

>>43245257
>Public Offering /Secondary Offering
>Public Offering (Newly Issued Shares) 1,500,000 shares
>Secondary Offering (Placement Underwritten and Purchased by
Principal Underwriting Participants)10,927,400 shares
>Secondary Offering (Placement by over-allotment scheme) 1,864,100 shares

>> No.43245479

>>43245049
Did you even read the doc where the offered shares was literally less than 1% of the total issued.

>> No.43245481

>>43243027
>>43243551
>>43243805
>>43244994
woah there, cool it with the antisemitism you filthy goyim!

>> No.43245502

>>43245414
Keiichi Tsuchiya driving around a MikoPink GT-R...

>> No.43245508

>>43245336
very smart anon, good job

>> No.43245519

>>43245332
Nah, it'll be much more parasocial and I assume people will be divided according to who their oshi is, just like the generals /here/.

>> No.43245536

>>43245479
>>43245446
Read this, anon
the public offering is few, most sold by stockholders

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You gaijins think you can get pussy like mine when you aren't even doing your reps

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>> No.43245647

>>43245332
You seriously expect them to let you shit on holos in their own app? I'm amazed they even decided to have a public forum.

>> No.43245664

>>43244152
That's actually how shareholders work. They're called activist investors for a reason. And I am certain that investment firms all subscribe to the ESG crap that plagues most of the world's corporation, including Japanese ones.

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>> No.43245705

>>43242680
does this mean no more homos?

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>>43245695

>> No.43245753

>>43245705
see>>43245641

on the contrary this is more funding for the homos

>> No.43245765

>>43245705
if homos continue to be a moneysink then yeah theyre gonna get the nijikr/id treatment except without the integration and just straight up put in the broom closet or trashed

>> No.43245769

>>43245664
Don't worry, they got fauna

>> No.43245789

>>43245093
They might make her work more and she could stress and say fuck it I quit.

>> No.43245802

>>43245508
Easier than saying two of your members probably won't be streaming for a while. Which is a good percentage of your company. Plus time needed to repair image. But most importantly, I'm not talking about the present, but future Hololive will be a force to reckon with.

>> No.43245819

>>43245641
poor little retard doesn't realize this is his downfall.

>> No.43245823

>>43245753
not how it works anon since shareholders will have a say on where the money goes and its probably not going to the homos especially after tempus 2 debuts made cover lose a ton of money

>> No.43245825

>>43245633
im sorry for freaking out ojousama

>> No.43245841

>>43242747
no, it's cover

>> No.43245875

>>43245823
it's .6% of the shares anon, yagoo will say where the funding goes lol

>> No.43245926

>>43245875
yagoo will have the final say but the investors always have sway anon since yagoo will want them to invest again

>> No.43245937

>>43245823
I'm sure Yagoo's golfing buddies will try and boss him around with their newfound negligible equity in his company.

>> No.43245940

>>43245875
No, its 23.4%

>> No.43245958

>>43245875
That never works out. It's finished.

>> No.43245970

>>43245937
assuming that it is his golfing buddies

>> No.43246001

>>43245940
its actually 5%

>> No.43246034

>>43245802
>Easier than saying two of your members probably won't be streaming for a while
Your source for that being? Pulled it out of your ass?

>> No.43246048

>>43242680
PAUL LI TAKE OVER! It's over guys...

>> No.43246089

>>43242807
There’s literally only one reason to do this and it’s to sell their bags to poor suckers like you. Cover is dead. Nijisanji is dead. Watch indies instead.

>> No.43246136

>>43246034
cope

>> No.43246147

>>43245970
If they can cherry pick who they sell to, may as well be.

>> No.43246148

>>43246001
Depending on how you calculated.
The total offering stock is 1,500,000+10,927,400+1,864,100 = 14,291,500
And the total stock of Cover at that time will be 61,124,200
Which is 23.38%
But if you used the 発行可能株式総数 230,000,000 as a total, it's 5%

>> No.43246213

Wait couldn't Hiroshimoot invest in cover

>> No.43246232

>cover goes IPO
real shit?
>is actually series b funding
i sleep

>> No.43246279

>>43243925
I thought a lot of /vt/ anons love sharks?

>> No.43246290 [SPOILER] 
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>>43242680
Guess who's gonna buy most of the shares?

>> No.43246421

>>43243535
No, he said they had the money to keep going how they are for the next 10 years.
Hololive is going to get much bigger from now on.
Even bigger than Pokemon in the next 10 years.

>> No.43246427

So 23% is a lot bigger than 5%. Which way of calculating better corresponds to most people's sense of how much control this is?

>> No.43246435

Okay time to clear things up for the retards.
IPO means initial public offering. Topix rules that x amount of shares be held by individual investors. (Don't remember off the top of my head, but x is probably around 30-50%). Fail to meet this requirement and you're kinda forced into privatization (it's complicated). IPOs in Japan require 監査 for a minimum of 2 years (unless you do speed IPO by paper company BO which is currently getting patched out by regulations), and this usually costs millions of dollars and is a massive headache. I can confirm 2 things, they got the OK from Topix for growth market IPO, and news sources in Japan say they're looking to IPO 3/27. I haven't read the Topix doc (I'm fluent jp) but I verified it exists. I didn't see an IR release on covers website, so no direct confirmation, but there's virtually no company that doesn't IPO after getting Topix OK because it's a massive waste of resources to do so.
I say, 0% chance they don't IPO, and the tards saying it's series B (which has nothing to do with IPOs or Topix) are misreading and being retarded.

>> No.43246485

>>43246290
You mean FRIEND is going to do it.

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>>43246421
>Even bigger than Pokemon in the next 10 years.
ok anon, open wide

>> No.43246506

>It's an IPO!
>Umm no, it's actually Series B!
WHICH ONE IS IT?

>> No.43246509

>>43243757
Read again retardchama, it's 1,500 thousands, so 1 and a half million.

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43246516

>>43244977
> Hololive is big enough to be compared to fucking Hollywood and Sony now

>> No.43246523

>>43243877
It is the boys lmao.
Their merch sells out, they get enough SC's and memberships to keep themselves afloat.
Deny it or call it cope all you want, they're doing the work themselves.

>> No.43246541

>>43244977
This might be one of the stupidest posts I've ever read on this website.

>> No.43246543

>>43245317
>1.5 TRILLION
Literally fucking nothing in the grand scheme of how much wealth groups like this own.

>> No.43246557

Also 発行可能株式総数 has nothing to do with anything. It's dictated by 定款 which is like articles of incorporation, and its just the amount of stock a company can sell off. This is also changeable with a quick 定款変更, and it's merely an upper limit that for the most part serves no purpose because most companies never reach anywhere near the upper limit, it's mostly a formality.

>> No.43246588

>>43246427
23% will be more correct because the 5% was calculated based on the potential total stock they can ever sell (I don't know the exact translation of that word)

>> No.43246603

>>43246496
I admit it's waaay too much of a "dreamer" time statement.
But I stand by it.

>> No.43246642

>>43243931
This is what Hololive execs would sound like to all of those companies:
https://youtu.be/LMmdl4VltD4

>> No.43246653

>>43246543
9.5 trillion assets under management. Now it's 8 due to losses. That's worrying, even for them.

>> No.43246654

>>43245823
Point to me where their debuts lost them money?
Cover pays for the model only, and literally anybody, yes, even Niji, yes, even the boys, pay off the model as soon as they open monetization and memberships.
After that anything and everything is straight up plus profit for Cover since they pay for literally nothing in regard to what a talent wants to do (concerts, covers, PC's / tech etc)

>> No.43246663

Elon musk need to buy cover

>> No.43246694

>>43243877
You must be actually retarded to think they don't make ROI

>> No.43246722

surely this is out of season joke...
also how do i invest if not living in jpn

>> No.43246728

>>43246435
>>43246557
Does this mean anything?

>> No.43246743

>>43246516
Cosidering Riku is a Billionaire, Hololive definitely pulls insane numbers.

>> No.43246772

>>43246694
enjoy your moneypit while it lasts.

>> No.43246776

>>43246728
In short, it's IPO, not series B like some retard keeps crying about

>> No.43246799

>>43242680
its a public listing. They want someone to buy out the company from Yagoo

>> No.43246843

>>43246776
I mean, is this person correct, or full of it?

>> No.43246896
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>>43246516
Are you stupid? Do you know how much money you need to make to be featured in Forbes?
You retards have no idea those anime girls playing videogames have earned a networth of hundreds of millions of dollars, all adding from events, music, advertising, YT revenue, sponsor... earning big money every single day.

>> No.43246905

are they just asking Bushiroad or Softbank to finance whatever project they want to commit?

>> No.43246910

>>43246843
Its a series B due to the low amount of shares they are selling
Anon is just a retard who thinks selling shares automatically equates to going public IPO

>> No.43246941

>>43246905
more or less

>> No.43246957

>>43246910
How 23.38% is a low amount, tell me
And series B doesn't need to be trading on public market, moron

>> No.43246969

>>43246957
Its 5%
>>43246148

>> No.43246974

Okay so I just read the official IR release from cover in original jp and it's pretty straightforward. It's IPO set for 3/27 no doubt about it. You can purchase shares post-IPO off of Topix assuming your broker has access.
Protip: don't buy for a few months, every IPO in Japan has a pump and dump scheme just after IPO or a little after. It's just the pre-IPO institutional investors that are changing money and getting gullible individual investors on the hype train (see: any color stock movements). If you want to make money, watch and see for 4ish months then buy in. If you're smart you can time the dump with the preIPO guys by shortselling at the top, but that's risky.
This is NOT financial advice. Everything posted above is not to be taken seriously.
t. invests preIPO

>> No.43246988

>>43246969
Read this, retard
>>43246557

>> No.43246987

OK so it's pretty much an IPO, but why are they only selling 0.6% to 20% of their shares or so? How many shares percentagewise did Anycolor sell? I need a comparison here.

>> No.43246997

>>43246957
>And series B doesn't need to be trading on public market, moron
It can if you are looking for venture capitalists

>> No.43247016

is the HoloAnime finally happening?

>> No.43247029

>>43246997
Topix is a pubilc trading market, moron

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>>43246843
>Do you know how much money you need to make to be featured in Forbes?
a negative amount?

>> No.43247053

>>43247029
yes and? as i said they can do public b on a public market

>> No.43247088

>>43247016
Not when the Chinese, Koreans, and Globohomos are buying up 80% of the shares

>> No.43247093

I like how nips both in 5ch and out of it (such as on twitter) all confirm it's an IPO and literally /here/ is the only place that is trying to claim it isn't.
>Muh series B
You can do series B and stay Private like back in 2020.
There's no reason to go public if all they're doing is Series B, stop coping.

>> No.43247101

>>43247053
THERE IS NO PUBLIC B IN JAPAN
Also what the fuck is a public b even begin with?

>> No.43247121

>>43246910
Selling shares is pretty much an IPO. But what's bewildering is the report that it's only really a quarter of their shares that are going public.

>> No.43247126

>>43247093
>There's no reason to go public if all they're doing is Series B, stop coping.
How so? Is it illegal for them to go public with series B?

>> No.43247142

The JOPs probably think we're retarded, and they're not wrong

>> No.43247158

>>43247121
>a quarter
It will be more after some big holders start selling their part, just like Anycolor

>> No.43247169

>>43247093
Not like knowing japanese actually solves this argument.

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>more shit to numberfag about

>> No.43247179

The JOPs' oshi is Kuzuha why should I trust them?

>> No.43247192

>>43247088
Its illegal for non-japanese foreign investors to buy Japanese stocks

>> No.43247203

>>43247121
Yeah thats what confuses me also since if this is an IPO then there would be more initial shares that would be sold.
It kinda feels like some kind of scam.

>> No.43247206

>>43245207
There is one picture of her feet on Twitter though.

>> No.43247211

>>43247192
TSE is global you fucking imbecile

>> No.43247218

>>43247169
>Gaijin knowing Japanese understand a Japanese news better than literal Japanese
Yeah, sure anon. I believe you.

>> No.43247219

>>43245205
nice come back
if I wanted my cum back, id wipe it off your face

>> No.43247233

>>43247203
Because it probably is but it won't stop people from buying them anyways.

>> No.43247247

>>43247218
i mean it kinda applies the same to you as well

>> No.43247264

>>43247211
you literally cannot buy Japanese stocks if your dummy company is not run by a Japanese person.

>> No.43247270

So this isn't a series B, but it's not a normal IPO, it's a vaguely scammy IPO. I feel like this us becoming less clear by the minute.

>> No.43247289

>>43247264
Explain why Anycolor's IPO was bought largely in part by ravenous chinks then

>> No.43247297

>>43247264
if Ken-sama could, you could too!

>> No.43247307

>>43247289
dummy company
that and the company has always been in bed with the chinks since their failed cabaret project

>> No.43247320

>>43247270
Yep. A quarter of their shares are public. Anyone around the world can buy them.

>> No.43247327

>>43247289
it wasn't

>> No.43247337

/biz/ armchair businessmen who read some jargon on wikipedia are trying to tell everyone what's happening but they don't know either because Japanese people don't the same terms Americans do

>> No.43247355

>>43247289
It wasn't though
Both the bilibili dummy and the one belongs to Lenovo were already their stockholder before IPO

>> No.43247364

>>43247270
Thats the reason why people are confuse the size of the shares looks like a Series B but they are somehow naming it an IPO

>> No.43247372

>>43247307
>its illegal for non-japanese foreign investors to buy Japanese stocks
>but the chinks bought up anycolor's shares like hotcakes anyways
Same is happening to Cover lamo

>> No.43247378

Series B and any other 'series' refers to private placements ie, a purchase made directly from current shareholders. There's no such thing as a 'public' series, because being public means any individual investor can purchase or sell your stock. IPO is short for initial public offering, meaning the first time a company has ever offered stock publicly, ie to individual investors. You cannot sell stock to individual investors without going through TOPIX in Japan. An individual investor can however, meeting certain capital requirements become an accredited investor, and purchase stocks privately as an individual (without using a legal entity). Series (which are private placements, usually leading to an IPO but not always) don't need to go through TOPIX because they are private placements, and by law can only deal with accredited investors or legal entities.
In short, it's an IPO and anyone can buy it and sell it after 3/27. Yagoo will likely remain a major shareholder (most keep 30%) but that doesn't mean it's not public.
Finally, according to the IR statement made directly by cover, there was no mention of a series B, only an IPO (which is 上場 in jp). There would be no need to get an okay from Topix for a series B. retards. Also my JP sources are all saying it's an IPO and there's literally no confusion about it.

>> No.43247384

>>43245270
I had a hunch they might make a Mastodon instance or do something like this.

>> No.43247396

>>43247364
Selling a quater of your compnay is nowhere near small, anon
I don't even know how they come up with the fucking .5%

>> No.43247395

>>43247372
see
>>43247355

>> No.43247398

>>43247337
yeah, it's illegal by law for Japanese stocks to be traded directly by foreign investors. It's the reason why their national debt only circle around domestically

>> No.43247422

>>43247395
Proof next thread?

>> No.43247472

>>43247398
What is this cope you're making up?

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>>43247396

>> No.43247485

>>43245743
> Kizuna AI

Stop reading

>> No.43247504

>>43247126
See >>43247378
However, there's also the option this is some crackpot scam that Yagoo managed to cook up that other anons are now thinking.

>> No.43247532

>>43247422
its on their site anon

>> No.43247538

>>43247396
They probably went new issued shares vs total share authorized. Though the newly issued shares are only ~2.5%.

Most of the sales are in the secondary offerings.

>> No.43247545

>>43247472
nah you're just retarded

>> No.43247550

>>43244803
Cover estimates cost of $20 million USD for the new studio (total cost).

>> No.43247569

>>43247532
Where?

>> No.43247586

25% wouldn't even be influential on any decision by Cover, considering that 25% isn't even held by one single individual or entity.

>> No.43247603

>>43247545
Saudis and SNK
Tencent with just about every fucking technology company in Japan
Explain nigga, explain

>> No.43247638

>>43247378
I think they were forced to go public technically because insider trading is illegal in Japan. They're probably just want to ask Softbank some Japanese shekels

>> No.43247649

Let's start by defining the terms — “Series funding” is not a term. There are two types of shares that a company can issue: common shares and preferred shares, When you start a company the founders “purchase” common shares from the company. When real investors come with cash they insist of getting preferred shares as they have special privileges (anti-dilution rights, board representation rights, various veto rights and right to take money off the table if the company is sold called liquidation preferences).

When you issue preferred shares at a certain price and with certain rights, you name is Series A shares (just so that you can differentiate them from new shares you will issue in the future). These additional shares (to be issued later) at a different price and with a new set of restrictions or rights, will be called Series B or C or D as the times goes on.

The company is still private and its details are not made public. Usually, the investors (VC firms) will tell people that they invested in you on their website and you may also want to do the same but only the amount is mentioned. Some companies (CrunchBase or VentureBeat) will “guess” the pre-money valuation and will publish it (not always correct but they do that).

Only when a company decides to go public (or has more than 500 shareholders) it is obligated to publish its details about the finances.

>> No.43247681

>>43247638
>insider trading is illegal in Japan
No it's not

>> No.43247716

>>43247681
>Insider trading is specifically prohibited by Articles 166 and 167 of the Financial Instruments and Exchange Act (FIEA).

>> No.43247727

>>43247681
https://www.jpx.co.jp/english/regulation/comlec-publication/publication/b5b4pj000000wgw5-att/b5b4pj000000wh03.pdf
https://www.fsa.go.jp/common/law/fie02.pdf

>> No.43247729

>>43247716
IN AMERICA, not Japan

>> No.43247737

>>43247638
There's nothing can FORCED a company to go public, anon.

>> No.43247741

>>43247483
numberfag here, this is kek

>> No.43247764

>>43247729
????

>> No.43247768

When you raise money from Venture Capitalists (VCs) for your startup company they insist on getting “preferred shares”. These are called preferred since they have special privileges attached to them that give VCs the control, information and veto rights, first dibs on the money if the company is sold (liquidation preferences) and other special treatments (founders get “common” shares when they start the company.

First time, when a company raises money from VC, the shares company sells to them are called Series A shares (to separate them from common shares at founding). A few months later (typically between 18–24 months) when the company has achieved some milestones and hopefully has increased its value, it may be time to raise additional funds from the VCs. These shares will be at a different price and may have different terms and conditions attached to them (Preferences) so they cannot be called the sames name as the shares previously issued. So we call them Series B shares.

A company can end up selling Series C, D and sometimes E, & F shares if they continue to raise more money (like Uber did).

But these names also have other meaning. They communicate to others the stage a company is at and its maturity level. e.g. a Series A is raised typically for product development and Series B to start product deployment, and Series C for scaling. So if a company is raising Series C and still does not have a product or customers it raises certain eye brows and an explanation is expected.

>> No.43247783

>>43247727
Well then Cover is in deep shit because Bilibili positioned themselves suddenly for something if they got inside info of this beforehand and they want as much shares as possible.

>> No.43247804

Search this: 平均公開株数
You guys are retarded. Most IPOs fall in the 15~40% in jp. This is fairly standard. Retards. If they're IPOing they've been under constant surveillance for over 2 years by a third party 監査法人 you fucking mongrels. Stay poor

>> No.43247806

>>43247681
lol the sonic guy got busted twice in a single month

>> No.43247819

>>43247729
https://www.fsa.go.jp/common/law/fie02.pdf
anon you retard insider trading is illegal in japan

>> No.43247853

25% shares isn't enough to breath the same air as YAGOO.

>> No.43247878

>>43247804
I'm sure you reading about finance on Wikipedia has made you rich

>> No.43247891

>>43242680
You know what the stock market likes the most right now?
Trannies.
They hate loly too.
Miku saying nigga ? No more.

>> No.43247919

>>43247804
wait so its not an ipo since its less?

>> No.43247928

As long as I can see my oshi, I don't care if Bin Laden Putin and Sadam Hussein had shares in Cover.

>> No.43247969

Insider trading is by definition only possible on public companies, because it fucks over individual investors. All sale of unlisted stocks (ie private placements) are thus by definition NOT insider trading. You fucking retarded imbeciles. Any investment made before 3/27 is fair game, and it's called pre-IPO financing. Yes, they make ludicrous amounts of money doing this, and it's why we all fuck each other over for a shot at that sweet sweet preIPO placement, and why VC always pushes for IPO and buys shit early as possible (startup stage). Retards

>> No.43247988

>>43242807
Because NUMBERS MUST GO UP, WHY ARE THE NUMBERS NOT GOING UP, FIRE 10% OF STAFF AND SEE IF NUMBER GO UP

>> No.43247989

>>43242807
If you become a major investor, you can do whatever you want

>> No.43248010

>>43247919
23% is not "less"
What are you even saying?

>> No.43248017

>>43247878
not him but I know precious metal merchants and stock brokers that are frequenting veetee. Stay poor

>> No.43248048

>>43248017
I'm sure you do, you sound incredibly wealthy and intelligent

>> No.43248049

>>43248010
>>43247538

>> No.43248051

This IPO may legitimately be very interesting as I can only see the top buyers being Chinese, Korean, American, or Saudi. Do the Japanese even care? They couldn't even get a big share of Anycolor when they went public.

>> No.43248068

>>43248048
stay poor, SEAnigger

>> No.43248117

>>43247878
kek wikipedia is for revisionists and I'm in the industry. seethe more cryptotard, I'm sure sbf is happily dining in the Bahamas with your money
>>43247919
It is an IPO and it's about 25% which is standard and not a 'low' amount for IPOs according to statistics based in jp. I can't say for American markets

>> No.43248126

>>43248010
NTA but where are you getting this info? you can read moonrunes?

>> No.43248128

So if a whole bunch of random people collectively own less than a quarter of the company, does that loss of control actually matter all that much?

>> No.43248162

>>43248049
>>43246148
Read this first, then read this
>>43246557
aka its 23%

>> No.43248169

Won’t change anything. You’re all retarded.

>> No.43248170

>>43248049
> Public offering around 2.5%
> Secondary offering around 21%
So yeah, between 15~40%

>> No.43248194

>>43248169
Say that when Chinese, Koreans, Saudis, and Burgerkikes buy up all the shares

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jXe7JbOn2w
HAG ORGY! Come on Ruinee gold!

>> No.43248209

>>43248126
>>43248162

>> No.43248232

>>43248194
>implying they would
Cover would be love it but watch this become another stunt turned to nothing

>> No.43248242

>>43247891
>loly
This is the funniest fucking post I’ve read today

>> No.43248271

>>43248051
It's not even consequential considering that 23~24% is divvied up among the various investors. That won't be enough for them to dictate or demand anything from Cover.

>> No.43248282

>>43248232
Well it's happening either way because Hololive is the global agency of the world.

>> No.43248302

>>43248017
>rich anon kicks back after a day of cutthroat finance work and a quick meet-up with the lads at a posh bar to watch a silly girl play minecraft

>> No.43248312

>>43248128
Depends on if current stockholders cash out. IPOs boost stock price to retarded amounts and most preIPO investors cash out and sell on the market, where the buyer can be literally anyone. The only ones incentivized to hold the stock are the guys in management who can directly affect stock prices by good or poor management. The other guys have likely been waiting for years to cash out on this investment. So likely you'll see ownership change for everyone except management (yg at 30% won't budge too much I imagine) and really really bullish current holders. Markets not looking so good so I imagine ownership change will go fast. But who knows.

>> No.43248315

They're selling 23% but it'll be dividing up intil about 100,00000000 people so none of them will have any power at all.

>> No.43248397

>>43243907
I'm sure there are some retards out there believing that shitpost

>> No.43248404

>>43248315
Are you ignoring the part where they're going public so anyone holding on to their shares that wishes to sell can do so?
If enough of their current shareholders that existed pre IPO sell out, and the right chink buys it, they'll have more saying power.

>> No.43248408

>>43248302
You underestimate hololives popularity in jp. The fucking governor of Tokyo just endorsed in the nikkei Sakura Miko, everyone in Tokyo knows hololive

>> No.43248415

Can everyone buy a stock, or is it nip only?

>> No.43248420

>>43242680
CN is back on the menu

>> No.43248459

>>43248408
You underestimate hololive's popularity in Shanghai. They have city wide event for Suisei and Aqua back in 2019

>> No.43248496

>>43248459
Aren't they blacklisted there?

>> No.43248542

>>43248496
Not anymore anon. Bilibili has a lot of Hololive clips back from before and new clips too. All of the Holo anti were banned too.

>> No.43248567

>>43248496
That doesn't stop chinks from being able to buy the shares once they're public.
You literally cannot say "no you are not allowed to buy my shares"

>> No.43248649

>>43248496
Hololive/Cover is blacklisted nowhere the minute it goes public.

>> No.43248654

>>43248542
not all of them and people already found out that it was an unintetional byproduct of wolf warriors self purging after that whole chinese demonstrations debacle

>> No.43248692

>>43248459
Sorry my argument was just that tons of powerful people know about/watch hololive. Koike literally made Sakura Miko an official Tokyo representative of tourism a few days ago. And yes, there are cutthroat financers who knows and watch hololive, because anything that makes money eventually reaches our desks, especially IPOs.

>> No.43248737

>>43248654
Nice cope. Hololive is back thriving on Bilibili again and I expect them to be big share holder soon to recapture what they missed out on. Maybe just don't piss off their majority fanbase next time.

>> No.43248786

>>43248737
sure it is
just ignore the fact that some of the holofes vids got taken down

>> No.43248863

>>43248786
Proof?

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They are clearly gonna use that money to buy and preserve John Carmack so he can keep coding for them forever

>> No.43248971

I don't know about the China industry but my guess is the big shots (investors) don't give a fuck what hololive does. They have bigger problems to deal with, like their precarious housing market, or CCP kidnappings to 'help' people like Jack Ma handle their finances.
Antis might try to buy all the shares, but I doubt they have the purchasing power or coordination to affect hololives management decisions.
Just my two cents though, I could be very wrong.

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>>43248863
you got tricked into thinking that wolf warriors self purging meant that they are ok with the taiwan yab again

>> No.43249096

>>43249002
https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=holofes&from_source=webtop_search&spm_id_from=333.1007&search_source=5
?

>> No.43249113

I'm starting to believe some of you might not know what you're talking about...

>> No.43249135

>>43249096
check the dates
the recent ones that were trending go disappeared

>> No.43249166

>>43242680
retard

>> No.43249173

>>43249096
The ones that were trending had english titles anon the ones you posted are over a year old

>> No.43249185

>>43249113
Believe me, I don't understand this topic.

>> No.43249219

>>43249135
>>43249173
nta, but does this mean that hololive is still banned in cn. that's good to know.

>> No.43249264

>>43249219
from the looks of it yeah

>> No.43249323

Can holos buy stock or would that be considered insider trading?

>> No.43249365

>>43249323
More importantly, can they short the shares and then ruin everything on purpose?

>> No.43249407

>>43249323
No, companies give stocks to their employees as a bonus all the time.

>> No.43249428

https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=hololive&from_source=webtop_search&spm_id_from=333.1007&search_source=5
Hololive is not banned in China anymore you retards. Just look at the recent vids. The fandom is stronger than ever

>> No.43249476

>>43249323
Not at the time right now because a company is obliged to reaveal all their stockholder's legal names and address on IPO

>> No.43249597

>>43249428
recent vids....

>> No.43249666

>>43249428
They haven't posted anything in two years.
https://space.bilibili.com/286700005/video

>> No.43249667

>>43249428
they were never totally deleted in b2 anon but the zhangs just "controlled" the way they trended or the stuff that was posted about them

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>>43249666
Clips are up retard. They were banned a year ago.

>> No.43249733

>>43242807
you're going back to china, the shareholders demand as many customers as possible

>> No.43249749

Any zhangs anon here? Care to explain how things have developed in the past 2 years?

>> No.43249758

>>43249713
So it doesn't really matter unless Hololive themselves begin to post again.

>> No.43249791

>>43244688
They do
A few of the girls have said on stream that there's a long waiting list to use studio, so they need to book it months in advance
That problem should be solved if they make bigger studio

>> No.43249793

>>43249713
>They were banned a year ago.
they literally werent you can even see clips of son there from november/december last year
what they were doing was curtailing some of the clips in order to not make them trend or popular which is why it was a big deal when the holofes vids trended in b2 some days ago which suddenly disappeared t

>> No.43249812

>>43249749
Community is stronger than it has been in years. Many of us are buying tickets for Holofes both online and in person. The IPO news is being celebrated across NGA as a landmark event to re-introduce Hololive back to China.

>> No.43249833

ZhangAnon, Hololive will never go back to CN again, you have to let go...

>> No.43249855

>>43249833
But who's buying the shares?

>> No.43249885

>>43249812
If for example Cover did try to come back there, how do you think the government would respond?

>> No.43249888

zhangbro you have to let go even covers new statment implied that they are going to be wary of political stuff
>there are various latent factors such as differences in culture, user preferences and business practices, exchange rate fluctuations, various regulations including legal and tax systems, and economic and political instability

>> No.43249902

>>43249749
Split.
Larger portion of the split misses HL and hates what the smaller portion did.
Smaller portion is the one that started the whole taiwan hate thing to begin with.
Of course, smaller one is also louder because being loud while belonging to the other larger side can get you into trouble.

>> No.43249913

>>43249855
I don't know, and you don't know either.

>> No.43249923

>>43249855
the house saud and dodd

>> No.43249954

>>43249855
That the best part, cover can pick whoever they want.

>> No.43249970

>>43249902
I'll assume the larger portion is currently is still following HL discreetly.
What happens to the smaller portion?

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>>43249855

>> No.43249990

>>43249888
The Chinese don't care about politics in general, just politics that offend them. No one's asking them to sing the Chinese national anthem before every stream and pledge loyalty to the CCP.
>>43249902
Larger side still has sentiments with smaller side deep down.

>> No.43250003

>>43249954
Since when?
Being public means they lose the option to say "No you cannot buy my stock, sorry"

>> No.43250033

>>43249954
In an IPO you can't choose your own buyers you fucking moron. Otherwise it'd still be private which it isn't.

>> No.43250035

>>43249990
>just politics that offend them.
then thats gonna be a problem considering holo has events in the country of taiwan

>> No.43250067

>>43249990
That's not how artia acts 2 years ago though

>> No.43250111

>>43250035
No they don't, what the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.43250117

>>43250035
not for long lol

>> No.43250138

why would china still care about hololive? don't they have nijicn and their own home grown vtuber corp to worry about?

>> No.43250148

>>43250111
https://www.gamerbraves.com/hololive-en-themed-cafe-to-appear-in-taiwan/

>> No.43250158

>>43249970
Yes, they follow HL, they just don't talk openly about it because they don't know if their friend belongs to the smaller hater group or larger follower group.
What do you mean what happens to the smaller one? After IPO? It depends which of the two groups is rich.
If someone that has shares from pre-ipo days decides to sell and let's say for example, a small hater group is rich enough to buy that person's shares as well as shares offered by cover, suddenly they will have saying power and can actively demand cover to do things that will lead to self destruction, as long as they can convince other shareholders NOT yagoo to agree.
If someone from the supportive larger side happens to be the rich one then.. nothing happens I guess?

>> No.43250191

>>43250158
No no I mean is the smaller group still active in hating HL after 2 years?

>> No.43250231

>>43250138
Because they're rich enough to be allowed to care lol.
If someone that currently holds shares pre-IPO decides to sell and that person has a nice chunk, chinks can buy that + the shares offered by cover and suddenly that chink is sitting at the meeting table demanding decisions.

>> No.43250255

>>43242680
Well, hololive was already going to shit anyway...

>> No.43250269

>>43250191
Yes, but a lot of it is died down until an excuse comes to start yelling again.
I think some extreme ones still harrass Fubuki?

>> No.43250299

>>43243371
This.

>> No.43250308

>>43250269
they actually started up again when the protest thing in china was in full swing which got me confused

>> No.43250413

>>43250269
That spam harassment every time Fubuki collabs?
That one suddenly died one day around after Fubuki's anniversary last year, I think...?
But wouldn't Cover going back now start the flame again? Isn't it better to make sure everything died down first?

>> No.43250431

>>43250308
Yeah that falls under "an excuse to start yelling again"
It doesn't have to make perfect logical sense to them.

>> No.43250474

>>43242680
It's not an IPO.

>> No.43250482

>>43250413
>will cover delay making more money for the shareholders to ensure that their talents don't get harassed?
lol

>> No.43250592
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ITS OVER HOLOBRONIES YOU LOSE

>> No.43250671

>>43242680
Holo talents will be graduating in March

>> No.43250713

>>43250671
April
>>/vt/thread/S42688603

>> No.43250883

>>43250482
If Cover after the shitshow 2 years ago still wants to cater exclusively to China then sure.
They will lose trust from the rest of the world though if they just let their talent get harassed.

>> No.43250941

>>43250883
Cover only cares about money. China has the most money. You can't be serious if you think they won't dip their toes back in the Chinese market where they've had their most success yet.

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>>43242680
Oh god please no
not like this...

>> No.43251031

>>43250941
>Cover only cares about money
if that's the case holoCN would still be a thing anon.

>> No.43251092

>>43251031
HoloCN didn't make money. HoloJP in China made money, and they got forced out.

>> No.43251112

>>43250941
You're missing the risk aspect here.
You've seen what happened when they tried to put their eggs in 1 basket 2 years ago,
sure the basket is wide, but damn is it fragile as fuck

>> No.43251125

>>43251031
HoloCN wasn't even popular in China newfag. HoloJP had more Chinese fans than Japanese fans before Coco incident

>> No.43251181

>>43251112
Anything for a quick buck, kid.
Welcome to business.

>> No.43251199

I know it's hard to believe, but Chinese investment isn't even the worst thing regarding Cover going (((public)))

>> No.43251213

>>43242680
Holostars will be merged with hololive similar to how Riku merged niji ID & KR we're fucked...

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