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43477867 No.43477867 [Reply] [Original]

Vshojo isn't unite-

>> No.43477974

>>43477867
Are they split up??

>> No.43478032

>vt shitposts about a nijiEN civil war
>it happens to vshojo instead

>> No.43478120

Ironmouse protects everyone. She is a saviorfag like Kson

>> No.43478121

>>43477867
>NijiEN decline deflection thread

>> No.43478155

>>43477867
This just means they're split. I dunno what Froot's retarded ass was thinking.

>> No.43478166

>>43477867
damage control

>> No.43478314

>most lukewarm "nobody should be harassed" bullshit
Yeah the backstabbing rat is on team anti-Hogwarts
She tries to damage control now that the Silver drama has blown up and its getting obvious that nobody in the company is defending Silver.
Before that, all she had to say was "we talked to Silver in private" which implies they thought she made a mistake

>> No.43478482

This whole thing stinks of /pol/-tier gay ops.

>> No.43478673

>>43477867
Reminds me of Coco having' to go through chink shit. Surely, they won't be as bad as the chinks, they'll eventually get bored in a month.

>> No.43478769

>>43478673
Tranny harassers are the wumao harassers of the West. Same kind of ideologically possesed keyboard warriors.

>> No.43478786

>>43477867
Ah, Mousey chose to speak up after someone dumped her life via dox in her comments. She was fine staying out of it til then.

>> No.43479005

>>43478786
The rat didn't even take any hard stance just some "harassment is bad" shit take.

>> No.43479232

>>43477867
Seems pretty an extremely mealy-mouthed lukewarm defense of someone who has been her friend since long before VShojo, since back when they were both lucky to occasionally hit 3view status. I don't even like Silver very much but it's kinda sad that several of the others like mouse and melody have been with her since those days, and are so determined to not say anything in her defense to rock their own boats. Money really does ruin everything.

>> No.43479561

>>43479232
Mouse doesn't even have that much to lose by defending her, she's always got the "I'm dying" card for anyone trying to cancel her for anything. Guess silver's got some really shitty friends.

>> No.43479718

>>43479561
>Friends with literal whores
>Surprised that they care more about money than friendships
Silver's a whore too so it's not surprising that she was too dumb to see this coming. Maybe she will take Ame's advice and improve herself.

>> No.43479731

>>43477867
So it ironlung and silver vs frootcake and her troon army. I wonder what the other statement would be. Kson and nazuna will probably join silver.

>> No.43479923

>>43479731
I can see Kson getting upset over the in-fighting, don't know if anything would come of it though.

>> No.43479981

>>43477867
CIVIL WAR BROS OUR TIME HAS COME

>> No.43480039

>>43477867
Has Zen ever say something about this?

>> No.43480259

>>43480039
Zen is an SJW tranny, do you really think he would side with Silvervale, lmao.

>> No.43480624

>>43479232
Remember how quickly mouse jumped to defend nyanners during the nux drama? Guess she doesn't care about silver as much.

>> No.43480688

>>43480259
At least silver have mousey, if she side with froot, those troon will never stop, at least for now.

>> No.43480727

>>43477867
This explains the huge influx of Vshojo deflection threads.

>> No.43480799

>>43477867
Vshoujo Civil War coming soon?

>> No.43480990

>>43480688
Ironrat is not on Silver's side you fucking faggot, the rat just did the bare minimum to virtue signal AFTER people started calling her out for staying silent. And she didn't even say it's okay to stream Hogwarts

>> No.43481053

>>43480799
Nah, no civil war. Everyone will just gang on silver.

>> No.43481056

>>43480799
Probably, but it's going to be mostly internal.
Most of them aren't going to take a public stand one way or another.
Wouldn't surprise me if Mouse wasn't commanded by Nyanners to make the statement in her place, since Mouse would roll her bed off a building if Nyanners told her to.

>> No.43481139

>>43477867
Based mouse projecting her bubble shield over Silver

>> No.43481183
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43481183

Co-ordinated harassment campaign happens against HoloJP member.
> Holos all close ranks around her, defend her from bullshit and keep interacting with her even at the cost of their own channels getting spammed.
> Prominent members ditch their big money chinese audience entirely in support.
> An entire branch is nuked when it turns out that some of them were condoning the behavior of these lunatics.
> "Report, Block, Ignore" mentality gets ingrained in fanbase, entire company becomes immune to outside attacks.
> ENs didn't interact with her out of fear of rocking their boat, but JP was united behind her.
Co-ordinated harassment campaign happens against a VShojo member.
> One of your own colleagues throws you under the bus, and virtue signals with a "charity" to appease the mob.
> One (1) person defends you publicly.
> Rest of them leave her alone in the cold.

This seems to be a uniquely western problem.

>> No.43481191

>>43480259
wtf are you saying, never heard Zen talk about lgqbp shit

>> No.43481325

>>43481183
Vshojo isn't even a real group. Just a loose collective that was created for tax purposes.

>> No.43481330

>>43481183
>One of your own colleagues throws you under the bus, and virtue signals with a "charity" to appease the mob.
The best part about this one is the one virtue signalling hates trannies, including her tranny brother.

>> No.43481401

>>43480990
stfu faggot nigger, she stood up and very clearly said her message, which everybody clearly understood, you fucking retard. She doesn't need to say "I talk about Silvervale" stating the obvious for the retards like you, chat spamming silver hug emote is clearly knows, everybody knows and understands. BASED Mouse.

>> No.43481445

>>43481401
Don't you have some cocks to be sucking right now, Vei?

>> No.43481495

I know KSON and Nazuna wouldn’t care about this. Since they believe that trans people don’t exist at all.
Coco will always be based.
https://youtu.be/07ofZ6uYDU0

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>>43481445
none of your business, cucklord

>> No.43481647

>>43481183
> ENs didn't interact with her out of fear of rocking their boat, but JP was united behind her.
clarification on that last point, apparently it was EN management preventing coco from talking to/collabing with the EN girls and they EN girls didn't even know coco was trying to talk/collab with them until she mentioned it on live stream and a clip blew up

>> No.43481756

>>43478121
Why can't the board just shit on both?

>> No.43481816

>>43478786
Really? Can i get more detail please?

>> No.43481831

>>43478673
Remains to be seen, I think there's blood in the water and these parasites are only going to be emboldened. These things are definitely our bug"men".

>> No.43481872

>>43481183
Too bad HoloEN is not taking a stand. Out of fear or politics i don't know but they have proven to not be as united and supportive of the community as JP is.

>> No.43481941
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>>43477867
>>43478120
>ironmouse protects
>gives the most non-committal platitude you could possibly say without actually condemning anything
I swear, ironmouse is one of the shittiest vtubers in the game
>wanted to play hogwarts legacy
>completely backed down once she saw debate in her comments section
>her "friend" pikamee got harassed until she completely left the internet
>crickets, said nothing, zip, bullshit
>her "friend" silvervale got harassed until she broke down crying
And all ironmouse says is
>harassing people is bad guys, don't do it

How about you actually take a fucking stand for once
>if you think harassing pikamee or silvervale was justified, block me, I don't ever want to see your disgusting name in my chat
>if you think harassing people, my friends, over a video game, is sending some kind of message, well it is, it's saying you're mentally ill and deserve no sympathy

But ironmouse will never do that, ironmouse has no morals, she doesn't actually care about any of the people she larps that she does, because it might affect her publicity and future brand deals, and that's all she cares about

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43481943

Silver has been gaining more followers since the incident.

>> No.43481975

>>43481943
Meanwhile Froot has been losing followers.

>> No.43481989

>>43481183
it's easy to stand up against 10 chinese autists with spambots but nobody in holoJP did anything to help coco with the actual problems she was having with management

>> No.43482000

>>43478032
There was a nijien civil war though, which happened after the holoen civil war.

>> No.43482002

>>43481941
I honestly feel like Conner also has something to do with it due to his open disdain towards the game.

>> No.43482010

>>43481943
Real women fake tears >> fake women real tears.

>> No.43482032

>>43481816
It's dox info, so logically it won't be posted here. tl;dr someone dumped info about mousey under her tweets, stuff most people know but likely not the common vshojo viewer. She was staying out of the situation til then.

>> No.43482034

>>43478314
>nobody is defending silver
Everyone outside her company is defending silver, no one likes trannies except trannies like this fag >>43478482

>> No.43482038
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43482038

>>43481975

>> No.43482043

>>43481943
No shit, people saw a mentally ill mob attack a crying girl just trying to play a video game
All the big drama channels are covering it

>> No.43482081

>>43480624
>nux
>exposed them for literally letting people get doxxed
>immediate damage control
>silver
>played a fucking game
>extremely meh defense
Lmao

>> No.43482132

>>43482032
So she doesn't bother defending anyone unless she gets to defend herself while doing so.
She's not VShojo's white knight that she wants to be seen as, she's the troll living under the bridge.

>> No.43482168

>>43482002
I wouldn't doubt it, he's completely destroyed her entire image long term and she hasn't even fully realized it
I'm not talking about GFE-shit, I'm talking about how she is now just his sidekick

>> No.43482267

>>43481816
If you search up ironmouse archived tweets in google images you'll find your rabbit hole

>> No.43482287

>>43481495
Considering that Coco went through her own harassment i think KSON would care, especially when Silver has been thrown under the bus by other members.

>> No.43482310

>>43477867
But she didn't protect anyone, she said something so ambiguous that it could mean that she was siding with either side, basically emboldening them to keep doxxing her.

>> No.43482381

>>43482168
I find it disgusting how he uses her in such ways. And he even tried to rope in Cali too. He has no respect for these girls or the VTuber community.

>> No.43482392

>>43478673
>Surely, they won't be as bad as the chinks
Now that froot signaled she is on their side and that they got results by having Silvervale go on hiatus they won't stop until she's kicked out. They'll probably go after their business partners and sponsors next.

>> No.43482461

>>43477867
It was a very anodyne "don't harass anyone" message that didn't really take sides. She should have unequivocally defended her friend rather than trying to play both sides between her vs. deranged freaks.

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43482465

>>43481053
>vshojo once again shows why they're called vshitshow

>> No.43482511

>>43481330
Yeah she's really icky about it too
>2018: lmao imagine cutting ur vagina off ywnbam
>2023: ummm my brother in this country is my twin and he means a lot to me and he is a transman
Froot is one fucked up person.

>> No.43482551

>>43482381
It's okay because after he's banged half the vtubers on twitch those women will then talk about how men like you are the real problem and then you'll wonder why we don't have globalized islam.

>> No.43482588

>>43481975
>>43482038
Waow it's like there are only 1.8 million people who admit to be trans in the USA despite massive propaganda pushing around it.

>> No.43482612

>>43482381
The guy was just trying to use vtuber to grow his channel because it was the hottest fad in the ironic weeb sphere at the time.
Look at what happened to Ollie? As soon as ironmouse attached herself to him and he got an in to the vtuber fanbase and forgot she existed.

>> No.43482693

>>43481330
>>43482511
So wait, she has a twin sister who larps as a man? Surely if this tranny shit was real, and not just creepy groomers praying on vulnerable people, Froot would transition too, right?

>> No.43482705
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43482705

>>43482465
ftfy

>> No.43482711

>>43482034
The dumbest thing about this whole situation is how some trans people might have set their whole community back in terms of internet discussions/appearance.
It would be one thing if they were willing to compromise like "I know you want to play Wizard Game, but could you please donate some of your proceeds to organizations providing housing to trans people" or something like that in a rational sense. Or just ignoring them while they stream it or just move on entirely, but the fact that some of them went into full on harassment/doxxing mode is just stupid.
The very idea that they were hoping for a boycott of a franchise that millions of people grew up with when they were kids was just a massive pipe dream. The invertedly streisand effect'd this entire game and showed that yes, they are a minority.

>>43482612
I still don't know how people were able to look past that side of Connor.

>> No.43482733

>>43477867
Is it me or does it sound like mouse is siding with the trannies here? Instead of saying
>"My friend Silvervale does not deserve the harassment she's gotten recently"
she says
>"NO ONE deserves to be harassed and NO ONE deserves to feel threatened"
which is extremely noncommittal, and if anything falls more in line with the notion that transpeople face harassment on a daily basis. It's like she's trying to tell Silver she fucked up without actually saying it.

>> No.43482752

>>43478673
The tranny harassment is different from chinks. All the chinks did was spam, which was only annoying as fuck. If Youtube chat wasn't so fucking garbage and if Cover wasn't so aggressively incompetent, they wouldn't even have been visible.

The problem is with trannies is that they'll actively make up shit to try to character assassinate you and ruin your reputation. It's basically the same as what people did to Kiara, just make up random shit about how she did XYZ evil thing and 3 years later you still have tourists believing it.
THAT'S the issue, not the fact that they "complain" about their target.

If you watched Silvervale it is obvious that the lies were the only thing that triggered her, because these deranged sociopaths were going around claiming she banned the word trans and was being openly transphobic and whatever, that shit will literally get you blacklisted from the industry if enough people believe it. And even if they don't do it voluntarily, the next step is to harass those business contacts a la "umm are you aware you are hosting a streamer that literally wants a trans genocide??"
They are actual life ruination campaigns.

>> No.43482802

>>43482551
We really need Islam in our lives…

>> No.43482821

>>43482733
Oh, she's 100% being a noncommittal fence sitter, and it's slimy as shit, considering the harassment her supposed friend recieved.

>> No.43482827

>>43481989
anon? literally every chinese game publisher blocked them, those aren't 10 chinese autists with spambots

>> No.43482829

>>43482711
>It would be one thing if they were willing to compromise like "I know you want to play Wizard Game, but could you please donate some of your proceeds to organizations providing housing to trans people" or something like that in a rational sense. Or just ignoring them while they stream it or just move on entirely, but the fact that some of them went into full on harassment/doxxing mode is just stupid.
They are literally mentally ill people who have neutered themselves. There has never been a rational discussion involving them because you can't compromise with a paranoid schizophrenic you can only dose them with drugs to keep them from sperging out.

>> No.43482853

>>43481053
I'd be willing to gang on silver with the boys, if you catch my drift

>> No.43482918

>>43482752
The chinks were patriotic wolf warriors defeating the Japanese-American fascists who were trying to steal their islands.

The trannies are minions of Satan and the purest embodiment of capitalist power, comrade Xi would have them all interned.

>> No.43482924

>>43482381
Honestly I can't blame him for using these dumb broads for his own publicity, what I blame is that these girls didn't see they were being used.
Long term connor will be a pretty famous person, most of these people he used to climb social status will all disappear into irrelevancy.
It's a sad rule of the world, there are people that use and people that get used.

>> No.43483066

>>43482924
It's even more annoying since he's the least charismatic and likable of the Trash Taste trio, and I'm not a huge fan of them all to begin with.

>> No.43483074

>>43482752
So someone should sue for slander, libel and defamation, right?

>> No.43483177

>>43482924
He might fine long term success, but karma is a thing and one day he's going to face downfall, backlash and get canceled like a lot of big names before him.

>> No.43483192

>>43482733
There's more context in the clip, but she really was extremely vague early on yeah.
>No one deserves to be bullied, no one deserves to be in fear every day of their life
It's a bit weird that since she alludes to Silvervale, but she never outright said it.
>There's positive ways to get your message across.
>The "Streisand Effect"? bruh
>Either way you're gonna get crucified. You just need to decide which

>> No.43483212

>>43483066
I honestly think all of them are pretty bad personality wise and their only redeeming quality was their content, which has been stale, inconsistant and low quality for atleast over 2-3years.
I am baffled how these are still popular.

>> No.43483260

>>43483074
Very very hard to win in the US. You can bully them with the threat of lawsuits though (since they'll probably have to pay for a lawyer) but you'd need to be pretty rich to do that.

On the other hand, Keffals (the tranny who got cloudflare to drop Kiwifarms) got BTFO by a C&D letter from Destiny and basically fled from the internet.

>> No.43483265

>>43483192
>Either way you're gonna get crucified. You just need to decide which
Silvervale got crucified for our sins and she'll rise from the dead.
Can't say the same about those who'll get crucified for betraying her.

>> No.43483319

>>43483212
The only one i like is Gigguk and even then he's an asshat at times.

>> No.43483374

>>43482733
Not exactly. She meant that you have to be prepared to deal with men in dresses if you want to play the game on stream. Keep your back straight.

>> No.43483421

>>43483319
Watched 10 anime in a year as an anime vTuber.
Was the only one i have watched content from and he has been pretty shit for like 3 years. Can't be arsed to listen to opinions of people that are neithe smart, highly educated nor knowledgeable. Sounds like a waste of time to me, since there are 1000s of people more funny than them.

>> No.43483429

>>43482733
read this >>43481401
(You) too >>43483192

>> No.43483540

>>43483212
Should have just said something like, "I'll always be on the side of my friends."

>> No.43483564

>>43482821
She let fame get to her head. The Mousey of 2 years ago would have gone out swinging to protect Silver. She's not ironmouse anymore and it's fucking terrifying.

>> No.43483572

>>43482693
she has a brother who larps as a woman

>> No.43483611

Wait, who is Ironmouse's friend she's protecting from silvervale?

>> No.43483664

Pippa had the best defense of silver, no one's even come close.

>> No.43483719

>>43483664
Asmongold's defense was better

>> No.43483746

>>43483429
Cope you double-digit IQ retard, it's not about whether or not people know she's talking about Silvervale, it's the fact that SHE SAID NOTHING BEYOND "UHH STOP HARASSING HER"

>> No.43483786
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43483786

>>43477867
>couldn’t defend her own friend and her other friend (Pikamee) while Pippa and Tenma are fucking based to tell the trannies to fuck off.
BASED PINK BUNNY WINS AGAIN!

>> No.43483821

>>43483786
She ain't based if she wouldn't play the game.

>> No.43483836

>>43478155
white childless woman misdirecting her maternal instincts on "protected group"

>> No.43483837

>>43483786
no one dares fuck with the fox hag, which depending on the context could mae her sad

>> No.43483849

>>43483746
What else should she say to please you? "Death to trannies and kikes"?

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>>43483849

>> No.43483897

>>43479731
Kson will probably remain silent about the issue, disappointing considering how all of her previous co-workers jumped to her defense during the China debacle. You would think she would defend Silver considering she knows a thing or two about crying mid-stream due to harassment.

>> No.43483927

>>43483849
I would clap so hard and cum while she says that.

>> No.43484049

>>43483572
Didn't she tweet about her brother? Shouldn't she have said sister then, if she really believed in it?

>> No.43484057

>>43483849
Its a start.

>> No.43484076

>>43481183
>One (1) person defends you publicly.
...after being forced to say something because her chat was calling her out for being silent. Not sure if that even counts.

>> No.43484081

>>43481756
NijiEN doesn't deserve any of the hate it gets here. The whole branch get's attacked for the actions of 3 or 4 people out of 31 of them.

>> No.43484115

>>43483897
Kson's silence on this is deafening.

>> No.43484133

>>43483897
Man, I remember. Kanatan barging in to hug her really destroyed me.

>> No.43484188

Anyone who doesn't go as far as to call out how retarded it is for so much controversy to be generated over a shitty wizard game is tacitly encouraging Hogwarts Legacy witchhunts.

>> No.43484233

>>43483927
>>43483877
LMAO dudes we living in the real world, don't forget that. 4chan makes (You) anon and therefore you can talk shit on any scale, but real world doesn't work like this. She said everything needed to be said for everybody to understand clearly, while keeping it civil. Everybody knows she talks about Silvervale.

>> No.43484244

>>43483897
I lost all respect for her when she joined Vshojo. She has said herself she won't join another company. Even if she was bound by contract, she shouldn't have lied about it.

>> No.43484291

>>43484188
this
The funny thing is that they'd at least have plausible deniability if they didn't all collectively jump down Nux's throat in an absolutely circlejerk.
But now we have a reference point for how it looks when they ACTUALLY want to defend one of their members. The silence in regards to Silver is fucking deafening by contrast.

>> No.43484325

>>43483897
She can't afford a yab right now, while she's trying to get a spot in RGG. Especially not going to risk it over some fake ass bitches like Vshojo over her true Hololive sisters.

>> No.43484353

>>43480799
And to think silver get shaft for other vshojo for sponsorship, now she wont even have any chance.

>> No.43484378

>>43484233
Watch as this does nothing and the troons start going after Vshojo's sponsors. Wouldn't want the public to know they work with a company that hates troons you know? Now that Froot sided with them and silvervale is on hiatus, they know they can get what they want. They won't stop until silvervale gets kicked out.

>> No.43484387

>>43484244
The joining would have been treason by itself already, but she made it even worse by dragging the lying whore who literally got FIRED for spreading gossip about her company and co-workers along.
That is what truly made her scum in my eyes.

On a side note the shill interview where she unironically said "nope, not a single thing" when asked for any downside to joining vshojo was super cringe (i get she can't actually say anything but don't be THAT fucking cringe)

>> No.43484438

>>43484049
it's almost like she's acting like she supports trannies to get on their good side
she has old discord messages making fun of her tranny brother and those messages are filled with hatred, it made me feel bad for the guy. Even if he's a tranny, you shouldn't talk about your family like that

>> No.43484441

>>43484188
Jesus, it's a fucking Harry Potter witch hunt. It's like we're living in a timeline created by ChatGPT.

>> No.43484454

>>43477867
Ironmouse is the closest thing to a leader the EN Vtubing community has.

>> No.43484481

>>43484244
she didn't say that stupid numbercuck

>> No.43484494

>>43481647
EN Management is problem with HoloEN. The talents are the issue with Vshojo.

>> No.43484514

>>43484454
She pretty much is

>> No.43484563

>>43482000
holoen civil war ended with unicorns winning

>> No.43484582

>>43484494
imagine holoEN talents with vshojo's management...

>> No.43484610

>>43484481
>Went from vshojo isn't a corpo to she didn't say that
LOL

>> No.43484615

>>43484188
This is how i feel about HoloEN and it disappoints me.

>> No.43484676

>>43484378
I would argue, brother. Statement by the biggest member (Mouse) is very valuable, and huge amount of people (and growing) already sees how these lgbtretards are literal fascists harassing innocent people. They have no power if you don't give them power yourself. Like Asmongold said - fuck'em, don't even react. And other members of VShojo do exactly this. Neutrality is an option, especially if the biggest member of VShojo already said the word, clearly.

>> No.43484698

>>43484615
Gura has talked about playing the wizard game, and also Atomic fart.

>> No.43484713

>>43483897
>disappointing considering how all of her previous co-workers jumped to her defense during the China debacle.
Well at least it's good to know that she wouldn't have done the same for them.

>> No.43484756

>>43484582
>imagine holoEN talents with vshojo's management..
That is genuinely horrifying. It would be better if we had folks like A-chan or JP management in EN at this point, I'd take that over what we have now.

>> No.43484760

>>43484698
Yeah, she talked about why she wouldn't be playing them.

>> No.43484785

>>43482081
>tried to make it seem like phishing using their branding was their fault as they dealt with it privately
>gave them a few weeks, then went public
>something literally every large company does is deal with this shit privately, and it can take months to figure out how to confront it without accidentally using wording that implies fault
Everything else said in this thread is fair crit, but Nux had no idea how to behave like an adult and got fucked for it. He was lucky he didn't get sued. Was entirely on him and if it weren't vtubing and people hadn't been kind to him he would be a thousand times worse off. If he was treated how anyone would be treated in an actual business or entertainment industry scenario he would still be facing serious legal issues, not just indifference because people don't want to be around such an unstable person around their careers and livelihoods.

>> No.43484824

>>43481943
Of course, it's because their tears are soo delicious that I bought the Wizard game which turned out quiet fun, really, nude mods on it is great too, and currently I'm tempted on getting Gura's daki just to spite them bitching about it being lewd, shit's not lewd at all and currently I'm contemplating subbing to Silver cuz of this too.

>> No.43484834

>>43484188
I gotta be honest, if anyone ends up killing themselves over this harassment (God forbid) then all those who stayed silent should share the blame with the trannies for allowing it to happen.

>> No.43484837

>>43484610
you thirdworlders are literally nitpicking the words used in the live translation written at like 100 words per minute
you have no case whatsoever
find me one japanese person talking about "not joining another corpo" or "she said vshojo isn't a company"
you can't because they can understand what she said

>> No.43484863

>>43484615
Blame Altroon, and EN management. I wouldn't even care if they sat on the fence about the shitty wizard game, but then Altroon had to acknowledge it just to support the "cause".

>> No.43484886

>>43484824
>nude mods on it is great too
You should really check out the mod that allows you to ride Shrek like a broom.

>> No.43484907

>>43484837
Cope harder seething mutt

>> No.43484915

>>43484824
There's an anime mod too, if you get tired of the ugly faces.

>> No.43484966

>>43484907
ok now go back to your fanfiction thread muhammed

>> No.43485000

>>43484863
I do blame him.
"Support the cause"? Well at this point it's a cause not worth supporting. At this point standing up and defending the VTuber community is a much better cause than whatever those tranny "activists" are trying to push.
Altare is on the wrong side of history and i hope every other HoloEN member eventually stands up against him.

>> No.43485018

>>43484966
>your fanfiction
>Everybody i don't like is a shitskin
Lel the whitest mutt strikes again

>> No.43485064

>>43484915
Not him but i actually think the faces are cute.

>> No.43485092

>>43485018
you are literally mad at a sloppy translation that you decided to interpret in the most ridiculous way possible because you don't speak a word of japanese

>> No.43485095

>>43484115
Her mouth is full of pussy right now

>> No.43485109

>>43484615
The default and vast majority opinion on the internet is that the game isn't worth the trouble it is to play it and that the people getting angry about it are overreacting. I have no problem with people avoiding the game. But Ironmouse made it pretty clear she thinks the game deserves scrutiny because of something some lady said.
Ironmouse couldn't even fencesit properly.

>> No.43485141

>>43485095
Nasuna?

>> No.43485179

>>43484454
>>43484514
Holo and Niji really dropped the ball on that one.

>> No.43485200

>>43484582
With no management at all?

>> No.43485201

>>43482711
>>43482829
This. These people have a sickness and society props them up and feeds into their delusions. These are people who desperately need actual help but you're burned at the stake for even suggesting anything that doesn't feed into their fantasy.

>> No.43485242

>>43481401
Did we watch the same video? If that's her clear defence I don't want to know how it is when she phones it in.

>> No.43485278

>>43484563
Truly the underdogs of vt

>> No.43485301

>>43485141
https://twitter.com/kanameai/status/1627664954454335489

>> No.43485324

>>43484454
>vtuber president is a coward who backstabs her friends to get more money
Just like the real president.

>> No.43485355

>>43485092
>You're the mad and angry one not me!!!!
Stop drinking water from east palestine lmfao

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>>43484563

>> No.43485385

>>43485095
I'd be willing to bet she's tongued Pajakko's ass at least once.

>> No.43485421

>>43483572
>>43484049
>>43484438
Other way around because she refers to it as a man, so it's her twin sister who 'became' her 'brother'.

>> No.43485451

>>43485324
Biden is scum. And yet, I am not white.

>> No.43485453

>>43485109
>The default and vast majority opinion on the internet is that the game isn't worth the trouble it is to play it
Ignoring the fact that it's not the default or the majority, especially with all these people coming out to support the game and people playing it, it's also wrong.
The only reason why anyone would think it's "not worth it" is if they're not strong enough to stand up to bullying, so everyone who uses that excuse are just admitting how weak they are.
I remember when Coco and Haachama got bullied and all the JP talents came to their defense. At that moment JP showed just how strong they are. But now, when it was EN's turn to show how strong they are, they only showed how weak they are.

>> No.43485456

>>43485355
again you still haven't responded with anything but insults because you know your whole argument is made up

>> No.43485480

>>43485369
I missed this, when did it start? Was this during the Vesper/Kronii collab or the Monopoly thing?

>> No.43485486

>>43485301
This bitch is so lucky...

>> No.43485498

>>43482168
>I wouldn't doubt it, he's completely destroyed her entire image long term and she hasn't even fully realized it
I can't feel bad for her when you look at how she handles something like this:
>Waits a few days until things calm down to vaguely say don't harass people on the internet, won't mention Silver by name and support her the way she instantly would do so if it was Connor.
These are not the actions of a kind-hearted person who is there for her friend. These are the actions of someone carefully calculating the blowback of her next statement and timing it to have as little impact as possible.

>> No.43485529

>>43481183
Holy fucking based, the more I learn about Fubuki the more based she becomes.
Maybe learning japanese and watching JP streamers free of this woke shit is actually worth it...

>> No.43485532

>>43485453
Show me one big streamer who has played it

>> No.43485574

>>43483746
>>43481401
>"UHH STOP HARASSING HER"
She didn't actually say that btw
She just said "no one deserves harassment"
You know that from the tranny mental state, someone playing the HP game constitutes "harassment" to them right?
By not stating Silver's name here, her statement can basically mean
> no one deserves to have to see Silver harassing the trans community by playing this game

>> No.43485591

>>43485453
I blame management, the girls don't seem to be actively in fighting or anything. I bet EN management doesn't want to work overtime and play defense for the girls, so they just didn't get permissions or something.

>> No.43485640

>>43485480
>boys debut
>shitposting breaks out into open hostility
>reaches a peak with the worms collab
>vesper gets suspended for calling altare a nigger and saying trannies will never be women
>victory for the kronies

>> No.43485652

>>43485453
>all the jp talents
except aqua, shion, ayame, all of gen 5 who pretended she didn't exist until she was quitting just like EN

>> No.43485654

>>43481941
All this. She whined about how she saw messages about how "the silence was deafening." Feels like her catching shit for not saying anything was the only reason she gave even that incoherent fence sitting defense.

>> No.43485693

>>43485532
>Show me one big streamer who has played it
Anon, you are retarded. You are going to next specify "western streamers" when JP and ID streamers are named to you.
And the obvious answer to that question is that any place in the world where there isn't a coordinated harassment campaign against playing this game has big streamers playing this game.

>> No.43485706

>>43485421
holy shit, don't talk about things if you're too retarded to do your reps

>> No.43485756

>>43485532
None, but that's the thing, big streamers are weak nowadays, they don't even try to stand up.
But that's only if we're focusing on western streamers specifically. As we can see from Asian streamers they're brave enough to stand up. And don't give me the "But they don't speak english" excuse when they too have been getting hate from tannies for playing the game, yet they don't care because there's much more support than hate and they know it. It's a damn shame that western streamers can't see the same thing, only focusing on the hate from people who never watched instead of the support from their fans.

>> No.43485768

>>43482002
Has he openly said something about it? I saw some non-committal non-answer clip from him before the RV trip.

Shame.

>> No.43485776

>>43485640
So Vesper being suspended was the end, gotcha. Shame it had to be him, he's a pretty cool dude.

>> No.43485782

>>43484676
>And other members of VShojo do exactly this. Neutrality is an option
Froot literally said playing the game was a mistake. Which is outright siding with them.

>> No.43485823

>>43485652
An over exaggeration i'll admit but you can't deny that JP stood up while EN stays silent.

>> No.43485825

>>43485532
xqc

>> No.43485856

>>43482043
When even Asmongold of all people could rub two braincells together and conclude that whatever happened was way out of proportion to whatever she could've done was the death-nail for the whole narrative that she somehow did something wrong.

>> No.43485860

>>43485706
Do your reps means learning something worthwhile like a language, not figuring out which kind of mental illness some whore's sibling has. But she refers to 'him' as her brother and he is transgender, it wouldn't make sense to position herself as pro-trans if she's calling her dick-chopping brother a man.

>> No.43485878

>>43485706
>lamy proceeds to grovel and go on hiatus for making fun of jannies in poorly paid dead end jobs

>> No.43485907

>>43485652
It's not fair to include ayame since she spent all of 2021 not streaming anyway.

>> No.43485929

>>43485591
And that's too bad because multiple HoloEN girls have proven to be fans of Harry Potter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I0NPqcGt4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT2ixTvIiPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPIFP4GVWLQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABrn2vEYLNc

>> No.43485941

>>43485823
well EN weren't allowed to
i'm sure all of them except for maybe ina would be on her side

>> No.43485950

>>43485823
>JP stood up
They did what? lol
No one said shit for months

>> No.43485955

>>43485860
we have discord records of her making fun of her brother for cutting his dick off to become a woman

>> No.43485983

>>43482465
true facts stated
>>43482705
trump lost

>> No.43486127

>>43485456
>Muh insult
>The jews cries in pain as he strikes you
Lel
Proof you vshojo cucks went from not a corpo to she didn't say that? You're the walking proof
dumbass

>> No.43486162

>>43481183
I love how the Chinese aren't even slightly important to the rest of the world and treating them as such is enough to make them fly into a blind rage and go scorched earth.

>> No.43486188

>>43485941
No, i'm not saying EN stayed silent when it came to the China thing, i'm saying they stayed silent about Hogwarts Legacy.
>>43485950
There were fellow JP members who have supported and defended Coco during those times.

>> No.43486237

>>43485574
>By not stating Silver's name here, her statement can basically mean
>> no one deserves to have to see Silver harassing the trans community by playing this game
Yep, this is weak shit Mouse put out. Silver has ZERO friends in the company, that much is obvious. People used to think she was just a numberfag but I think this is what has really been bothering her lately.

>> No.43486245

>>43483319
Gigguk is fine but I think he'll have to really consider branching out from regular anime content soon like Joey because he's just not as committed to it as he used to be.

>> No.43486293

>>43483837
Fox hag is actually not stupid and can dish it out better than some room temp. IQ twitter sperg.

>> No.43486302

>>43485369
kek

>> No.43486310

>>43486237
Or.
>Froot shouldn't have to put up with this harassment for donating to charity

>> No.43486427

>>43485574
your level of "Retarded" stat is over 9000, I can't argue with you, you're like retarded Thanos, no matter what I will say you will make it disappear from your mind in a second.

But, like, maybe... look in the chat and at the comments? It would seem as if EVERYBODY knows that she is talking about Silvervale.

>> No.43486441

>>43486127
it's obviously a corporation
what she meant is that it's not corporate vtubing in the vein of hololive or nijisanji because some of her fans in her members stream the night before were worried about her being screwed over again
then taishi fucked up the translation and now you people are mad

the "she said she wouldn't join another company" thing is equally ridiculous because even in the screencap you people like to post it says "i probably won't", like that's some sort of blood oath

>> No.43486442

>>43477867
Actually disappointed with mouse here
She didn't defend silver
Just said harassing is bad but pretty much silver asked for it

>> No.43486485

>>43486427
>you're like retarded Thanos
Not that Anon but what kind of an insult is that?

>> No.43486510

>>43483212
inertia. people start watching them because it's fun, and then when it's no longer fun they continue to watch them anyway, because it's become a habit

>> No.43486568

>>43486245
he also needs to stop going "btw I'm married" all the time. no one cares.

>> No.43486573

>>43486442
Well look at the bright side. If she really meant that Silver was wrong and doesn't stand by her, then her vagueness about it lead people to believe the opposite making her response a backfire.

>> No.43486595

>>43485782
I actually think that Froot wanted to help Silver with her message, at the moment when chat was full of lgbtretards it created the illusion of that it is a huge "power" so she tried to play a diplomat with this power. But, there is no power, only retarded abusers. I actually think she thought she is helping Silver at the moment.

>> No.43486628

>>43486427
You are too retarded to notice how she refused to say anything nice about Silver her supposed friend whatsoever in this entire ordeal?

>> No.43486640

>>43477867
>defends
>says basically nothing

>> No.43486650

>>43485782
>>43486595
also, brother, I was talking about ALL OTHER members of VShojo, clearly.

>> No.43486720

>>43486485
idk, funny.

>> No.43486725

>>43486595
If you truly believe that you're arguing that Froot is fucking retarded and/or has crippling autism because even a 6 year old would understand that saying that would pour oil on the fire.

>> No.43486731

>>43484886
I actually went for the gun mod, all I need to do is install the Akimbo mod and I'm good.

>>43484915
I don't mind the faces that much but did get the Holo picture mod, was dying with the gremlin newspaper.

>> No.43486736

>>43486595
I'd believe this if she hadn't disingenuously claimed she'd donate to charity for "diverse kids" for PR while Silver was having a breakdown.

>> No.43486749

>>43486640
I rarely see honest clippers anymore. They all push an agenda with their titles and thumbnails and even the editing.
Should just be "mouse speaks on the silver issue" this was hardly a "protect" more like a corporate mandated statement.

>> No.43486804

>>43486725
So it's either manipulative bitch or retarded autist.
Really depends on what you think makes Froot look better i suppose.

>> No.43486887

>>43486628
dude, wtf are you talking about. What exactly she should have said, in your opinion?
Let me guess - you know nothing about diplomacy? Saying "anything nice" in this situation would have the opposite effect, as it would be as if she tries to convince lgbtretards that Silvers is good, bending the knee. No, fuck this, she stated her position, protecting her friend, and that's that. Think before asking such stupidass questions.

>> No.43486893

>>43480039
People asked Zen on stream if Silver is okay the day after Silver's stream and Zen said "I've spoken with Silver, she's okay, she just needs time".

>> No.43486932

>>43486628
>You are too retarded to notice how she refused to say anything nice about Silver her supposed friend whatsoever in this entire ordeal?
This is what people arguing about whether see "owned" the trannies or not are completely missing. Mouse saw a co-worker having a breakdown because she felt totally isolated and didn't have anything to say about her positive interactions with Silver in the past or what Silver means to her.
Fuck the wizard game or the politics around it, Mouse failed at the most basic human level possible and so did vshojo in general.

>> No.43486934

>>43482693
unlike her mentally ill sister, Froot mental illness is not related to having a pussy

>> No.43486988
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43486988

>I think that everybody is entitled to support whatever the fuck they want to support
>and you know what
>that's on you whatever you want to support however
>I believe that no one deserves to be harassed
>and no one deserves to be attacked
>and no one deserves to be bullied
>and no one deserves to be feel threatened
>no one deserves to live in fear every day of their life
>that is not right
>and I think there's a lot of positive ways to get a message across without having to make somebody feel bad
>you have the choice to do whatever the fuck you wanna do

>> No.43487020

>>43485955
the same discord records has froot saying "you can't my sister sane"

>> No.43487131

>>43481989
The fuck it is. You must be new. I've never seen a harassment campaign last longer without being fed than the one those "10 Chinese autists" engaged in. Just months and months of shitting up every stream, even with mods. Made much worse by YouTube being retarded and not having sub length only modes back when it started. Even after Coco left, you'd still see the shitters going after Fubuki from time to time. And as the other anon said, Cover got blacklisted by Chinese companies because of it.

>> No.43487357

>>43485532
Biggest western streamer in the world played it and told the lunatics to get bent, a tonne of mid-sized streamers have played it too even a lot of larger indies.

>> No.43487376

>>43487131
it took YT so long to implement that shit, and yet people got used to it instantly, fucking hell
I barely got into vtubers back when the whole taiwan debacle started, but it always seemed to me like pretty much most, if not all, of the JP was behind Coco from day 1, even with all of the Japanese honorifics and other shit.

>> No.43487559

>>43486310
*a charity investigated for child endangerment by the UK Charity Commission

>> No.43487626

>>43486427
I get that English probably isn't your first language, so I'm going to explain this as simply as possible. Ironmouse was not speaking directly about Silver. Instead, she chose her words carefully to make her viewers think that she was defending her friend, but her words were too vague to be a valid defense.

>> No.43487629

Ironmouse
>annoying-ass voice
>shitty react content
>member of Vshitshow
>all of this >>43481941
EN VTubing was a mistake and twitch is fucking cancer.

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>>43477867
I wonder how her mom and brother are taking it.

>> No.43487793

>>43486988
The EN organizations need talent freedom now more than ever.

>> No.43487855

>>43487131
i dont think you understood what i meant
holo jp girls standing up for coco against the chinese after they already pulled out of china has no basically downside or consequences other than being spammed in one stream
but they didn't do anything to help her with the things that actually bothered her and drove her to quit because that would require them to stand up to management and get them in actual trouble
she did not quit because of china

>> No.43488029

>>43486988
And I choose war.

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>>43486441

>> No.43488165

>>43487855
>but they didn't do anything to help her with the things that actually bothered her and drove her to quit because that would require them to stand up to management and get them in actual trouble
What are you talking about? No one wanted Coco to leave, not even management. Everyone tried to talk her out of it, even Yagoo, who cried over her departure.

>> No.43488219

>>43488165
turn your brain on and stop consooming corpo slop retard

>> No.43488257

>>43488165
no one wanted her to leave but no one wanted to do anything to rectify the reasons she wanted to leave
i.e they wanted her to stay and be a second class citizen taking shit from the managers forever

>> No.43488272

>>43488088
Not that Anon but seriously? That's not even the longest post in this thread.

>> No.43488356

>>43488257
Well like i said not even managers wanted her to leave so i doubt they'd treat her poorly, especially Yagoo.

>> No.43488373

>>43483564
She is now a wearable of someone.

>> No.43488377

>>43488272
numberbrownies' brains shut down when confronted with truth

>> No.43488391

>>43481191
are you trolling? if you're not then you must not have been following zen for long. he regularly goes on hysterical sjw rants on twitter. he did it for trump, did it for covid, not surprised if he does it for hogwarts eventually. it's full-blown raging mental illness. someone post the archives.

>> No.43488463

>>43487637
I wonder how her mom takes my dick

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>>43481183
waaaait a minute...
This seems like a similar situation
Huh
Are the sisters supporting Zaion?
Is NijiEN behind Zion?

>> No.43488519

>>43488257
Now you need to also understand that Coco probably got more affected by the whole ordeal than she likes to let on. She was probably rattled and wanted an excuse to leave and start over, so she acts difficult, self-sabotages project meetings with demands she knows they can't meet and then eventually quits. Considering she hasn't really done any big projects since leaving and now she seems to be aiming at a conventional VA career in Japan I don't really see the "they shot down all my projects" excuse really sticking anymore.

It might not be what happened but it's a plausible scenario not a lot of people seem to bring up with that whole scandal.

>> No.43488536

>>43487855
>but they didn't do anything to help her with the things that actually bothered her
And you know that how?

>> No.43488543

>>43488257
You don't know what happens behind the scenes, you don't know the problems she had with managers nor do you know if anyone tried helped her behind the scenes with those problems.

>> No.43488619

>>43479561
>>43480624
Or maybe Silver's not that great a person behind the scenes?

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>>43487626
>can't in diplomacy

>> No.43488743

>>43488619
Can't see her possibly be more obnoxious than any of the other girls, they were all friends pre-Vshoujo too so might also be them drifting apart.

>> No.43488786

>>43488356
yes they were really nice to her when they suspended her while putting out a press message that she broke the rules and then canned her most popular show and then banned her from interacting with EN and then turned chinese spammers into her mods who then banned half her members
>>43488519
she has done plenty of big projects and she's not trying to be a fucking voice actor???
did you like completely miss her mogra event, 3d debut, taiwan fanmeeting, idol live?
well you probably didn't because nobody posts positive things about her in /#/
>>43488536
>>43488543
if they did she would still be around

>> No.43488881

>>43481943
Fake drama to get subs confirmed.

>> No.43488931

>>43488786
Are you retarded? Have you missed her Yakuza auditions or what?

All those other "achievements" sounds more like what a normal corpo does anyway? Don't see what's so special about it.

>> No.43488997

>>43488786
>yes they were really nice to her when they suspended her while putting out a press message that she broke the rules and then canned her most popular show and then banned her from interacting with EN and then turned chinese spammers into her mods who then banned half her members
I doubt most of this is true.
And the way i see it whenever Hololive suspends someone it's to protect them like with Haachama and Towa.

>> No.43489062

>>43488786
>canned her most popular show
Did that herself because it was incredibly difficult to do, you can't even say management restricted her when she went from daily, to 3 times a week, to sometimes weekly if she had the material.
>then banned her from interacting with EN
EN management is so far detached from Cover that they might as well be a different company
>then turned chinese spammers into her mods who then banned half her members
Management is completely incompetent and no one argues against this, Coco wasn't getting special treatment, other members got fucked by incompetent managers as well. And this is not a Cover considering this shitshow in vshojo is all because of completely incompetent or inexistent management.

>> No.43489065

>>43488881
So exactly how is this fake to you?

>> No.43489240

>>43488931
yes she's trying to get into yakuza because she loves that franchise
>she seems to be aiming at a conventional VA career
is obviously not the case when she's trying to get one specific role and nothing else
>>43488997
literally all of it is true
"suspended to protect them" is the biggest cope ever
>>43489062
she did asacoco for several months straight before managers started interfering, then conveniently stopped right after the controversy caused by doing asacoco

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>>43482827
>chinese games
and nothing of Value was lost

>> No.43489328

>>43482924
The lewdcast where Mouse, Mel, and Silver were all hopelessly horny for him is both funny, and very pathetic. Man almost had an unironic harem.

>> No.43489425

>>43489328
Was this shortly before he ever mentioned any of them on the podcast? If so it's kinda sus the timing of him starting to namedrop vtubers publically and him & mouse getting in contact with each other.

>> No.43489475

>>43483849
Indeed, maybe also acknowledge that Women aren't all knowing and are just as prone to being worthless trash as some men

>> No.43489559

>But that's all I wanna say, all I wanna say is, Would you wanna live in fear every day of your life? And be afraid to close your eyes? You wanna be afraid to go to sleep? No. Why would you want to do that to somebody? Why?
If anyone had doubts that Silver's harassment was real, the fact that Mouse is also saying stuff like this strongly implies it is.

>> No.43489894

>>43478673
Nah trains are fucked up . they will fabricate things, spread rrats, etc. if they get obsessed. They unfortunately have a lot of power here, a couple autistic schizos can ruin an entire board / boards perception of someone or something. It's happened.

>> No.43489938

>>43489240
>she did asacoco for several months straight before managers started interfering, then conveniently stopped right after the controversy caused by doing asacoco
And she literally broke down on stream while on drugs because of that. The "controversy" only happened because she was scrambling for content before sleeping and didn't check one correctly. Asacoco was incredibly stressful and tiring, management neutered it but they didn't force her to stop, Koyo has her news show virtually unstopped and with plenty of raunchy jokes

>> No.43489974

>>43488786
>if they did she would still be around
>no proof
Everyone has had issues with management at one point, and Coco wasn't certainly the kind of person to go ask for help.
Whatever happened, it certainly didn't taint their relationship, since she still loves most Holomems.
Meaning at the very least she didn't feel abandoned by them. Anything else is just conjecture.

>> No.43490187

>>43489938
>on drugs
are you that schizo that comes into our general saying she's addicted to sleeping pills and you wanted her to be stabbed to death in taiwan?

>> No.43490409

>>43481941
this
and also >>43485654
make no mistake, they're not friends just few vtubers under the same merch brand
Mouse reacted only becasue she saw people talking about how quiet she is on the whole situation and she gets oneguy'd easily.
If it wasn't for the people talking she wouldn't have say anything

when Silver brokedown at some point she was crying that she feels so alone, that should tell you about the whole "unity" in vshojo

>> No.43490475

>>43489894
>Nah trains are fucked up
C*r hands typed this post.

>> No.43490512

>>43489240
>literally all of it is true
Well as mentioned here >>43489062 what you said is bullshit so why should i believe a raging anti?

>> No.43490547

>>43477867
Ironmouse is a coward. I remember when they were doing smash or pass on Pokemon and chat got mad at her for saying smash to a smaller pokemon and then she got all self conscious and only started picking socially acceptable animals to fuck

>> No.43490615

>>43488687
>diplomacy
Ironmouse has absolutely nothing to lose by telling people the wizard game isn't a big deal. She has nothing to lose by defending Silver, and had nothing to lose from defending Pikamee. At most she'll lose a few obnoxious retards, that's it. She still refuses to so much as name them.
I mean look at this fake dogshit for a second >>43487855 and realize it is the exact opposite of reality. It was not just fucking regular chat spam, some of those girls were getting put through the wringer. Cover PULLED OUT OF CHINA over it. They gave up a bunch of money and future revenue to do it. An entire fucking branch went up in smoke. In comparison, Ironmouse's opponent is a few extremely vocal retards on twitter. Not a country. Twitter. I'm pretty sure the type of people who would spam chats over this aren't smart enough to get around a ban, either, so all the literally hitler shit would get nuked out of their chats in a heartbeat and that'd be that. She's still tip toeing around it and there's no excuse.

>> No.43490673

>>43490187
Anon it's ok to admit you're a newfag but anyone that actually cares about Coco and watched that stream doesn't care that she stopped Asacoco, it was literally killing her

>> No.43490744

>>43486237
She DID say she's felt alone through this and has complained about feeling left alone and neglected by Vshojo multiple times

>> No.43490989

>>43490512
>actually it was EN management and not JP management that blocked the collabs
>actually they modded the chinese facists on accident
wow my arguments got totally destroyed

>> No.43491062
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43491062

>vshojo is unite- ACK!

>> No.43491070

>>43490547
what was it that got chat all pissy?

>> No.43491232

>>43491062
>me and Connor
Were there actually any other VShojos nominated?

>> No.43491270

>>43491232
Connor isn't VShojo. Veibae was nominated for best vtuber, Froot was nominated for best FPS streamer and VShojo itself was nominated for best organization

>> No.43491311

>>43491270
Why the fuck would she shill Connor then? Is she planning to leave VShojo?

>> No.43491384

>>43487637
Didn't she say they got doxxed?

>> No.43491540

You guys are forgetting the funniest part, that Froot's MOM is supporting Silver and also got death threats for it.

>> No.43491549

>>43491062
>I never really have the confidence to watch or believe in myself
>basically wins this shit every year
>one of the biggest streamers on twitch and probably biggest vtuber on twitch

Yeah fuck right off with the "uwu I'm just a smol bean with no confidence" shite

>> No.43491570

>>43481989
>10 chinese autists
Hololive is still to this day banned in china

>> No.43491577

>>43481183
The EN thing is clearly not true and Kiara lamented that they were l literally not allowed to collab with her for the longest time.

>> No.43491673

>>43490989
Yes, because you are a proven liar.

>> No.43491716

>>43491673
because that other guy lied about her voluntarily stopping asacoco just conveniently after the taiwan yab?
lmao

>> No.43491857

>>43491549
That's the CodeMiko award buddy, they went easy on Mouse this year and didn't nominate her so now she's desperate to seize the opportunity

>> No.43492000

>>43486720
How? Are actually autistic?

>> No.43492069

>>43486932
Bump

>> No.43492234

>>43491716
>because that other guy lied about her voluntarily stopping asacoco just conveniently after the taiwan yab?
Asacoco 3.0 was after Taiwan you fucking mouth breather, it fucking happened in Asacoco 2.0. If you had a brain you would realize just from this that asacoco did in fact continue after the taiwan yab

>> No.43492406

>>43484785
Dude he acted how you should proceed in cases like this, vshogo handled it like shit and didn't want to be seen in bad light(backfired)

>> No.43492478

so I hear vshoujo is imploding
PLEASE tell me it isnt something so stupid as playing hogwarts legacy vs not playing it

>> No.43492503

>>43491570
He's diluted, I bet he believes that the fags sending death threads and spamming her are also just 10 fags.

>> No.43492558

>>43492478
Read the thread, there's like fucking 5 summaries in it.

>> No.43492610
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>>43492478

>> No.43492644

>>43492406
Also why people got mad with the nepohire

>> No.43492688

>>43486887
"saying something nice about Silver" is basically just stating who Silver is to her.
> Silvervale is a dear friend to me, and it was sad seeing her getting harassed. She did not deserve that just for playing a video game.
She won't say this.
You know why? Because she's in the same position Fubuki was in, back during the chinkout. If she sided with Coco, a large group of people (who were a large source of her income as well) were waiting right outside, to tear her down limb from limb.
Ironmouse knows that siding with Silver, even if she stated that she's all for trans rights and what not, she will be attacked. Her chat will become a battleground.
And she doesn't want to go through that.
Even for a so called "friend".

>> No.43492790

>>43492234
...
ok my memory is just shit sorry about that
the way i remembered it she just did the 10/19 one then stopped
but still it was only 9 episodes before she got "burned out" while at a much slower pace than before which is hard to believe

>> No.43492807

>>43487626
She's playing all sides here, it's masterful how good she is at sitting the fence that she's sitting on a 3-way fence right now.
> Silver fans think she's talking about Silver getting harassed by trannies
> Trannies think she's talking about them getting "attacked" by Silver playing the game
> Froot fans think she's talking about Froot getting harassed for "charity" work

>> No.43492920

>>43487855
>holo jp girls standing up for coco against the chinese after they already pulled out of china
Fucker HoloCN lived for 6 fucking months AFTER the incident, they only pulled out later.
The holo girls pulled out of China when their entire clip ecosystem and part of their INCOME was from Chinese fans.
That's how much that had to sacrifice to side with a friend.

>> No.43492980
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43492980

>> No.43493050

>>43492688 read pic rel
>>43481183

>> No.43493079
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43493079

>>43492980
>Terminally online twitter freaks

>> No.43493099

>>43491062
Feels like i read this from her b4 in another context

>> No.43493139

>>43482752
The Chinese did way more than that. lmao

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43493159

>>43488786
> canned her most popular show
she did that herself by going over the line

>> No.43493178

>>43492920
Don't forget there were like 2 girls that really didn't want to deal with that shit and got shat on because of the other two bugs, if I don't recall wrong they were going to give them the models to keep and give them the channels or some shit but after ultracunt's backstabbing they just scrapped it completely.

>> No.43493191

>>43492920
no?
nobody in holojp streamed on b2 after the taiwan thing
holocn got fired in like november

>> No.43493360
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43493360

So fuck trannies?

>> No.43493391

>>43491716
Well hs evidence is more powerful than yours and he's the more reasonable one.

>> No.43493406

What're the odds Silver becomes secretly based after this?

>> No.43493433

>>43493178
Nope, that was bilibili lying about them being able to keep their models
Basically if you are a foreign entity wanting to do business in China, you need to have a local Chinese business that handles operations. And for Cover, HoloCN was handled by Bilibili.
And the anti stuff was an attempt at using this "new popular entertainment" to spread China's influence, remember this was in the backdrop of the US-China trade war and Covid fucking over Chinese manufacturing.
Bilibili, being CCP owned, had to toe the line, hence their attempt to wrest control over the Hololive IP that they HAD access to (i.e. HoloCN).
There's a reason they shitcanned the entire branch, Cover would have set a bad precedent for their IP protection if they let Bilibili do what they wanted.

>> No.43493465

>>43493191
you're agreeing with me dude, reading reps

>> No.43493477

>>43492807
>masterful
It took her 3 days to come up with "no one deserves this."
She sucks at fence-sitting.

>> No.43493489

>>43485860
Doing your reps means doing your reps, just say you want to be spoonfeed or qrd

>> No.43493507

>>43493406
0. She might be resentful for the few shitters who took things too far but she's a women who'd fairly left/center left. At worse she's going to to try and stay apolitical all the time.

>> No.43493518

>>43481183
I still can't believe how fast they pulled out of China, one of the most if not the most lucrative market for weeb shit. The chinks never saw it coming, they were expecting Cover to kneel. Well, even I was expecting that to be fair.
YAGOO is forever based in my eyes for that.

>> No.43493528

>>43492790
>but still it was only 9 episodes before she got "burned out" while at a much slower pace than before which is hard to believe
Well lets see you work on 9 episodes of a daily web series.

>> No.43493545

>>43493391
the only thing i said that's up for debate is the asacoco one
the other ones are very verifiably true

>> No.43493642

>>43493528
she herself literally did for months without being burned out
and asacoco 3.0 wasn't daily
>>43493465
there's not 6 months between september and november retard

>> No.43493656

>>43493518
Actually Yagoo never wanted the China girls to leave. It was something they were forced to do.

>> No.43493698

>>43478786
Somebody fucking tell me if this Puerto Rican rodent is really a milf or not

>> No.43493721

>>43493642
So what makes you think that doing it for months wouldn't burn her out eventually.

>> No.43493728
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43493728

>>43493507
Ironically lefties hate center or A-political people more than literal Nazis

>> No.43493796

>>43493545
He's the thing, if one of your examples turned out to be false, then how are you so sure that the rest of them can't be false too?

>> No.43493839

>>43493728
Good thing they have literally 0 economic impact for the general populace, especially with vtubers. Ironic lefties should stick to anti-war rhetoric or whatever instead of hurt tranny feelings.

>> No.43493854

>>43493796
Here's*

>> No.43493897

Pippa is a way better symbol of western vtubing than Ironmouse.

>> No.43493933

>>43481524
Has vei made a response ?

>> No.43493954

>>43493721
because the "burnout" only started after the managers started demanding that they pre-screen it?
>>43493796
do you want me to link you the suspension announcement or the "oops sorry you got banned from coco's chat please fill in this form" announcement or a clip of coco saying she's not allowed to collab with EN?

>> No.43494117

>>43492688
Didn't Fubuki literally lose half of her income in her Bilibili channel and did not bat an eye over it just because she was the first one to mention Coco after the whole thing was just starting to blow up? I saw a pic about that whole mess in this very threat, it looked kind of based

>> No.43494214

>>43493656
I know, I'm not talking about dropping the CN branch, they were just side casualties tbqhdesu. I meant China market as a whole, they are the biggest consumer of anything otaku-related outside of Japan. Any normal businessman would've immediately drop the girl and save the entire market. I think that would've been the most logical thing to do at that moment, but their decision ultimately turned out to be the best.

>> No.43494213

>>43490615
>>43492688
retard(s?), go learn about diplomacy a little. As I've stated earlier, any description of Silver as "good" would be considered as pondering to lgbtretards, bending the knee, as it would be telling THEM that she is "good" because only THEY think she is bad in the context of the situation. Why do I even try to explain such basic things... on a fucking 4chan... to some stupidass anon... bruh.
That's it. Fuck off. If you still don't understand most basic shit, so be it. Fuck off.

Actually, there is a huge probability that you are a harasser-lgbtretard who already started attacking Mouse for her statement. And this means she did everything right.
BASED Mouse.
Get fucked, lgbtretard. (or, if you are not and just fucking stupid - go learn about diplomacy).

>> No.43494246

>>43493489
No it referred specifically to learning japanese and you're imposing some other faggot shit on it about a fucking tranny's deepest lore and it's not spoonfeeding either because she literally has a tweet where she says it's her twin brother, which she wouldn't do if they were trans because it would be her twin sister, which means it's her biological sister pretending to be a fucking man.

>> No.43494266

>>43493360
Trannies can’t fuck since they purposefully got rid of the needed equipment.

>> No.43494309

>>43493954
>because the "burnout" only started after the managers started demanding that they pre-screen it?
And where's your proof of this.
>do you want me to link you the suspension announcement or the "oops sorry you got banned from coco's chat please fill in this form" announcement or a clip of coco saying she's not allowed to collab with EN?
Honestly i'm surprised you didn't do that in the first place.
If you have proof then why not lead with it?

>> No.43494406

Newfag here. I heard the rat cheated on her baby daddy years ago. That true?

>> No.43494610

>>43493507
She posted tradwife porn though

>> No.43494617

>>43494309
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMiuR2Gga60
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1357648899494715396
can't find the suspension tweet because twitter search is ass or they deleted it but i hope we're not pretending she never got suspended

>> No.43494618

>>43493406
No chance. If anything she will bend the knee harder to trannys after this to avoid confrontation.

>> No.43494685

>>43493933
She liked some explicitly pro-Silver tweets

>> No.43494687

>>43494617 (me)
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1310182796862791681
here it is

>> No.43494701

>>43494617
Oh my god, who the fuck cares about this 2 year old shit. Vshojo is infighting RIGHT NOW.

>> No.43494802

>>43494701
you said it didn't happen

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43494837

>>43494213

>> No.43494972

>>43493406
A lot of Lgbt/leftie normies are sadly uncureable, they are the type of people who could literally be raped by a tranny or nigger and still defend them as ”misunderstood” or ”not representative of the whole group”. It’s very rare that they manage to break the deep indoctrination they’ve been put through in every aspect of their lives since childhood.

>> No.43495008

>>43493642
>she herself literally did for months without being burned out
>>43493954
>because the "burnout" only started after the managers started demanding that they pre-screen it?
She broke down horribly on stream because of asacoco taking her most of the night and having her wake up before 6AM, management had nothing to do with her burnout, they just neutered the jokes

>> No.43495011

>>43493406
it's 50/50
she will either be mind broken or become secret TERF despising trannies

>> No.43495021

>>43491311
>Why the fuck would she shill Connor then?
You never watch her?

>> No.43495087

>>43494406
Source?

>> No.43495290

>>43494617
That video isn't really much to go off of, especially considering EN girls did guest star in her Reddit meme reviews.
And as for that Tweet they did say that it happened but they also said it was a mistake and they corrected that mistake. There was also no mention of the Chinese.
>>43494687
The link in that Tweet is 404.
>>43494802
That Anon isn't me.

>> No.43495341

>>43494406
You must be thinking about Froot having sex with other men while her husband got deployed in the military.

>> No.43495483

>>43495290
are you trolling or just incredibly new?
they were allowed to collab only after she had decided to quit
and of course they won't admit to what the mistake was

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43496404

>>43493728
Christ and 1776 it is.
What's not to lolz.

>> No.43496517

>>43491062
>me and connor
connor groomed her well lmao

>> No.43496907

>Power of friendship *cringes*

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43497158

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMy5wDVG9AQ

>> No.43497217

>>43496404
Full pic?

>> No.43497482

>>43497217
>>>/aco/7080824

>> No.43497504

>>43495483
>they were allowed to collab only after she had decided to quit
You know you could have just provided this info without being a jackass.
>and of course they won't admit to what the mistake was
Actually they did. They said that people were getting banned from her stream for no reason.

>> No.43497539

>>43497482
Thanks Anon

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