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>one of the appeals of vtubing is that the girls could look like anything so you still have the illusion that you have a chance
>some absolute retard says this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3NBQqGQh6c
thanks a lot for the reality check, whore
that's definitely all I needed in my already miserable life

>> No.43713184

>>43713058
Sounds like you are an ugly bitch on the inside and the outside, anon. kys maybe

>> No.43713222

>>43713058
>He thought he had a chance
LMAO

>> No.43713228

>>43713058
u ugly lulz

>> No.43713247

>>43713058
Filian said that she's career ending ugly

>> No.43713300

>>43713058
kys ugly fatso

>> No.43713324

>>43713058
This woman is basically a retard who said "good looking people have good personalities"
How do twitch retards watch this garbage?

>> No.43713332

>>43713058
Cope and seethe in private next time.

>> No.43713373
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there's definitely ugly vtubers for ugly people like you. They're usually twitter activists that haven't debuted yet

>> No.43713395

>>43713247
She sounds exactly like Selen, so I wouldn't be surprised at all.

>> No.43713519

>>43713324
I mean, isn't that pretty accurate in a way?
>be good looking
>you're confident in your appearence
>talk to people more
>develop more social skills
>end up being more entertaining as a streamer

>> No.43713518

>>43713058
what do you mean? nijiEN are pretty successful

>> No.43713579

>>43713324
Watch the video again. She's a happy person. She interacts with other people that she doesn't even know positively. You do not. That's why she is successful and you are not.

>> No.43713689

>>43713395
you mean fat?

>> No.43713690

>>43713058
>Attractive people have good character
RUMAO
>Vtubers look like Models
DOUBLE RUMAO
The fact of the matter is that all the western whores who decided to become vtubers did so because they're too lazy to put on 10 layers of make up and a push up bra every stream. They wouldn't be able to compete against the thousands of fleshtubers that put in the effort every day.
Also the claim that you have a chance with a woman because they're ugly is retarded too. A fucking -5/10 cripple woman with mental retardation and 5 race mixed babies could go on tinder and find a mid status man that will fuck her. If you're a low status man you're destined to die a virgin in this day and age.

>> No.43713772

Isn't this the girl that admitted to being blacked recently?

>> No.43713817

>>43713058
Idk if Shondo is ugly or not but to quote her: "I HATE WOMEN!"

>> No.43714271

>>43713690
You sound like one of those western whores. Noticeable makeup is ugly as fuck. That's for prostitutes.
>muh white race
back to /pol/

>> No.43714536

>>43713579
She's very stupid and can barely speak English

>> No.43715150

>>43713058
What's the deal with that Pierre guy, he always posts clips of his own TTS messages

>> No.43715820

I lost brain cells listening to that stupid bitch spouting complete ignorance. Negative IQ stupid bitch (read woman) moment. She's stupid as fuck clearly and so are you if you can't spot the flaws in her "theory" lmao. From the top. Fundamental attribution error. Halo effect. Availability heuristics. Cognitive bias. There's more. Those are just the most obvious. Retarded bitch.

>> No.43715846

>>43713058
Lily has no charisma

>> No.43715895

I can see being attractive IRL being a positive trait for vtuber. Being attractive means you're more likely to end up being a confident person, you don't have any worry when confrontation comes up about "you're only vtubing b/c you're hideous"

>> No.43715977

>>43714271
Twitter wants you back, tranny. They miss you. Also you will never be a woman.

>> No.43716275

>>43713058
Ah yes such great personalities that mostly rely on cumbait for views.

>> No.43716722

>>43713058
how many has she actually seen IRL? What fucking echo-chamber is she in? Most are utterly AVERAGE, blend in the crowd looking, regardless of race/gender.

>> No.43716771

>>43716722
Numi and Bao mostly

>> No.43716825

>>43716771
>Bao
LOL

>> No.43716847

>>43713058
>one of the appeals of vtubing is that the girls could look like anything so you still have the illusion that you have a chance
no it isn't?

>> No.43716865

>>43713373
I fapped a lot to this hypocritical bitch cheating on her husband with a nerd who got himself a makeover. Good times.

>> No.43717194

Back when I was in high school, the most vicious and malicious students who engaged in the heaviest bullying always either had mediocre or outright ugly looks. The most athletically and academically successful students were always popular because they were the only ones with the social clout to push back against the group above. Sure enough, the mid/ugly-looking bully group were the first to claim good-looking people must have shallow/shit personalities. I have no idea if this is still the case in high schools today but that was my experience and I see it reflected a lot in this thread.

>> No.43717499

>>43713058
Explain Mito.
Explain Deron.
Explain Pomu.
Explain Selen.
Explain Fulgur.
Explain Millie.
Explain Mysta.
Explain Ren.
...

I could continue on for a good long while with just Niji's alone. And before you numberfags start, they're still in the top 0.1% of vtubers, so all things considered, yes they are succesful. And ugly. lmao

>> No.43717616

>>43717194
Looks just aren't a good way to measure someone's character.
In the past, ugly people had to develop character but in the modern age there is so many variations of "this ugly thing about you is actually beautiful" that it doesn't happen as much.
Now it might actually seem like good looking people have better character.

>> No.43717623

>>43713058
Everytime I see a clip of this stupid whore I wish more and more that she dies of cancer

>> No.43717666

>>43717623
Damn you ugly too?

>> No.43717765

>>43713058
bae is someone who doesnt know to abuse the halo effect. picturesque irl but boring to watch.

>> No.43717913

>>43717194
lmao i've seen both of them do the same horrible shit. only silver lining is that the less athletic ones is not as violent as the athletes

>> No.43717966

>>43713324
Better looking people tend to have better personalities. It's not always the case, but the nicest people I've ever met have mostly been good looking.

>> No.43718068

>>43713395
You sound like a retarded bastard

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>>43713058
woman moment

>> No.43718144

>>43713689
Your ego is fat

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>>43713058
>so you still have the illusion that you have a chance
nigga really?

>> No.43719056

This is bait thread to post fatso Mori, right?

>> No.43719171

>>43716825
???

>> No.43719243

>>43713058
Kiara.
Mori.

>> No.43719396

>>43713058
>Donating to these whores

>> No.43719398

>>43713689
Selene is weird. She doesn't sound just fat, she sounds "second generation asian girl who is a weeb and was bullied in high school" fat, its incredibly specific.

>> No.43719447

>>43715977
Both of you need to go back

>> No.43719460

>>43713690
Based and true, Western women are shit

>> No.43719525
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>>43719398
selen my beloved

>> No.43719540

SELEN ISN'T FAT YOU FUCKERS
KILL YOURSELF SHYLILY UGLY CUNT

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>>43719540

>> No.43719635

>>43719540
obese is a better word

>> No.43719774

>>43719540
Selen is fatter than Borger women I know, cope uggo

>> No.43719843

>>43719540
Damn, I wanna cover her folds in gavy and slam my meat between them

>> No.43719938

>>43717499
POMU is cute though

>> No.43720103

>>43713058
I think like half the people in america are obese or overweight so it is kind of weird to have barely any fatties if you think about it

>> No.43720137

>>43715977
>>43714271
these are both from pol. these things will crawl the entire website to bring everyone into their fetish conflict.

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>>43719540
your lies will not resonate with me

>> No.43720284

>>43713058
All the Hololive EN bitches are ugly if their supposed photos are anything to go by, and JP bitches are ugly on average in general. "Model" vtubers are outliers just like they are in the general population.

>> No.43720403

>>43713058
does she realize the irony of what she is saying?

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>>43713247
But Filian has personality and seems like a fun girl to be around so I could let her looks slide.
Hell I just don't care anymore, I rather have a girl who considers herself career ending ugly than chase after a high maintenance 10/10. Because at least with a women with low to no self esteem I can build her confidence and make her feel like a 10 and treat her like she's the only girl around.
I've done it before and I'll goddamn do it again if I get the chance.

>> No.43720505

>>43720421
Filian is a feminist cunt who bitches about Andrew Tate every stream as if he is about to burst into her room and sell her into slavery, shit got old fast

>> No.43720610

>>43717499
mito is an cute goblin

>> No.43720665

>>43720505
To be fair, she's not wrong

>> No.43720723

Anybody that doesn't think "who?" when they hear some random guys name want's to bang that guy

>> No.43720724

>>43713058
That could be true but
>Mori
>Ina

>> No.43720755

>>43713058
I swear most western vtubers are fat as fuck. The asian ones I'd agree with.
>>43713247
As much as we gas up women's attractiveness as the be all end all, if a girl is fit and has an amusing personality it's basically easy mode. So unless filian's a burn victim, she'd still be pretty hot. The bar is real fucking low in the hambeast era.

>> No.43720821

>>43720505
The only thing objectionable about bringing up Tate is that he's a dishonest boring grifter faggot that isn't even worth mentioning

>> No.43720834

>>43719056
Well then where is it??

>> No.43720919

>>43720755
This, you’d basically have to have leper or something with a personality this energetic

>> No.43720951

>>43720505
Welp feminist would be my final challenge I guess. I could do it, it'll be tiring and probably fruitless but I could do it.

>> No.43721053

if you are pretty on the inside, you will be pretty on the outside :}

>> No.43721056

She's right

>> No.43721166

>>43713058
Interesting, she kinda sounds like she's more comfortable nowadays with her regular voice than before when she was clearly pulling a Veibae/Nyanners voice, also looks like she now uses less of a coomerbait humor and tone and more of a post-nut clarity more sober humor, kinda makes me wanna watch her

>> No.43721189

>>43721166
shut the fuck up lily nobody likes you

>> No.43721202

Who actually wants to fuck real people? That’s disgusting.

>> No.43721209

This is the girl who copied Senzawa's Twitter pfp. Then stole Gura's shrimp gimmick and even use the shrimp png that Gura drew herself and uses on stream. And she's a whore. What a loser

>> No.43721338

>>43721209
her entire personality is just copied from other people, you can tell she's never had an original thought in her life

>> No.43721383

>>43721166
>uses less of a coomerbait
Whole design is coomerbait retard

>> No.43721440

>>43721202
Well the act of any intimate activity is disgusting to a degree but once monkey brain is active, standards and hygiene don't exactly matter anymore.

>> No.43721487

>>43721209
Wait for real? She calls her fans shrimps and uses an artwork drawn by gura directly?

>> No.43721648

>>43721189
Leave my Oshi alone and go back to your 2view

>> No.43721839

>>43721648
your oshi is a disgusting whore

>> No.43721931

>>43718535
That's not at all how I see it but I guess I can understand how someone could think that.
For me the illusion is something else.
Since there's the seperation of chuuba and rm, I feel comfortable giving a woman I haven't seen the impression they're making me crazy for them and want to fuck them raw

>> No.43722044

>>43713058
KEK wtf this is one of the most braindead tone-deaf things I've seen someone say in a while. Shylily actually thinks successful vtubers are all extroverts irl who have social experience? What? That's so plainly objectively incorrect that I don't even know how you could come to this conclusion. It's well known that many of the most popular/successful vtubers are not extroverted at all, just look at Gura or Pekora for example. Also imagine thinking that being physically attractive somehow means you have 'good character' by default, you couldn't be more wrong. There's absolutely no correlation between being attractive and having good character and there's even less of a correlation between vtubers being successful and being extroverted. Not to mention the idea that all the successful vtubers look attractive irl is most likely untrue anyway.

>> No.43722097

>>43713373
Every single person I've met who loves to post this image is like a 6/10 and up their own ass because they work out once a month and cry about wanting to retvrn to something.
Insane shit.

>> No.43722284

Thanks, I want to watch her more now that I know she has a pretty good head on her shoulders too.

>> No.43722387

>>43717499
>explain corpo vtubers
her entire experience is indies, and popular indie chuubas tend to either have very good personalities/charisma, or aren't ugly and can coast on that

>> No.43722483

>>43713689
No, Canadian.

>> No.43722505
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>>43722387
>popular indie chuubas tend to either have very good personalities/charisma

>> No.43722558

>>43722044
>There's absolutely no correlation between being attractive and having good character
>Source: my feelings would be hurt if there were

>> No.43722588

>>43722505
you're thinking of meatbags, because indie chuubas really need at least a drop of personality, otherwise you end up like the whore who thought changing to a busty model would give her more views
https://twitter.com/Shizukougames

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orcat <3

>> No.43722733

>>43713058
is she always this obnoxious and unlikable?

>> No.43722805

Also, basic statistics: it is more likely that you will be a successful Vtuber if you have some level of charisma; you are more likely to be charismatic if you regularly practice interacting with people positively; you are more likely to have positive interactions with people if you are physically attractive.
A random successful Vtuber is likely to be more physically attractive than another random person.

>> No.43722891

>>43722558
your physical appearance is not determined by your personality, it's just randomly genetically determined and you have no control over how you naturally look. Your personality has no relation to your appearance whatsoever. I guess you could say maybe 'ugly people get treated worse and this worsens their personality/attractive people get treated better by default' but this defeats your argument and still doesn't necessarily correlate or mean that being treated better all the time makes you behave better, it could also just turn you into a narcissist. If you think some dumb shit like 'attractive people are attractive because they were born with good souls and this turns them attractive' then that's just childish and retarded.

>> No.43723154

>>43722805
I might believe this if so many vtubers and streamers weren't insufferable

>> No.43723204

>>43722805
why is Gura the most popular vtuber when she is a spergy weirdo that doesn't interact with people then? What charisma does Ina have? Or how about Mumei? Mumei is peak autism and sometimes just mumbles and rambles through her streams and has talked about how sometimes she goes days not speaking to anyone. What about Pippa? Or Pomu? They're also introverted spergy weirdos. Pekora, who is famously antisocial? Aqua? It's just not true that the successful vtubers are 'charismatic' (at least in a normie traditional sense) or that they regularly practice interacting with people irl.

>> No.43723248

Selection bias would play a big role here, doesn't it? The people most likely to be doxxed are successful vtubers, and that knowledge - that they are successful, famous, or liked by other people - inherently biases people into considering them physically attractive even if they're not far from the mean. It's just how monkey brains work and why women swoon for serial killers and Benedict Cumberbatch.

>> No.43723365

Girls with good personality are always 10/10

>> No.43723390

>>43723248
the truth is that lily thinks herself and her ugly friends are much more attractive than they actually are

>> No.43723399

>>43717616
t. ugly nerd

>> No.43723450

>>43723399
t. ugly nerd

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>>43713058
She not wrong either. Have you all seen Yuzu? Jesus Fucking Christ.

>> No.43723541

>>43722891
Personality and looks are inherited from your parents and ancestors. Cope harder you genetic failure, maybe VR will save you.

>> No.43723630

>>43723519
I haven't, no. Is she really hot or well... not?

>> No.43723655

>>43723519
Eiffel tower...

>> No.43723662

>>43722387
the problem with successful indies is that they started as e-thots on twitch and have been successful before debuting as a vtuber.

>> No.43723673

>>43723630
Google her. She's outrageously hot.

>> No.43723676

>>43723630
she's a generic cow caked behind 20 layers of makeup

>> No.43723907

>>43717499
>mito, pomu, millie
>ugly
do your reps

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>all these literal whos
>people are doxxfags for them
im glad you freaks stay away from hololive

>> No.43724024

>>43723962
>doxxfags
no doxxing needed, these girls love posting selfies of themselves to show off how mediocre they look

>> No.43724106

>>43723662
didn't shylily do old-school gayming fleshstreams (camera to body, no face) for like 15 people before getting a model? she wasn't a whore, she was something worse, a wow player

>> No.43724133

>>43723541
Okay I will put you in jail, of your parents commit a crime to prevent you from doing the same

>> No.43724247

>>43724106
and I don't know what she looks like irl

>> No.43724312

>>43724247
does it even matter at this point? she's a whore, period, stop talking about her

>> No.43724331

>>43724247
I'm willing to bet money she's ugly as fuck

>> No.43724365

>>43724312
veibaechama...
stop being so jealous...

>> No.43724450

>>43722097
It's true though. It's like when depressed people are just egotistic people who value their own suffering over anything else.

>> No.43724455

>>43724331
sisterchama, did you know she collabed with vox? that means she has more of a chance with him than you

>> No.43724483

I hate the fact that this hobby has been flooded by all these normalfags and doxxfags who make no distinction between the chuuba and the person. I don't give a fuck about the person behind the avatar, the character and the illusion is all that matters and it's supposed to be roleplaying. All of these indies/small corpo/twitch chuubas who want to use vtubing as just some fun side gig to show themselves off and all of their fans who think vtubers should 'be themselves' are all fucking cancer and should never have been welcomed into this hobby. Threads like this with people casually discussing the people behind the avatars shouldn't even be allowed to exist.

>> No.43724533

>>43724331
She's short and has zero figure. I bet her face is just plain. An overall disappointing package.
Even shortstack Ironmouse has huge tits.

>> No.43724556

>>43724483
cope, holocel, I don't like this stupid german whore either, but if she makes you seethe, fine by me

>> No.43724749

>>43713058
she isn't wrong

>> No.43724799

>>43724749
>woman say things and do rants like this
>2 months later: How could chad date rape me wtf!?
Pottery

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>Person works out, cares about not looking like a slob, clearly shows that they have discipline and good sense of self worth
>UH ACTUALLY YOU CAN'T MAKE JUDGEMENTS FROM PEOPLE'S APPEARANCE

They say body and mind are connected. Physiognomy is real.

>> No.43724991

>>43724556
>holocel
They discuss roommates all the time wtf are you talking about

>> No.43725032

>>43724906
I person am excited for the streamer Ted Bundy

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a lot of real people are ugly, there is nothing unusual about it. what is even the point of having an argument?

>> No.43725138

>>43713058
lol what she means is that everyone tells them they look like models. we've all seen PL pictures of these women due to their social media, they aren't fucking models. then again, with the rise of Instagram influencers the word model has lost all meaning

>> No.43725202

>>43722097
>the picture isn't true because you're ugly
Ironic how you are proving it right like that.

>> No.43725256

>>43714536
>she manages to be successful even though she has a language debuff
Keep praising her.

>> No.43725283

>>43725202
>>43725256
Why so desperate for (You)'s?

>> No.43725508

She's right in a way, but ugly people often develop a great personality to compensate -- just look at comedians. Attractive people in my experience are often boring, especially women, since they're so used to being pampered. It's always ugly dudes who have the most interesting hobbies in my experience

>> No.43725643

Literally just confirmation bias, of course the Vtubers who are actually showing their face are attractive, if they were ugly, they have nothing to gain and everything to lose by showing their face.

>> No.43725701

>>43720284
>T. Jealous trannie

>> No.43725809

>>43725643
lily is too dumb to realize this, she thinks that herself and her mid looking whore friends are actually pretty

>> No.43725931

There's definitive proof that as your attractiveness increases so does your chances for sociopathy

>> No.43725954

>>43723630
>>43723673
>>43723676
One on these anon is a regular guy, the other is a jealous sis

>> No.43726003

>>43713058
Retard take, but honestly I don’t expect a stripper to write me a thesis is quantum mechanics so I don’t expect shylili to do anything more sophisticated than wiggle her tits.
Mori, selen, botan, gura completely NUKE her theory

>> No.43726008

>>43713579
Lotta assumptions there retard.

>> No.43726255

>>43726003
/thread

>> No.43726515

>>43713058
>Sana
>Mori
>Gura
>nyanners
>all the fat girls in JP
>Ame
>Kiara

>> No.43726620

>>43720284
Mori WAS hot as fuck in 2018. Bae and Mumei are both really good looking. Ina isn't bad looking.

>> No.43727299

>>43725931
Chloe...

>> No.43727382 [DELETED] 

>>43713058
>its a twitchnigger with the most retarded take of all time episode
And what a surprise, its a whore that would be spreading her pussy for a monthly ban to stay relevant if she wasnt a vtuber

>> No.43727643

>>43716722
She's in the same group as numi and bao so you can probably expect that she's met Sinder, Trickywi,aruu, yuzu etc.

>> No.43727728

>>43720284
Kiara's face literally looks like a humanoid parakeet and mori could probably get a new career as a bad sumo wrestler.

>> No.43727770 [DELETED] 

>>43726620
>Ina isn't bad looking.
She's the typical gook woman that looks 40 even if shes 20. She's not good looking

>> No.43727795

>>43720951
You always think that until you've heard that you're mansplaining every time she's doing something stupid and can't cope with the fact she's a pretty moron. Just know when to end it and you'll probably be fine

>> No.43727853

>>43727643
she hasn’t met them irl because shes euro but she’s definitely seen pics of tricky yuzu and aruu at least dunno about sindy

>> No.43727922

>>43723390
Tricky's the only outlier from that group, Numi too even with the personality debuff but the rest are the definition of 5.5/10

>> No.43728015

>>43727643
She's 100% met Nihmune irl, the others idk.

>> No.43728380

>>43727922
Would agree with that. Most of their look average. Depending what you are into maybe even above average but not borderline models. I would say most of them are easy 5/10. Tricky and Numi being the outliers here with scoring above average.

>> No.43728677

>>43713247
Latinas can be ugly and still be super charismatic and sexual. Angloids don't get such privilege.

>> No.43728743

>>43717499
Selena is a cute fat Asian those are in demand.

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>>43713058
I get what she's saying. Who cares, m8. It's all in good fun. Don't do stupid shit, be kind to yourself and be kind to others, okay?

>> No.43728928

>>43722805
This falls apart once you take it out of a vacuum because it's a double-edged sword. Becoming a streamer in general, let alone the niche of a vtuber, is a massively losing bet and less than 0.01% make any sort of living or fame from it. On the other hand, being actually, naturally attractive IRL opens doors and tips the scales if you're considered next to someone with equivalent qualifications, for anything ranging from social groups to leadership positions to jobs. The same things that are supposed to make you charismatic are the same things that eat up your time, energy and commitments and make for overwhelmingly better alternatives pulling you away from even starting to sit in a bedroom talking to five people online (if you're lucky).
More likely everyone is simply average-looking but has at least decent aesthetic sense, which you do need to not be an MS paint or uncanny valley vtuber and filter people at the first hurdle. Then that aesthetic sense is applied to yourself if you actually have an incentive to look decent, which people then look at through celebrity-tinted glasses because they're already invested.

>> No.43731257

Fuck Lily

>> No.43731787

>>43713058
Overall, she's right.
Always be exceptions.
And Gura is cute as fuck.

>> No.43731834

>>43713058
Terrible and stupid theory Shylily. Attractive people got personality and character? I can't take this shit serious. I know plenty of girls who are ugly ass fuck but if it wasn't for their personality I wouldn't of talked to them in the first place.

I would like her to explain how what she says fits my wives I have in my head, Enna Alouette and Rushia. They seem to contradict her perspective.

>> No.43731877

>>43713772
What does that even mean? It also says yakked. No idea what that means either. I just saw that video too and she didn't mark that down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkJv6-QqOMY

>> No.43731887

>>43727770
Sorry, Ina is cute. Looks near 40? You are just hating now.

>> No.43732004

>>43717499
>>43719938
When she was younger. If she looks like those other later years during her idol days I don't think so and what a blow too from cute to what happened. She might look better right now too or worse.

>> No.43732011

>>43713058
She's been also posting IRL photos. You should know she's a hottie by now.

>> No.43732014

>>43713058
More than half of holo JP looks very average and they are infinitely better entertainers than Lily. This bitch should just not use words at all because she is just spouting shit that I'm not even sure she understands.

>> No.43732067

I've seen Fubuki's rm pictures and I think she's unattractive
But at the same time, I think she's one of the most beautiful people in terms of both her voice and personality, one of the cutest girls in the world and her #1 cutest girl ranking in some magazine or whatever that one time was well-deserved

I don't completely agree with shylily's theory but I do think she's onto something and Fubuki's example doesn't contradict that theory
If you're approachable, fun, likable, and kind-hearted, or at least a good enough combination of the above, then I don't think you necessarily need attractiveness also thrown in there to get that "lots of social interactions and experiences developing your personality and character compared to other people" blend that makes vtubers successful

>> No.43732334

>>43725643
What you're describing is called survivorship bias, not confirmation bias - the girls who are more successful showing their faces have a confounding variable of the likeliness that girls who are attractive to begin with show their faces anyway, which skews the apparent correlation between being successful and being attractive

But confirmation bias probably plays a part as well - that would be shylily, in believing this theory to be true, leans towards thinking about and choosing only examples of successful girls who have shown their faces and are attractive, rather than providing a dispassionate analysis about girls who are successful and girls who are attractive

>> No.43732820

>>43713058
She's right though? a person's outside is simply the mirror of your insides, so if you are an ugly fuck chances are you are just as miserable and unpleasant to be around as your appearence and I'm tired of pretending that you are all humans, you're not, you are a genetic defect and as soon as these faulty genes get ridden off in the genetic pool, the better

>> No.43733014

>>43713058
I lost braincells watching this.
There are plenty of ugly sucessful vtubers.
Mori, Okayu, Selen, Polka and Enna to name a few.

Attractivess is what everyone should strive for if they want to be liked but it doesn't define if it's a good person or not.

>> No.43733073

>>43731787
She's a jewish goblina

>> No.43733198

>>43732820
It's so self-contradictory to go "genetics are everything" and then instantly refuse to acknowledge that just by being here after four hundred generations and countless eliminations, everyone walking the earth right now is de facto a genetic badass.

>> No.43733259

>>43713058
attractive people simply know how to handle compliment, because they used to get it. ugly people can't

>> No.43733332

>>43732820
True. It's just like the Koreans say:
"Physiognomy is science."
That's why all gooks get plastic surgery, to hide their rotten insides.

>> No.43733394

>>43732820
you first retard

>> No.43733495

>>43719774
Are you sure? Cus the average burger woman is 80 kilo

>> No.43733579

>>43713247
Little sisters are cute for what they are, not for how they look. I don't think it'd be that bad. And I sorta think it's most likely just exaggerated anyways for the funny.

>> No.43733590

>>43720505
Andrew Tate and vtubers have a huge thing in common. Both farm low value men with self esteem issues.

>> No.43733777

>>43733198
Hah, that's a pretty good point. Imagine how fucking sad humanity woulda been in the past if that were actually true.

>> No.43733812

>>43713058
Anon have you seen the people she said were beautiful
her standards are low and one look at the people she's talking about will tell you that

>> No.43733880

>>43723519
She looks like a generic, mildly attractive in photos, Asian chick. There's thousands of them on ig.
7/10 if I'm feeling generous, dropping it to 5/10 because she's a whore (see >>43723655)

>> No.43734001

>>43723519
You haven't seen her without the makeup have you anon

>> No.43734032

Are zoomer really this pathetic...? We are doomed.

>> No.43734185

>>43733394
>uggo having his feelings hurt
You will never be human fucking ugly

>> No.43734412

>>43734185
i'm sure you're really hot and fuck a lot and that's why you have nothing better to do than reply to catalogue bait on /vt/ at 7 am on a friday

>> No.43734949

>>43713058
There's plenty of uggo vtubers. Including some in Niji and Hololive.

>> No.43735009

>>43719938
>>43723907
Pomu might have looked cute at one point. She looks like absolute shit now.

>> No.43735078

>>43713247
Must explain why I don't watch her

>> No.43735148

>>43713058
Just keep working out bro, it may not fix your face but can help everywhere else

>> No.43735152

Extremely retarded normalfag take, the appeal of vtubing is that you don't have to give a single fuck about whatever 3DPD is behind the chuuba

>> No.43735172

>>43733198
darwinian selection says nothing about the quality of life, only the probability of survival

>> No.43735249

>>43713324
She didn't say this. She was talking about charisma. Being a streamer isn't about being a good person, it's about being charismatic.

>> No.43735292

My oshi is supposedly chonky and ugly but I don't care, I'd date her in a heartbeat.
Honestly what Lily said is against what vtubers taught me, I always thought it was a good thing how with an anime avatar you would start realizing personality is all that matters, looks are irrelevant in the end, then some whore says this dumb shit.

>> No.43735459

>>43713247
Filian also has a harem of thirsty bisexual vtubers so who knows

>> No.43735549

>>43713324
>Attractive people are confident
The fact that you think this is a controversial statement is telling

>> No.43735589

>Please note that discussion should pertain to a VTuber's streams and content, and should not pertain to their real lives, relationships, or appearances ("IRL").
Nigger thread.

>> No.43735766

>>43735292
It's okay, Botan lost 17 kilograms recently

>> No.43735786

>>43716722
I think she's seen numi,bao and oni irl who are cute Asian girls and probably knows what nyanners and trickwy look like by just googling and maybe she assumes veibae is pretty because she seduced soda

>> No.43735917

>>43720103
She is German and most vtubers she met irl were European and Asian Americans

>> No.43736030

>>43713058
>doxxfag honeypot thread

>> No.43736101

>>43720505
There is a difference between bitching and making fun, she makes jokes and impressions but ultimately never cries, dunno why you are trying to paint a picture of her being an obnoxious sjw when she is actively hunted for doing a George Floyd joke not even 90% of 4chan would dare do in public and also accused of inviting 4chan people to vr parties

>> No.43736535

>>43735766
sad isn't it?

>> No.43737262

>>43736030
I don’t see any doxxing

>> No.43739536

>>43735766
>>43736535
a-architect bros...?

>> No.43740076

>>43735589
Then they shouldn’t talk about it

>> No.43740553

>>43727728
>mori could probably get a new career as a bad sumo wrestler
But sumo wrestlers have muscle too

>> No.43741842

>>43717623
t. Ugly person

>> No.43741935

>>43728677
Lia Likers know.

>> No.43741996

>>43723204
Gura and Mumei have above average looks, stop coping.

>> No.43742049

>>43724483
I don't watch ugly people.

>> No.43742124

>>43735766
She and Ollie are the only Holos that have brought up literal doctors concerned about their lifestyle and health. Both are definitely in the obese categories.

>> No.43742179

>>43713058
I wish to tickle her butthole with my penis.

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>>43742124
Wasn't Korone on a big ol' break and had her stream times limited for a good long while because her doctor said she got some sort of nerve sickness or somesuch because of it?

>> No.43742821

>>43741996
Gura's a light skinned fat Jewish girl with curly hair. There's like 2 pictures where she look decent but only because they have been altered to hell and back.

>> No.43743600

>>43713058
What a disturbing reason to watch vtubers. Is everything sexual to you? Can you look at no one without thinking "hmm, I would/n't tap that" or "Boy I sure hope I can get a female to validate my existence today"? You need therapy anon.
>>43717623
You are a deranged, bitter loser.

>> No.43743684

>>43713058
Woman confuses her heavily photoshopped instagram pics with her actual face, news at 11.

>> No.43743732

>>43725283
Many of them are actually this retarded.

>> No.43743803

>>43720137
Bruh you can't even write the board names correctly, stop pretending you're not literally a newfag.

>> No.43743805

>>43743600
Hi, Lily! Guess everyone truly is /here/, huh?

>> No.43744032

>>43720505
She dissed Top G?
Women am I right? They hate what they can't have

>> No.43744195

>>43713058
>it's another Lily being retarded episode

>> No.43744278

There are more women in this thread than i have ever spoken to

>> No.43744390

>>43713058
How the fuck are you even attracted to ugly women?
>because you're ugly
Just because you're poor doesn't mean you would enjoy eating shit.

>> No.43744576

>>43740076
So because Shylily commented on vtubers IRL appearences during her own stream you are allowed to bring up any vtuber and discuss their appearences even if they are totally unrelated? Great.

>> No.43744616

>>43724483
Treating the difference between vtuber and the person behind them as this huge sacred secret is a distinctly western concept and it’s embarrassing. Japan doesn’t do it, in fact even outside Japan it’s mostly a 4chan thing.

>> No.43744708

>>43744278
>women

>> No.43744935

>>43713058
shes literally a fatty lol

>> No.43745039

>>43744935
huh?
https://twitter.com/shylilytwitch/status/1580904961004560384

>> No.43745162

>>43745039
Thats a chonker. Look at her flabby stomach and legs. She's not american fat but shes still fat.

>> No.43745279

>>43713058
Wait so is that why bao doesn't do well? Because she's hideous

>> No.43745280

So how do you eat your PB&Js?

>> No.43745804

>>43745162
Seek help you anorexic fuck

>> No.43745903

>>43713579
She's successful because of her fat tits and Vei being a retard.

>> No.43745911

I don't like when ``vtubers'' talk about their "real" appearance. It's missing the point. I want to watch a character, not a regular streamer with an elaborate avatar.

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>>43743600
Woman detected. Opinion rejected.

>> No.43746715 [SPOILER] 

Test?

>> No.43749818

>>43713058
well this whore just lost a fan. this was the most stupid take, otherwise Mori or Kiara would have 0 views

>> No.43750906

>>43713058
This cunt only got big because Vei's most parasocial fans got upset that she got a boyfriend (who is rich) and made it known publicly. So they started following her because at the time, she was straight up copying Vei's voice after her redebut (She eventually stopped using her voice). The ironic thing she has a boyfriend as well.

>> No.43751002

>>43745911
what do you expect when e-sluts like shylily jump onto the vtubing scene because they were too ugly for flesh streams

>> No.43751033

>>43713058
What is her accent?

>> No.43751056

>>43744576
yep, seethe about it

>> No.43751137

>>43743600
Everything is basically about sex. Aside from acquiring food and shelter people try to get sex. Before private property all of society was based upon sexual relations with one another. Is your family is people you don't fuck.

>> No.43751189

>>43751033
I think she's dutch

>> No.43751258

>>43713058
>one of the appeals of vtubing is that the girls could look like anything so you still have the illusion that you have a chance
idk what you are talking about OP but lily is a stupid cunt regardless so whatever

>> No.43751265

>>43751189
Oh gross.

>> No.43751811

>>43751137
>what is honor, virtue, camaraderie, self-sacrifice, self-fulfillment, and charity.
I hate internet incels so much.
Not because they have self-confidence issues or because theyre ugly or unsuccessful. Plenty of people are those things, including me.

I hate them because they have this same low-level ooga booga coomer-brain mentality that you described. They live life comparing anything and everything to the act of sex and sexual prowess, as if thats how we should be, no better than mongrel dogs or chimps.

>> No.43751827

>>43713058
She has a very good point though.
We've all met attractive people who are insufferable, but the nicest people you know are generally also able to take care of themselves and are usually at least somehow attractive.
I'd say it's the other way around. Not every attractive person is a pleasant human being, but inner ugliness more often than not manifests outwardly.

>> No.43751947

>>43751827
kill yourself lily

>> No.43752003

>>43724906
I hate to be this guy but
>"lol work out"
Doesn't actually change a lot. If you're below 6ft, have an average or smaller cock, or have in general bad genetics. No amount of working out will ever actually matter. You could be giga shredded and the lanky 6'3 burnout stoner who's never lifted a 5lb dumbell would be picked over you every single day of the week. You basically either win the genetic lotto or you're fucked.

>> No.43752245

>>43742821
I like that look especially on a smol girl. Too bad she doesn't have Khazar milkers.

>> No.43752308

>>43745039
She cut too much off. Noooooo!

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>>43752003
You're so fucking brainrotted, he didn't even say anything about being able to get bitches. He literally just said anyone who works out
>cares about not looking like a slob, clearly shows that they have discipline and good sense of self worth
If you're putting in the effort to workout, you obviously want to take care of yourself, and that shit shows. Bitches or not, it's important to take care of your body and mental health.
Hit the squatrack, bobo

>> No.43752474

>>43751033
>>43751189
German living in Netherlands. Like Kiara, Germanics like poop.

>> No.43752883

>>43744032
>There are unironically andrew tate fans on 4chan
This site really needs a way to filter
underages

>> No.43753433

She's partially right, but also partially wrong.
Attractive people do get more social interactions, but they're always positive/nice interactions, so they're always playing on easy mode. Their charisma is thinly veiled.

>> No.43753508

>>43753433
Exactly why vtubers who have that natural advantage also have a tendency to break easily under criticism when they release a bad cover or a bad joke escapes her fanbase. There are exceptions from people who've had family issues or have dealt with some shitty backstabby friends though, but for the most part they're a bit more thin skinned than an uggo who's been kicked down and used vtubing as an escape

>> No.43753640

>>43751811
Those concepts are idealist. They are the creation of a brain of an animal who needs to fed, sheltered, and reproduce. I'm not an incel, I actually have had past fulfilling romantic relationships and am still on good terms with said parties. I'm a materialist that simple. Mankind's relationships were based on sexlove for most of its occupation of this planet.

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>>43752003
How does it always come back to fucking dick size? Who even actually cares? Average is the average for a reason and women don't care. I fucking hate incels oh my god

>> No.43754550

>>43752003
>AIYEEEEE I CAN'T ATTRACT BOTTOM OF THE BARREL SHALLOW LOSER STONER BITCHES WHO VALUE SUPERFICIAL TRAITS, MY LIFE IS RUINED. THE WEST HAS TRULY FALLEN

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>>43752003
Dude just fuck fat chicks. It's that simple. I took the fat chick pill a long time ago and haven't looked back. I was once like you complaint about being short, out of shape, small penis'd, autistic. Then I met chubby girls who don't care about that shit.

>> No.43754845

>>43752003
The average male height in the US is 5'9" more than half of adult men are in a relation ship. Most have had a relationship at some time.
You can also wear lifts, or take Viagra (I do both)

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>>43754845
>The average male height in the US is 5'9"
I'm gonna make it, bros!

>> No.43755297

The irony of this thread getting so big, cause most of /vt/ are ugly incels taking offense is funny as fuck

>> No.43755389

>>43751947
Boohoo did some girl point out how ugly you are anon, or are you just a virgin

>> No.43755473

>>43745162
She's hot as fuck. You are a low test retard. Post some chicks you've banged that are hotter.

>> No.43755661

>>43752474
Yummy.

>> No.43756388

>>43745039
Reminder that she had a meltdown on Twitter because someone had the audacity to recognize her at an amusement park using the easily recognizable traits she voluntarily posted herself

>> No.43756830

>>43713058
>bob says poor people are just dum as fuck
>joe answers "well, to be fair, not all of-"
>bob smirks "did I hit that singular nerve inside your poor stupid head?"
this thread

>> No.43757018

>>43713324
>I like Vtubers because they don't act like twitch thots
>

>> No.43757662

>>43744616
The ones who invented the whole separation of the chuuba were the Japanese retard. And in places like hololives you literally get suspended if you doxx yourself.

>> No.43759079

>>43751137
Sounds like good cope to justify you being a sex-obsessed virgin. You only say that because your life is shit and the only feel-good dopamine you can easily achieve is sexual feelings and masturbation.

>> No.43760037

>>43713247
Even if she was she’s definitely not some fatty like the majority of acne ridden whale-sized sea monkeys on this site. She’s clearly athletic and 99% of vtubers couldn’t do the things she does on stream

>> No.43760631

People that disagree arent jaded enough.
Almost everything in your life is determined at birth.
All aspects of your life are so tightly intertwined, personality and attractiveness included, that they are impossible to untangle.
Reach 25+ and you'll understand shes right.

>> No.43761217

>>43713247
she has pictures of herself on twitter what are you on about
https://twitter.com/shylilytwitch/status/1580904961004560384?s=20

>> No.43761360

>>43717499
I have never seen even one clip of any of those literal whos please be quiet

>> No.43761683

>>43761217
i think he's talking about filian talking about herself, not filian talking about lily

>> No.43762567

>>43745162
What? she looks skinny af

>> No.43762661

>>43755473
He probably can't even pull a girl so he can't KEK

>> No.43762696

>>43761217
>pictures of herself
>doesn't even show her face
the fuck?

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>>43762696
Best of both worlds, you get to know your oshi is hot as fuck but you don't have the most important part of kayfabe broken

>> No.43763083

Any man who is still a virgin past the age of 25, unless they are staying pure for religious reasons but could easily get laid at any time, or are asexual, is a huge loser who should consider suicide.

>> No.43763274

>>43719540
Selen…

>> No.43763359

>>43745039
>Vtubers whose bellybuttons you would violate repeatedly

>> No.43764161

>>43756388
Musta not been chad

>> No.43764246

what is this thing about selen being fat? no one knows what she looks like irl as far as I know

>> No.43764439

>>43713058
what she says makes a lot of sense tho,
even a fugly irl vtuber develops charisma from talking to chat

>> No.43764517

>>43713058
I think most attractive people become fleshtubers or influencers nowadays. Hell they get invited to the red carpet, if that has meaning anymore. But she is not wrong. You will obviously be approached more if you are eyecatching and have more confidence in yourself.

>> No.43764584

>>43764439
>>43764517
Why samefag this hard? I bet more than half the posts in this thread are You.

>> No.43764683

>>43764584
>150ip
That was my first post. Meds.

>> No.43764713

Someone said she was into bbc but I'm guessing it was a lie since I haven't seen any proof. Unfortunate.....

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nenechi #1 most beautiful vtuber

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>>43744616
Shut the fuck up newfag

>> No.43764842

>>43763083
Nah, Im going to stay alive and piss you off.
Robowaifus are coming. Not leaving until I fuck one.

>> No.43764934

>>43717499
>Explain Pomu.
not even ugly
>Explain Selen.
just need to lose weight to get hot
>Explain Fulgur.
just need to lose weight to look ok
>Explain Millie.
actually cute and has boobs
>Explain Mysta.
fair
>Explain Ren.
handsome by emo girls standards

>> No.43765001

>>43764934
Do you know what they look like IRL or are you people just making shit up? How do you know Selen is fat? Or Millie is cute?

>> No.43765090

>>43764683
Sure dude
You aren't clever

>> No.43765745

>>43763083
Help the huge loser like me, get on the bed and fuck me till my balls are dry

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>>43719398
As someone who loves Selen, you can't tell me those wheezes don't sound a little sussy

>> No.43765949

>>43713247
She's fit as fuck so even if she's got leprosy, it would still undoubtedly be fearboner material

>> No.43766118

>>43713058
unfortunate that this girl hasn't been died in a car crash yet

>> No.43766157

>>43723204
Gura can be a spergy weirdo all she wants, her natural charisma is so high that it doesn't even matter.
She could shoot somebody in Times Square and they wouldn't even ask why

>> No.43767091

>>43713324
She doesn't say that at all, retard. She says good looking people are more social because their attractiveness gives them more opportunities to BE social, and this leads to them being better at talking to a chat and being a successfully entertaining person. They can still have a bad personality and be entertaining. (see nyanners, veibae, nina, rushia)
Being ugly means more social isolation and that means less socialization, and that means being less good at chatting from lack of practice.

>> No.43767246

>>43766118
veichama...

>> No.43767644

>>43767091
>ESL clipper still defending his clip that has gotten his slut a bunch of bad publicity

>> No.43767729

>>43767644
>ESL clipper
not like he had to try lmao
bitch is also esl af

>> No.43767816

>>43765878
You can be skinny and out of shape, you know

Or smoke

>> No.43767880

>>43713058
sad that people actually care about anything that comes out of this disgusting whores mouth

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