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Im fluent in Japanese but impressed by her Japanese. Its clearly better than Moris. She might actually try hard to learn it. And unlike Mori, she actually can talk with a Holo JP member in Japanese for minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWy26aO-5sM

>> No.4394792

>>4394708
It's not a secret that Mori's japanese fucking sucks. Literally everyone knows that

>> No.4394828

>>4394708
Ina actually speaks it fairly well, she hides it because she doesn't want to get Kiara's job of having to be everyone's translator like what happened to a certain painter during an amogus collab.

>> No.4394856

>>4394828
I mean Kiara is also on another level entirely.

>> No.4394913

>>4394708
Mori's Japanese is intentionally bad, as far as I remember. She puts on a thick American accent for comedic effect.

>> No.4394927

>>4394708
Speaking from experience, knowing one asian language makes it significantly easier to learn another one.

>> No.4394971

>>4394913
>intentionally bad
I'm not sure I buy that.

>> No.4395014

>>4394828
Ina's Japanese isn't anywhere near good enough to do realtime translation. She said in the Polka/Nene collab she basically understood what they were saying but it took all her focus so she basically couldn't keep up and speak back to them much at the same time.

>> No.4397449

>>4394913
>She puts on a thick American accent for comedic effect.
Very funny mori

>> No.4397616

>>4394708
She's good but you can tell by how often she pauses when speaking that she has to put a lot of effort in to it. She's good with 1 on 1 collabs but she struggled to keep up with nene and polka at the same time.

Way better than Mori though.

>> No.4404023

>>4394708
She should give Mori some tips.

>> No.4405684

>>4394913
>merely pretending

>> No.4406074

>>4397616
She can kill it multiple person collabs but she can’t do it while gaming. See Pochi-Iofi-Ina draw collab.

>> No.4406167

>>4394708
collab with Ayame when?

>> No.4406180

shame that shes boring to listen to. All she does is react to chat with "um... hmm.. thats nice... oh... umm" and never says anything. Often you cant tell what shes even reacting to.
Also, wow what a shitty mic she has. Its like an iphone on speaker

>> No.4406227

Post the Ayame Ina pic. You know the one

>> No.4406253

>>4394913
Calli...stop coming here, seriously

>> No.4406294

>>4394913
Nice try Mori. Fucking improve your Nihongo.

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4406337

>>4406227

>> No.4406474

>>4406337
Based Oni

>> No.4406562

>>4406337
Ayame is too nice for this...

>> No.4407385

>>4406337
this is fake, ayame would never use 俺 as a pronoun.

>> No.4407439

>>4394708
She's definitely the highest IQ and most hardworking EN.

>> No.4407524

jesas dyrb

>> No.4407552

>>4394708
Well Ina said on stream that she learned Nihongo for learning and business purposes, not because she is a weeaboo like Mori.

>> No.4407653

>>4407552
Come on Ina is a huge weeb.

>> No.4408829

>>4394913
Mori is N4 on a good day, other than that N5

>> No.4408868

>>4408829
Too bad those streams they did to get their scores were nuked.

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4409047

>>4394708
based tako

>> No.4414657

>>4395014
desu same with her english collabs

>> No.4414713

>>4406167
when ayame has enough time from playing league offstream and fucking her boyfriend. Oh yeah, and her obligatory, once a week stream

>> No.4414734

>>4406337
do you faggots still believe this is real. the japanese is hilariously shit. her pronoun is wrong in the first place along with a bunch of garbage japanese.

>> No.4414762

>>4394708
getting reliable oneesan vibes whenever she speaks nip

>> No.4414887
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4414887

>>4394708
Japanese is VERY similar to Korean in the asian context. Their grammar is almost identical and closer than japanese-chinese even. They use the same particle-system japanese uses. Not surprised.

>> No.4415489

>>4414734
anon i think it's a shitpost

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4416211

>nihonggo jouzu'd
kek

>> No.4417911

>>4408829
God I hate mori's oisho

>> No.4417940

>>4414734
found the clipfag

>> No.4417950

>>4394828
Anyone that thinks Ina has Kiara's level of Japanese and can even come close to Kiara's translation skills is either some schizo blinded by hatred and/or doesn't actually know Japanese.

>> No.4418029

>>4394708
>what kind of underwear do you like
>Black with brown stripes
Disgusting, Ina!

>> No.4418096

Ina felt so nervous and shy... cute! I'm very proud of her. I hope Gura or Ame will try interacting with og holos more too.

>> No.4418181

>>4416211
explain this meme

>> No.4418192

>>4394913
At least celebrate you birthday without egosearching, you bitch.

>> No.4418605

>>4394913
Not sure if deadbeats cope or falseflag

>> No.4418614

>>4394913
what level of cope is this?

>> No.4418631

>>4408868
What?

>> No.4418668

>>4418181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmfipv-H4_o

>> No.4418802

>>4407552
Ina is a massive weeb, so I'm sure that had something to do with it or at least was part of the immersion process

>> No.4418932

>>4394828
Ina’s Japanese is good, but she still gets Nihongo jouzu’d. Kiara’s past the point of being asked how long she’s lived in Japan; People speaking to her for the first time assume she’s a hafu.

>> No.4418944

>>4394708
“An Asian woman knows Japanese better than a western women”
Wow this Is big news who would have thought.

>> No.4421582

Being a native Korean speaker is a massive buff towards learning Japanese

>> No.4421884

>>4397616
>how often she pauses when speaking
Have you never seen any stream where she speaks English?

>> No.4421952

>>4421582
>>4418944
To be fair, Korean sounds and it's written nothing like Japanese.

>> No.4422164

isn't ina korean? it's easy to learn japanese if you virtually already speak it

>> No.4422201

>>4418605
lmao

>> No.4422204

>>4417911
It's only good when she oishos into the cowgirl position.

>> No.4422245

>>4418944
she's korean it's got nothing to do with japanese.
it's like saying mori should know Swedish because she's white.

>> No.4422333

>>4407552
>>4406294
>>4397449
>>4418614
>>4418631


Found the clipfags

>> No.4422431

>>4421952
>>4422245
don't talk about things you don't understand. Korean grammar and phonetics make it very easy to pick up Japanese

>> No.4422530

>>4422245
No she should know swedish cause she loves the bbc

>> No.4422565

>>4422245
if mori put as much half-assed effort into learning swedish as she's put into japanese she'd be native level by now

>> No.4422629

>>4394708
The problem is that Ina is too shy, so she never gets to practice her conversational Japanese.

>> No.4422664

>>4422629
inb4 matt vs japan video

>> No.4422891

>>4418181
Its not even a meme. Japanese people tend to react very similar to different levels of Japanese. If you are 自己紹介 level they will tell you "You japanese is good!". The better you get the less friendly they actually get. From that its "How long have you been studying japanese?" > "How long have you been in Japan?". There is a level above that, but I have only seen it in my old Japanese professor. He speaks better moon that 97% of Japanese it feels and people start to openly distrust him at some point wondering if he is part of a setup.

>> No.4422909

>>4422164
Yeah, but she's like second generation so probably only knows enough to awkwardly speak to Korean relatives when they come over to visit or over the phone

>> No.4423148

>>4422909
really? she sounds like she has a slight foreign accent or something

>> No.4423382

>>4423148
My personal rrat is that Ina was born in Korea and lived there until her early tweens, probably 10 or 11 when her family moved to Canada. So while she's fairly native in English she's still maintained the accent slightly and also "thinks" in Korean.

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4423444

>>4407552
She's a turbo weeb, business purposes is just the extra incentive she needed to actually learn Japanese.

>> No.4423460

>>4407552
>>4423444
what possible business purpose is there for learning japanese

>> No.4423523

>>4423382
she talked about that stuff already on her streams before holo, she was born in Canada

>> No.4423527

>>4423460
ties in with her vocation pretty well; reasonably important for freelance artistry in japanese gachashit? also it would have weighed heavily in her favour during her hololive audition so there's that

but yeah apart from that nips are a very small people actively breeding themselves out and'll be gone before the turn of the century so fuck'em

>> No.4423567

>>4423523
Maybe just an insular community then? I know pakis from Glasgow, born in the UK, that have thick accents because they've been in insular communities for most of their lives.

>> No.4423767

>>4414887
I remember someone saying that Korean is copypaste of japanese, but they skipped all the retarded parts like 3 different ways of writing etc.

>> No.4423799

>>4423767
it's harder to learn korean to an advanced level because kanji makes it easier to learn vocabulary borrowed from chinese

>> No.4424040

When will we get more Europeans chuubas I'm tired of shitty sino-tibetan languages. PIE is superior.

>> No.4424376

>>4424040
>failed linguistics self study

>> No.4424381

>>4418096
>Gura or Ame
Their Japanese is probably worse than Calli anon

>> No.4424447

>>4423382
Once in a while her accent slips, she probably also docent really talk much irl.

>> No.4426283

>>4423382
>"thinks" in Korean.
That's not how that works. You generally think in the language you use most of the time, or in the last one you used. For example right now I'm thinking in English, even though it is my second language and literally nobody in my backwater town can speak it fluently.

>> No.4426449

>>4424381
>probably
you mean for sure.

>> No.4432243

>>4394708
Ameco stream was kinda cringe
Bitches don't understand each other
Whore can't learn a damn language

>> No.4435901

>>4423523
Not with that accent she wasn't. Either that or she wasn't exposed much to English until she was older.

>> No.4436018

>>4394913
>I was merely pretending to naruhodo ne

Do you really think that Mori could pull an Andy Kaufman like joke of that level?

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4436068

>>4424040
NERRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>> No.4436934

>>4406180
Kiara please, she already beat you to 1 mil, it's time to move on.

>> No.4445914

>>4423523
Do you have a link fan? I wanna know more about my cute tako.

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>>4417950
The takodachis haven't took their meds

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4447360

>>4423767
>I remember someone saying that Korean is copypaste of japanese, but they skipped all the retarded parts like 3 different ways of writing etc.
It's more like this: both Japan and Korea (or Yamato and Goryeo) had their own flavors of retarded adaptations of Chinese for a long time. Eventually Korea was like "What if we had a writing system that matched our spoken language, and was super easy for the common man to learn, because literacy is cool?"

On the other hand, Japan was like "Naw it's cool just fuck our shit up", but then some aristocratic women kept writing cursive and eventually it became accepted as its own thing, separate from the wannabe-Chinese. Someone asked "Wait doesn't that make things more complicated?" and the other Heian aristocrats responded "Where do you think we are?"

I'm misrepresenting it slightly, because the Japanese "Wait doesn't that..." adaptation of kana happened over a few centuries, prior to 1100 (about?), and the Korean "What if we fixed it?" happened in the 1400's. So Korea put up with their retarded adaption of Chinese for longer before fixing it, whereas Japan went about making things more complicated as soon as they could. Sasuga Nihon.

Korean reading and writing is way easier to pick up initially, but the grammar is still as bullshit as Japanese, but that does me if you know Japanese already it is a leg up (and vice versa). Then as >>4423799 said, there is still a residual vocabulary root in Chinese that helps to be aware of if you want to get advanced.

>>4426283
As a Burger who has picked up two other languages to functional levels, I am always ashamed at how my fellow Americans perceive what it is like to know another language.

>> No.4447406

>>4447360
Fuck. Typo. Replace "me" with "mean":
>but that does me if you know Japanese already it is a leg up
"but that does mean if you know Japanese already it is a leg up"

>> No.4448273

>>4394913
Her accent is so perfectly what you'd expect of a big titty American in anime that I also thought this at one point. However, it's real.

>> No.4448291

>>4447360
i appreciate this post. i always wondered if people were being honest when they said japanese was just geishas fucking up chinese but could never be bothered to dig into it

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