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46491030 No.46491030 [Reply] [Original]

"Yagoo San, where is my music contract. You said I was a better singer than Kawaiiope."

>> No.46492854

better singer doesnt mean shit if you dont produce

>> No.46493032
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46493032

>>46491030
Wonder how much they regret signing Mori.

>> No.46493105

>>46491030
"You refuse to Collab with my passion projects so you get nothing.

>> No.46495075

>>46492854
Yup, mori has the grindset and actually outputs songs

>> No.46495183

>>46492854
Irys produces constantly she just has little passion for it and doesn't promote it.

As for >>46493032
Honestly unsure. We can't take youtube as the be all and end all of everything.
But we can say this for certain: She's doing well enough to continue justifying the expense and effort while also paying for a support team.
Doing well enough that Universal saw profit to be made in signing her.

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>>46491030
Yagoo lies. More at 11.

>> No.46495473

>>46492854
IRyS wont hear your criticism unless you are one of her paypigs. She will just ban you

>> No.46495737

>>46491030
Is IRyS even in control of what type of music she can produce?

>> No.46496014

>>46495737
She probably has control over the lyrics and basic melody and how to perform the songs but that's probably it.

>> No.46496383

>>46496014
Seems not. She's complained a bit about them pushing outside her comfortable range in the past.

>> No.46496731

>>46493032
Just YT views isn't enough when it comes to music. Have to look at Apple store and Spotify as well.

>> No.46497411
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>>46496731
>look at how my fanbase is full of idiots who buy free music

>> No.46499983

>>46497411
Are you retarded?

>> No.46501750

>>46492854
irys does produce alot anon (including our babies) but she mainly just produces, maybe shilling them once in a while but thats about it
its kind of a work hard vs work smart thing

>> No.46501952

When did "producer" replace "composer"? Is it in correlation to rap becoming the dominant form of music in the US and so everyone has to use this word now?

>> No.46502715

It doesnt matter to OP, since he just want to shitpost, but for anyone whos actually curious, Irys had 0 input in any of the albums and original songs she sang so far. Hence why she doesnt shill them, because she has little attachment to em(she even forget the name of some songs).
Thats to say, the covers that she did herself (paying for MVs, mixing and everything, like the other holomembers do) did quite well, since are songs that she herself chose.
Apparently, she either got a new manager or had a discussion with the staff, because she stopped pumping out low effort songs like before (the intensive recording sessions were the reason she got so many throat horts in the past).

All in all, I like it better now. She does more Karaokes now, because less recording, and its overall happier.

t. Day 1 Irystocrat

>> No.46502961

>>46496383
Since her fans here hate her music and she thinks her music already has too much range compared to what she's comfortable with, can you people finally accept you only like her twitch thot personality?

>> No.46503418

>>46491030
proof and/or tits or kys

>> No.46503419

>>46502961
>can you people finally accept you only like her twitch thot personality?
Anon, shes one of the ENs the get the highest CCV when doing Karaokes.
That means theres tourists that only come to watch her sing.

>> No.46503847

>>46503419
She is a really good singer. If only she'd get good writers though.
Unironically I think if Calli wrote a song for Irys it would mog most of her existing songs.

>> No.46503968

>>46502715
> low effort songs
I would not consider her songs as low effort. I mean irys’ songs are definitely much more difficult than other members’.These songs are personally designed for her.

>> No.46504456

>>46495183
>Irys produces constantly she just has little passion for it and doesn't promote it.
Does she produce? I thought Hololive paid others to make songs for her to sing and she has little input.

>> No.46506130

>>46491030
Lol lmao

>> No.46506885

>>46503968
My bad, I meant to say songs with low effort MVs.

>> No.46507971

>>46502715
IRyS bothers me just because she's a good singer and the lazy cunts don't invest in her. I don't get why Cover would recruit a singer who is passionate about singing and then shit the bed so hard with her producers, it sounds like some of her songs were written by people who don't even speak English. Personally her voice is more suited for stuff like this;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irXJVUKAyN0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPk9c0UK0Fg

>> No.46509363

>>46491030
lmao

>> No.46513021

>>46491030
whelp

>> No.46513818

i dont really think she's that good. she sings the same things everytime. her songs dont have much variety, as much as her voice is. i like her streams tho, she's funny. i already got tired of her voice past her first EP. I actually believed she's gonna be good from how good Caesura of Despair EP is. but everything that follows are average shit that sounds the same.

>> No.46515563

>>46507971
Because thats exactly the issue with her.
They hired her as a EN vSinger when Cover has shit experience finding someone who can write lyrics that doesn't sound like it came from a ESL retard.
Theres a reason why...
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_0Zc26jkDw
...is her highest viewed song on her channel. Because its a MV that she funded and was extremely passionate about.

>> No.46516978

>>46515563
isn't this her stream waiting video for like forever?
i heard those count as views. but I'm, not sure
pretty sure being in the intro of her every waiting room helps gather attention tho. even if it doesnt count as views

>> No.46517876

>>46516978
Only time I remember her using it for that was her return stream when she took her almost month break back in November just before 2.0 reveal. Could be mistaken though.
Even so, I doubt those count as views for an entirely different video.

>> No.46517981

Pumping covers you like is all well and good, but until she becomes a driving force behind her originals (like her other coworkers who are known singers) they're going to be bad. If she just shows up on recording day and maybe has some input (think she said she gave some on quarter bravery?) they're only ever going to be as good as the producers and not really a reflection of her.

Her not shilling stuff she doesn't have personal investment in just means she isn't a professional. Not a big deal for a vtuber but it's still kinda pathetic.

>> No.46518061

>>46517981
Does Irys have any collab originals with other holos, or only covers?

>> No.46518209

i like IRyS. she's fun, and entertaining.
but she makes terrible business decisions.
>she dont shill her songs enough.
>she sings the same almost every song, it gets boring.
>nobody remembers her unique songs like ENJOY! JOY! JOYFUL!!, even her
>she dont leverage her language and location advantage.
>(she would pass a million now if she leeches with JP)
>she rather play games for 7 hours than mingle with other members that would boost her exposure.
>(and kills her throat and the process, then cries about it).
>she didnt even try to do much on-stream while most of the EN & ID girls are in JP.
cool that she prefers to have fun. in her own way, but she's not growing with this mindset. she's lucky there's not much EN can offer right now. she should be worried when EN3 or more arrives. she could get forgotten by everyone in a blink of an eye

>> No.46518226

>>46518061
This sprang to my mind. Not sure if theres more
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAO-w9stKAU

>> No.46518305

>>46518061
only one, i believe, with Star Flower (the Holo Alt PV 2 song) everything else is coverf

>> No.46518465

>sing a song in high pitch
>unable to sing for a week
not sure she's the best candidate for a contract

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>>46499983

>> No.46518749

>>46491030
Umg wants flashy slaves not good singers

>> No.46518849

>>46518209
She has no determination/professionalism, which is fine as a person or in a streamer, but it's hard to cheer for an idol that puts out stronger "I don't care about being an idol" vibes than her coworkers that have openly disparaged the culture.

She used to talk about how karaoke was her "favorite time of the week" and, while recently this has improved, she spent a long time looping the same handful of songs.

I did enjoy her first year but she's been getting worse, IMO. Quickly becoming someone I don't want to see in collabs.

>> No.46519303

>>46518849
right. kinda sad people starting to not want to see her in collabs, but i do understand.
i think they shouldn't have pushed her as a vSinger. i still like her, but i dont look at her as performer anymore,.just a funny game streamer. that can sing if they ask her to.

>> No.46519744

>>46518226
>>46518305
Right, that's the only one I can think of, it feels like one of those top-down songs where none of the talents had much input though. I wonder if Irys might have more say if she did a more personal duet song with one of the more hands-on singer holos.
I don't think Irys lacks either motivation or talent, what she says in her streams make it sound more like her contract with Cover is more restrictive than she expected.
I like the duet version from the concert too, maybe even more, but that might be bias because those two are my oshis. https://youtu.be/iSllEELPAjA

>> No.46520062

>>46493032
This wasn't covers fault, she was getting numbers she just crippled herself and never came back

>> No.46520118

>>46518849
>she spent a long time looping the same handful of songs.

Ok now. She has a whole bit in a her karaoke streams where she sings "songs that I learned yesterday/in X hours".
Also, you cant really say that when Ame and Mumei are the ones actually singing the same songs over and over (I still love em and will watch whenever I can tho).

>> No.46520569

>>46519744
then that's a terrible contract...
because it doesnt take advantage of the hololive brand at all...
i dont think she lacks talent, motivation is debatable, but she sure lacks initiative. must be pretty hard for a shut-in, mixed-blood in japan tho. cant blame her as much.
she dont even have an OG song with the EN members.

>> No.46524910

>>46497411
So you're a graynamefag?

>> No.46529645

>>46520569
It always felt to me that there was Irys the Vtuber and Irys the Vsinger and there was next to no overlap between the two. I unironically think the Vsinger label has been a net negative for her popularity...

>> No.46529741

>>46529645
it does seem in general that cover is ditching the vsinger concept.
Irys has been rolled into Council.
The JP one has sort of rebranded too and is getting more involved with the rest of hololive

>> No.46530009

>>46518849
Wow imagine this but that fits your oshi like a glove aloucuck. Dumb fuck Ennaschizo can't even falseflag right.

>> No.46534962

>>46493032
>biggest EN Persona fan, wouldnt shut up about it
>gets the least views
I guess thats what you get for rebelling and trying so hard to piss off unicorns.

>> No.46535457

>>46529741
The fact that we haven't gotten an original song from her in like...5 months, tells me they have essentially dropped the vSinger title from her. Which I actually feel like is best for her.
Shes essentially filled the hole that Sana left behind with Council and shes gotten a break from her constant vocal issues. This would also let her just do originals and covers she funds herself that she would be passionate about.
Win/Win in my opinion.

>> No.46535553

>>46491030
The only thing i dont get is why she got her 3d so late. 3d concerts are huge bang for buck especially for, you know, singers

>> No.46535824

>>46491030
well OP
hope your are happy now
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.46535905

>>46520062
>she just crippled herself
Exactly correct. It's literally all on her.

>> No.46535950

>>46529741
It's probably less about making music and more about saving a buck on keeping a constant retainer on recording booths and shit.

>> No.46536369

>>46535553
it's mainly on the redesign being prioritized first because she'd still stick out like a sore thumb with with 1.0 and rigging the 3D for that would be hell to make, especially the hair

>> No.46536997

>>46536369
Thats just double retarded tho

>> No.46538168

>>46496014
Dude she doesn't even have control of when her songs will drop much less if they'll have MVs. She had at least 3 songs that were released during her breaks last year and not a single MV was released with the song in question. She's pretty much Project:Hope's slave and everyone knows her karaoke streams are insanely better than 95%+ or her originals.

>> No.46538903

>>46538168
Explain Project: Hope to me. How does that shit even work?

>> No.46539212

cover and vsinger projects simply don't work together at all
azki and suisei became much more successful after they got moved into hololive

>> No.46539314

>>46538903
It's mostly speculation at this point but it's hard to ignore how horribly managed IRyS music release schedule is and there's no way that's her doing. It makes no sense to keep releasing new songs during her breaks and wait 2+ months to release a low effort MV for them, but the motherfuckers kept doing it. And I believe the shitty vtweeter was one of the producers for her stuff early on so make of it what you will.

>> No.46539821

>>46493032
>thread about music contract
>posts shit about stream ccv that has nothing to do with music
>???
retard

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>>46491030
No, I don't think I wirr give it to you IRyS-san as a mattel of fact I wirr now pair you up with a homo during our next event!

>> No.46542362

>>46493032
less than Holostars

>> No.46542417

>>46493032
chimkin hands typed this

>> No.46542557

>>46538903
Project hope is a music producer inside cover. They have their own team of useless japs and they signed irys to sing their songs.
Omegatron wrote ceasure of despair, they hired someone for the mv and mixing and sent the lyrics for her to sing.

>> No.46542669

>EN singer
>Sings mainly in jap
Why?

>> No.46542707

>>46493032
Yet mori gets more sc and views than her? What's your point Kek

>> No.46542786

>>46491030
I mean she can't even get a decent views in her songs so why would they?

>> No.46543784

>>46518849
I like her game selection, but she seems uninterested in her career. She's housewife material.

>> No.46544204

>>46491030
you mean with a record label? Why would she want to give 90% of her revenue to some retarded producers that will only manage to tank her views like they did with mori?

>> No.46544240

>hire vsinger
>can't sing
yagoo crazy for this one

>> No.46544322

>>46518625
sorry faggot, normies still outnumber you, why do you think Apple Music and Spotify still exist?

>> No.46544344

>>46543784
Hard to be interested when none of her songs are truly hers and are treated like an afterthought by her managers.

>> No.46544375

>>46501952
>Is it in correlation to rap becoming the dominant form of music in the US and so everyone has to use this word now?
that and ESL Japanese terminology

>> No.46544444

>>46518849
>Quickly becoming someone I don't want to see in collabs.
what the fuck

>> No.46544799

>>46501952
Because a composer means the guy who writes the tunes. There’s also a lyricist and a sound engineer to work with in modern songs. Add the musicians and vocalist to worry about. Managing all that shit takes a producer. Its no longer the 1800s when a composer can be the conductor and everyone just practices instead of adding autotune and other sound mixing tricks

>> No.46544834

>>46544799
>Its no longer the 1800s when a composer can be the conductor and everyone just practices instead of adding autotune and other sound mixing tricks
Are you serious? People can create entire songs by themselves from top to bottom these days, and they usually do with electronic or electronic-adjecent music, the only extra person they need is a vocalist

>> No.46545311

>>46518849
Used to watch her casually but her keyboard/shipping autism honestly made me stop caring about her.
She's been leaning hard into the yabIRyS thing for quite some time now and while it was funny at first, kinda gets repetitive after a while.

>> No.46545617

>>46493032
Youre the same schizo making these >>46544340 shitty images huh

You know, I used to honestly favor unity among brands. But maybe theyre right what they said about you nijisanji fuckers. Shitposting, anti-ing, discord raids, giftcards. It's all people like you, isn't it? Living trash.

>> No.46547259

>>46491030
make better songs

>> No.46550219

not as good as Cali sorry

>> No.46550262

>>46491030
make more money

>> No.46550527

It's a bit sad to see. Her singing is excellent, but her production choices are generally meh and she doesn't shill it as much. Just looking at the size of her and cally's "the ones I really really fucking like" playlists makes me sad.

C'mon irys, swap producers a couple times to see if you hit something better, and then work those guys until their brains seep out of their ears. Gimme the goods.

>> No.46551946

>>46550527
She literally can't change shit. She's stuck with Project:Hope until Cover drops that shit and let her be a normal vtuber.

>> No.46557535

>>46491030
I prefer to watch IRyS playing games and being retarded

>> No.46558503

>>46495183
>>46492854
Hasn't IRyS herself kinda complained about the genre her songs are always forced to be inm

>> No.46558537

>>46491030
She's not really a good singer but Mori is worse

>> No.46559423

>>46544322
You're really justifying stupid spending and siding with
>normies
Sad and pathetic

>> No.46560149

i already lost hope on her singing a long time ago
she's just a funny game streamer with occassional innuendos to me

>> No.46560367

>>46559423
>Cries when music gets worse
>Has never financially supported music that he likes
Okay...

>> No.46560651

>>46497411
Not even that, it is one thing to buy music that you like, and another to give your money to platforms with music that you despise

>> No.46560740

>>46491030
I wonder if she signed a similar shitty contract like AZKi

>> No.46560924

Mori doing more irl streams now. I don't consider her a very good vtuber. I can't stand the girls who straight up doxx themselves cuz they are narcissists and need attention to their irl . It's the instagram mindset. fuckin loser e-thots. I dunno why those kind of streamers are populare. stupid horny boys can't use their brains. bunch of fucking retards. The fact Shylily and other girls like her even have huge followings just shows how retarded the average vtuber viewer is now.

>> No.46561054

>>46491030
Her rap is cringe but I actually like end of a life. It sucks that IRyS has to sing all the chuuni shit but she's got the voice for it.

>> No.46564370

>>46520118
I think Ame gets away with it because she's not a singer so karaoke is what it's meant to be, fun and laughs. Mumei sings like 100 songs in a guerilla so that's why people never get tired of that. It's too bad IRyS got the singer label instead of a streamer that can sing on the side.

>> No.46564642

>>46559423
As much as you hate normies, they're the ones that run the world and business. Stay mad in your basement.

>> No.46565068

She's not. Irys sounds like she's singing with a clogged up nose. It's really irritating. You can hear her strain when she sings too, like she's trying way too hard.

>> No.46570059

>>46534962
If she's that much of a fan has she played P1 and P2? No? Fake fan then, so no shit she gets low tier views.

>> No.46571790

>>46570059
what about her isn't fake...

>> No.46572196

>>46560924
I simply don't support people that double dip. I want to back hololive, not people that treat this job as a secondary inconvenience.

>> No.46572457

>>46544322
No one considers streaming music buying it really. You need to stream a song like 10000 times or something ludicrous for the industry to count it as a sale.

>> No.46572462

>>46572196
does replying to yourself when no one responds to your low IQ bait make you feel better?

>> No.46572498

>>46572462
>Everyone that replies is samefagging

>> No.46572531

>>46572196
Including some holoJP?

>> No.46572594

>>46542707
Enjoy seeing less than 5% of that Mori

>> No.46572781

>>46572498
72 IPs and 104 replies, that means 32 replies are the same retard reviving his thread pretending to be "an old irystocrat that dropped her by stupid reasons while pretending to be multiple people" for 1000000000th time and that now is shitting on Mori to revive this shit again and again. And I'm probably talking to him right now, kys retard stop being obsessed, you have been seething for almost a year

>> No.46573635

>>46572781
These >>46572196 >>46572498 are my posts. Also kill yourself.

>> No.46573692

>>46572531
Yes. There are plenty of people that don't do that I can support in HoloJP.

>> No.46574368

>>46572196
essentially this, in fact by doing this she is effectively using Ecelebs like the trash taste boys and the Vshojosphere to funnel views and therefore money (that could be spent on the equip or 3D outfit of anyones oshi) from hololive to her own pocket
Ironically she is proving everyone from /jp/ and early /vt/ right, and nubeats can't do anything but go slayyy qveen
EN ayame

>> No.46574377

>>46495737
We don't know exactly. We just know the point of the "vsinger" hire was that the company pays to make her originals. They wanted to make an EN Azki but kinda lost the script and quietly slid her into council, idk they've really mismanaged her from day 1, she should have had a 3D model from debut if they wanted to promote her as a solo performer. It borderline seems like they have some kind of grudge against her

>> No.46575289

>>46502715
>t. Day 1 Irystocrat
>she doesnt shill them because she has little attachment to em
???
It's not that simple you small brained coomer.
She's been contracted as the performer of Project HOPE, not as a hololiveEN member.
They had a plan for her music and everything was thrown to shit when the holoEN talents stood against holoEN management around the end of November 2021 (after the short-lived FF14 streams). The girls included IRyS's issues with her model and lack of power within her project.
The original OmegaAlpha, credited producer of Caesura's MVs, disappeared completely from talent discourse, stream chats, twitter and even all the following Project HOPE MVs, none of which came even close to be as quality as Caesura.
If you didn't realized yet, ProjectHOPE is being salvaged and contractual (and lack of ambition) issues are blocking her from even thinking about self-produced original songs.

>> No.46575833

>>46575289
You have a really active imagination.

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