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47207561 No.47207561 [Reply] [Original]

Umm, Idolbros… what are Rin and Juna doing in Regis Altare’s chat?

>> No.47207639

>watching the biggest faggot

>> No.47207739

The "Idol" in the title was merely a facade

>> No.47207762

the question here is what are you doing there?

>> No.47207763

>>47207561
what are you doing on his stream

>> No.47207869

>>47207561
They are altare's personal onahole

>> No.47207971

>>47207561
Rin literally stream snipped the pilot homo in Splatoon and responds to the rest on twitter all the time. Juna already collabed with some literal who dude in Valorant. Who gives a fuck

>> No.47208049

rin is a boy

>> No.47208087

How new?

>> No.47208264

>>47207561
lmao newfag, both of them are already used goods, this is a well known fact, one of them tweets at tempus constantly and the other collabed with some random 2view faggot last month

>> No.47208263

90% of idolfags on this board are disgruntled chumbud diaspora, they never cared about those two to begin with

>> No.47208442

>>47207561
It's unironically fine when Rin does it

>> No.47208471

>>47207561
Rin pulled a Bae and was simping for them at debut.

>> No.47208561

>>47207561
I knew Rin was a tempiss fan since day 1 and proceeded to not follow her

>> No.47208579

>>47207561
Rin is a vestie. It's cute.

>> No.47208956

>>47207763
It's a sister who is seething about her mogging the homos even though Rin has always been open about liking the homoflops

>> No.47209491
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>>47207561
Seethe

>> No.47209910

>>47207561
We know since debut that rin isn't unicorn friendly and juna is korean so idk what you expected.

>> No.47210021

They are probably interacting with him to get a collab with Selen. That would be huge for them

>> No.47210036

I might actually anti them both

>> No.47210089

>>47207561
supporting the cause

>> No.47210176

(((Idol)))corp

>> No.47210409

>>47207561
Shame on you for watching males.

>> No.47210429

>>47207561
supporting the cause

>> No.47210485

>>47207763
this point needs to be addressed

>> No.47210486

>>47208263
>these replies
Sounds about right

>> No.47210634

>>47207561
Because they are women, just like we want to watch some girl with an anime avatar, women want to watch a man with an anime avatar
also because they are WOMEN, they tend to forget what kind of fanbase they attracted joining a corpo literally called IDOL

>> No.47210713

>>47207561
they are fellow troon supporters just like altare.

>> No.47210768

>>47209910
>korean
>a selen tatsuki fan
>random valorant 1on1 collab with a indie male
>last stream was drawing MLP

Any unicorn left are just stupid, too bad for them since Juna legs are nice

>> No.47210915

Idol wants to make it big BIG anyway they can.
Be it by
>Buying ads on Youtube
>Scamming funding from the Israeli government
>Astroturfing on social media sites, especially here on /vt/
>Begging for collabs with Holos and Homos
>Begging for donations once a month with something-athons
>Trying to get already established (20k+ subs, their words) indies to let them scrape money from them

They will stop at nothing and use every tactic to grab every bit of turf and money they can.

>> No.47210979

>>47207561
>continue to leech off of hololive
KEK

>> No.47211025

>>47207763
/vt/ is mostly normalfags tourists who go from general to general to see if they can get something to post in catalog
It’s their entertainment I guess

>> No.47211320

Leave Rin, Juna and the holostars alone or /jidf/ becomes my greatest ally

>> No.47211639

This thread reeks of brown

>> No.47211744

>>47208956
more likely it is a sister seething about a female v-tuber being in his chat. /cbdct/ is a hot bed for the biggest fucking schizo unicorns on this board.

>> No.47211838

>>47210915
The worst part is nobody cares about this stuff once they make it. They could kill people for views but they have one million subs so they’re cool and have clout

>> No.47211969

>>47207561
Rin likes supporting less popular vtubers.

>> No.47211983

>>47207561
Imagine still thinking Idolcorp is an idol company by now.

>> No.47212057
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>>47211969
Based John Vtuber

>> No.47212406

>>47211744
True, forgot about those crazy femcels.

>> No.47212797

>>47210634
You already know real idols regularly and openly collaborate with men in a professional capacity and you only make up these ridiculous standards because you enjoy being angry.

>> No.47212811

>>47210915
they already made it big, they are the leading small corpo and they made (you) seeth

>> No.47212974

>>47207561
>>47212797
ok this is not professional at all, what were they thinking?

>> No.47213013

>>47207561
>Having to leech off STARS
Oh that's funny.

>> No.47213161

>>47213013
Quite the opposite, Rin is charitably helping a smaller streamer

>> No.47213237

>>47212811
All signs point to the rug being pulled out from under them eventually. I foresee their first round of contract renegotiations for EN going badly.

>> No.47213352

>>47207561
...aren't the only people that watch these shitters holo refugees that tried to get away from Tempus? kek

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>>47207561
Almost 50 posts in already and you still haven't adressed >>47207763's question yet, OP. Might the legends be true? Is OP actually a faggot?

>> No.47213446

>>47213352
but enough about Production Kawaii

>> No.47213509

>>47213352
This only applies to boo bros

>> No.47213554

>>47213161
Yeah a jew is leeching off a goyish company tell me something I don't know. I wonder how it feels to be a slave to a jew? I wouldn't know because I avoid them at all costs. I wonder how loud their overlord yells at them to keep leeching off Hololive and STARS? You do know this is a rug pull by this jew ceo right? I envy the ignorance people have about them, they don't know what stabs them in the back until it's too late. Oh, and your shilling is very obvious Aviel it's not clever, it's not witty and it isn't genius either.

>> No.47213558

>>47207561
They realize that's their way of getting a collab. They'll also do this with Ollie soon

>> No.47213639
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>>47213352
That's exactly why it's so funny. The boys are totally owning the incels across all the corpos.

>> No.47213662

>>47213554
Least obsessed anon

>> No.47213757

>>47213662
Keep sucking that yiddish dick anon, you'll contract a parasite at some point and I won't help you.

>> No.47213781

>>47213432
OP copied it from /MANS/ and posted it on the catalog.

>> No.47213830

>>47212797
You mean in the industry where idols are routinely fired for getting caught having offscreen relations with men that aren't approved by the company? The industry where idols have gotten stalked and assaulted for showing the appearance of impropriety and impurity? Nigga the japs stab bitches over that
shit.

>> No.47213851

>>47212797
How is what they did professional? Are they in a collab? Are they at an event? No.

>> No.47213968

>>47213781
>he is a faggot

>> No.47214028

>>47207561
Rins's fav vtuber is Mori. The red flags were there from the start.

>> No.47214074

>>47213237
you faggots been saying its a rug pull scam for over a year, the talents all seem happy, the management is actually good and transparent, the corpo does what corpos should do, and the only thing that make people seeth and call it a scam is them being jews

>> No.47214125

>>47207561
So you’re telling me if I get into Holostars EN I can fuck Rin? Might have to apply.

>> No.47214130

>>47214074
>only thing that make people seeth and call it a scam is them being jews
Pattern recognition be like that.

>> No.47214188

>>47214130
more like too much /pol/ be like that

>> No.47214194
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47214194

If you're going to homo it up, at least pick better ones. There are 7 other options.

>> No.47214261

>>47212797
real idols don't dance and sing on stage alongside men, they do variety shows where creepy old men act as audience self-insert and prank idols for cheap laughs.
Please know the difference

>> No.47214297

>>47213352
Wait until you poll Pipcucks.

>> No.47214479

>>47214074
>the only thing that make people seeth and call it a scam is them being jews
It's the same every time. With jews, you lose. Idolcorp is a rug pull scam. He's going to get 2-3 EN gens out, pump their numbers using Israeli government propaganda initiatives and then sell the whole thing for a lump sum of cash far greater than he himself ever put in. I don't feel bad for the fans, they should see it coming. I do however feel bad for the talents, they're most likely too normie and female to realise how jewish games work. They're gonna learn.

>> No.47214550

>>47214479
I choose to believe this anon is trolling

>> No.47214600

>>47214028
Good to know. I got her recommended and found her funny. Now I know she's to be avoided.

>> No.47214651

rin has a dick so its ok one day juna will step on the back of my head onto rins dick so im fine with it

>> No.47214689
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>>47207561
>There are people who still don't know Rin is an Auntie
ngmi

>> No.47214867

It's amazing how any time you point out a jew's old tricks they pop out of nowhere to vehemently defend themselves.
"Speak of the devil and he shall appear."

>> No.47214924

>>47214600
I don't know if this makes it better for you, but Rin's actual oshi is this guy >>47214689

>> No.47214991

>>47214867
This thread started with males. The devils were here from the very beginning.

>> No.47215118

>>47214991
Right we are talking about Rin.

>> No.47215161

>>47214924
It sure does. Another day saved by /vt/.

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47215794

>>47214074
You're a different intern, aren't you? You don't type like the other one. The other one sounds a lot more professional. You kinda suck at it.

>> No.47216269

>>47214194
This, they could have gone for the bros like Axel or Bettel but they had to suck it up to the "ally" with the groomer voice

>> No.47216316

>>47207561
it means they have a better chance with altare than you sister

>> No.47216445

>>47215118
Yeah, I in particular am talking about how badly I want to fuck Rin's British pussy in every room of her house, on every possible surface and in every possible position.

>> No.47216453

>>47207561
Holy shit I can't believe I missed this absolute kino. My two favorite EN gens are colliding.

>> No.47216592

>>47216453
You better learn how to use buzzwords properly.

>> No.47216607

>>47210021
Rin has been a Stars fan since debut and has had numerous interactions with them on twitter. This is big for her, I'm happy my EN oshi is making friends with people she revers.

>> No.47216682

>>47216607
Finally, somebody sane

>> No.47217005

>>47213781
surfing /mans/ for shitposting fuel lmao never cease to lower the bar even further bros

>> No.47217114

>>47207561
Ah, fellow cause supporters!

>> No.47217186

>>47207561
>trying to bait idolfags with the two least popular members of EN /here/
At least do your corpo reps before trying faggot.

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>>47216682
Now kiss, you two.

>> No.47217931

>>47216607
>This is big for her
How? She's just another vtuber in the chat. I get that you're excited if you're a fan of her, but this is barely anything at all.

>> No.47218127

>>47217931
Altare was in her chat twice last week

>> No.47218358

>>47218127
I'm so sorry for her loss.

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>>47218127
Ah, fair enough. I thought this was just a singular interaction, I must've misunderstood. Very well then, carry on being excited.

>> No.47220833

>>47207561
its pretty funny how altare has been at the center of all the cross gender collabs drama despite not doing anything himself besides being a male

>> No.47221030

>>47207561
They're making like k-pop idols and having a sex scandal

>> No.47221068

>>47214689
>>47214924
salsa?

>> No.47224798

Im not watching whores, fuck off

>> No.47225271

Rin and Juna have been lost causes since the start. This is very on brand for them

>> No.47225444

>>47207561
Nobody had any hopes that the two people who said they wanted to collab with males from the start wouldn't interact with males, you know.
Amusingly enough, only Juna has done a male collab so far with a literally who and said collab had a CCV of 50.
Even more amusingly enough, if Rin collabed with any homo it'd benefit him far more than her.

>> No.47225629

>>47207639
Altare is the troon supporting commie. Magni is the funny gay one. Flayon is the flaming faggot.

>>47214867
>>47214924
Incredibly based. I will now watch your britbong.

>> No.47225749

"Idolbros" only cared about the ghost until they found out the ugly truth.
Now they try to cling to Rin because she's the biggest number, only to find out she pulled a Bae on debut and actively signalled she likes Tempus.

>> No.47226935

>>47225629
>Flayon is the flaming faggot.
Is he actually gay or are you just saying that because of his model?

>> No.47229109

>>47218595
MYA SEX

>> No.47229507

>>47207561
Yuko collabs with black guys, this is not that bad

>> No.47230039

>>47207561
oh damn, gonna watch the vod after their wow stream. thanks.

>> No.47230249

I don't see the problem with them interacting with homos. Them being homos means that it's safe.

>> No.47232939

>>47207561
Clout chasing

>> No.47233647

>"idolbros" are numberfags
rumao

>> No.47234175

>>47207561
You don't see my oshi DSP doing this

>> No.47236471

kike bros...

>> No.47236566

>>47207763
It's a seething unicorn sister

>> No.47237829

>>47207561
>implying anyone would care
double retard

>> No.47238108

>>47210979
> continue to leech off holostars
FTFY, at least if they tried to leech from hololive there would be something to leech, altroon can't even produce sperm anymore to leech.

>> No.47238235

>>47207561
They knew blue Omega is the only bridge to Hololive. Sorry but Selen got him first.

>> No.47238281

>>47212811
>they are the leading small corpo
In what possible way?

>> No.47238302

>nijisister gets into vtuber corp
>other sisters coping and seething
ngmi

>> No.47238361

>>47207561
they are management sockpuppeting the channels for free advertising

>> No.47238507

>>47214689
based human breeder enjoyer

>> No.47239410

>>47214924
Nah, it's Astel. Her karaoke setlist is pretty much Astel's + a couple of hololive songs.

>> No.47240816

>they don't know Rin's roommate did a 3 hour "TED Talk" on the JP homos

>> No.47240959

>>47207561
I legit haven't watched these two but I have watched the other girls in idolEN. Mostly because the rest are cunny and I also like Pochi's accent.

>> No.47241039

>>47215794
kek, you realize he just copied the text from their blog right?
https://blog.idol-company.com/idol-weekly-1

>> No.47241240

>>47207561
Look at her art tag on twitter. Its easy to tell what type of audience she has now

>> No.47241272

>>47226935
https://www.youtube.com/live/F90eoMl9mOs?feature=share&t=2546
>Flayon went other gender option as well

>> No.47241416

>>47207561
that's cool that you can see other vtubers commenting in chat. how you do that?

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>>47210915
>They will stop at nothing and use every tactic to grab every bit of turf and money they can.
I wonder why that is?

>> No.47241544

I wish I had a Rin gf, but kind of don't, because I hate her personality.

>> No.47241648

>>47240816
Anon you can't say things without a link

>> No.47243202

>>47225749
Only reason the ghost got popular at the beginning was because they kept shilling her as the new Gura here. Doing anything out of spite instead of pure enjoyment never works out in the end.

>> No.47243729

>>47208263
I now understand why there’s gura bait thread 24/7. The amount of seethe they generate purely by existing could probably power a city

>> No.47244319
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47244319

Is Katta the only good idol corp girl?

>> No.47244421

>>47207561
You don't understand because you don't watch streams. This is ok because they told us it's ok. So we're fine with it.

>> No.47244701

>>47207561
Reminder: After the experiment with having an Omega character flopped for the lore, the person behind that account shifted into on screen talent as the "leader" of the all male gen. He is still the "producer" of the female EN talent. If you're not already friends, you gotta shmooze the fag if you want to collab with the talent worth mooching off of.

>> No.47244967

>>47226935
Nah, he's really a >

>> No.47245803

>>47241648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-7H-sOK5zE

>> No.47246754

>>47244421
It's not ok for Juna but it's ok for Rin

>> No.47247072

>>47207561
Rin has said from the start she is a fan of tempus. This was a collab with Bettel which it seems like she's a big fan of Bettel and Hakka. Purple unity. And vice versa. Bettel is always in her chats too.

It's fine. No one is saying they are anything but what they are.

>> No.47247126

>>47244319
Yeah
>Idol
>only 1 real Idol and she is also a crazy schizo

>> No.47247279

>>47210768
you should be more specific
>random valorant 1on1 collab with a indie male where the entire point of the collab was to flirt with strangers

>> No.47247376 [DELETED] 

>>47247126
Katta is an idol?

>> No.47251774

>>47207561
ogey

>> No.47253190

>>47247126
isn't that the best kind of idol?

>> No.47253278

>>47244319
Pochi is menhera, but other than that she doesn't have any yabs.

>> No.47253591

>>47229507
What?

>> No.47253917

>>47245803
I kneel

>> No.47254017

>>47245803
yuck

>> No.47254128

nijisister here
if you FUCKKING dare get into a corporation and you like my oshi im gonna FUCKING anti you

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>>47209910
lmao

>> No.47254260

>>47207561
poor Gabe, I remember him trying to become Juna fan, then she 'betrayed' him so he picked another Idol member... Rin.
now he's a retard in /eien/

>> No.47254339

>>47244319
Katta gunned down an Iranian nuclear physicist from her motorcycle in 2011

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47254374

keep seething retards!

Ponder this haiku:

Keep seething retards,
You'll never be a woman:
Your oshi is shit.

>> No.47254389

>>47254260
>went to /eien/
dude cant catch a break

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>>47254128
An angel that went through hell.

>> No.47254576

>>47254260
>>47254389
>kronii
>woozie
>ophie
>juna
>rin
>probably a bunch more I forgot
It has to be intentional at this point. There's no way anyone could be retarded enough to not realize what a chuuba is like when they damn near say it right out.

>> No.47254749

>>47254260
>poor
There isn't any reason to feel sympathy for a retard with mental illness. He got what he asked for.

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>>47254260
The dude just has his women radar set to "the opposite of what I want" and hasn't realized yet

>> No.47254950

>>47213662
Choke on yid dick

>> No.47255186

>>47254576
I dropped Ophelia the moment I heard her utter the words "person that lactates" after correcting herself when she originally said mother. That level of woketard is unforgivable.

>> No.47255266

>>47255186
Holy shit. That's some next level of degeneracy.

>> No.47255357

>>47214028
She said her Oshi was Suisei to her mother in that vtuber stream they did iirc

>> No.47255413

>>47255186
Timestamp? I subscribed after she collabed with Kiara, but this would change my perspective.

>> No.47255557

>>47210915
Not a fan of (((idol corp))), but:
>Buying ads on Youtube
It's completely normal to buy ads to shill your business. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.
>Scamming funding from the Israeli government
Not a bad thing either as long as you can get away with it. You're leeching off government with little to no consequences if you're smart enough.
>Astroturfing on social media sites, especially here on /vt/
Most EN chuubas do same in one way or another.
>Begging for collabs with Holos and Homos
That's problematic, but business-wise it's common to leech off other people's attention. Best to bully them away in this case.
>Begging for donations once a month with something-athons
Thot behaviour. Common thing. High risk, high reward. Most people burn themselves out with that.
>Trying to get already established (20k+ subs, their words) indies to let them scrape money from them
Yeah, that's pretty evil in my opinion, but can work.

>> No.47255636

Rin is a pretty big vtuber fan in general. Seems to love the scene and the streamers regardless of agency, gender or nationality

>> No.47255809

What has Rin said that is woke in the past? She seems like a cool girl

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47255849

>>47255809
she is and she is my wife

>> No.47255939

>>47255809
Nothing too suspicious aside from being hyperactive. She tends to be annoying with her levels of activity though.

>> No.47255960

>>47255849
She looks like she'd be weak to anal

>> No.47256015

>>47255939
Hyperactive I can deal with. Will give her a watch

>> No.47256166

>>47255809
nothing. not sure what woke takes you expect from a fuck-off level wealthy, white, british woman.

>> No.47256235

>>47210915
>>47255557
Hololive did many of these things to survive back when Nijisanji had a strong grip on the vtuber market. It's just what it takes to survive when you have negative clout. Otherwise you end up like Tsunderia or Prism.
Hard work with no clever tricks won't get you anywhere.

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>> No.47256815

>>47255960
She is

>> No.47256959

>>47245803
Oh she wasn't playing up that voice

>> No.47257178

>>47245803
She's too strong, I wish I was this dedicated to my oshi

>> No.47257270

>>47245803
>>47257178
You mean autistic because there no way in hell she isn't to make a whole PowerPoint about it

>> No.47257693

>>47255186
I'm trying to find which voice acting video it was but I don't remember. I think it's within the past 2 months or so but if you listen to her long enough you will hear Twitterisms come from her regularly and not in a joking/ironic manner.

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Bin is a male (female (male))
Stop acting like you know what you're talking about, retard

>> No.47258645

>>47255636
Unitychads stay winning. If Mori were more into vtubers when she joined Hololive, I'd likely have a very different outlook on her. Rin seems to easily traverse the tightrope of normie sensibilities towards this media and being a deep in the rabbit hole degen.

>> No.47259275

>>47258645
Rin taught herself Japanese by watching Holostars, so I'd say she's pretty deep.

>> No.47259353

>>47207561
Rin was cool with them from the start
Juna idk

>> No.47259354

>>47259275
Also Autism just like Mori

>> No.47259696

>>47259353
juna is a pretty normal girl, she doesn't talk about holostars or anything, from the sound of it she became a vtuber in the interest of making some friends
She's very happy right now it seems and her happiness comes through a lot in streams so she's nice to watch if you need some happy energy

>> No.47259741

>>47259696
i hate being happy! >:(

>> No.47260510

>>47259696
>juna is a pretty normal girl
Watch streams

>> No.47260719

Rin is a prince.

>> No.47262847

>>47207561
Why Altare of all people? Are they suporting the cause?

>> No.47262980

>>47262847
He’s really nice and easy to approach, also a huge unityfag that talks to small corpo/indie vtubers all the time.

>> No.47263843

>>47262980
You might think that, but he's a troon enabler. So he can't really be nice.

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Requesting Kronii panic hitting Spider Bae with a flyswatter and Spider Bae being into it.

>> No.47265719

>>47256166
None. Sounds based as fuck

>> No.47266315
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>>47262847
>Why Altare of all people?

>Vesper
Old man and reminds them too much of their fathers so they're scared of him
>Axel
Too much of a dog and he doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks so they may think it's hard to talk to him
>Magni
He's a good choice to be friends with but mostly in his own lane. I guess he doesn't "fit" enough or whatever so they don't bother
>Flayon
He's little-brother zoned by default
>Hakka
His spic energy overwhelms females and only others can keep up (Ironmouse)
>Bettel
Similarly to magni he'd be a good friend but he's in his own lane and I think girls might find it hard to keep up with him
>Shinri
Like Vesper he's too much like a father and I think that scares girls away because again, he'd remind them of their own fathers

>Altare
Very easy to get along with, usually just goes along with everything with little resistance. His voice makes him easy to talk with too.
But Im not a female so I can't acurately pinpoint why they'd choose him over others.
Also the "support the cause" shit is a played out meme but I guess this is the c*t*l*g**

>> No.47266423

>>47254260
Imagine getting cucked by the same groomer-sounding faggot 3 times, I would say I feel bad for him but I don’t. Containment breakers get the rope.

>> No.47266524

>>47266315
>>Flayon
>He's little-brother zoned
Perfect for the Shotacon vtubers

>> No.47266630

>>47207561
wha'ts the page to check this kind of stuff to see the messages sent in the waiting room and during streamz? holodex?

>> No.47266662

>>47266630
Holodex

>> No.47266879

>>47241272
>Other: Machina X Flayon
faggot he put it there to put his name.

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>>47207561
Oh nooooo.... oh nooooo, tribalbros... stop.... no.... that's "leeching".... Stop enjoying things....

>> No.47266937

>>47207561
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
AVIELKEKS????????

>> No.47267529

>>47266883
I'm happy she gets to hang out with people she's a fan of.

>> No.47267563

>>47266883
Making fun of the British is always funny, and will never be offensive.

>> No.47267681

Keep up the good work blue homo, she seems fun so if you get here to hop on over we'll take her.

>> No.47267940

>>47266883
Proud of her

>> No.47269785

>>47263843
He's not. You fell for catalog retardation.
Hope you enjoy it when Pikamee reincarnates into VShojo

>> No.47272869

>>47207561
Collab soon hopefully

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