/asp/ - Aspiring Vtubers and Startups

[Anonymous No.]

What is /asp/?
A thread where we discuss our vtuber aspirations! Whether it's agency-based or independent, let's help each other grow and make it as entertainers. Indies are welcome to join, but shill responsibly. Share what knowledge, insights, what works/doesn't work for you. Remember to do your research before providing personally identifying information to companies online!

FAQ:
Do I need an expensive, fully rigged Live2D model to be a vtuber?
No! You can always start out as a pngtuber!

Where can I learn how to Live2D rig avatars?
Check out Brian Tsui's (of Iron Vertex) YouTube channel!

Where can I find artists/riggers?
Skeb.jp, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, etc.

Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

Twitch or Youtube?
Multistream to both.

RESOURCES:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/2mkc8x9P

Stay grounded, stay hopeful. Don't kill yourself yet

Previous thread: >>4721775

[Anonymous No.]

>>4731836
Cute Jill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4731836
Huh, and this week I was planning on starting up VA-11 HALL-A on stream too, this must be a sign Hopefully a good one

[Anonymous No.]

>>4731836
>tfw no jill holo
>tfw no misato holo
it's not fair bros

[Anonymous No.]

I was going through wvt ghostbin and was thinking - how are the most popular vtubers there so popular? How is Koopa, Batatvideogames or Ninaninin so loved? What's the secret sauce?

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>>4733382
if you can't figure it out without having to other people you're ngmi, it's not even complicated.

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>>4734064
To me they are nothing out of ordinary. That's why I'm asking.

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>>4734385
>Koopa
birthed by /hlgg/ and had a lot of support because of it. Charming personality and doesn't take the same cutesy idol approach a lot of women do
>Nina
CEO of Seiso, found by /vt/ at some point and was heavily promoted by people here; a lot of people point towards her as the example of an indie closest to hololive in terms of her personality from what i remember
>Bat
been streaming for like 8 years and eventually made it through hard work, personality, and her weird endurance streams

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>>4734556
You forgot the part where Nina has one of the best indie chuuba singing voices in general. I think out of the /wvt/ core chuubas the only one who even comes close is ASS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4733044
Go for it

[Anonymous No.]

Let's not die again
is it better to put on a fake voice that matches the avatar more, or just speak with a normal voice even if it doesn't match the avatar?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4738456
Depends on how well you can keep it up. I feel like if you do it, but drop it mid way through your steams it's worse than just talking normally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4738456
it really depends. there are both, you just need to find what style works for you and is something you can keep up for a long time.

snuffy tried the uwu voice, then switched to her normal one. the vshojo girls all use voices. the 3D vtubers like Pren and Girl_DM don't use a voice, just their regular stuff.

and for guys, there's Kongou, Randon and Power Nelson who put on an act, but a bunch of others who don't and just talk in their normal voice. hell, even Ugly Bastard Project talks in his normal voice (which is kind of a huge disappointment)

[Anonymous No.]

iono bros, i think /asp/ is running on fumes these days. gen 1 is off, doing their own thing. doesn't seem like we have any talent left for gen 2 to keep the thread alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4738456
Can you afford to stream for 2+ hours doing a voice? If you can, sure. If not, don't destroy your throat because of a character, your health comes first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4741310
It’s what idol hopeful wanted

[Anonymous No.]

>>4733181

[Anonymous No.]

>>4741310
We have gens? Who is in Gen 1?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4742493
Kenji, Cadence, Callie, Odette and others

[Anonymous No.]

>>4741310
people say this every few weeks; its a cycle
i'm pretty sure people were calling this dead prior to a bunch of last months debuts as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>4742493
basically everyone's who's streaming regularly now.
odette, tomakeys, power nelson, teruteru, retsu, callie, cadence, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4742493
our gens are about as official as /wvt/'s gens
the debuts of people from /asp/ were pretty spread out from what i remember
i know odette and kenji started in march, a lot of others started in late april/early may
i think elliott might be the first chuuba that openly associated with being from this thread?

[Anonymous No.]

Is there an easy way to connect a laptop to my pc for streaming without spending so much on a capture card?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4746777
i don't think there's a way to do that with a laptop, unless you're planning on gaming+streaming from the laptop (which will horrifically hinder your game's performance) and using the desktop to do the encoding+uploading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4746847
couldn't I use my laptop to handle my avatar & the mic with the pc doing everything else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4746920
i don't think that's possible.

i know you can connect your Android/iPhone via wifi (or ethernet, if you have an iphone) to your desktop and run your avatar feed from there. the microphone would be better used if you directly plug it into your desktop to avoid latency issues by pushing it through multiple devices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4746961
that's a shame, I was thinking of using my laptop since it has a built in webcam, but I guess I'll have to find another way
thanks anyway

[Anonymous No.]

What is the key to good avatar design?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4747836
overall simple, one key characteristic that sticks out with a consistent overall theme

[Anonymous No.]

>>4747836
Couple things I've seen is sticking to 3 colors, not over designing (think like final fantasy level of belts, something that's easier to convey in low detail), a striking silhouette, that kind of stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>4746777
https://www.obs.live/articles/2019/5/1/how-to-stream-with-two-pcs-using-obs-studio-and-the-ndi-plugin

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw i realize my model appeals to the male gaze's ideal of masculinity
>tfw i'm probably just going to get a bunch of horny gays who want me to top them
>tfw i'm not going to get any fujos
bros, what do i do, i'm already $1.5k into this and i can't get a refund...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749294
What kind of design anon? Post an example of what it looks like and we will judge its gayness for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749345
i don't want to post a work from my artist so i'm gonna post something similar that shows up when i reverse google image search

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749385
Anon I am a fujo and so long as you have the voice and or personality to fit the model, I will femgosling for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749399
well that's a bit of a relief, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749421
Yeah, as totally unbiased opinion, I feel like girls are slowly drifting away from the fujo bishie boy designs and looking towards more beefy ones

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749270
thanks very much

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749447
i was actually a little worried about that. was reading up on it because i was curious, but there's talk about how big muscular guys were a thing that men thought women wanted to see (rather than what they actually wanted to see). but i'd come across this only after getting my commission locked in, so i was just having some self doubts about it.

thanks for the words of assurance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749447
Like us boys drifting away from big boobas to cute and funny... uuuuuuoohh

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749512
There is a difference between the type of big guys that girls want to see vs boys. However, so long as your character is manly but not gross (i.e balding fat middle age man) you should be good

[Anonymous No.]

>>4747836
don't put too much in it. Obviously, guy in hoodie is too simple but a lot of designs that get posted in here are too complicated and have too many colors/too much going on

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749499
Sure no problem. What you want to do is something a lot of big name (Non-Vtuber) streamers do already. Cohh immediately comes to mind if you know him. The caveat to all this is that your router and your computers need to be beefy in the networking department. Don't even try doing it without hardline cable connections to both computers. And don't stream above 720p unless you have CAT 8 cables and a CISCO-grade router.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749583
>tfw middle aged boomer avatar with a big moustache
fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749709
anon, you could have become literally anything you wanted.... and you chose to become a middle aged boomer with a moustache?

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>>4749709
Don;t worry there is still a daddy niche too, it will just be narrower. However, good presentation is still key. You mostly don't want your character to look like a fat ugly bastard/gonk character and you will be good. Play up the gentleman/father (not quite daddy) angle and you too can succeed and I will also femgosling for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749742
would you not want to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749773
if i could redo myself, i'd do something like pic related that was posted in /wvt/ last night

[Anonymous No.]

>>4747836
you could always check out gijinka (specially the pokemon ones) and see how they incorporate the memorable aspects of pokemon into their human designs.

[Anonymous No.]

WB removed their claim on my video! I know I'm not monetized yet, but it felt like a weight if my shoulders. I'm just worried they might come and claim it again later on. It's that something that can do?

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>>4751610
>It's that something that can do?
yes. if they update whatever content they have in YouTube's Content ID database, it'll do a new sweep with the updated content. there have been stories of people getting years old videos hit with new strikes because the parent company dumped a bunch of stuff in a new form into the database.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749764
>mfw my artist does a kinda similar style to >>4749796
>my characters also shirtless and bearded
>absolutely not going to do BFE or lewd stuff at all in my stream
>entire basis of the character was to feel like the viewer is chatting with an older friend/uncle
It'll be interesting to see what kind of people watch my streams, but I just want to find a comfy group of friends for a community and talk about booze while playing niche games.

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>>4751842
that was my feeling too, I don't want the goslings or whatever, I just am a bit of an out of touch but well meaning boomer and wanted to play that up when I stream for fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749796
The thing I worry about with designs like this is the really small eyes and face. I get that your voice matters a lot, but when you can see expressions the the voice/model carry split is more like 75/25. With this it feels like 99% into the voice.

[Anonymous No.]

about to stream in 30 minutes
wish me luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751946
i think that's one of the biggest problem with having anime-inspired adult male characters. every adult anime character is characterized by a big face, small eyes, and very stoic expressions like pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751979
Good luck!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752026
>>4751946
>>4749796
Hm, my design also has a sort of 'serious' default resting face, but that both fits the overall aesthetic of the character, and my own resting bitch face. I am considering seeing if I can get the artist to change the default face to the happy/jovial look, especially as that's more the emotion I (hope) to have when streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751720
Well that sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752407
good luck, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752407
It's not necessarily the end of the world, belmond pulls it off. But you really really need a voice.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I develop a shota voice? Hell, how do I develop any type of voice whatsoever? The only thing I can do with my voice is make it deeper or make it sound like some monster by grumbling my throat while making it deeper. Whenever I try to sound younger I just end up sounding like I'm trying to do a very poor imitation of a woman, does anyone have any links that they can send me to read?

Also, I found this voice actor on tiktok share his home setup recording if anyone is curious on how to soundproof your desktop. Just surround your place with PVC pipes and drape blankets, followed by felt and you then stick foam on your felt with the occasional pins on it, see here https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMet5eEMV/

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756355
Look up transgender vocal tips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756648
Is that really the best way to sound younger? I've seen other anons ask somewhat similar questions and get the same response in here, do voice actors not teach others how to control their throat and mouth?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756355
Just look up some voice acting training videos. All the techniques are about the same. Please understand though there are limits. There will be sounds you just straight up can't do well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4745992
What do you mean? Wvt has separate gen (members) or do they just have separate classifications? Wouldn't there be a lot of overlap?>>4750938
Bretty cool

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>>4758502
In terms of homegrown vtubers, the first batch that started after koopa were Carmine, Eira, Arypie, Rin, and Bunzel, who were at the time referred to as 4clover
The next batch of chuubas were called the RTStars (since they all played RTS i'm pretty sure), consisting of Egg, Alaric, Symmakos, Melchior, and Spacer
I think after that though, there were just a lot of chuubas popping up to the point where people stopped keeping track of any sort of grouping

[Anonymous No.]

post your ideas, concepts, color schemes, or designs cuties.

so I can copy them

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759503
guy in a _hoodie_ _

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759503
Tbh most designs are fairly copied by others in some way, you can literally just copy and paste things from almost every chuuba and come up with a fucking monstrosity of a design.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759503
Green and brown color scheme, gardener who wears gloves and has a straw hat. You cry or get upset whenever anything violent happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759503
GFE/BFE with a cosmic monstrosity that barely understands human romance, could have multiple avatar versions for some shapeshifting shenanigans

[Anonymous No.]

For me it's Ada.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4760009
we have way too many tall, lanky dude wearing glasses in an aristocrat-like outfit male chuubas...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4760040
This one's a girl though!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4760114
it's just a purple haired version of Elliot Ambers then

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759503
https://twitter.com/Cvnka_

[Anonymous No.]

>>4761500
Meant for
>>4759881

[Anonymous No.]

>>4761500
haven't see this name in awhile, used to watch their stuff before they went vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

i'm having a tough time figuring out exactly what content i want to do. the youtube recorded stuff, even though the videos are like 10 minutes long, still eat up maybe 3 hours of my day and a ton of work making sure the content is accurate. on the other hand, i can just stream some video games and hope i get a few viewers that way on twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4763146
do both, or better yet just make edited down videos of your streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4763615
literally do not have enough time in the day. job + stream or job + research + recording

[Anonymous No.]

>>4763715
do what Ludwig does and record your videos on stream https://youtube.com/watch?v=0i9gkprYekI

[Anonymous No.]

>>4763146
>3 hours
Lucky

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759503
Secretly 10000 year old shota who speaks with a mature voice and has fangs

[Anonymous No.]

>>4764264
so a reverse dragon loli got you

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759503
My idea is that I already have at least 30 games to play on one-off streams and I've never played any of them!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4770306
isn't that just the typical hoodie vroid backlog streamer but with short games

[Anonymous No.]

>>4771190
Where do you think one person can just find 30 games that should all be tangibly related to each other to not alienate people?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4771404
what does this question even mean?

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>>4772795
I didn't just pick the games out of a hat anon.
Besides them I already have regular games to play anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752026
has anyone gone for the over expressive funny guy archetype in anime as there character?
would love to see a vtuber like that riff off of people in colabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759881
i will gosling

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>>4774666
>over expressive funny guy archetype in anime as there character?
can't think of anyone other than Gintama that might fit that. but the problem there is your "over expressive" emotions will all have to be custom animations that are triggered by hotkey. you won't be able to express that range of emotions through just deformations in Live2D. so it'd have to be some pretty expensive custom work.

[Anonymous No.]

i'm just browsing Skeb commissions and like half of them are wrong or don't follow the request of the people putting in the commissions. how useful are these? i hear a lot of anons talking about skebs, but almost a 50/50 chance of the artist not understanding what you want seems really dumb.

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>>4775370
you need a friend that does there nihongo reps to properly convey what you want to the artist, or to use deepl and try to stick to proper grammar and sentence structures in english for the best translation.

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>>4776115
i mean, it was pretty obvious and simple shit like "i want my character to hold the sword up and covering the left half of his face" and the art just has the sword non-existent. i don't know how much DeepL or a translator will actually help when the artist doesn't seem to give a shit other than the bare minimum of.

[Anonymous No.]

Even though I'm not going to be doing a "debut stream", I'm having my first actual stream tonight and I'm still nervous as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>4776225
good luck anon!

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like I'm stuck doing videos instead of livestreams until I can pony up a grand to upgrade my computer. Good job me. Got a vtuber and can't do much with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4778955
pc parts come first before model, you can upgrade the model once the parts come.
hope others take this as advice to start with a balance of good hardware and a good model and not go overkill on one without the other, both go hand in hand, a good model can’t run on a poltato pc, and a good pc won’t be put to good use with a png.
upgrading things in moderation is key until everything is available evenly is the best approach.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4779463
Yeah, lesson learned. The problem was I got lucky with finding a cheap but good quality model and rig and couldn't let the opportunity slip away.

At least I can save some money with other assets by calling in favours.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the right place to discuss making youtube content and trying to get them to reach an audience?
This thread is the closest thing I know of but I don't want to be a vtuber and it feels wrong to treat this thread as a general purpose "content maker" thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4780754
Reddit/newtubers
Serious answer: take a copywriting or content writing course.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you make sure you can't have accidents where your avatar switches to a real facecam like this?

https://youtu.be/oW3gayaTyVw

Is there any fail-safe software that indies can use?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4783403
Use phone as webcam with vtube studio

[Anonymous No.]

good iphone vtuber programs with vroid models so less load on my laptop? vtube studio doesn’t work with vrm and vseeface takes too much gpu. tried waidayo but all i see is a green screen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4779463
I have neither but I'm still trying

[Anonymous No.]

i hope its okay to post here, but my model got finished and im doing a little reveal thingy on twitter if anyone is interested..! https://twitter.com/Retsubol/status/1402287487586873352

[Anonymous No.]

>>4733181
I want Jill to laugh at my dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>4783403
vtube studio with an iphone makes that literally impossible

[Anonymous No.]

>>4783403
I thought a lot of software made that impossible unless you fuck up and forget to disable the macros to switch to debug view
if the tracker loses track of your face it will just revert to the a pose for the model

[Anonymous No.]

explanation of what the iphone sees and what's sent to vtube studio

[Anonymous No.]

>>4788415
Retsuuuuu! Ganbatte neeeee! I'd retweet but I don't have a twitter. Glad you've got a model though!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4791917
doesn't this also work on android with depth cameras like Pixel 4?
or did they not bother to interface with android face map data?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4792346
Only works with Apple's API currently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4792346
only iphones.

i'm not smart enough to understand the difference, but i'm guessing it's the way FaceID translate that data into a form that's readable for vtube studio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4792429
both have the same capabilities as long as the phone has face unlock
it's just that they're being lazy right now and only want to support depth maps for apple instead of spending a few hours to modify and port the code to android

[Anonymous No.]

>>4792500
Fofamit explains it a lot better than I could ever.
https://youtu.be/5ZDxrS8sNhM?t=22

[Anonymous No.]

>>4792500
There's more to it than "just port it to Android lmao", the app needs some way to get the depth map data from the phone's systems.
I don't know if Google makes the depth map data available to other apps, or what protocols they use, but VTube Studio is basically built from the ground up around Apple's face tracking API.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4792317
thank you so much, anon!!!!!! i will work super hard with this new model for you guys! i hope you like it when it gets fully revealed <33

[Anonymous No.]

>>4788415
that's cute. i hope you kept your lobster plushie somewhere on the design, or at least have it as a viewer avatar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4794162
it's on my sleeve! ^^

[Anonymous No.]

>>4794222
adorable, can't wait to see it get revealed!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4747836
Don't half-ass animal themes
Don't rely on sticking on fashion acccessories to emphasize the theme
Don't be a "regular guy"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4794255
>Don't be a "regular guy"
you can't tell me what to do
*puts on hoodie*

[Anonymous No.]

>>4794240
oh, nvm, i'm fucking blind. it's already been revealed in the follow up tweets, lmao. definitely adorable!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4774666
>>4774753
Lupin III
Favaro from Rage of Bahamut

[Anonymous No.]

>>4794255
What do you mean when you say don't half-ass animal themes? I have one in mind but I don't know if I'm taking it in the right direction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4794896
someone linked pic rel in /wvt/ and it's basically "generic anime girl" but she's """"""themed""""" like a panda because panda hair ties

[Anonymous No.]

>>4794930
So don't just make the clothing and accessories themed, make sure there are distinctive animal traits on the person as well. Gotcha. Any example of a good animal themed chuuba?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4794896
>>4794930
On twitter there's a lot like her that just use animal accessories

[Anonymous No.]

>>4788415
see >>4795005

[Anonymous No.]

>>4794896
>>4795005
Most of the owl themed chuubas do this right.

Naiyospede is alright but she does the theme in a similar way to Magna Centipede from Megaman X2

Most of the maverick bosses from the Megaman X series of games do a decent job with the theme.

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>>4795005
>Any example of a good animal themed chuuba?
Ripskip is fairly dragonlike, I would say. Juniper/Atlasmoonshine/Yuniluna for moths. Kaiku would have been a decent soider vtuber if she didn't abort from vtubing on the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4788415
here is the fully revealed model for the anons who don't check twitter! i hope you guys like it / u \ ) <3
>>4795005
i think snuffy is a really good example, character wise!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4795393
that's cute as fuck, congrats retsu!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4795393
Are you still going to do the cute drawings with song bites on Youtube?

[Anonymous No.]

How important is it to be good at video games ? I constantly people trashing skills of chuubas who are better than me. Or should I just stick to my guns like turn based rpgs and strategy ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4795771
>How important is it to be good at video games ?
not at all unless you're advertising yourself as good at video games.

[Anonymous No.]

A friend of mine that does e-sports suggested I should try doing tutorials and podcasts. I'm starting to take the idea seriously. My one concern is that I grew up in a pretty vulgar home and can sometimes unleash gamer words that would get me cancelled immediately. How important is it to do live content? Will I never get off the ground?

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>>4796044
just don't say gamer words then? stop using it in your everyday speech and it'll stop being a habit. and cancel culture doesn't exist, fuck off with that nonsense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4795771
Stick to what you like. Your feelings are infectious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4795420
thanks so much!! <3
>>4795746
yes i will! i should have one up this week or the next :D i am also open to song suggestions for those lil vids!
>>4796044
im just a newbie, but i posted recorded vids for a while and it seemed to work alright in the beginning! eventually you will need to start doing livestreams though i think :{

[Anonymous No.]

>>4796115
Trust me when I say I don't use them in every day speech. It's entirely impulsive when I get too excited and I fear it might be some kind of tic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4796214
>I fear it might be some kind of tic.
it's not, or you'd know.
just start creating content right now and see if you start spewing gamer words. you won't know until you actually put yourself in those situations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4795184
Fairly decent picks that meet halfway besides the obvious birds, cats/dogs/etc and dragons:

Armored Armadillo
Spark Mandrill
Sting Chameleon
Wheel Gator
Wire Sponge
Blizzard Buffalo
Volt Catfish
Blast Hornet
Gravity Beetle
Frost Walrus
Split Mushroom
Jet Stingray
Shining Firefly
Spiked Rosered
Spiral Pegasus
Tidal Makoeen
Commander Yammark
Shielder Sheldon
Metalshark Player
Tornado Tonion
Splash Warfly
Avalanche Yeti
Earthrock Trilobite
Optic Sunflower
Gravity Antonion
Bamboo Pandamonium
Gigabolt Man-o-war

[Anonymous No.]

>>4796190
If you're open to songs I suggest Miserable's work.
https://youtu.be/0IoG1TT8Hp4
Feels like something a classy lobster like yourself might vibe with.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know about a way to automate donations, follows, subs, etc towards a completion of a poll?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4796244
You know what? You're right. I should just get to work and not worry about it. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4796190
>eventually you will need to start doing livestreams though i think
Well, here's hoping I can handle it. Or at least choose the right games to play live that don't make me go full gremlin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4796284
ooo this sounds really nice actually. thank you for the recommendation! i’ll try to think up of what kinda art would go with it ^__^

[Anonymous No.]

i'm having some trouble designing my chuuba
what are some of your guys's favorite [female] designs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4801565
I actually tried to think about it and I don't know. To me the actual person behind it is important enough that I've never really thought about "pure visual design" for a chuuba that I watch. I'm actually not sure, to be honest. I guess thinking about ones that immediately jump to my mind Juniper and Omaru Polka are the first. And Leaflit because I like slime characters. And I don't actually watch any of those three.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm having some design troubles as well
I wanted to do a big goofy Uncle type character but I'm having a hard time coming up with a name that doesn't seem boring and just like a regular American name

or am I going the wrong way and the trope of the big goofy Football Uncle who calls you sport isn't really worth pursuing as a character?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4802126
honestly sounds more like a cartoon character than a streamer

[Anonymous No.]

Got a WIP sketch back from my artist. Un-fucking-believable. Artists are absolutely amazing. I cannot imagine how they can just create amazing pieces from just a scribble and text descriptions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4802571
I felt the same way. Just give them a shitty drawing and some references and they make a masterpiece. Whats the design like

[Anonymous No.]

>>4802658
It's just a dude with a jacket.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4802720
Ok, so posting just that makes it sound really dumb and generic partner to "guy in a hoodie" but I'm fairly certain that with my artist's style, it'll be distinct enough to stand out without going too ham on the uniqueness meter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4801565
In no particular order
>Thighs
>Abs
>Zettai ryouiki
>Animal/Monster-themed
>Cleavage window
>Hip windows
>Bare shoulders
>Spats
>Opera gloves
>Choker

[Anonymous No.]

fuck you guys, i decided to pick up those nose breathing strips because i had a stuffy nose. now i can smell that fucking nose oil thing you fucks were talking about last thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Still don't have the new model yet. Got like 2 weeks left until then. But we're going to stream and play a private server of Ragnarok Online. You guys want to collab? Download TalonRO and play with my fanbase and I! I'll see you guys on stream!

http://www.youtube.com/illreviewanything
http://www.twitch.tv/illreviewanything

[Anonymous No.]

>>4802363
I was trying to think out of the box since the usual bushie designs have pretty much flooded the market. Every guy has a bishie avatar or a Twink with animal ears. Feels like it'd be hard to stand out in that

[Anonymous No.]

>>4804659
yeah, which is why you need to focus on your content and hook in viewers that way, instead of relying on a design as a crutch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4801565
Unironically Artemis of the blue has one of my favorite designs of any tuber, it's a shame they have such a shit personality that bores you to tears

[Anonymous No.]

>>4804549
just wanted to say anon, i haven't caught your streams yet but i do respect you using a non traditional looking model like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>4804682
I do have content focus, I've been streaming on the account for years and have a small following, just needed a design that didn't clash and complimented so much.
Honestly I'm just looking for a non debuff design to focus on and draw myself so I have something and am not still a disembodied voice streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>4804749
just pick anything that suits your voice and personality
>neck phrenology

[Anonymous No.]

>>4804686
you like guys in hoodies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4804810
>Neck phrenology
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4804902
whatever your character's design is, make sure it matches your voice. deeper voice = thicker neck, lighter voice = thinner neck. that's literally the only thing that really matters.

your design and personality could clash hard (emo-goth energy but have bright colorful bubbles and shit) and that'll add to gap moe appeal. but your voice + neck phrenology need to match.

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>>4804961
Not him, but what if you can't even see the neck through a massive beard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4805241
then you're fine. it'll leave it up to the viewer's imagination to fill in the gaps and they'll just mentally pick on that suits your voice.

[Anonymous No.]

Ahhh bless my artist got the first draft out, still working with them on lots of changes but good to finally make progress from text to draw

[Anonymous No.]

>bunch of anons getting their vtuber drafts
/asp/ gen 2 incoming?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4805946
I will not associate with /asp/ publicly or admit I browse here
that is a one way ticket to getting 4chan memes spammed in your chat and weirdos driving off the more normal viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>4806026
i mean, on one hand yes.
on the other hand, you can literally check out Odette, Callie, Power Nelson, Teru Teru, Cadences, etc. streams and see that it's.. pretty normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4806026
>>4806217
Just don't out yourself as an active 4chan browser and instead a /asp/ or /wvt/ browser

[Anonymous No.]

>>4806026
I honestly don't think its that bad. You just need to not let the idiots run wild with stupid memes and 'in jokes'. Keeping the peace will calm that down pretty fast. And while I don't think I'll ever announce "Hey I've been on 4chan for like 15 years" as a streamer, I'll post on threads here and hint at stuff but leave enough room for plausible deniability.

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>>4805946
gen 2 but with fewer groomers

[Anonymous No.]

>>4806536
i'm okay with that, plus it sounds like most of the soon-to-be chuubas are males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4806560
Wow I never thought I'd ever see a wave of males outside of horse boys

[Anonymous No.]

>>4806608
>horse boys
what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4806608
elaborate

[Anonymous No.]

>>4806560
implying I'm not already prepping to groom a cute femboy vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

would you guys consider mmos to be a debuff? I've been kind of curious as to play ff14 since I get it recommended by a lot of people in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4806987
hyper debuff
ffxiv has almost no real content creators for a reason
wow requires some legacy knowledge with the franchise and besides that you still have to hard-carry with your personality

[Anonymous No.]

>>4807140
fair enough, I've been thinking about trying others since they're are a lot of free games but I can agree with the latter as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4806026
this is literally a non issue in anyone's stream related to /here/

[Anonymous No.]

>>4806987
The problem is the minute-to-minute gameplay tends not to be overly exciting. Even high end raiding is boring to normal observers, and anyone excited in that or MMO PvP enough to enjoy watching that content would just be playing it themselves.

I do think casual play of MMOs can work if you use it essentially like a talking stream with the game as a background object. But as the main point of the stream it'll probably be rather bland. Though some may get a pass... if you can somehow stream Scarlet Blade or something you may be able to get some eyes on the stream before you get booted off twitch for too much tits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4806560
It's our time bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>4806987
It's a debuff unless you can somehow make the social aspect fun for the stream, and not just yourself. The gameplay can get slow, and generally isn't fun to watch unless you're fucking around with friends or pushing something like worlds first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4731836
free rig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMmIOIf-da0

[Anonymous No.]

>>4807419
we bros gotta stick together

[Anonymous No.]

.....ngl, i have a nagging feeling that at least two chuubas here share the same artist mama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4807667
which two? I know of some chuubas from here that have the same artists

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>>4807787
no idea. none of them have posted. but it was just interesting how 2 mystery chuubas mentioned getting drafts back from an artist at around the same time. the thing that tipped me off is that they both mentioned their artist stopped taking commissions and they both managed to get in just at the cut off.

or maybe i'm just off my meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>4807859
That's more likely just coincidence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4807859
>artist stopped taking commissions
Even Iron Vertex stopped taking commissions for Live2D rigging. So Live2D model artists must be getting flooded with the hype. Probably a coincidence. That being said, take your meds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4801565
HK416
Fairy Leviathan
Zas M21

[Anonymous No.]

>>4807859
Honestly that'd be kinda neat if someone here was done by the same artist as me, though my artist only does men. I mean, a vtuber they designed is just getting a daki and mousepad, so at least one of my eventual 'siblings' are doing well.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any merit in going very simple for a design? I didn't see the point in going the idol route or some deep lore character, so I basically just made myself but anime. I have a unique accent and I'm really laid-back so I'm hoping that would be more approachable for viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4809154
simple designs are fine but you should have some kind of splash of color or unique portion of your model
if you look at some of the more simple designs like in holostars, they still have something like a different colored label that looks like a pizza slice or heterochromia that sets them off from anime guy in a suit/anime guy in a hoodie

[Anonymous No.]

>>4809154
Nothing bad for having just a virtual avatar. I mean so many people have OC's that represent them, it shouldn't be a surprise people want to have non-niche designs

[Anonymous No.]

>>4809225
I think my character stands out for colours. Nothing outlandish, just nice and coordinated. Women have a lot more outfit options luckily, though I kept it casual to match my personality.

>>4809245
I guess not. I'm keeping my content pretty simple with looking over current/future anime and researching niche topics, so I thought it'd be weird to have an OTT character that doesn't match.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4809154
I know from mingling in non-vtuber circles that some people find most vtubers "overdesigned" in reference to clothing and hairstyles that have a lot of details, but they don't seem like the kind of people that would be interested in watching a vtuber that meets their standards anyhow.
I'm personally avoiding the whole deep lore character thing myself, but I'm not sure how effective that is when the design is a couple of steps off from looking like a retarded edgy anime boy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4809580
It might be worth looking at runway fashion shows from companies that do male fashion. You'll find some surprising stuff that's a bit different but not ridiculous.

Before I went with the simple design I was looking at them for inspiration and found some interesting stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4809023
>tfw there's a lot more male vtuber dakis on twitter than i expected...

[Anonymous No.]

I got an extra 11 followers today as a malechuuba, I'm feeling good although I think affiliate is still far off yet even though I'm mostly doing it for fun. Good luck to any other brothers.

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>>4806987
It's been like a decade since I've started watching video game streams/videos, and time spent watching MMOs probably totals to under and hour, if that says anything. There's no content there unless you're interesting enough to have a conversation, unrelated to the game, that can carry it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4807859
It could also have just been the same person saying it a second time in a different thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly, I thought that EN wave 2 would be nowhere as big, but now that there'll probably be a mass of graduations, at least from the big company YAB today, or they'll make a push that'll deter viewers, you'll see them coming to the more indie people which will be nice.

[Anonymous No.]

How bad of a rep is it being associated with 4chan these days? I'm in the sketch phase of getting my model done, but I'm not sure if it worth the risk shilling myself in the /wvt/ thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821300
just drop a png, link, one line description. refuse to elaborate any further. have plausible deniability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821300
use the plausible deniability of "searching through low viewer tubers to discover a new one and found x"
or "my friend found this guy"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821371
>>4821556
My smooth brain hadn't even considered that.
I feel like that's extremely obvious, but maybe I'm just paranoid.

Thanks anons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821808
every friday, someone starts a dumpster diving thread where you go to Twitch, search for the vtuber tag, sort by lowest veiwers and then share what you've found. that's the mentality you want to adopt.

as far as anyone else is concerned, you're just some anon who dumpster dived and picked out this random chuuba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821808
Just don’t drop spaghetti and break containment.

[Anonymous No.]

just got notice at my job FML

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822107
I'm sorry to hear that anon. Hopefully you'll move on to something better. Some random person believes in you, don't give up!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821808
about half the dumpster diving thread is just anons shilling themselves lmao
even in wvt when they post random dumpster diving finds it's people shilling themselves or friends, who fucking cares
just don't drop 4chan memes in your stream and ur fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822107
yabai

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822195
they're letting me stay on until the end of the month

[Anonymous No.]

i want to share my WIP sketch because it looks super cool but the taint of 4chan... can't even pretend to be anon since it's literally just me and my artist who knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIZ8d1m9u-0
How can I rig a photo like this guy has? I may or may not be the Dirlewanger guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829967
doesn't look like a rig, looks more like a repeating gif made using those deepfake things to move the face around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829967
thats a deepfake gif
it is possible to make a rig like that though, if you're willing to put in the time to cut properly

[Anonymous No.]

I was thinking of leaving my VODs on Twitch for the two week duration and make a private backup on youtube subscriber's only. They'd get a pastebin with links to unlisted playlists.
Obviously they could share it with other people but I'm not concerned about that. I wouldn't stop them.

My question is: Am I too vain? Is this an alright benefit? I want to offer more than just emojis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4833797
i don't know if people care that much about vods

[Anonymous No.]

>>4834168
I thought so too because I never do it but I've had a few people mention they go back to VODs and watch them.

[Anonymous No.]

Since some of us were curious about graphic design and all that, I think we should stop looking at examples of bad design for the meantime and post some decent if not good if not great examples to learn from.

I know these are normie stuff, but it's hard to argue fundamentals here.

[Anonymous No.]

My logo will be wordart-tier and there's nothing you can do to stop me