/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

The final yab happened

[Anonymous No.]

We couldn't protect her bros......

[Anonymous No.]

Zhang wons, pack it up, might as well delete /vt/.

[Anonymous No.]

Pack it up boys, Golden Age of hololive is over. It's only downhill from here on out. Fun times while it lasted.

[Anonymous No.]

It's over. There no point of Hololive for me. If she's gone, then its over. I won't stay behind when the one that brought me here is to go away for real. There is no point.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm guessing Haachama is next to follow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811544
The wilds are always eventually paved over by focus tested corporate mandate. GG vtubing. It was a fun ride.

[Anonymous No.]

no fucking way

[Anonymous No.]

literally fucking why?

[Anonymous No.]

guys whats going on

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811624
fucking take it back

[Anonymous No.]

What is prompting this end?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
whats she saying I just tuned in what the fuck man what

[Anonymous No.]

nuke china off the fucking planet

[Anonymous No.]

Guess Fubuki and chammers are next. Hololive is probably gonna go downhill from here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811826
Graduation, she said shes leaving Hololive. Happening right now.

[Anonymous No.]

We're powerless against the changs bros, first Cena now this.
It's over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811947
No...

[Anonymous No.]

Just accept we are living in a china dominated world now and they're our overloads

[Anonymous No.]

why do the mods let these stupid ass raids happen?

[Anonymous No.]

>Coco leaving
>Nyanners collab confirmed
Hololive is dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811826
Graduate...

[Anonymous No.]

Bros.... we.... we failed... WE FUCKING FAILED!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
Congradulate VShojo, because thats where shes heading

[Anonymous No.]

I can already hear the millions of chinks screaming on the other side of the world

[Anonymous No.]

total war with china when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811544
This is the truth. Coco was the vanguard of Hololive's climb to fame. Without her they are nothing to a lot of people.

[Anonymous No.]

No seriously, what was the announcement?

[Anonymous No.]

Pls say sike....

[Anonymous No.]

FUCK CHINKS
FUCK CHINA
AND FUCK ARTIA

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811908
Why Fubuki?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812303
She's graduating on July 1st.

Reportedly videos and channel will stay up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
And it will come
Like a flood of pain
Pouring down on me
And it will not let up
Until the end is here
And it will come
Through the darkest day
In my final hour
And it will never rest
Until the clouds are clear
Until it finds my dreams have disappeared

My dreams disappear

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811826
Coco leaves effective immediately

[Anonymous No.]

MAJOR RRAT LISTEN TO ME
MAJOR RRAT LISTEN TO ME
MAJOR RRAT LISTEN TO ME
MAJOR RRAT LISTEN TO ME

SHE IS STARTING HER OWN COMPANY. IF WE SEE MORI GRADUATE NEXT THEN YOU BE ALMOST SURE SHE IS GOING WITH COCO. MAYBE HIJI OR WHATEVER SHE IS CALLED FROM VSHOUJO, HER AND CALIS ROOMATE HANG OUT.

AGAIN RRAT
COCO WILL START HER OWN COMPANY AND TAKE OTHER HOLOS WITH HER.
SHE WILL WESTERNIZED VTUBERS FROM WITHIN JAPAN ALLOWING SJWS TO HAVE POWER. ITS OVER THE BIG YAB IS HERE. ITS OVER.

SCREENCAP THIS.
IF MORI OR OTHER HOLOS GRADUATES SOON THEN YOU KNOW MY RRAT IS FAT.

Thread theme.
https://youtu.be/zc6KUlXP--M

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812409
>>4812438
Haha, really funny. What was the announcement raelly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812371
She's the canary in the coal mine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812542
It's real, you stupid fuck

[Anonymous No.]

She will be fine, she will just stream on old persona

[Anonymous No.]

remember when talking about the final yab was funny?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812632
Noooooo it's not real! It can't be real...

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812632
Haha, but seriously. Why is everybody spamming this joke today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812371
Fubuki has said that she would leave if she felt the company was going downhill.

[Anonymous No.]

This image isn’t so funny anymore...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812806
Maybe I should follow this anon´s steps and just deny reality and live day by day pretending some things never happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812806
anon...

[Anonymous No.]

We lost? FUCK CHINA AND FUCK COVER FUUUUCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812885
>>4813051
Cover is not going downhill, Coco is starting out her own company where she can be as yabai as she wants. This isn't about zhangs.

[Anonymous No.]

China should be destroyed and Cover should wither and die.

The Americans are our only hope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812085
Oh no.

[Anonymous No.]

*cracks knuckles*

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[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji won

[Anonymous No.]

Check the reddit boys, Hololive made the announcement. She made the call herself.
Coco is flying away.

[Anonymous No.]

She's got 3 weeks left, her last stream is July 1st. Hopefully we'll find out more later this month.

[Anonymous No.]

She's not graduating and if she does then it's good for her. She can finally play whatever the fuck she wants for content instead of being stuck with r*ddit meme review

[Anonymous No.]

The shackles are loose now. Can't wait to see what she has to say about zhang and hololive on July 2nd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813263
Makes sense. If she got fired like magnet she would have to leave immediately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813172
holy based

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813263
>made the call herself
honestly, i kind of doubt that.
this is standard industry issue for a graceful firing to try to not stir shit up, I mean du yu really belieb that cover would outright go "we fired her lol "

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811826
The end of the good times anon, it was fun while it lasted.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope your future is better Coco and may you fuck the 4th Chairman

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813672
Cover still thinks it can get that chang money

[Anonymous No.]

>bitcoin fucked
>hololive fucked

I wonder what else is fucked today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812303
Dude for fucks sake she said it in english, she is graduating july 1st.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm done with this. The zhang actually fucking won. The battles literally means nothing. Props to Coco for staying strong this long. My hatred for chinks grows and I guess this is the end of an era. Cocohi...I'm sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813791
You're mum.

[Anonymous No.]

fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813791
Not my penis haha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813767
they'll be sorely disappointed that the radical chang does not forgive things so easily
that said, I wonder if this will have a ripple effect since likely the other girls know whats truly going on, if I remember right a few holo's would say they'd jump ship if coco was canned
this may actually BE the final yab

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812025
Fuck fuck fuck I need to pick up mandarin RIGHT NOW

[Anonymous No.]

Holy hell man, I'm kind of glad I started getting into the NijiEN girls, so at least I can watch the trashfire from a safe distance. I do hope she starts streaming again as her roomate or, if the rrat is real, opens up her own agency, cheers Coco you magnificent bastard.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking Mori, how could you

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814000
the roommate never stopped streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812806
...anon I'm sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813672
I thought Fubuki will be the lithmus test for this... if she left after this, it's cover's decision, if not it's all Coco

[Anonymous No.]

Do you guys think this is the beginning of a lot of graduations?

[Anonymous No.]

The whole reason there even is an EN community is Kaichou, what is it even supposed to look like with out her? i truly honestly see this as the end on the Hololive EN community

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814253
A domino effect is honestly possible and I’m legitimately terrified at the thought

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813672
You're retarded if you think that. Coco brings in literally stacks of cash for Cover. I'd sooner believe she's starting her own thing to keep more of that.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Mori collab was so shit she made Coco quit HOLY SHIT

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813884
>tthe zhang actually won

He already did that on November 4th, 2020 tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814253
Nah, this is too well-managed.

If anything happens it will be big but I doubt it, she took enough care to at least not endorse this stuff let alone actually endorse it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813767
They'll have to fire Haachama first then

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
you WISH this was the final yap

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814234
Fubuki is fully on the abusive black company stuff, that's why she said that because this way no one suspected cover is a shit company, while Fubuki is on the board, pocketing the money and abusing the interns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813791
is this the price we pay for the sins of rrats

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811544
Dubs of warning

[Anonymous No.]

I'm expecting more graduations , it's all downhill from here

[Anonymous No.]

If your guys' rrat that she's starting her own vshoujo-esque group, or actually joining vshoujo, is true I'm going to kms.

[Anonymous No.]

WHY BROS WHY

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814666
Hellish trips

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814389
>Kanata leaves next because she’s so close to Coco

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck China.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814666
ah fuck, just when the EN ttrpg was getting started too

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814253
yes, choco mel ayame shion, maybe luna too

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814757
A Vshoujo without the pandering dick and cum jokes would be great

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811544
Fun times ahead too lad, we get to watch one the biggest virtual trainwrecks on this side of the great wall unfold right in front of ours eyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814792
because corporate vtubing is literally disney levels of control and moderation. She's better off being independent

[Anonymous No.]

lol wtf? did she get too much money on her irl channel? this is nuts

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/kiryucoco/status/1402451661893738496 why they fired her

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814666
Holy fuck Satan

[Anonymous No.]

She just had a birthday stream on her roommate account. What the fuck is going on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813158
>The Americans are our only hope.
oof

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814666
Satan why

[Anonymous No.]

A-at least my Oshi will be safe from the blowbackright? Shes from an entirely diferent branch after all, r-right?

[Anonymous No.]

I literally can't believe that this was her decision. There are too many recent streams where she doesn't show any vibe of "I'm gonna be graduating in a month".

cover can put out all fucking PR announcements it wants but dyrb they're not savvy to how the west views the Coco situation? EN was not as big of a paypig as they thought it would be, so they're slowly crawling back to China and trying not to lose EOPs in the process. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

its sad that so many of you play genshit chinkpact and actively contribute to the fall of hololive. damn....

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814757
I doubt she's even fired from the company. She's probably taking on a behind the scenes role.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813113
.. Coco did say she originally applied to be management, right? This just means she's going to stop vtubing as coco and move on to being a full time manager, right?RIGHT? I TMEANS COCO ISn"T REALLY LEAVING

[Anonymous No.]

I was merely joking with this thread... I didn't really want the Final Yab to happen...

Coco, /vt/... I'm performing dogeza and begging for your forgiveness...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815169
You think they might pull a Noor on Coco? Interesting rrat...she COULD be the new EN overseer though while still streaming on her rm account, every single person already knows who she is anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
No, this is the start of the end. The final Yabai is a compendium of yabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814548
>while Fubuki is on the board, pocketing the money and abusing the interns.
Wut?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not sad about this at all since all chuuba will graduate eventually. It's just a matter of when. It might not be tomorrow or next week or even in a year, but it will happen one day.

[Anonymous No.]

The worst part about this is that regardless of the reason this is happening, the Chinese/antis in general are now empowered forever.
Expect much worse negative reactions to basically anything anyone could be upset about regarding Hololive, especially anything the Chinese decide to take up as another crusade. Expect more spam, in every chat, forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>Aqua on break
>Shion AWOL
>Flare going to have surgery
>Ayame No Strem
>Anitubers still collab with EN
>Vshitshow is collabing with EN
>Coco graduating
Fuck the CCP and western, feminist whores!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815099
Is your oshi Reine? Just hope that Pochi won't leave because she was a huge Kiryukai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
this is what happens when you inject too much reddit basedsauce

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815134
if this move drives out all these anti-china shoehorn politics from vtubing then it's great. These faggots tryna make it so you feel like walking on eggshells for eating fried rice and playing arknights like wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815445
>Ayame No Strem
That's normal though

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815326
that won't bring coco back Anonchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815364
>pull a Noor on Coco
Is Noor still working for AnyColor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815367
Wise take, just like the fall of the Roman Empire didn't happen overnight so will the Final Yab, in a couple years form now on there will be hundreds of papers and documentaries about the ''Fall of Hololive'', time to start documenting all the shit that will happen from this day foward I guess...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
What's going to happen to the hololive house?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815428

Which means they will turn their full attention back to Aqua unless she's starts streaming on bugmen youtube again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815428
This. Even the fucking implication of Taiwan at this point is basically ammo for their shitposting now that this shows they do have the power to cancel people. Never fucking bend to cancel culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
>Zhangs won
NOT LIKE THIS BROS.... NOT LIKE THIS...;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
There are two rrats and neither is good.

RRAT 1:

This is Cover's decision. They caved to the chinks, changs won, it's fucking over. Holos will now have to stream on bilibili and suck Xi's tiny dick.

RRAT 2:

This is Coco's decision. She's leaving to start her own company free of Cover's restrictive rules, and likely taking Mori and Ollie with her, as well as probably Kanata. All the recent Mori tantrums (don't care, 5%, Gura collab, gigagook) have been because she knows she's bailing for Japanese Vshojo under Coco.

So either chinks destroy Japanese vtubing, or SJWs destroy japanese vtubing. There is no happy ending. If either of these rrats is fat, it's over for us. This is the Final Yab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814402
o7

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815475
Pochi is not a Holo employee in any way anon, she was just a hired artist. Reine will be fine, after all, she is already fiflthy rich and is just streaming to make friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815133
You're a fucking retard. EN was at least 10 times the payout they expected. They spent months prepping the girls to debut, then launched them all on the same day to try and keep up momentum. They debuted in order of how successful they expected them to be to try and help out everyone. They gave all 5 of them 1 manager. The girls themselves have all separately confessed they expected to grow about as quickly as ID 1. Cover talked to them and set their expectation. After the sub explosion, cover scrambled to get Calli her own manager, and picked up a new one to handle Ame, Gura, and Kiara. NOBODY expected the success we got from EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815326
I was kidding posting about the dawn of the final yab... please I didn't meant it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815326
There are two rrats and neither is good.

RRAT 1:
This is Cover's decision. They caved to the chinks, changs won, it's fucking over. Holos will now have to stream on bilibili and suck Xi's tiny dick.

RRAT 2:
This is Coco's decision. She's leaving to start her own company free of Cover's restrictive rules, and likely taking Mori and Ollie with her, as well as probably Kanata. All the recent Mori tantrums (don't care, 5%, Gura collab, gigagook) have been because she knows she's bailing for Japanese Vshojo under Coco.

So either chinks destroy Japanese vtubing, or SJWs destroy japanese vtubing. There is no happy ending. If either of these rrats is fat, it's over for us. This is the Final Yab.

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry Anons i couldn't pull out fast enough and ended up cumming inside of her, I wish for your forgiveness

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
Damn. Shame that the chinks won.
What a fucking sign of the times.

[Anonymous No.]

now i see why Shion is depressed

[Anonymous No.]

You get what you fuckin' deserve

[Anonymous No.]

It's not fucking fair bros, the only Coco + EN collab we got was fucking Mori spilling gallons of spaghetti...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815571
Yep, after they nuked the IN's they realized that Noor was too good to just throw away, so they put her in charge of some managerial position. Rrat on the streets is that she is the NijiEN main manager. I can see a similar type of deal working out for Coco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812025
>i've been cursing at the chinese everytime i see a tiktok ad
>coco wasn't my oshi but i was strting to like her a lot
Fuck...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811544
Golden age was pre EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815650
This ain't due to China. If it was because of China they would outright say it and apologize to the CCP. We seen before how this playa out in other industries, China doesn't like just a walking back, they like a full on apology and some public humiliation too, not some behind the doors deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815792
Pills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815792
rrat 3:
Fuck Waluigi made people angry

[Anonymous No.]

I guess Coco ran out of people to do meme reviews with so she decided to quit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815650
What does the 5% shit even mean? I keep seeing it get spammed when people are shitting on her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815754
No, Reine will be fine. I'm talking about things like future outfits/accessories for Reine.
Though Pochi is a professional so I guess she'll stay if out of responsibility for Reine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811544
Those times were already over way before EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816071
>tfw no meme review with Nyanners

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815902
it's not like it's going to be a horrible loss
all they lost was their reddit basedainhaling goddess
nothing important lost and everything important gained based china putting reddit in it's place

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815650
>RRAT 1:
This is unlikely. If this was Cover's decision, why did it take a fucking year to come to this, and why would they cut loose one of their top earners?

>RRAT 2:
This is also unlikely because a "Japanese Vshoujo" wouldn't work culturally, and she's too nativized to Japan to go full western.

Consider

>RRAT 3:

Given Coco's experience in helping set up HoloEN and personal investment in the company (including living in the same building as 3 other members), she's transitioned to a backstage management role.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815650
RRAT 2 is the one most likely
Cover put up with the bug shit for a year, even dissolving an entire branch to keep her.
Why would they fire her now after they solved the spam problem for the most part?

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjshUXZ16Wk
VICTORY FOR CHINA!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815941
golden age was pre-azurlane collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815792
Why would Mori go? She gains nothing. She's only hololive to promote her shitty music.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811544
I legitimately cant remember the last time I was this upset over anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814666
>>4811544
>4 is death number in japanese
>666 is evil satan number
Holy shit, we're actually doomed

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811544
Pretty much.
Any good indies? How is that koopa girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
I just came here to laugh at you faggots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816085
Mori told her deadbraps that she only streams 5% of her day and has other things going so to please fuck off with all the request.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816102
Reine and Pochi (and Iofi) are actual friends and a contract is a contract, I doubt Pochi would pull a Kei move.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815986
>If it was because of China they would outright say it and apologize to the CCP
Yeah? You think a company based in a country whose local demographic is significantly more nationalist than the average westoid would be okay with that kind of move?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816136
Thank God, fuck that dumb, weaselly bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813172
So... when are we adding "Kiryu Coco" to this pasta?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816071
Imagine all of the content she can do if she actually quit. Permissions limit your content to nickelodeon reruns and syndicated tv shit. People crying about this just don't know about that other channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814438
I think it was Shion bailing last minute, possibly at the behest of Aqua that made Coco say "Fuck it". If her own coworkers won't put an end to the Zhang's rrats, why stick around? She's got plenty of subs on her rm's account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816085
Mori said that only 5% of her time was dedicated to streaming after her Gigguk collaboration

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813791
>Kiara is obsessed with hololive
>Kiara mentioned she bought bitcoin a while back in her WoW stream
Orange Bird is not having a fun day

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816085
Mori said in a zatsudan-drawing stream that interacting with chat makes 5% of her day better. Rrats interpreted this as saying that 5% is how much she cares about streaming and in turn, hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816317
Kek, deadbeats are fucking retarded paypigs, I'm glad I never cared much for Mori, imagine hearing that from someone who is planning to buy a house with money you gave her.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't wanna be alive anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814438
I can see that happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813158
we're fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816395
oh shit

[Anonymous No.]

Gonna leave /vt/, everything here reminds me of Coco, and it's fucking hurting my soul...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812806
Shut your bitch ass the fuck up you annoying unfunny cunt

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815919
The only way I see that happening amicably is for Aqua and Shion to do the last reddit meme review with Coco and be teetee as fuck and cry over her graduating. If Aqua and her don't speak on stream again, I promise you, EOPs will make Aqua's life hell alongside 5ch autists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
This is too sudden, did we ever have a foreshadowing of this? Like Coco giving clues or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813158
>The Americans are our only hope.
Just wait until the end of the year, things will have flipped on their heads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815326
I'm gonna forgive you, if you tell me who was the anon who spoke with the chinks.

[Anonymous No.]

why did she keep turning her mic on and off in the vid...

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3T57HYEvV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3T57HYEvV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3T57HYEvV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3T57HYEvV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3T57HYEvV4

Information from an insider, may or may not be true, but since the video was prerecorded and posted while Coco was making her announcement, there's some credibility.

>Coco wanted to apologize by saying that she didn't know about the Taiwan sensitivities when she came back after the Taiwan incident break.
>Cover didn't allow her because it would make management seem bad.
>Cover then bullied her (the incident where they made chinks mods, prevented her from collabing,...) until she agreed to quit.
>Cover then lifted the restrictions and "supported" her to make it seem like she was happy within Cover and it was her own decision to leave.

COVER HATE

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816663
it was to prevent the mic from catching her laughing

[Anonymous No.]

KNEEL

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
Unsubscribed to all vtuber channels. Not just hololive.

There's no point anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

Now I'm fucking worried about Haato. Shes still young and impressionable what if she takes Cocos leaving as entirely her fault for getting involved with the zhangs and shit to begin with?

[Anonymous No.]

we all knew that the first big graduation was coming soon but I didn't think it'd be her, I imagine the chama is going to be the next one

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816192
if #3 was true, they would have announced such and avoided this whole dumpster fire

[Anonymous No.]

May we all pray for a Nanking 2: Electric Boogaloo

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816701
Forgot to mention, the video started out with saying the following.

>There's a good amount of Chinese in Cover's management that didn't like Coco to begin with since she's American.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813158
We lost.

[Anonymous No.]

Crosspost: Narukami premiered a video he recorded just after her announcement.

It claims that Coco was basically harassed into quitting by cover, and the recent EN collabs are her saying fuck it and going over management's head

Remember her passive agressiveposting about not being invited to the new year's stream on the main channel? Makes you think...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3T57HYEvV4

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811544
Holo Golden Age ended with EN+the China drama. It's been going down since and this is just the final straw before it becomes totally soulless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811544
This. The age golden age is over. I didn't watch her but this is like the 1527 Sack of Rome. No more heights, only lower and lower. Coco pulled the trigger, I expect Korone and Shion to follow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816543
I understand. I want to filter everything but my Oshi's general thread (she's an indie) and only come back to talk about her and only her. I love all the Holos but this is too much. I can't even fathom the thought of tuning into anyone anymore. What is the point? What am I wasting my time for? Coco was my gateway and if she's gone, what is the point of me going to the rest of them?

It doesn't even feel as if Hololive have a point anymore to me.

[Anonymous No.]

it's over
they won

[Anonymous No.]

This isn't the final yab (at least not for me). But if Korone ever graduates, then I am done with hololive and vtubers as a whole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816701
>listening to chuuba keemstar

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813172
Basedo

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816701
Kinda makes sense in that japanese style "don't fire, make them quit by demotivating".

[Anonymous No.]

https://cover-corp.com/news/

Cover's statement has been released in Chinese. I don't like where this is going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813172
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816582
The foreshadowing is her planning a ton of collabs and having a month before officially graduating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816437
You’re retarded. She said streaming was 5% of her day but she totally does other stuff behind the scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
It might explain Shion roommate depression posting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816904
Fubuki has made it quite clear she'd quit if management ever did something that screwed over the company. Firing one of their top earners probably fits that bill. That will cause a chain reaction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816834
holoEN exists retardchama, also there's nothing stopping her from saying what cover did after graduating if they truly bullied her into quitting which would kill them completely so there's no way that rrat is true

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816873
I want this asshole to die. I have never seriously ever consider such thoughts unironically but I want this piece of motherfucking shit to fucking die. If there is any justice in the world, he should be killed but there is no such thing.

I hope he will just go to hell.

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>>4816701
Sounds like normal modus operandi of asian, especially japanese, work ''ethic'', aka ''don't fire them, make them leave", buut
>japanese keemstar
yeah my man I gonna have to call it bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816873
This is unfortunately very normal for japanese companies to do rather than fire you directly.

[Anonymous No.]

cant believe we're going through an end of an era...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816701
I was following until step 3

Step 4 is just retarded nonsense. If HoloLive wanted her out, they'd have kept things bad until she quit and be done with it. Hell, they've done it a while ago.

The hypothesis that she is leaving because she wants to is more plausible - I just don't know if because she's going to open her own agency, or because she couldn't deal with harassers any longer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812785
not even negrohombre can save us now...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817152
what did he do

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815013
She's only 22. Jesus. I always assumed she was much older.

[Anonymous No.]

expect the vsingers debut in the coming weeks

[Anonymous No.]

Why are they releasing an announcement in communist chinese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816873
Why is she in the HoloAlt video?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815986
>posted the announcement in simplified Chinese
https://cover-corp.com/news/
What did they mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811624
If Haachama leaves I will dead ass kill myself

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815650
RRAT 3: Coco leaves but stay in hololive as manager. 1-2 weeks after her graduation HoloEN gen 2+HolosingersEN annoucement happen with 7 or 8 girls in total. In the next months more graduations from HoloJP will follow(shion, ayame, maybe suisei), meanwhile EN market keep growing and the EN branch get more liberty to do collabs and have a more "western" vision of streaming. By mid of 2022 hololive will be a full normie experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812474
take your fucking meds, jesus

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817362
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817348
Money spent long before the yab

[Anonymous No.]

Aside from America, China is probably the worst nation in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817269
>She's only 22
really? she looks over 30 and has a boomer's sense of humor

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813791
honestly didn't even notice today as being particularly red after that $17 chainlink day recently

[Anonymous No.]

Guess that means we can delete this board then

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817331
Cause cover is a dick sucking faggot corporation and i don't believe for a second it was cocos choice to graduate now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815650
Honestly, its probably a combination of a lot of things. Maybe she had other things she wanted to do with her life. As much as I'm sure she loved Vtubing, it'll only get you so far if you have any ambitions outside of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816395
shion's getting hit with antis so hard she bailed her roommate account and the fanbox she just started.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been sitting in my car for almost an hour because i can't walk into my house without anyone seeing me crying.

[Anonymous No.]

Bros, I can't fix the timeline...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816701
The Japanese are never going to fire you no matter how incompetent you are.... No, they will drive you crazy until you quit yourself...

No one accidentally puts the Ch as moderators by mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817433
>>4817269
i think that was a joke like marine's "17 second season" thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815792
If rrat 1 is true, Fubuki will probably ditch. If she ditches, make sure to get the fuck out.
I find most of rrat 2 to be unlikely. She'll probably go back to streaming full-time on her roommate's channel, or maybe debut as an indie. I doubt she'll go full blackjack-and-hookers on Cover, even if it would be glorious.

If rrat 2 does come true in its entirety, i'll suck your dick

[Anonymous No.]

There's people right now, in this thread, posting with you and replying to you and empathising with you, that are shittalking other holos on another tab.
There's people here, right now, that spammed cat gore on kiara's twitter (these are actually all from jp and vt)
There's people here pretending to care about this and will do this exact same thing to any other vtuber of any other company if it was funny.

This is you. The people that got coco graduated are just like you but in chinese. This is your end goal, the stream you just watched but with whoever you've been nonstop spamming for 7 months now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813172
absolutely based

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817128
FBK was just saying that to calm people down. She's a shareholder trying to get more leverage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817135
>there's nothing stopping her from saying what cover did after graduating
There's a little thing called an NDA that I'm sure they made her sign.
Kojima famously couldn't talk about Konami after leaving for that reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817375
Coco staying on as management while still making bank on her roommate channel is the only outcome that doesn’t make me want to burn the whole thing down. Vtubers were a great distraction during the pandemic but I couldn’t enjoy them the same way if it went down like this. I have other hobbies

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815313
YES FOR THIS AT LEAST!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817503
Stay strong bro, with pain comes growth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816890
>I expect Korone and Shion to follow
If Korone leaves it's fucking ogre.

[Anonymous No.]

What is the extension y'all use to play the sounds attached to image filenames?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816748
More like I KNEE. Fuck the CCP and its supporters. Fuck every chink staff member and manager that got in Coco's way and forced her into a corner.
>>4816819
I assumed Aqua or Haachama. Choco if she was actually getting married this year. I thought Coco would be with Cover for at least another 2 years.
>>4817269
She's lying/kayfabing even in 3d form. Coco is around 30 or 32. She talks about graduating uni like it was a decade ago. Japanese women and age are a sensitive subject. A woman over 25 is basically and auntie in the eyes of their society.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817468
in terms of money she should be set for the rest of her life

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814666
trips of confirmation

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817210
Her roommate is still popular, and brings in mad money.
If she continues there, she won't go hungry. She's also a millionaire, so unless she put everything into Bitcoin a couple of days ago, she'll be fine.
If she starts her own company... Cover might see a migration of most of the old gens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817654
That and she wouldn't want to destroy them for her friends and coworkers

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811624
Felt like she wanted out all this time. Maybe it was because of this.

[Anonymous No.]

>Be Coco
>Have to do retarded voice that destroys your throat all the time

>Be roommate
>Can do all the shit you do as Coco without the dumb voice and the added sex appeal of being Asian American
I'm amazed she ever did the whole vtuber thing desu

[Anonymous No.]

Kiryu Coco 桐生ココ 动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814666
Well Satan wouldn't lie

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817652
>Bro just trust me on this

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816701
Honestly Cover could have just fired her day 1 of the incident but instead they gave her like half a year to keep streaming so she could save up some money and make memories. Cover is hardly guilt free but I'd say Coco got a pretty good deal out of all of this.

[Anonymous No.]

there's still a lot of hololive i like, but this really hurts.
it seemed like she was going to be around for a lot longer than this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812806
It's a terrible day for rain isn't it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817504
KEEP TRYING
DO THE IMPOSSIBLE
SEE THE INVISIBLE

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817713
Same here. I feel like the domnio fell and it's over. If FBK left I would drop things too since I wouldn't want to deal with the shit show.

If there is no exodus is it possible to just sweep this under the rug? Fuck. Everything is bad. So many talents are on the verge of breakdown, like Aqua and Shion. Korone has flirted with leaving. Haachama has dropped hints.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817654
the thing is that cover depends 100% on their reputation, if she even slightly insinuates something bad happened they're done

[Anonymous No.]

chinks

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817892
Suisei's tweet all but confirmed that Coco herself made the call. The way Cover worded it made it sound like they tried to convince her not to go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4813791
Oh hey I just realized it's black people who are fucked, since Tariq "living meme" Nasheed decided to make black people woke on the issue of, apparently, white slave owners fucking black slaves in the ass. Based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
I can no longer enjoy hololive....

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811624
nene will follow with how they forced her to be redesigned

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
the end, time for me to find some hobbies to replace the internet for a while

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817937
Gabriel prepares to blow.
It's been an honor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817937
Wait. Was Korone’s episode maybe related to this? If coco is getting screwed it won’t stay under wraps for long. Time to corner Kiara with superchats. She can’t keep a secret to save her life bless her

[Anonymous No.]

why is everyone acting like her roommate's channel doesn't exist?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
they finally got her...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817937
Fuck me, I never considered everyone being depressed and taking breaks being connected. We’re in the end times of Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

This chick is an entrepreneur and entertainer. History will absolutely see this as the downward spiral of Hololive.

And the fact that she phrased this whole things as leaving Hololive wasn’t an accident. She will still be in the vtuber scene. Will be interesting to watch how this plays out.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't you find it funny that she announced graduation just after a collab with Calli? I think Calli pushed her over the edge so she can get the superchat money instead.

[Anonymous No.]

There is still time for an Ame/Coco collab, right?
Gura Coco?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811544
This is the beginning of the end

[Anonymous No.]

Is she staying with the company in a management or reincarnation role?

Or do we boycott Hololive and consider them persona non grata on jp and vt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814666
Lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818190
Will her roommate collab with hololive though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817937
my headcanon has always been that chama would leave once she entered college

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818307
>I think Calli pushed her over the edge so she can get the superchat money instead.
what you mean?

[Anonymous No.]

When WW3 breaks out and everyone's drafted, I'll be handing out Coco decals to slap on mags.

[Anonymous No.]

Kanata, Aqua, Shion, Haachama, Miko are next, others will slowly leave too as Cover loses credibility, it truly is over bros I can't believe it

[Anonymous No.]

We live in hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817937
Each of the EN girls will breach their NDA's and make irl face videos titled "The Truth." or "What Really Happened"

The JPs' will do something similar but less dramatic

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818466
their hololive avatars are so good though, i wonder if they will be able to keep them. like imagine korone as not as her doggo avatar.

[Anonymous No.]

Post your rrats of the future developments. I'll start.
>Cover made Fubuki sign a contract after she stated her leaving if the company is black that she can't leave without taking a major blame so won't quit while she wants

[Anonymous No.]

Kanata wears her heart on her sleeve. If there is any funny business on Cover's part she'd show it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817267
He did nothing wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818307
These collabs happened because they knew Coco was leaving

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817964
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818565
>Each of the EN girls will breach their NDA's and make irl face videos titled "The Truth." or "What Really Happened"
LOL

[Anonymous No.]

How come coco didnt do a meme review with all of holostars before graduating?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818571
She was allegedly one of the most popular streamers on NND without any kind of avatar. She'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818374
her hololive self couldn't even collab with other holos for a while

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818190
Because Coco is the Hololive reddit-dragon, and her roommate is just another boring jap femoid who immigrated to California to get white dick and cosplay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817891
She's a shareholder, dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818571
They will not be able to keep because these avatars were commissioned by Cover. So the avatar doesn't belong to the talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816207
fuck you I got into this because of that

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818607
How the fuck would a contract like that ever work? If Japan is like the US where you get a copy of your contracts for jobs then if she had that I feel like cover would get raped in court.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818707
i was talking about my attachment to their anime avatars bruv

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818607
They probadly have that, just like they pay Mel to her to shut up about her harassment from their manager

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818119
Shit could go really bad really quickly. What if Shion's menhera episode is related to this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816573
EOPs don't have the attention span or the pure schizo power to do that to Aqua

[Anonymous No.]

mori needs to graduate for what she's done, there's no other option for her

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817352
That's nothing. If it was China it would have already happened last year when the yab happened and with a yaggo apology video. Not a year after without any apologies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818190
its not the same . . . . .

[Anonymous No.]

YOUR MEMORY WILL CARRY ON

[Anonymous No.]

This still doesn't feel real.

[Anonymous No.]

She was in the new hololive alternative video and everything. This is fucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818747
Source: my fucking dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817473
what did shion do to evoke the bugmen rage?

[Anonymous No.]

Good riddance reddit dragon

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818571
They do not own the character or avatar. In the eyes of their contract, they literally only voice act as their character. If they continued as entertainers they would just go back to streaming as themselves or they'd pick up another avatar

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818804
>they paid Mel quickly after the harassment so if she talks up they can claim she took money for sex i e. prostitution

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
Christ imagine the fucking meltdowns tomorrow morning when the Americans wake up

[Anonymous No.]

>>4815650
>This is Coco's decision. She's leaving to start her own company free of Cover's restrictive rules, and likely taking Mori and Ollie with her, as well as probably Kanata.
This is what im going with. Remember she first applied as management, and she feels restricted by Hololive. She is starting her own company. I don't think ia China because China isn't gonna accept something like this, they would at the very least want a public apology from yagoo.

[Anonymous No.]

well it was fun while it lasted, time to get a new hobby

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818319
GOD PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>4811135
READ THE RULES NIGGERS
> 用户理解并承诺,主播皮肤的设计方案不得存在任何以下类型的“动态预设动作”元素和设计方案:不得存在任何具有性暗示、性挑逗性质或擦边低俗色情的行为或表演,包括但不限于抚摸敏感部位、撩衣服、表演脱衣舞、模拟性姿势、展示诱惑动作、有走光风险的动作、互相抚摸等让人产生性幻想的动作等;
Avatars cannot have any sexual expressions, suggestive elements or performances, incl. but not lim. to touching sensitive parts, suggestive clothing, striptease, simulating sexual postures, enticing movements, or other elements and motions that entice the imagination in a sexual fashion
> 不得存在任何暴露突出敏感部位,或进行任何诱导观众关注性敏感部位和性敏感衣物道具的行为,包括但不限于展示暗示性器官、提内衣、脱穿丝袜等;
No exposure of sensitive parts or enticing audience focus on sensitive parts, clothing or items, incl. but not lim. to suggestions of sexual organs, mentions of underwear, removing pantyhose, etc
> 不得存在任何其他违反公序良俗的“动态预设动作”的元素和设计方案。
No other performance or elements which disrupt public morals.
> 用户理解并承诺,皮肤的设计方案不得存在任何可能造成观众不良反应的元素和设计方案:
Users understand and promise that the avatar and its usage do not contain elements that cause the audience to have immoral reactions.
> 不得使用恶搞、恶趣味、特意扮丑或讽刺他人等元素;
No malicious pranks, ill taste, or intentional denigration or mockery of others in elements of design.
> 不得故意突出或只有手部、脚部、腰部及敏感部位等;
No intentionally exposing hand, waist, feet and other sensitive parts
> 不得使用其他任何可能造成观众不适、或潜在会引起观众不适的设计方案。
No use of anything else to cause the audience discomfort, overtly or subtly
> 用户理解并承诺,皮肤的设计方案不得违反主播直播规范中关于“主播着装和场景”的规范,具体包括但不限于以下类型的设计方案:
Users understand and promise the avatar's usage does not violate any of the rules incl but not lim to below:
> 不得穿着情趣制服内衣(如透视装等)、内衣外穿、SM装束或印有低俗等不当图案的衣服等;
No wearing perceptible underwear with a sexual intent, wearing underwear outside, S/M gear or other low and unseemly clothing
> 男性主播皮肤不得仅穿着三角或四角及类似内衣的服装,且裤腰不得低于胯骨;
Male streamer avatars must not wear 3 point or 4 point underwear and the waist shall not be below the hip bone
> 女性主播皮肤的背部的裸露部位不得超过上半部的三分之二以上即腰节线以上;
Female streamer avatar back exposure shall not expose more than 2/3 of the upper back, above the waist line
> 女性主播皮肤的下装腰部应当穿到骨盆以上,短裙或短裤下摆不得高于臀下线;
Female streamer avatar lower wear shall cover up and over the hip bone; shorts and skirts cannot be above the lower hip line
> 女性主播皮肤的胸部裸露面积不得超过的胸部三分之一,上装最低不得超过胸部三分之一的位置;
Female streamer chest exposure shall not exceed 1/3 of chest, lowest point of upper clothing shall not be lower than 1/3 of the distance from top of chest
> 用户理解并承诺,主播皮肤的设计方案不得违反法律、法规以及其他规范性文件以及哔哩哔哩其他平台规则。举例如下:
Users understand and promise no elements of the avatar's usage and design elements violate laws and bilibili platform rules such as below:
> 禁止模仿、丑化或亵渎国家、政治人物、历史人物、革命英雄等人物形象;
Imitation of or mockery of the country, political and historical figures, heroes of the revolution etc
> 禁止使用违法、暴力惊悚、色情低俗、广告营销等元素;
No depictions of law breaking, violence and shock, sexual, and commercial advertisement in elements of the avatar
> 禁止使用国家党政机关、事业单位、国内外军政等制服或元素;
No depictions of national, military or party offices, positions, military uniforms in the avatar design
> 禁止使用封建迷信、反动、邪教类等元素;
No use of pre-revolutionary superstitious elements, seditious elements, or forbidden religious elements
> 禁止使用赌博工具、性用品、内衣等涉及不雅违禁的内容物品作为表演道具;
No use of gambling tools, sex toys, clothing and other immoral items as props
> 禁止其他违反中国法律、法规以及其他规范性
No elements that violate other Chinese law and bilibili platform rules

[Anonymous No.]

>>4818607
Delusional if you think Cover can make FBK sign things and not the other way around.
The only real authority above fubuki is the board of investors and maybe the original three founders of Cover.
When she said "if I leave you know Cover is a black company" has weight because Cover cannot actually function without fubuki, she's the lynchpin holding the company together. If you think Coco leaving will cause a wave of retirements, FBK could probably get a good 50-60% of the company out the door before graduating herself if she thought it was needed.
You dont get it.

[Anonymous No.]

Jesus fuck I can't believe this is actually ruining my day. I hardly watch Coco that often, but you never really know how much you'll miss someone until they're gone I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4816145
youre such a shortsighted goon. a tiara missing even one the smallest of its diamonds loses its luster

[Anonymous No.]

>>4812806
It's alright anon, it's just a cruel joke that's it....

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817713
At the very least, if Korone leaves, that means Okayu won't be far behind.

[Anonymous No.]

i wonder how emboldened chinese netizens will be now

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819004
truly black company

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817964
fucking based

[Anonymous No.]

GOOD BYEEEEEEEEEEEEE
NICE TO KNOW YOU

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819095
or they just pay her enough money to make her stay just like Mel

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819078
Fuck off, bug. This ain't the time.

[Anonymous No.]

wait, doesn't she still live with Kanata and suisei?

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>>4819095
That's what she wants you to believe while she takes a personal cut from SCs and calls all vtubers inferiors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819095
its time for your meds

[Anonymous No.]

China fucking won, it's over. They are just going to pick new ones to move on to now and break them down one by one. It's fucking over

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>>4819078
>chinese
kys bug

[Anonymous No.]

One wish, that I can't pretend I don't wanna see come true
I know it wouldn't make a difference
If you thought of me as much as I think about you...
But maybe it's deliverance?
From the pain I know is coming on when my old soul's finally gone
It's not wrong to think about it, but I'll stop for tonight
'Cause we're immortalized forever in the songs that we write, ya know?

そろそろ Say Goodbye, "The End"
I'm not sorry, but I wanna see you again sometime
A song in my heart, a world of worry falling on your mind
Why don't we leave it all behind?
この瞬間が宝物
君たちとあたし、いつまでも
「今日も生きてよかった」
と言ったら、幸せ

[Anonymous No.]

This is going to give holo antis so much fuel...

I don't feel so good. I won't support Cover being this shitty and I will give up the hobby before I watch Nijisanji.

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>>4817053
no she was getting harassed by antis. although this could've added to it

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>>4819500
fuck off mori, this is all your fault

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>>4819548
Any chance Zhangs were a part of it?

[Anonymous No.]

It's funny how it would take Coco a single word to completely ruin Cover and end hololive and maybe even the entire vtuber fad.

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>>4816805
Would explain her basically disappearing off the earth for mental health reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

at least we won't get r*ddit reviews anymore

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>>4819809
I would take 24/7 reddit reviews with coco over her leaving because of bugmen.

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>>4818944
i said antis, not chinks. she posted a couple of covers that got raided, and was facing harassment over a face pic that she (naturally) says isnt her. She's lawyered up but sounds really unstable. like, potentially aloe levels of unstable.

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Before vt was made I tried to warn you all that this was gonna happen
>no way she's too big
Well, I hope none of you invested in her too much..

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>>4816192
I don't think RRAT 1 is true, cause they would've canned her way in the past and gotten a bigger apology. I hope it's RRAT 3, in which case things will still be pretty much normal, but if RRAT 2 is true we'll find out shortly with a domino chain of graduations

[Anonymous No.]

guys, i should have bought her badge when i had the chance.

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>>4817654
She can talk about it all she wants so long as the stream isn't archived. Aloe did

[Anonymous No.]

>>4817331
to celebrate

[Anonymous No.]

you can't use her to shoehorn your garbage politics anymore, good riddance

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>>4819291
FBK's family was rich before joining hololive and she's been having a steady 300 dollars a day, every day, for the last year at least, without a rent to pay.
Cover cannot afford to pay half a million to a single person to keep her quiet. They absolutely cannot afford to pay six figures to every person that wants to leave the company, and they cannot legally make anyone stay. If Choco or Ayame, people with jobs to take care of, want to leave hololive and talk about their experience with the company, they can. Cover doesnt have any restrictive covenants on their contracts as of september 2020.

>>4819354
>>4819408
Im sorry you cant understand japanese. Go harass the next chuuba on another thread.

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>>4820046
what did she say?

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>>4819863
Stop hiring literal children YAGOO.
>Ollie
>Shion
>Haachama
>Subaru
Only the duck is narcissistic and positive enough to withstand criticism. Even then she is obsessed with egosearching and what fans say about her, even in EN discords.

[Anonymous No.]

I was a member for an entire year. I'm not gonna make it bros.

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>>4818571
no they don't keep them.
she could commission an avatar that is basically Coco and continue that way though.

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>>4819863
we really cant catch a break huh
>aqua
>shion
>hachaama
>and now coco
they're all crumbling one after another. coco leaving might actually trigger something much bigger than everyones expecting

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to laugh my ass off if they reveal holoEN gen 2 anytime soon

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>>4818805
She said it was because of antis. I guess this could be a part of it and she didn't say anything though

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>>4820143
this kinda intel is why I came here to 4chan after the announcement, how tf do you people know these things

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>>4814253
most likely, this feels exactly like what happened in AKB when Atsuko Maeda (the face of the group) graduated and then followed the rest of the most popular girls

[Anonymous No.]

The amount of money they make from regaining the trust of the Chinese audience will more than make up coco's sc revenues.

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>>4820143
>Cover dindunuthin!

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>>4820424
eh, being an idol was always supposed to be a stepping stone stone onto more serious careers.

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>>4814968
I mean they've opened a branch over there for a reason js

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>>4820143
lmaoing at you if you think employees have any power over the corpos. it doesnt work like that in the west and it surely as hell doesnt work like that in japan
delusional

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>>4820272
I'm fearing that too, but I feel like more graduations are to come

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>>4820485
>regaining the trust of the Chinese audience
Impossible. Bugs are legion. They do not forgive nor forget.

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>>4818571
>their hololive avatars are so good though
they're pretty meh when you compare them with other chuubas, gura's in particular is complete dogshit, it's a model you would see from a 2 digit viewer chuuba

[Anonymous No.]

I had no idea people were this attached to chuubas. No different from kpop stans desu.

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>>4820738
I never liked coco, she's by far my least favorite holo, but this is going to have some serious consequences for hololive as a whole

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As someone who works in entertainment and media and having been through my fair share of contract negotiations, pretty clear Cover failed to convince Coco to stay for due to a mix of personal and monetary reasons. These things seem like they come out of nowhere on the public's end, but are usually sealed in stone weeks to months before the announcement happens when negotiations break down. Sounds like Cover will keep her account up and videos public after she leaves, if my shit Japanese understood correctly. Hopefully her contract guaranteed she will receive a good portion of the future legacy monetization.

Without knowing their internal business situation, I'm willing to bet Cover does not pay nearly enough for their talent to deal with the extraordinary level of bullshit they have to endure. Talent looks to be shouldering way too much on their own between running their channels, balancing multiple collabs and projects, and doing promotional work. Add antis to the equation, and there's virtually no compelling reason for talent to stay on if their agency is essentially just leeching off their work with little benefit. Pretty obvious with all the mental health breaks lately many of them have been taking. Also fuck West Taiwan -- hope the bubble they're created finally blows up in their face.

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>>4819609
Possible but unlikely. She said she thought it was a few people

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>>4820738
It is just an unfortunate sign of the times. Both attachment but also how china is exerting undue influence and ruining good things.

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>>4820182
She was scouted years ago...
>>4820272
I'm less concerned with shion graduating atm and more concerned with her not committing sudoku. her last post literally said she wanted to disappear from the world and everyone's memories

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>>4820182
Ollie a child? the fuck are you on

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>>4820947
I kneel...

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>>4820096
How many commie discords are you in, kid?

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>>4821196
she's the textbook definition of a zoomer

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>>4813172
BASED

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>>4820947
Also the fact that it is japan so if a company wants someone gone they don't fire them, just make work miserable until they quit.

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>>4821141
Okay, just what exactly has been happening with Shion? Antis + stress got to her?

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>>4821307
She is no where near the youngest though and is absolutely an adult.

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>>4821339
>Also the fact that it is japan so if a company wants someone gone they don't fire them, just make work miserable until they quit.
why do they do that? do they have to do a payout or something if they fire someone?

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>>4820158
Marine is the best senpai. The translation was wiped so there's no public record of anything else. If you find one, post it in the Delta thread.

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>>4820182
>Duck
>child
Search めっちゃバブ美 for redpill

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>>4821385
i've been romancing her up in a little mmo called World of Warcraft for the past 6 months, i finally sent a picture of my face to her and it caused her to have a mental breakdown. i'm really fucking ugly

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>>4821385
That certainly didn't help, but she's been a moody fuck for a while now. My most pessimistic guess is that the entertainment business is just not for her and she'll probably end up quitting and doing something else entirely. The amount of attention and obligation is too much for her psyche. If this were anywhere else besides Japan I would say risk of suicide is pretty low, but you know.

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>>4820492
>"I cannot read"
I know, im sorry. Try saying every word out loud.

>>4820341
FBK's RMT has been known since at least last summer. How much she earns off every stream (30% of her SCs) is public information as well. Not much compared to Kiara's 200k or Rushia's million dollar revenue, though.
Cover's finances are relatively known because all three rounds of credit are public. We also know who sits on the board of investors, half the seats are on Sumitomo and Hakuhodo and whatever their internal policies say get passed down to their investees.

>>4820630
Rihanna fires her manager if she wants to because she knows her management company doesnt do shit without her. Ronaldo dictates what he wants his contract to say and if the club doesnt like it he knows he can go somewhere else.
This is the case for pretty much every single industry where people arent simply replaceable blocks. Your boss has power over you because anyone in this thread can flip burgers the same or better.
Cover simply cannot fire Gura, and if Gura demands a bigger salary or she stops streaming, they'll give her a bigger salary. Thats how it works.
FBK is not Ronaldo but she knows if she quits half the company goes with her. Cover also knows this.

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>>4821429
idk about doxxfag shit, out of all the members she's the one that acts the most like a cringy teen

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>>4820738
chuubas are too weak still. A BTS member wore a shirt that celebrated nuking Japan but still had sold out dome tours over there. Hell, they were literally banned in china, even.

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>>4820947
Some Holos have mentioned their base salaries are shit tier, basically a bit better than a full time job at a fast food restaurant. Even poorfag Kanata thought her first paycheck was small. Their real money is in membership, sponsorships, and superchats(of which they net 35% before taxes).

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>>4821141
I wasnt really talking about graduation, just the general state of mind of the holo girls. all of those are visually upset and in the worst case, depressed
but based japan am I right? lets go idol culture and 18 hours of work a day every day

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>>4821196
>>4821698
She is the youngest ID and started uni last year. This isn't a doxx, mods. She tells chat everything. For a comparison, Anya and Reine are much older than Ollie and it shows.

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>>4820485
the moment they touch china they'll lose the west and japan

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>>4821544
figure i'll ask here, 4chan knowledge runs deep. Is that actually her or some hinted-at older sister or something

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>>4822092
lol

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>>4821782
>chuubas are too weak still. A BTS member wore a shirt that celebrated nuking Japan but still had sold out dome tours over there.
chuubas are women
the concerts being sold out in japan being filled with women
i think you know what i'm talking about here

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>>4822116
anonchama...

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>>4821339
That happens way more often than you think in the West, willing to bet more often than Japan since seniority carries so much weight over there. It's a classic underhanded management tactic when the company is faced with needing to expedite an end to a high-profile contract that is still years out from expiring, but can't simply fire the person -- either for bad PR reasons or due to expensive termination clauses built into their contract. So what do you do? Make life as shitty as possible for the person as legally allowable by the terms of their contract until they quit. I've seen it happen so, so many times.

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>>4811544
Golden age was pre-EN
The Eclipse was started by Coco on that cursed Reddit stream
We're entering the arc of endless suffering

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>>4816145
>basedainhaling
You are a schizo. You complain about this on multipel threads and yes, it's only you that cares.

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>>4821782
if your fanbase consists of mostly kids/teens then you can do whatever you want and become pretty much uncancellable

[Anonymous No.]

are there any better rats than >china and >money?

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>>4821639
>>4821385
>いろいろ我慢して、耐えて、いろんな所でいいところだけ見せてきたけど正直本当に辛い。
I've put up with a lot, endured a lot, and only shown my good side in many places, but honestly, it's really hard.
>なにしても何か言われるし、それで落ち込む度表に出るの私には向いてないなって思ってしまって。
No matter what I did, people would say something, and every time I got depressed, I felt like I wasn't cut out to be out in the open.

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>>4822370
you can say Dream, it's okay

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>>4818698
gotta get that creampie compilation in

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>>4822430
yagoo impregnated her and she's retiring to raise their baby

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>>4822370
explain harry potter lady then

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>>4822254
There's a joke about it in that 1999 movie Office Space. So it's common enough to make a joke about even in the US.

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>>4822116
she did confirm her sister became a vtuber but the timing is off for that to be her (sister)

[Anonymous No.]

Wanna come and commerate with the kiryu coco avatar?

https://vrcmods.com/item/8621

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>>4821544
Sounds like she's using a voice changer

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>>4822515
might just as well believe this

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>>4822370
the plurality of their fanbase are between 18-24. The second largest age group is even older. They're fascinatingly popular with older women it seems.

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>>4822533
you mean rowling? she was only cancelled semi recently and the kids who grew up with her books are on their twenties now

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>>4822254
No it especially happens in japan with senior members. When they want them to quit they just remove all their duties or give them bad ones.
If you fuck up, you basically just get put in a room to sit all day without being able to contribute or do real work.
>https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/17/business/global/layoffs-illegal-japan-workers-are-sent-to-the-boredom-room.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822533
They all grew up.

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>>4821796
Coco clarified in a stream that it was due to taxes that it was lower than expected

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>>4822554
I thought this rrat was killed way back.

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>>4822680
Man that would rule, I would just bring in my laptop and get paid to play videogames for 8 hours a day.

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>>4811135
Is there any particularly good member-only streams to check out before they're gone?

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>>4822891
check nyaa for rips

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>>4822832
same

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>>4822680
>https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/17/business/global/layoffs-illegal-japan-workers-are-sent-to-the-boredom-room.html
fucking jap boomers are worse than americas fucking hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821307
A zoomer can be as old as 24 as of 2021. Not quite a child really

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>>4822988
thanks bud

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>>4811135
Everyone expected something funny like a hololive talent fucking her bf on stream or something but turns out, it was the chinese, who have been hammering cover since the taiwan incident. Its going to sting when everyone in hololive is suddenly playing chink games after Coco's departure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823108
you can also check /t/ for the holo archive thread

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>>4823038
Being pressured into an early retirement at age 50 isn't the same as some 70 year old boomer that refuses to die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823112
chicken will do a genshin stream on July 2nd

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>>4820947
yep that's why Coco sounds so cheerful on her announcement video. She's just changing jobs to get a raise, like in tech. That Cover failed to pay her enough really comes across in the timbre of her voice.

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>>4811135
>The final yab happened
It really does feel like something quite final.
For me at least, I won't be following any vtubers after she retires. I might keep my subscription to her channel out of stubbornness? Spite? Solidarity? Love? I know that's just going to drag more vtuber recommendations into my feed, even if I don't want them, but I don't think I could ever remove that subscription.

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>>4822749
Does Coco pay double taxes in both the US and Japan? Does she/did she ever have US citizenship? Her mom went back to the US to live with her grandfather because he had developed dementia so it makes me think Coco is a dual citizen who must pay taxes to the US Govt even if she no longer lives there. Also, this only applies if you're over 22 years old.

[Anonymous No.]

All of her videos will be deleted after she graduates.

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>>4811898
Yeah this I think everyone at this point realizes china is literally the source of every problem the world faces those fucks would be better as ash.

[Anonymous No.]

Seeing how many anons have a parasocial relationship with a streamer was eye-opening.

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>>4824073
nice reading comprehension retard

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>>4820947
Hoping is the most you pinks can ever do.

[Anonymous No.]

She will be gone forever because of China...

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>>4823990
idk. if she's jp citizen then she would have to renounce us citizenship. however, the us (apparently) tends to not recognize it in that particular situation but i would think if you were getting taxed you would tell them to fuck off

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>>4823397
I wouldn't say she sounds cheery. It seemed like she had to mute the mic a few times during the announcement (guessing she got choked up). But her giving an announcement weeks in advance of a goodbye stream is a good sign the departure was mostly mutual. She'll be fine. Sure she's already got a few options lined up for the next career move, if she hasn't finalized it already. Doubtful it will be working as a Vtuber -- at least not for a while. NCAs can be a real bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823332
Ina will play Arknights July 2nd and I'll never look at Hololive ever again.
>>4824073
I can barely understand Nip and even I caught that the account will remain live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823397
>you can't be sad about things you knew in advance
yeah, that's why all those cancer kid parents are always so cheerful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4814399
>>4814399
Its not just about supachats and merch sales. Ever since the CN meltdown, Hololive has basically been excluded in every other vtuber collab concert, vtuber collab event, Hololive is missing out on lucrative China gacha collabs like Azur Lane, GFL and the like.

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>>4824276
I watched an expat American bring this up and he said the Japanese govt will tell you to renounce it but if you do nothing, they can't really force you to so there are a good number of Americans running around Japan with dual citizenship. I wonder if Calli renounced hers?
You can tell the IRS to fuck off but they definitely pay special attention to anyone making any decent amount of money overseas. Audits have to be normal for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823847
>I might just keep donating to the company that kicked her out.
Good plan dumbass. Donate to her other channel if you want to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824571
This just means China is too powerful and influential. They must be taken down.
Death to the CCP.

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>>4824599
>>4824276
You don't get dual taxed, however. You are taxed in the country you make your money. The situations in which both countries double dip are extremely few.

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>>4824599
>they can't really force you to so there are a good number of Americans running around Japan with dual citizenship.
doesn't surprise me
>You can tell the IRS to fuck off but they definitely pay special attention to anyone making any decent amount of money overseas. >Audits have to be normal for them.
i don't see how they would know if you 1. live overseas 2. renounced citizen ship 3. told them to fuck off

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>>4824599
I read a story about the exact opposite happening and an American guy getting fucked over for not ever renouncing it. The Japanese govt revoked his Japanese citizenship for faililng to live up to the agreement and took away his permanent resident status as well. Who knows though, that's an anecdote.

Anyway, I really doubt Calli is considering abandoning her American citizenship. You've gotta have like 10 years in Japan to really be in the right mind to do something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824672
I cringed seeing all those memberships that will be cancelled at the end of the month.
Give the money to https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9ruVYPv7yJmV0Rh0NKA-Lw you fucking retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824795
America is one of them, from what I understand.