/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Homobeggar-sama..... please...... buy..... merch......

[Anonymous No.]

>Source: My ass

[Anonymous No.]

But Calli collabed with males way more than Kronii

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>>48342654
>Calli
Mori has music buff and female simps.

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>Calli and Bae are 1st and 3rd respectively, higher then the unicorn friendly Fauna
>They're both people who've openly collabed with homos before
This strikes me more as it doesn't matter as long as you don't shit on your fans like Kronii did.

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>>48342935
Basically yeah the issues with Kronii go far deeper than "nooo she collabs with males", it's more like she's proven to just not give a shit about her fans and will dunk on them condescendingly if she feels like. Granted Mori's done that too but Mori also streams like several times more than Kronii and has been on a charm offensive lately so has been trying to patch things up.

Also it was the Connor thing that really messed with her reputation more than the homos, and she hasn't really mentioned him since (I think, by management forbidding her actually) so yeah it's recovered but I kinda don't think it was by Mori's own accord but rather Holo management deciding she's worth too much and it's too much a brand risk to just let her run her mouth and be an unlikable bitch too much. Kronii it seems was not guided similarly.

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>>48341895
Source of the data?

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>>48341895
so you just made these numbers up or something?

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>>48341895
are these actually correct numbers? seems too good to be true...

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>>48341895
Mori gonna get a huge bump, they fixed her shipping rates (went from $130 down to $30 or so). Kronii is still fucked.

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>>48343458
>>48343466
Source is from the quarterly earnings call. Cover is a publicly traded company now. Maybe.

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>>48343659
If that's true, link it.

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>>48342935
Bae is openly a whore and a dumb zoomer so her fans are into it.
Mori has more bro vibes, always had. Literally one of her memes is "dad".
Those are not debuffed by males as much as a girl like Kronii who had very little appeal besides "look at my tits, I have a deep voice, now cum".

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>>48343458
>>48343466
>>48343596
>literal word doc/excel graph made in 3 mins
>YO IS THIS REAL SAUCE????
what country are fags from

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>>48342654
Mori has music

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>>48343715
holy retard....

[Anonymous No.]

i will believe all of this uncritically

[Anonymous No.]

Source in picrel.

[Anonymous No.]

hacked into cover's database and found this bad boy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48344568
legit

[Anonymous No.]

it's from /#/ but they didn't archive the shop's website so there's no real proof

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>>48341895
And you know it's true because nobody lies on the internet

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>>48341895
Mori has always been Mad Money Mori and IRyS is the biggest paypig attractor of the non-Myth Holos. This ranking shouldn't be surprising. Both Mori and IRyS are paypig powerhouses.

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>>48342654
She is unironically 'inoculated' because her fanbase is diehards who are there for her music and don't care about the males. Kronii has no consistent stream record, Kronii constantly has weird stuff happen to her where she won't stream for a month and then comes back. Kronii could get away with it because she had the second largest CCV after Gura in 2021 but that's all gone down the drain. It's not clear what her niche is because she doesn't lean into her 'talent' (doing funny voices/voice acting). To a small degree she does lean into the "chick who is too cool and depressed for this lame world" stuff, but it's not clear how much of that is personal taste and how much of that is actively cultivating an audience of doomers and people who would be goths if goths were still a thing.

[Anonymous No.]

Nice chart anon. Now show me the official one.

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>>48342654
Mori's CCV was like 40k when she debuted, it's like 3k now.

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>>48343713
Bae is 'real', a female girl overflowing with energy and estrogen who watches homos, collabs with homos, plays otome games and whatever. Mori is 'real', a negro in nippon. Kronii is fake, she's one of those types in their 20s/30s that's down on themselves a lot but then their life isn't actually all that bad and they're only 'fashionably' sad, but can't actually relate to depressed zoomer doomer coomers in her audience because she doesn't know their weird struggles beyond drinking subway sandwiches as smoothies.

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>>48343713
The deep voice is part of the appeal but there's a lot more to her than that, or people wouldn't be begging her to play Minecraft

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>>48343458
>>48343466
>>48343596
The Hololive shop had shit security and you could get the numbers of how many of each item sold. At the time anons were posting how to go look at it yourself and quite as unusual as it is for /#/ they weren't making shit up. Maybe someone thought to archive it, but Cover did eventually manage to lock it back down so there may not be any proof remaining. Couple of things to note about Council's merch sales numbers, nobody outside of Cover or geekjack knows how much sold through geekjack, Kronii didn't do any limited sets which even without a data leak you'll know if they sold out, Kronii's merch shipping costs were absolutely ludicrous. I'd say the above are mostly why Kronii got absolutely destroyed in sales.

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>>48342935
Anyone who isn't a retard knows this. Fubuki collabed with males. So did Suisei. So did dozens of Holos. But you never, ever, fucking shit on your fanbase the ways Kronii did. You don't lie to them and then do an about face. Fucking Rushia torpedoed her Hololive career cause it was preferable to treating her fans like dirt, she was so desperate to prove she wasn't fucking that Ayylmao that she broke NDA.

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>>48341895
I'll buy more merch if the shipping cost isn't double the price, not just for Kronii

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>>48341895
She's doing just fine. But you wouldn't know that, because you're a loser who does nothing but give free advertisement. Keep it going. :)

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>>48346475
>Cover did eventually manage to lock it up
Because retards like you ratted out leading to cover intern policing the thread until he got the source

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>>48346919
Kronies hate advertising their oshi though, they want her all to themselves. Look at how they sperg at gifted memberships, they're obsessed with being read by her and making it to her spreadsheet.

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>>48343243
>Kronii it seems was not guided similarly.
You forgot the infamous tweet from management that more or less asking people not to shit on Kronii?

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>>48346964
I emailed it to them

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>>48347240
Did they email you back?

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>>48346617
There are 35 jp girls dozens imply 24 at minimum. I’m sure you can name the 24

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>>48347240
No you fucking didn't, someone gave out the source and it got fixed very quick

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>>48341895
great chart very professional

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>>48346919
>t. Retard who never watch stream like every homobeggar
Sure buddy her manager keep nagging her to sell her merch are indication of "doing fine".

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>>48346617
>Fucking Rushia torpedoed her Hololive career cause it was preferable to treating her fans like dirt
Rushia was a retard who tried to cleverly clear her own personal reputation by posing as an anonymous source for dramatuber AFTER the fact both the company she worked for said they don't care and fans had massive outcry of support saving they don't care either. And what it got her was getting fired so now her fans can't even watch her anymore
Quite possibly the worst example you could've picked

[Anonymous No.]

Cucks are poorfags if you think about it

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>>48341895
Kronii.....

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>>48342935
Fauna doesn't shill her merch as much as Mori and Bae do.

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>>48342935
>>48343713
False, Bae is constantly lovebombing her fans with projects and releases, she generally cares for them a lot so this is them appreciating her
I don't watch Mori but I do see her having some of the most workload in EN which means her fans are probably the same
Kronii doesn't put as much effort in her Hololive gig as the other two, that's all there is to it. It doesn't have much to do with males

[Anonymous No.]

The only reason IRyS is as high as she is is because she had merch based around oppai mousepads which always sell more than normal sets. I have absolutely no doubts that she would sell less than Baelz if it wasn't coomer merch

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>>48341895
>homo this, homo
stop thinking about cocks for a second.
HOW THE FUCK IS THIS ACCEPTABLE?
Mori also has a fat plush and the shipping has been corrected to thirty dollars. They had more than a month to correct this and they havent, the sale ends in like 3 days too

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>>48349955
Wait, does Kronii goes to give you the pillow personally or what? 134 shipping cost wtf

[Anonymous No.]

When were these statistics?
I can't believe how well connor simp's merch is selling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48349955
A gachi would buy those instantly, unfortunate western faggot hate people who support their content. It like having a fanbase consist of loud minority with no money doesn't make for a good business right.

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>>48350896
>134$ is okay
shalom

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>>48345573
>when she debuted
I can't believe she got more viewers during the honeymoon period and vtuber boom 3 years ago!

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>>48341895
don't even care if fake or not but great, still waiting for that graduation stream

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna's numbers are weeks out of date. It got patched before hers finished so we don't know the final numbers, but she was selling at a similar pace to Irys.
I don't remember seeing Calli's but since her merch run hasn't finished yet those numbers are probably fake

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>>48341895
>Another post with made up numbers
>Anons still buy the bait
This board is full of retards

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>>48342654
Mori hasn't really insulted her fans. Her worst offence came from the whole condom supah implying deadbeats were cucks but she was able to fall back on being "drunk" as an excuse for her behavior at that moment. Kronii actively implied her fans were incels who haven't had female friends and even had management try to shield her for going back on the promises she made.

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>>48347175
That tweet had a double meaning and meant each member lives and dies on their own hill by making it crystal clear Kronii was acting alone and her antics had nothing to do with either management or the other members.

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>>48351424
She never made any promise. And she's right about unicorns.

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>>48351424
>Kronii actively implied her fans were incels who haven't had female friends
You chucklefucks always love leaving out the part where that was a direct question to not her fans at large, but to the people who were sending her supas saying she was going out with the blue man in her stream following that collab. If you feel burned by this still, that's 100% on you.

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>>48351962
>She never made any promise
Yeah that's why Kronii actually posted about how she "changed her mind" and was just gonna do as she pleased right?

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>>48347031
>Look at how they sperg at gifted memberships
As a Kronie, it's not so much as sperging about memberships being gifted in general.

The annoyance with it lately is that two people on one of the discords are just flooding her with memberships lately because it's part-pissing contest between the two, and part getting a reaction out of Kronii ever since she started acknowledging gift subs during supa reading since she thanks each gift instance instead of the gifters once initially. Basically it's just become a bullying tactic because they'll just go back and forth towards the end of her streams so she'll read the both of them a bunch even when she's trying to finish (one of them does it with Colombian pesos, so Kronii's getting massively ripped off right there because it's almost ARS tier).

It's also genuinely become disruptive lately because it's started a sub-culture of people spamming emotes whenever someone gifts to the point where chat becomes unusable and ESL people in chat thanking "oilers" which has never been a thing prior to about a few weeks ago.

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>>48351381
Mods allowing the existence of /#/ and /#/ posters has always been a mistake.

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Isn't Kronii's merchandise selling like dog shit because she's regularly gone back and forth on how she treats her fanbase as well as being a person with a very inconsistent stream schedule who barely streams and when she does she only plays garbage indie games nobody has ever heard of?

Kronii's #1 trait that people like is her voice. But that's clearly not enough to sell her shit.

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>>48353895
No, it's because of how fucking awful the shipping is on the big ticket item in the set and that she wasn't in a position to market it for the first 2 weeks after her birthday stream which is when the bulk of the initial purchases happen.

You could argue that maybe if she did a limited set run like the other girls have so far she'd have at least a certain number of people who would bite the bullet for that alone, but that's about it. Not to mention you still have plenty of people who watch her play indies so it's not the poison you think it is for her.

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>>48353087
As a former Kronie, look at the people Infinity fucking hates and spergs out about.

>Kronii's mods, probably some of whom are her actual friends
>Kronii's clippers, Nerrev, who brings more attention to Kronii and helps bring new fans into the fold
>The said new fans who are brought into the fold
>People who gift memberships
>The people who get gifted memberships
>Any Kronie that stands out at all like being read in chat, sending an SC, talking or being retweeted by her on Twitter, people who meet her at cons like Tate Aniki

Any fucking person who gets close to Kronii or reduces your chances of being on the spreadsheet is hated. You call all us who left the parasocial fucks, but you're just as bad, only you're in denial. And I know because she used to read me a lot, and it was a great feeling to be picked out of a crowd of thousands. But this cope that, "Oh poor Kronii is losing money from gifted memberships" is bullshit. Not all of them are with monopoly money. And in the end more exposure is good for your Holo. But Infinity doesn't care about that. They want her audience to be as small as possible so there is more of a chance of them being read.

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>>48349955
>Muh shipping price
If people care enough, they will try to use reshipping service
They don't charge crazy price for the shipping
Unfortunately, her current audiences don't care enough

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>>48354183
infinity is more about the fans and namefagging than kronii, i feel bad for her and anyone new that is looking /here/ for like minded people

[Anonymous No.]

I'm gonna saviourfag Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>48353895
Yes
>>48354140
There have been plenty of Holos who have sold full runs of merch much fucking worse than Kronii's. The "acrylic stands" joke isn't a meme, it's what JP had for a good long while before they blew up and got popular. The fans she threw away are the same type of people who would buy merch no matter how shitty it is.

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>>48354279
You're delusional if you think Reddit, Twitter, or any of the fancords are different. The majority of Infinity is already on those platforms anyways. This is just the fanbase that Kronii has cultivated. She has nobody to blame but herself. Same goes for her actions. Although Infinity would tell you it's all the fault of pink woman Mori and that Kronii is a poor hostage who can't make her own choices.

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>>48354454
The funniest thing was how scared the fancord was about disciplining Gabe cause he was one of Kronii’s favorites.

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>>48354543
>the fancord
Which one? Clock Tower? The Reddit one? The Infinity one? The Twitter one that split off for ERP and grooming? Another one? Gabe was always a piece of shit schizo. But he also thrived in an environment that Kronii allowed and encouraged. >>48353087 is complaining about people spamming emotes for gifts. But Kronii allows and encourages it, the same way she allowed and encouraged Yubi Pucker and others to spam kiss and other ERP in chat.

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>>48354454
nono, never implied they're different... but /vt/ generals are at least somewhat different to those places usually

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>>48354678
I can't speak for all of the generals, but Infinity at least is nothing more than a place for namefags and other members of the Discords to bitch about each other or Kronii without fear of reprisal or being found out. There's zero difference.

[Anonymous No.]

Not mine but someone did a writeup of the Kronii situation.

First of all, when people ask "What did Kronii do?" there will always be a bunch of trolls eager to jump in with responses like "SHE COLLABED WITH MEN" "SHE SAID UNFORTUNATELY IDOL CULTURE IS A THING" and "SHE PROMISED TO STOP COLLABING WITH MEN AND THEN DIDN'T." These answers are all wrong and everyone who posts them is a faggot. It doesn't even matter why they post them. Some of them are trolls just trying to stir the shit. Some of them honestly think that's what happened because they didn't follow Kronii and just listened to whatever troll post or dramatuber vid told them. Some are actual Kronies trying to make the Kronies that left look like unreasonable schizos. Whatever the case, every single answer that is along those three lines is wrong and can be discarded immediately.

What actually happened with Kronii was a little more complicated. Basically she first attempted to understand where her fans were coming from, and then abruptly did an about face and sided with the people calling them incels. It was a betrayal of trust on the deepest level, and whether or not she meant it this way is irrelevant, the effect was the same.

Basically Kronii did not have a lot of things going for her as a streamer early on. She had the Wada model and a nice voice. But she wasn't great at zatsudan, she wasn't great at games, and she wasn't great at singing, she also did karaoke pretty rarely. Which is fine, part of the joy of the Hololive experience is watching your streamer develop over time. Thus people had to find something else to latch onto and they did so by becoming parasocial with her. This wasn't helped by her choosing to watch a lot of "Gosling" movies in member streams like The Truman Show, and of course Ryan Gosling himself in Blade Runner and La La Land.

The male collab thing was not well received by this portion of the fanbase and they made their discontent known through long and lengthy posts in her community, trying to explain themselves as best they could. Whether they were CGDCTfags or just plain unicorns, or people who didn't like the drama that male collabs inevitably bring, they spelled out their grievances, for the most part as composed as they could be. I'd say the only person that came off close to being a unicorn was Aliaga Ayin's post and even that wasn't that deranged. Some of these posts were from long time members, people Kronii would actually talk and react to in chat, Kronies refer to such people as being on the "spreadsheet' which is an alleged list of her "favorite" members. The most notorious of this would be Gabe who was mentally ill and attention seeking from Day 1, but even his post wasn't that crazy.

The point is during a special unarchived member stream, Kronii took the time to read these posts, out loud on stream, in an effort to better understand what these people were unhappy about. And for a brief moment, that won her a lot of love and respect. While Reddit and Twitter were calling these people unicorns and incels, she actually took the time to read them, addressed their concerns, and even defended them, saying she didn't want people attacking her fans. She stated clearly, that while she would NOT stop doing male collabs, she would not initiate them, probably not tweet to them that much, and she would not stream her POV to them. This satisfied all but the most die hard unicorns, and again, even Aliaga Ayin was pacified. The point is, the Kronies that felt this way felt HEARD. She didn't just dismiss them out of hand, like others were doing.

Then less than a day later, she did this tweet, disappeared for a week, and when she came back said she would collab with whoever, whenever, and that was the end of it. There was no further discussion and at the same time the Hololive account made that proclamation against harassing the talents.

So in the eyes of the Kronies who felt betrayed, she had gone from understanding them and defending them, to siding with the people who mocked them and disparaged them, while running and hiding behind the skirts of the company from the inevitable backlash she had to know would follow. Honestly it would have been better if she had never done that unarchived members stream. She gave them hope that she understood, if not fully agreeing with where they came from, and then dashed it violently. That's why they hate her so much. It's not as simple as "male collabs" or "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" it is a real long standing feeling of betrayal and loss from people who watched her for over a year and thought they had a deeper understanding of their oshi and she them.

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>>48354724
im a tako that visits holo generals regulary - /wah/ is VERY different to tentacult discord - which i left - and most of the chubbas generals are pretty okay ... they each have their own issues i suppose but nobody namefags quite like /infinity/

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>>48354543
Kronies have successfully tricked people into thinking Kronii hates him cause he was once banned but that was probably due to one of her mods doing it on their own without telling her because he was being obnoxious(more than usual), cause I remember like after a few days Gabe or one of his fans asks Kronii to unban him since he hasn't been posting in her chat for a while now. Kronii then actually went to check and said that he wasn't banned.

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>>48345573
Is this part of the new script? I've seen this exact post with the same numbers several times. Mori seems to be averaging 5-8k now that she started streaming in NA evening time regularlly instead of in the middle of the night. She has always been right in the middle in Myth for CCV which that seems to still be true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48354543
qrd on this Gabe guy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48354887
Up until he went full anti, Gabe was easily one of the most loved Kronies. She read him every fucking stream, would say his name out loud several times when replying to him, and spurred on his antics and bullshit. Gabe is the type of fan Kronii deserves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48349417
Mori was actively telling her fans to NOT buy her birthday merch and buy her blu-ray instead because it will upgrade her next sololive. All this graph shows is that if you need to have limited merch to sell well, something Kronii didn't have. Thats also ignoring the insane shipping costs on Kronii's merch. I think it was well over $100 just for shipping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48355087
>>48349955
this just for the neck pillow

[Anonymous No.]

I'm tired of taking homo dick up my cock somebody give me a new oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>48355221
Yeah, her merch got a double whammy between the shipping cost and no limited merch. The breakdown I saw before had limited merch like 70% of the total sales for everyone else.

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>>48355334
People will pay fucking 35 bucks for a hotdog that someone threw a piece of paper on that has HoloX printed on it. If Kronii hadn't spit on all her fans, there would be no shortage of people paying outrageous costs for shipping. Hoshiyomi regularly buy Suisei's albums that cost double in shipping and then also have fucking extra costs since they usually use a inbetween service to get it from a store with preorder bonuses.

If people wanted to support Kronii they would. Gabe fucking sold family land that wasn't even his so he could spend 1 minute talking with her at the meet and greet.

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>>48355454
>sold family land that wasn't even his
n-nani?
qrd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48355454
hope gabe necks himself, he's a liability to the gene pool

[Anonymous No.]

>>48355454
Ok then if price isn't an issue, not having limited merch sure as hell is. People REALLY want signed stuff every single EN's limited merch sells out basically instantly and is a majority of merch sales.

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>>48341895
Damn they really just left Kronii specifically to die out there. Mori being so high up just makes it look even more embarrassing. But at least that one tweet about collabing wth whoever she wants got a lot of engagement, right? Worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48355657
>People REALLY want signed stuff every single EN's limited merch sells out basically instantly
Yes
>and is a majority of merch sales.
Fuck no

[Anonymous No.]

>>48355657
Price is an issue, he is talking out his ass.
But the real reason sales were low is because the merch sucked and Kronii had no interest in shilling it seriously.
The fucking burger box was a complete atrocity considering the background.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48347723
Do you think maybe her state is not very connected to the sales of one set of shitty merch she feels somewhere between confusion and hate for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48356010
shes always been bad at shilling things, irys did a good job with her daki that one time they switched

[Anonymous No.]

>>48355802
>and is a majority of merch sales.
Yes it is. Lets use Fauna as the example. Limited merch is always 1000 units. Judging by that graph it looks like Fauna has ~175k in sales. Her limited merch is 15,510 JPY so 15,510,000 JPY in sales which converts to $113785 so 65% of her sales.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48349549
>>48349549

People can hate on Bae for being "annoying" or "boring" or a "malecollaber" but you cannot deny the fact she's hardworking and really cares for her audience. Kiara is similar.

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>>48354777
whoever wrote that writeup never saw that member stream or at least was looking at it with rose tinted glasses. She was very combative and aggressive not to the shippers but her own parasocial unicorns, she read some article about how parsocialism is bad and how she never saw herself as GFE and "it wasn't her brand" and while she's not wrong about the first two her brand for her entire first year didn't so much as even mention males. He says that Kronii read those posts to understand the concerns but with everything else in that stream it's obvious she did know and to pretend otherwise is disingenuous. He says that Kronii made promises to her fans but in the context of the stream she was giving reasons as to why she "wasn't a whore" she said those exact words. All in all the whole stream was her dunking on unicorns because COLLABING WITH MALES WAS THE ISSUE at least in her eyes.

She was talking shit about her manager that stream also and probably got stealth suspended just like Towa, when she came back she just doubled down publically on a stance she always had.

Personally I think she was using the male collabs as a filter to get rid of those unicorns because her mods will snipe any mention of them, because of that I think the rrat that she's misandrist is still true, people say her RM did streams with men before but in my reps I haven't found any evidence of that.

>>48354887
also this guy is also full of shit, Gabe got banned during the psychology stream people have photos of "user was banned for this post", Kronii was also full of shit for lying. and what about that other guy who SC the other girls about Kronii saying he was banned, there's no evidence for it as far as I know. So there seems to be a concerted effort on the part of her mods to ban those who criticize male collabs and then play stupid when asked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48349921
I only bought her slipper.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think there's any worse way Kronii could have handled the male collab situation
Even telling her most loyal fans to fuck off from the start would have been less damaging than pretending to be understanding, only to immediately stab them in the back

[Anonymous No.]

>>48349921
You guys really love to cry, don't you?
Only reason whori is this high is because you all are cucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>48341895
I still like Kronii, but she really only has herself to blame for this. Not even talking about the male collab shit, but literally just fucking stream more consistently

[Anonymous No.]

>>48355657
EN didn't have signed merch last year except for what, Gura? She was the first one to do this, then Mumei and onward.
Never a problem with EN selling unsigned merch before this but suddenly kroni's stuff sells badly so delusional clockfags cope by screeching
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S ONLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIMITED REEEEEEEEEE
pathetic.

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>>48349955
Kroniifags are so useless kek
>https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-order-something-online-from-Japan-and-get-it-shipped-to-the-USA
Now start buying and make less excuses
Won't be funny if they extend the merch sales again

[Anonymous No.]

>>48358790
The icing on the cake was her running crying to management to get them to tell the big bad meanies off. This was utterly pathetic. Not even the worst parts of Mori's lean arc did she need management to run interference for her due to her own self-induced mess. She didn't even have the courage or sense to just stream and say
>actually guys, look I've changed my mind
it had to be a mandate from management informing the kronies of their cuckery.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48354777
The situation is even MORE complex than that and I'm tired of trying to explain it.
Just an example but one or two months before the whole homo meltdown there was some minor drama regarding an offcollab. Kronii wrote a long membership post aknowledging she's shit at communiting and will try her hardest to improve. On top of that you have her inconsistent streaming habits and the feeling she never really liked Hololive's culture that much. All of that culminated in the homo collabs arc.
>>48360111
Also her manager suggested to just keep quiet and ignore the situation, just for Kronii to sperg out under a fucking clipper VOD and making things even worse. Kronii then proceeded to throw said manager under the bus and blame him/her for not motivating her enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48341895
>OP outright lies and makesup a chart
>because he hates Kronii for some strange insecure incels reasons
>at 100+ posts

Come on. Dont fall for some terrible beta male attenion whoring bait like this /vt/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48360216
shut up hole

[Anonymous No.]

>>48341895
lol how much is mori self inflated numbers,
typical white bitch girl move self bought merch to "show" sales.
you know alot of failing artist do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>48360216
You should spend more time watching streams and supporting your homos instead of calling actual fans incels sister. You're a loud minority who is killing western vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48355711
when i last watch her she got a new home, wonder if she now earning enough that pays the bills or she gotta do some onlyfans
can't wait for her downfall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48360216
Calli's are made up, and Fauna's aren't her final numbers, but the other three are likely somewhat accurate. Although it doesn't include geekjack sales

[Anonymous No.]

>>48342935
>unicorn friendly Fauna
STFU.
She's gachikoi friendly not unicorn friendly get your terms right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48361365
So you would be ok if a male collab happens?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48343243
mori is cancer , spreading her retarded teachings to all the rest.
and kronii became mori 2.0
now we have to deal with 2 shitbags

[Anonymous No.]

>>48360186
Well improve the copypaste then, i just found from other kronie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48361731
No
Just stop using the retarded joke term unicorn as if it is an actual sizeable demographic of some sort.
No one is actually a unicorn, that term has always been used pejoratively and mockingly to make fun of a very specific group of annoying “fans” since the beginning of its usage. Being opposed to male collabs does not make one a unicorn btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>48360216
>because he hates Kronii for some strange insecure incels reasons
Why didn't you buy her merch homobeggar?
This is your fault you said you'd support her more if she kept collabing with males and here we are

[Anonymous No.]

>>48349955
Jesus wtf?! Have this been fix yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48360216
>Obviously a bait thread
>Still comes here to post
Come on. Don't waste your time for the beta males, watch streams and buy merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48361731
How did unicorn get so diluted?
It used to mean that if the vtuber wasn't a virgin than unicorns hated her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48354818
/Infinity/ hold no fucking responsibility over the actions of their shitty fanbase and manipulative oshi. Nothing is every Kronii's fault. Nothing is every kronie's fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48362314
The shipping is ridiculous

[Anonymous No.]

>>48357689
You need meds and female friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>48350896
On what planet? Start charging over 100 dollars on shipping and jp fags will buy a lot less merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48350896
Maybe a DHL gachi would

[Anonymous No.]

>>48354183
Unfathomably based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48354183
kronies are worse than deadcucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>48348219
Indeed, she fell right off the internet after that and was never heard from again. Sadge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48365938
Can't believe her simps believe her lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>48341895
Having fun, clucks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48365938
too bad her VWhorejo model is crap compared to what she had... getting the scraps kson had intented for kanata.. rip

[Anonymous No.]

>>48341895
EN3 when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48365293
Mori is worse than Kronii
Kronies are worse than deadbeats
Balance
>>48367965
After Tempu5

[Anonymous No.]

>>48354215
>if consoomers cared enough, they would find roundabout ways to consoom instead of speaking with their wallets and not buying the badly served product
shalom adonai

[Anonymous No.]

>>48365938
>Sadge
Go back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48341895
I really can't fault for her fans for not buying the burger box, especially with the highway robbery shipping fees. Mori has shitty merch but mostly marketed to females and Bae always has amazing merch, so if anything this chart is proof of Fauna's gachikoi/brand power because her merch is slightly less shit than Kronii's.
This chart has too many factors to just pin it on male collabs because Mori and Bae are there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48341895
Bae is constantly collabing with males so your post is dumb and you're lame. Haha, lame-O. Bet ur balding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48349955
This shit hasn't been fixed yet? I remember how with DHL it was a flat fee of around 30 bucks no matter what you ordered. Have they addressed this at all recently?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48363802
So you lied

[Anonymous No.]

>>48370790
about what

[Anonymous No.]

>>48356493
Bae isn't just a malecollaber she's boycrazy, any one of her fans could cosplay as roberto from homostars to try and win her heart. She's not cucking you, she's cucking with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48341895
This is what sex do to you

[Anonymous No.]

>>48341895
>Calli number 1
>Bae above Fauna
Unicorn-sama... why... have you...abandoned us...

[Anonymous No.]

>>48341895
every time I look at her I feel disgust, why would I buy her merch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48342259
I'm not going to spoonfeed you simple facts everyone knows newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48342654
Yeah right. You got a source for that? Thought not dumbass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48357689
You are absolutely full of shit. She wasn't combative or aggressive, except to the outsiders who were attacking her fans. She was trying to understand where her fans were coming from and what their concerns were. She read all the posts that her members made, the ones the twitter brigade dismissed as crazy and written by incels. Collabing with males WAS the issue until that stream. Afterwards, the issue was the trust of her fans that she tore up and destroyed.

>Le Kronii hates men rrat again

You could at least try. She certainly loves Vesper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48375195
>any one of her fans
>WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ME?
jesus dude, how autistic do you have to be to flip out over shit that isn't even referencing you

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii's fanbase are the biggest normies around, they literally spammed gifted memberships just so people wouldn't have a "parasocial" members only ASMR with Kronii, but don't buy merch to make a point about not being too crazy over Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>48377676
Infinity would tell you those aren't real Kronies and are just doing it to "own the parasocial fucks". They seethe over gifted memberships. Although they do have somewhat of a point because Kronii definitely got invaded by normalfags after September, there was a crusade by them to purge her fanbase of the "incels".

Also
>normies
We call them normalfags here outsider-kun.

[Anonymous No.]

https://gofile.io/d/DwhLtO
Here is the member stream in question for anyone who is curious. I doubt half the people arguing have even seen it, it's only about 2 hours long. This is the closest she ever was to her fans, she took the time to read the comments on the community post, and tried to assuage her members worries. After this stream, Kronies were the happiest they'd ever been and felt the closest to her they'd ever been.

Then she crushed them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48366389
>Hooman calling other cucks
Irony

[Anonymous No.]

>>48379221
Explain? AFAIK mooms hasn't betrayed her fans?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48378908
And then those "fans" freaked out over one (1) twitter reply, lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>48380545
That and the immediate about face, end of discussion, hiding behind Cover's skirts with the announcement, and spamming of Vesper collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48380123
Council debut week archives

[Anonymous No.]

>>48380762
If you harass talent that belongs to a corporation don't be surprised that the corporation steps up to handle it

[Anonymous No.]

cuck sisters.... it's over

[Anonymous No.]

>>48380863
The only people who were harassing her were homobeggar scum telling her to not give into the "incel crowd".

[Anonymous No.]

>>48382209
That’s not the ones she had to ban from her chat. Try again

[Anonymous No.]

>>48382272
post tits

[Anonymous No.]

>>48382272
Oh you mean all the sockpuppet accounts who sent troll SCs in monopoly money? The ones who weren't even members? Yeah truly long time Kronies those ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48382382
Like Gabe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48350896
>A gachi would buy those instantly
I dont think that makes those prices acceptable

[Anonymous No.]

>>48382499
>Let me pick the one schizo who nobody liked to begin with as the prime example of Kronii's community.
There's only one thing the entire Kronie community, both former and current, can agree to and that's that Gabe was always an attention whore who didn't care about Kronii, just about becoming an e-celeb. That and maybe that Rice is a faggot who sends cringe SCs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48382209
>we dindu nuffin

[Anonymous No.]

>>48382650
>Kronii dindu nuffin
>She's a good girl
>She wants to try, look how many times she says she wants to do better
>Nevermind the fact that she never gets better she just says she feels bad about not being better
>BTW all the homocollabs are Mori's fault

[Anonymous No.]

>>48345432
>doomers/goths
>Kronii
Does she actually have the slightest connection with that demographic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48354183
>actually, chat is a competition to get noticed by the vtuber and not a place to talk about stream
Hang yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>48383836
Yes that is exactly how Kronies feel and the type of community Kronii has fostered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48384020
>/vt/ kronies are evil because they *shuffles deck* hate atttention whores
Hang yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>48370510
>constantly

[Anonymous No.]

>>48384113
Infinity enables most of the attention whores. Fuck that, Infinity IS most of the attention whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48384327
>/inf/ is the one encouraging discordronies who might as well be soft antis at this point since all they do lately is shit up her streams
Sure thing, buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48384327
the small taste of anti to become a full anti
praise be the light to help kronii's graduation

[Anonymous No.]

>>48386203
One of the first Kronii discords was a writefag one. And most, if not all of the spreadsheet fags are on a Discord or two. And they all post on fucking 4chan, this isn't some sekrit club nobody knows about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48343713
>look at my tits, I have a deep voice, now cum
If she actually said that she would be #1. Instead she hates her tits and is a tranny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48341895
Don't watch Fauna that much but if she shilled her stuff she would easily beat everyone on the list on merch sales.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48387321
Kek sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>48387321
Yeah ok sure lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>48387718
>>48387912
thanks for agreeing anons

[Anonymous No.]

>shuffles random papers around on my desk
Hang yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>48387031
There are a lot of fans who join fan discords but don't actually interact on it, or just use it to keep an eye on things like big projects like the yearbook that was done for her latest birthday.

"Discordronies" are typically referring to the people who try to fashion themselves as micro-celebs on her fancords and are a whole different breed of dumb; one of the guys on there who has been gifting subs to her a lot lately admitted that he did it initially for a while because a) it's fucking cheap since he's using Colombia Pesos which is closer to ARS than USD right now, and b) he wanted to spite her because members voted to keep certain content within members and he effectively wanted to make it more "public" in a sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48388617
Yeah I know but that one guy isn't responsible for all the gift memberships and Kronies have been bitching about gifted memberships long before he started. And /inf/ is a shithole to begin with, it might as well be Discord chat with the way they all call each other out by name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48343713
>"look at my tits, I have a deep voice, now cum".
Don't remind me of old Okayu...

[Anonymous No.]

>>48389146
Don't you mean old Towa? I will never forgive the Japanese for what they made Towa do to her voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48387321
lol Mori was actively telling her fans to NOT buy her B-day merch and to buy her blu-ray instead. Her shipping was also fucked like Kronii's until a couple days ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48345432
Based based based

[Anonymous No.]

>>48388617
A TRUE CHAD

[Anonymous No.]

>>48387321
she's so uneventful, i'm surprised she sold as much. At least mori and irys constantly push out music and such to keep fans engaged. Pandering to unicorns really seem to have its perks if you want to keep your activities to minimum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48390537
Eh Fauna does the main thing that will give you success in streaming if you are handed a fanbase, She streams fairly often almost always at the same time. Hell Mori started doing that too for the last week and a half after streaming at ass times for 6 months and she regained like 2-3k viewers. Consistency at a reasonable time of day is always king.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48354183
>>48365293
all her good fans who wanted CGDCT left, we just wanted that warm fuzzy feeling of cute girls interacting with each other,now she's left with garbage woke fighters and faggot knights and homobeggers
good for her kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>48345432
>>48390446
Disagree, it's because Mori has pretty much been the same person since debut. If you liked her fine, if you didn't like her, you didn't watch her. Kronii presented a certain way up until Sept 2022, fags will argue about whether she did this on purpose or was just a poor victim of "parasocial fucks" but after Sept she did a heel turn and totally changed what people were expecting from her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48390659
it's like there's a simple proof of work right now in the ID market who's doing just that.
-kaela
but i dropped her when she did that faggot Wild Rift shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>REEEEEEEEEEEE MEN
>Oh wait MY NARRATIVE Mori is the best seller
>Fauna my GFE WIFE IS 2ND LAST NOOOOO
can you guys kill yourself already it'll be much easier than seething about males 24/7

[Anonymous No.]

>>48389407
I was never into Towa but now I went to take a look at her voice 3 years ago and damn... They killed her...

[Anonymous No.]

>>48366447
>getting the scraps kson had intented for kanata
Rushia made that Angel model by taking input from her fans during streams and from Tweets

[Anonymous No.]

You're free to hate your fans for twittards and clout. I'm free to not buy your merchandise. Got a problem? Ask your new "audience" for help. Maybe you can even convince the Sharts to promote you!

[Anonymous No.]

>>48348219
Holy shit, there is so much misinfo in this post.
Kore's stream happened before Cover's
>lol we don't care if our talents are in relationships or not
post. Furthermore, she didn't try to act as an anonymous source because the whole point was to provide hard evidence that she lived alone.
Her fans didn't say
>we don't care
It was moreso
>we support and love you, please come back
but there was still an understanding that it was an actual issue had she been cheating on her fans (she wasn't)
>her fans can't even watch her anymore
As if she isn't still streaming as both Mikeneko and Nazuna to this day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48391307
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>48389039
I won't deny there was some folks who seethed at the whole membership gifting thing initially because yes having a bunch of new people who could make membership streams less comfy was a concern. And that was proven somewhat warranted when one of her recent memberships had a bunch of gifted members homobeg.

There are plenty of people who do regularly do gifted memberships and don't try to make themselves out as cults of personalities like the handful of people who have been doing it lately. One of the primary dipshits in charge of the recent behavior spite-gifted a bunch of memberships in her fucking freechat of all places because they saw some people talking about how people doing what they're doing a bunch of small gifts back and forth between 2 people without even naming them in particular was obnoxious. The dude barely has a personality to start with because all of his supas can be classified as "obnoxious 'lol I totally roast you'" posts, and I think people don't call him out on it because he happens to be a fancord mod.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48391415
I still think you're trying to justify the parasocial seething the remaining Kronies do about anyone and everyone who catches her eye. There will always be people trying to make a name for themselves. But Kronies sperg out at anyone who gets read in chat more than once and then say they are better than all the people who left without a hint of irony.

You also contradict yourself, you say that fancords aren't a big part of the fanbase, and especially not here, but you also mention how people are scared to call out someone because they are a fancord mod. If everyone was truly detached, and only using 4chan as you said, nobody would give a fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48391930
There's maybe one guy on /inf/ who actually complains about people being read during streams, and I'm halfway convinced he does it as a larp at this point since no one bothers reacting to him anymore. Well that and people rolling their eyes at one of her gachis who has a terminal case of trying to be the first to supa her every stream and usually does so with the cringest shit imaginable.

Regarding the fancord bit, I don't think I ever said it wasn't a big part, I'm just saying going off of experience as a lurker in one of them that there are some people who have seemingly made their lives into being discord personalities and by that factor are far more active on it than a more casual user. You know, 10% of the people using 80% of the oxygen and all that. Plus it's generally considered common sense to not try and fight in someone's chat about something that's directly related to the stream at hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48392607
>not directly tied to the stream at hand

[Anonymous No.]

>>48341895
I read through, then skimmed, the rest of this trash thread because I was curious about an EN holo I never watch. My conclusion: I'm sure as shit glad I dropped her after her 12 Minutes stream snoozefest.
What a shitfest. Trainwreck streamer, horrendous "fans". Just a mess all around.
Wtf is wrong with all of you holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48392893
>all of you

[Anonymous No.]

God I love spreading misinformation on the internet

[Anonymous No.]

>>48370810
Supporting her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48392607
People shitting on Rice has been the case since he started doing that shit, that's not new and not what I'm talking about. You are severely underselling how much people care about being read during streams, even the people who get read still get annoyed with people who get read more than them or if they think the person isn't particularly deserving. I'm not even talking about (what I hope are) joke posts like STOP READING MUMEI (which I saw this week), but more the overall competitive nature of Kronies to be the one recognized by Kronii. Because she has nothing else. She's not particularly good at games, doesn't lean into the coomer angle, not really great at zatsudan, doesn't do endurance streams, doesn't stream a whole lot, doesn't sing a lot, isn't working on projects we see later, the majority of what she has was the parasocial aspect. People always post that Discord screenshot of Atlas but if we're being honest here, his attitude isn't unique to him or even to Discordfags. If you really want to separate Discordroniis from 4chanroniis (and I'm telling you there's virtually no difference and the Kronies that are ONLY on 4chan are few) then you could also say there are some people who have seemingly made their lives into being 4chan personalities. Any thread people will be talking about Name or some other fag. Kronies are jealous and parasocial and the smart ones left already. The ones in denial stayed.

More importantly :

>So much complaining about gifted membership so I went and checked, there's the top 15 chatters for the latest membership stream:
>n. 1 posts: 557 Zaめ - Member (1 year)
>n. 2 posts: 491 V-Faction - Member (1 year)
>n. 3 posts: 487 StarMech the time explorer Mech - Member (1 year)
>n. 4 posts: 487 Rice - Member (1 year)
>n. 5 posts: 474 AgentofShield11 - Member (1 year)
>n. 6 posts: 429 Yubronie (professional Kromie Kisser) - Member (1 year)
>n. 7 posts: 412 Lambo - Member (1 year)
>n. 8 posts: 404 Eleegeant - Member (1 month)
>n. 9 posts: 394 BlackKnight03 - Member (1 year)
>n. 10 posts: 304 TopNepGear - Member (1 year)
>n. 11 posts: 303 Random Clipper - Member (1 year)
>n. 12 posts: 300 Nerrev - Member (1 year)
>n. 13 posts: 286 SHINJI IΞI - Member (1 year)
>n. 14 posts: 285 Doppelsimp - Member (2 months)
>n. 15 posts: 274 No. 1729 - Member (1 year)

Turns out the people being the most obnoxious during memberstreams are long time Kronies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48342654
Unicorns will find some cope to justify this but will never realize that Kronii's low sales have nothing to do with collaborating with males. The real reason is that Kronii has harbored an audience of mostly teens and casuals since the beginning (remember when they kept trying to make her say things in the superchats?), so she has to try even harder than most other holomems to shill her merch, which she doesn't. The majority of her fans are Fate fans since her mama is the artist of Fate/Extra, and the average Fate fan is only slightly less casual than the average shounen anime tard. Combine that with the high shipping costs, and the average Kronie will just sigh every time Kronii tries to sell them her stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48355505
He's a flip living in Texas, he sold some of his family's land in the motherland, just so that he could fly to Boston to talk with Kronii at the meet and greet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48377878
Infinity is right. Go to the clocktower discord if you don't believe them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48393340
Anon, you're not proving the point you think you are.

All that post says is people who have been members of hers for a while are the types who type a lot in chat which is really a no-brainer for practically any Holo. There's a difference between being a long-time member talking in chat and a large influx of grey/new member spamming stale jokes like the Subway stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48354183
>And I know because she used to read me a lot, and it was a great feeling to be picked out of a crowd of thousands
Heres the problem. You are a fucking retard vying for her attention among other retards. Your own stupidy caused your own problems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48393719
Yes I'm sure the long time members like Yubi, Rice, Nerrev, etc, don't spam the same old stale jokes all the time either. Fucks sake, he still has (professional Kromie Kisser) in his name, he's riding that shit more than the Keanu Reeves "breathtaking fag". You're telling me that these long time members who chat 400 times a stream are all contributing new and original fresh material? Fuck no, they're spamming stale jokes just the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48382825
>Doomers 100%

[Anonymous No.]

>>48384327
Lol no, go to the fancords.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48393267
>>48341895
>clearly fake chart
>laziest bait imaginable
>211 replies, some of them several paragraphs long

OP eating good tonight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48393466
It's 100% about the lack of limited merch, the high shipping costs and the fact that her merch isn't that good this year. I feel like I'm getting scammed just by looking at the shipping costs

[Anonymous No.]

>>48341895

[Anonymous No.]

>>48394502
Tempus is like the WNBA. Money was taken from the actual attraction, given to create a league, and nobody fucking cares and watches them, yet people still bitch that not enough is done to help them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48393542
holy shit, he's like that kawaiifag who sold his dad's car just to have a 1 hour call with his oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48360082
It shouldn't be their job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48354183
>People who gift memberships
They deserve to be scorned because they admitted they're doing it to attention whore and know they are disrupting the stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48397178
One discord fag bragged about it, but he's not the only one gifting memberships. And he's doing it to give more exposure to Kronii not cause he hates Kronii.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48398405
>Just one
He's the one who said the quiet part out loud. You're a pathetic apologist

[Anonymous No.]

>>48398638
I'm not apologizing for anything. Do you realize how schizo you sound? Everyone who gifts memberships to Kronii is trying to ruin her? The main complaint is it "ruins chat?" Just fucking close the chat. Are you there for Kronii or the chat?
>>48383836
>>48384020
>>48384113
I thought you Kronies weren't attention whores? Make up your mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48398781
>t. giftwhore
weird hill to die on, faggot. just SC next time you want attention

[Anonymous No.]

>>48399269
Sorry I don't watch your piece of shit boring lazy whore only propped up by a Wada model. I'm just telling you that you are deranged. Here have a clip of Noel taking membership gifting and making it a funny and heartwarming moment, something your bitter and burnt out oshi and her "fans" would never do.
https://youtu.be/XPmeYJZaEvk

[Anonymous No.]

>>48399365
>has a pre-prepared clip to defend being a giftwhore
fucking attention starved much? you're projecting too much btw sis, you glow like fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48399365
Everyone is happy about the gifted subs except for a few people on 4chan. Don't hold it against Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>48399508
Stop being a parasocial fuck, Kronii already said she doesn't want fans like you back in September.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48342654
Yeah and she’s declined hard as hell. She has the worst CCV in all of HoloEN, Kiara consistently outperforms her nowadays

[Anonymous No.]

>>48399604
>daki released
i'll accept your concession. also seek therapy if the only way you can cope in life is seeking attention via gifts. true mental illness.

[Anonymous No.]

I dropped her when she was ‘ugly crying’ after her first karaoke, for having such a supportive audience. It was more parasocial and cringe than anything I’ve seen posted in this thread.
She cultivated that audience and resented them for reciprocating, you get what you fucking deserve.

[Anonymous No.]

Redditdronies are her real fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48399804
SCs are more attention seeking than gifted memberships

[Anonymous No.]

>>48342654
kronii has nothing going for her and she doesn't even try

[Anonymous No.]

>>48399804
That merch came before September retard, which is why people hate her so much, she got the money out of the fanbase and then immediately turned on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48400107
Does she hate the long legs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48393466
>anti-unicorn coping about low sales
ironic

[Anonymous No.]

>>48400107
You shouldn't be so obsessed with someone you think has nothing going for her

[Anonymous No.]

>>48400390
Keep peddling your copium on /vt/ all you want, it won't change reality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48342654
Mori's remaining fanbase is actually cucked, like hard conservative level cucked.
There's a reason they're the most hated on /vt/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48351004
it isn't, but for miko i'll still do it, while hoping they fix it. Not gonna do it for anyone else though, but that's why she's my oshi. If you wouldn't do it for your oshi, you aren't actually a gachikoi and your oshi isn't actually your oshi, you don't have one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48357689
she's just another ethot, no need to right up walls of text about her. throw in the trash and forget.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48405097
I'd do it for the daki or plushie from her first birthday, or if she had hand-signed merch

[Anonymous No.]

>>48390756
>disagree
>says the same thing as me
So you just come here to argue huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48365293
Cuckbeat hands wrote this post

[Anonymous No.]

>>48365293
>>48405833
they are equal shits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48406006
When did kronies dox their oshi's genmates like deadbeats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48405551
I disagree about the part where you said people are there for her "music" because her music is fucking garbage.