Kiryu coco final and ultimate yab

[Anonymous No.]

This is it guys, the final yab has arrived.
Legitimate arguements have been put forth
Hypothesis postulated
But now we have a clear narrative from insiders.
With china on the horizon, it will be unforgivably obvious.
If fubuki cucks, and she will, its over. These are women at their core after all, not shonenshit heroines. They're not going to all rush in at the last moment and say "yeah coco, you said to let it be but we just can't do that" and send the monster cover down in a sea of vtuber flames to save their friend.

If cover sets a single foot in china this theory will all but be confirmed.

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>>4874639
>the final yab has arrived
Thank god, now I can leave this place and never come back.

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>>4874639
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3T57HYEvV4

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>>4874639
>But now we have a clear narrative from insiders
I think there's a solid possibility that Narukami is telling the truth here but you're gullible as fuck to take the fact that he has an "insider" at face value

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>>4874639
>FBK
Bro if Kanata cucked out then anyone else will

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>>4874720
There's no need to take it at face value, that's the strength of the narrative. There's no point for Chinese investors to invest if they're not going to bring in profits for them and their political agenda. Once cover goes to china this theory is confirmed on its own. The insider laid the foundation of a clear motive. And with plenty of supporting evidence, such as cover probably intentionally appointing the moderator.

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>>4874639
The only truth is that people are realizing they bought into a parasocial relationship. It's good that this is happening.

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>>4874771
I said fubuki will cuck yes, can't you read? I am not holding my breath for a hartwarming crowning moment of awesome. Every other holoshit talent is going to leave the dragon out to roast.

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>>4874663
why can't you just leave now?

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>>4875061
Because the drama isn't over yet.

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>>4875061
Im gay

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>>4874664
anyone else think his voice is cute in a i want to hear him get beat up way?

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>>4874771
I dunno the first thing she did was collab with coco, she definitely know whats up and has a plan, she just wanna enjoy her last moments of hololive before dragon leaves

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Nobody really cares about coco, she barely pulls a couple thousand viewers on her own and it's only collabs and meme review shit that attracts a larger crowd. 90% of the hololive fanbase just ignore that she's gone.

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>>4875254
I saw this earlier when I searched in his art tag, but he actually has a surprising amount of fangirls. I saw one artist that attacked his haters and got blocked by Kerin for calling him a piece of shit. Basically they're just as crazy as him, fan reflects the oshi etc etc. Good art though.

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>>4874639
wasn't the narrative that this guy hated vtubers? Why is he one himself?

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>>4875615
he seems pretty based if people are willing to trust him with this stuff.

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>>4875254
He attracts a lot of ryonafags

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All of the things he listed are all petty things that you think would aggrievate an 18yr old influencer. She wasn't invited to a big event. Maybe because she didn't want to go? Because of spam? Her issues with chinks were gone effectively about 2 months ago. That's why they were spreading in other channels. Do you think not being featured on the website matters to her? She fucking got a ton of money. She probably doesn't even visit the website. She wasn't being forced out, she's being dragged back in. All her coworkers wants her to stay. Cover is waiting for 1.month until letting her go. Maybe as a last ditch effort to make her stay. I think she should go. She's been miserable ever since Asacoco was canned. She can't do anything inspiring for her. She's happiest when she's busy and applying herself. Cover will never bend their content policies anymore. Heck, even Pekora, Marine and Korone got their proposals tanked. I cannot even start with Haachama. Who knows if there are more. Cover's solutions to make people stay is to give them new costumes, sucky home 3D.and probably a bigger SC cut. But that's not going to solve anything if you won't let your content creator create content.

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>>4875615
post more

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>>4876193
>shes doing great
>nothing is upsetting
>she doesnt care
>shes sad
>her projects are being attacked by management
>shes happy when she can work with others but cover wont let her
are you fucking stupid?

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>>4876193
Imagine having a controlling rich husband that won't let you go to places except work and home. He will only let you do specific work. Nothing else. She probably only stayed for her children (hologirls) but she's so drained and tapped out from the humdrum that she files for divorce. Even when her kids ask her to stay. Noone will bend. No compromise. She's happy that she's living. She's probably already planning what she wants to do as an indie.

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>>4876758
It better be an alterantive company.

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>>4874639
kunbanwa

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>>4874639
Shirakami Fubuki is already a cuck, she watches Ayunda Risu from the corner.

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>>4874639
why does his avatar look like a psychopathic villain?

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>>4876562
Sure. Like another anon mentioned he definitely attracts the ryonafags.

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>>4876918
Roughbite Ogre.......

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>>4876741
You don't know Coco do you. She has never been the one that cared for petty shit like being featured on the website. She only cared about for the longest time was hitting 1M. She already started collaborating even as far as 6 months ago. The moment she said she implied her frustrations about the HoloEN management, the ban was lifted days after. She has power to influence movement. But JP management won't let her do the shit she actually wants. You will know this if you watch her. All of the things he listed were all 2020 BS

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is there people in /vt/ whos oshimen is narucummy

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>>4876971
tskr anon

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>>4876971

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>>4877195

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>>4877312
holy

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>>4877075
>You don't know Coco do you
Your EOP and nonexistent Japanese culture knowledge is showing anon.

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>>4874900
And if Cover doesn't reopen the CN branch within a few months will people stop taking this fuckwit at his word?
Of course not, because they'll be following some new shitpost narrative by then

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>>4877312
>exposed stomach
I'M GONNA

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>>4877426
Do yourself a favor a learn how trolling works. All you need are general stereotypes and find broad even petty examples to fit your rrat. People will do the rest. He used the most obvious bait and sprinkled the most petty examples. None of the issues he said holds merit basing on all of the things that has been happening for the past 3-4 months.

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>>4877530
who cares? his niche is fueled by cover being opaque as a cement wall.

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>>4877761
Cover could literally let people into every meeting to record and people like Narukami would still have a niche by making shit up about how often someone blinked, because people love drama, real or fake,

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>>4877530
Chink thinks that their money holds value when in fact Cover actually at least 10x more profit by moving away from them. It's hilarious. All they are listing are just prospects that Cover can have but ultimately don't need anymore.

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>>4877312
Extremely fuckable

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>>4877738
I take it you self-study Japanese anon? Now read books on Japanese culture (or live there) and then you'd understand that Narukami in this case is telling more truth than not.

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>>4877861
CN literally didn't turn a profit before they got shitcanned. Why would they sink even more money into it

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>>4877851
>Cover could literally let people into every meeting to record
>BUT HES STILL GONNA GET ALL THE YOUS AND ATTENTION
Nice lie retard. try something more believable next time

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>>4878106
gacha, anime, games

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>>4877925

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>>4878192
>if you're just open and honest people won't make up shit for drama!
I take it you haven't stepped out into the real world since you came out of the womb? Nobody gives a fuck about what really happened, people just want spicy stories. If people only cared about the truth then there wouldn't be shit loads of tabloids and channels like TMZ

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>>4877925
>>4878376
thanks for turning a speculation thread into a based thread

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>>4878076
And I take it you don't know who Coco is. She's one of the few that was able renegotiate her SC cut like Rushia. She was one of the few that was able to heavily insist on EN even when she's just an employee or have no actual business to do so. She also continued asacoco even when told it's not profitable. She was always the one that bent the rules. Do you really think that them not featuring her on their website actually matters to her? If it was just shitty management, she would be able to just say them and things will suddenly change. Lamy does this all the time.

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Considering how hard chinks are attacking this video it's most likely 100% true.

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>>4878192
Not that anon, but Narukami has a history of being wrong and causing toxic discourse. Intentional or not, it is irresponsible. I don't know how you can't be critical of these types of people who thrive off drama when you have the likes of keemst*r around, seems like they have habit of creating drama more than covering it.

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>>4874639
Posting Narukami should be a bannable offense.

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>>4878396
Listen you fucking nigger, I take it you live to bootlick commies and corporations alike but most of the world, even the dumbest npc cattle know that they don't give a flying fuck and will just as soon kill you as look at you.
>if people cared about the truth media would have truth in it!
The media is literally a political propaganda arm you dumbfuck.

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>>4878738
literally easy for anyone who disagrees to invalidate it, wait for cover to not enter china with a product like gacha or something. Chinks cant help jumping the gun. they get paid to make these shitposts after all.

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>>4878738
Actual chinks on nga love this video tho

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>>4878581
literally why do you keep trying to pull this like having her unlisted is some kind of big point of the video. hes building a case against cover, not coco.

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>>4878581
The girls were already dealing with BS from the very beginning. But stayed on. They would casually talk about them. It has to be more than that to make her leave. Coco is not petty. She knows what matters. The only cause left is not permitting her to have her revamped asacoco. It's like asking a Pilot to play flight simulator or pilot a small charter but never the airbus he was actually hired to do or thought he would be able to

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>>4878842
>Set the video to go public days before cocos official graduation announcement based on actual insider information
>"NOOOOOOO STOP POSTING HE'S LYING KEEMSTAR KEEMSTAR KEEMSTAR KEEMSTAR KEEMSTAR KEEMSTAR KEEMSTAR KEEMSTAR KEEMSTAR KEEMSTAR KEEMSTAR "

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>>4878882
Fuck off back to /pol/ you flaming faggot. I call out your absolute retardation in thinking people follow Narukami for information and not for drama, and suddenly I'm a commie?
If everything on TV or even the filthiest fucking rag of a newspaper is a political propaganda arm, then what about Youtube? You think people follow DramaAlert because of his 100% accurate reporting? It's because he gets angry and calls people pedos. Why do you think there's a whole fucking category of drama channels.
Half the fucking threads on this board are speculation and shitposting, not people looking for truth or information. People are here for the fucking drama

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>>4879120
All that he listed are very petty shit or resolved problems. It only makes Coco look bad. If anyone would make a case against Cover, at least find better examples that can't be debunked after checking on Coco post Jan2021

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>>4875894
Just like pottery.

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>>4879120
>case against cover
>his mega sized rrats like Cover being chinese owned are already debunked

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>>4879279
The time of the announcement might be the only thing he knew and from the looks of it many knew about it beforehand

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>>4879322
>>4879317
>>4879447
>he bad
>everything debunk cause we say so
nice, very compelling

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>>4874639
>giving attention to rrats

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>>4878376
Rape porn in the link.
https://poipiku.com/1493818/4528656.html

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>>4879582
Fuck off nigger

>Mizuho Capital
>own by 安田善次郎
https://www.mizuhogroup.com/bank

>SMBC Venture Capital
>own by 宮田浩一
https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/smbc-venture-capital

>DIMENSION
>own by Ajay Srivastava
http://www.dimensionsonline.com/

>Strive
>own by 天野佑介
https://strive.vc/en/team

>I-nest Capital
>own by 山中 卓
https://www.i-nestcapital.com/

>Chiba Dojo
>own by 内藤 聡
https://chiba-dojo.jp/en/

>Hakuhodo DY Ventures
>own by 成田純治
https://www.hakuhodody-ventures.co.jp/

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>>4878581
Anon, srsly go read books on JP culture. Your Freedom Land business knowledge means nothing if you don't know JP culture and how the average JP corporation works. Just because you work for US corp or you are a successful US entrepreneurs doesn't mean you know shit about Japan.
I don't want to listen to Narukami either, but the whole graduation immediately following HoloEN collabs is just another piece of the puzzle I also didn't want to accept as true.
There are numerous others (the mod incidents, Coco posting くそやみそしきが, Kanatan telling Coco she has an important to decide).
Japanese doesn't harrass openly like Freedom Land, they ostracize. The fact that the ostracism stopped and then graduation right after shocked me too.

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>>4879848
very compelling, I'm super convinced.

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>>4879815

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>>4879943
So where is the proof that it's chink owned dramafag? Come on, your nip keemstar has some evidence yes?

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>>4879943
>>4879582
You seem to be confused about how things work

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>make a video of coco leaving just in case
>premier it as soon as coco announce her gradiuation on her stream
>wait for the yaoifags to unironically praise you
I despise Cover for what theyve done and yall praising this faggot is way more crimge

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>>4879886
You think Kanata would willingly stay with the company that treated her best friend so poorly? I don't think she would so maybe Coco wasn't treated poorly. What happened is that Cover probably placed some restrictions on Coco after the China incident, that I can by 100%. However I highly doubt it was done out of malice or wanting to force her out. It was just an unfortunate circumstance.

Also, Narukami has already been proven to be full of shit. Cover doesn't have any Chinese investors.

Like I said, posting Narukami rrats should be a bannable offense.

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>>4880092
if you're really worried about that, i hate him and any "news" site like him, in fact if he hated these images it would just be hotter

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>>4880092
>yall
go back

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No one here has ever taken The Quartering: Rice and Sushi edition seriously before. No reason to now.

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>>4880029
For accuracy, Narukami never said it's Chinese-owned, he said Cover has Chinese shareholders and sponsors/potential sponsors. Which is relatively accurate. Japan and China is a neighbor country anon, it's not hard to believe that there is Chinese money in JP corp and vice versa. If you can read JP or ask someone to read JP for you, you can just download financial reports of Cover's backers that are public companies and track China's money from there.

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>>4880052
The body is Coco graduation

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>>4874720

It is just a rrat in video form, good on this dude for figuring out how to monetize that and all but I mean

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>>4879815
https://poipiku.com/IllustViewPcV.jsp?ID=1370368&TD=3615534

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>>4880132
>no kanata, dont quite, I'll be fine, I'm a big girl, I would feel bad if you have to quit
Why are bugmen so inhuman they cant understand this conversation was basically guaranteed to go this way even if cocos treatment is even worse than we suspect?

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>>4880132
Kanata is finally inclining. She's got her nose in the Cover feedbag and Coco wouldn't want to take that from her.

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>>4880132
>You think Kanata would willingly stay with the company that treated her best friend so poorly?
Yes, because there are many many factors at play here. There has to be Coco's faction in the company. Even Narukami implied it in his video (about how the livers had some kind of big arguments with regards to how they handle Coco's case, so much so that the management were sick of the livers protests). It's not completely black and white here. There's a plausible deniability from inactions and exclusionary practices, unlike open harassments but most everybody that live in Japanese society would realize when they get ostracized.
Added to that, Kanatan was dirt poor. If she leave, then what anon? Japan is not Freedom Land. If Kanatan leave out of protest, she could be blacklisted from "the industry" whatever the definition of the "industry" is.
Japan doesn't operate like the US where any influences can just get sponsorship from Raytheon and shit like that.
You need company-to-company connection.
Stating reality without being sexist, these livers are female. Kanatan is female. That in itself already work against them in Japanese society.
Srsly, go read a book or three about JP society if you want to understand the dynamic here.

Also, did you know Coco was the only liver that didn't appear on Hololive Official Channel New Year event? That in itself is damning anon.

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Narucuck’s “insider informations” are as credible as “my dad works at valve” shit you see at /v/

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>>4880365
Where are the Chinese investors? You rratposters keep saying that but you don't list anything.
https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/cover-corporation/company_financials

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>>4880813
>livers
Confirmed Nijinigger, post discarded. Fuck off with your rrats.

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>>4875445
Imagine being this fucking stupid, lmao.

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>>4880813
>Stating reality without being sexist, these livers are female. Kanatan is female. That in itself already work against them in Japanese society.
It also works against them at biology, since they are less willing to step infront of danger for a friend. Kanata will cuck, Fubuki will cuck, Marine will cuck. They will see Coco's urging that she's just fine and want to believe it instead of realizing the right thing to do is to stop her from being treated this way and sticking with her no matter what; if they are truly friends anyway.

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>>4881072
Friend would never break her promise like that
She's a good person and has never done anything to hurt the other holos

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>>4881072
Dude who hurt you? This reads like some incel shit lmao

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>>4881072
>Women are well known for not stepping up to help friends in tough social situations?
Anon have you seen a woman?

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>>4874639
Is he like the batman of vtuber? in other comment they warn not to take him seriously as he had a history of causing shit.

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>>4881645
>>4881479
>>>/reddit/
>>4881400
>would never break her promise like that.
we'll see, wont we. Watch for hololive china announcements.

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>>4882042
dunno and dont care. his theory has a linch pin that is easy to prove. chinese hololive

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>>4879815
tskr

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>>4881645
This isn't true. Maybe in reality shows or tv it is. But biologically, women who works in groups will band together more fiercely when they think someone weaker than them is wounded. It's maternal. It is even more fierce if their maternal figure is in danger. Coco draws a lot of respect from her peers. A lot of them tried to dissuade her. Not just Kanata mind you. Even Choco who is the one that almost entirely does not give a fuck about numbers nor Cover's earnings tried to persuade her to stay. Their knee jerk reaction is to protect her and understand what is the problem but every time they are given sensible reasons from Coco they back down. It only means that Coco herself presented a better outlook that she may get if she leaves the company that she is currently not getting from Cover. It may be that she's just not happy with her current content or restrictions. All of them closely monitored. For people to assume that only Coco has it bad is wrong. You wouldn't have them taking long breaks to care for their sanity, having breakdowns or simply going dark if they were completely 100% okay with how they are being managed

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>>4882357
I disagree with you anon but the anon you replied to isn't.

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>>4882550
Sorry. I meant to reply to this 4881072

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>>4877195
Cutest male vtuber

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>>4882357
>For people to assume that only Coco has it bad is wrong
You understand that's why people want to believe the chink plot right? Because if she left because of the stress, pressure and fights with management it's almost certain more holos will be leaving this year.
If it's just chink spam then everything is fine.

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>>4882674
you mean most punchable

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>>4882674
He's a faggot. I can see why most of his fanart is abusive in nature or is based on the premise of "dude what if antis broke into Narukami's house and raped him lmao".

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>>4882635
anyway if you want to be redpilled on women abandoning others to the wolves in order to parrot normalfaggotry you're in the wrong board. Women will definitely favor their family and friends but they are not risk takers by nature and what we are talking about exposes them all to additional risk.

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>>4879815
Who's the other dude in the other posts from this author? Just some OC character?
And 10/10, by the way.

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>less than 40 IPs
>over 100 posts
Meds all of you

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>>4883051
>pure rrat thread
There are no meds here bro

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>>4883051
>>>/reddit/
take your wojack speak with you.

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>>4883051
i WILL not take my meds and i WILL be looking at his lewds

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>>4883012
I had to look it up, but apparently it's actually some irl voice actor Narukami collabed with at some point, Ogajin. It's the guy on the left in this video. No idea why they're being coupled together.
https://youtu.be/GfliFYhg1w8

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>>4880365
The last time I worked for a Japanese corp, we wound up getting bought out by a Chinese company using a reverse merger that made it appear that we were buying the Chinese company, but in fact we were being bought by them. The financial bullshit was to work around Japanese laws regarding foreign ownership of publicly traded companies and Chinese bureaucracy. It also turned out that the Chinese company was essentially fake. This sort of backdoor listing is fairly common practice. This article covers what happened in case anyone is curious https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenharner/2012/02/27/tokyo-stock-market-rocked-by-madoff-style-fraud-and-chinese-backdoor-listing/

So, it's entirely possible that Cover has Chinese investors with Japanese masks. And in any case, China is so deeply involved in Japan's entertainment and tech industries that it would be impossible for Cover to grow without bending the knee, much as the entire anime and vidya industries already have.

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ok im gonna post one too

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>>4874639
>If Cover sets foot in China
They ALREADY have chinese investors and shareholders. They don't need to make a new HoloCN just to prove him right.

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>>4883780
>impossible to grow
thats where you're wrong. people want to buy from those who arent bending the knee. >>4883988
talking about gacha, retard. chinks love their dumb gambling games.

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>>4883988
>They ALREADY have chinese investors and shareholders
Name some

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>>4883988
What's a Japanese website where you can view Cover's list of shareholders? I tried googling it but I couldn't find shit.

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>>4874639
Stop posting narukami rrat

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>>4882357
>but every time they are given sensible reasons from Coco they back down
One of that reason is sponsorship money anon.

Average China corps preemptively self-censor themselves by not sponsoring companies that recognizes Taiwan as a separate country due to China's domestic political situation.

We are all aware that livers aren't getting Bilibili money from last year's incident. Add to that (even without Narukami rrat) China sponsors are definitely pulling out too (as this isn't the first time this happened with Cover). No matter how hard other livers are with their support for Coco, the fact remains Cover is in an extremely difficult situation ever since the Bilibili incident and all livers are also aware of that.

>>4884027
Almost all multinational companies bend the knee anon.

>>4883780
This desu.

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>>4884153
>Almost all multinational companies bend the knee anon.
of course they do, but it's got nothing to do with growth. the globohomo will try to crush them under yab after yab if they dont obey.

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>>4883988
Show them then? You can easily find AnyColor's Chinese connections but you can't for Cover because they most likely don't exist. Sure, you can come up with a rrat like >>4883780 did, but until we see solid proof it is simply a rrat and NaruKEKi is talking out of his ass. Remember his "insider" connections basically amount to "my dad works at Nintendo". Narukami has been a bullshit artist for a long time and the fact that you are willing to take his information at face value here shows me what your true motivations are. Fuck off you dirty fucking anti.

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>>4883951
nice

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>>4874639
I can't trust Narukami after he ruined Roa's career.

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>>4883988
Ok, give names or any kind of source then, it shouldn't be that hard if you're so sure.

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>>4874639
Let's just go with the assumption that Narukami's rrat is true. Just playing hypothetical here before anybody jumps down my throat.

Why would they do this? Haven't they already proven that they don't need China to be successful? They picked up huge momentum with the west and, especially after HoloEN Gen 2 debuts and probably blows up too, they should have focused on getting western merch deals. You know, like those stupid POP Vinyl things and shit like that. Unless that shit is connected to China too and in that case I almost feel bad for Cover. Talk about being stuck between a rock and a hard place.

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>>4884027
Everyone is bending the knee because China is now a top consumer as well as producer, and companies are willing to take the hit from losing business in the US in order to see growth in China.

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>>4884752
money doesnt come from nothing.

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>>4877075
He thinks he knows a 2d image
What a fuckin sperg

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>>4884737
merch is almost guaranteed to be blacklisted but there's always india. in the mean time I suspect the gacha will prove the proof in the pudding or give the final ogey to this rrat.

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>>4880813
> Nijinigger echoing anti-holo rrats

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>>4880922
it was a nijinigger he would hide it to blend in

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>>4884737
>Haven't they already proven that they don't need China to be successful?
From superchats and viewers growth. According to Narukami it's sponsorship money problem now. If within the next year Hololive get sponsored by Chinese companies again, we'll know then that his rrat is true. For now I preemptively agree with his rrat though.

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>>4880922
https://youtu.be/4JACxzBnk0Y?t=5

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>>4885042
not being invited to the group new year photo was the biggest indicator. that was a straight cunt move with no excuses

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>>4885070
According to Narukami, the final straw for Coco was when "trolls were being made mods" mistake happened. She thought it's unbelievable for it to be human error and consistent with the pattern she's been experiencing.
In hindsight, that was the most blatant move.

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>>4885042
Thats what I'm saying though, why not turn to the west for sponsorship deals instead of taking the PR hit of kneeling the China?

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>>4885368
West don't give a shit about Vtubers
Simple as

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>>4883988
Prove it.

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>>4885368
China is the only major country that takes vtubing seriously. US still looks at it as some kind of meme

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>>4885368
Cover is a Japanese companies though anon, not US companies. Japan's money and China's money is extremely intertwined, no multinational companies from Japan can just fuck off and not having business deal with China.
Coco still got the short end of the stick, and the way Cover handle it is not entirely perfect either. Coco wasn't the first time Hololiver that categorizes Taiwan as a country but for some bizarre reason it went as big as it did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4885461
>>4885490
I mean, I've seen streamers with much less viewership/engagement than Gura get lucrative sponsorship deals in the west. Yeah, I know, she is a vtuber, but with that kind of viewership I'm sure they could work something out.

Also, do you really think if they released a set of Hololive POP Vinyls that they wouldn't sell out right away?

[Anonymous No.]

Keep in mind that you can't launder leaks if everything you say is true, especially if your successful rrat ratio is too good.

[Anonymous No.]

ENGLISH TITLE

ENGLISH SUBTITLES

NARUKAMI DOESN'T SPEAK ENGLISH

NARUKAMI DOESN'T SPEAK ENGLISH

MOST OF HOLOLIVE DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH

ONLY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE HAVE INSIDE INFORMATION ABOUT HOLOLIVE AND SPEAK ENGLISH

THINK, FAGGOTS!

WHY DO YOU THINK THE COCO LEAK WAS THE ONLY VIDEO ON NARUKAMI'S CHANNEL TAILORED TO AN ENGLISH SPEAKING AUDIENCE WHEN KIRYU COCO IS OFFICIALLY A PART OF HOLOLIVE JP?

WHO WOULD THINK A JP HOLO'S CORE FANBASE WAS KAIGAI NIKKI UNLESS THEY IMMERSED THEMSELF IN AND UNDERSTOOD THE ENGLISH FANBASE?

THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE SEVENTH TRUMPET

[Anonymous No.]

Haachama is next one to be bullied out by Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4885824
>Coco translated the video
Exactly

[Anonymous No.]

>>4874900
>Chinese investors
Cover is a private company you retards, investors mean jack shit to them. if they really were under pressure from Chinese investors and executives, they wouldn't have axed their entire CN branch 8 months ago. Narukami is either full of shit and making stuff up, or is dumb to believe someone who was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4884752
>top consumer
Except Hololive didn't lose money by dropping China.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4885738
Were they on twitch? Because I feel like them being on YouTube is also a factor that will make them not care at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>4885042
There is no sponsorship money. They are getting deals left and right. Sanrio, Family Mart, Rakuten, Stukkomi, Xbox, Red Bull, Good Smile and all of the minor JP companies that are releasing their merch. Their HoloFes2 earned them millions of dollars. They did it again with Bloom. And again with From1st. All of their content are actually getting sanitized by the day and are focused on doing concerts. All of this moves happened when they left CN. Don't be fooled. A lot of chinks their money is important when in fact Hololive has moved on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4885949
If you want to aggressively call other people retard, at least be smarter than them. Cover talents needs permission to stream games, those public game companies have Chinese investors too. Not to mention companies originated from China that self-censor and choose not to sponsor.
>>4885991
They don't "lose" money per se but they lose potential profit anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4885824
>The subtitles also use meme language like "shitstorm" and "roommate"
HOLY FUCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>4884752
The only way chinks will get their merch is through scalping or paying the shipping fees. Which they do either way btw. Nothing changed when Holo left CN. The people there still consume Holo like normal and still buy the merch. Onky difference now is that Cover isn't bound by Bilibili's BS. It was a great move.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886015
>There is no sponsorship money
We'll see in the next 12 months anon. I don't want to believe Narukami rrat is the truth either, but based on my own understanding of Japan, it's hard to argue with what he said, compounded with things that happened in front of us like Coco allegedly was not invited to the Hololive new year countdown event in the official channel.
Narukami may not be 100% correct but with the absent of better rrat, I'm incline to believe that video he put out,

My autistic rrat is that the insider that gave Narukami the info is some top liver like FBK, kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886092
Permissions that they don't need anymore. We all see that they are getting shilled hard by AAA publishers now. The boost they got from Square Enix alone and Capcom is clear. Lize can't even go beyond 20k genshin and Pekora can brick that with going all autistic on Dragon Quest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4885824
aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886255
The best insider ID rrat is obviously Coco herself and if you want to be really schizo about it, Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886092
>permissions
Which aren't really an issue anymore. They mostly have all the permissions they need from the big companies. They just can't play Chinese shit like Genshin but who gives a fuck about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886255
The moment they put forth any chinese shit everyone will back out. No stupid person will actually do that especially when they know their success is wildly held by their brand alone. That is called suicide.

[Anonymous No.]

What if the source of the insider info and translation was a manager?
Most managers know English well enough and would be engaged in the community to know the lingo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886374
This, I don't think even Cover is that stupid. If they fired Coco to re-enter China than they can kiss HoloEN goodbye. The west is, right now, perhaps more anti-china than they have ever been and if the fanbase finds out that they fired their beloved Coco for the Zhangs they are gone, full stop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886255
Narukami actually hasn't released any new info we have to wait a while for his "insider" stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>4883951
God I want Narukami to fuck my oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886374
Cover maybe stupid but they aren't that stupid. There is no insider. I honestly think he just precorded this shit since early 2021 and have been waiting for the Coco to announce a graduation. He would have shown more damning evidence beyond Jan2021 if that was the case

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886445
>God I want my Oshi to fuck Narukami
There, fixed it for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886430
>>4883951
god I want to ryona Narukami

[Anonymous No.]

Why anybody here believes anything Narukami says is beyond me. Either newfags or retards, all of you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886546
My Japanese is bad enough and he speaks similar enough to news casters for my simple brain to believe in him.
Also, his avatar is kind of cute, ngl

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886106
>>4885824
OGEY

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886546
He still knew in advance about coco

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886092
>Cover talents needs permission to stream games, those public game companies have Chinese investors too. Not to mention companies originated from China that self-censor and choose not to sponsor.
>moving the goalpost this hard
permissions and sponsorships aren't the same thing as having chink investors and executives in your company, retard. those permissions and sponsorships from chinks also don't mean shit when Cover has been making money hand over fist for the past 9 months. your rrats are shit and you should feel like shit. Coco is leaving because she doesn't want to put up with the shit show zhangs have created around her anymore and be forced to watch as it continues to not only cause problems for her, but for all her friends too. you just don't want to accept that because you're an impoverished NEET that can't comprehend that not even millionaires are mentally prepared for a year long harassment campaign against them and everyone associated with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886638
>make a video of coco leaving just in case
>premier it as soon as coco announce her gradiuation on her stream
>wait for the yaoifags to unironically praise you

[Anonymous No.]

One thing people don't realize, is that for a company to get money out from China they need to wait 6 months, so the decision to kick Coco was probably already made since the incident.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886638
>it's impossible to make shit up as it's happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886754
It was posted before the announcement
>>4886780
The video was already edited and premiered. Narukami gets shit wrong all the time but the rrat that feed him this time was legit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886698
According to Narukami it's not just harrassments from outside but also neglect from inside the company. That's what sad about all this. It sunk my heart too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886938
Cover were her biggest antis the whole time. It was an inside job. Narukami doesn't speak English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886938
>according to Narukami
And into the trash your post goes

[Anonymous No.]

>>4885824
You seriously can't be this retarded, do your reps anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886698
yeah... remember that they started spamming to other members not so long ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886804
wasn't it uploaded like an hour after cocos stream began?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4887059
It was uploaded 13 minutes before Coco stream started. Check the metadata

[Anonymous No.]

>>4887003
Good job refuting what Narukami was saying.
How much does Cover pay you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4887127
Does Narukami have any proof to back his claims up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4887127
They don't pay me anything, I do it for free. I may be a shill according to you but at least I'm not braindead retarded enough to believe anything Narukami says. At least I have that over your dumb ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4887127
how much did narukami get from Cover when he leaked Kaoru information?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4877312
Artists please

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886754
why are you reposting your own post

[Anonymous No.]

LUV ME SHITPOST DRAGON

LUV ME TAIWAN GRIFFIN

CHANG CAN GO SLEEP IN THE GUTTER WHY DON'CHA

SIMPLE AS

[Anonymous No.]

>>4887157
>>4887172
>>4887178
lmao baited
If you weren't a EOP retard, you wouldn't even be scared of his bullshit.
Covercucks are so easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4887157
no. but look how well it's working out for him anyway!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4887502
>durr if you hate jap keemstar the must mean you love Cover
You stupid niggers and your stupid fallacies. Hating Cover and hating some dramanigger aren't mutually exclusive you faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4887502
O shit misteru yagoo hwat shourd i do? baka gaijin on 4chan reveared my disguise and knew I work fo you!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4876824
It won't be. She has enough money and support to make bank as an indie. On the bright side. Delta and Kson shitpost review is now on the table! Delta follows Kson and has for a long time I think she wanted to collab with Coco but you know that never happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4874720
If he had an insider we would see screenshots from internal discord or some documents and shit anything solid enough to give it more credence than a common rrat (which it almost certainly is).

[Anonymous No.]

>>4875615
He's basically the DeSaad of the fad

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886490
Cover is betting the debut of EN2 will distract the west enough that they won't notice/care when Cover starts back in with the ccp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4887878
It will backfire because once they restart activities in china, the unsubcriptions will be massive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4887878
>>4888026
Won't happen. People aren't happy about the graduation of Coco but are willing to eventually accept it as a massive unfortunate circumstance. If they try to restart in China though? They are done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4874639
Why would Coco cucked out herself though? It's not like contract would stop her from at least alluding how she was fucked by Cover at every fuckin occasion (especially on her roommates account with 400K subs atm) or even leaking shit directly to Narukami like Meiro, did they forced her to say "stay positive guys"? Shit makes no sense unless they've made a deal of some sort that she's happy with, I guess it's possible that they gave her a bag of gold just to leave in peace it tend to work with dragons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888098
The same was said about the Gamebu. And look what happened to Unlimited. It's like you people don't heed the advice of history

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888193
why would they have to force her to say something self effacing for her friends sake?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888193
Not everything has to be a conspiracy. What I think happened is Cover initially put restrictions on her until the shitstorm died down. Coco was initially ok with this and it seemed to work as the harassment died down. Eventually Coco got to the point where she wanted to start working with her friends again and do collabs with them, EN, ID, etc. Cover gave the ok on this but once this happened the harassment kicked into gear again but this time with a different strategy, target her friends instead of her. They went after Aqua hard and it clearly got to her emotionally. This was probably the last straw for Coco and she probably said "it's just better if I leave". Nobody wanted this to happen and Miko even tweeted out that she tried to convince her to stay but Coco didn't budge. She was fine taking the harassment herself but seeing her friends get hurt was too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4887878
Cover is dead to the west if they ever go back to China. That's pretty much one of the only hard lines the western community has. Hell, even JP side of things is in full Chinese hate mode right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888379
Your fanfic doesn't make sense, because Coco's chat has been shit since the incident.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4878106
>Why would they sink even more money into it
Management clout, a part in decision making, etc.

China will find a use for them yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888556
It got significantly better since the initial harassment and I already said in my piece that Coco was fine taking the harassment herself. It's when they started going after her friends (The Aqua incident) that she finally said enough is enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4882357
Even more notable was the fact that she would often stream on her personal channel after canceling Hololive streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888412
>even JP side of things is in full Chinese hate mode right now.
They're just us with slanty eyes and sideways vaginas. Obviously they'd be angry. Even more so when weren't getting hard filtered every time she did a Japanese chat stream. Those supacha numbers disn't come from out of thin air. Coco was beloved by both east and west.

Imagine creating geographical unity against your entire company by ousting a globally beloved entertainer just so the incompetent management staff could save face. They clearly learned nothing from dotlive and gamebu. What a bunch of greedy tards.

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>>4880608
>It is just a rrat in video form
anon, but the rrat doesn't belong to him, belongs to the insider, there is no fucking way this guy has permanently followed Coco to pinpoint the tweets and documents showed, and to stream in less than an hour in the same day Coco announced the graduation, and the insider could be very well one of the holos wanting to hit back once Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4879505
Why didn't he talked about it right before? Would have made his case stronger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888603
Stop lying. It wasn't the antis. It was cover's own staff power harassing her. She got spitroasted from both front and back. It'a gamebu all over again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4879162
Asacoco was slowly killing her by overwork

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888729
Lies. This was only because she was working another job earlier in her career.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888667
So it's Mel giving him information again? I didn't know she was that close to Coco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888695
nice rrat
Show the proof jackass

[Anonymous No.]

>>4880608
You don't understand man, it's a rrat but it fits my headcanon. Therefore it might as well be the fact

[Anonymous No.]

Be careful. There are a couple Cover shills in this thread who try their hardest to make it seem like Cover is a perfect Company with no faults.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888892
Oh you mean the redditors? They've always been here

[Anonymous No.]

Coco is shit and no matter what the truth behind her circumstances is, I'm just gladvhe's finally gone

[Anonymous No.]

>>4876193
be more concise and pinpoint you ideas, your wall text is a mess

[Anonymous No.]

>>4880608
He's trying to become relevant again after getting his channels deleted and his actual vtuber career never taking off.
It'd be like blindly trusting an anon from here spouting /vt/ or /jp/ rrats as gospel. He does the same thing except with 5ch rrats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888931
Not only that they are using the "americans being racist against china" approach

[Anonymous No.]

>>4878106
you are all so stupid and think they want Holo CN back, what they want is the juice and easy money from game companies like Riot games, Genshin Impact, many other gachas and sponsorship from ASUS and other chinese companies

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888975
His channels were DMCA'd by a rival gossip vtuber called Virtual Buddha (who operates on Nico). Buddha hates Nijisanji and hates Narukami.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888379
This.
This is what happened most probably, and you all trying to see conspiracy theories where there are none are dumbasses. Stop listening to this dramafaggot and hate the CCP more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889042
That's basically the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4880863
He did have insiders for Meiro V Roa (Meiro herself), also the Mel case I believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889122
What about Kaoru?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888975
guy has hundreds of thousands of views on this one video.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889087
BELIEVE WOMEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889199
No shit, everyone is talking about Coco's graduation and everyone being vague about it is making things worse.
It's the perfect situation to jump start your drama channel again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889252
its the normal amount of views for any of hololive rrats you fucking autistic zhang.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889252
>everyone being vague
This is where the entire industry could improve. Cover and Coco aren't telling us anything when they could easily nip this in the bud just by issuing an official statement telling us what happened. Instead they stay silent which lets frauds like Narukami become the arbiters of information which lets the rrats become fat and happy.

Actual transparency solves all of this, but no, just stay silent and let all this negativity fester.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889153
Where did he get his Kaoru cheating rrat anyway? 5ch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4880052
when cover goes for china's sweet sweet money, they will defend the company

[Anonymous No.]

>>4882674
That’s not Mashiro

[Anonymous No.]

I think I'll believe him for now. He was right about Cover doing nothing to stop Mel's manager from stalking her so she had to threaten to go to court right? So it's obviously true he has contacts in Cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889334
We have Coco's graduation. Cover has motive, means and opportunity. Leaks have implicated them in a power harassment scandal. It's the perfect storm. We're already at seventh trumpet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889334
As a dyed in the wool Holoshill who 100% accepts the "Coco just left on her own" narrative if Cover tries to step foot in China again I will be done with them. That would be a bridge too far for even me to wave off with cope. I would only watch my oshi Miko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4885824
So, you're telling me Coco leaked all the info to Narukami and cherry on top she translated it in "western" (iywim) to make it look like a rrat. So she can have an alibi in case cover wants blood.

Is this just a comeback to cover or part of a bigger 4d chess move?

I want to believe.....on the rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>4885209
That was a weird one although Cover does have a pattern of incompetence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4885824
>>4889440
>>4886106
holy ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889436
Miko wouldn't want you to be a Holoshill. She tried to get Coco, her friend, to stay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4885490
Seems like a pretty niche hobby considering the size of their population.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4885665
Chinese spergs wanted to hate her from the start

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889436
>if
They want the sponsor money. No Holo cn, only gacha sponsorships. Genshin is coming.

>>4889440
The rrat was meant to expose Cover and let the market decide. They might be too big to fail, but I won't be watching or supporting them anymore. Hololive is dead to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889405
Wrong.
The problem there was that the manager being you know... the manager, had ways to cover up his actions. And Mel's tries to contact higher ups were obstructed by him as well, which held a grade of believability that made it easy for him to do so at first.
She had to go to court to make the thing get to the upper levels without him stopping her. She was stalking her, so he knew where she was all the time, stopping any try to get help.
Add that Mel is quite introverted and shy, and there you have it.

Don't believe this man. He has no proofs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4885665
Coco is American anon. That alone was reason for them to hate her. Not only that but she started the trend of catering to the west among Holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4885824

[Anonymous No.]

>>4880132
>You think Kanata would willingly stay with the company that treated her best friend so poorly?
You see; in hololive there is nobody more close to Coco than Kanata, she has watched how all this situation has evolved and devolved in first person and at a very close distance, so all of this was not surprise for her and she expected it, unlike the rest of the shubas.
Coco said yesterday that don't worry, she is gonna become a superstar in other world, she also said that she loves the vtuber scene and doesn't plan to abandon it, even before she said that she was interested in the management side, she also insited to cancel her the membership (in order to not give more money to Cover).
Coco unlike most of this board is not stupid, she will capitalize with the grieveance and maximize the sadness in her fans because of her graduation, and once it's done, she will shortly anounce her reborn as an indie vtuber, or as a new vtuber agency.
All of the mourning fans will rush to her, and she definetly become a success, and is that moment that many more shubas will anounce their graduation, and move with Coco, all of this is known and expected by Kanata, Rushia and some other holos, that's why PPT is calm at the moment, everything is going according to plan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4874639
>>4875894
>>4882042
>>4884633
Is Narukami the final boss of vtubers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889828
She already has a model though

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886374
Coco retirement will have almost no impact to hololive, it's a hard pill to swallow, but it's the true. The only relevant streams from her were meme review, and that spot could be taken by anyone from EN. The HoloEN newfags don't really care that much about Coco, and they'll stick with Gura and Mori as usual. For the JP side, the face of hololive still is Pekora, who will continue to do her solo streams, and for superchat there is Rushia.
Cover can announce their sponsorship with Tencent this year and people will defend them. By the time the 2nd holoEN batch debuts or 6th gen comes out, Coco will be black history, and there is a chance that holofags will even turn on her, depending on how her roommate behaves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4885824
>all acording to plan

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889828
This cope
>coco sama, you can't do it. you cant leave on your own
>No, I have to. I couldn't bare to take your success away. you earned it, don't throw away everything you worked for

[Anonymous No.]

>>4875445
thats pretty true

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889828
>she will shortly anounce her reborn as an indie vtuber, or as a new vtuber agency.
Retarded newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4874639
Kanata leaked everything as a final act of love, even knowing she might get caught and canned next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889912
I don't think this is true. If everything stays the same as it is now then you are right. People aren't happy about Coco's graduation but they will eventually move on and keep following their favorites. However, if they try doing business with China again I think people would revolt over that after what happened to Coco. It might not "kill" them, but it would hurt them immensely. Sort of like how .LIVE technically wasn't killed but they are currently operating as a shell of their former selves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889974
leaked what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888379
Wasn't that Aqua shit comming from the island nation of Taiwan lately for Apex-related reasons? Also Youtube might implement this new VPN-scum protection on other channels at some point it's weird that she would lose hope when her channel got mostly cleaned up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4886438
>they can kiss HoloEN goodbye
false, thousands of redditards on r/hololive, are voluntarily chopping their brains in half and turning blind in order to defend Cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889828
TWO. MORE. WEEKS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889912
>holoEN
>Coco
wew lad

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889988
Her wet pussy all over Coco’s face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889988
Her sextape with me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4890037
JP care even less about Coco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889912
>Coco retirement will have almost no impact to hololive
See, that's part of the issue. Cover decided to lay down these stupid restrictions which nerfed Coco's content hard. She flat out can't do Asacoco, which is what she was known for. Meme review was just a side gig at first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4881400
>Friend would never break her promise like that
It's too late, she's gone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4890027
Yeah because now everything is a rrat. If Cover actually tries doing business with China again that is when you will see the fallout because it would prove the rrats correct.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889096
>That's basically the same.
NO YOU FUCKING IMBECILE, HOLOCN MEANS INVESTMENT FROM THEM

[Anonymous No.]

>>4890158
>Coco retirement will have almost no impact to hololive
Speak for yourself. I'm boycotting cover. They're a black company that exploits and abuses their female employees. Anyone doing business with them should be publicly shamed and ostracized. There's no place for cover in the west.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4890091
do your numberfag reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>4890238
How can you boycott something you never watched Nijinigger?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889985
They won't, people will defend Cover no matter what at this point. I've seen anons getting angry at Aloe for shitting on Cover recently in her roommate's twitter.
And Cover and .LIVE were fucking nothing alike, I don't know why people are comparing the two of them.

[Anonymous No.]

We ignored the signs

[Anonymous No.]

>>4890265
You first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889912
That's assuming there's no other yabs coming in the immediate future that make Cover look even worse, though. With a couple of the other girls seeming like they're at breaking point and Korone's bad news still unresolved I think it's still a pretty precarious situation for them

[Anonymous No.]

>>4889828
screencap, remember and save this anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888259
Why would she defend a company that might fuck with her friends and is not trustworthy? Like I've said she doesn't have to be this positive about it and make us trust the company when we shouldn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4888193
>from at least alluding how she was fucked by Cover at every fuckin occasion
In a very roundabout Japanese-y way, she was.In a very direct non Japanese-y way she also did with the くそやみそしきが picture from months ago.

>or even leaking shit directly to Narukami like Meiro
Japanese industry works off of reputation not merit, very generally speaking. You can't just wreck shit and comes out on top just because you are in the right like you can do in Freedom Land. As sad as it is, it's the reality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4874639
>If fubuki cucks, and she will

[Anonymous No.]

>>4890492
I don't think they can fuck up harder than this. Unless there is mass graduation, I think it'll be business as usual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4890678
Y'all need to pay attention the next time crisis comes again. Right after the bomb dropped, FBK is always, without fail, start streaming to divert that attention and energy. I've seen this happening over and over since September last year.

[Anonymous No.]

Coco or Cover, or even better, both of them together need to release a statement addressing what happened. The rrats are feasting too much and are multiplying at numbers unheard of. Internet communities are being over run by this rrat infestation and only Cover and Coco can put a stop to it. Release the rrat poison and genocide the rrats!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4890319
Nijisanji is a black company that does business with the illegitimate people's republic of China, which is currently occupying the republic of china's stolen land. I won't be watching nijisanii anymore either.

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>>4888667
But he already talked about this rrats before (and more like some discord hackers bullshit being behind her break) it's just 5ch stuff some of it plausible, some schizo bullshit like management hating murricans only to pivot to them so hard.

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>>4890903
>anymore
???

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>>4890460
>pekora is the only popular holo in Japan
huh I never knew

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>>4889317
If it's because of the antis they really shouldn't

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>>4890928
I like Hana macchia. She's like the dykebaby of Ame, Ina and gura, the three most comfy en holos. It's gonna kill me to not have her lull me to sleep with gremlin asmr, but I'll find a way to slumber nonetheless. Sacrifices must be made.

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>>4890719
You're probably right, though since Korone still hasn't specified the exact nature of her issue I kind of wonder if it's something like Mel's situation. I guess it'd be pretty unlikely that she'd just keep streaming in the interim if that were the case.

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>>4874639
Are the antis trying to do the "repeat a lie long enough and people will think it is true"?

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>>4891164
i'm merely shocked you didn't know nijisanji had a chinese branch
should i be shocked? i don't know anymore, this board makes me feel unmedicated

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>>4889122
>meiro herself
Lol thats what ichikara wants you to believe
The discord leak happened even after Meiro got dismissed.
She did nothing wrong

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>>4889828
lol she already is an indie chuuba

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>>4891164
>Just now boycotting Nijisanji
Nijisanji has been China's bitch for a long time anon. You are just virtue signalling and don't actually plan to follow through with your commitments.

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>>4887372
xaxa_soso

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Even if the girls get permission to play or is paid a fuck ton of money to shill a Chinese game, i doubt anyone will accept it. All of them are self aware that it is suicide. Mori on the other hand.. will shill anything.

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>>4891206
Isn't her manager a woman? How was her grandma doing btw?

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>>4874639
>What is up Drama Alert Nation in Japanese

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>>4889938
>>4889970
Newfag my ass
There is precedent with Kusunoki Sio, this is exactly what happened, and as an indie she grew much more than in a company, ask Towafags

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>>4891595
I think she said her grandmother and mother were both fine when she brought it up.

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>>4889988
>leaked what?
just kill yourself, your brain is worthless

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>>4891638
She also died much faster, so that's a fair trade

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>>4891638
>Coco is Sio 2.0
fuck off anon this rrat is too entertaining

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>>4889436
>if they suspend her then I will be done
>if they harass her then I will be done
>if they graduate her then I will be done
>you are here
>if they come back to china then I will be done
>if they rape and murder her then I will be done

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>>4890025
Not that anon, but Aqua was actually hit by a combination of antis from China, Taiwan and Japan, and he's right in that Coco has been feeling extremely guilty over the spam spilling over to her friends. Both Korone and Flare had mentioned it before. I don't think she would be leaving if Cover were more competent and less restrictive, but I also don't buy Narukami's take that it was a targeted harassment campaign.

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>>4877312
I don't get the stat screen.

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>>4890180
>because it would prove the rrats correct.
they don't even know what is a rrat, they automatically shut up everyone that speaks against Cover

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>>4891520
Thanks, password on the poipiku if you know?

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>>4891774
it's so you can get satisfaction of his attack dropping to 0 when you tie him up and his defenses dropping to 0 when you start railing on his stomach

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>>4891772
Sure, giving moderation to the antis was an accident, I belev it, fucking retards

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>>4885824
>>4886106

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>>4891756
Yeah, you can say that but it's not true. I'm not going to stop watching Hololive over a graduation because vtuber graduations happen all the fucking time. This is just a bigger deal because it's the first major graduation Hololive has had. Now, if it comes out that she was forced out so Cover can start doing business in China again, yeah, that would be too much for me.

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>>4891927
It's believable that it was pure incompetence because we know for a fact the Cover rotates managers. Nene and Marine said this. Marine per se had a very clumsy manager that would tend to forget what she even asked about. Nene and Lamy's previous manager was hostile and would insult them. Flare and Noel's manager was S tier. Matsuri's manager is an Masochistic simp that lets her do whatever she wants. She asks her to send her a pic of his dog. He immediately snaps one for her

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>>4891832
Follow along tard. Everybody speaking against Cover right now is just purely speculating so it's getting shut down. That is probably a good thing because have you seen the state of this place due to the rrats? I can guarantee you that if solid proof comes out that she was forced out so they can get into China again they will not be so friendly.

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>>4890492
What's this about Korone? Been busy with my own corporate debacle so it's the first I've heard of it.

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>>4891319
>even after

she also did an H parody of her drama called "Noa from Nibisanji organization that want's to steal your semen" or something like that (it was a voice acting thingy) she's a vengeful bitch.

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>>4891662
Would that mean... the dog was raped? That's slightly hard to believe when you've seen her roommate, she also trains boxing.

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>>4892130
Pretty much. I'm not going to jump the gun because some JP Keemstar made rrat in video form. Everyone who has been following Coco knows all of this already. There's probably a copy pasta of it somewhere. But if they fucking forced her to retire and shill China. I will never forgive them. But as far as how things are going and how the girls are reacting, it looks like more of 50% creative differences 30% Cover incompetence 20% Chink spam

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>>4892299
100%
incompetence doesn't mean malice. Incompetent managers probably need to be dealt with but it doesn't mean they necessarily forced her out due to malice.

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>>4892299
I remember Coco actually defended the new restrictions around that thing with haachama talking about how there are more eyes at them and you never know with youtube etc. so it's for their own protection and they didn't push against it.

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>>4892299
>>4892371
Never said malice though. They can be extremely stupid and still mean well. But as far as Cover goes. Coco is just not getting any new ideas approved. There is incompetence but none of them have really shown to affect her asides from the rejections and mods which was quickly resolved. So that's why I still rank creative difference higher than incompetence. Cover has always been incompetent. The girls managed. The chink trolling was not an issue anymore since last month if I can recall.

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>>4874900
>>4885949
>>4886092
>Miko talk about what happens on Coco
https://youtu.be/pvPk-IiXYRc

>Chinese investor
source from my ass
>real Cover investors
actually owned by JP
ogey rrat
>Mizuho Capital
>own by 安田善次郎
https://www.mizuhogroup.com/bank

>SMBC Venture Capital
>own by 宮田浩一
https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/smbc-venture-capital

>DIMENSION
>own by Ajay Srivastava
http://www.dimensionsonline.com/

>Strive
>own by 天野佑介
https://strive.vc/en/team

>I-nest Capital
>own by 山中 卓
https://www.i-nestcapital.com/

>Chiba Dojo
>own by 内藤 聡
https://chiba-dojo.jp/en/

>Hakuhodo DY Ventures
>own by 成田純治
https://www.hakuhodody-ventures.co.jp/

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>>4892543
She said that. And she also said on her other streams that her projects weren't getting approved. She has been teasing that she's working on a number of projects. None were approved. Some didn't even had an explanation why they were denied. The same goes with Pekora, Marine and Korone. All projects that aren't idol concerts or slaptick in 3D form wasn't getting approved.

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>>4891756
this is partially true, i was in r/hololive when everything burned when Coco and Haachama were suspended, so it didn't happened, but not now 80% of that people is composed of HoloEN newfaggots that don't give a fuck about Coco, and the mods will delete any comment against Cover, so even if all the people that are now against Cover were all the same people as back then, it's still a minority

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>>4875947
there are way more twitters dedicated to this than i thought
there are also gameplay clips of him there and he's an extreme pussy when it comes to horror

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>>4892574
>That Mio video
And this is why the rrat spreaders should be rounded up and ritually executed. If you are going to accept what Narukami stated as fact then why won't you accept what Mio said as fact? Mio flat out says "This is not her doing something wrong and getting fired so be at ease".

They schizos want their rrats to feed though.

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Man I want to fuck Narukami now thanks faggots

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>>4892866
that's kind of gay lol

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>>4892879
yeah right haha imagine spreading his hole and start licking there haha

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>>4892042
>because vtuber graduations happen all the fucking time
Hololive right now is the NBA Dream Team of 1992, the legendary full team with Korone, Fubuki, Pekora, Miko and even Luna, Towa and Mel that gives more color to the team, and all of this is about to end, this is like when John left the Beatles, all of them were famous and succesful, but never again were together, Hololive fenomenon that had both fans in Japan and Overseas has never happened and never will, even this dumpster of a board /vt/ exist because of them, nijikeks and vshocucks can't even make for a single decent holo thread like Gawrgura general, Watamelon or even the Lunaito thread.

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>>4892118
>it was pure incompetence because we know for a fact the Cover rotates managers
yeah and it was also an accident that Mel got harrased by her manager, poor Cover...

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>>4892136
About a month ago Korone sent out a very vague tweet about considering quitting but deleted it shortly afterward. She explained in her saga frontier stream the next day that something sad happened and that she had been considering quitting but she reconsidered after she saw all the concerned fans on twitter asking her what was wrong and realized what she'd be leaving behind. She also confirmed (in response to people asking about it) that her mother and grandmother were fine. Given the timing people figured, in retrospect, that it might have been related to her having advance knowledge of Coco's upcoming graduation but it seems like she may have denied that during today's saga frontier stream?
>>4892215
My initial bet was on some sort of scary encounter with a stalker or something like that, but who knows. I can't imagine she'd be streaming so much if it were something REALLY traumatic, though

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>>4892147
Noa from 2535 (instead of nijisanji-2434), actually, and thats only after autistic Roa fans went barging on this voice actor’s twitter and shit.
Also how could she continue to leak the inside info if she was dismissed by the company? There was another insider.

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>>4892130
>getting shut down
it doesn't matter what happens, everything will be erased there

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>>4891638
She also doxxed everyone she collabed with for the attention of 5ch anons

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>>4892299
>I'm not going to jump the gun because
>Everyone who has been following Coco knows all of this already
Just add "i'm Cover's fanboy and i will defend them even if they try to rape Coco like with Mel"

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>>4893227
Yeah you are right, but that wasn't the point.

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>>4892371
Explain this fucker, what is the incompetence here?
https://youtu.be/BWzj6Qq2-PA

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>>4893326
Go watch a Roa stream Nijinigger.....oh wait

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>>4893112
She was doing a lot more games that you would think she would play as Coco on her alt.

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>>4893430
Incompetence in not understanding that too much restrictions kills creative content. You do know that everyone else in the company is under the same restrictions, right?

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>>4893112
Based

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>>4893430
Restricting content isn't malice idiot. It's not understanding your fanbase and thinking being more family friendly will appeal to sponsors. It's literally incompetence.

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>>4893218
Well shit, that sounds like a likely scenario with how things are going.

I guess she's not ready yet to graduate but that resignation letter is ready to get handed down the minute things get too spicy. I wouldn't blame her.

On the other hand, the incident probably was just a spur of the moment due to overwhelming emotions. One can only assume after a few months....

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>>4893543
It made her quit not because they want her to quit because these restrictions doesn't work for her the most. We know her content was never about streaming games. The other girls can survive under the new rules just fine. Well not all of them, since we know several had been depressed or literally broke down on member streams peko

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>>4892574
>>4892574
What's the point of quoting me on this video? What are you trying to point out here? The video just strengthen what I think.

>Chinese investor
>source from my ass
>ogey rrat
Topkek.
You really think the companies you wrote on your post has no foreign shareholders in it? Some of those are publicly listed companies anon.

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>>4893803
Haachama's content got hit harder than most.

Sure it was brought back but that doesn't mean she can still make a similar content.

Shame we have no power to discuss with Cover that their restrictions are literally killing the content of their employees.

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>>4893870
>Some of those are publicly listed companies anon
plis andastand, he is an employee of Cover trying desperately to defend his company

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>>4893803
Yeah, but that's not malice. They're not purposely harassing her with restrictions anymore than they are Haachama. It sucks but a company can decide to go in a direction that doesn't fit some of its employees, that's not malice, just a business decision that may or may not be good.

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>>4893870
>the chinks are there, I can't provide proof they're there but everyone knows they're there
kek

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>>4894015
Read what you are responding to. I never said malice. I said incompetence with a mixture of killing creative control. The moment you are micro managed... that's when things becomes a bummer.

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>>4894125
not anon your talking with but here you go

>https://www.crunchbase.com/search/principal.investors

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>>4894125
>I can't provide proof
kek. You want to prove me wrong? Prove me wrong anon. Give me your ETH address too. If you can prove that none of those companies have chinese shareholders in it, I'll give you $200.

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>>4893977
We don't have to. You see the creators themselves are moving away. If 110 or Rin starts becoming active maybe then they will act. But those girls are game focused. Not like Coco

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>>4894308
The burden of proof isn't on him jackass. It's on you.

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>>4894308
>>4894285
I don't see any chinks in any of the private venture companies listed like Chiba Dojo or DIMENSION. The only venture companies related to publicly listed corporations there are Mizuho and SMBC.
So you're telling me the second and third largest banking institutions in Japan have a lot of Chinese investors who also give enough of a fuck about their investments in a small tech/entertainment company via their subsidiary firms that they'll order an employee to be bullied out.
Okay man, you can believe that if you want.

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>>4894378
Yeah why is it on me? I never really understand why it's on the claimer to prove that their statement is correct, and not equally to the cross investigator if they want to slam the claimer for being wrong?

That said, it really doesn't matter to me if some of you think there's no Chinese shareholders in Japanese companies. You can believe what you want to believe. Prove me wrong if you can, because you won't be able to. You can't speak Japanese? Pay someone who can and find the information for you. Find the Japanese equivalent of SEC EDGAR and get the list of the shareholders. I'll cover the fee + the $200 on ETH if I'm wrong.

If I'm correct, you'll pay that Japanese reader yourself, kek.

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>>4894546
Simple logic kills the rrat. Thank you anon.

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>>4894546
Most of my posts on this thread is about sponsorship money. Like this >>4884153 and >>4880813

I didn't really reply to the "Chinese investors" back and forth until your quote at >>4892574

Nor do I ever say this anon
>have a lot of Chinese investors who also give enough of a fuck about their investments in a small tech/entertainment company via their subsidiary firms that they'll order an employee to be bullied out

Either you have back-and-forth with someone that isn't me, or your putting words in my mouth. Since the start of this thread I've mostly talked about Cover being stuck between a rock and a hard place with Chinese sponsorship preemptively pulling funding from companies like Cover that they view as recognizing Taiwan as a sovereign state.

I think this post >>4892574 shows either you're being deliberately ignorant with your claim that there isn't any China investments on those companies or shows how little you know about Japan-China business relation in general.

I don't care that much if you actually think there are no Chinese investments in JP companies and vice versa. The point of my posts in the first place before your quote is more about

how Narukami's rrat describes how Cover acts towards Coco inside the company and how they deal with sponsorship situations.

It's not really about "chinese investors" bullying Coco. It's apparent from Narukami's video that a faction of management is the one doing the exclusionary practices towards Coco, even pre-Taiwan Asacoco incident (his example was about Coco not being in Biribiri).

I feel like you're either being very dense on purpose or just hasn't yet at the stage of your life where you know not everything is black and white with the situation, one of the two.

Again, none of what I wrote on this board from yesterday and on this thread is putting emphasis and focus on "Chinese investors bullying Coco".

Bullying is a very Western culture word to begin with. I would use ostracism, neglect, or exclusionary practices to define what Cover is doing (according to Narukami's rrat)

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>>4892574
Addition:
I feel like the argument that Cover has no Chinese investors is a arguing in a bad faith to begin with because we all know they operate on China pre-Taiwan incident.

There's no way just generally speaking that they don't have any troubles with potential Chinese Corp sponsors because of that incident even if you don't think there's any Chinese shareholders.

We all also know they operate in China before. That in itself automatically means they have some sort of Chinese reps or funds or both in their company structure. We don't know if those party pull out with HoloCN dismissal and we don't know what internal agenda factions within the company have.

Feels very odd to me to make an argument of "there is no chinese "shareholders" (as in influence) just in general for MNCs originating from Japan.

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At this point, the insider and author of this rrat could be Coco herself, and if she perceved that she was bullied into resign, then fuck you! it was her that brought me to hololive and my Oshi, the company can go to hell for all i care

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>>4892798
Well people also brought up this one and it makes perfect sense if you consider Coco applied as staff member, either way she want's to fix stuff in hololive from behind the scenes or start her own thing either way she would have to quit being a chuuba herself, zhangs probably contributed to it happening faster but it would probably happened either way because Coco was never in it for herself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ond9-jIiT-E

and I feel like the Hololive Chinese faction rrat goes way too far after Holo CN was just disbanded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4894592
>>4894546
samefag

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>>4885824
>>4886106
>>4889440
The subs came from here.
>>4837639

[Anonymous No.]

>rrat
trust me dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>4893218
Didn't she say that she wanted to quit streaming because something terrible happened to her? Doesn't really sound like it was about Coco they were never really that close for her to take it this personal.

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>>4895830
>Doesn't really sound like it was about Coco they were never really that close
>The faggot didn't watch Koro san stream today, when she stopped several times to cry for Coco

[Anonymous No.]

>>4895682
Try again jackass

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>>4895894
>jackass
go back redditor, you are not welcome

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>>4895696
>T/L by: NARUKAMI LOVE
Yeah, I'm not believing any of this. Fuck Narukami and the people that watch his shitty tabloid ass content.

Until I get solid proof that Cover was malicious I'm going with Coco leaving over creative differences. Unfortunate but not malicious although Cover seriously should ease up on their restrictions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4895876
I mean doggo have a good heart and all that but I think it was something a bit more personal, she said "quit streaming" not just Hololive.

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>>4895947
I don't like Narukami either, but there are proofs that, in hindsight from Narukami's rrat, show us that Cover did neglect her.
>not being invited to new year countdown event on the main channel
>her member only post that's read くそやみそしきが (just post that on twitter if you can't speak japanese)
>can't collab with holoEN (Coco said this over and over)
>From Coco herself from time to time mentioning that she has contentious relationship with management sides (this was I think pre-Taiwan incident)

Coco isn't my oshi so people feel free to add more.

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>>4896186
I don't think anybody is debating that Cover put harsher restrictions on her, nobody is debating that and it's probably why she left, creative differences.
The part of Narukami's rrat that people are questioning is when he said that she was forced out by management so they can restart their business in China.

>くそやみそしきが
This was posted November of last year during the heart of the bug harassment and could easily reflect her frustration at the situation at the time. It is of my opinion (going to leave it at that since I have no proof) that this isn't how she feels now. I feel this way because of what other Hololive members have said and the fact that just last week Coco said that Hololive was a place that she treasured. Her leaving over creative differences doesn't necessarily mean she has any contempt for the company, it just means that she has a different vision in mind for her content. Nothing wrong with that.

I really think it was simply creative differences that forced her to hand in her resignation. Multiple Hololive members like Mio and Miko wouldn't have tried to hard to get her to stay if Cover was truly mistreating her as a black company.

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>>4895830
Yeah, people (myself included) believed that it might have been related to Coco because of the timing, but as I understand it she said on her stream today that it was unrelated and that she still can't say anything about it until the situation develops further. Don't quote me on that last part though my nihongo isn't good enough to know for sure so it's secondhand info from here