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where are we meant to go from here?
cover/hololive has made it clear that money comes first, and they will strong-arm you til you quit if you don't like it. You don't need to read or believe any of the rrats to understand Coco leaving is not on good terms.
How are we supposed to react to this injustice? Most of the normalfag clipwatchers don't understand the implications of Coco's graduation so they just think it's like a good band breaking up or something. This means a wide-spread "CHINA HATE" or "COVER HATE" won't be possible. Even if it was, it would be putting the livelihoods of many vtubers we care about at risk.
Are we just going to cry for a few days and then act like cover wouldn't blacklist our oshi over the smallest things?

>> No.4913212

>>4913147
If you can't even trust your oshi, go and stay gone.

>> No.4913252

>>4913212
what? trust your oshi to know exactly what not to do and constantly walk on eggshells to appease corporate china?

>> No.4913423

It's over bro. Time for a new hobby or stay a simp.

>> No.4913473

>>4913147
Just enjoy.

>> No.4913488

>>4913147
Just go to indie/other company vtubers. Who are your holo oshis and why do you like them? Maybe somebody could recommend you an alternative.

>> No.4913554

>>4913423
>>4913473
>>4913488
The perfect trifecta of responses. Take your pick OP.

>> No.4913578

>>4913212
Point and laugh at this retard.

>> No.4913601

>>4913554
None of these are solutions to the cover problem, just ways of coping

>> No.4913614
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4913614

>>4913147
keep spamming more threads

>> No.4913617

>>4913147
yes

>> No.4913668

>>4913601
Oh, and what kind of power do we have to execute a solution? Educate us.

>> No.4913673
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4913673

>>4913147
Look at this dramafag, he's just made yet another new thread

>> No.4913681

>>4913668
that's literally the question of the OP you fag. maybe read.

>> No.4913733

>>4913681
You'll pick a way to cope eventually.

>> No.4913743

>>4913212
Okay. See ya

>> No.4913752

>>4913601
Exactly. There is literally nothing you can do but cope. That's the essence of being an adult.

>> No.4913777

>>4913578
>He still want to support a supposed "corpo drone"
Just walk away bro.

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4913787

you may not have realized it coming into this rabbit hole, but this is what it means to be a corporate vtuber. they’re entertainers under a company, a corporation. it just hasn’t had any downsides until now

>> No.4913829

>>4913787
>it just hasn’t had any downsides until now
You must have been hiding your head under a pillow to not notice the kind of bullshit this company has been doing to its talents until recently.

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4913834

>>4913147
>looks at posts x IPs
>already samefagging

>> No.4913870

>>4913834
Are you surprised? The bait is getting really fucking lazy at this point

>> No.4913951

>>4913870
so asking legit questions is considered bait.

>> No.4914037

>>4913829
mate, I’m the last one you need to remind about cover’s bullshit. that’s the point I’m making, surface level Holo is all fun and cute memes but there’s so much to them all being corpos beyond teetee collabs

>> No.4914078

>>4913951
Yeah man, you're totally just asking legit questions. That's definitely it lol

>> No.4914354

>>4913147
>where are we meant to go from here?
wait for en2 and jp6

>> No.4914498

Just enjoy the moment. Coco said she left on good terms. Full stop. I am aware my Oshi too will soon leave in the future. Try fixing your life first faggot, instead of making this stupid threads

>> No.4914860

>>4914498
>coco said in a pretaped statement approved by cover that she left on good terms
it's like you guys are aware of how bluepilled you are

>> No.4915001

>>4914498
>>4914860
I mean even in her streams/members streams where she heavily suggests she was very frustrated, she's sticking to a story where she was in negotiating talks, they wanted her to stay, and she made the decision to leave. I firmly believe that is is incompentence, and worst case scenario is Cover was malicious but thought they could have their cake and eat it too. Keep her in a box that's getting smaller and smaller and not let her out.

>> No.4915012

>>4914498
hideo kojima also left konami on good terms

>> No.4915109

>>4915001
I could fully believe that she left because she felt like she was hamstrung by management. I don't buy the rrat that she was fired to get Chinese money.

>> No.4915226

>>4913147
Just enjoy. Nothing can be done in 20-ish days to reverse this decision. We can just pay respects and say goodbye to Coco with a smile. If rrats are true, we will see Cover fuck up sooner rather than later. I hope everyone will do the right thing when that happens

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4915261

It's like history repeat itself. Anon become the one he (supposedly) hate.

>> No.4915311

>>4913147
It is because she has a BF and her fans will harass her endlessly when it comes out so better pull the plug now.
Also
>profit oriented company focusses on profit
no shit.

>> No.4915654

>>4914860
Better be content not knowing what's going behind the scene. Just ain't worth the time being in this kind of threads, anon

>> No.4915893

>>4915109
Not only is it an incredibly stupid decision that won't even work and will end up alienating them with EVERYONE including China, but all the evidence that isn't coming from Mr. Untrustworthy Japanese Keemstar is definitely pointing to her deciding she's put up with enough and getting out.

>> No.4915993

>>4915311
>profit oriented company focuses on short term profit at the expense of sustainability

>> No.4916103

>>4913787
It still does not have any downsides. Coco is Vshojo-tier. I am glad she is gone.

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>> No.4916756

>>4913147
support your local vtuber coop

>> No.4916830

>>4915893
It's not impossible though because Cover have made A LOT of dumb choices.
But I think it was them being too anal about everything after it happened so she just decided it's time to go

>> No.4917082

>>4913147
>where are we meant to go from here?
I'm just gonna sit back, continue watching and laughing at your retarded American outrage over nothing.

There is no problem. Nothing is wrong, everything is right. This is just another case of American hysteria over China, and a hypocritical one at that given that you people are the foremost censors of everything, be it dissenting political opinions or whatever else. I'm so sick and tired of you people. Sit down, shut up, let us have some fun. Nobody outside the US gives a single fuck about Taiwan, China or East Asian political theater.

>> No.4917193

>>4917082
not American, so I don't even know why you'll bring America here

>> No.4917206

>>4917082
>nobody cares about china
>he says as someone gets fired for being disliked by china
Your entire post reeks of shill.

>> No.4917365

>>4915893
I mean that's a common thing for japanese companies.
If you're a very valuable employee they can't just fire you so, so they isolate you and keep you in some random corner till you finally quit on your own.

Very notable person this was done to was Gunpei Yokoi, creator of the gameboy, even thought it was Nintendo's fault they released the virtual boy before it was ready they still scapegoated the shit out of him and just kept him doing menial tasks till he quit.

>> No.4917489

>>4913147
>cover/hololive has made it clear that money comes first
Did that JUST occur to you? Do Hololive fans really...?

>> No.4917582

>>4913147
>Coco leaving is not on good terms.
By contradiction, this rrat is wrong.

Coco's departure is the equivalent of an "Honorable Discharge", where her name can continue to be spoken long after retirement.

By comparison, consider Aloe and HoloCN. It's as if neither existed within Hololive.

>cover/hololive has made it clear that money comes first

This is nonsense considering that Coco is the 2nd highest earner. However, I'll consider believing this assertion if there's a big push to revive HoloCN.

>> No.4917586

>>4917193
Because only America has a vested interest in riling up people against China via shilling and psyops, since America's grip is waning. And I'm not interested in the slightest in siding against China or supporting America. It literally makes no sense to do so. Zhang didn't do shit to me.

>>4917206
Nobody knows why she left. This event is just an excuse for anti-chinese shilling and related US glowie bullshit.

>> No.4917648

>>4917365
Don't forget about Ono and Capcom

>> No.4917725

>>4913673
post peko52 please

>> No.4917759

>>4913147
>money comes first
>harassing their biggest money maker till she leaves
No anon cover is retarded jap businessman decisions first like konami except cover also got the chinks diddling their bum

>> No.4917861

>>4917586
Yeah pretty sure you just have a hate-boner towards America and venting it out here.

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4918012

>>4917586
dont care about america I just hate china and all my homies do, too

fuck chinks

>> No.4918035

>>4917586
>you have to be american to hate china
you're stretching quite a bit there

>> No.4918102

I am hopping over to Nijisanji where they actually care about their talent and are aware that their male livers exist.

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4918111

>>4917082
>Nobody outside the US gives a single fuck about Taiwan, China or East Asian political theater.

wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrilateral_Security_Dialogue

>> No.4918334

>>4913147
You can start by killing yourself you dumb chink/SEAnigger

>> No.4918348

>>4918102
But Nijis also bow to China

>> No.4918383

>>4917759
It's kicking the small money to get big money. Some big sponsor probably wanted it to be full iduru

>> No.4918386

>>4918111
>United States, Japan, Australia and India
Exactly. It means nothing to Europe.

>> No.4918473

>>4913147
>heeeer dddeerr. Companies that try to make a profit for themselves bad

Get a reality check loser. All streamers and thier companies ultimately aim to make money. If you don't like it then vtubers is not for you.

>> No.4918503

>Many dreams I had will remain unfulfilled
>Not a rrat or a mis-translation, she said it herself, its even on the official subs
>Holo doing its best business ever
>Coco is is the PV for fucksakes
>Not allowed on the new years stream
>Hasn't been on Hologra in 8 months
>Wasn't even there on Kanata's 3D birthday when every single holo "couple" has been together for their respective birthdays
There is simply no way she wanted to leave, she got sick off the bullshit and walked away.

>> No.4918522

>>4918473
>every vtuber company should be like Up8
You mutts are worse than the Jews you always pretend to hate

>> No.4918594

>>4918503
no you don't get it it's all rrat she got tired of talking in front of a camera in two years and had to throw millions of dollars away

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4918674

>>4917725

>> No.4918683

>>4918386
europe is already cucked and owned by china,
they are practically chinese states

>> No.4918698

>>4918594
Why would she bring her old channel back each time she had a hiatus just to stream in front of a camera?

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>>4918674
thanks friend

>> No.4918726

>>4918503
Leaving by her own decision and wanting to leave are very different things. She definitely got sick of this bullshit

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4919422

>>4918386
The EU is already in talks to determine its level of involvement and if that falls through there's nothing stopping member states from individually deciding to participate.

Face it, the world is done with China's belligerence and is pivoting towards containment, just like with the Soviet Union. The only countries left in China's corner are corrupt dirtholes that need Chinese money to build basic infrastructure, which is to say they are military non-factors.

>>4918683
>pic related

>> No.4920285

>>4918726
Let's be honest. Coco was forced out after merciless power harassment. Management needed a patzy to cover up their lack of concern for the one China policy. Haachama was untouchable and Coco was American. They there both under the bus hoping they'd quit of their own volition. Neither did. They continued primarily focusing on Coco but targeted Haachama when she went off the rails, only to roll it back when she called their bluff because you don't fuck with a politician's daughter.

Coco wasn't a politician's daughter, so her projects continued to be stonewalled until she finally ushered in THE FINAL YAB by quitting and leaking the details to narukami.

Coco ultimately had no choice but to leave as cover was hell bent on blocking her path forward just to appease the chinks they'd brought on as staff and investors during their effort to make inroads into the Chinese market. These are the same chinks behind hololive en being locked in their cuckshed where they're largely forces to walk on egg shells, interact with one another in an incredibly forced and cautious way, and live in perpetual fear of management's wrath.

tldr Cover's attempts at consorting with China inevitably infected their company with ideological subversives who are systematically sabotaging Hololive from within. The lesson to learn from this is that the Chinese market isn't worth it so long as Communists aren't ousted. It never truly was. Especially not during the covid scare last year where fears of mask shortages were a result of China hoarding already paid for supplies to deal with a contagion they themselves were responsible for. Cover is just another grain of sand on the pile of things ruined by communism. Hopefully the talent can find new homes before the entire company collapses or gets turned into a CCP mouthpiece.

>> No.4921652

Do what you want, chang

>> No.4928825

>>4913951

>hey how many dicks have you sucked. 200 or 400?

do you retard not understand what a loaded question is.

>> No.4928884

>>4913147
I'm looking forward to the holoEN NTR arc

>> No.4928973

>>4913212
Your oshi legally cannot talk against Cover. How delusional are you?

>> No.4929039

>>4916103
look at this fucking newfag,

never seen cover pre 2019?
they were literal whos and have done way worse before coco debuted, especially the earlier gens like matsuri and choco.
i bet you only watch clips faggot

>> No.4929097

>>4917586
nice try nigger,
keep pretending the loans china give you are not gonna be paid bad with your blood

>> No.4929123

>>4913147
bye

>> No.4929148
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4929148

>>4913212
>Trust the corporate line the talent is contractually mandated to recite

>> No.4929164

>>4919422
t. europoor

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4929525

>>4928973
>>4929148
Then stop supporting them? I don't know why you refuse to drop those "corporate drone" and find a indie to groom. Something something Cover a black compay, something something Niji is better.

>> No.4935827

>>4918348
VirtualReal is owned by Bilibili, Niji supports them with technical aspects. If any yab happens, they can walk out anytime

>> No.4936003

>>4913147
>where are we meant to go from here?
take the coomer pill and only jack off to vtubers

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